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Obama Fundraiser Is Planned For August 24

Publication: The East Hampton Press
By Shaye Weaver   Jul 31, 2012 1:06 PM
Jul 31, 2012 2:59 PM

A star-studded fundraiser for President Barack Obama’s 2012 reelection campaign is planned for August 24 on the East End, falling almost seven weeks after a controversial Mitt Romney fundraiser at David Koch’s home in Southampton Village.

While the president himself is not scheduled to show, according to Southampton Town Democratic Committee Chairman Gordon Herr, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. will be there.

The event, called “East End for Obama,” will be held at the home of Ellen Chesler and Matthew Mallow on Ocean Road in Bridgehampton, and will be hosted by actor Nathan Lane. James Taylor will also play a selection of songs for attendees.

While not as pricey as the $50,000-per-guest Romney event, which angered many and spurred a protest outside of the event, tickets to the Obama fundraiser are $500 for those under 30, $1,000 for a general ticket, and $2,500 for a preferred ticket, which includes a photo reception with Mr. Biden. For those who would like to be named “co-host,” contributing $10,000 will buy a photo opportunity and a name listing on the invitation.

Other “honored” guests include U.S. Senators Kirsten Gillibrand and Frank Lautenberg, and U.S. Representative Tim Bishop.

Mr. Herr expressed his excitement about the event. “The fact that this event is being held on the East End confirms the fact that the East End plays an important role politically and economically in Suffolk County, Long Island and New York State,” he said in an email on Tuesday. “Furthermore, the Obama administration recognizes how vitally important it is that Congressman Tim Bishop is reelected in November.”

While Mr. Biden’s visit to Bridgehampton is for business, it is most likely that he will enjoy a little down time on the East End as well. The Bidens are known to vacation in Southampton and usually stay at philanthropist and technology entrepreneur David Bohnett’s estate on First Neck Lane in the village.

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By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Jul 31, 12 1:24 PM
Looking forward to our president being reelected. Romney really made a fool out of himself in England and Israel, and I think things will start to get easier. If the radical right congress would cooperate and work with the President, then we could get the economy going again.
By Steven (113), Westhampton on Jul 31, 12 1:26 PM
Really, so in your opinion the only thing preventing an economic recovery is lack of cooperation from congresS?
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jul 31, 12 4:20 PM
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it may not be the only reason, but an obstructionist congress certainly doesnt help
By tm (156), mtk on Jul 31, 12 4:30 PM
Obstrucitonist? Oh, you mean the OPPOSITION party voted into to counter Obama's policies?

What happened during Obama's first two years in which the Democrats controlled the White House and both houses of congress? I guess it was the Democrats obstructing then, huh?
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jul 31, 12 4:41 PM
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I'm just waiting for the next derivatives crash.

Fun fact of the day: derivatives trading was legislated to be exempt from gaming laws, as there is no physical difference between say racetrack betting, and how many hedge funds make their money.
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Jul 31, 12 5:11 PM
No,he meant OBSTRUCTIONIST republicans.
The ones that haven't proposed a jobs bill,and have fillibustered the ones that have been proposed.
Where are the jobs the republicans ran on?

Yep,Cappie,I'm going to post it again-

Once again,here's what they voted for since 2010-

Here's what the republicans have introduced-
46 bills on abortion
113 bills on religon
73 bills on family relationships
36 bills on marriage
72 bills on firearms
604 ...more ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Jul 31, 12 7:13 PM
Really Phil? Headline: Reid blocks vote on jobs bill while Obama blasts House for not voting on it. You can't make this stuff up. 10,000 bills are introduced in Congress in any given year with 99% dying with no vote – all carrying the flavor of the particular party. Here's what republicans have done since they took the house, 30 jobs bills only to be met with obstruction from democrats who can't even get their story straight when they play the blame game.
Jul 31, 12 8:57 PM appended by Captn America
It's a little difficult for republicans to support a democrat proposed jobs bill that democrats won't even support...
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Jul 31, 12 8:57 PM
Are you getting your info from that mailer that factcheck debunked?
It sure sounds like it-

"In a mailer to constituents, a Republican congressman claims 27 “bipartisan bills” have passed the House but “hit a brick wall” in the Democratic-controlled Senate. But most of the bills are not very “bipartisan.” A majority of House Democrats voted against all but five of the 27 proposals, sometimes overwhelmingly. One of these “bipartisan bills” ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Jul 31, 12 9:39 PM
No, completely different issue. Factcheck debunked only the "bipartisan claims" of the mailer, not the existense of the 30 bills. Your source also notes: "Inflated claims of bipartisanship are not uncommon in Washington. In September, President Barack Obama overstated past bipartisan support for each proposal in his jobs stimulus bill." Clearly if they haven't been passed, they're probably not bipartisan, eh? You don't really need factcheck for that.

Look harder for the lack of democratic ...more
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 9:17 AM
If the republican plans were worth the papaer they were written on,the democrats would have considered them.
But most of them were just giveaways to corporations and the rich.
If you read the factcheck article,you'd see that Reid did support one that passed both houses of congress,and showed favor for three mor.
Where's the republican reciprocation on democratic bills?
All we get from the republicans is obstructionismIt was McConnell who set the tone for the Obama presidency right ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 5:09 PM
Of course the democrats would have considered a republican plan... hahahahahaha. "giveaways to corporations and the rich" is another way of saying providing incentives to hire and create jobs. Democrats have been nothing more than the next stimulus, which failed terribly. Government does not create jobs - private industry does. We have nothing to show for Stimulus 1 other than more debt.
Aug 1, 12 8:10 PM appended by Captn America
Harry Reid has been in Congress for 26 years and has NEVER released a tax return, what is HE hiding?????
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 8:10 PM
Yes,they would.
They passed the republican healthcare plan-the one that the Heritage Foundation created-before the republicans did a 190 on it.
The democrats embraced the Dream Act-before the republicans distanced themselves from it.
The democrats agreed to the Debt ceiling solution,even though they knew the republicans were only playing partisan games that would (and did) end up in our countries first ever credit rating reduction
We've been giving tax breaks to corporations and ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 8:22 PM
Geez Phil, we're talking jobs bill and you're off on health care, dream act, and the debt ceiling. Where are the jobs promised in the Stimulus? Obama promised the stimulus would not only have a large impact but also an immediate impact. Those jobs never materialized, and it was not for lack of workers—or shovels. Obama said in February 2009 that the stimulus would lift "2 million Americans from poverty". But since Obama took office, 6.3 million Americans have fallen into poverty.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 9:58 PM
The stimulus wasn't big enough-because the republicans opposed a big stimulus,unlike previous economic crises when they were willing to spend like drunken sailors..The republicans are the party of no
No jobs bill
no economic recovery
no tax cuts for the middle class
They still haven't proposed a jobs bill.
where are the jobs?
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 10:10 PM
1 trillion wasn't big enough? For real...? Well, I guess to quote Obama, "Shovel ready was not as shovel ready as we expected....(hahaha)

30 jobs bills proposed by republicans with no democratic support. Failure of leadership within the democrat for party for support of Obama's own jobs bills... Where are the jobs Mr. President??
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 10:28 PM
No, one trillion was not enough-not when Bush had put us trllions more in the hole.
The republican have yet to offer a jobs bill
where are the jobs?
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 5:11 PM
So Bush spending trillions, not good, but Obama spending even more trillions - even more than Bush, is ok? I don't get that logic.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 6:12 PM
The logic is that Bush spent and cut taxes,effectively putting the debt on a credit card for future generations to pay off.
Once the economy started crashing,Obama tried to get it under control by spending-on unfrastructure,etc.He even used 1/3 of the stimulus as tax cuts so people could have a little more money in their pockets to help reive the economy somewhat.It wasn't enough,but it did create jobs.
Are you telling me that you were against the tax cuts in the stimulus package now
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 7:06 PM
What I’m telling you is if Obama’s priority was on jobs and improving the economy, then he shouldn’t have been wildly spending on other, lower priorities. Instead he and the democrats focused on everything but jobs and the economy and we’re now at a point where we no longer have the option because of the exorbitant spending. With 16 trillion dollars of debt, over 5 trillion in 3 years of which Obama owns since Bush increased it by 4.9 trillion in 8 years, that option has ...more
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 8:21 PM
He's been pushing the jobs bill-the republicans keep filibustering it.
And better check your numbers-especially if they're coming from fox (news?) because fox isn't known for getting things right.
We're in this hole because of bush-his policies put us here,whether you want to hear i or not.
He put everything on a credit card when he gave tax cuts during a time of war (a war that we were told would pay for itself)
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:45 PM
By the way,the House,led by the republican majority,has introduced 60 bills to re-name Post Offices.
Where are the jobs?
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:50 PM
Speaking of not getting it right, and needing to use fuzzy numbers (again), I see the Obama campaign unveiled a new website today to convince voters that Romney’s tax plan favors the rich. The website includes a tax calculator that allows voters to compare their tax savings under Obama’s and Romney’s competing plans. Millionaires and billionaires who go to the website will find that they, too, will receive “tax savings” under Obama’s plan. Indeed, it appears ...more
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 10:04 PM
The first $250,000 is tax exempt for everybody;after that tax is due on everything.What's fuzzy about that?
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 3, 12 5:39 PM
And speaking of fuzzy numbers,just how old is Romney if the law only allows a person to put $6,000/year in an IRA and he's got millions-maybe between $20 mil and $100 million in an IRA?
He'd have to be thousands of years old to have that much at $6,000 per year.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 3, 12 6:32 PM
How is it that Harry Reid is worth $10 million and he earns "only" $190,000 per year?

Phil, don't quit your day job, financial matters aren't your forte.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 4:27 PM
What's Romney hiding?
Why won't he release his tax returns?
He's part of the 1% that is stealing from the rest of us.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 5:00 PM
How did Romney get a hundred million ollars into his IRA?
What makes him special that he can do that and everyone else has limits on it?
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 5:03 PM
What's Reid hiding? Why won't he release his tax returns? There are no restrictions on the amount of money that the contributed capital can earn and can continue to earn, on a tax-deferred basis, even after the contributions have stopped.

Now your turn, how did Harry Reid amass his 1% status as an elected "leader." He's voting to make millions for himself, fleecing the country and tax payers in the process for 26 years.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 6:57 PM
Harry Reid isn't running for president and won't be in charge of setting tax policy.How Mit Romney views taxes has a direct bearing on th rest of the country.
He should release his tax returns and be transparent.If he dd nothing wrong,he h nothing to fear.
But he's still hiding them. Must be something there.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 7:12 PM
Harry Reid is a servant of the people. He has more power and opportunity at his disposal to become rich off his decisions and votes than the POTUS. The Legislative Branch sets tax policy - Congress. What is Harry Reid hiding?
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 7:55 PM
He isn't hiding much;he was a lawyer before he was a politician.And,as demonstrated,very little gets past the republicans in congress without giving them a slice of the pie.Remember Jack Abramoff?
If you're calling Reid corrupt,do you have anything to substantiate it.

And I didn't say that Romney was corrupt or broke the law-all I said was that he is hiding something-which could mean that he used legal-if immoral- loopholes to enrich himself at the cost of peoples jobs.The kind of thing ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 8, 12 6:18 PM
And I didn't say that Reid was corrupt or broke the law-all I said was that he is hiding something-which could mean that he used legal-if immoral- loopholes to enrich himself at the cost of peoples trust.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 8, 12 9:43 PM
But Reid isn't running for president,and has to answer to his constituents in Nevada,not the entire U.S. for questionable activities.The only people screaming about him are those who are willing to protect Romney and justify his opaqueness-I have the feeling that his tax records will show that he maintained a connection with Bane and profited from its activities after he supposedly left.That connection could illustrate his indifference to workers at companies Bane drove into bankruptcy and then ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 4:52 PM
A United States Senator doesn't answer to the US population, just the constituents of his state? Um, last I heard they were held to a higher standard, regardless. For 26 years he has shirked that responsibility - apparently.

I have a feeling that Obama's school records will show he was a crappy student. And the only way a crappy student gets into a really good school, is because he's a foreign exhange student. He IS president and should be (but isn't) answering to his constituents.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 6:25 PM
Yeah,he became president of the Harvard Law Review because he was a crappy student.
Arew you going to start that ignorant birther stuff too?
I guess that's all you got.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 6:33 PM
He's still hiding them. Must be something there.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 7:21 PM
You said it, Steven. Romeny has proved himself incapable of diplomacy. When you are the president you cannot just throw red meat to your base, you must be able to communicate to everyone. Romney is a teabag puppet and he and his buddy Randy the Outsourcer will finally be gone after this election.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Jul 31, 12 2:21 PM
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Diplomacy to leftists like you means turning your back on our allies and apoligizing to the people who'd love to watch America burn.

Obama and Bishop will lose, and you'll have to be medicated for the next four years.

By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jul 31, 12 4:19 PM
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Show us where Obama apologised to any other country for Bush-even if he should have. He never did,and you know it.
You should be on meds yourself.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Jul 31, 12 7:33 PM
He most certainly did. Most ineffective President in US history. He couldn't get anything done even when he had the House and the Senate. He will lose a close vote, but he will lose. Can't wait.
By dnice (1314), Hampton Bays on Jul 31, 12 8:28 PM
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Show us.
The rest of your post is the usual garbage,but show the quote of Obama apologising.
Remember;it has to be him saying "I'm sorry"
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Jul 31, 12 9:42 PM
Ahh yes... what constitutes an apology, the old technicality of "I'm sorry." IMHO, Obama went on a world wind criticism tour of past U.S. actions, but not a full-throated apology as defined by a dictionary. It's the same sentiment that Michelle expressed when she said "For the First Time in My Adult Lifetime, I’m Really Proud of My Country." "I'm sorry"... maybe not.... outward disdain for their country, the United States... you betcha...
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 9:31 AM
Where's that direct quote?
It looks like cappie and the rest of the usual suspects are the ones ramping up the rhetoric.
Show us the quote and stop playing that fox news game that easily fools the rest of the groin thinkers.Unless you've been fooled by it yourself.....
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 4:49 PM
Still gnoring your disabled charge, eh phil? Aren't you supposed to be working at 4:49PM?
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Aug 1, 12 4:51 PM
No,I've been off work since 2:30.This week has been pretty good,I got home early every day.
School hours are from 8am until 3:00 pm,and we can leave when the last child is gone.
Why don't you get a hobby,you sick demented paranoid?
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 4:55 PM
Cappie ramping up the rhetoric??? I agreed with you for pete sake. I can't be held responsible for the things Obama and Michelle say. IMO it is they who have ramped the rhetoric and the reason why we are even having this discussion.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 8:21 PM
I've shown you to provide talking points and misinformation all along.
This whole site knows you don't tell the truth.You're just a lackey for the right.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 8:26 PM
The only reasonable response to that is "The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries."

You can blame that one on me too... or Bush.... or.... President Diplomacy????
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 9:08 PM
I'm waiting for one of you to post the quote of Obama apologising;all I see is some fastand fancy dancing to avoid it.
I guess that's another right wing talking point shot down.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 9:58 PM
Phil, I agreed with you... what part of that don't you understand....
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 10:05 PM
Because of the underlying cynicism in your posts.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 10:17 PM
I responded to your post with my opinion and supported quotes.

What came first, the chicken or the egg?
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 10:31 PM
You pos partisan talking points and try to pass them off as fact.
You can't be trusted to tell the truth.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 5:13 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to post where Obama apologised.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 5:15 PM
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By HBPatriot (19), Hampton Bays on Aug 2, 12 5:32 PM
tell me that you actually read that.

Here's a few quot from it-

"Posted at 6:00 AM ET, 02/22/2011
Obama's 'Apology Tour'
By Glenn Kessler


"I think he had made a practice of trying to apologize for America. I personally am proud of America."
--Former defense secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Feb. 20, 2011

"I will not and I will never apologize for America. I don't apologize for America, because I believe in America."
--Former Massachusetts governor ...more
Aug 2, 12 5:45 PM appended by philathome
from the end of the article- "Note to GOP speechwriters and campaign ad makers: The apology tour never happened. Four Pinocchios
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 5:45 PM
Maybe we should ask to see the letter from the state department sent the Japanese saying that Obama wanted to apologize in person for the USA’s World War II actions when we dropped an atom bomb on Japan.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 6:07 PM
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Or maybe the apology to Karzai for burning Qurans.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 6:22 PM
I think you got that wrong-there was an apology from Fox news about getting the story wrong-

" DOOCY: We'd like to clarify a story we told you about yesterday during our program. The story was about a possible apology from President Obama to Japan for the U.S. dropping atomic bombs on that country during World War II. We want to be very clear. There was never a plan for President Obama to apologize to Japan. We should have been clear about that, and we're sorry for the confusion"

By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 6:48 PM
and about those Quran burnings-
Yes,the soldiers who burned the Qurans did nothing that we should have apologised for-after all,those Qurans wer he equivalent to them of the Bible.
Since you hold all Muslims in such contempt I expected you to be outraged about some US soldiers being held responsible for further enflaming the Arab world.After all,since the right feeds on hate,you have to keep feeding the flames to stoke fear.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 6:51 PM
Like clock work... so predictable.... hehehehe. So now you want to use Fox news as a source? I noticed they are called Fox news when you use them as a source but refer to them as faux news when you're degrading someone elses point. Interesting.

Well, you wanted an Obama apology quote so you got two. One just for fun, and one that he actually made.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 8:30 PM
A very accurate clock,by the way.
I just cted fox news because hey so blatantly misreprted the story that they had to isse an apology on-air.
By the way,did you catch the ribbon on the bottom of the fox news screen thi morning that said that "Unemployment was up 90%"
Another fox flub.
If you want to (I know you won't do it)just google the story about the supposed "pology" and you'll see hat it was never considred by the hite House.You once again presented a right wing bloviation ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:09 PM
No, just a very very slow clock. Probably built by a union guy. I guess Fox is Fair and Balanced after all. I think you missed the full ribbon...Jobless Ranks Rose in 90% of US Cities in June. More good news for America brought to you by no other than Barack Obama.

By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:30 PM
I caught that one after they fixed it-the wrong one rolled by at least twice because I saw it the first time early on the early show and flipped back to it a little later on and saw it again.I couldn't beleive that they keep doing that-no wonder no one takes them seriously.
Right up there with misidentifying politicians by the wrong party affiliation.
Classic.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:41 PM
Oh, well you saw it, that changes everything. I'm sure there is someone out there running around thinking unemployment was up 90 percent. We now know they are Fair and Balanced and human.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:53 PM
Ahhh - you "for the People" posters! You're very funny! That's a lot of money to pay to go meet our "Have I mis-spoken again?" VP and "Local Candidate". If, indeed, Tim Bishop, the VP and the President had ANY idea of how to "get the economy going again" - I dare say it would have been done. Perhaps even without adding a "tax", or a "penalty" or whatever you want to call it on the "middle class".... A "status" i worked hard to acheive but am losing every day thanks to our President. Thank goodness ...more
By Board Watcher (492), East Hampton on Jul 31, 12 2:35 PM
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are you going to pretend that democrats are the only ones with high priced fundraisers?

i dont like them either, but al least be honest.
By tm (156), mtk on Jul 31, 12 4:32 PM
It's the Democrats and their Occupy Wall Street allies(you know, rapists, violent anarchists, the "you owe me for breathing" crowd etc) that are up in arms over money in politics...well, at least when it's Republicans raising more money in a given year.

By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jul 31, 12 4:45 PM
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Obama can't run on his record. He accomplished NOTHING but running up the debt. It will be a campaign of hate and fear. I can see it GOP hates the poor, women, they are racists, elitists, blah blah blah.
By razza5350 (1516), East Hampton on Jul 31, 12 3:38 PM
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Will be? Thats what it is now. Shills like progressnow have been portraying conservatives as pure evil, suitable only for the ovens in "reeducation" camps.

Cambodia, Vietnam, The Soviet bloc, Cuba... tens of millions of humans exterminated or forced to live in misery, brought to you by leftists.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jul 31, 12 4:23 PM
The debt was already rung up.

We just finally got to see the receipt...
Jul 31, 12 5:13 PM appended by Mr. Z
Communism was like any other system with a leader who was drunk with power. It had nothing to do with politics, and everything to to with despotism.
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Jul 31, 12 5:13 PM
The debt has increased by over 40% in the last 4 years, the defecit for the year is at 1 trillion and Obama care will cost 2.7 trillion over the next 10 years.
By razza5350 (1516), East Hampton on Jul 31, 12 7:50 PM
The results of deregulation and corporate domination of the political process.
Mostly in the previous administration.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Jul 31, 12 7:57 PM
Phil, Phil, Phil... we've been down this deregulation road before. Regulation under Bush actually increased. Live it, learn it, know it. According to a 2008 study of President Bush’s first seven years in office by The Heritage Foundation regulatory burdens rose under Bush: Regulatory Budget and Staffing Levels: Regulatory Page Counts: The Number and Cost of Major Rules: Cost Estimates – all up. Now, if you compare Bush to Obama, you’ll also find a dramatic increase – ...more
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Jul 31, 12 8:25 PM
BUT, what type of regulation?

Sandy Weil actually admitted that TBTF was a "poor" structure.

When corporates pay 20K a year, how can you NOT expect there to be a "welfare class". Rationally looking at the cost of healthcare, it's almost like they strategize it that way, to perpetrate class warfare between the "middle class", and the "poor"...
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Jul 31, 12 8:56 PM
Business has to be regulated because it cannot be trusted.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Jul 31, 12 9:15 PM
No young grasshopper.

People cannot be trusted.

Laws were enacted after the "Great Depression" to save "capitalism" from itself. Those laws were repealed, and oddly enough, things got more expensive. Figure that, eh?

Leaving the bankers in charge, is like letting the fox guard the henhouse.
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Jul 31, 12 9:34 PM
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You just made all of those numbers up.
By PJC (5), Westhampton on Jul 31, 12 10:34 PM
Will those same protesters be in attendance? Thought not, since they are all liberal democrats looking out for their next handout!
By Walt (243), Southampton on Jul 31, 12 4:23 PM
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What's the point if Obama will not be there?
By EastEnd68 (813), Westhampton on Jul 31, 12 4:34 PM
The obstructionist congress is the only thing controling Obama from being worst then he is. But I must say Obama at his worst is better than Romney. Thank God we have a congress controling these officals.
By EastEnd68 (813), Westhampton on Jul 31, 12 4:37 PM
I can't stand Obama, but it does seem like the country does best when congress and the white house are split.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jul 31, 12 4:47 PM
Jeremiah Wright, Phil Ayers, Tony Rezko, Eric Holder. No visit ti Israel but a speech in Cairo in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood. Non existant job growth, trillions in NEW debt. You didn't build that! Yea Barry!!!!!!
By bigfresh (1161), north sea on Jul 31, 12 5:19 PM
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Trillions in offshore tax dodging havens too...
Jul 31, 12 5:21 PM appended by Mr. Z
Those who clothe themselves in "good deeds", are well camoflauged.
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Jul 31, 12 5:21 PM
We need to turn our pitchforks and torches in the proper direction.

That would be the direction of the Federal Reserve, and Wall St.

You're only dealing with the stooges in any other direction.
Jul 31, 12 5:20 PM appended by Mr. Z
"The good of the many, outweighs the good of the one, or the senseless selfishness of a few...". I hope...
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Jul 31, 12 5:20 PM
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Why isn't Obama attending? President of the People already sucked NY dry with two other $40,000 per head fund raisers in Manhattan, one of which where he addressed an audience of 60 wealthy donors and brought in $2.4 million. Whisked in by Air Force One and Marine One leaves me proud that I paid my taxes.

This is just the change that fell behind the cushions.
Jul 31, 12 6:45 PM appended by Captn America
Corrrection: In June Obama went to Manhattan for a pair of campaign events which raised a total of $4.5million, so the visit two days ago was trip number 3. Those Wall Street types sure have a lot of cashola.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Jul 31, 12 6:45 PM
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So, how many sticks are in this bucket of pig swill we call "politics"?
Jul 31, 12 6:49 PM appended by Mr. Z
Every cent printed by the Treasury, courtesy of the Federal Reserve. You tired yet, Cap'n?
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Jul 31, 12 6:49 PM
Obamas not attending because there's not enough wealthy people attending. Wait until he's out of office making millions a year as a private citizen. His private finances will follow the other wealthy folks of this country.
By realistic (248), westhampton on Jul 31, 12 7:04 PM
Only $2,500 to have my picture taken with the village idiot. I think I'll pass.
By dnice (1314), Hampton Bays on Jul 31, 12 8:29 PM
Let's round up the protesters. Bus them in. Get as outraged at this dinner as you did when Romney was in town. Wait, the President will be a no show? No tv coverage? Never mind.
By auntof9 (60), Southampton on Jul 31, 12 8:41 PM
Maybe if enough people showed, it would be camerawothry.

Make it a huge "melting pot". Everyone make your own sign. Doesn't have to name a candidate, if it's how you feel strongest. Your best slogan. Whatever pi$$e$ you off most. Write about it.

It's too late to organize formally and assign public parking spots, but park as far away as you reasonably can, and walk there. Maybe pocket a marker, and come up with your "peace" along the way.

I guess I'm hoping auntie ...more
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Jul 31, 12 9:06 PM
Can I ask a question?

Since we have a "Like" button...

Can we get a "Hate" button?
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Jul 31, 12 9:37 PM
Haha, great idea!!
By dnice (1314), Hampton Bays on Jul 31, 12 9:52 PM
Hey Mr. Z, could the new button tone down the rhetoric a bit, and be a "Dislike" button? Think about it . . . when you build the die to be cast for all to use in the future.

We are all shipmates in the same vessel.

Thank you.
By PBR (4364), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 11:51 AM
You read my mind.

Sorry if z was guilty of "baiting"...
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Aug 1, 12 8:41 PM
Whoops, guess I missed debate.
By PBR (4364), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 6:27 AM
Folks helping to re-elect an ineffective president who has been a complete failure. Obama=continued failing national economy (south fork excluded) and more money and troops dedicated to useless wars that do nothing to protect us. On the other hand, there is Romney, who is a best, the lesser of two evils. RON PAUL spoke the truth, but his ideas make to much sense to appeal to all the kool-aide drinkers. These folks who continue to worship Obama puzzle me even more than those who see Romney as some ...more
By louse pt. (89), springs on Jul 31, 12 10:35 PM
Folks helping to re-elect an ineffective president who has been a complete failure. Obama=continued failing national economy (south fork excluded) and more money and troops dedicated to useless wars that do nothing to protect us. On the other hand, there is Romney, who is a best, the lesser of two evils. RON PAUL spoke the truth, but his ideas make to much sense to appeal to all the kool-aide drinkers. These folks who continue to worship Obama puzzle me even more than those who see Romney as some ...more
By louse pt. (89), springs on Jul 31, 12 10:39 PM
Look at whose failed policies put us where we are (Bush)
then look at who Romney is hiring to his campaign as acvisors (Former Bush appointees and economic advisors)
A vote for Romney is a vote to return to the road to depression.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 6:58 AM
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Do you even consider in that equation world events, political policy pre-Bush, or decisions by congress? The decisions and policy behind the housing crash for example were made well before Bush. We were beginning a Clinton recession with the cool down of the technology boom when 9/11 hit. BAM.... there we went... the economy went to crap and was followed shortly thereafter with the housing bubble collapse.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 8:33 PM
Those of you who protest our President just don't seem to get it. The way this country has turned since the Civil Rights Law passed is just sad. I think it was inevitable. The southern white males just will not accept a black man or woman in any sort of power. It is that simple. It saddens me to know that a family in Little River, South Carolina is teaching their little girl to "cal that man what he is. He is a nig... Say it! That' what he is" this happened in 2011. I didn't dare say anything ...more
By summertime (488), summerfield fl on Aug 1, 12 10:49 AM
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Welcome to my world, summertime...
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Aug 1, 12 10:41 PM
Your experiences are the exception and not the rule, Summertime and you damn well know that.
Heer's a test for you, without googling it, where is the Mason-Dixon Line?
By Phadreus1340 (144), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:40 AM
Mr. you took the wrong line with me. The Mason Dixon line, just in case some others besides you need to be informed, is along the line of southern Pennsylvania and northern Maryland. That is what I learned in school with Mr. Cassidy. And appareantly you have not lived among the 99% in North Carolina like I did in the 1990's. And you have not lived among the folks in the county south of Ocala Fla. You have no idea what these people believe. My husband and I could tell you a lot about the education ...more
By summertime (488), summerfield fl on Aug 2, 12 7:31 PM
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Only the dumb and naive think that a politician can help us. Both parties are incompetant and are directed to help themselves. Goverment is the problem not the solution!
By chief1 (1227), southampton on Aug 1, 12 5:47 PM
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"Goverment is the problem not the solution!"

Is that why republicans are trying so hard to get elected?
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 6:38 PM
No, that's why the Tea Party is trying to get elected.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 8:34 PM
The tea party controls the republicans.That's why the entire republican party has moved far to the right and purged all the moderates-the ones willing to work with democrats to govern.Todays republican party isn't interested in governing.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 9:56 PM
The Tea Party exists because the GOP moved to the left and the liberal left has moved even further to the left. JFK wouldn't recognize the current day democratric party. The Tea Party exists to restore fiscal responsibility, limited government, and Constitutionality.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 1, 12 10:15 PM
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Once again,check your facts.The republican party has moved radically o the right in the last 20 years-Clinton a Obama are both only slightly left of center.
The right considers anybody to the left of Mussolini to be far left.
Reagan wouldn't make it in todays republican party;the republicans have been purging anyone in their party who is a moderate-look at the recent ads for he primaries in Texas where the tea party candidate painted a republican opponent as too "Moderate" for being willing ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 5:07 PM
Hysterical, Obama only slightly left of center. Right. So where does that put the Tea Party on the Phil scale if the republican party has moved radically to the right?
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 6:19 PM
The tea party is far,far right-the most radical of the republicans.They're the republicans brownshirts.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 7:09 PM
Well there you go. Liberals believe fiscal responsibility, limited government, and Constitutionality is radical - the "far, far right, the most radical of the republicans" to quote our resident "centrist liberal". That also puts Obama’s views in perspective. Glad we could clear that up.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 7:52 PM
If you look at history,you'll see that the middle class prospered under democratic administrations.The stock market did better,wages rose and productivity increased.As far as constitutionality,it's the right that wants to change the 14th amendment,it was Bush who disregarded the 4th,5th and 8th amendemnets;Bush got us into two wars without formal declarations-as required by he constitution,tthe republican congress that disregards the history of the the congress,members of the Bush administration ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 8:40 PM
I have no doubt that you believe these things. I hear someone on MSDNC thought that Romney should choose a chicken sandwhich from Chick-Fil-a for a running mate. It would be a treat to see Biden loose to the sandwhich in a debate.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:02 PM
Actually,it's a matter of historical record.

From Bloomberg-

"While Republicans promote themselves as the friendliest party for Wall Street, stock investors do better when Democrats occupy the White House. From a dollars- and-cents standpoint, it’s not even close.

The BGOV Barometer shows that, over the five decades since John F. Kennedy was inaugurated, $1,000 invested in a hypothetical fund that tracks the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index (SPX) only when Democrats ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:23 PM
So with the left and it's Occupy ranks waging war on Wall Street, the wealthy, business and capitalism, you should all be supporting republicans as part of your master plan.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:33 PM
The republicans are leading their lemmings into fascism.
Don't count on me following.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:47 PM
You mean like liberals calling for the boycott of businesses because of religous beliefs? Wait, where was a similar thing done in history...hmmmm.... oh yeah.... Nazi Germany.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 10:16 PM
Didn't the Germans also persecute catholics,gypsies,the sick,invalids,homosexuals and the mentally ill?
Sounds like todays republican party platform
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 10:20 PM
they outlawed birth control,too.
now we know where to look for the next republican policy-to the past.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 10:24 PM
An elected person like democrat Rahm "dead fish" Emanuel, using his power of elected office to shut down a business -- not because it violated any law or broke any regulation, but because he doesnn't like the position on traditional marriage... This would be fascism.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 6, 12 7:54 AM
He didn't block anything;he hasn't used his power to shut chick-fil-A down.Your just repeating the usual right wing hyperbole
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 6:30 PM
Fascism Now: Chick-fil-A's values are not Chicago values. They're not respectful of our residents, our neighbors and our family members. And if you're gonna be part of the Chicago community, you should reflect Chicago values…A Chicago alderman wants to kill Chick-fil-A's plans to build a restaurant in his increasingly trendy Northwest Side ward because the fast-food chain's top executive vocally opposes gay marriage.

Fascism Then: On April 1, 1933, the Nazis carried out the first ...more
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 7:23 PM
He hasn't shut down e one that is already there,and it's unlikely he will be able to stop another one from opening.

Nice to see that your familiar with the origins of republican policy,too.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 7:27 PM
Nazi germany didn't shut them down either... initially... Facsism.... pure and simple.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 7:49 PM
You're the expert.You know your favorite form of government best
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 8:54 PM
Thank you. It's always good to know the tactics and beliefs of your adversaries.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 8, 12 9:46 PM
You're at odds with the republican party?
I didn't know you were a liberal.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 4:54 PM
Of course I am. In many respects they are no different than the democrats. Any reasonable person would say the same thing about either one of them.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 6:43 PM
Joe Biden: Proof that even an idiot can succeed in America.
By MickNY (43), East Hampton on Aug 2, 12 7:09 AM
Comment removed before censor has the chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By patrickstar (65), hampton bays on Aug 2, 12 9:33 AM
No don't blame liberal ideas. The illegal immigration problem costs us 700 billion a year, and the welefare handout program costs us 400 billion. All ideas of liberals and our lazy policies
By chief1 (1227), southampton on Aug 2, 12 10:03 AM
Blame the conservatives.It all started when Reagan gave amnesty to millions.
Once they saw that,our immigration problem began to grow.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 5:09 PM
No, the core issue is the failure over the last 30 years of democrat and republican leaders to secure the borders after the Reagan amnesty. The liberal entitlement mentality only served to provide the incentive to exploit the vulnerability.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 6:32 PM
The republicans occupied he white house for 20 of the last 28 years before Obama;where was the outrage when they were in power?
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 6:54 PM
On the side of the left.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 8:32 PM
But to your point, Reagan himself was even disappointed about the outcome of the border not being secured. If you think those that oppose illegal immigration and open borders hold republicans to any less of a standard, you're sorely mistaken.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 8:35 PM
I never said that.What I did state was that the immigration problem can't be solved by trying to deport every immigrant;the right disregards the constitution by asserting that they can stop and search anyone at any time.(see the 4th amendmnt)
We need to create a path to citizenship and secure the borders;The republican plan called the Dream Act would serve us well,but since Obama decided that i was a good idea al we hearis opposition to it.
Same with healthcare-the rght supported a mandate ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 8:48 PM
Not to be argumentative, but, you didn't say any of those things. What you said was "Blame the conservatives.It all started when Reagan gave amnesty to millions. Once they saw that,our immigration problem began to grow." Illegal activity should not be rewarded with citizenship. Citizenships should not be cheapened or degraded. The left perpetuates misrepresentations about the right – case in point, reference to stop and search – False.

The US is a drastically different country ...more
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:17 PM
flip-flop.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:29 PM
flop-flip.
Aug 2, 12 9:34 PM appended by Captn America
Also known as "evolved."
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:34 PM
that's correct-evolved.
we'll leave the knuckle-dragging to the reublicans.They're the ones who want to "conserve" it.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:48 PM
No matter where you end up, always remember where you came from, it's "lib"erating.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 10:10 PM
Ronald Reagen gave amnesty to three million illegals.
By Mets fan (353), Southampton on Aug 4, 12 7:20 PM
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And he is and was applauded for it. It was the correct thing to do at the time. The other aspect of the amnesty was to secure the borders. Republicans and democrats have failed to do this. One of Reagan's regrets other than the deficit was granting amnesty before the borders were secure. We should learn from that lesson.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 6, 12 7:38 AM
And Cuba got the chance to clean out their jails.
Crossing the border llegally is minor cmpared to what Reagan allowed into this country
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 6, 12 4:31 PM
Great point, only the Mariel Boatlift was Carter's Dream Act. Obama's version will be just as damaging.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 4:24 PM
I'm not talking about that,I'm talking about the amnesty Reagan granted once they were here.
Of course,a conservative would have left the boat people out there.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 5:01 PM
24000 cubans of 125000 had criminal records. Contrary to the media attention only 2% or 2746 Cubans were actual criminals under United States law and they WERE NOT granted citizenship.

Now, fast forward. We have 30 million illegals in the country by modest estimates – bleeding the country dry at every turn. On second glance, your point is pure crap.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 6:46 PM
Oh,that madei okay-he only let 24,000 with criminal records.That's almost as many as the total number of illegals you quoted above,if it's accurate,which,according to CNN,it isn't.

"Below are a few facts about immigration in the United States:

– The number of illegal immigrants in the United States was estimated at 11.5 million in 2011, according to the Pew Hispanic Center.

– The illegal immigrant population grew by 27% between 2000 and 2009, according to the ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 6:56 PM
And that all demonstrates....
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 7:25 PM
that you are relying on innaccurate information.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 7:30 PM
I don't see the connection. The issue is the Mariel Boatlift and Regan giving citizenship to them.

"I'm talking about the amnesty Reagan granted once they were here." FALSE!!
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 7:48 PM
Your assertion that there ae 30 million illegals here is wrong-the article I cited states that it's more like 11 million.
If you can't get the present numbers straight,we can't trust you when you re-write history to cover up Reagan's amnesty,which as what opened the door to todays' immigration problems.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 7, 12 8:58 PM
A study conducted by a hispanic organization? Let's face it no one knows how many illegal immigrants are currently in the US. Any such study is laughable with no validity whatsoever.
By razza5350 (1516), East Hampton on Aug 7, 12 11:13 PM
Yeah, there is no reason for the federal government gate keeper who is responsible for the problem to intentionally under estimate the figures, is there.

You need to brush up on your immigration law Phil. The criminals you cite as having been given citizenship were excludable and sent back to Cuba.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 8, 12 8:36 AM
So 10% of the entire population is illegal immigrants?
I have a Pew research paper that backs that up-
"1 Feb 11As of March 2010, 11.2 million unauthorized immigrants were living in the U.S., virtually unchanged from a year earlier and remaining well below the population's peak of 12 million in 2007. The number of unauthorized immigrants in the nation's workforce (8 million) also has not changed in the past year.
Pew Hispanic Center"

The New York Times and the Washington Post ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 8, 12 4:58 PM
Are you really suggesting we debate the number of illegals in the country as if that really matters to the earlier point that Reagan giving amnesty to cuban criminals was worse than the level of illegals in the US today?

Fine, I concede the point. It's 11 million. You're still out of your gord that the impact of the cuban issue trumps the damage illegals are doing to the country today.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 8, 12 9:39 PM
Phil. Just curious. How do the people putting these figures together determine how many illegals are living in this country and how many are working?
By razza5350 (1516), East Hampton on Aug 9, 12 12:30 AM
To cappie and raz-

I provided the information,if you want to research i for yourself then go ahead.I won't do your homework for you while all you do is throw stones
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 4:37 PM
"How do the people putting these figures together determine how many illegals are living in this country and how many are working?"

I can't figure it out either razza. I thought they were living in the shadows.

By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 6:19 PM
Go to the site and read the data.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 6:30 PM
I've already conceded the point regardless of the research. 11 million ...30 million ... what's plus or minus 19 million illegals sucking the country dry compared to 2746 Cubans who were sent back to Cuba.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 7:31 PM
Some of us think accuracy is important.
others-not so much,especially if it involves partisan politics.

Bill Moyers did an article," Facts Do matter".
I take it that very few of my friends on the right have ever read it.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 9:49 PM
Print something on paper and it becomes a fact? Is that how it works? I am not saying you are wrong or right I am merely asking a simple question. How did they come up with the number 11 million (True fact is no one knows)? If the group conducting the study can demonstrate what data and research they used it would make your blanket statement more plausible.
By razza5350 (1516), East Hampton on Aug 10, 12 8:18 AM
Look it up for yourself-I found the similar numbers from other sites.
I seriously doubt that 10% of the population is illegal immigrants.Where did you get that number?
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 10, 12 8:39 AM
Where in my posts did I say 10% of the population are illegal immigrants? My point is no one knows. I don't care who is providing these so called studies. I have yet to see a study that explains to me how they came up with these numbers. You keep saying you can find "similar numbers from other sites" but you cant explain to me how they came up with these figures. Until you can I will assume they were plucked out of thin air and are not valid
By razza5350 (1516), East Hampton on Aug 10, 12 11:01 AM
I told you where I found them;all you have to do is google the study and you'll find them,too.All it takes is a little work.

It was the captain who said there were 30 million illegals in this country;since the total population is over 300 million,that would make 30 mil 10% of the population. You didn't dispute his numbers,so you must have agreed with them.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 10, 12 5:08 PM
All of you folks that love Romeny and the adlepated tea party should move the the villages in Fla. In that community of 96,000 souls there in one newspaper, one tv chanel, and one radio station all so censored that only republican view points are printed and spoken. Sounds like heaven huh? And ONLY Republicans are allowed to attend events wherein the speaker is a Republican. When GWB was wined and dined there the protestors were held 2 miles away and kept under strict control by the police. Any ...more
By summertime (488), summerfield fl on Aug 2, 12 7:48 PM
Condi Rice, Herman Cain, Colin Powell or Col. West would all make great presidents, race has nothing to do with it. One can be against the Almighty Barak strictly on the basis of his failed policies and extreme left wing idealogy without being a racist.
By bigfresh (1161), north sea on Aug 2, 12 8:10 PM
But we know that your against obama for none of the reasons you cited.
we already know why you're against Obama.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:32 PM
BF:
"You don't have to be a racist to be against Obama,but it helps"
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 2, 12 9:33 PM
Quit your charade bf. Your racism pours through your posts. Be a bigoted man and just own it. His failed policies don't look like it hit here. Everybody is cranking out here. If you don't tap into the money coming here, you are stupid or lazy. Stop complaining with a loaf of bread under each arm about Obama's policies. Life is pretty sweet here and businesses are raking it in.
By Mets fan (353), Southampton on Aug 4, 12 7:28 PM
The Villages sound like heaven-all that plus golf everyday.
By EastEnd68 (813), Westhampton on Aug 4, 12 7:57 PM
Google it and get their video promo. we did and we visited.
By summertime (488), summerfield fl on Aug 8, 12 9:08 AM
Business in our very insulated corner of the world is doing well thanks, In spite of Obama's dismal record . Chalk it up to the resilience of entrepeneurs and the 1%ers who choose to live here. Having a Marxist in the White House who started His career in the home of a domestic terrorist is no way to run a country. Addind 5 trillion of NEW DEBT will hurt our economy in the long run, He has no clue when it comes to business and what has made our country strong over the years.
It's sad when ...more
By bigfresh (1161), north sea on Aug 5, 12 7:26 AM
No.

What's sad is how you fail to understand the complexity of our economic system. Business out here "doing well" is an illusion. It is the result of a host of welfare programs for the "elite". More cash has been printed in the last ten years than ever before, and there is more "wealth" in existence than there ever has been in recorded history. Since 2001, $5,000,000,000,000 has been printed and simply created out of thin air. That's a more than quintupling of the money supply since ...more
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Aug 5, 12 8:47 AM
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Well said, Mr. Z.

The Obama vs. Romney debates here and elsewhere assume that the President is in charge. He is not! In fact, the President has very little power to change policy.

He can set the tone for the country, and suggest and cheer lead for certain policies. But the real power lies deeper than most people would want to know or admit.

The old term "Military Industrial Complex" sheds some light. The term "Cheney/Bush I/Bush II Cartel" illuminates a bit more. And so ...more
By PBR (4364), Southampton on Aug 5, 12 9:28 AM
"welfare programs for the elite" what a joke. More class warefare BS from Z. The major reason we keep printing money is two fold. 1. We need to devalue the dollar to remain competitve globally. 2. We spend to much as a country. If we didnt print more money we would be bankrupt.
By razza5350 (1516), East Hampton on Aug 5, 12 10:58 PM
It began with Reagan and his massive tax cuts.He borowed from SS,which put that in a hole.Now the right fights to maintain low taxes,even wanting to cut them further,and get rid of programs that help the poor and maintain the middle class to pay for them.
That's class warfare-supporting the rich on the backs of the poor.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 6, 12 5:42 AM
Yeah lets raise taxes, watch us fall of the fiscal cliff, see more rich people give up their citizenship, and watch unemployment really go through the roof. Great idea.
By razza5350 (1516), East Hampton on Aug 6, 12 9:03 AM
It's time to raise taxes on thwho can afford it and reaped the benefits of trickle-down economics,which doesn't work.We've been giving them tax breaks for years and we still don't see any jobs produced.
where are the jobs?
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 6, 12 4:29 PM
Well razza...

When is the last time you received a 400K loan that did not have to be paid back if you failed?

Well, it's almost equivalent to the 3M plus loans the "elite" received post baillout.

How do you like your "crow"?
Aug 6, 12 9:13 PM appended by Mr. Z
BTW razza, we are already "bankrupt". The Federal Reserve has already indefintely suspended payments due from the Treasury...
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Aug 6, 12 9:13 PM
Maybe this is a little off topic, but I just read an interesting story about Tim Bishop. Tim seems to think its ok to pay his young daughter Molly 150k for fundraising a year. I've voted for Tim for the fact I thought he being an East Ender he could help raise money for projects here. It seems he is yet again raising money for his family as he did when he was at Southampton College. At Southampton he had more than 10 family members on the payroll. doing God knows what. This report about Tims daugter ...more
By chief1 (1227), southampton on Aug 5, 12 8:22 AM
Do you realize the best way to observe the Universe, is as far away from "civilizaton" as possible?
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Aug 6, 12 9:38 PM
For Mr. Z I heard on the news this am that one of the "reporters" stationed at the olympics said he'd rather stay over there until Nov. 10 or so. This campaign season is really nutty.
I say congress should WORK 5 days a week, they work only 3 days in these past sessions. They have accompolished nothing to help move this country forward and they shut down business while the people in the west fry.
My prayers go out to those folks suffering from heat, bad air, loss of crops, loss of homes ...more
By summertime (488), summerfield fl on Aug 8, 12 9:31 AM
Why does that extended vacation not surprise me?

I can't say expatriation hasn't crossed my mind now and then...

By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Aug 8, 12 8:01 PM
I see Obama is beating his chest on the campaign trail pretending he's for the little guy and setting his sights on other manufacturing segments for government takeover like it did GM - which is 42 billion of 80 billion in the hole in tax payer funded bailout. No, he's not a socialist. The biggest job destroyer in history doesn't give a damn about the little guy - he's hell bent on driving up prices on energy and everything else he can get his hands on. Closing coal mines, decreasing capability ...more
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 6:53 PM
I guess you didn't see the ad with the man who lost his wife to cancer after Bain bankrupted and sold he steel mill he worked at.
I wonder if Romney is hiding his connections to stories like that by not releasing his tax returns?
I wonder how many other lives he ruined.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 9:43 PM
Oh,and I hink Obama will be re-elected.I have a feeling that it may not be as close as we are being told,since Romney keeps steppng on his own....whatchamacallit
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 9:53 PM
Why won't the republicans vote for a jobs pan?
where is their proposal?
what have they been doing for the last 2 years?

oh,yeah-

Here's what the republicans have introduced-
46 bills on abortion
113 bills on religon
73 bills on family relationships
36 bills on marriage
72 bills on firearms
604 ...more ...more bills on taxation
467 bills on government investigation

yet ... they blocked the jobs bill.

By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 9, 12 10:05 PM
Oh I saw the ad, and I've come to learn that democrats are even bigger liars than we could fathom. Better check your facts on the timeline and particulars.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 10, 12 2:11 PM
The timeline fits.
Bain closed the steel mill,which if it remained open the man would heve retained his health insurance which would have detected his wifes cancer and sved her life.
You don't think Soptic would still have been working there if Bain didn't bankrupt it?

You are also quick to condemn the super pac that made this ad,which is all fact as Soptic sees it,but I never heard you condemn the ads put out by Romny and his super pacs.Once again,the far right applies a double ...more
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 10, 12 2:23 PM
From Factcheck: We find this ad from Priorities USA Action to be misleading on several counts.

Steelworker Joe Soptic’s wife, Ranae, died in 2006 — five years after the plant closed.
She didn’t lose coverage when the plant closed. Mr. Soptic told CNN that she lost her own employer-sponsored coverage a year or two later. She had no coverage after that.
And as we’ve reported before, when the plant closed Romney was running the 2002 Winter Olympics.
Aug 10, 12 3:06 PM appended by Captn America
If this is the standard you want to set, then OBAMA is responsible for all the illegals who commit crimes and murder while in illegally in the US.
By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 10, 12 3:06 PM
But it's true.
Bain bankrupted the steel mill and Soptic lost his job and health insurance,so his wife couldn't be screened or treated for cancer,and she died.
If Bain didn't drive the steel mill into bankruptcy,Soptic would have been working there and had health insurance,and his wife might be alive today.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 11, 12 6:42 PM
They blocked the jobs bill? The goverment has gone another 3 trillion in debt trying to create jobs and it is questionable wether they have created any. Maybe it's time to let the private sector create them.
By chief1 (1227), southampton on Aug 9, 12 11:01 PM
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The private sector asked for, and received a "tax holiday" so as to create jobs.

They proceeded to pocket the windfall profit, and lay people off.

GET REAL!
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Aug 10, 12 5:30 PM
That story has been debunked there Phil. On to the next Daily Kos or Huffington Post talking point. You have to keep up, you're usually better than this.
By bigfresh (1161), north sea on Aug 10, 12 7:03 AM
Actually,the republicans filibustered the extension of unemployment benefits;on July 20th the democrats garnered enough votes to overcome the filibuster,which was holding up the entire bill.

That was from factcheck.org
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 10, 12 8:37 AM
Yes, garnered enough republican votes. Republicans argued that it should not be paid for with $33 billion in additional deficit spending. Republicans had called on Democrats to use unspent stimulus funds for any more unemployment extensions, an idea that Democrats rejected.

Once again the left demonizes any attempt at fiscal responsibility.

By Captn America (3968), Southampton on Aug 10, 12 2:28 PM
So to pay for it,let the tax cuts for people making over 250,000/year expire.
end of problem. The democrats aren't afraid to pay for what they propose,unlike Bush,who put everything on the credit card and put us where we are.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 10, 12 5:09 PM
The republicans aren't interested in fiscal responsibility;all they want is to get back in power.Romney has a host of Bush economic advisors on his team-the very people who put us here.Just the people we want to tackle the economy.
By philathome (8603), Southampton on Aug 10, 12 5:18 PM
Bigfool, captn crunch, cheif0, et al, I cannot wait till November 7 to hear your sobbing! I know you want nothing more than to be like Mitt, but don't give up, you'll never have his money, but you sure do whine like him!
By witch hazel (185), tatooine on Aug 10, 12 5:13 PM
"...what they should be doing instead is hammering Romney on the missing returns, yes, but focusing even more on the returns he did release. We’ve known for seven months now, for instance, that Romney paid $3 million in federal taxes in 2010 on $21.7 million in taxable revenue, an effective tax rate of 13.9 percent. Which, as most people know, is less than half the rate most people pay on their income tax.

When Romney released these numbers, he said they were "entirely legal and ...more
By Mr. Z (6044), North Sea on Aug 10, 12 8:01 PM
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