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Mar 28, 2017 1:37 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Zeldin Blames Health Care Reform Failure On Republicans Who Put Politics Over Policy

Southampton Hospital President and CEO Robert S. Chaloner in the waiting room of Southampton hospital.  DANA SHAW
Mar 28, 2017 1:37 PM

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin this week lamented the failure of the House of Representatives to pass the American Health Care Act, the Republican revamping of the current health care law known commonly as Obamacare, and laid the blame squarely at the feet of far-right members of the party who had not supported it.

Mr. Zeldin, who had been a firm supporter of the much-maligned bill, said that the bill was hamstrung by the “Freedom Caucus” faction of the Republican Party who would not support it, largely because they thought it did not go far enough in repealing the Affordable Care Act adopted by Democrats and President Barack Obama.

“When one party takes control of the House, Senate and the White House, there’s an important need for its members to make the transition from being an opposition party to a governing party,” Mr. Zeldin said in an interview this week. “For members that come from some of the reddest districts in the county, they have an ability to do whatever their local conservative radio show tells them to do. But when you’re governing and your party is in control, you have to be willing to compromise.”

The AHCA would have repealed two of the signature policies of Obamacare: the mandates compelling all Americans or their employers to purchase health insurance coverage and the billions in government funding that helped expand subsidized coverage to those who could not afford coverage. The law left in place several aspects of the ACA that were seen as widely popular with the public, like preventing insurance companies from refusing coverage to patients with pre-existing conditions.

The bill was criticized by many analysts and health professionals as likely to mean that millions would no longer be covered by insurance and that poor and elderly Americans would be left with greater financial burdens while wealthy individuals and large corporations were given avenues to robust tax breaks.

During the debate, many insurance industry professionals and hospital administrators saw the AHCA as a financially threatening burden on them because it would have increased the number of uninsured people who visit hospitals seeking care but cannot pay for it.

“We have to treat first and ask questions later,” Southampton Hospital CEO Robert Chaloner said of the bill just before it was pulled. “Since the ACA was adopted the number of uninsured people we see went down. If you don’t require people to have insurance … they go back to the uninsured ranks and they end up back in our ER. Or they wait on getting treatment when, from a public health perspective, they should be getting health care earlier and getting to doctors—but they don’t do that if they don’t have insurance and then they come to us when it gets worse.”

No Democrats supported the bill and several moderate Republicans also said they were not in favor. But Mr. Zeldin sees the bill’s ultimate failure as lying at the feet of those in the party who opposed it purely for political reasons.

“The sound-bite messaging on the right was that the bill needed to go further but a lot of what was in the bill was from conservative positions going back a decade,” Mr. Zeldin said. “We’ve got groups on the left and on the right that argue against good bills for the wrong reasons … using information that oftentimes is just fictitious. We can play along with scare tactics or we can make decisions based on the actual text of the bill. Was the AHCA perfect? I could find ways to improve it myself. But my standard wasn’t to get it perfect for one of 535 members of Congress, because it just doesn’t work like that.”

Two of the nine Republican representatives in the New York delegation—Staten Island Representative Dan Donovan and Syracuse Representative John Katko— opposed the bill.

Mr. Zeldin said he is hopeful, though not holding his breath, that the health care bill may be resurrected and brought to a vote. He said that over the weekend there were signs that some members of the party who had said they were going to vote “no” on the AHCA had expressed a change of heart or willingness to reconsider. But, he acknowledged, the bill’s failure had also been followed by a “seismic shift” among the party leadership to move on and focus on reforming federal tax codes, another Republican hot-button issue.

He noted that the House did pass three other health care-related bills last week that had been touted as important parallels to the AHCA: one that allows insurance plans to be sold across state lines, one that allows pooling of policies, and another related to malpractice reform. Each was designed to address issues that critics have said have kept health care costs, and those for insurance, inflated, as well as stifling innovation in the insurance industry. The bills will be a boon to Americans, Mr. Zeldin said, even as Obamacare continues to be the underlying rule.

Whether the AHCA or another health care reform bill finds its way to the floor or not, Mr. Zeldin said the lesson of the last few weeks for House Republicans needs to be that they have to be willing to compromise with those in their own party and across the aisle if they want to be effective.

“Going forward, as we deal with tax reform and infrastructure, it’s going to be essential that anyone who has a belief in a certain direction that they see as critical, that they communicate it early and often and then be willing to find something to agree to,” the second-term representative said. “There was a lot of asking for something with [the AHCA] and then asking for something more if they got it. You can’t have that. There’s a lot to learn from this entire process.”

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Best thing that could have happened with that POS "ACHA" happened, and that Zeldin lamenting the fact that it and his master failed is disgusting. That he supported repealing and replacing the ACA can only be interpreted as not only as a kiss-up to his master trump, but to support the elimination of ANY progress that can be attributed to President Obama. And the evil of it only exacerbated by the fact that the ACHA would have made life worse for all except for the rich who would benefit BIGLY. ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 28, 17 3:38 PM
"the fact that the ACHA would have made life worse for all except for the rich who would benefit BIGLY"

Juney B, how do you claim it to be fact when it never even voted on? Maybe you are just exaggerating that claim?
By dnice (1904), Hampton Bays on Mar 28, 17 5:39 PM
Why don't you use your Google before you question?
$600Billion was going to be funneled upward to the richest Americans.
A quick cut and paste from www.vox.com. You'll find same info on NYTimes sites, Forbes, etc.
Most analysis of the American Health Care Act, the new House Republican plan for repealing and replacing Obamacare, has focused on the fact that it will take away health insurance from millions of Americans, including, eventually, millions of poor, elderly, and disabled Americans ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 28, 17 6:20 PM
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You claimed it to be fact. Does google claim to be fact?
By dnice (1904), Hampton Bays on Mar 28, 17 7:37 PM
1st protected
2nd protected
Illegal felons being deported,bids being excepted on wall
Incoming pro life SCOTUS
Hillary exposed and convicted for what she was in court of public opinion
obamacare repel and replace still on the way
GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
All the rest will be icing on the cake the next 8 years

Mr Trump, feel free to put the Icing on thick if you like :)

We have the cake and the cake is good!
By 27dan (1930), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 28, 17 6:44 PM
At least some one is thinking, not voting down party lines all the time.
By knitter (651), Southampton on Mar 28, 17 8:37 PM
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You mean his comment about "compromise"? Hahaha! He's spouting the Republican Party line, word for word.
By ValGal03 (37), Montauk on Mar 30, 17 2:34 PM
It didn't gain support because it was garbage and a massive handout to corporate America.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Mar 28, 17 8:44 PM
Just like the ACA!
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Mar 29, 17 6:06 AM
Listen to what the CEO of Southampton Hospital has to say: "We have to treat first and ask questions later,” Southampton Hospital CEO Robert Chaloner said of the bill just before it was pulled. “Since the ACA was adopted the number of uninsured people we see went down. If you don’t require people to have insurance … they go back to the uninsured ranks and they end up back in our ER. Or they wait on getting treatment when, from a public health perspective, they should be getting ...more
By ValGal03 (37), Montauk on Mar 30, 17 2:37 PM
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With all due respect to Mr Chaloner who is a great guy and has done a great job straightening the hospital out he is wrong. "We have to treat first and ask questions later"??? That is an insane statement and hopefully I don't need to explain to you why it is.
I agree with his secound statement but that is an easy fix. NO ONE should be allowed to use the ER for a non life threatening situation. You can't with insurance why should you without.
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Mar 31, 17 8:12 AM
Bring back the Hill-Burton Act.
By pw herman (437), southampton on Mar 31, 17 8:21 AM
Yeah, you do need to explain that. However, it's seems you believe health care is a privilege for those who can afford it, not something which everyone should have a right to at an affordable cost. BTW, there's this thing called the "Hippocratic Oath".

"I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure."
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 2, 17 8:23 AM
please point out where I say health care is a privilege for those who can not afford it. Everyone in this country is guaranteed coverage whether they have insurance or not. The problem comes down to the cost of care. Cost of care drives the cost of coverage. Do you think treating first and asking questions later is cost effective? Do you think doctors and hospitals operate on a for profit basis or treat people for free. Don't be so naive. Whether we like it or not it's all about the almighty dollar.
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Apr 2, 17 1:20 PM
Z just curious when you go to buy a car do you ask how much it costs or do you just pay for it? Do you buy the car with all the extras without even asking for it or looking at the cost? When you go out to eat do you think look at the menu or just order?
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Apr 2, 17 1:27 PM
razza5350. Another Mensa member making assertions out of his derriere. Mr. Chaloner made an "insane statement"? Let the following explain to you why you are wrong:


Can hospitals turn away patients?



The Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act (EMTLA)
Public and private hospitals alike are prohibited by law from denying a patient care in an emergency. The Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act (EMTLA) passed by Congress in 1986 explicitly forbids the denial ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 3, 17 7:52 PM
Obviously you did not pass remidial reading. I clearly said that no one is denied coverage in this country whether you have insurance or not and I agree that IF it's a true medical emergency than one should be covered. In my opinion NO ONE should be able to use the emergency room for anything other than a true emergency. The shoot first and ask questions later idea is ridiculous and you have no clue what you are talking about.
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Apr 3, 17 10:38 PM
As opposed to free health care for those who are too lazy to work. Can we all agree on one point:? Anyone who wants welfare, food stamps, or free health insurance must take a simple blood test: are you on opiates, coke, crack or the like? If so, we can't afford to allow taxpayers to feed your addiction. Do we all agree on that? Hello? Mr. Z, I can't hear you . . .
As for June Bug. Yes, your idols Tim Bishop and Brad Bender talked the talk. You poor fool . . . you never did get the old adage. ...more
By fire11 (251), east hampton on Mar 28, 17 10:41 PM
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Yeah. Obviously not, we deal in keystrokes here. In case you missed it, the whole drug testing angle went down in flames in at least seven states. Turns out it was a colossal waste of taxpayer funds in which less than one hundreth of 1% of participants tested positive for any type of illicit substance.

Ignorance and infantilism, as we've come to expect.

How's that USAToday investigation of Trump's ties to old Soviet Bloc organized crime going?
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Mar 28, 17 10:54 PM
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Come on Mr. Z - you expect us to believe that all these poor people receiving government assistance AREN'T drug addicts? Get real. We know what these lazy drug abusers spend OUR hard-earned money on!

Ridiculous.
By SH_Res (333), Southampton on Mar 29, 17 8:50 AM
"less than one hundreth (sic) of 1% of participants tested positive for any type of illicit substance.

Ignorance and infantilism, as we've come to expect."

Ignorance is believing only 1 out of 10,000 people on Social Services tested positive for any type of illicit substance. Stop by the Riverhead Center when the coffee truck shows up for your proof.
By loading... (495), quiogue on Mar 29, 17 1:54 PM
Statistics show it to be a colossal fail, possibly a violation of the 4th Amendment, and that the cost of testing does not outweigh any "savings" on denial of benefit disbursement.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Mar 29, 17 11:39 PM
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Zeldin on his knees to his master Trump, he will never have an original thought of his own. Puppet strings all around him. Besides that a gutless coward, thought he was going to be attacked by Lily Pulitzers.
By Mets fan (610), Southampton on Mar 29, 17 5:54 AM
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Not to worry, he will be guided by Judge Jeanine on what to do. This administration is a daily national embarrassment.
By Mets fan (610), Southampton on Mar 29, 17 5:57 AM
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Healthcare reform didn't fail. It's not over. The hospital's greedy CEO is against it because it's going to help patients instead of hospitals and insurance companies
By SlimeAlive (410), Southampton on Mar 29, 17 7:01 AM
How about this, get the government the hell out of the health insurance business, repeal Obamacare and all the onerous regulations connected to it and let the free market work.
By bigfresh (2676), north sea on Mar 29, 17 7:06 AM
The free market has an administered fifty cent bag of saline costing a patient/insurance provider $700.

Do you know what a zealot is?
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 2, 17 8:28 AM
These latest post speaks volumes about this smug man known as HIGHHATSIZE....

"Instead of endlessly bitching about how unfair it is for you to have to spend more money for health insurance than other, “non-marital” businesses, you might consider getting on board graciously for the good of your country and of your 20 million newly insured countrymen"

How dare you ! Once again you try and paint a picture that we are "bitching" about money, when what we are "bitching" ...more
By Erin 27 E (764), hampton bays on Mar 29, 17 10:04 AM
So, you believe health care is a privilege.

You could just say that without the rant.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 2, 17 8:38 AM
I wouldn't call it a privilege but it is not a right either.
By dnice (1904), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 3:45 PM
So if it is not a right, why then won't any public or non-profit hospital ER turn you away?
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 4, 17 4:06 PM
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Why June, that is an intelligent, rational, and well thought out reasoned argument. It's also the truth.

Be prepared to have it ignored, denied, and dismissed by those who fail to think and just believe what they've been fed.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 5, 17 11:03 PM
One day your grand kids or great grand kids will ask you why did you let Donald Trump have free rein in burning fossil fuels. You will say the coal miners needed jobs that's why. But you had computers and Google. Why didn't you research polar ice melt, global warming, and climate change. Why didn't you give them jobs building wind turbines, solar panels, or retrain them to fix robots on the manufacturing line. The turbines and panels might last hundreds of years with sustainable energy. Many of ...more
By Mets fan (610), Southampton on Mar 29, 17 4:30 PM
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Until the welfare program is decoupled from the insurance market, nothing will work. Otherwise, it’s like forcing grocery stores to pay for everyone to have a house. A carton of milk would suddenly cost $10,000.

by ANN COULTER

Obamacare is uniquely awful because the free stuff isn’t paid for through income taxes: It’s paid for through MY health insurance premiums. This is unfortunate because I wanted to buy health insurance.

Perhaps you’re not aware ...more
Mar 29, 17 7:52 PM appended by 27dan
Trump-I hope you are listening. Free markets are the solution. "Government is not the solution, government is the problem."-Ronald Reagan...
By 27dan (1930), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 29, 17 7:52 PM
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Zeldin can blame whoever he wants to but the finger should be pointed at the people who voted for Trump. This is all on their hands.
By johnj (583), Westhampton on Mar 30, 17 9:06 AM
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Boy, have you got that right, johnj! The Honorable Lee is playing the blame game like everyone else on the GOP side. Fact is, Mr. Zeldin probably appreciates how lucky he is that there wasn't a House vote on Trumpcare. The Senate would have killed it anyway, but a vote in the House would have formally memorialized Zeldin's support for this family-killing measure.

No worries, however. We have Lee Zeldin on record as repeatedly and enthusiastically backing Trumpcare, and we will remind ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Mar 30, 17 10:05 AM
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Myself and scores more called his office repeatedly to vote NO. This guy's got to get that he represents people and what they want. I daresay the call for a NO vote way outdid any other.

It ain't about him and he should step aside if he wants to put his "own" agenda ahead of his constituents.
By kaki (1), Sag Harbor on Mar 30, 17 1:28 PM
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The Freedom Caucus did exactly what they should have.
Lyin' Rino-Ryan should have been booted long ago..

Thursday on CNN’s “The Lead,” Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said even after Speaker of the House Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) failed effort to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act we still will repeal of Obamacare.”

Paul said, “I think the Freedom Caucus is doing what is best for America. They’re very principled and honorable men. obamacare ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1387), southampton on Mar 30, 17 6:04 PM
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By Undocumented Democrat (1387), southampton on Mar 30, 17 6:06 PM
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Vice President Mike Pence cast the tie-breaking vote in the Senate Thursday to advance legislation that would overturn a last-minute Obama administration rule forcing states to provide Title X family planning grants to Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers.

MAGA
By They call me (1976), southampton on Mar 30, 17 6:21 PM
Abortion has been legal for the past 44 years. Refusing to provide funds for non-abortion related services to an organization that helps millions of women and men in this country just because they also provide a legal service that you don't like is downright wrong.

In part because of PP's family planning services, abortion rates are the lowest they've been in almost 50 years. Don't you WANT fewer abortions? If so, then continuing to fund PP's other family planning services would help...
By SH_Res (333), Southampton on Apr 1, 17 7:57 AM
Anybody that supported that wretched GOP health care bill that was all about a tax break for the mega-rich at the expense of the elderly and the general public that are struggling financially. Eliminate maternity care, prescriptions, well-care visits, mammograms..,
Zeldin was all-in.
By Non-Political (29), Hampton Bays on Mar 30, 17 10:17 PM
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"Immunity means you probably committed a crime” — Michael Flynn (Sept. 24, 2016)


”And if you’re not guilty of a crime, what do you need immunity for, right?" — Donald Trump (Sept. 27, 2016)


“Mike Flynn should ask for immunity ... " - Donald Trump (March 31, 2017)
---------------------------------------------------------

Q.E.D.

Thanks, Donnie!
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Apr 1, 17 8:48 AM
That ain't squat compared to your own screwed up comments.
By pw herman (437), southampton on Apr 1, 17 9:07 AM
Why do the two of you even engage with this character so much this ideologue who guaranteed that Trump had no path to 270 electoral votes.

Then Trump got 306 electoral votes.

The guy who said Oh, and by the way, the latest average-of-all-polls has Hillary up by 5.8% (with a bullet.)

It's OVER. I realize that posting repetitive, baseless allegations disparaging Hillary and everyone who has ever been associated with her relieves y'alls' stress, but did you ever consider ...more
By joe hampton (2749), The Hamptons on Apr 1, 17 10:19 AM
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They are now asking us to believe that Gorsuch has no path to 52 votes. They'll never learn.
By SlimeAlive (410), Southampton on Apr 2, 17 9:00 AM
Still would like to know if you work for a living and pay for your health insurance , is your altruistic rhetoric backed up by altruistic action?
By bigfresh (2676), north sea on Apr 1, 17 8:58 AM
to bigfresh:

So, what IS your business's name?

I already told you that "I" don't answer presumptuous requests for personal information from strangers. Since YOU, however, find such questions to be perfectly appropriate, why are you hesitating to provide the requested information?

Why not let us all revel in your successful entrepreneurship.

By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Apr 1, 17 9:10 AM
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By toes in the water (430), southampton on Apr 2, 17 8:33 AM
toes in water he has not been the same since losing all credabilty with comments like these .....

Considering his appalling poll numbers, do you suppose that The Donald could be convinced, for patriotic reasons, to concede the race in advance of the election? It would save so much divisive antagonism and expense. If not, his candidacy is, at least, free entertainment that "I", certainly, am enjoying.

What a satisfying experience this political season is proving to be!

Calm ...more
Apr 2, 17 9:54 AM appended by They call me
credibility
By They call me (1976), southampton on Apr 2, 17 9:54 AM
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I have no desire to put our business' name out in this forum, that being said , I have explained our situation regarding health insurance, a little quid pro quo perhaps? If not, one can only assume you are on the dole?
By bigfresh (2676), north sea on Apr 1, 17 11:27 AM
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What is highhatsize mother's maiden name, Conehead ?
By pw herman (437), southampton on Apr 1, 17 12:28 PM
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to bigfresh:

Quote:

"I have no desire to put our business' name out in this forum, that being said , I have explained our situation regarding health insurance, a little quid pro quo perhaps? If not, one can only assume you are on the dole?"
------------------------------------------------

It is unsurprising that you choose to take my refusal to encourage your bumptious presumption to be proof that I am “on the dole”. You arrived at similarly nonsensical, ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Apr 2, 17 2:49 PM
If I provide an explanation will you disclose your employment and health insurance status?
By bigfresh (2676), north sea on Apr 4, 17 11:02 AM
. . . . . and ask him to show us his small hands !!!
By pw herman (437), southampton on Apr 4, 17 11:36 AM
Pölzl.
By Sturgis (140), Southampton on Apr 1, 17 4:42 PM
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Let the record show that libs worked to preserve the Federal Government's ability to force you to buy whatever they tell you to buy.

Enjoy that.
By SlimeAlive (410), Southampton on Apr 2, 17 8:59 AM

Why there will be no Repeal and Replace, and no TrumpIDon'tCare:

What Dave Chappelle Teaches Us About Donald Trump
There are elephants attacking elephants all over the place.
TOURÉ

04.01.17
The zenith of Dave Chappelle’s brilliant new Netflix standup special “The Age of Spin” comes when he describes his vision for a movie about a superhero who can access his life-saving powers only by patting a woman’s vagina. This, as you can guess, ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 2, 17 8:33 PM
Clayton Bigsby is that you in that June bug costume ?
By joe hampton (2749), The Hamptons on Apr 3, 17 1:15 AM
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razza5350. Another Mensa member making assertions out of his derriere. Mr. Chaloner made an "insane statement"? Let the following explain to you why you are wrong:


Can hospitals turn away patients?



The Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act (EMTLA)
Public and private hospitals alike are prohibited by law from denying a patient care in an emergency. The Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act (EMTLA) passed by Congress in 1986 explicitly forbids ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 3, 17 7:54 PM
Circa News reported Monday that White House staffers found logs that document and date stamp President Barack Obama’s national security adviser Susan Rice accessing intelligence reports that included associates of the Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign:

We need to press hard and get several US Attorneys working on this investigation/prosecution immediately.

This is Watergate times 1000.

The NSA data collection system was just illegally used by Obama ...more
By They call me (1976), southampton on Apr 4, 17 1:49 AM
This is the EXACT kind of distortion and jacked-up scenario the right would love to have as truth. No proof, evidence, or declarations of fact satisfy unless weighted to your beliefs. Every law enforcement and intelligence agency has stated that trump's outrageous Tweet is false, yet you persist with your caviar dreams. Lest he looks foolish, the wise man stays behind his skis until all is known, and focuses on known truth which is our vulnerability to a foreign adversary. In the meantime, ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 4, 17 1:11 PM
to They call me:

Quote:

"This is Watergate times 1000."
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Absurdity.

The only "news" here is that Obama national security adviser Susan Rice accessed intelligence reports in which the names of Americans who were Trump associates weren't redacted, which is (apparently) contrary to normal procedure.

Not even breitbart, your plagiarized source, suggests ANY of YOUR hysterical conclusions.

You're ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Apr 4, 17 5:41 AM
a fool and there money are soon parted
By Undocumented Democrat (1387), southampton on Apr 4, 17 7:02 AM
Not so fast Hat Head... This is a big story
By joe hampton (2749), The Hamptons on Apr 4, 17 7:06 AM
Reduce Medicare age to 55 to lower insurance costs for everyone. Allow health insurance companies to charge 25% higher rates for BMI obesity and for cigarette smoking.
By dfree (227), hampton bays on Apr 4, 17 7:16 AM
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What is your budget estimate for adding those aged 55-65 onto the Medicare rolls? Lots of Baby Boomers in this age bracket? What programs would you cut in order to expand Medicare in this fashion.

Thank you.
By PBR (4788), Southampton on Apr 4, 17 7:32 AM
Cut defense spending to global average of 2% of GDP, about a 50% cut. Cut all other Federal programs -- makes no sense to over fund NIH and NPR while US citizens suffer poor health care. The cost will be about $7000 per person, about 30 million citizens, so about $210 billion.
By dfree (227), hampton bays on Apr 4, 17 10:31 AM
PBR. you should know better. Ask a stupid question and get a stupid answer? LOL
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Apr 4, 17 3:02 PM
It's a big story in the real world, not the ivory towers of the liberal elite!
By bigfresh (2676), north sea on Apr 4, 17 7:29 AM
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Good one hat. One might ask, hmmmm, why is the Obama national security advisor Susan Rice unmasking of private citizens "contrary to normal procedure" as you put it. The answer? Because at best it gives the perception it was for political purposes - a FELONY. At worst it IS a FELONY. Whether it can be proven it was done for political purposes is another story - but, seemingly it was just Donald Trump and associates unmasked. Huh....
Apr 4, 17 7:53 AM appended by Mr. Snerdley
But we all know in the court of public perception the left does nothing unless it is for political gain. Maintaining political power and party before country is job #1. Apparently there is nothing apparent when it comes to breaking from the ideologue party first mentality of the left.
By Mr. Snerdley (282), Southampton on Apr 4, 17 7:53 AM
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By pw herman (437), southampton on Apr 4, 17 9:16 AM
When it became known of Russia's interference in our political process, it was the duty of national security officials to unmask. Which is a routine process. And a process with particular procedures that must be met, the abuse of which would be felonious. There is no evidence whatsoever that procedures were not followed. Riddle me this, Mr. Snerd, if discovery of trump Inc.'s contacts with Russia were for political purposes, why were they not revealed before the election?
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 4, 17 1:57 PM
JB, you're 0 for 2 tonight, at best. It is not the duty of Presidential appointees to unmask, or request unmasking, in issues where no linkages to any investigation is apparent. Susan Rice was a user of intel, not the investigative arm. You've jumbled the players in the process you've described, and their roles. There is significant evidence it was abnormal. And to add, there has been no evidence of any improper ties with Russia in regards to Trump, or efforts of direct interference in the political ...more
By Po Boy (131), Water Mill on Apr 4, 17 8:57 PM
Official Susan Dirty Rice Statement:
"WE DINDU NUFFINS!
THE SURVEILLANCE WAS A SPONTANEOUS DEMONSTRATION IN RESPONSE TO A REPREHENSIBLE YOUTUBE VIDEO!"
By They call me (1976), southampton on Apr 4, 17 2:11 PM
And now we learn the mysogynist predator has just rolled back the 2014 Fair Pay and Safe Workplace order as a safeguard for women put in place by President Obama to ensure companies with federal contracts complied with labor and civil rights laws. The order guaranteed paycheck transparency and banned forced arbitration for sexual harassment, sexual assault, or sex discrimination claims. (This is how Gretchen Carlson was able to skirt arbitration. and instead go through the courts, and thus ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 4, 17 2:21 PM
Well if it's any consolation Obama himself wasn't even paying women equal to men in his own administration. POTUS Trump has openly stated his position on women's pay... it should be based on performance, not gender. That would definitely however explain the lower pay for women in the Obama administration given the Susan "Boiled" Rice-Gate. Obama had a few under performers, and one of them has the initials HC. BTW, Fox News has a federal contract? Huh.
Apr 4, 17 3:04 PM appended by Mr. Snerdley
To add, there is no evidence that the felonious unmaskings committed by the Obama administration had any links to Russia, and were NOT related to an ongoing invstigation.
By Mr. Snerdley (282), Southampton on Apr 4, 17 3:04 PM
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Government pay is based on grades, not gender, and you know nothing of the salaries of the women in President Obama's administration. It is revealing and laughable if not sad that you dismiss the knowledge, the experience, the intelligence of the most qualified woman ever to hold public office in our lifetimes, and hold a male so unfit, so unqualified, so vile in high regard. Women have been fighting for equal pay for equal work for decades, and still only make 83 cents on the dollar. Without ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 4, 17 4:35 PM
And Mr. Snerd, as for Gretchen Carlson, she circumvented the terms of her contract with Fox which required arbitration by suing Pig Ailes, and not Fox.
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 4, 17 4:49 PM
But you mentioned Gretchen Carlson in relation to the 2014 Fair Pay act that ensures companies with federal contracts complied with labor and civil rights laws, citing it as the mechanism that allowed her to go through the courts. I'm confused as well by your use of the example.
By Po Boy (131), Water Mill on Apr 4, 17 8:28 PM
Using FACTS in a debate with ultra liberals is just not fair!!!! :)
By bigfresh (2676), north sea on Apr 4, 17 4:18 PM
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Jina eat lunch. Jina great again.
"Neophytes should never bargain with experts." Ah so!!!

The looming strategic disaster at Mar-a-Lago this week
China will try to buy off the Trump administration. It may very well succeed.


By Daniel W. Drezner April 3 at 8:15 AM
Daniel W. Drezner is a professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University and a regular contributor to PostEverything.
Mar-a-Lago isn't just Trump's ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 4, 17 5:34 PM
GREAT AGAIN: Trade Gap Shrinks As Exports Rise...
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL By JOSH MITCHELL
April 4, 2017 4:09 p.m. ET

U.S. Trade Gap Shrinks as Exports Rise
Ahead of meeting between Trump and China’s Xi Jinping, deficit with Asian giant narrows

MAGA
Apr 4, 17 6:48 PM appended by 27dan
How fast would the trade deficit vanish if the US levied the same tax at its border other countries do at theirs. Free and FAIR trade is coming our way.
By 27dan (1930), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 4, 17 6:48 PM
Trump Plans To Crack Down On Trade Abuses

“I’m not, and I don’t want to be the president of the world. I’m the president of the United States, and from now on it’s going to be America first,” DJT

So funny to watch the lying MSM spinners desperately try to hold their ground against this tsunami of America first euphoria.
By Ditch Bum (187), Water Mill on Apr 5, 17 7:40 AM
Her interest was not in national security but to advance the political interests of the Democratic party. The thing to bear in mind is that the White House does not do investigations. Not criminal investigations, not intelligence investigations. Remember that.

By Undocumented Democrat (1387), southampton on Apr 4, 17 10:45 PM
If President Trump ditches the Freedom Caucus, which he has already threatened to do several times, and lowers the Medicare age to 55, he will easily be re-elected. Everything else is just noise.
By dfree (227), hampton bays on Apr 5, 17 6:18 AM
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By Ditch Bum (187), Water Mill on Apr 5, 17 7:31 AM
to Mr. Snerdley:

Quote:

"Good one hat. One might ask, hmmmm, why is the Obama national security advisor Susan Rice unmasking of private citizens "contrary to normal procedure" as you put it."
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Naughty, naughty, Mr. Snerdley.

You left out the word "apparently" in the above deceptively edited quote. That would be, ""apparently' contrary to normal procedure". "Substantively", it WASN'T, as Michael Rogers (the Director ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Apr 5, 17 6:42 AM
Yes, let's talk deceptive.... and your source goes on to say, to which the answer is, no.... there was no legitimate reason to make the umasking request. What was the intelligence value? What was the criminal activity? The answer - None.

"As Rogers explained in his March 20th testimony, the first step is to determine whether the intercepted communication has “intelligence value.” He said, “We’ll ask ourselves, is there criminal activity involved, is there a threat, ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (282), Southampton on Apr 5, 17 8:08 AM
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Liberal Kool Aid instead of coffee this morning HH?
By bigfresh (2676), north sea on Apr 5, 17 6:50 AM
Good morning bigfresh.... Isn't It a wonderful day

Desperate progressives are launching a last-minute attack against Judge Neil Gorsuch that reeks of desperation, By tonight they will be telling us Gorsuch is a Russian agent.

Trump is bringing the economy's MOJO back. Proof that all America needed was a strong leader with an America first attitude. Not a weak leader with a globalist one
By joe hampton (2749), The Hamptons on Apr 5, 17 7:11 AM
Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” associate editor and columnist for The Washington Post David Ignatius said President Donald Trump’s tweets accusing former President Obama’s administration of wiretapping Trump Tower prior to the election “has morphed into a legitimate discssion about privacy, about proper masking techniques.” lol ya think !

Prsident Trump proven right, yet again! and their losing there minds on morning Joe..... ya gotta luv it.

...more
By 27dan (1930), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 5, 17 7:24 AM
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to Mr. Snerdley:

Quote:

"Yes, let's talk deceptive.... and your source goes on to say, to which the answer is, no.... there was no legitimate reason to make the umasking request."
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It doesn't say that at all, Mr. Snerdley. Only a true believe would be so demented as to post a lie and then post the quote showing that his assertion IS a lie in the same comment. Right-Wing belief overwhelms reason - - - AGAIN.

What ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Apr 5, 17 1:25 PM
"all that has been shown is that the N.S.A. followed normal procedures for reporting intelligence and responding to unmasking requests by the most important national-security policymaker in the White House."

Why was Susan Rice, the most important national-security policymaker in the White House, asking for intelligence reports and requesting the unmasking of candidate, then nominee, President-Elect and possibly even President Donald Trump and his associates? As we now know, it wasn't ...more
Apr 5, 17 3:10 PM appended by loading...
Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) on Rice, “She was effectively a White House staffer as the National Security Adviser, she did not run any agency. So, for her to unmask some of this information, that was not done in terms of furthering any investigation because she was not conducting the investigation.”
By loading... (495), quiogue on Apr 5, 17 3:10 PM
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"It doesn't say that at all, Mr. Snerdley."

Well good hat, now you're educated on the facts as stated by the very same person (Rogers) you quoted. Any ignorance from this point forward will be further indication of the degree of your fecal contamination and confirmation that you're wearing an outhouse as a hat on that big head of yours.
Apr 5, 17 8:57 PM appended by Mr. Snerdley
With your fecal levels rising hat, let's again cover the basics: 'He (Rogers) said, “We’ll ask ourselves, is there criminal activity involved, is there a threat, potential threat or harm to U.S. individuals being discussed in a conversation.” If the N.S.A. determines that the information doesn’t have value, it purges the data. If it determines that it does, it masks the identity of the Americans before circulating the intelligence." There was NONE!
By Mr. Snerdley (282), Southampton on Apr 5, 17 8:57 PM
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So what the Democrats are telling us is:

Hillary was protected by the most egregious acts of domestic espionage against rival political opponents in our History and it was legal.
Hillary had the most propagandist core of press operatives ever in our history collude with her campaign and act as the offensive line for her party because well they just deserve favorable reporting since ideological partners naturally do so.
Hillary was supported by a big television network that leaked ...more
By They call me (1976), southampton on Apr 5, 17 10:09 PM
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Rice lies, everyone knows it! Obungo ordered the illegal tapping bet on it, The chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee told ABC News that he is very concerned about allegations that Susan Rice, President Barack Hussein Obama’s national security adviser, abused her access to intelligence reports that included incidental collection of information about associates of President Donald Trump.
Apr 5, 17 10:08 PM appended by They call me
TRUMP BUMP: 46% APPROVE...The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 46% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.
By They call me (1976), southampton on Apr 5, 17 10:08 PM
Using the forces of the government to destroy the opposing party is what we see in countries like Venezuela, now we see the same tactics used by the Obama administration, this seems to be a common thread with socialist, they all use the same playbook.
By Undocumented Democrat (1387), southampton on Apr 5, 17 10:30 PM
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smallpantssize like other delusional Dems, refuses to accept the reality that wise American voters elected President Trump, not the Russians. BHO and his cohorts like Rice spent 8 years turning the federal government into the strong arm branch of his neo-Marxist administration, openly violating federal law at will. They need to be held accountable for numerous crimes against the American people. It makes me extremely angry that they have violated my constitutional rights to a freely elected representative ...more
By joe hampton (2749), The Hamptons on Apr 5, 17 10:41 PM
The only delusion is what you profess to believe. You believe a lie.
I told you so.

Bigger Corporations Are Making You Poorer

Matt Stoller
Apr 5 2017, 4:15pm

"These findings bring to the fore critical and troubling trends that would otherwise be hidden from view," said Sabeel Rahman, a professor at Brooklyn Law School who specializes in the intersection between money and democracy. "Economic power and concentration increases inequality while also undermining economic ...more
Apr 5, 17 11:01 PM appended by Mr. Z
Piketty and Saez b*****s.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 5, 17 11:01 PM
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fair lol
By joe hampton (2749), The Hamptons on Apr 6, 17 12:21 AM
More anti Capitalism tripe .
By bigfresh (2676), north sea on Apr 6, 17 7:16 AM
And more "I have no clue what I'm talking about" posts.
Apr 6, 17 6:04 PM appended by Mr. Z
Since your posts provide ample proof that you don't care about anyone else outside of your test tube world, here is a solid fact for s***s and giggles: "...if the US had the same income distribution it had in 1979, each family in the bottom 80% of the income distribution would have $11,000 more per year in income on average, or $916 per month.[28] Half of the U.S. population lives in poverty or is low-income, according to U.S. Census data."
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 6, 17 6:04 PM
In case you missed it:

"Half of the U.S. population lives in poverty or is low-income, according to U.S. Census data."

Come on, please tell us how the unregulated invisible hand of the free market has allowed all boats to float on a rising tide. Is it truly believable that over 100 million people in this country are lazy and don't want to work? Please do tell us if you actually believe that.

You can't fix stupid. Ignorant maybe, but not stupid. Ignorant and stupid? ...more
Apr 6, 17 9:38 PM appended by Mr. Z
BTW, I'd believe one third.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 6, 17 9:38 PM
Classic JuneZ, personal insults are the last refuge of the ignorant. Those willing to put forth the effort have been able to well, at least in industries not hamstrung by onerous governmental regulation. Is your answer MORE government intrusion into businesses?
By bigfresh (2676), north sea on Apr 7, 17 6:50 AM
Who said I was insulting you?

Were you directly addressed?

Seems like a hefty dose of insecurity. I hope you solve your personal issues.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 7, 17 2:23 PM
By the way, would you be inclined to believe 33% of this nation is lazy and does not want to work?

Per the old joke, I think you are a disciple of the bishop. and the sheriff, bigfresh.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 7, 17 11:13 PM
To Mr. Snerdley:

Quote:

“Any ignorance from this point forward will be further indication of the degree of your fecal contamination and confirmation that you're wearing an outhouse as a hat on that big head of yours.
...
‘If the N.S.A. determines that the information doesn’t have value, it purges the data. If it determines that it does, it masks the identity of the Americans before circulating the intelligence.’ There was NONE!”
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Only ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Apr 6, 17 7:25 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA----->You. When a liberal begins responding to a discussion with semantics, they're toast. I'd like to know why Susan Rice's story continues to change. Does she "know nothing" about unmasking, or did she "...only do it to protect the American people and to do our jobs".Hmmm? Quick someone call Norsic and Sons, Outhouse Hat needs an emergency pump out before he goes under.
By Mr. Snerdley (282), Southampton on Apr 6, 17 9:07 AM
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to Mr. Snerdley,

While persevering in your infantile poo-poo talk (I dumbed it down for you.), you manifest once again the vocabularic ignorance that corresponds to your mental age.

There was nothing semantically ambiguous in my post. Your belief that there IS simply shows your limitation in the recognition of simple words.

After mommy tells you about "inference", ask her about "semantics".

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The Right-Wing libel ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Apr 6, 17 11:55 AM
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Highly educated Susan Rice, daughter of highly educated parents, is so above the likes of the propagandized illiterates on this thread that she shouldn't actually be mentioned in the same sentence. The haters on the right raised on the bilious spew of Limbaugh and Savage et. al. cannot exist without a foil, and she is made to order. A female, black to boot, and Hillary's e-mails just don't cut it anymore. Notice it's never a male. Unless black, of course. They will never accept the truth b/c ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 6, 17 12:39 PM
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By pw herman (437), southampton on Apr 6, 17 12:47 PM
"Highly educated Susan Rice..."

Oh, thank you June for the laugh, I almost fell out of my chair. This from highly edumacated Susan Rice: "I leaked nothing to nobody." I'll leave you here with your friend to figure out the chalk board lesson in grammar. Have at it you two hghly edumacated crazy kids.
By Mr. Snerdley (282), Southampton on Apr 6, 17 3:53 PM
Susan Rice is just another run of the mill maoist good for nothing.
By pw herman (437), southampton on Apr 7, 17 7:39 AM
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By pw herman (437), southampton on Apr 6, 17 9:15 AM
I really hope the Freedom Caucus repeals Obamacare and replaces it with "free market" whatever they want or some other giveaway to larcenous health insurance companies. The next election would be a landslide for whatever candidate promises Medicare for All so huge that the Republican Party would disappear into the dustbin. Of history.
By dfree (227), hampton bays on Apr 6, 17 10:26 AM
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor
By Ditch Bum (187), Water Mill on Apr 6, 17 10:46 AM
The beauty of the Russia issue is it keeps sponge bob small pants from accepting responsibility for the loss. Yes a guy you called a buffoon walked off the street and smoked you. It really happened high hat. It really actually happened
By Ditch Bum (187), Water Mill on Apr 6, 17 11:20 AM
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The beauty of the Republican Party controlling the House, Senate and Presidency is that they can repeal Obamacare immediately and really Make America Great Again...Bueller? Bueller?
By dfree (227), hampton bays on Apr 6, 17 12:21 PM
You don't know too much about establishment Washington or the GOP, do you dfree? You see, there are facets to the GOP that don't subscribe to establishment elitist GOP Republican politics, which in some issues, is indiscernible from establishment elitist Democrat/Liberal politics. And that God for that, because we'd have nearly a one party system otherwise.
By Po Boy (131), Water Mill on Apr 6, 17 1:56 PM
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Andrea Mitchell more like Rice's lawyer then Journalist with soft ball questions.
NBC, ABC CBS, CNN...Are Shills For DNC!

Obama & Rice Pathological Liars Need To Be Locked Up For Benghazi Alone!

This "Trump Surveillance Scandal" will be much bigger than most people realize!
By joe hampton (2749), The Hamptons on Apr 6, 17 10:41 AM
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Lock Donnie up!
By johnj (583), Westhampton on Apr 6, 17 12:26 PM
For what? Sour grapes over the last election doesn't rise to either preponderance of the evidence, nor reasonable cause -as much as some think it should.
By Po Boy (131), Water Mill on Apr 6, 17 12:37 PM
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Congradulations Justice Neil Gorsuch

MAGA
Apr 6, 17 3:00 PM appended by 27dan
Hey Reid! Another black eye! How's it feel you PO* It will feel even worse when Trump replaces Ginsburg, The Supreme Court nominees was the most important issue to vote on in 2016. Thankfully the nation's voters got it right last year.
By 27dan (1930), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 6, 17 3:00 PM
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THANKS HARRY REID !
By They call me (1976), southampton on Apr 6, 17 3:09 PM
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Uh, huh....

TOP DEMOCRATS ARE WRONG: TRUMP SUPPORTERS WERE MORE MOTIVATED BY RACISM THAN ECONOMIC ISSUES

THE INTERCEPT
Mehdi Hasan
April 6 2017

IT ISN’T ONLY Republicans, it seems, who traffic in alternative facts. Since Donald Trump’s shock election victory, leading Democrats have worked hard to convince themselves, and the rest of us, that his triumph had less to do with racism and much more to do with economic anxiety — despite almost all of ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 6, 17 3:09 PM
Nope, supreme court picks, shrinking government, and immigration actually
By They call me (1976), southampton on Apr 6, 17 3:12 PM
...racism is June Bug's default setting.
By loading... (495), quiogue on Apr 6, 17 3:43 PM
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Says the political scientist.
You do know the immigration ban is racist, do you not?
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 6, 17 3:44 PM
Basement dweller here!

Hope you fools are happy. Shoulda got behind Bernie instead of that corrupt crone you supported. Well well well, elections do have consequences and now we are going to lose everything! I would rater support a hippie than be a hypocrite Now were gonna lose the court maybe Roe v. Wade ! You know who you are to smart to listen to sence no it alls. this is on youand yours
Apr 6, 17 3:57 PM appended by local 84
Noam Chomsky Calls Democrats' Obsession With Russia Conspiracy Theories "A Joke"During a recent interview with Democracy Now, Noam Chomsky demonstrated what everyone with a clear head and capacity for critical thought should already know. Just because you have a strong dislike for Donald Trump, doesn’t mean you latch on like a lunatic to every nonsensical Russia conspiracy theory because you’re still crying about Hillary’s loss. BERNIE BERNIE BERNIE!
By local 84 (272), riverhead on Apr 6, 17 3:57 PM
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First off, Islam is not a race, so calling Trump’s counter terrorism immigration measure racist is absurd. Secondly, it is not a “Muslim ban.” That would mean all Muslims were banned from entering the US. The ban excludes almost 90% of the world’s Muslims. This is a counter terrorist measure. Trump’s executive order states that it is designed “to protect the American people from terrorist attacks by foreign nationals admitted to the United States.”
By loading... (495), quiogue on Apr 6, 17 4:08 PM
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Local somthing is not right Noam Chomsky must be wrong !

HHS already told us

"Ultimately, when the FBI investigation finds firm evidence of his collusion with the Russians, the books will be closed.

Personally, I'm looking forward to a Costa Rican vacation paid for by The Donald. (There’s satellite TV there so I will be able to follow the sentencing.)

HASTA LA VISTA!

By highhatsize (3115), East Quogue on Mar 25, 17 12:52 AM "
By 27dan (1930), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 6, 17 4:16 PM
Maybe you're surprised, but in your camp, local 84.
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 6, 17 5:07 PM
First, the ban is unconstitutional. Second, we were attacked by Saudi Arabia which is Muslim and excluded from the list of countries. Third, Islamophobia is cultural racism To wit:

Nov 19, 2016
Muslims Aren’t A Race, So I Can’t Be Racist, Right? Wrong.
By Craig Considine

“Nonsense.” That is what people say when I accuse them of being racist. Their argument goes something like this: “Muslims are not even a race, so how the hell could I even ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 6, 17 5:12 PM
Haha that's rich .... especially coming from an anti Semite !!!
By Sturgis (140), Southampton on Apr 6, 17 5:13 PM
If Muslims weren't banned, it's not a ban.
By SlimeAlive (410), Southampton on Apr 6, 17 5:17 PM
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Anti-Zionist. Big difference.
You won't be impressed, but my new heroes include Adam Schiff and Jeremy Bash.
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 6, 17 5:18 PM
If i wasn't in such a hurry I'd have mentioned Bernie Sanders and Ruth Bader Ginsburg as well. Likely more to follow....
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 6, 17 5:21 PM
Wrong. Being anti Zionist is most definitely anti Semitic.
By Sturgis (140), Southampton on Apr 6, 17 6:24 PM
Wrong. Even some American Jews are anti-Zionist.
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 6, 17 7:03 PM
And guess what June ....that would make them anti Semitic as well !!
Just because someone is Jewish it doesn't mean they're automatically not anti Semitic.
By Sturgis (140), Southampton on Apr 7, 17 8:01 AM
The race card JuneZ? Really? Awesome , thanks for not disappointing. Nothing much left when you pull that one out. In the real world people are able to disagree with someone's position and not care about their race or sex, not so in the never never land of liberalism.
By bigfresh (2676), north sea on Apr 6, 17 4:28 PM
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Boom.


Cohn Backs Wall Street Split of Lending, Investment Banks

by Elizabeth Dexheimer
April 5, 2017, 11:09 PM EDT April 6, 2017, 1:22 PM EDT

Trump adviser supports split of lending and investment banking
Senators asked his views on Glass-Steagall in private meeting

In a private meeting with lawmakers, White House economic adviser Gary Cohn said he supports a policy that could radically reshape Wall Street’s biggest firms by separating their ...more
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 6, 17 6:37 PM
Illiterate, humorless, vile bag of gas.


REVEALED: Former SNL cast member says ‘moron’ Trump ‘struggled to read’ script during rehearsal
Sarah K. Burris SARAH K. BURRIS
06 APR 2017


Former Saturday Night Live cast member Taran Killam is known for his hilarious impressions of Brad Pitt, Matthew McConaughey and Jake Tapper. But it was President Donald Trump he went after in a recent interview with Brooklyn magazine.

When the president ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 6, 17 8:34 PM
Victory achieved by lying, malfeasance, and chicanery is not only hollow but ultimately self defeating.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 6, 17 9:13 PM
Update:

M2 Money Stock (M2)
Observation:
2017-03-27: 13,417.9 billion dollars
Updated: 3:51 PM CDT



By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 6, 17 10:44 PM
Trump responds to chemical attacks on Syrian civilians with 59 Tomakawk cruise missiles.
He also obliterated Barry's red line.
By loading... (495), quiogue on Apr 7, 17 6:08 AM
Raytheon shares are up along with Trumps approval numbers
By Ditch Bum (187), Water Mill on Apr 7, 17 7:35 AM
In one move, Trump makes Russia look like it is backing Dracula, looks China's president in the eye and says this could happen to N. Korea, and shows the world that the USA is no longer lead by isis pigeons. All it took was 59 missiles and about 30 minutes.

The US is under new management.
By SlimeAlive (410), Southampton on Apr 7, 17 6:14 AM
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Yes because it was important for the US Government to violate the US Constitution in order to secure territory for the Al Qaeda led rebels in Idlib against the Russian backed despot in Damascus. Clear and present danger? Obviously, it was a clear and present danger to spend $590 million worth of Raytheon missile money but not one red cent for healthcare for poor sick people in the United States. Go President Trump! Make America Great Again by making Syria safe for Al.Qaeda! Why should we ask ...more
By dfree (227), hampton bays on Apr 7, 17 6:48 AM
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Dfree, But what about Aleppo ?

DON'T MESS WITH TRUMP AND DON'T TRY TO OUT GUESS HIM

MEGA
By Ditch Bum (187), Water Mill on Apr 7, 17 8:03 AM
Have you no compassion for the innocents killed by Assad?
By bigfresh (2676), north sea on Apr 7, 17 6:54 AM
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Is the US Constitution meaningless? What was the clear and present danger to the US? Where is the Congressional resolution? Were those poor people US citizens? Last time I looked at a map Turkey, our NATO ally whom we have supplied with weapons for 50 years, shares a long border with Syria and is has troops and air forces quite close to Idlib. Are we now mercenaries for Turkey? If there is any ethnic cleansing to be done in the Middle East let the Turks handle it, they have experience. And ...more
By dfree (227), hampton bays on Apr 7, 17 7:09 AM
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HAIL TO THE CHIEF

MEGA
By 27dan (1930), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 7, 17 7:12 AM
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Now thats what a red line looks like... It was short, sharp and as clinical as it gets Suggestions that Trump's election was masterminded by Russians now look stupid.
now he needs to back off and be careful not to get over involved! Now back to matters at hand, tax reform, repealing obama care and immigration

I love that he did it while having dinner with the Chinese, I picture Jinpings people whispering in his ear about the strike as President Trump says " Xi hows your steak... now ...more
By joe hampton (2749), The Hamptons on Apr 7, 17 7:32 AM
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I voted for missiles to be flying overhead with the target being Isis , not the enemy of Isis. But this was a nice move on some levels... just hope he does not aline himself with the neo cons to much. Assad and Russia need to start paying a little more attention to the USA again and this put them on notice... now back to fighting the real enemy ISIS and radical Islam
By joe hampton (2749), The Hamptons on Apr 7, 17 7:55 AM
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Busy Thursday for the Trump administration:

1.) bombed syria
2.) Got Gorsuch to today's confirmation
3.) met with head of china
4.) drew up subpoenas for susan rice

happy friday!
By even flow (304), East Hampton on Apr 7, 17 8:13 AM
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Carnac the Magnificent says : The answer is Donald Trump for 8 years as POTUS "AND" Ivanka Trump for the following 8 years as the first woman POTUS.
By pw herman (437), southampton on Apr 7, 17 9:57 AM
Let us now commence the neocon swoon. And ooooh, Raytheon's stock rises.
Welcome to McCain's wet dream, and a deepened war which the US has no idea how to end, and in fact a war to make more war. And more big bucks.
Imagine being so empathy free that you're excited by bombings, but willing to refuse innocent immigrants fleeing those bombs. Syria's latest attack is not the first, nor is it the worst, so our attack is transparently awful. Did we hear a peep out of the jerk in the prior, ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 7, 17 10:35 AM
And now I see Justin Trudeau is saying we really don't know for sure who actually carried out the chemical attack. Some of us have been around long enough to know we need to question everything we are told. The coverage is soooo reminiscent of the Gulf Wars with all the trotting out the punditry of old, shareholding generals, and the poetic waxing of the likes of Brian Williams as the missiles flew through the air. Jesus.
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 7, 17 11:15 AM
And now Fox is reporting that a Russian destroyer is headed toward 2 US ships in the eastern Mediterranean that launched missiles last night. This should end well.
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 7, 17 11:18 AM
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By Sturgis (140), Southampton on Apr 7, 17 11:23 AM
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So you believe everything your government tells you? Learned nothing since Vietnam, WMDs, mushroom clouds? If so, what a fool you are. There is yet independent investigative proof of who is responsible, so best to hold your eye rolls at least until then.

HOW DO MEDIA OUTLETS KNOW SOURCE OF CHEMICAL ATTACK WAS SYRIAN GOVERNMENT?

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Videos vividly captured children frothing at the mouth or struggling to breathe. It sparked a massive global outcry, and ...more
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 7, 17 2:20 PM
"So you believe everything your government tells you?"

No, not about Benghazi or Hillary's Emails but this chemical attack on children. Yes

Have a sparkling day.
By They call me (1976), southampton on Apr 7, 17 2:45 PM
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Lookie here, another member of Mensa.

Russia forewarned, and they in turn warned their Syrian friends. Sure looks like some surprise attack, wouldn't you say?

Even the UN monitors haven't finished their assessment, Skippy.
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 7, 17 3:21 PM
by all means please bring out Hans Blix the Swedish Sherlock Holmes to clear everything up for us, we could all learn alot from you and your very amusing viewpoint. Tell me please do you test car impact safety for a living?
By They call me (1976), southampton on Apr 7, 17 5:25 PM
Manufacturing Jobs Hit 8-Year High, Outpace Gov't Growth...


MARCH JOBS: +98,000...

Unemployment 4.5%...

153,000,000 Americans Employed in March, Setting 2nd Straight Record...
Gorsuch confirmed...

MAGA
By 27dan (1930), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 7, 17 1:51 PM
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By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 7, 17 3:23 PM
But before the above scenario, the planning might have gone as a fine American who shall remain nameless suspects: "Wouldn't it be nice if it was impossible to suspect Putin OK'd Assad's gas attack so trump could fire missiles and change the subject in the USA?"
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 7, 17 5:56 PM
You're losing it.
By even flow (304), East Hampton on Apr 7, 17 7:22 PM
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A variation on the Facebook girl's scenario that Malcolm Nance has proclaimed a "viable strategy possiblity": "Trump will pretend that we will topple Assad. Putin will threaten war. Trump will make a deal to drop sanctions to get Russia to leave."
Either way the path will be cleared for the Rossneft Oil Deal.
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 7, 17 8:32 PM
Reuters reporting Syrian warplanes taking off from the airbase we bombed, and striking the Homs countryside.
Uh huh, what's Mr. Bigley McToughshot going to do now?
By June Bug (946), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 7, 17 3:37 PM
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By pw herman (437), southampton on Apr 8, 17 8:54 AM
My guess is this has little to do with Syria but was more of a subtile way to send N Korea a message.
By bird (564), Sag Harbor on Apr 8, 17 11:16 AM
President Trump !
By Undocumented Democrat (1387), southampton on Apr 9, 17 9:23 AM
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How Trump Could Make It Easier for Corporations to Screw You Over

Aaron Kase
Apr 10 2017, 6:42pm


Do you know what the Seventh Amendment is?

The United States is a notoriously litigious society. Suing the crap out of everything that moves is as American as bad comic book movies or defiant ignorance. Distasteful as it can seem, however, our endless appetite for lawsuits can play in favor of the individual. You can't challenge corporations to a duel, or tar and feather ...more
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Apr 10, 17 7:19 PM
Dont worry Mr Z Russia Might Not Re-Elect Trump If He ‘Does the Wrong Thing’ in Syria
By Ditch Bum (187), Water Mill on Apr 10, 17 8:07 PM
House Freedom Caucus chairman Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) tells Breitbart News exclusively that he expects House Republicans will unite around common principles and pass an Obamacare repeal and replace bill that lowers premiums for Americans soon—delivering President Donald Trump a major victory in the Congress’s lower chamber.
By They call me (1976), southampton on Apr 12, 17 12:40 AM
I'll bet Breitbart really hit him with some tough follow-up questions, too! This will be called MotherGooseCare because it will be founded on the same reality the rest of the Mother goose tales are.
By VOS (883), WHB on Apr 12, 17 12:44 AM
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