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DEC Estimates Cost To Close Cupsogue Breach At $6 Million; Work Begins This Week

Publication: The Southampton Press
By Carol Moran   Nov 16, 2012 3:22 PM
Nov 20, 2012 11:31 AM
The dredging of Moriches Bay, part of a $6 million effort to repair a 1,000-foot-wide breach in the barrier island that opened up at Cupsogue Beach County Park during Superstorm Sandy late last month, got under way late last week.

State Department of Environmental Conservation Commissioner Joe Martens, at a press conference held at the park located on the western end of Dune Road on Friday, November 16, and attended by a host of state and local officials, said federal funds would cover 65 percent of the cost of the project, with most of the remaining amount to be paid by the state and a smaller portion by Suffolk County. The project was expedited by the DEC’s Breach Contingency Plan that was developed in the early 1990s after a breach destroyed... more

From the article, and not attirbuted to anyone except, I suppose the author:

"If left alone, water coming through the breach would raise the bay levels, making the bordering communities more prone to flooding."

Please show me the science behind this. Has the level of the bay risen any measurable amount since the breach? Have any homes been regularly flooded on high tide (or heck, even during the recent spring tide) that normally don't?

I wish they would leave it open ...more
By Nature (1417), Hampton Bays on Nov 16, 12 3:50 PM
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It's amazing that when the powers that be want to do something they can care less about the Piping Plover. While the dredge is there, let the residents of Fire Island pay for dredging (as they did a couple of years ago that saved the mainland) all the way to Jones Inlet. Give everyone the right to protect their property.
By The Real World (120), southampton on Nov 16, 12 3:59 PM
You beat me to it Nature! I think Ms Moran will be hard pressed to find any science to back up her assertation. The dredging of the current inlet to provide the sand to fill the breach is more likely to have an adverse effect on the bay than the breach itself. The article states the breach is currently 4' deep in the center at high tide, so at low tide it is 1-2' deep in the center at low tide dependent upon the phase of the moon. Let's leave the breach and fill the inlet! It is dangerous to navigate ...more
By FoReel (3), Hampton Bays on Nov 16, 12 4:19 PM
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Keep printing money and going into debt to "fix" what nature would fix in time.

Such impatience is expensive, and immature IMO.

The benefit of dredging the existing inlet saves this plan from the label of "sheer folly."

I guess some deep pockets whispered in someone's ears, after all the Town election is this coming Fall.
By PBR (2351), Southampton on Nov 16, 12 4:32 PM
Maybe it would be less expensive to put a bridge across it and let the water

continue come into the bay?
By afj (6), East Quogue on Nov 16, 12 4:57 PM
It's amazing after spending tens of millions of dollars on sand and dredging the experts think Westhampton Dunes is a success. Maybe it's time to leave these breaches alone maybe nature is telling us we need to circulate the pollution out of the bay. When does this craziness end of fighting mother nature? It is selfishness of Westhampton Dunes homeowners. Why did the goverment ever settle with the homeowners? Disgusting
By chief1 (646), southampton on Nov 16, 12 5:22 PM
Nature - good call!

This is dumb. it's not as if you are connecting houses or repairing roads. You are essentially reconnecting spits of sand. The 'science' behind this beguiles me. I would think circulating the water in to the bay is 'good" and what sea life would be 'affected'? It's not like a Russian tanker dropped zebra mussels in the Great Lakes. Whatever is there certainly could swim around the inlet before this happened.
By Hambone (304), New York on Nov 16, 12 5:59 PM
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maybe this will help to flush out Quantuck, and Monibogue
By clamdigger (38), Quogue on Nov 16, 12 8:15 PM
correct me if I'm wrong but isn't cupsogue park in Brookhaven Town? Either the Brookhaven board members are not concerned that this is an emergency or they were not invited to the meeting in their own Town. Fill in a sand dune but wait to dredge an inlet that serves a multi million dollar fishing fleet. The ocean always wins
By clammer (14), hampton bays on Nov 16, 12 11:58 PM
Yes, you are one of the few people who realize it's within the Town of Brookhaven and not part of Westhampton Dunes or Westhampton. Why ATH was there... I don't know. Maybe to show off that fancy jacket of hers.

The County loves to act as though the beach is in Southampton because it makes it "sexy". Who wants to go to a beach in Brookhaven Town when they can go to a beach in "Westhampton".

Regardless, it's a COUNTY owned beach, so the Town (brookhaven or Southampton) shouldn't ...more
By Nature (1417), Hampton Bays on Nov 17, 12 12:31 AM
Hmm, by any chance is this an election year for the Southampton Town Supervisor?
By PBR (2351), Southampton on Nov 17, 12 6:53 AM
Cuomo just jumped on the bandwagon. Oh wait, is he up for reelection in 2014, and possibly considering a run for the Presidency?

Rumors are that Janet Yellen may replace Bernanke as Fed Chair, and that she favors MORE QUANTITATIVE EASING.

Merrily we roll along, further into debt we go!

Folks, this growing indebtedness and deficit spending is probably not going to end as a pretty picture!
By PBR (2351), Southampton on Nov 17, 12 11:28 AM
I'm for wader's rights and filling it in for the beach-going public violates my basic right to wade through the water at low tide. Additionally, boater's rights where we dredge things to deeper also violates my rights to water that is shallow enough for me to wade through.
By Hambone (304), New York on Nov 17, 12 1:19 PM
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