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Vanessa Streeter, a spokeswoman for Suffolk County Executive Steve Bellone, said Thursday evening that police officers will be deployed at gas stations to enforce the odd-even rationing system that begins at 5 a.m. Friday.
She added that the policy is “very short-term” and that it can be lifted at any time. Ms. Streeter declined to offer an exact time.
Michael Watt, the executive director of the Long Island Gasoline Retailers Association, said he does not think it would be necessary for officers to be called out to gas stations, explaining that the station employees would monitor plate numbers to ensure that costumers were following the odd-even regulations.
“Our people are in the business of serving costumers, not turning away customers, but we hope that Long Islanders cooperate,” he said. “This is a... more
She added that the policy is “very short-term” and that it can be lifted at any time. Ms. Streeter declined to offer an exact time.
Michael Watt, the executive director of the Long Island Gasoline Retailers Association, said he does not think it would be necessary for officers to be called out to gas stations, explaining that the station employees would monitor plate numbers to ensure that costumers were following the odd-even regulations.
“Our people are in the business of serving costumers, not turning away customers, but we hope that Long Islanders cooperate,” he said. “This is a... more
"Honor" -- hmmm, now there is a human trait which appears to be on the wane ...more . . .
It makes no difference if the line is long or short, or if demand is high or low, or even if supply is high or low. Take the psychology out of it and it's just math.
Get Ready for traffic jambs tomorrow Friday 11/9!
9 is an odd number (between 8 and 10).
What is unclear about this?
"Owners of vehicles with license plates ending in an even number may only purchase fuel for that vehicle on even-numbered days, and those ending in odd numbers on odd-numbered days."
Pretty simple stuff for readers whose torpedoes are not programmed to home back in on the launching vessel !!!
Here's some more rope for you . . . .
"No wind blows in favor of a ship without a port of destination."
Words for thought . . .
Have a good weekend.
Everyone says that there is not enough supply reaching the pumps. Guess what, with everyone's tanks being full, the supply is driving all around us, we just can't tap into it (siphon it off).
The odd-even system will reduce topping off IMO.
"Honor" could help also.
In case you missed it, the docks which allow for gasoline to be brought ashore were DESTROYED. ...more They had to use barges to bring supply in, because ships could not dock. Subways were flooded, and power is still out in many places on the island.
LOTP, dude.
If my plate number is opposed to the date, I can't get fuel if there's a gallon of it, or less left in the car's tank, or there will be a hefty fine. But it's OK for someone to put fuel in a can, and dispense it into their tank with using said can in the open air. Seems to me it's more dangerous, and potentially sloppy to dispense fuel from a can, and you know people will use a funnel because the new fangled "gurgle cans" are the biggest pieces of aggravating ...more **** on the planet, and it's a royal pain to pour every drop out of said can. I saw people using paper oil funnels, for cripe's sake.
This policy is a recipe for trouble, IMO.
I haven't read or heard of any incidents related to using cans to dispense fuel
It's really not that difficult to adequately plan when to get gasoline
And there are no laws against using gas cans to pour fuel into your own vehicle and gas cans are used hundreds of thousands of times a day probably throughout the country to fill various vehicles/equipment with a very low incident rate
2. Not everyone has disposable income, and I saw more than one person who was broke, and riding "low E" trying to get gas to after they got paid Friday. If you are broke as ****, it's alot harder to plan.
3. On your average day, you have professionals who fill equipment from cans on a regualr basis. We do not have your average days here, and people who use them once in a blue moon tend to be "all thumbs".
4. ...more You won't read about spillage, or someone smoking in the back seat of a car while their buddies are filling the tank using a paper funnel, and a neckless can if nothing explodes.
Please direct me to the legislation enacted by the Suffolk County Legislature complete with the fine schedule for violations.
Also, gas only explodes when it's ignited in a closed system - you won't hear of any "explosions" from people filling their gas tanks
Static electricity, or smoking can cause a fire which could lead to an explosion. Pardon me for being so direct to an end result.
[expletive deleted] me...
8 Nov 2012 11:51 AM Will The Right's Fever Break? Ctd
When you have divided the world into two categories - freedom or tyranny - and there is no ground whatever between them, you are not only among the least intelligent commentators out there; you also have to be completely fanatical even in the face of popular repudiation.
I watched Fox last night. Every pore on Sean Hannity's face quivered. He seemed close to tears at times. He blamed Obama for a ...more horribly negative campaign. He basically told the majority of Americans who voted for a president Hannity actually seems to believe is the worst in modern times that they will now deserve their enslaved state.
The performance artist, Ann Coulter, just Etch-A-Sketched immediately to 2014. She cannot process the past, and yet she preposterously calls herself a conservative. Her gig is attacking - in the crudest, snarkiest, most cynical fashion - anything she can decide to call "liberal". To ask her to reflect retroactively on a massive realigning loss for her kind of slash-and-burn conservatism was to ask her to do something she has no capacity to do.
O'Reilly was fascinating and immediately explained the result as a function of there being too many black and Latino and young voters who voted for "free stuff." At no point last night did anyone on Fox even mention the four democratic victories for marriage equality across the country. When they referred to the Colorado marijuana legalization, they cut to a teenager bragging that he was going to get stoned tonight. William F Buckley was in favor of legalization. These performers had no argument as such; they just had contempt.
Yes, I watched for Schadenfreude purposes. These charlatans and money-grubbers have turned the broad tradition of Anglo-American conservatism into Southern Fried Fanaticism - and I wanted to see them crackle in their batter. They have replaced empirical doubt with unerring faith in an ideology that had its moment over thirty years ago and is barely relevant to the world we now live in. That faith has been cynically fused with fundamentalist religion to make it virtually impossible for the GOP to accept that women are the majority of voters in this country, that gay couples are equal to straight ones, that 11 million illegal immigrants simply cannot be expected to "self-deport" en masse by a regime of terrifying policing, that war is a last and not a first resort, that the debt we have is primarily a function of two things: George W. Bush's presidency and the economic collapse his term ended with.
This kind of total fanaticism about an ideology that bears no resemblance to Burkean conservatism is often called religious. But the truly religious person is not focused on the Electoral College math, but on living her own life the right way in accordance with the God she worships. She is not obsessed with policing society to keep the "other" at bay - the homosexual, the African-American, the Latino immigrant, the single mother, the young straight dude who is truly baffled by the anachronisms of homophobia and the belief that alcohol is less harmful than marijuana. She knows that living a good life is hard enough without controlling the lives and fates and dignity of others.
But the person who fuses Manichean political warfare with theological certitude cannot, will not, abandon that stance for pragmatic purposes - because there is no greater evil than pragmatism for the fanatic. A political party can adapt and change; a fundamentalist religious party loses its entire authority if it admits error, because its message is based on religious texts that are held to be inerrant. The biggest obstacle in front of today's GOP threfore remains theo-political fundamentalism, and how it can be overcome.
Listen to its tone, hear its anger, and absorb its utter irrelevance to anything but fantasy and delusion and mania:
We conservatives, we do not accept bipartisanship in the pursuit of tyranny. Period. We will not negotiate the terms of our economic and political servitude. Period. We will not abandon our child to a dark and bleak future. We will not accept a fate that is alien to the legacy we inherited from every single future generation in this country. We will not accept social engineering by politicians and bureaucrats who treat us like lab rats, rather than self-sufficient human beings. There are those in this country who choose tyranny over liberty. They do not speak for us, 57 million of us who voted against this yesterday, and they do not get to dictate to us under our Constitution.
We are the alternative. We will resist. We're not going to surrender to this. We will not be passive, we will not be compliant in our demise. We're not good losers, you better believe we're sore losers! A good loser is a loser forever. Now I hear we're called 'purists.' Conservatives are called purists. The very people who keep nominating moderates, now call us purists the way the left calls us purists. Yeah, things like liberty, and property rights, individual sovereignty, and the Constitution, and capitalism. We're purists now. And we have to hear this crap from conservatives, or pseudo-conservatives, Republicans.
You know what, Mr Levin? The "crap" coming your way has only just begun.
"Unhinged by Obama
Steve Chapman
Chicago Tribune
November 11, 2012
On Wednesday morning, sober conservatives pondered an election defeat, swallowed their disappointment and turned their attention to things that truly affect their lives, such as work and family. But there are other conservatives, who were profoundly affected by their collision with reality.
Upon learning of Barack Obama's victory, they envisioned themselves in one of two ...more movies: "Man on a Ledge" or "Braveheart." The first group fell into utter despair. The second chose furious defiance. All agree the apocalypse is at hand. The argument is only about what to do next.
Why the reaction should be so intense is a mystery. We have already had four years of Obama, and the consequences have been endurable, if not enjoyable to all.
Capitalism is managing tolerably well, with the stock market up dramatically since he took office. Inflation is low and unemployment has fallen. The Bush tax cuts have survived. So has the Second Amendment. We remain the premier military power on the planet.
In fact, things have not changed a whole lot. But somehow, the alarmists believe that a second term will usher us into a totalitarian hell.
"It really is liberty versus tyranny," declared Rush Limbaugh in a fit of gloom, pleading to listeners, "I'd love to be talked out of it." He will not be talked out of it by Robert Stacy McCain, who wrote in The American Spectator that "America is doomed beyond all hope of redemption, and any talk of the future fills me with dread and horror."
We can hope they enlist the help of Fox News commentator Charles Krauthammer, who said, "As a psychiatrist, I will offer to write prescriptions for anyone who needs them right now."
Donald Trump took the defeat as grounds not for despondency but — his word — "revolution!" He shouldn't expect an argument from radio talk show host Mark Levin. "We do not accept bipartisanship in the pursuit of tyranny," he thundered. "We will not negotiate the terms of our economic and political servitude."
Levin imagines himself as Mel Gibson's William Wallace, who chose death over submission to a despot, shouting "Freedom!" as he died. But this is not commitment to principle. It is, as Daily Beast blogger Andrew Sullivan marveled, "delusion and mania."
The hysterics' definition of tyranny is being forced to buy health insurance to prevent them from becoming public charges — under terms identical to those prescribed by the man who was supposed to save us from servitude, Mitt Romney.
It's returning to a top marginal tax rate lower than the one that prevailed during most of Ronald Reagan's time in office. It's keeping entitlements Republican presidents preserved and even expanded.
These conservatives cannot bring themselves to admit all the ways in which America has grown freer in our time. Wage and price controls have been relegated to the scrap heap of history. Deregulation has occurred in one sector after another.
Speech, including corporate speech, is less constrained than ever. Radio stations no longer have to provide airtime for different viewpoints. Gambling is legal in almost every state. The Supreme Court recognizes an individual right to keep and bear arms.
Marijuana laws have become more permissive. Women enjoy equality. Racial and ethnic minorities are full participants in our society. Gays have been largely freed of persecution and can get legal protection for their families.
Communism is dead. Socialism is dead. They live on only in the nightmares of conservative fear-mongers.
The problem is that drama queens make no effort to comprehend the liberal mind. Obama and his party are not actually aflame with the dream of turning America into North Korea. They merely have different ideas about how to address problems they regard as a collective responsibility in a practical way.
Democrats are often mistaken about how their remedies would work. But if conservatives treat those proposals as nothing more than ruses to enslave us, they will not be taken seriously.
Some Obama policies may indeed curtail economic freedom at the margin, but not so much as to warrant howling panic, and not in any way that future elections cannot undo. Exaggerating the danger insults our intelligence and discredits serious conservative and libertarian ideas.
Chuck Norris and his wife, Gena, warned Americans that Obama's re-election could mean "1,000 years of darkness." But look! The sun came up today. Don't be surprised if it does again tomorrow."