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Feb 7, 2012 1:09 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

Tim Bishop Given Environmental Steward Award

Feb 16, 2012 11:52 AM

U.S. Representative Tim Bishop has been awarded the 2012 Nelson A. Rockefeller Award for Environmental Stewardship for his work on clean water issues.

The award is issued by the New York Water Environment Association, a statewide, non-profit organization, and is meant to honor an elected official who has made substantial contributions to advancing water quality and the environment.

Mr. Bishop is the lead sponsor of the Water Quality Protection and Job Creation Act of 2011, which will invest $13.8 billion over five years in infrastructure upgrades and in a clean water trust fund to provide long-term financing. He is also the lead sponsor of the Long Island Sound Improvement Act Amendments of 2011, which aims to improve and restore water quality in the sound by providing new funding and regulatory tools for municipalities. He also defeated a plan to dump dredge spoil as well as led the opposition against a plan to industrialize the sound.

NYWEA created the award in 1973 and named it after Governor Nelson Rockefeller, who had a hand in modernizing state parks as well as leading conservation efforts during his time in office.

Recipients include Governor George Pataki, Senator Edmund Muskee, Mayor Michael Bloomberg and U.S. Representative Nita Lowey.

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Well done, Tim Bishop. Here on the East End, our relationship to the environment is vital. We're not like some mill town upstate where the economy depends on the factory and the environment is secondary in that sense. We're a resort comunity, and the environment IS the economy. If we don't have that special attraction, people won't come here. More of us should realize that the East End business community has a fundamental interest in environmental preservation, and Tim Bishop is directly promoting ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1955), Quiogue on Feb 7, 12 4:34 PM
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Well deserved, Mr. Bishop. Thank You.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Feb 7, 12 4:36 PM
Turkey and dagdavid whow up on the scene like good little boys. Look, if you want to vote for someone who is entrenched in the gridlock and despicable graft that takes place in the most corrupt city on the planet, then vote for Tim Bishop. Just look, the machine know he is in trouble, so they present a symbol of absolutely nothing to him for an award that he earned by achieving absolutely nothing. For cryin' out loud, when Obama is awarded the Nobel Peace prize, any other elitest goof of such ...more
By Yourekiddingright? (3), outhampton on Feb 7, 12 4:52 PM
Altschuler the multimillionaire carpetbagger spent three million dollars in 2010 attempting to defeat Mr Bishop. Why spend that kind of money for a seat in Congress that pays less than 200,000.00? He's an opportunist who knows nothing about the people in this district. He'd get plenty of votes in India where he created many,many jobs. btw when Obama won the Peace Prize it was the World's way of saying Thank God Bush is gone
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Feb 8, 12 11:04 PM
"Why spend that kind of money for a seat in Congress that pays less than 200,000.00?"
Mr Bishop had also spent over three million dollars during that election cycle, so what does that tell you? In fact he had outspent each challenger in the previous three elections, shelling out nearly ten million dollars total. So Bob, tell me why Altshuler should be shunned for doing what Bishop has mastered. I'll not hold my breath for a response.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Feb 9, 12 6:03 AM
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I wouldn't lend TianaBob 2 seconds of response time. This guy is all over the map. He spends equal time attacking anyone who isn't on the (d) team and when effectively hammered he tried to take the high road and say that he isn't for any single candidate or party. If you are going to participate in a community keyboard fest here, at least come correct and be intellectually honest. Your arguments are taken right from the cemetary of philathome, shnative and others defunct and unsupportable commentary.
By Spanky769 (2), Southampton on Feb 9, 12 7:15 AM
Somewhat true. The Nobel was the international Lefts's award to Obama for not being the warrior Bush, it certainly couldn't be anything else. Only problem is we now have 3 (2.5?) wars instead of 2 and the Muslim Brotherhood is now winning. Oh right, that is "peace" to the Left
By smacw (239), New York on Feb 11, 12 9:50 AM
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And you are right, only millionaire Kennedy;s should be allowed to carpetbag, because they are so much more gifted than the rest of us.
By smacw (239), New York on Feb 11, 12 9:51 AM
If you are always local why are you for a carpetbagging multimillionaire? Bishop is local. His Family goes back 100s of years.He didn't spend 3 million dollars of his own money.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Feb 22, 12 4:10 PM
Warrior Bush? His daddy snuck him into the Air Guard to avoid service in Vietnam. My friends and I were drafted,went to Vietnam. Some were killed some were wounded. Bush started an illegal and immoral war in Iraq. Runs in the family. Google Tarpley to see some of the crimes the Bush gang has committed. Including first Banking Hitler before WWII. Google Union Bank 1942 to see how Prescott Bush was tied to Hitler during WWII.There are 3 books coming out about the Bush gang.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Feb 23, 12 10:59 AM
I knew people like You'rekidding and the Captain would be nipping at the heels of this story, trying to tear down Tim's accomplishment any way they could, so I thought I'd get out in front of them. Glad I did.

By the way, Cap, if legislation doesn't get sponsored and go in the hopper in the first place, it never gets passed. Someone has to start the ball rolling. You make a good point, though -- the Republican majority in the House may very well shoot down Tim's bills for their own political ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1955), Quiogue on Feb 8, 12 4:47 AM
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Its not called tearing it down, its called shedding the light of truth on the trickery, smoke and mirrors and outright unethical lies that are the politics of today. And this trickery and deceit and doubletalk has its cross-hairs aimed squarely on you, your children and your grandchildren. So you tell me, would you prefer to save the republic and the way of life we have enjoyed for our grandchildren or would you prefer to hand over a situation where the government is flying drones over the us ...more
By Heywood J. (5), East Hampton on Feb 8, 12 6:31 AM
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Fine, I will address this which you obviously think is pretty poignant there TB:

"We're a resort comunity, and the environment IS the economy. If we don't have that special attraction, people won't come here. More of us should realize that the East End business community has a fundamental interest in environmental preservation, and Tim Bishop is directly promoting local jobs by his efforts in this regard."
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OK, let me respond....BS. ...more
By Heywood J. (5), East Hampton on Feb 8, 12 6:38 AM
What are you talking about? Where did I mention Altschuler? I just said the environment's vital to our economy and Tim Bishop's trying to help. No more, no less. If you want to bring Altschuler into it, do it on your own hook.
By Turkey Bridge (1955), Quiogue on Feb 8, 12 2:49 PM
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let me help you understand the world a little better. bishop is running against altschuler. for his life. the article here was sent to the press to give the impression that tim bishop is better than he actually is. there is no real award, there was no achievement of anything. so the article is planted for folks like you who are easily swayed, to think bishop had accomplished something, which is very rare actually. so in fact, responding to you requires a little bit of the big pitcure to shed ...more
By Heywood J. (5), East Hampton on Feb 9, 12 7:09 AM
Let's see . . . who's anti-environment? All the pols in DC (mostly Republicans) who are trying to shoot down the EPA, who want to open up the Alaska wilderness to drilling, who start firing when anyone says "global . . ." not even letting them get to "warming," and who struggle fiercely against any regulation of mining, drilling, or lumbering, anywhere. Who else? All the pols on the East End (mostly Republicans) who can't spell "sustainability" and don't want to, who support greedy propertyowners' ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1955), Quiogue on Feb 9, 12 3:32 PM
Good comment, Captain. Sounds to me like you're saying there's a middle ground where all (or most) can meet to work out a "common sernse approach" on these issues and we need to ignore the extremists on both sides. I'm for that.
By Turkey Bridge (1955), Quiogue on Feb 10, 12 7:35 AM
I'm not. That means you need to be able to have trust in ethical comprises and civil behavior. That is not possible in my opinion.
By Stankbottomjones (2), Southampton on Feb 10, 12 11:18 AM
The politicians have all been bought by the Banks,big oil and Big Pharma. We're in an economic war with China,India and others. Guess what we aren't winning. Better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone-Dylan. Very good advise. God Bless the 99%.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Feb 23, 12 5:59 PM
I do have to wonder if Mr. Altschuler will be as familiar with the needs of the East End, as a local is. Being local is not the only reason to elect someone to office, but electing someone who is like a shark smelling blood via the Tea Party debacle wouldn't be prudent either.

Before we totally condemn either candidate, let's get right in Mr. Altschuler's face, and ask him what he knows about the waters, flora, and fauna of the the East End. See if he understands that this environment ...more
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 8, 12 8:35 AM
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Mr Z congrats. No mention of plutocracy or the Glass seagal act in the post. Somehow I have the feeling there is nothing Randy could do to get your vote other than become a marxist
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Feb 8, 12 9:18 AM
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You're kidding, right?
By Yourekiddingright? (3), outhampton on Feb 8, 12 9:19 AM
Sad part is, he's not. He's really that ignorant.

"An elective despotism was not the government we fought for."

~ Thomas Jefferson

Oligarchy IS a form of despotism. And, it you don't think it exists, I guess you missed that 2006 Citibank memo...
Feb 9, 12 7:07 PM appended by Mr. Z
Search: 6674234-Citigroup-Oct-16-2005-Plutonomy-Report-Part-1.pdf
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 9, 12 7:07 PM
I knew you couldnt resist.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Feb 15, 12 4:09 PM
And I know, you know little...
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 16, 12 8:21 PM
nice job on defeating a plan to dump dredge soit although I have a hard time any representative would have a hard time being in favor of that. The rest is total BS.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Feb 8, 12 9:13 AM
Speaking of total bs, here comes Razza. Do you have some kind if computer software that alerts you anytime Bishop's name is mentioned so you can get up off of the sofa and make some lame comment before anyone else?
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Feb 8, 12 10:25 PM
I do have a bell that goes off. Its a ring tone that alerts me to another BS article about a persons salary that is gigantic waste of taxpayer money. Amazingly the article is always about Timmy Bishop...useless...useless
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Feb 9, 12 9:12 AM
you do realize that the first 2 sycophants on here were bishop supporters right? nothing like a little projection to set you up for a nice slumber eh?
By Heywood J. (5), East Hampton on Feb 9, 12 7:11 AM
Calling them sycophants, I guess that makes you an Altschuler supporter, huh Heywood? Tell us all about Randy and his great work for the Indian economy, sending our jobs over there. While you're at it, tell us about his Long Island roots and his deep devotion to this area where he just moved because they wouldn't elect him to anything in New Jersey. (2nd choice to New Jersey -- how bad is that?) And try not to use too many big words, huh? You might lose me.
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on Feb 10, 12 7:53 AM
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Has anyone seen the disgraceful and embarrassing by Tim Bishop on the floor yesterday? You want to be completely ashamed by your representative go look at it. He spends the first 40 seconds talking about Bush and the Tea Party in the most divisive finger pointing and then goes on to fast- talk like the federal express commercial of the 90s and the only point he seems to be making is ''me good'', ''them bad''. If you've been to DC lately, you know that there is an overriding sense of war, that ...more
By Spanky769 (2), Southampton on Feb 9, 12 7:21 AM
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He was excellent but some are just too blinded by ignorance to see that. Thank you, Tim.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Feb 9, 12 12:44 PM
What were your top 3 favorite parts or which 3 main points of Tim's did you think were the best?
By TianarRob (10), Southampton on Feb 9, 12 4:28 PM
Strange in as much as the Tea Party got started in opposition of the Bush bailouts of the Auto companies
By smacw (239), New York on Feb 11, 12 9:55 AM
I'm still amazed that any representative of the people can be against less governmental spending, a more efficient federal beuracracy and less government in our daily lives. This puppet of the uber left has to go.
By bigfresh (4490), north sea on Feb 9, 12 11:43 AM
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It seems like they ALL have to go. Yesterday a survey was released that shows 40% of Americans approve of the job being done by the IRS. The same survey showed only 10% approve of the job being done by Congress.

To paraphrase Pogo: First, kill all the partisans.
By VOS (1219), WHB on Feb 9, 12 12:24 PM
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"Ol' Billy was right..."
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 10, 12 12:46 PM
The only environment Bishop has ever worked at preserving his is own. His environment of payolas, bribery, graft, back room deals and schemes to trick the public, his expense reports, company cars and underground parking lots. Tim's environment includes a spectacular view of the top of your heads because he looks down at you as little people not intelligent, capable or willing to take care of yourself. The problem his, Tim's environment and our environment are mutually exclusive. He saves himself ...more
By ChickenHawk (4), East Hampton on Feb 11, 12 6:21 AM
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Thanks, Tim. BTW there's a toxic plume in Remsenburg that's headed to the bay. You may want to clean that up soon. The bay is, uh, important.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Feb 11, 12 8:56 PM
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Actually, the plume is in Speonk, hence the name - Speonk plume. It is under people's homes and has affected people's water wells. The BBS Lumber plume was remediated but the solvent plume was not. I guess the bay is important to people in Remsenburg, but I'm more concerned about the humans.
By lucky and aware (44), Speonk on Feb 12, 12 11:04 AM
to lucky and aware:

Was the BBS lumber plume to which you refer caused by that factory on the Speonk-Riverhead road that produced CCA lumber and had a sign notifying drivers that the steam produced by the plant was normal?

If so, when and how was the plume remediated?

Thanks.
By highhatsize (4115), East Quogue on Feb 12, 12 11:28 AM
Thats what that was! I remember driving by there with tinted sunglasses on and that rising smoke taking on an unearthly hue.
By smacw (239), New York on Feb 12, 12 12:30 PM
to HHS:

http://www.dec.ny.gov/chemical/68513.html

http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/Speonk/302038/Remediation-work-begins-at-former-lumber-yard-in-Speonk
By lucky and aware (44), Speonk on Feb 12, 12 2:51 PM
Dearest Lucky and Unaware,
The leading edge of the plume currently sits on the Rems / Speonk border (like it matters, but I'll play by your rules) at a depth of approx 60-80 feet. There is no current danger to humans unless they are using well water. To my knowledge those with wells in the danger zone have already been hooked up to city water. As to your assumption that people of Remsenburg care more about the bay than they do about people, I suggest that you not put words into others mouths ...more
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Feb 12, 12 3:42 PM
No need to play by my rules when you openly admit that is on the border and ergo, mostly if not exclusively, in Speonk. Only a handful got hooked up to public water and as one who was tested a few years ago, and not again since, I can tell you that they are not keeping up with the threat. The water is not the only problem since there is also seepage of gases through the basement to worry about. Regardless, I couldn't agree with your closing 2 sentences more.
By lucky and aware (44), Speonk on Feb 12, 12 7:56 PM
If you have concerns about soil vapor then I believe that you can have your property tested. I think it was 2 years ago, but as I remember the DEC did a soil vapor test here. The plume is migrating south / southeast. As it travels south the water table rises and soil vapor could become more of an issue. No house west of Nidzyn Ave should take the risk of having well water.

I apologize for my attack. Your post inadvertently accused Remsenburg residents of not caring about people, and it ...more
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Feb 12, 12 8:50 PM
Tim needs a "Post It" board, STRICTLY for environmental concerns, no matter how or small?

Couldn't we create a couple jobs, for people to moderate the message board?
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 14, 12 7:34 PM
Yeah, let's create a couple of jobs to moderate a mesage board. Now there is a proud poppa.
By TianarRob (10), Southampton on Feb 15, 12 4:39 PM
really... and just how would you like to see it moderated. Anyone that does not agree with you as to leave
By joe hampton (3382), south hampton on Feb 15, 12 12:31 PM
Well, at least Phil knows what he's talking about.

If "set you straight" isn't a homophobe reference, try "The Great American Stickup", by Robert Scheer.

If that doesn't "set you straight", nothing can.
Feb 15, 12 9:14 PM appended by Mr. Z
Well, maybe the Neil Barofsky report could hold a candle to the "power brokers" too...
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 15, 12 9:14 PM
Z ???????? Really I do not think thats what Captain was saying.
By joe hampton (3382), south hampton on Feb 16, 12 4:02 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By TianarRob (10), Southampton on Feb 16, 12 4:18 PM
You were probably a hall moniter who had to tolerate the miscreants that weren't as elevated as someone like you who was destined to ''moderate a board''. Big stuff. On those other boards is there anyone who uses the phrases ''I'' and ''me'' as much as you Phyllis?
By Spankerstein (6), Southampton on Feb 16, 12 5:13 PM
You know what this board needs?

Emoticons.

Definitely a "sarcasm" one, and of course some creatively animated ones. I always did like the majorgeeks website set...
Feb 16, 12 7:00 PM appended by Mr. Z
Have you ever read "Of People, and Pandas"? Apparently, the Flintstones was a documentary according to this good book...
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 16, 12 7:00 PM
"Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense and Stick You With The Bill" by David Cay Johnston was pretty good too. Pretty scathing report on American corporate socialism.
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 16, 12 8:10 PM
Thank you for allowing us to see what it is like when two like minded and seasoned board posters converse. It is just like we thought, the mutual admiration society. Hahaha. How many knuckleheads does it take to make Mr. Z feel like a man? 1.
By Spankerstein (6), Southampton on Feb 17, 12 6:17 AM
How many posters does it take to hurl a meager attempt at an insult?

1.
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 17, 12 11:57 AM
Why use dog whistle comments just drop the political correctness and say what you mean.The problem seems to me to be the opposite to much censorship. I mean you should be able to speak your mind how else can others can show you the error of your ways. If you don't know how someone really feels how can you try to show him where and how he may be wrong ???
By They call me (2731), southampton on Feb 17, 12 11:02 PM
Why you're trying to define it, we're all layin' it down there Phyllis. Just like someone from your team to try and regulate, dictate, define and declare when things aren't really going your way in the sand-box. Whatever you feel like labeling me, that's fine. If it feels better and less stressful for you to label someone a Dogwhistle, a troll or whatever label you moderators like to upchuck. The real world isn't a blog, its not moderated and there ain't no ground rules. Its straight up madness. ...more
By Spankerstein (6), Southampton on Feb 18, 12 6:06 AM
As a female, I find it completely insulting that you would use ''feminine'' in a derogatory manner like that? I think readers can judge on where you stand on women.
By JustineL (1), Southampton on Feb 18, 12 10:06 PM
Phil weather It is a fake account or not it seems you have to admit you stepped in it there
Feb 19, 12 11:30 PM appended by joe hampton
whether
By joe hampton (3382), south hampton on Feb 18, 12 11:30 PM
Young man, first you called everyone names and it didn't work, then you called the victims of your rants called feminine and now the ladies that are upset with you are calling YOU on it. We signed up because we saw your post and were offended. And you have the gall to avoid the issue, not apologize and share you opinion on the account status or frequency of use? The only one avoiding the issues here are you sonny. You don't respect women very much and that is obvious. In terms of people being ...more
By BettyW (1), Southampton on Feb 19, 12 6:35 AM
It is pretty obvious that PHILATHOME HATES WOMEN. Why do you hate women? A strong women who has the freedom of choice is threatening to you huh? Its not enough that women don't make as much as you men, you just have all out disrespect for women, that much is obvious, us ladies have read several of your posts and it is obvious what a overactive male ego you possess, always ready for a battle and just want to keep women down. Gross.
By SharonY (3), East Hampton on Feb 19, 12 6:40 AM
Frustrating when someone manufactures an entirely fake premise and then shouts it from the mountain tops. It starts to feel like its true if kept up right? Thank you for making the point. We are are everywhere.
By SharonY (3), East Hampton on Feb 19, 12 7:59 AM
Well Cap, as an Agnostic and someone who has always been scientifically minded, "Of Pandas, and People" was a rather enlightenting read.

Enlightening to the point, to even have to wonder who in their rationa, "right" mind would believe not only that the Earth is 6,000 years old, but that dinosaurs and humans lived side by side. Unfortunately, they are usually the same right wing, Republican, conservative people of faith who also want you to believe "trickle down economics" works. Stellar ...more
Feb 21, 12 3:15 PM appended by Mr. Z
BTW, you can tack "Hoodwinked", by John Perkins to the list...
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 21, 12 3:15 PM
Now that we know the left advocates choice, I'd like to excercise my choice to opt out of Obamacare, for starters.
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Feb 22, 12 5:30 PM
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How would you "opt out"? What has the affordable healthcare act imposed on you? Please provide a specific example of how it has adversely affected your life.
By witch hazel (224), tatooine on Feb 22, 12 5:38 PM
I'd like the choice to opt out of being mandated to participate in Obamacare. Since it's been established that the left advocates choice, I'd like to have the opportunity to consider choice as an option. Maybe I can't afford the affordable healthcare provided by the act and maybe I can't afford the penalty either.
Feb 22, 12 6:06 PM appended by Mr. Snerdley
whterh it can be afforded or not, either way you slice it government has its hands in our pockets. I would still like to have the advocated choice of not particpating.
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Feb 22, 12 6:06 PM
Captain America won't buy an American car? He should change his name to Captain Korea
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Feb 26, 12 5:38 PM
Tim Bishop must go.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Feb 15, 12 10:06 PM
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Just want to chime in and say we have offered very real and authentic, working solutions to achieve actual Lake Restoration, which my partner John Tucci and I (Lake Savers) have presented for our recent proposal to restore Mill Pond.

As I understand, A trial of Phoslock may or may not be going forward, as a measure of "faith" to pursue yet another aspiration to ultimately stave off maybe another year or two of Phosphorus from being released into the water column from the already known Internal ...more
By moseljack (3), Carmel on Feb 16, 12 6:03 PM
So now you want even more regulation of this site. LOL !!! It is certainly true that no one will be able to game a system that has been solidified by excessive regulation. This is the Progressive mantra: it doesn't matter how little we all have, as long as no one is getting away with something. This is true both in government and on a board such as this one. People are finally catching up to the fact government has been growing too much for the last 4 years and now we are seeing the consequences ...more
By 27dan (2752), Southampton on Feb 17, 12 11:26 PM
Time to rethink over regulation, both in Washington and Mr Zs head. I guess $575 gas this summer will help make my point, as it helps BHO get a bus ticket back to Rezcoville.
By 27dan (2752), Southampton on Feb 17, 12 11:26 PM
$5.75 gas will have NOTHING to do with supply and demand, and has EVERYTHING to do with the manuipulation of the commodities market by J. Arons, via Goldman-Sachs c. 1990.

"I wasn't out to invent the biggest floating craps table of all time; but, that's what happened."
"I think [the risk] is containable. I don't think this is going to be a cataclysm."

~ Louis Rainieri (in reference to the MBS he helped invent)
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 20, 12 4:39 PM
27dan, Regulation hits the little guy and the middle class the hardest. No doubting that at all. The 1%ers buy, legislate and loophole their way around excessive legislation. Its called offshore, outsource, shelter, trusts etc. The middle class and less fortunate don't have access to all the shenanigans. Those of us who try to shed light on this are called racists, heathens and greedy. My suggestion is let them learn on their own.
By Spankerstein (6), Southampton on Feb 18, 12 6:10 AM
'Regulation hits the little guy and the middle class the hardest."

Historically, that's not entirely accurate. The "top dog" CEO compensation in the '50's & '60's was about 35 times the "average" employees compensation. Those were the Glass-Steagall/1936 CEA days. After de-regulation, and the institution of shareholder value maximization valuation of compensation, the ratio is now 300, to 400 times the "average" workers compensation.

The deregulation, fancy investment vehicle ...more
Feb 20, 12 5:28 PM appended by Mr. Z
OH, and if you'd like to blame Fannie, Freddie, or government regulations for the housing bust, you don't have a "CLUE" about the computer program, and system Countrywide (Angelo Mozillo) used to qualify borrowers for Fannie/Freddie (who adopted "CLUE"), which are/were publicly traded companies...
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 20, 12 5:28 PM
Hey wing nuts, enjoy your last few sips of tea because the wave that swept you in is about to sweep you out. Never have I a seen such a collection of talking point zombies as on 27 east. The inability of these right wingers to think on their own is why they are right wingers in the first place.
By witch hazel (224), tatooine on Feb 22, 12 5:41 PM
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Bye Bye Barry!
By They call me (2731), southampton on Feb 22, 12 5:52 PM
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Time to flush our POS POTUS and the rest of the leftists!
By bigfresh (4490), north sea on Feb 22, 12 10:48 PM
Phil, I seem to remeber Rosie Odonnell, on her radio show, predicting the same about Kerry over Bush. I'll bet you one steak dinner that you are incorrect when all is said and done. Resteraunt of your choice.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Feb 23, 12 1:15 PM
Does that mean, you'll accept the bet, Phil?
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Feb 23, 12 3:56 PM
I have seen Chris Mathews on PMSNBC refer to both Dog Whistle comments and Clown car in the last week sound like anyone we know from this board ?
By They call me (2731), southampton on Feb 23, 12 4:59 PM
Still no response to my calling you out on your prediction, huh phil? Apparently you are not as confident as you lead on. Thats okay, I wouldn't be either if I were you.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Feb 24, 12 10:02 AM
I'm really starting to believe that the Republicans want to lose this election. The wacko candidates,the assaults on women's rights and even a nutjob ranting about the Girl Scouts. Personally I think that this economy is in such bad shape that it won't be fixed in four years. I think they agree.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Feb 26, 12 5:55 PM
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By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Feb 23, 12 9:56 AM
27 east should read the post before deleting comments instead of following Phil's lead
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Feb 23, 12 11:15 AM
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"And as I slowly drift to sleep, for a moment dreams are sacred.
I close my eyes and know that there's peace in a world so filled with hatred,
That I wake up each morning and turn on the news,
To find we've so far to go..."

Styx, "Show me the way" (Edge of the Century, 1990)

By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 23, 12 8:16 PM
So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because your neighbors got it made
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...
By joe hampton (3382), south hampton on Feb 24, 12 12:46 AM
America spells competition, join us in our blind ambition
Get yourself a brand new motor car
Someday soon we'll stop to ponder what on Earth's this spell we're under
We made the grade and still we wonder who the hell we are

Good Night Z
Feb 24, 12 12:46 AM appended by joe hampton
PS Don't you think Phil's new avatar is some how very fitting. I can imagine you looking like that face in the moon Phil i think its a keeper ;)
By joe hampton (3382), south hampton on Feb 24, 12 12:46 AM
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By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Feb 24, 12 11:59 AM
Phil, I'm starting to develop a complex here. You respond to everyone on this blog except me. :( If you will not accept the bet that YOU initiated (through your over-confident bragging), than just say so. But to not answer is just hurting my feelings.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Feb 24, 12 12:20 PM
Barack Obama is roughly 152% more “unpatriotic” than Bush.
Barack Obama had added over $4 trillion to the national debt in less than three years, which puts him on track in one term to beat the record that took W two terms to set.

During the 2008 election Barack called W irresponsible and unpatriotic for the spending. Barack has far outpaced the level of spending which by his own definition and application to W, is well outside the realm of patriotic.
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Feb 24, 12 11:00 PM
How exactly does already hight debt get paid off by incurring exorbitant more debt? So called unfunded mandates like NCLB aren't included in the federal budget deficit as they are state requirements. Clinton started the concept of no bid contracts with awards to Halliburton in 1992, when Cheney was not the vice president. Obama has continued the no bid practice as well with awards to Halliburton. Obama has also awarded no bid contracts to Democratic campaign contributors. Every single penny ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Feb 26, 12 12:16 AM
POP QUIZ.
Who has had a relationship with all of these people

A.C.O.R.N,
Rev Wright,
Tony Rezko,
Michelle Obama,
Louis Farrakhan,
William Ayres,
Bernadine Dorhn,
Rashid Khalidi,
Nadhmi Auchi,
Khalid Al Monsour,
Frank Marshall Davis,
Saul Alinsky,
Father Pfleger,
Kwame Kilpatrick,
Rev Meeks,
George Soros,
Raila Odingo,
Abongo ...more Obama,
Black Panthers,
Ludacris,
Franklin Raines,
Jim Johnson,
Ahmad ...more
By They call me (2731), southampton on Feb 24, 12 4:06 PM
While you people are arguing back and forth you are missing the big picture. The 1% rules everything. The 99% are totally fed up .Between Occupy Wall Street (they are all over the Country and campuses,) Anonymous and many others there are many who are willing to stand tall. In the Spring many actions are being planned.Should be interesting.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Feb 24, 12 11:31 PM
I'll see you there Phil!
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Feb 25, 12 10:00 AM
I'll see you there Phil!
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Feb 25, 12 2:39 PM
Just watched John Stossels special on Fox about over regulation in America it was very refreshing. Thank you John.It runs again these weekend I strongly suggest it for everyone!
By They call me (2731), southampton on Feb 25, 12 1:15 AM
This has to be one of the dumber posts that I have ever read. So are you saying that if I disagree with a liberal, like John Stossel was at the time or like you are now, it's OK for me to hit him twice? Not only that, he didn't get up and run away. He got up and got hit again, then he fled as he should have. A cupped slap to the ear, like those were, are actually injury producing strikes. He was confronted by a much larger man who is trained in acts of physical violence, staged or not. The incident ...more
By lucky and aware (44), Speonk on Feb 26, 12 6:54 PM
I've read enough of your two thousand posts to realize that you don't joke much. However, you do try to further your political agenda or attack those that disagree with it. Don't try to spin it now that you got called on it. Any of you right wingers that are enjoying some neophyte arguing with Phil, know this. I think you're too extreme, also.
By lucky and aware (44), Speonk on Feb 26, 12 8:04 PM
John Stossel has been a libertarian as long as he has been a reporter. He was a good consumer reporter on both WCBS and ABC but his doctrinaire libertarianism has caused him to commit more than a few factual errors and to reach tendentious conclusions. He's on Fox News now, the infotainment channel, because he puts on interesting shows.
By highhatsize (4115), East Quogue on Feb 26, 12 9:22 PM
HHS, his early reporting actually led to many regulations, the bane of libertarians. His book, Gimme a Break, more a pamphlet that I read (even as a slow reader) on a flight from Florida, spent half of its time lamenting the fact that his reporting led to so many of the aforementioned regulations. Regardless, I have a request. Please limit your posts to one four bell word and one three bell word. At least that way, sometimes I will only have to look up one.
By lucky and aware (44), Speonk on Feb 26, 12 9:38 PM
to lucky and aware:

That wouldn't be any fun!
By highhatsize (4115), East Quogue on Feb 27, 12 1:08 PM
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Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle.

The Power Brokers are not the middle...
By Mr. Z (11479), North Sea on Feb 25, 12 1:22 AM
well well dim bishlop finally did sum ting?
By uncleronk (136), southold on Feb 26, 12 8:52 PM
The Hampton Classic, Horse Show, Bridgehampton