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UPDATE: Winds, Waves Biggest Impact of Tuesday Noreaster

Even though the blizzard did not happen on the East End coastal flood and wind advisories remain in effect for Tuesday.   DANA SHAW
Mar 16, 2017 10:16 AM

UPDATE: Tuesday, 9 p.m.

Gale force winds and full moon tides washed out Gerard Drive in East Hampton and Dune Road in Hampton Bays during Tuesday afternoon's high tide as the strong winds associated with the day's severe noreaster proved to be the lone impact locally.

Scattered downed trees and utility poles that fell across roadways and washouts of scattered low-lying roadways ended up as the only speed bumps to normal activity on Tuesday, despite widespread closures of schools and municipal buildings on Tuesday as the storm approached and forecasters warned that up to two feet of snow could be expected. The forecasts proved to be accurate for large swaths of western New York and Pennsylvania but other than a brief period of sleet early Tuesday, the South Fork saw only rainfall, torrential at times.

East Hampton Main Street was closed for over an hour in the afternoon after one of the village's prized English elm trees went down across Main Street amid gusts that topped 58 miles per hour in Montauk about noon on Tuesday.

Gerard Drive was overwashed by waters from Gardiners Bay in its lowest lying stretch, cutting off residents of its eastern reaches. The washout was even worse than during a similarly severe noreaster last winter. When the tide receded on Tuesday it left a thick layer of sand and rocks where pavement had once been and evidence that the roadway itself had crumbled in the waves.



UPDATE: Tuesday, 10:40 a.m.

The State of Emergency for Southampton Town has been lifted as of 10 a.m. on Tuesday as the storm continues to move further west.

Southampton Town Hall will once again reopen on Wednesday morning.

UPDATE: Tuesday, 9:50 a.m.

The Winter Storm Warning for southeastern Suffolk County has been canceled by the National Weather Service in Upton. Coastal flood advisories and wind advisories, however, remain in effect for the rest of the day Tuesday.

As of Tuesday morning, the snow in the area has already turned from sleet to rain, though more sleet and between 2 to 3 inches of snow is possible later this evening and tonight, according to representatives from the NWS. The wind advisory says there could be wind gusts up to 50 mph this afternoon, potentially causing downed power lines and trees and hazardous conditions.

UPDATE: Monday, 3:20 p.m.

Southampton Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman has declared a state of emergency for Tuesday and has closed all town facilities. East Hampton Town facilities will also be closed and a Town Board work session scheduled for tomorrow has been canceled.

Supervisor Schneiderman's office cited high winds, coastal flooding, and heavy snow in the announcement and asked that all residents stay off the roads unless absolutely necessary during the brunt of the storm.

At the same time, Southampton Village, East Hampton Village, and Westhampton Beach Village have all announced that their municipal buildings will be closed Tuesday.

A National Weather Service Winter Storm Warning remains in effect for the area on Tuesday, with between 8 to 12 inches of snow predicted. The snow will likely turn to rain early to mid-afternoon.

UPDATE: Monday, 10:10 a.m.

National Weather Service officials are also predicting coastal flooding throughout the day on Tuesday.

A Coastal Flood Advisory was issued early Monday morning and will remain in effect from 11 a.m. through 4 p.m. on Tuesday. The minor to moderate flooding is expected along all eastern bays and along the coastline, according to the NWS, with tides expected to be between 2.5 to 3.5 feet above normal levels, and water expected to rise one to two feet on some streets.

At the same time, the high surf is expected to range from 6 to 10 feet.

UPDATE: Monday, 9:30 a.m.

The Blizzard warning has been downgraded to a Winter Storm Warning for southeastern Suffolk County, with officials now predicting between 8 to 14 inches of snow for Southampton and East Hampton towns.

According to a National Weather Service update at 4:18 a.m. on Monday, the storm watch will remain in effect from midnight tonight through midnight Tuesday night. Heavy snow and strong winds are still expected for the area.

While there is no longer a blizzard warning in effect, blizzard like conditions can still occur, with winds to average between 30 to 40 mph and gusts as high as 60 mph. The snow is also expected to change over to sleet and rain late Tuesday morning, leading to icy conditions. Visibility will be a quarter mile or less.

ORIGINAL STORY

The National Weather Service has issued a Blizzard Watch, warning that between 12 and 18 inches of snow could fall between Monday night and Tuesday night.

Issued at 3:38 p.m. Saturday for all of Long Island, New York City and southern Connecticut, the watch also states that 20- to 30-mph winds from the northeast, with gusts of up to 50 mph, can be expected. It also warns that the storm could make travel hazardous and result in possible power outages.

The snow is expected to begin around 11 p.m. Monday and end late Tuesday night, according to the National Weather Service.

Additionally, at 3:24 p.m. Saturday, the service issue a Gale Warning for the waters between Moriches Inlet and Montauk Point that will remain in effect until 1 a.m. Sunday. It notes that 20- to 30-knot winds, with gusts of up to 50 knots, are expected during that time, and that seas could run between 5 and 8 feet. The rough conditions are expected to continue through Sunday.

“It is highly recommended that mariners without the proper experience seek safe harbor prior to the onset of gale conditions,” the warning reads.

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The recent update to the snow forecast map from NWS Upton, showing 17" for most of LI, is mostly for shock value IMO, as their written text update acknowledges that The South Fork could luck out and get quite a bit of rain or mixed precipitation, depending on the storm track due to the jet stream's polar vortex. NWS Boston is calling for only 5" for Block Island and 3" for Nantucket, for instance. The prediction models should reach a better consensus tomorrow afternoon.

Stay tuned . . ...more
By PBR (4803), Southampton on Mar 11, 17 5:33 PM
Damn sure hope you're right...
By Michael Jacobs (9), Westhampton Beach on Mar 11, 17 8:20 PM
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He will be as right as any other meteorologist. It is a crap shoot.
By dnice (1973), Hampton Bays on Mar 12, 17 12:14 AM
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Im with PBR on this one....
By toes in the water (530), southampton on Mar 12, 17 9:00 AM
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More thundersnow! I had never experienced it until the last blizzard.
Absolutely awesome!

(there will be up to 6'4" of snow and winds of up to 137 MPH. Guaranteed.)
By loading... (509), quiogue on Mar 12, 17 9:58 AM
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By SlimeAlive (585), Southampton on Mar 12, 17 10:00 AM
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they are some real winners
By joe hampton (2867), The Hamptons on Mar 12, 17 10:52 AM
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Safeguard your mailboxes.
By Mouthampton (340), Southampton on Mar 12, 17 3:56 PM
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Good luck with that Mouth, all some of them seem to care about is there overtime pay... They drive down small streets way to fast and reckless shooting snow up on ever thing, they put down way to much salt the combination of these practices ruins property, trees and cars.

But hey its a town / union job what do you expect.
By 27dan (2077), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 12, 17 7:09 PM
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The various NWS offices incl. DC/Baltimore, Albany, Upton, and Boston seem to be lessening the max snow forecast, and shifting it north, a bit, with the worst to hit in a line from the Poconos through Hartford to north of Boston. One local graphical forecast for BH suggests some rain and wintry mix might hit The East End midday on Tuesday, thereby lessening the overall snowfall out here.

Forecast loops for the jet stream do predict a slight westward blip coinciding with the wintry mix scenario ...more
By PBR (4803), Southampton on Mar 12, 17 9:11 PM
PBR I trust your research and dedication to weather. What is your prediction of total snowfall?
By GoldenBoy (320), EastEnd on Mar 12, 17 10:24 PM
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The center of the low is now forecast to track close to Montauk, west of earlier predictions, so the South Fork east of The Canal could see more mixed precip at times, with snow totals under 12" IMO, perhaps even as low as 6" to 8" near Montauk.

The regions north and west of us, however, are probably going get whacked, per the note above, with 18-24" possible in spots, plus drifting.

Stay safe!
By PBR (4803), Southampton on Mar 13, 17 6:04 AM
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Carnac the Magnificent says : Six Wet Inches.
By pw herman (661), southampton on Mar 13, 17 8:07 AM
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Wow, Its like watching the weathermen on TV saying goodbye to a dear departed relative this morning, finally having to admit what PBR has been saying, the storm is going to move through faster and not DUMP 2 feet of white filth on us. Looks like a lot of hype for the pre plow justification and Home depot sales from this point on...

Get over It guys, Trump Is the President and Spring Is here!
By joe hampton (2867), The Hamptons on Mar 13, 17 9:18 AM
Springtime for Drumpf in Germany...:)
By Toma Noku (567), Southampton on Mar 13, 17 2:48 PM
Make Springtime Great Again !
By 27dan (2077), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 13, 17 6:18 PM
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
By Mr. Z (9303), North Sea on Mar 13, 17 9:35 PM
Mr. Z ? Just what on Earth are you talking about now ?
By Undocumented Democrat (1485), southampton on Mar 13, 17 10:23 PM
The poor guy never got over Obama being re-elected.

Leave it to a Trumpeteer to turn a snow storm political.
By Mr. Z (9303), North Sea on Mar 13, 17 10:27 PM
Just tired of turning on the TV and hearing about how the sky is falling ... things seem preety good right now.

Breath.... Stay calm and enjoy the Summer of 2017
By joe hampton (2867), The Hamptons on Mar 14, 17 8:48 AM
New Trump tweet : socialism will be allowed to survive the new administration, it just won't ever flourish again. Sounds reasonable.
Good storms tend to bring us closer together and make us stronger.
By pw herman (661), southampton on Mar 14, 17 9:46 AM
Channel 12 now saying 3-6" east of the canal
By GoldenBoy (320), EastEnd on Mar 13, 17 7:03 PM
How will I get my beach and 4wd stickers???
By knitter (838), Southampton on Mar 13, 17 8:14 PM
More hyped up crap for the media. I didnt know it snowed at 38 degreed.
By chief1 (2312), southampton on Mar 13, 17 8:30 PM
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only In bill korbels backyard
By Erin 27 E (849), hampton bays on Mar 13, 17 9:01 PM
Oh dear SNOW-NAMI 2017..... It's gonna kill us all 2" to 5" inches and then some rain?

Everyone stay inside during the state of emergency so the plows can get through and tear up the street, lol

What a hyped up joke and they are still trying to talk it up. I would have some respect for them if they just admited they hyped this thing wayyy to much. We went from 24" plus to 18"-24" to 18" plus to 12" to 18" to 6" to 12" to 3" and rain. Too funny !
Mar 13, 17 10:21 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
CNN is already blaming the Russians for interfering with the weather
By Undocumented Democrat (1485), southampton on Mar 13, 17 10:21 PM
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LOL LOL watch out for that rain today !
By toes in the water (530), southampton on Mar 14, 17 7:25 AM
This isn't even heavy rain
By even flow (450), East Hampton on Mar 14, 17 7:43 AM
The projected "westward blip" in the jet stream mentioned yesterday was actually even more pronounced overnight, resulting in the low tracking further west. Thus the rain and mix on the East End so far.

We have lucked out up to now.

HOWEVER -- to our west and north the Liquid Equivalent Precipitation [LEP] totals of 2-3" equate to about 30" of possible snow. Wait to see the snowfall totals from the Poconos, Catskills, CT and Massachusetts, and be glad we live on the ocean which ...more
By PBR (4803), Southampton on Mar 14, 17 8:06 AM
Thank god for all of us PBR did a better job than the Weather Channel... Our East end homes have sustained enough damage for one winter. Enjoy the day off
By joe hampton (2867), The Hamptons on Mar 14, 17 8:42 AM
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Slow News Week = Weather Pandemonium
By Mouthampton (340), Southampton on Mar 14, 17 8:45 AM
Slow news is good news
Mar 14, 17 8:51 AM appended by 27dan
NOW SEND THOSE TOWN WORKERS HOME !
By 27dan (2077), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 14, 17 8:51 AM
Most of the town workers never got out of bed today - Town Hall was closed, as were the schools, many stores, restaurants and whatever else relies on weather forecasts. What's the total lost revenue there?

Why the rush to call everything off yesterday? We don't communicate by smoke signal any more. Developing contingencies and making a final decision by daybreak would have saved billions.

By VOS (964), WHB on Mar 14, 17 3:05 PM
The strong easterly winds are causing severe high tides in western Peconic Bay at the Indian Island bridge tide station -- 3' above normal and rising. Areas of Flanders and the Peconic River near Riverhead will probably see some flooding.

Ditto for Lazy Point in EH's Gardiners Bay, The Battery in NYC, King's Point, Bridgeport, and other western LI Sound harbors. With east winds expected to continue until early tomorrow morning, the flooding could get worse overnight IMO.

By PBR (4803), Southampton on Mar 14, 17 11:50 AM
the media is trying to stay relevant by naming storms, causing mayhem over nothing. can you imagine your grandfather running around scared because it might snow? how pathetic our country has become in such a short period of time. the media needs to reign themselves in . too many journalistic outlets and not enough intelligence to go around.

"let's hope it's not going to be as bad as andrew cuomo is predicting. usually it isn't," he said monday. president trump calls it correctly again.... ...more
By Erin 27 E (849), hampton bays on Mar 14, 17 1:42 PM
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Good old-fashioned capitalism depends on fear and anxiety, so of course weather gets hyped. Ever see your grocery, hardware, big box stores more crowded? Weather is a racket. You know, just like war.
By June Bug (1319), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 14, 17 2:22 PM
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Capitalism does not depend on fear or anxiety. That is utterly ridiculous. Like your tortured logic.
By SlimeAlive (585), Southampton on Mar 14, 17 2:47 PM
What do you think sells firearms? And just now, restrictions lifted on silencers. So sorry you're impervious to facts and/or insight.
By June Bug (1319), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 14, 17 2:59 PM
Like I said....totally ridiculous. Like your tortured logic.

Thank you for the assist.
By SlimeAlive (585), Southampton on Mar 14, 17 3:11 PM
Juney B, they are called suppressors, not silencers. It usually helps to know a little about what you are afraid of.
By dnice (1973), Hampton Bays on Mar 14, 17 9:02 PM
Liberalism causes firearm sales to increase JuneZ.
By bigfresh (2901), north sea on Mar 14, 17 4:34 PM
Rachel Maddox was set up! She helped Trump by exposing more liberal lies. Trump paid more taxes in 2005 than all of the lefts candidates combined. Suckers
By even flow (450), East Hampton on Mar 15, 17 6:54 AM
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Is that so, dnice? Perhaps you should know what you're talking about before you post. Ever hear of a synonym, or know what the legal definition is of a device to muffle the sound of gunshot?


Silencer Vs Suppressor The simple answer is both words can be used interchangeably - meaning the terms Silencer and Suppressor refer to the exact same thing. When Hiram Percy Maxim invented the suppressor, he referred to it as the 'Maxim Silencer' in his patent and marketing materials. ...more
By June Bug (1319), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 15, 17 1:24 PM
Juney B, despite common misconceptions, suppressors are not silent.

BTW, you should probably use quotes when you cut and paste from an article from Silencer Shop.
By dnice (1973), Hampton Bays on Mar 15, 17 6:19 PM
Mea culpa on the quotation marks.
By June Bug (1319), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 16, 17 12:54 PM
How did the federal government get the blizzard so wrong with all that science?
By SlimeAlive (585), Southampton on Mar 16, 17 6:36 AM
How did the federal government get the blizzard so wrong with all that science?
By SlimeAlive (585), Southampton on Mar 16, 17 6:36 AM
They did not get it wrong, but were off a little in the track the blizzard took. 125 miles to our northwest the snow totals were in the range of 24" to 30" which could just as easily been US if the storm had tracked eastward instead of westward as it came north.

Uncertainty is a fact of life, with which some are not comfortable.

Predictable weather is a fool's game.
By PBR (4803), Southampton on Mar 16, 17 7:27 AM
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They got it so wrong that they knew days before that the storm track had moved. Fed decided against changing the forecast for fear it would confuse people. Don't let this mutual admiration society of local lug heads go to your local lug head
By SlimeAlive (585), Southampton on Mar 22, 17 5:11 AM