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Apr 3, 2017 4:39 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press & The Southampton Press

Amid Fears Of A Labor Shortage, Congressman Lee Zeldin Promises Action to Local Growers

U.S Representative Ian Wile of Little Creek Oyster Farm and Market in Greenport. ALEXANDRA TALTY
Apr 3, 2017 4:49 PM

As growers, aquaculture specialists and agriculture business advocates convened to meet with U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin at the Long Island Farm Bureau in Calverton on Saturday morning, one issue was top of mind: the labor shortage on Long Island.

Opening up the roundtable discussion, Long Island Farm Bureau President Karl Novak asked how Congress would help farmers with immigration reform and make legal labor more accessible. Mr. Novak pointed out that historically the agricultural industry has been a bastion of immigrants, from the Polish farmhands of the early 1900s to the industry’s largely Latino workforce now.

Mr. Zeldin expressed support for making it easier for farmers to hire immigrants legally, although he would not commit to specifics until the new administration’s cabinet had a chance to ameliorate current problems, like what he called the “logjam” of the H-2A visa program. At the time that Mr. Zeldin met with the farm bureau, the secretary nominees for both the Department of Labor and Department of Agriculture had not yet been officially confirmed.

The H-2A visa program is one of the few ways that farmers can recruit seasonal workers from outside of the United States legally. For employers, the process is arduous and complicated. However in the United States, the workers pay federal and state taxes, and are also eligible for driver’s licenses. They can work only seasonally and must return to their home country for part of the year.

The application process involves multiple state and federal agencies, from the New York State Department of Labor to the U.S. Department of Labor. In addition to the time and financial burden for small growers, there is no guarantee that workers will be permitted in the county at the end of the monthslong process. Although farmers cannot apply more than 75 days in advance, there is no promise that their papers will be processed in that amount of time.

In 2016, the Department of Labor was accused of purposively slowing the processing of all H-2B visas, which are similar to the H-2A visa program, for a few weeks. Many claim that it was politically motivated, but whatever the intentions, three weeks without workers for landscaping companies, which use the program, spells disaster.

“I can’t say Mother’s Day is postponed for four weeks because my labor is,” said Bianca Sullivan, the owner of Calverton Colorful Gardens. Operating out of Cutchogue, Ms. Sullivan described the current visa program as a “nightmare” although after meeting with Mr. Zeldin, she was hopeful about the future.

“The intention is there,” she said, hoping that the process becomes less burdensome for businesses under the new administration.

“This country needs to realize that there aren’t people who want to do these jobs,” said Jenn Halsey, a Water Mill farmer who uses the H-2A visa program. She’s been using the program for 15 years, and says that there have been few changes to the process. Some departments still require paperwork to be mailed, rather than submitted electronically.

The uncertainty—every year you apply, you could be rejected—combined with mountains of paperwork make small-business owners shy away from using the program. One of the roundtable attendees who uses the program said that by the time he is done training his employees, they have to leave again.

Underscoring the urgency of this issue is the fact that the state’s minimum wage will hit $15 by 2021 for all Long Island employers. Agricultural industry advocates say that it will be devastating to the industry and only serve to make the labor shortage worse.

Another issue that many expressed concern about was the need for a legal path for citizenship for undocumented workers, who are already in the United States. Although there are no figures available for Long Island, the Labor Department estimates that half of the 1.2 million agricultural field workers are in the United States illegally. Farmers recalled the 1980s, when there was a legal path for citizenship, saying that they need a way for people to “come out from the shadows.”

“I’ve never been one to say ‘deport them all,’” Mr. Zeldin said, in response. When pressed on the issue of creating a path to citizenship, he remained vague, saying it would be impossible for the millions of undocumented people to stay, but that he hoped people who were educated in the school system or spent the majority of their lives here could one day become citizens. However, he tied his support to the issue of border security, saying that “the more control we’re able to bring over that element, the more support you’ll have for [a legal path to citizenship].”

Another labor issue that has farmers worried is the proposed nationwide E-Verify program, which matches an employee’s Employment Eligibility Verification Form I-9 to U.S. government records. When pushed on the issue, Mr. Zeldin did not assuage fears about the program becoming mandatory, but did say that if the H-2A visa program is not ameliorated, support for the E-Verify program could be a possible bargaining chip. He did not discuss specifics of what that actually meant, remaining vague on the subject.

The meeting ended on a positive note, with Mr. Zeldin encouraging farmers and local agricultural businesses to keep him in the loop on local issues. Citing the strained political climate, he expressed frustration at “partisan emotions” and made clear to attendees that he wanted to know what issues were important to them.

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Seasonal is the word. Years ago they came for there season to work on the farms. After the season they stay and burden the local systems.
Newsday article had a DWI that was illegal, here for over 20 yrs and may be deported. Had 5 arrests, plead down.
Never became a CITIZEN, WHY?
By knitter (898), Southampton on Apr 8, 17 8:58 PM
The Asian manufacturing miracle is founded in part on temporary contract labor from poorer south Asian countries (Phillipines, etc.). They are sponsored on 2-year work VISAs, are put up in company housing, work 6 days per week, make lots of money by their home country standards and then they go home. They don't overstay because employers rarely hire illegals and there would be no place for them to stay. Now local businessmen want laws repealed because it gets in the way of their becoming rich. ...more
By Funbeer (206), Southampton on Apr 9, 17 4:14 AM
The last people that need tax dollars are ''growers''. Those ''growers'' have become ''sellers'' and with every acre they sell, they become ''depositors''.

Spare me.
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Apr 9, 17 7:34 AM
What are we seeing here? We're seeing Lee Zeldin's rigid theoretical ideology on immigration come banging straight into the practical everyday needs of his constituents. It's one thing to say fix immigration, put up a wall, throw the violators out and so on, but what do you do, Mr. Congressman, when the people who voted for you need help on their farms and seasonal businesses?

Time to re-evaluate that 200% loyalty to D.J. Trump and think about loyalty to your constituents. This isn't ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Apr 9, 17 9:52 AM
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Folks, we have two major aspects to the local economy, one of which is agriculture which is in an operational crisis, and the one person the industry needs to assist is pathetically oblivious and ineffectual. He "cannot discuss specifics" on paths to citizenship, and "remains vague" on the subjects of E-Verify and the H-2A visa program. But "keep me in the loop", says he. How about you study up on your district and discover on your own what its needs are and how you can DO YOUR JOB, Mr. Z., instead ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 9, 17 10:32 AM
There's do doubt that you will be gone first.
By pw herman (727), southampton on Apr 9, 17 10:50 AM
June please enlighten me .... what exactly has Lee Zeldin "done" for Israel ? Or is it what I suspect...the very fact that he supports Israel...? That's what you take issue with correct?
By Sturgis (252), Southampton on Apr 10, 17 10:17 AM
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President Trump !
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Apr 9, 17 2:08 PM
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By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 9, 17 2:52 PM
As has been noted by other posters, supra, The Honorable Lee's extremist ideology is once again in conflict with the needs of his East End constituents.

Guess which will prevail. (Informative thereto is his "support", to date, of programs to remediate coastal erosion.)
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 9, 17 2:27 PM
Hahaha " other posters".....
By Sturgis (252), Southampton on Apr 10, 17 1:42 PM
Hahaha "extremist" ....
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Apr 11, 17 11:13 PM
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Enforcing existing immigration is somehow "extremist" HH? Please elaborate.
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 9, 17 2:51 PM
to bigfresh:

I thought that the article made it self-evident, bigfresh. Those would be the "existing immigration laws" whose mountainous paperwork and extraordinary lead time make it impossible for East End agricultural employers to hire the seasonal labor that they need. A representative who actually had the interests of his constituents at heart would pledge to streamline the process rather than just indicate vague "support" (like his "support" for coastal erosion remediation) for the ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 9, 17 3:59 PM
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By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Apr 9, 17 7:40 PM
Why would anyone leave the East End of Long Island and voluntarily go back to Honduras or Guatemala? Free healthcare and education for your children here, now through 4 years of one of the top 3 state University systems in the country. And if you get caught driving drunk and/or backing into a police car, without a valid driver's license, registration, or insurance, simply move to a new sanctuary county, change your name, get a new social security number and start a new LLC to avoid taxes. Dump ...more
By dfree (326), hampton bays on Apr 10, 17 9:48 AM
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And would you expect to enter your supermarket and find it brimming with fresh produce if the Hondurans and Guatemalans were unavailable or unwilling to spend long, back-breaking hours in the hot sun?
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 10, 17 11:41 AM
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I spend long back breaking hours in the sun but thanks to obama care the illegal is getting better insurance than I can buy, FACT!
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Apr 10, 17 8:01 PM
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I am sure you are doing whatever work you do by choice given you are a citizen and could change your lot with all the educational opportunities available to you. And I am also sure that you are way better remunerated for your work than any impoverished immigrant.
Sad that there isn't more resentment toward the real takers in our society, officeholders on the take and who do no work, those supported by tax loopholes, subsidies, e.g. And the newest and biggest grifters of all, your president, ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 15, 17 11:38 AM
Yes because a cheap head of lettuce is more important than allowing California farm owners to exploit slave labor from Central America. And it doesn't bother me at all that undocumented local residents use the local.hospital emergency room as their GP and the bills go to me since they have kids which entitles them to free NY State paid healthcare. You think that the Republicans are against immigrants but the fact is, we'll all be bankrupt from.medical bills before any government official, local ...more
By dfree (326), hampton bays on Apr 10, 17 12:03 PM
The point is not labor exploitation or what the system's negatives are as you perceive them. Without field workers from the southern hemisphere who do what natives won't, we would have to revert to the era before transport from warmer climes when we relied on preserved produce, or that which withstood cold storage.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 10, 17 6:55 PM
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Our fresh produce comes from hondurace and guatemala now.
By knitter (898), Southampton on Apr 10, 17 12:20 PM
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Lock him up!!
By johnj (695), Westhampton on Apr 10, 17 3:07 PM
WINNING: Gallup Reports U.S. Job Creation Index Continues to Hit Record HighsGallup’s March Job Creation Index hit a record high for the third month in a row, according to data published on its website last week.
“The Gallup Job Creation Index rose to +37 in March from +35 in February,” Gallup reported. “This is the third month in a row the index has hit a new record high after remaining relatively flat for much of 2016.” MAGA!
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Apr 10, 17 8:03 PM
I would like to know why Is It okay to bomb Syria but not okay to take in and help the refugees?"
By local 84 (302), riverhead on Apr 10, 17 8:28 PM
uhhhh maybe for the same reason you help the homeless but do not move them into your house and put them on the same room with your children.
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Apr 10, 17 8:38 PM
A quote from Cesar Chavez:. ". . . when the farm workers strike and their strike is successful, the employers go to Mexico and have unlimited, unrestricted use of illegal alien strikebreakers to break the strike. And, for over 30 years, the Immigration and Naturalization Service has looked the other way and assisted in the strikebreaking. I do not remember one single instance in 30 years where the Immigration Service has removed strikebreakers. . . .The employers use professional smugglers to recruit ...more
By dfree (326), hampton bays on Apr 11, 17 7:26 AM
Sure, and if you need cotton pickers and workers for the tobacco fields, go to Africa and bring in what you need. Apart from the stain on our souls of that obscenity, try to comprehend what economic benefit resulted. Same for now. Only at least today's workers aren't denied their freedom. It has always been notable and ironic that those who rail loudest against the influx of the undocumented are the very people who have canonized the man responsible for opening the floodgates. When the CA farm ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 11, 17 11:06 AM
It doesn't take much to find parallels between the relatively docile, angry leftists found in this country, like June Bug, where they are kept in check by some semblance of political opposition, and those where they can allow their ideology to bloom unrestrained in bastions of socialism like North Korea and the former USSR.

Guilt, in June Bug's mind, is not something limited to those who've committed some transgression. No, like in primitive tribal cultures, and socialist enclaves, "guilt" ...more
By MoronEliminator (87), Montauk on Apr 11, 17 11:48 AM
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Support the Farmers! They absolutely recall the Farm Crisis in 1980's...."one of the greatest economic turmoils since the Great Depression" grist.org/food/how-can-we-stop-farmers-suicide

Agriculture workers provide us with food. We should support and provide them with whatever necessary resources they need to continue feeding the world.

NO FARMS NO FOOD! THANK A FARMER TODAY :)
By toes in the water (544), southampton on Apr 11, 17 7:41 AM
Farmers are outstanding in their field.
By loading... (511), quiogue on Apr 11, 17 1:47 PM
Bring back the fishing industry by massive government de-regulations.
Now there's an honorable trade that would keep more locals at home.
By pw herman (727), southampton on Apr 11, 17 7:57 AM
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If you can't pick it, don't plant it. Not our problem.
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on Apr 11, 17 12:37 PM
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Unrestricted immigration is a problem for labor since it increases the supply of laborers and therefore drops wages for everyone. Allow folks in to pick cotton or strawberries or potatoes or pull weeds from rich people's lawns, give their kids free school through 4 year college and free healthcare and food purchase assistance and Town of Southampton housing then of course they will stay, it would be stupid to leave. 19th Century slavery in the US, abolished long after Great Britain but long before ...more
By dfree (326), hampton bays on Apr 11, 17 12:54 PM
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The subject of the article being commented on is not an excess supply, rather the SHORTAGE of workers for local farms. This line of work that does not require advanced skills or schooling, just advanced stamina, and wouldn't be high paying in any case. It is also often seasonal. The wage issue in general in the US is multi-faceted. If the median household income had kept pace since 1970, it would be $92,000, not $50,000. This in an economy that has grown and where profits are historically high. ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 11, 17 8:36 PM
JuneZ: It's just not possible for wages to in in perpetuity , there's a limit to what certain jobs are worth in dollars to the owner of a business. Labor is an essential part of the equation but if that labor becomes too expensive the business has two options, have less employees or shut down , neither option benefits the workers.
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 12, 17 6:36 AM
Actually bigfresh, there is another option known as the market. When labor becomes too expensive it is replaced with technology. I have already seen a number of articles where some illegal labor using businesses on the West coast have read the writing on the wall and they are investing in technology to replace a significant portion of their illegal labor which they expect to lose. I would expect the same to happen here.
By bird (635), Sag Harbor on Apr 12, 17 3:14 PM
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Everyone knows that the'yre just trying to slow down farm production so that we have an excuse to convert existing farms into more airports and helipads.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (424), southampton on Apr 11, 17 2:23 PM
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Almost 8:00 I have to go get ready for O'reilly
Apr 11, 17 7:39 PM appended by 27dan
MAGA
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 11, 17 7:39 PM
Ha, maybe the last time the tool O'Rudely will be contaminating the airwaves.
And Rachel Maddow had a bigger audience last night!
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 12, 17 7:18 PM
April 11, 2017

Rachel Madcow 9:00 PM 2,677,000 viewers
Bill O'Reilly 8:00 PM 3,605,000 viewers

Source: TVbythenumbers - Alex Welch - April 12, 2017

What say you?

By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 12, 17 11:26 PM
MAGA, eh?

These are the same nitwits who have been claiming America is the greatest country on Earth for years on these boards.

It'd be funny, if it weren't so damnably pathetic.
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 11, 17 8:03 PM
And to boot they wear their ignorance, racism, and mysogyny with such pride.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 11, 17 9:01 PM
Millions of "nitwits" want to come to the United States because it is the greatest country on earth. I'm certain if you want to lump the "nitwits" on these boards with the "nitwits" who want to come to the United States legally, we're all good with that considering the source(s).
It's moments like this that gives clarity to what is what and who is who.
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Apr 11, 17 11:08 PM
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Yes.....the Clintons tend to do that .
By Sturgis (252), Southampton on Apr 12, 17 7:33 AM
Ah, Fox News . . . . MAGA !!!
By pw herman (727), southampton on Apr 12, 17 8:31 AM
Matt Taibbi lol
By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 12, 17 12:27 AM
Maybe you should try reading instead of laughing like an ignoramus.
Apr 12, 17 6:26 PM appended by Mr. Z
I'll wager Hunter S. Thompson makes you "LOL" too.
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 12, 17 6:26 PM
If you ate food today....THANK A FARMER
By toes in the water (544), southampton on Apr 12, 17 7:07 AM
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Just to get back to the subject for a minute, it's still a giant con by Lee Zeldin -- he "supports" this and he "supports" that, but will he really do anything to make matters better? Highhatsize has rightly observed above that this is a man who's very free with the lip service, but next to zero in the actual performance. This is especially so for the orphan East End (again, highhat's insight) when The Honorable Lee sees that the votes are up west, not out here with us.

If the Democrats ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Apr 12, 17 2:18 PM
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Yes, yes just like Highhatsize also observed the following . . .

Also (back on REAL planet Earth), The Malingering Honorable Lee is considering whether hitching his wagon to Donald Trump might not have been the great idea that it originally seemed.

BYE-BYE Lee!
-----------------------------

Isn't it a wonderful day!

Your boy HHS is a regular Edgar Cayce, bwaaa
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 12, 17 5:18 PM
'but will he really do anything to make matters better?... this is a man who's very free with the lip service, but next to zero in the actual performance."

Rather non-specific wouldn't you say TB? Do anything to make matters better... what matters would that be? Which is it... zero, or next to zero that Lee doesn't do? Since you said "next to zero", one has to conclude Lee IS doing things. SO... at the end of the day judging from the reference to Democrats, the bottom line is... you just ...more
Apr 12, 17 11:11 PM appended by Mr. Snerdley
And while you and company are busy taking cheap shots, Lee is busy representing District 1 on the House Committee on Financial Services. Subcommittee on Housing and Insurance. Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, Subcommittee on Terrorism and Illicit Finance and Committee on Foreign Affairs.
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Apr 12, 17 11:11 PM
to Mr. Snerdley:

Why did you bother? There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING substantive in your post. TB says that The Honorable Lee hasn't done a thing for the East End. If you contest this assertion, post those things that he HAS DONE.

... waiting ... waiting ... waiting ... waiting ...
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 12, 17 11:31 PM
Oh Please... Everyone knows he kept Jay Schneiderman company at the parade!

"I had a great time marching in the Hampton Bays Hibernians St. Patrick's Day Parade and Patchogue St. Patrick's Day Parade over the weekend! Below I am pictured marching in Hampton Bays with some of our other elected officials."

Of coarse his biggest contribution to the East End Is he P off you far left radicals so much....
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 13, 17 12:00 AM
Simply asinine. Caring for 9/11 first responders doesn't pass the far left litmus test for doing anything apparently, so the importance of care, screening and services for the selfless 9/11 first responders is minimized in lieu of cheap ideologue fodder. April 11, 2017 Lee Zeldin Press Release - $60 Million grant for the Stony Brook University WTC Wellness Program. But yeah, pissing of the crazy left works just fine, too.
Apr 13, 17 12:51 AM appended by Po Boy
“This award is a remarkable commitment by NIOSH that enables us to help 911 responders who have multiple healthcare needs at every level, from their physical and mental health problems to monitoring the long-term effects yet to surface from exposures at ground zero,” said Dr. Benjamin Luft, MD, Director and Principal Investigator of the WTC Wellness Program.-----> “I appreciate the confidence that the federal agencies and legislators have in our program, and that they continue to support our work <------to care for these patients who selflessly gave of themselves at the time of the 911 attacks and aftermath.” “Stony Brook’s WTC Wellness Program has helped turn the tragedy of 911 for our courageous responders into a beacon of hope with healthcare experts and resources that make a real difference in their lives and well-being,” said Samuel L. Stanley Jr., MD, President of Stony Brook University. “This transformational grant will help to expand services for this important patient population and is a testament to the program’s long-term commitment and impact in caring for them.”
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 13, 17 12:51 AM
^^^^^^^^ THIS! Hahahaha... waiting...waiting... waiting....
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Apr 13, 17 12:58 AM
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I was just reading this article and immediately thought of highhatsize and JuneZy

Chris Buskirk at American Greatness reminds readers of MSNBC host Joe Scarborough getting the 2016 election completely wrong, predicting that candidate Donald Trump was toast. Scarborough is currently on the warpath against Trump’s campaign, with day-to-day rants portraying the White House as incompetent
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 13, 17 9:31 AM
"The worlds population will grow from 7 billion to 9 billion by 2050. Farmers will need to double food production to keep pace"

# THANK A FARMER
By toes in the water (544), southampton on Apr 13, 17 6:47 AM
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Flying High

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.

MAGA
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 13, 17 9:24 AM
Wait, I thought all the polls are were/are wrong.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (424), southampton on Apr 13, 17 12:59 PM
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By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 13, 17 12:20 PM
Hi, @June Bug,

Please don't copy-paste articles from other sites to 27east's comments section. The articles are protected by the copyright of those publishers.
By BOReilly (131), Eastport on Apr 13, 17 12:25 PM
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This is rather baffling since more than one commenter has been posting copied articles, and for a long time. How is it that any and all articles can be posted on Facebook and on Twitter? How does copyright apply only to 27East? No problem abiding by rules, but this comes out of the blue. Thanks in advance for a response.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 13, 17 1:41 PM
You can click "report as inappropriate" if you see any comments that appear to violate our Terms or Service or are otherwise inappropriate. I will review the comments and determine if they should be removed.
By BOReilly (131), Eastport on Apr 13, 17 1:49 PM
Where are the Terms for 27East posted?
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 13, 17 2:41 PM
https://www.27east.com/my/index.cfm?action=Account.terms
By BOReilly (131), Eastport on Apr 13, 17 2:46 PM
Sorry, there are no 27East Terms of Service anywhere on that page. I am looking for your published statement of guidelines for commenters.
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This is what's found through that link. See under "Online behavior, posting rules."


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Thank you! This site needed to be directed towards more respectful and to the point discussions, without allowing some to dominate the space here. Maybe you should consider word limits as you do for letters to the editor in the Hard copy Press.
By Taz (316), East Quogue on Apr 15, 17 12:01 PM
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USA DROPS MASSIVE BOMB ON ISIS

Funny how our that radical Muslim administration knew where to find this area during the last 8 years and nothing significant happened until Trump came along.

MAGA
By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 13, 17 2:42 PM
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Kim Jong-un next ?

Make the world peaceful again

Enough of the last 8 years ENOUGH !

This is the Trump we voted for MAGA.
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Apr 13, 17 2:47 PM
Funny how the trained seal in the WH has learned how STUNTS distract and garner applause.
And even funnier how dropping bombs stops terrorist ranks from increasing.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 13, 17 5:30 PM
no more C&P? There goes any cogent argument from JuneZ!
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 13, 17 5:20 PM
Philly would have been shat out of luck as well
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 13, 17 5:31 PM
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So CIA chief Pompeo has come out and contradicted POTUS by citing Wikileaks (so LOVED by his boss) as a non-state intelligence conduit used by Russia in collusion with the trump campaign to defeat HRC. Yet more tightening of the vise, so prepare for more mothers of all distractions.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 13, 17 5:38 PM
Nope, he said to Thank a Farmer tomorrow after your enjoy a morning bowl of corn flakes
By toes in the water (544), southampton on Apr 13, 17 7:46 PM
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Oblama would be doing nothing...as usual...strutting around, trying to Sound important, avoiding all conflict and apologizing to everyone. Our enemies loved him--he was so weak.
Trump is a President... in 3 months has proven his superior suitability for the office. He understands the Carrot and The Stick, and the Responsibility of being the Big Dog.
In just the past week he has regained the global respect for America that Oblama worked night and day for 8 years to destroy.
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 14, 17 12:41 AM
Tuesday's Quinnipiac Poll: trump's approval rating 35%. Down from 37% in March 22 poll.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 13, 17 8:01 PM
New Revelations Belie trump Claims on Syria Chemical Attack
A former US official says Russia informed this US counterparts in Syria of the Syrian military's plan to strike the warehouse in Khan Sheikhoun 24 hours prior, and a leading analyst on military technology, Dr. Theodore Postol of MIT has concluded the alleged device for a sarin attack could not have been delivered from the air, only from the ground.
No proof at all that sarin was used: he said exposure to munitions that create ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 13, 17 8:09 PM
What kind of things does a farmer talk about when he is milking cows?

Udder nonsense!
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Apr 13, 17 10:09 PM
After the dust settles maybe we can get Obama to do an ISIS APOLOGY TOUR and bow from the waist to every non American he meets.
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 14, 17 12:49 AM
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June Bug, recently admonished by 27east for copying, pasting & sniffing, has now taken on the role of isis spokeswomen. Maybe it's time she's banned from this site for her anti-American & sickening rhetoric. There is no possible salvation for June Bug.
By pw herman (727), southampton on Apr 15, 17 9:35 AM
June Bug was not alone in posting copyrighted material on this site, but was somehow singled out.
June Bug happens to have a different opinion than most of the commenters on this site, one that happens to be the majority opinion in the country, but the one that is the most loudly defamed thanks to the highly financed efforts of the right wing via hate radio, etc. Along with the guideline prohibition of posting copyrighted material on this site is one which prohibits a lack of civility via ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 15, 17 1:04 PM
Right wing hate radio? Have you watched CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC news or read NYT, Washington Post, Huffington Post lately? r u kidding?
By Taz (316), East Quogue on Apr 15, 17 1:29 PM
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How is pwherman's post suggesting June Bug's views are "un-American and sickening" not defamatory?

Because Its just his opinion that you are a snow flake, a politically correct partisan, he seems to feel your point of view and politics are one sided and exist to serve your personal interests and prejudices.

I personal hold the opinion he is correct.

MAGA
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 15, 17 1:46 PM

And, pray tell, how is your political point of view not "one sided"?
Or are your "prejudiced" views the only "correct" ones?
And because of said views, you should be banned from this site?

Disagreement is one thing, but hurling defamatory invective is quite another. Unfortunately, that is what your idol is best at, and has set the example resulting in a climate in America where incivility has become the norm. There was a time when the word "gentleman" had meaning.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 15, 17 4:02 PM
Down with all of the worn out Bolshevik and Maoist thinkers !!!
Gentleman ( & Ladies) - Start Your Engines & Make America Great Again !!!!!!!
By pw herman (727), southampton on Apr 15, 17 5:40 PM
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Calling Trump childish, insulting names on a nearly daily basis is hurling defamatory invective , don'tcha think JuneZ? Your twisted left wing opinions are most certainly held by the majority of Americans. Happy Easter, He is risen.
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 15, 17 5:53 PM
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"There was a time when the word "gentleman" had meaning."

lol, please lets be honest, there was a time when the term "lady" meant something way different then what we have today. If i was a man of means i would think twice before getting married to fast, what i hear from my fellow gender these days is self centered to a scary new level. be carfule men alot of women will burn you and fast.
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Apr 15, 17 6:20 PM
He is fair game, just as President Obama was fair game for you.

And I haven't heard word one from you complaining about the world class defamation emanating from the pursed lips of your idol and cult leader.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 15, 17 6:23 PM
That there are fewer in the world who behave in a way that earns the designation "lady" or "gentleman" does not mean that our society is totally devoid of decency. We just don't presently have any in the WH.
Instead we have a vulgar, unfit, man-child who believes in nothing but the pursuit of loot and headlines and no doubt the (likely-taped) unmentionable, and whom no self-respecting woman would even think of voting for. And what kind of woman puts down her own gender, revealing an acceptance ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 15, 17 8:14 PM
no just an acceptance that the world has gone nuts, all you have to do is watch an episode of the kardashians or real housewives to see how these women have lost their minds,they have become worse than the men they seem to hate.

the kind of women that go to these rallies we see on the news are mostly bitter crazies and what they don't realize is everyone is laughing at them with there silly hats and vulgar poetry. why would a man want to put up with a madonna or ashley judd type in his ...more
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Apr 16, 17 9:04 AM
So this farmer was walking his field when he came across his neighbor from the farm next door and he asked: Clem how ya doing ?

Clem replied: Much betterr Andy, I reckon Its due to Precedent Trump is gonna git ridda all the Mexicans.

Andy responded: How do you suppose he is going to do that Clem ?

Clem replied: Juan by Juan I suppose.
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Apr 13, 17 11:26 PM
US Farmers produce about 40% of the worlds corn .

By toes in the water (544), southampton on Apr 14, 17 7:11 AM
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Only 210, 000 Full time U.S. Farmers produce 80% of our food & fiber
By toes in the water (544), southampton on Apr 15, 17 8:54 AM
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The latest CNN tactic is to proclaim Trump is mainstream, in hopes his base will abandon him before the next election. Hilarious

Trump is reviewing plans for the wall. Illegal crossings are already down 70%. Gorsuch is seated. Budgets for all of the useless agencies are being slashed. MOAB is dropped on ISIS. Russia doesn't know what to do. Stocks are up. Employment is up. New trade deals are being negotiated.

Libs still walking around depressed... Everything is good in the neighborhood.
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 15, 17 9:24 AM
I salute President Trump. In spite of the hate and smearing and wire tapping and threats, our president is working to keep his word and to do what is right and best for America and ALL her citizens. I respect and admire Trump even more every day as he goes about the business of doing what he was elected to do.

Real Americans have spoken. We want our country back. Our jobs were being sent to Mexico and China. Our taxes were being spent on illegals, refugees, and welfare leaches.

My ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Apr 15, 17 9:32 AM
At what point are right wing nuts going to realize this is nothing but a game show. All that counts for li'll donnie drumpf is ratings. There is no plan or policy. What is our plan in Syria. Remember the braggadocio orange cheetah was going to schmooze Putin into having a great relationship with us. He couldn't even talk him out of backing an ally who dropped poison gas. Li'll donnie ran into someone who is the master and creator of alternative facts. How's it feel now. You do realize if you drop ...more
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 15, 17 2:09 PM
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Come on Mets lighten up. Its all in the presentation Hollywood would love Trump if He bombed North Korea over lack of trans bathrooms
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Apr 15, 17 6:11 PM
Desperate reply trying to make sense of the orange buffoon.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 16, 17 9:11 AM
i was just reading how melania is taking time to visit abuse shelters to deliver easter baskets, thats nice
Apr 15, 17 5:24 PM appended by Erin 27 E
she is the prettiest and classiest first lady since jackie kennedy
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Apr 15, 17 5:24 PM
Yes, it's nice to have a first lady who doesn't have to shave her back.
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Apr 15, 17 5:47 PM
So failing to produce the promised proof that she didn't work here illegally prior to citizenship, and word-for-word plagiarizing of the speech of an actual classy (and the most-popular-first-lady in recent history) is "classy" to you? And all it takes to garner your admiration is for her to pass out baskets handed to her in a stunt conjured up by spinmeisters? Further, her name should never even appear in the same sentence with Jacqueline Kennedy. I am sure her daughter, Caroline, would take ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 15, 17 6:50 PM
Your late for your KKK meeting, racism still very much alive on the right based on your ignorant posts.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 16, 17 9:10 AM
Not racist at all, I think it was a reference to the belief that Moochelle is really a man. There are many U tube videos that show why some people believe this. I am not convienced but they do bring up some interesting points like why are there no pictures of the kids from when they are younger and so on.

Stop pulling out the race card so fast it makes you look silly.
By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 16, 17 9:28 AM
I don't pull it out, they just have to read your ridiculous anti-american, un-american posts. So you think Michelle is a man, you really shouldn't post anymore, you never had any relevance, you surely don't have any now. Go back under your racist rock, take the slime bum as well.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 16, 17 10:24 AM
I don't pull it out, they just have to read your ridiculous anti-american, un-american posts. So you think Michelle is a man, you really shouldn't post anymore, you never had any relevance, you surely don't have any now. Go back under your racist rock, take the slime bum as well.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 16, 17 10:26 AM
These Berkley attackers in the black are the anti-Americans out to attack pro-Americans. The same thing happened in America in the 1920's when the communist did the same thing and even went as far as using bombs. least not forget this is exactly what the brown shirts in Germany did. I guess we can call these guys the black shirt. Notice how they are all wearing the same thing? The was an organized attack. composed of all of anti-American communists.

THEY all have on mask's,THIS should be ...more
By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 16, 17 9:21 AM
This is a brain on crack.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 16, 17 11:24 AM
Looks like President of the United States of America Donald Trump needs to send the US Military to Berkeley, California and North Korea to protect Americans from Communists.

The Local Police in Berkeley sure seem to be as worthless as a bolívar in Venezuela.
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 16, 17 9:38 AM
So which is it? All along we thought white supremacist Nathan Damigo, who sucker-punched a woman in the street yesterday, was your idea of a "real American". Now you say he's a Communist? What gives?
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 16, 17 11:26 AM
Isn't it funny, you were all for the Drumpf making nice with Putin. Then you found out he's better at alternative facts than the orange cheetoh.How many associated with the orange buffoon were in bed with the commies? The far right everything but real americans.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 16, 17 10:34 AM
Lots of photos of the hard working orangutan playing golf. No more photo-ops of him in church? Placing religion with Trump is like putting lipstick on a pig.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 16, 17 10:38 AM
Article II Emoluments Clause: Nothing of value to president from the Federal government.

So far, $35,000 in taxpayer money for >Golf Cart Rentals<.

This is his 18th time on a golf course in 12 weeks.


By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 16, 17 11:36 AM
Junezy I suppose you were one of the fools bloking traffic in Water Mill yesterday ? You couldn't give a rip about his actual taxes, you all are just looking for snarky ways to vilify and demonize him. Silly children looked so foolish.
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Apr 16, 17 1:55 PM
You guys only wish Obama spent half as much time working as our guy Trump! MAGA!!!!!!
By Taz (316), East Quogue on Apr 16, 17 11:29 AM
To all Christians around the world have a safe and happy Easter!

This "New Persecution of Christians Phenomenon" is simply the end result of Obama's disastrous "Leading-From-Behind-Foreign-Policy" and his inherited, smug disregard, for anything to do with Christianity ... all backed by a complicit and corrupted, anti-Christian Mainstream Media.

Things are now getting better thank god!
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Apr 16, 17 1:41 PM
Making golf great again
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 16, 17 1:30 PM
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Barack Hussein Osama II was is not horrendous lol golfer!

Michael Jordan: Barack Obama Is a 'Hack' and a 'Sh---y' Golfer

“I’ve never played with Obama, but I would,” Jordan said, before reconsidering. “But no, that’s OK, I’d take him out. He’s a hack and I’d be all day playing with him. I’m just saying he’s a sh---y golfer.”
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 16, 17 1:36 PM
Barack Hussein Osama II was a horrendous lol golfer!

Michael Jordan: Barack Obama Is a 'Hack' and a 'Sh---y' Golfer


Heres what MJ had to say

“I’ve never played with Obama, but I would,” Jordan said, before reconsidering. “But no, that’s OK, I’d take him out. He’s a hack and I’d be all day playing with him. I’m just saying he’s a sh---y golfer.”



By joe hampton (2701), The Hamptons ...more
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 16, 17 1:37 PM
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An orange buffoon who golfs every weekend and is a sh--- leader. No wonder he hasn't accomplished anything but loosen regulations to poison the environment. What shiny object is he working on this week.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 16, 17 5:13 PM
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Shiny objects?

How 'bout selecting another Supreme Court Justice for when the next vacancy occurs (soon, actually) and planning the next military action to dissuade that fat little dorm room refrigerator with the Skid Row haircut from launching any more missiles toward us or our allies, something his predecessor never got around to doing.

Yeah, he's a horse's patoot, but he's leading the country and getting some important things (see above) accomplished.

Hate him that ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1735), Northampton on Apr 16, 17 8:11 PM
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Perhaps he should pen an Executive Order to clean up the kitchen at Mar-A-Lago, LOL.


"A leader operating on a Learner's Permit."

~ John Oliver
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 17, 17 7:47 AM
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Barack Obama never learned to be an American & Bill Clinton is a fully licensed pervert.
By pw herman (727), southampton on Apr 17, 17 8:20 AM
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The really pathetic thing is how the right wingers here b****** up a storm about how unqualified Barack Obama was for the Oval Office. "Community Organizer", b****, gripe, b****, b****, b****.

The current POTUS is even LESS qualified to hold office.

It'd be hilarious, were it not so pathetic.
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 17, 17 7:24 PM
We'll see what he does, he's not dissuading anybody right now. Assad's regime is still bombing away. His options for North Korea are very limited. We haven't figured out North Korea in sixty three years.Don't worry the Drumpf has no actual plan or policy for Syria or North Korea. Next shiny object this week? I didn't vote for him.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 17, 17 6:01 AM

CNN's Fareed Zakaria discusses his experience with "Trump derangement syndrome," where people's hatred and anger towards the president is so intense that it impairs their judgment. He talks about Obama speechwriters attacking Trump for doing exactly what President Obama would have done in Syria.

"And then came the strike against Syria. On that issue, Trump appears to have listened carefully to his senior national security professionals, reversed his ealier positions, chosen a calibrated ...more
By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 17, 17 8:02 AM
You mean like the GOP did for eight solid years?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 17, 17 7:25 PM
Nonsense. He would smile and say something snarky and the media would genuflect and report that anyone who thinks he should be embarrassed is a racist.
Seen that movie all to many times over the last 8 years!

1000s were gassed by Obama and he did nothing. Think he would do something because 23 were? John Kerry would say that the murders somehow show that his deal is working or some BS.. then would blame the whole incident on a YouTube video and up load James Taylor and go sing 'You've ...more
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 17, 17 8:15 AM
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Obama gassed thousands of people?

Damn, they didn't even try to impeach him, LMAO!!!
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 17, 17 7:29 PM
You forget conveniently that Barack Obama went to the Republican congress to okay the use of force in Syria and was denied. Again, tell me what the orange orangutan's plan and policy is for North Korea and Syria.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 17, 17 8:56 AM
Yes, Obama did go to Congress (IMO so he didn't have to accept responsibility for military action) and yes, he was denied, but it is because Obama couldn't even win the majority of his own party. This was evident in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee vote which did pass by 10-7 but was bipartisan in both support and opposition with two liberal Democrat members voting against the bill and another Democrat voting "present" rather than for either side. Three Republicans voted in favor of the bill. ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Apr 17, 17 10:15 AM
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You write implying an assumption that Mr. Shoot from the Hip has fixed Syria with his little sideshow of force. Bullpuckey. The problem remains with no good options, One can only characterize Obama's request as appropriate, with a Congress responding to a practically impossible situation and the will of war-weary people. Just the kind of governance envisioned and established by our founders.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 17, 17 11:11 AM
Majority of Republicans were against using force, correct. By the way, what has Trump accomplished with the bombing of the air strip that was operational the next day? Again, what is his policy or plan?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 17, 17 12:33 PM
They will pathetically latch on to any perceived positive to justify what they believe.

There's a psychological condition for that...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 17, 17 7:30 PM
The pain on Mika's face this morning on MSNBC was so precious as Steve Rattner's charts showed that stock markets, consumer confidence are way up since inauguration.

"Stock market soring, small business optimism has shot up to its highest level since 2004, consumer confidence on the rise. Trump deserves credit"

Mika just openly sighs...
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 17, 17 9:05 AM
And we openly sigh whenever you click "Submit".
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 17, 17 7:31 PM
Monday, April 17, 2017

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.

If a MSM poll says 50, it must be at least 65.

MAGA
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 17, 17 11:08 AM
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Sure.

Because according to your post history, America has ALWAYS been great. There was never a time it wasn't. How's that bandwagon rolling along?

'Murica, because 11 million illegal immigrants can't be wrong, LOL.

By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 17, 17 7:34 PM

The abomination can't even put on an Easter egg roll for kids. The plagiarizing first lady hasn't hired organizational staff, so today's pitiful, watered-down event is being run by hold-over OBAMA volunteers. Mr. I ALONE can do it all.........
Obama used to mix and mingle and read stories to the kids; The bloated orange tub is walled off behind a fence surrounded by SS. And the dopey Eric who "runs the family business" is out on the front lawn in full violation of the Constitution discussing ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 17, 17 11:37 AM
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I saw the interview, you are not telling the truth as usual, He said thank god those decisions are not up to him and that his father is doing an amazing job, and over half the country agrees with him.

MAGA
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 17, 17 11:43 AM
No, you are not telling the truth. Over half of the country does not agree with him. Gallup has him at 41% today, Pew at 42%, and Marist at 39% with 57% saying he's on the "wrong track". Number 2 son referred to North Korea, Syria, and Afghanistan in the interview, all foreign policy issues. The rest was nothing but one long tout of the Slacker-in-Chief. Why the need to continuously assign over-the-top superlatives like "amazing", "remarkable", "incredible" to Daddy when screw-up and failure ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 17, 17 7:44 PM
And to provide a bit more clarification the misrepresentations June B, they weren't part of "OBAMA volunteers" nor did they run it. The people you speak of are registered volunteers who are part of a registered list aka, precleared list of locals in the DC area -who "had already attended one of the four volunteer orientation sessions that have been taking place over the past two weeks at the White House, organized by the Visitors Office". The truth shall set you free!
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Apr 17, 17 5:30 PM
Nice try, Snerd.
Melania Trump has not yet named a Director for the Visitor's Office, the crucial player for the WH Easter Egg Roll, an over a hundred year-old tradition. And anyone who has run the event in the past will tell you what a beast it is to organize, and that planning starts months prior. This event was hastily thrown together with only half the usual number of volunteers, most from the Obama years who were relied on for yeoman's help b/c of their experience and the lack of not-yet-hired ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 17, 17 8:08 PM
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Oh, and just caught video of a child handing trump a cap, and after signing it, instead of handing it back, he threw it up in the air. This was juxtaposed with video of President Obama hugging and comforting a crying child at his egg roll. We have a disgusting president.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 17, 17 8:16 PM
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You certainly are the queen of misrepresentation June B. You managed to gloss right over that the event was downsized by design and as example, the number of eggs was intended to be only 40,000, all of which were made and delivered. The "issued several notices" you refer to, was a tweet reminder from the company. It stated "FYI manufacturing deadlines for the Easter eggs are near. Please reach out!" - sent on February 20.

You also realize June B, it's the White House Visitor's Office who ...more
Apr 18, 17 8:19 AM appended by Mr. Snerdley
And here's an update for you on the "hat incident" from the Washington Post: Update: A different angle of the incident appears to show the man who originally handed President Trump the hat later catching it and saying, “Thank you” as people laughed.Trump, using a thick Sharpie, put his signature on the bill of the cap, then looked up and lobbed it back into the crowd, with a smile, nowhere near the hand that had given it to him (presumably leaving the hat's owner to scramble as Trump looked on and the crowd laughed)....It was a lighthearted moment from a president who spent the weekend facing questions about international diplomacy..."
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Apr 18, 17 8:19 AM

One of the most popular and anticipated DC events, with mega PR value, 139 years' worth without a hitch, is downsized by design? How about necessity b/c nobody home to do the work? Even Republican insider David Frum wrote about the panic outreach for help from, yes, the holdover volunteers. That a company producing the wooden eggs for years would have to issue more than one (public) reminder via Twitter tells you there was nobody home.
And that as of 5 days prior, the children always ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 18, 17 11:23 AM
Oh, and I'm sure the kiddies much preferred being entertained by a military band over let's say Beyonce, Jay-Z, or Justin Beiber. Which brings up your allergy to the word "celebrity". How about "professional entertainers"? Is that better?
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 18, 17 11:40 AM
to Po Boy:

Quotes:

"TB says that The Honorable Lee hasn't done a thing for the East End. If you contest this assertion, post those things that he HAS DONE." - highthatsize

"Lee Zeldin Press Release - $60 Million grant for the Stony Brook University" - Po Boy
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So, according to you, Stony Brook is on the East End!? I put it rather further west, and well into that part of The Honorable Lee's district on ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 17, 17 6:48 PM
Maybe Lee Zeldin could personally hold your hand and re assure you that everything is going to be alright ?
By pw herman (727), southampton on Apr 17, 17 7:10 PM
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I guess it all depends on your definition of the phrase "hasn't done a thing for the East End," hat. I view the Honorable Mr. Zeldin's support and advocating of services and resources that residents of the East End and the entirety of District 1 (in this case 9/11 responders) potentially use as "DOING something for the East End." Whether you and company apply the same reasonable standard, is entirely of your own choice.
Apr 18, 17 11:46 AM appended by Po Boy
Now, can we move on to important business like debating the definition of "is."
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 18, 17 11:46 AM
"There's a sucker born every minute."

~ Joseph "Hungry Joe" Lewis
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 17, 17 7:45 PM
"Thank you for your loyalty Mr Z"
~ Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili
By pw herman (727), southampton on Apr 18, 17 8:32 AM
Once again, your stunning display of intellect astounds us all.

"And later on, monkeys might fly outta my butt."

~ Wayne Campbell
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 18, 17 6:50 PM
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By pw herman (727), southampton on Apr 19, 17 7:19 AM
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By pw herman (727), southampton on May 2, 17 8:18 AM
Steady as she goes

MAGA
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 18, 17 8:49 AM
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By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 18, 17 8:55 AM
Bipartisan agreement announced that Susan Rice was falsely accused by DJT, and did nothing wrong. So there, you pinheads....

Item 2: Neil Gorsuch humiliated by Elena Kagan on his first day on the bench. Yea, Elena!
Accuses lawyer of "making up" precedent, i.e., lying. Kagan cleverly corrects.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 18, 17 12:04 PM
to Po Boy:

By your expansive definition, Po Boy, anything that The Honorable Lee does for any District 1 resident, anywhere (including his favored constituents to our west [e.g. Stony Brook]) is a "benefit" the East End. It is not that casuistry to which I was referring.

I am simply asking you to list those initiatives that The Honorable Lee has undertaken for East End residents exclusively, rather than by virtue of their being included in some larger group. (You know, like federal ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 18, 17 3:07 PM
As self important as you seem to believe you are hat, the Honorable Lee Zeldin represents the entirety of District 1 and its residents. No, I don't think we'll find him doing special interest favors for things such as fire work permits, but yes, I believe we'll find him representing the interests of District 1 with integrity and without fear or favor for the good of all. If you'd like to learn more about Mr. Zeldin's accomplishments, support, advocacy and efforts for District 1, I'll direct you ...more
Apr 18, 17 3:19 PM appended by Po Boy
I do find it fascinating that in typical liberal fashion, success and "doing" is gauged by amount spent. Rather narrow minded IMO. But since you appear focused on dollars alone, I thought this to be yet another great example from March 23, 2017 - Lee Zeldin - Co-introduced Legislation Providing Additional Resources for Long Island Sound Restoration; Commercial Fishing, Tourism, Sporting Industries from Long Island Sound Contribute $17-$37 Billion to the Economy Annually. Far enough East for you? Let me guess, not enough $$$?
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 18, 17 3:19 PM
SHOOTING RAMPAGE FRESNO...
THREE DEAD...
SUSPECT SCREAMS 'ALLAH AKBAR'...
'HATRED TOWARD WHITE PEOPLE'...
By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 18, 17 5:55 PM
Surely nothing to do with Islam!
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Apr 18, 17 5:59 PM
“A Taoist (me) gives up his seat so a Hasidic couple could sit together. They scoot over so a Muslim mother could sit and nurse her baby, on Easter Sunday."

~ Jackie Summers
Apr 18, 17 7:09 PM appended by Mr. Z
P.S. The professor (Allan Lichtman) who predicted Trump's win now predicts he will be impeached. Have a nice day...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 18, 17 7:09 PM
That is called common courtesy, you have a nice day as well
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Apr 18, 17 8:58 PM
P.P.S. Rounds of golf by April 1st post inauguration:

Trump 14
Obama 0
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 18, 17 9:33 PM
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How is doing some of the business of President on his own golf course and country club a bad thing JuneZ? Did you miss his meeting with the Chinese premier at Mar A Lago?
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 19, 17 6:04 AM
Sure.

And travel/security costs have exceed 25 million dollars in less than 100 days.

Not that any "conservative" should be bothered by that...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 23, 17 8:27 AM
Conservatives didn't vote for Trump. And since when do libs care about spending money? The cost of added security due to death threats from democrats was $175m but I don't hear you complain about that.
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on Apr 23, 17 9:39 AM
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By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on Apr 19, 17 6:37 AM
Youtube: "So God Made a Farmer" , By Paul Harvey
Absolutely Worth Watching !!!

By toes in the water (544), southampton on Apr 19, 17 7:14 AM
to Po Boy:

Quote:
"Far enough East for you?
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No.
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Quote:
“Let me guess, not enough $$$?"
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Right you are.

"The Long Island Sound Restoration and Stewardship Act" is a worthy effort (a continuing authorization of a program from Tim Bishop’s tenure) but, again, the East End benefits only as a distinctly minor player in an inter-state program covering an extensive ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 19, 17 7:45 AM
Right I am! We've now established several important programs the Honorable Mr. Zeldin has had a hand in that positively impacts District 1 and East Enders. 9/11 first responder care and services - not good enough for you. Restoration of Long Island Sound - not good enough for you (there are more if you are so inclined). Just so I can understand the arbitrary standards of this moving goal post, what would YOU like to see? What meets your standard? Clearly you're in the "will never be happy with Mr. ...more
Apr 19, 17 11:13 AM appended by Po Boy
"he continues to pander to our racial and religious xenophobia" Ahhhh, the surest way to know when a position is thinner than ice on Lake Agawam in August.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 19, 17 11:13 AM
Georgia Special Election: Democrat Falls Short

Jon Ossoff nice try,

This election proves one thing.....not only can't the Dems win an election, they can't even steal one any more!! and they tried very hard to steal this one.
By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 19, 17 9:24 AM

STUDY: 89% of Media Negative Towards Trump...

And even with that study just look what a peaceful news cycle we are in thanks to Trump no news is good news

MAGA
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 19, 17 12:25 PM
to Po Boy:

Quote:

"Just so I can understand the arbitrary standards of this moving goal post, what would YOU like to see?"
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Again you dodge the question, to wit:

Can you present one, single, significant initiative by The Honorable Lee that addresses the unique critical needs of the East End (such as groundwater/waterway pollution and coastal erosion?)

Those "goalposts" haven't moved since you first dodged ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 19, 17 2:36 PM
Ahhh, yes, those non-movig goal posts, yet strangely we've gone from "hasn't done a thing for the East End" to "unique critical needs (such as...)"... Perhaps you missed Mr. Zeldins's already established bi-partisan action and support on Long Island Sound pollution and shore restoration through The Long Island Sound Restoration and Stewardship Act. Doesn't affect the East End you say? I say you're full of yourself. I'll once again point to the Honorable Mr. Zeldin's House website for an exhaustive ...more
Apr 20, 17 11:08 AM appended by Po Boy
Ever hear of Peconic Bay hat? Perhaps you also missed Mr. Zeldin's efforts on the National Estuary Program. From his website - An important EPA wetlands protection program, the National Estuary Program was established by the Clean Water Act and grants funding to state and local programs which promote water quality and wetland restoration. This critical program supports both the Peconic Bay and Long Island Sound; as such, ensuring they receive proper funding is a top priority. In the last Congress, I helped lead the bipartisan effort to successfully reauthorize the National Estuary Program which resulted in a $26.5 million appropriation of funding. As a founding member of the bipartisan Congressional Estuary Caucus, I am calling on Congress to protect this funding so it can be used to protect the Sound and support so many other waterways in the United States.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 20, 17 11:08 AM
to Po Boy:

Again, you point to the East End's incidental inclusion among many in programs whose reauthorization provided it with SOME support as if were indicative of The Honorable Lee's interest in our area. By contrast, in those areas of greatest concern to us (i.e. groundwater/waterway pollution, coastal erosion), The Honorable Lee has maintained his Sphinx-like silence.

You could as well argue that EVERY national program that the Honorable Lee signs onto that happens to include ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 21, 17 12:27 PM
Here's an idea hat. Educate yourself and search Lee Zeldin and coastal erosion. That silence you hear is because you have your listening ears turned off. You'll see things like:
Rep. Zeldin Announces Massive $1.16 Billion in Funded Projects for Next Phase of Fire Island to Montauk Point dredging, erosion, beach nourishment and shoreline projects.

By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 21, 17 12:52 PM
to Po Boy:

Get the Right-Wing sand out of your eyes, Po Boy!

Montauk residents asked the feds for at least 1.5 million tons of sand to renourish their beach. In response, The Honorable Lee "succeeded" in getting the Army Corps of Engineers to "consider" giving them 160,000 tons.*

Way to go, Lee! That's heaps better than your usual nothing.


* http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/East-End/492227/Zeldin-Calls-For-Public-Pleas-To-Army-Corps
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 21, 17 4:18 PM
Yes, hat.. the very same article you called a "puff piece for Zeldin" as the Honorable Mr. Zeldin appealed to constituents to get involved in the critical public comment phase for an erosion project, you know, the very things you've repeatedly said he doesn't do.
Apr 23, 17 11:46 PM appended by Po Boy
Coastal erosion apparently wasn't too important to you then judging from the "puff piece" comment, and I can't image it can be too important to you now, other than as an opportunity to belly ache about Mr. Zeldin and his efforts for the East End. Yet again, admirable efforts by our Congressman are poo pooed by you. One has to wonder what your real motivation is, other than blind [insert adjective here] because the needs of the East End don't really seem to be your primary motivator.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 23, 17 11:46 PM
... One might even conclude your efforts hat to dismiss the Honorable Mr. Zeldin's efforts by the "puff piece" comment give clear indication Mr. Zeldin IS working hard on the very things you've said he doesn't do.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 23, 17 11:49 PM
to Po Boy:

Your misinterpretation of my post from August is either dim or deliberately disingenuous.

The fact is that the article that I criticized then touted a failure of Zeldin's as if it were a success. Hence - - - a puff piece.

The article about beach renourishment WOULD HAVE BEEN newsworthy had The Honorable Lee actually succeeded in fulfilling his Montauk constituents' request. He didn't. He failed. (If he tried.) But the Press (and you) proffer his shameful ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 24, 17 1:33 AM
Conclude as you will to my assessment hat, It is based merely on what you posted. Unless you are completely void of the workings of the comment process, the conclusion your making would appear to be deliberately disingenuous. The regulation, funding authorization and political process is designed with checks and balances - one of which is public comment. While the Honorable Mr. Zeldin can do everything within his power and authority to lobby for additional funds which HE HAS DONE, the process itself ...more
Apr 24, 17 9:48 AM appended by Po Boy
So as we explore this topic ad nausea, the fallacy of the original topic that Mr. Zeldin "hasn't done a thing for the East End" becomes more and more evident. The reality is Mr. Zeldin IS working diligently for the East End, even under the new parameters you've injected (i.e., pollution, erosion).
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 24, 17 9:48 AM
April 19, 2017

Camille Paglia: Trump Already Headed Towards Reelection, Democrats Have Overplayed Their Hand

Paglia
New York Times columnist Frank Bruni moderates a 'Times Talks' discussion between legendary feminist Camille Paglia and 'Watch What Happens Live' host Andy Cohen about life in the Trump era.
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 19, 17 10:45 PM
The Trolls will try and make hay out of nothing. Everything takes time, all it needs is leadership, which President Trump has in spades. Every day the progressive trolls show up here and claim that Trump has become another globalists stooge, yet every day he actually accomplishes something that is anti globalists and conservative.

MAGA
Apr 20, 17 11:51 PM appended by 27dan
Still not tired of winning
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 20, 17 11:51 PM
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States"

obama's first lie as he began destroying the greatest country that has ever existed
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Apr 22, 17 11:05 AM
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Good Luck Marine Le Pen
Apr 22, 17 6:54 PM appended by joe hampton
Le Pen On Paris Attack: "Nothing Is Being Done, Citizens Are Not Safe"
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 22, 17 6:54 PM
How to you predict and prevent natural born citizens from acting in a random way?

How would you prevent me from sneaking up behind you and kissing you on the cheek?

You are so flawed, I will pray for you.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (424), southampton on Apr 22, 17 7:34 PM
The reality according to Pavarotti’s family is that there was no friendship. According to The Independent, the family said in a statement during the presidential campaign, “As members of his immediate family, we would like to recall that the values of brotherhood and solidarity which Luciano Pavarotti expressed throughout the course of his artistic career are entirely incompatible with the world view offered by the candidate Donald Trump.”

There was no friendship there. ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 22, 17 8:00 PM
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"Fake News":

13,000 year old comet caused a "mini ice age".

CO2 rises in tandem with methane in ppm, and ppb respectively.
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 22, 17 11:04 PM
MSNBC Fake News:

Rachel Maddow Implies Widespread Anti-Socialist Protests in Venezuela are Against President Trump

Retracts Lie Online
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 23, 17 1:32 AM
More Fake News:

Trump Kentucky Campaign Chair Tim Nolan Charged With Sex Trafficking of a Minor

What is it with the GOP and their Biblical hypocrisy regarding pederasty?
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 23, 17 8:23 AM
Just look up Pizza gate and you will understand
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Apr 23, 17 10:33 AM
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You mean the debunked conspiracy theory?

Tim Nolan actually has been charged with a crime.

Just when you think they can't get any stupider...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 25, 17 2:24 PM
LePen is the only option for not just France, but Europes survival.
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 24, 17 12:54 AM
to Po Boy:

Quote:

"So as we explore this topic ad nausea, the fallacy of the original topic that Mr. Zeldin "hasn't done a thing for the East End" becomes more and more evident. The reality is Mr. Zeldin IS working diligently for the East End, even under the new parameters you've injected (i.e., pollution, erosion)"
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Yet another example of a Right-Winger finding substantiation of his specious, ideologically-driven ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 24, 17 10:59 AM
A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that since President Donald Trump took office on January 20 the number of people who believe the economy is improving is at the highest level in 15 years

MAGA
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 24, 17 12:16 PM
Them's a lot of words hat, but how many examples must one cite to refute the baseless claim Mr. Zeldin "hasn't done a thing for the East End? I think we're at four so far that meets your criteria alone.

Zeldin - coastal erosion... learn it, live it, know it....
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 24, 17 3:30 PM
For-Profit President

April 24, 2017 — A day-by-day review of President Trump's time in office shows he has used his position to expand and enrich his private businesses, lead an unprecedented corporate takeover by installing CEOs and corporate cronies at the highest levels of government and advance policies the prioritize expanding Big Business profits at the expense of the public interest.
--Public Citizen
New polling ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 24, 17 2:29 PM
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Not even remotely agreeing with any of that generalized gobbledygook June B because I've seen your foot work in action, but certainly Obama or Hillary would never do any of that enriching themselves stuff.... BAHAHAAHAHAHAHA... wait, they DID!
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Apr 24, 17 10:45 PM
Apparently you're not aware that you're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Sad.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 25, 17 11:29 AM
How's that Wall coming along?
By johnj (695), Westhampton on Apr 24, 17 2:55 PM
Americans’ Dissatisfaction With Speaker Paul Ryan, Congress Overall Is Growing, Poll Finds
Nearly three-quarters disapprove of Congress’s job performance, up 12 points since February

DUMP RYAN !
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Apr 25, 17 4:24 PM
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to Po Boy:

Quote:

"Them's a lot of words hat, but how many examples must one cite to refute the baseless claim Mr. Zeldin "hasn't done a thing for the East End? I think we're at four so far that meets your criteria alone."

Zeldin - coastal erosion... learn it, live it, know it...."
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Just one that isn’t "de minimis" would be more than enough, Po Boy.

(You might want to reacquaint yourself with the ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 25, 17 10:07 AM
Only "de minimis" in your mind hat... No doubt a nameless, faceless person, much like yourself, would readily take any opportunity to take cheap shots. But the fact remains, the Honorable Mr. Zeldin IS working hard for the East End. Whether that effort is met with success speaks more to constraints outside of Mr. Zeldin's control. than it does Mr. Zeldin. But again... he is doing everything within his power and authority on important East End and District 1 initiatives.
Apr 25, 17 10:55 AM appended by Po Boy
Question for you hat. Did the fictitious person go the real hearing to provide real feedback and input during the comment period? “Since my first day in Congress 18 months ago, I have been fighting hard to secure the many victories coming to NY-1 as a result of the draft GRR about to be publicly released. I would like to thank the Army Corps of Engineers for their responsiveness and attention to detail in ensuring that the priorities of my constituents received the highest consideration. I look forward to the coming months when district residents have the opportunity to weigh in with their feedback and I look forward to the years ahead as we witness a massive investment of our federal tax dollars being returned to our congressional district in a way never witnessed before.”
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 25, 17 10:55 AM
to Po Boy:

Quote:

"No doubt a nameless, faceless person, much like yourself, would readily take any opportunity to take cheap shots. But the fact remains, the Honorable Mr. Zeldin IS ... doing everything within his power and authority on important East End and District 1 initiatives."
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No need to become discourteous just because your argument is shown to be bankrupt, Po Boy.

Putting aside this behavior, your inference that ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 25, 17 11:32 AM
No discourteousness intended nor portrayed hat, I've purposely avoided that level contrary to taunts of such. The facts speak clearly on their own merit. I understand you don't like Mr. Zeldin, and that's fine. But to say he "hasn't done a thing for the East End?" is simply not factual. And yes, I believe he is taking every opportunity to do everything within his power and authority on important East End and District 1 initiatives. Whether that supports your naked BELIEF is yes, you guessed it, ...more
Apr 25, 17 1:04 PM appended by Po Boy
"As co-chair of the Long Island Sound Caucus," Congressman Zeldin continued, "I’m calling on my colleagues to help ensure that the Long Island Sound Program and National Estuary Program are fully supported and funded in the upcoming appropriations process; and certainly not eliminated. Last Congress, working across the aisle, I helped reverse President Obama’s proposed 22% cut in funding for the Long Island Sound. Working on a bipartisan basis, I also helped lead the effort to successfully reauthorize the National Estuary Program, which authorized the $26.5 million in funding that was approved for the National Estuary Program. We must now redouble our efforts. Regardless of who is in the White House, the Constitution puts government funding strictly under the control of Congress through the appropriations process. We expect this week to see at least initial public drafts of the Administration’s budget request - and that's all it is, a request. It has no force of law or legislation. Just like the bipartisan coalition that stopped President Obama’s proposed cut to the LI Sound program, I will continue to work alongside Democrats and Republicans in our region to secure this important environmental funding."
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 25, 17 1:04 PM
Poll: 96% of Trump Supporters Would Vote for Him Again,

MAGA STOCKS SMASH RECORDS...
GREAT AGAIN: Housing in 'strongest seller's market ever'...
Border rancher: Illegal crossings down 90% since Trump...

MAGA
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 25, 17 10:27 AM
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Poll? No surprises there. No cure for stupid.
Housing markets are cyclical; illegal crossings dropping for months. Nothing whatever to do with the Failing POTUS.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 25, 17 11:53 AM
LONG LIVE DONALD TRUMP !!!
By pw herman (727), southampton on Apr 25, 17 12:04 PM
TRUMP

Yea BABY !
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Apr 25, 17 2:10 PM
mr trump hasn't even been in office 100 days yet and already june is saying that he is failing. lol, pleasssse for goodness sake.

It took democrats a year or more to pass obongocare. now the republicans are supposed to pass health care repeal, lower corporate tax rates and a secured border in less than 100 days?

this is getting ridiculous how the left wing radicals here are doing anything they can to sink president trump
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Apr 25, 17 2:17 PM
Sanctuary city funding order blocked.

FAIL.
Apr 25, 17 7:50 PM appended by Mr. Z
"I'm not a policeman, I'm a princess." LOL
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 25, 17 7:50 PM
Oh hon, the self-sinking Fraud-In-Chief needs no help from anyone.
Total control of all branches and hasn't made a single deal. Just one debacle after embarrassing debacle.
Btw, your soul brother 27 Dan seems to think trump has the border
90% under control. It is to laugh. Just so's you won't be wasting time waiting, there will be no wall, and there will be no repeal or replace of Obamacare. Never in all the years did they even work on a replacement (it's HARD, remember?), and ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 25, 17 11:25 PM
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Junezy said - " there will be no wall, and there will be no repeal or replace of Obamacare."

Mark my words you will eat yours !

As for the rest of your comment, Neil Gorsuch Was Worth the Entire Election! We get one more conservative judge and it's over for the radical left for a long long time.

MAGA!
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 26, 17 12:24 AM
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The overwhelming assumption was that the race was Hillary Clinton’s for the taking, and the real question wasn’t how sweeping her November victory would be, but how far out to sea her wave would send Trump. Today, it’s Trump who occupies the White House and Clinton who’s drifting out to sea, an outcome that arrived not just as an embarrassment for the press (and HHS) but as an indictment. In some profound way, the election made clear, the national media just doesn’t ...more
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 26, 17 12:48 AM
News flash: The stolen SC seat you reference was under control of the right wing long before your boy was in the picture. All he did re: Gorsuch was choose the most stereotypically looking judge from the list put in front of him. Chosen for his central casting looks ala The Apprentice. Total sham.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 26, 17 11:59 AM
June B...just to clarify, by "stolen SC seat" and "under control of the right wing" you mean... according to the Constitution, specifically, Article 2...yes?
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Apr 26, 17 1:10 PM
Every GREAT American president was compassionate. This lardass narcissistic lying jackass has no idea what makes America great. And his choice of a judge, the only one of seven, who ruled in favor of a corporation over a truck driver who almost froze to death reveals the same lack of humanity that the braggart in the oval office demonstrates. Makes it harder to get a student loan, makes it harder to get a mortgage, makes it harder for Medicare and Medicaid patients to sue for malpractice, cuts ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 26, 17 7:54 PM
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President McHale (where's the armada?) oops, I mean the Tangerine toddler was the braggadocio who said this was going to happen instantly. Who knew this stuff was so complicated? He can't really do tax reform till he has passed health care. You should all sleep easy with the orange orangutan when it comes to foreign policy. He has after all watched the movies "Patton" and "MacArthur," which makes him smarter than all the generals! By the way your down payment is due on the wall, Mexico is not paying, ...more
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 25, 17 4:53 PM
No way JOSA, It was Cryin Paul Ryan and his days are numbered.

LONG LIVE TRUMP !
By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 25, 17 5:16 PM
to Po Boy:

I did ask you not to post yet another example of a program of incidental relevance to the East End. The latest is no more convincing as proof of The Honorable Lee’s interest than your four previous ones. On the other hand, one aimed at preventing the Atlantic Ocean from rolling over us or at stopping our waterways from becoming lifeless bogs - - - now that WOULD be probative. (Got one of those?)

Your alternative explanation of Zeldin’s failure (to wit, ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 26, 17 8:16 AM
Hogwash! Securing funding is not.... ineffectual. Being engaged in issues is not... ineffectual. Actively lobbying and promoting action is not.... ineffectual. HA... some would say that if mother nature wanted the Atlantic Ocean to roll over on us it will do so, and there isn't a darn thing you, me, Mr. Zeldin or he predecessor could do about it. If you want to halt the rise of the oceans, I'd suggest the former President Obama as your ideal District 1 candidate for that's what he promised to do. ...more
Apr 26, 17 9:09 AM appended by Po Boy
Lee Zeldin - March 13, 2017 - "Co-Chair of the Long Island Sound Caucus and a founding member of the bipartisan Congressional Estuary Caucus, joined by local elected officials and environmental advocates, hosted a press conference today calling for full support of the Long Island Sound Program and National Estuary Program to ensure both are fully supported and funded in the upcoming appropriations process; and not eliminated."
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 26, 17 9:09 AM
In another thread JuneZ made the assertion that Marine LePen is a facist and has failed to multiple posts asking for some facts to back it up. Since the rest of our resident leftists are keeping up to date here, perhaps one of you will take a shot at it? How about it HH, Mets Fan, Mr Z?
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 26, 17 8:23 AM
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A new “Daybreak” poll on President Donald Trump’s first 100 days released Thursday by the USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times reveals that a majority of Americans say Trump is keeping his promises.

The USC/L.A. Times poll was one of the only major public polls that predicted Donald Trump would win the 2016 election.

The new poll, focusing on Trump’s first 100 days in office, reports: “ 53% of those surveyed said that Trump is keeping his promises.
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 26, 17 3:26 PM
Name one. Just one.
By johnj (695), Westhampton on Apr 26, 17 3:31 PM
Yep, he promised he wouldn't give a crap about poisoning the environment. He's keeping that one.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 26, 17 4:52 PM
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to Po Boy:

Quote:

"HA... some would say that if mother nature wanted the Atlantic Ocean to roll over on us it will do so ... "
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Thanks for yet a THIRD rationalization of The Honorable Lee’s inertia. It’s not that he’s disinterested; it’s not that he’s incompetent; it’s that he just doesn’t think that we’re worth the candle.

Thanks, Lee!

(Although one ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 26, 17 4:04 PM
I'm not surprised you'd misrepresent my reference to "some people" as the position of Mr.Zeldin hat. The "some people" I was referring to were other posters in the thread where you chastised the SHP for the Zeldin "puff piece" which essentially lauded his work and support for coastal erosion - you know, the very initiatives you've repeatedly said he "hasn't done a thing for".
Apr 26, 17 10:28 PM appended by Po Boy
Those posters, who would likely agree with you on Mr. Zeldin in general thought he was wasting money pursuing the very initiatives you say he doesn't do a thing for - citing essentially of Mother Nature on coastal erosion issues. It's an interesting glimpse into what really is nothing more than your outlandish ideologue agenda defended with pure hyperbole.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 26, 17 10:28 PM
CRICKETS, awesome
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 26, 17 4:48 PM
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I could really give a **** less about France. The carnival sideshow is quite sufficient in this country.

BTW, for reference U.S. Criminal Code (Title 18, Section 1001) provides that knowingly falsifying or concealing a material fact is a felony which may result in fines and/or up to five years imprisonment. And, Michael Flynn is not in handcuffs...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 26, 17 8:05 PM
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Two things: You snap your finger and think any self-respecting person is going to comply with your demand? The enlightened know it's a waste of time to talk to a gorilla.
How about simply responding with a defense of your opinion if you disagree? That's how civilized discourse is supposed to be conducted.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 26, 17 8:07 PM
June Bug lectures on the conduct of civil(ized) discourse.

...SMH
By loading... (511), quiogue on Apr 26, 17 10:28 PM
LOL Its a waste of time because you are losing at every turn

THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP
By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 27, 17 12:47 AM
Another broken promise, NAFTA is okay now with the orange cheetoh. Yea, he is some shrewd negotiator. At what point do you right wing nuts get tired of being played for the biggest suckers.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 27, 17 5:46 AM
Sad!
By johnj (695), Westhampton on Apr 27, 17 9:42 AM
The New York Times cited a senior administration official Wednesday saying that President Donald Trump is preparing an executive order to pull the United States from the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

We need to tear up NAFTA. Send WTO packing. Treaties were negotiated by globalist gangsters.
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 27, 17 7:45 AM
Fake news.

Here's the real tweet from your furor himself:
@realDonaldTrump
I received calls from the President of Mexico and the Prime Minister of Canada asking to renegotiate NAFTA rather than terminate. I agreed..
By johnj (695), Westhampton on Apr 27, 17 9:55 AM
The child liar-in-chief promised he was going to do this as soon as he was in office. At what point do you take him to task for his ridiculous campaign promises. Here's another one that isn't happening. Balancing the budget and cutting the deficit. Looks like he'll be adding to it. Just a T.V. show for ratings and Drumpfs own bottom line. He doesn't understand any cause and effect of his policies. How you believe this loser is competent defies explanation.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 27, 17 1:30 PM
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to Po Boy:

Hardly a misrepresentation, Po Boy. Rather a misconstruction of a poorly written reply on your part. Rereading that reply, it STILL seems that you are proffering the futility of coastal erosion control as yet another reason for The Honorable Lee’s inertia regarding it.

Nonetheless, I accept your explanation. That leaves one less reason (beyond disinterest and ineptitude) for the Honorable Lee’s failure to accomplish anything substantive in the remediation ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 27, 17 10:01 AM
Clearly no inference to the Honorable Mr. Zeldin hat, poorly written on my part is debatable. Crystal clear however is that you chose to infer a linkage from the reference "some would say that if mother nature...". Perhaps it is preconceived beliefs on your part that could be at issue hat. Mr. Zeldin has not even remotely subscribed to any of the issues as being unsolvable nor unimportant given his arduous efforts and results in securing funding on many fronts. In fact he has continuously led efforts, ...more
Apr 27, 17 10:49 AM appended by Po Boy
With just the one example alone of securing $1.16 Billion in funding, only a rhetoric filled ideologue would suggest disinterest and ineptitude given Mr. Zeldin's engagement, action and successes on countless initiatives important to District 1 and the East End.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 27, 17 10:49 AM
But what is this... ?

The Algemeiner reports: JNS.org – Israeli archaeologists announced on Wednesday the discovery of a 1,500-year-old mother-of-pearl tablet etched with a menorah in the ancient town of Caesarea.
According to Israel Antiques Authority archaeologist Peter Gendelman, the tablet, dating back to the late Roman-Byzantine period of the 4th or 5th centuries A.D., “points to clear Jewish presence at Caesarea during this period.”
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 27, 17 2:11 PM
to Po Boy:

Again (Is it for the sixth time now?), you cite a program which is only tangentially relevant to the East End’s critical needs as it it were significant. It isn't. Judging by the notional response that Montauk residents have received to their request for beach renourishment, East Enders will be just as naked to hurricanes after the program as they are now.

By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 27, 17 5:10 PM
If you're counting hat, count accurately. It's the 6th? time you've ignored factual evidence which refutes the bogus claim that the Honorable Mr/Zeldin "hasn't done a thing for the East End."

Here's the latest from today:Washington, DC – Congressman Lee Zeldin (R, NY-1) announced today that he has just reintroduced his bipartisan bill in the House of Representatives to prevent the sale of Plum Island by the federal government to the highest bidder.
Apr 27, 17 11:19 PM appended by Po Boy
The Plum Island Preservation Act (H.R. 2182).H.R. 2182, will suspend laws passed in 2008 and 2011 that mandated the public sale of Plum Island by the federal government to the highest bidder. HEY... wasn't Democrat Tim Bishop in office then? You supported him, right hat? Of course you did.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Apr 27, 17 11:19 PM
The Office of the UN High Commissioner on Human Rights in Geneva informs the trump administration in a 5-page letter dated February 2, 2017 that repeal of Obamacare without adequate substitution for the roughly 30 million Americans who would lose coverage would be a violation of several international conventions that bind the US.

Said letter was to be sent to the majority and minority leaders of both houses.

The Dept. of Health and Human Services had the letter but never shared ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 27, 17 10:05 AM
Someone needs help
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Apr 27, 17 3:44 PM
Now that you've surfaced JuneZ, please prove your statement that Marine LePen is a facist, thanks.As to your post above , health care is not denied to anyone in this country, just go to Southampton Hospital's ER and take a good look, comprende?
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 28, 17 5:49 AM
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Ryano must go, he's terrible and not a leader. He had eight years to work on healthcare...and then waits til the last minute...and tries to ram some globalist garbage down our throats. He must to be replaced as Speaker. Trump is wasting no time...he's a dynamo. I have faith in the man. He's getting things done. It's been a great first 100 days. Who really gives a damn what Junezy and Mets think !

Hillary lost and Boy, do I sleep well knowing THE DONALD is at the helm.......
By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 28, 17 7:23 AM
Oh, is that where you get your chemotherapy, your routine lab work, your surgery, your.....? The issue is coverage, not treatment. And aren't you in the chorus that rails against having to pay for the treatment of those without coverage? I'd wager you're one of the lead singers.
And may I suggest you see someone about that bad case of Tourette's Syndrome? And I also see that you still haven't learned how to correctly spell "facist".
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 28, 17 12:11 PM
You should be ashamed of throwing around illnesses that many people suffer in your lunatic frenzy. There but for the grace of G_d go you.
By Taz (316), East Quogue on Apr 28, 17 12:22 PM
You should be ashamed of throwing around illnesses that many people suffer in your lunatic frenzy. There but for the grace of G_d go you.
By Taz (316), East Quogue on Apr 28, 17 12:22 PM
No JuneZ, I pay my own way. The indigent receive their care with no cost to them. Now about your Marine LePen comment, care to prove your assertion ? Or is snark all you have to add to the discussion?
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 28, 17 12:31 PM
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A perfect example of why it's pointless to demonstrate or prove anything to you when your default position is always to ignore, gloss over, or distort.

The (incomplete) care the indigent receive in the ER is passed on to you and me.

Do you not get that the issue is not treatment, but rather, violation of international conventions to which we are bound?
Are we correct to interpret your assertion re: guaranteed access to treatment in an emergency room as equal to access to ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 28, 17 1:16 PM
to JunZy you want a Cadillac plan get a job with benefits or dig deep into your pocket "The issue is coverage, not treatment" That is were we disagree! No one should be turned away if sick or injured, beyond that its just plain old re distribution of wealth "obama tax"
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Apr 28, 17 5:27 PM
International conventions? Really? Conventions brought to us by the tin pot dictators populating the UN? Sorry, that's just foolish. now about your Marine LePen comment that you have been dodging for damn near a week?
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 29, 17 9:38 AM
You called her a fascist, can you back that statement up or all you full of excrement ?
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 29, 17 5:17 PM
JOhn J: It's "fuhrer" not :furor" stupid. Instead of posting on this site spewing bile 560 times maybe go to night school and get that equivalency diploma.
By fire11 (272), east hampton on Apr 27, 17 10:17 PM
I want to thank you for correcting me sir. I guess I've just been in a "furor" over the "fuhrer"-in-chief. I actually, this is more work than my previous life. I thought it would be easier.

And on this great day, I am reminded of a song by the late, great Ms. Sharon Jones, may her soul rest in peace:

"100 days, 100 nights
To know a man's heart
100 days, 100 nights
To know a man's heart
And a little more
Before he knows his own

You know a man
Can ...more
By johnj (695), Westhampton on Apr 28, 17 9:23 AM
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"For a day comes
When his true, his true self unfolds"

....looking forward to it, we are sick and tired of trying to appease the globalists.

we won handily because your candidate was flawed and the media tired to control the people, to the winner goes the spoils, now please sit down and shut up
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Apr 28, 17 5:21 PM
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You should be proud Erin. How does it feel to have rich, white men legislate YOUR body. Some day you can explain to your grand-kids why you thought Drumpf was smart enough to rid our country of regulations protecting the environment and that was going to be okay. What's the matter you don't like dissenting opinions that make you look idiots backing the tangerine toddler. At what point is he going to accomplish anyhthing he said he would?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 28, 17 6:28 PM
Honey chil', his true self already done unfolded. Must be that you've been sleeping if you can't yet see what a lying, corrupt fraud you voted for who doesn't belong anywhere near the White House.
You can't even see the irony when you refer to a winner getting the spoils. That'd be him, his spawn, and his rich friends wallowing in an historically unprecedented mega-heist.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 28, 17 7:08 PM
to MF:
...how 'BOUT them Mets??
Seems those rich, white male owners could legislate an occasional win, no?

At least Erin may actually HAVE grand-kids to explain things to, no thanks to your ilk.
And the 'tangerine toddler' is getting plenty done, much to the chagrin of his juvenile accuser(s).

JB:
The lying, corrupt fraud LOST !! ...and TRUMP is in the White House.
Apr 28, 17 7:39 PM appended by loading...
TRUMP is in the White House! TRUMP is in the White House! TRUMP is in the White House! ...rolls off the tongue quite nicely. Try it!
By loading... (511), quiogue on Apr 28, 17 7:39 PM
Indeed
By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 28, 17 7:49 PM
You mean the whiny orange tub who "misses his old life" and who's complaining that he's surprised to find himself in a job that's hard, and that involves a lot of work? Who for all that "hard work" (between golf rounds) hasn't a single legislative win, and the lowest approval rating of any president at this point? Can you imagine any other world leader uttering anything as pathetic? Or one who has played golf 19 times in 99 days; once every 5.2 days? Or one unconstitutionally using his office ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 28, 17 8:20 PM
You mean the whiny orange tub who "misses his old life" and who's complaining that he's surprised to find himself in a job that's hard, and that involves a lot of work? Who for all that "hard work" (between golf rounds) hasn't a single legislative win, and the lowest approval rating of any president at this point? Can you imagine any other world leader uttering anything as pathetic? Or one who has played golf 19 times in 99 days; once every 5.2 days? Or one unconstitutionally using his office ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 28, 17 8:20 PM
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You sound just like the child liar-in-chief. You sound like a desperate loser backing an incompetent loser. How about it Erin, you like rich white republican men telling you what you can do with your body. What has he accomplished? Where's your installment payment for the wall. Repeal and Replace, What happened? He has both houses, and couldn't get it done, what a loser. How embarrassed are you that you back this classless, stupid, lazy excuse for a man. Didn't your parents teach you how to act ...more
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 28, 17 8:31 PM
Yes Mets, It's to bad we could not have the cougher in chief, the cackling lying under oath crook with the cankels and the stained dress.

You lost now deal with it !

How about those Yankees tonight!

By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 29, 17 12:00 AM
This has nothing to do with Hillary. Nice try to deflect from the child-liar-in chief you support. Isn't it embarrassing that this is the type of man who has the worst characteristics and attributes you could possibly have. Braggadocio, liar, lazy coward. Where's your installment for the wall? Who knew this job would be so tough? What loser could possibly say such stuff and you supporting him says a lot about your character.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 29, 17 3:09 AM
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You rooting for the Yankees doesn't make you a winner, you will always be a loser.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 29, 17 3:21 AM
your correct it has nothing to do with Hillary, This election was a referendum on Obama
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 29, 17 10:29 AM
If you're talking about a referendum on President Obama's performance, look to the election of 2012 when the American people gave him a second term.
The despicable trump whose years-long birther lie empowered the white supremacists whose dream it was/is to remove any trace of a black family in the White House---a whole different kind of "referendum".
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 29, 17 12:34 PM
"white supremacists"? Are you suggesting that's what Trump voters are??! You should realize that using the race card is just a last result for a beaten liberal.
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 30, 17 7:28 AM
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Not a Black family but a socialist , globalist, wealth redistributing narcissist
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on May 1, 17 12:04 AM
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To Po Boy:

Plum Island.

Hoo-Whee!

Congratulations, Po Boy! - - - At last!

You finally found a topic in which The Honorable Lee has expressed interest that is uniquely important to East Enders as well (rather than to Nutmeggers, NYCityites, Nassau residents, and The Honorable Lee’s preferred up-island constituents [in descending order of emolument.])

That’s great. Unhappily for you, it’s still de minimis
.
First off, the status ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 28, 17 11:04 PM
HH, do you really think that beach replenishment is an intelligent use of taxpayer funds? Sand is pumped onto the beach only to be washed away during the next good storm. If the beach front homeowners fund the projects themselves God bless them.
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on Apr 30, 17 9:23 AM
to bigfresh:

What "I" think is that the East End is doomed to be reclaimed by the sea. Sooner rather than later thanks to the fact that climate-change denying Luddites like The Donald and The Honorable Lee are in charge.

However, we may be able to eke out a few more years if we undertake beach renourishment on a grand scale (as was done so successfully in Miami Beach.)

Is that an "intelligent" use of taxpayer funds? "I" think so. This is my home. It is priceless. ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 30, 17 3:25 PM
Congratulations, Po Boy! - - - At last!
You finally found a topic in which The Honorable Lee has expressed interest that is uniquely important to East Enders as well (rather than to Nutmeggers, NYCityites, Nassau residents, and The Honorable Lee’s preferred up-island constituents [in descending order of emolument.])
May 1, 17 8:10 AM appended by Po Boy
Ahhh yes... uniquely important to East Enders... contrary to your belief hat, Mr. Zeldin and I share the belief that water pollution and quality, 9/11 first responder health care, legislation providing resources for Long Island Sound Restoration; commercial fishing, and tourism, the National Estuary Program established by the Clean Water Act and grants funding to state and --->LOCAL<--- programs which promote water quality and wetland restoration and Fire Island to Montauk Point dredging, erosion, beach nourishment and shoreline projects are pretty darn unique to the East End.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on May 1, 17 8:10 AM
They're all full of crap.

Was Lexington, KY "fake news"?
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Apr 29, 17 12:55 AM
What media was coercing you Erin. Was it Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Briebart, Alex Jones, or Fox news?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Apr 29, 17 3:24 AM
Only a day before journalists are set to meet at their annual self-congratulatory dinner, a new poll finds that their intended customers, the American people, don’t trust them. Indeed, the poll finds Americans trust the Trump White House to tell the truth more than they do the media.

The poll sponsored by Morning Consult unsurprisingly found a partisan outcome with its questions. But what should concern the media is that independents also said they trust the White House more than ...more
Apr 29, 17 10:20 AM appended by They call me
We The People Trust in Trump. We are so grateful to have a tough Leader and a true Patriot at the helm of America. President Trump will right the ship!
By They call me (2174), southampton on Apr 29, 17 10:20 AM
TRUMP is for the American people we see through the B S that they the (democrats ) are trying to stir up. Trump will make this once great nation GREAT again. Leave the democrats sucking their thumbs.

I am so proud of President Trump, thank you for fighting for ALL that's wrong with our Nation.

MAGA !
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 29, 17 10:28 AM
Mets fan need a binky again ?
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Apr 29, 17 10:40 AM
It gets personal when I hit home about the loser you support. You only embarrass yourself and our great nation with the tangerine toddler in charge. Where's your installment payment for the wall?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on May 1, 17 11:41 AM
The secure fence act of 2006 called for construction of 700 miles of fencing and enhanced surveillance technology, such as unmanned drones, ground-based sensors, satellites, radar coverage and cameras. Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush. So Trump is now asking for that money to build that wall.

Problem with that Mets ?
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on May 1, 17 3:06 PM
"Are you a Democrat?"

"You are?"

"Well, say hello to my machete!!"


Man Accused Of Attack At Transylvania University Arraigned
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 1, 17 3:40 PM
Transylvania ???
By They call me (2174), southampton on May 1, 17 5:00 PM
What happened to MEXICO paying for the wall? How big a sap are you?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on May 1, 17 7:02 PM
Yes, transylvania. Derived from two latin words, trans meaning "across" and sylvania meaning "forest".

There's quite a few more than the "famous" one.

The stupid just burns.
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 1, 17 7:13 PM

ESPIONAGE
Sources: Boris Epshteyn Paid Russian Hackers For Both Team Trump and FSB

Exclusive: Sources linked to the intelligence community say it is believed that a Russian hacker of the election, Pyotr Levashov, was paid directly by Boris Epshteyn on behalf of both Trump and the FSB.

Sources say the indictment on April 20th of Levashov in the US district court in Connecticut (where an FBI counterintelligence division is based) represents the first concrete move in court ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 29, 17 4:39 PM
Correct spelling of blog source of ESPIONAGE report: patribotics. blog
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 29, 17 4:44 PM
here we go with the 3 page cut and pastes again
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Apr 30, 17 12:49 AM
On behalf of the carpal tunnel society of America we want to commend June z on her prolific cutting and pasting clinic. Had she typed all of this out she would be just another arm band wearing statistic
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Apr 30, 17 7:15 AM
to even flow, joe hampon, Undocumented Democrat (et al.):

Only the ignorami could find affirmation in the fact that their dialectical opponents post references to authority while they just blow their incendiary bushwa out of their ears.

Welcome to Right-Wing Ideology 101!

Here's a reference to define their dim-wittedness:

"A fact is something which is testable and verifiable by a variety of means and a variety of people. We are confusing opinions and facts; beliefs ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Apr 30, 17 10:36 PM
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And oblivious that they're captives/tools of those whose power and/or economic interests depend on their having been (intentionally) molded into idiocy.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Apr 30, 17 11:27 PM
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You are so correct... you must be looking into a mirror......
By Taz (316), East Quogue on May 1, 17 11:27 AM
And you are so obtuse.
Failing to understand that the subject of the exchange is the useful idiocy of the right wing indicates sub-par reading comprehension thereby proving my point.
Oh, I just now see you 'Liked' my comment. Validation from the confused is appreciated, too.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on May 1, 17 11:59 AM
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President Donald Trump's interview with "Face the Nation" was awsome !!!

My prayers have been answered. A president who stands up to the lying bullies in the mainstream media. Thank you Donald!



Apr 30, 17 6:06 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
TRUMP TO CBS’S DICKERSON: ‘I LOVE YOUR SHOW — I CALL IT DEFACE THE NATION’
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Apr 30, 17 11:59 PM
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Everything he says is an unconscious expression of his id. It is trump who is defacing the nation.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on May 1, 17 10:53 AM
President Donald J Trump

MAGA!
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on May 1, 17 3:12 PM
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Sure.

And the idolatry of a man responsible for the "Trail of Tears" is GREAT.

Are people really this stupid, or do they practice at it?
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 1, 17 3:37 PM
WTF are you talking about now ???

Trail of Tears definition. The route along which the United States government forced several tribes of Native Americans, including the Cherokees, Seminoles, Chickasaws, Choctaws, and Creeks, to migrate to reservations west of the Mississippi River in the 1820s, 1830s, and 1840s.
May 1, 17 4:54 PM appended by They call me
Yes Ditch, in response to your observation below, You have not been around long enough to know It but Z is a self proclaimed botanist
By They call me (2174), southampton on May 1, 17 4:54 PM
Looks like Mr Z is hitting the Medicine pipe again
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on May 1, 17 5:04 PM
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LMAO!!
By toes in the water (544), southampton on May 1, 17 5:10 PM
Do you have any idea what you're blathering about?

Andrew Jackson not only signed the Indian Removal Act of 1830, he s*** all over the wishes of not only Thomas Jefferson, but George Washington as well. They wished to see the natives Title to their native land not only respected, but that they over time would assimilate into American culture. At least TWO founders of this nation were on record believing that the natives had more right to "American soil" than Eastern immigrants did.

I ...more
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 1, 17 5:26 PM
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The ignorance is commensurate with that of their orange idol. No idea of history, and not even ashamed to reveal the level of idiocy.
Their idol refers to Frederick Douglass in a way that shows he has no idea of who he was or whether he is living or dead, has Andrew Jackson alive during the Civil War, claims no one asks why the Civil War was fought, and whines that he can't get anything done b/c the rules of democracy are "archaic". Good God almighty. The stupid it hurts.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on May 1, 17 6:21 PM
How about some mighty history?

"What, to the American slave, is your 4th of July? I answer; a day that reveals to him, more than all other days in the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him, your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sound of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your denunciation of tyrants brass fronted impudence; your shout of liberty and equality, hollow mockery; ...more
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 1, 17 6:31 PM
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MAGA, we're the laughingstock of the world. Bad enough you voted for this incompetent loser, now you seen him in action. I didn't think this job would be so tough. I didn't think this health care could be so complicated. Plays golf every weekend, hasn't been near a church since his phony appearance at the inauguration. Two thirds of the country disapprove of him.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on May 2, 17 5:52 AM
You will need to cross the canal in Hampton Bays before you can explain how everyone in the world is feeling.

You're another one. When you're happy again, we've got major problems.
By even flow (523), East Hampton on May 2, 17 6:36 AM
Just read! Laughingstock of the World. Why I even have to post to say what an incompetent boob Drumpf is, he does it all by himself. Pathetic that you don't have any objectivity. What has he accomplished that he said he would?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on May 2, 17 9:28 AM
What an embarrassment to this country is the orange cheetoh. Saw the interview, what a loser. How did he get a high school diploma? People are laughing at you trump supporters all around the world! what a bunch of saps. Tell me again what Andrew Jackson thought of the Civil War. What an incompetent child liar-in-chief. Gutless coward wouldn't admit that Obama wiretapped him now.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on May 1, 17 7:08 PM
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We're discussing the same ***hole who calls Senator Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas".

By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 1, 17 7:26 PM
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Sounds like 2 posters just declared themselves an enemy combatant against the Good Ole U.S.A. God Bless President Trump.
By pw herman (727), southampton on May 2, 17 8:14 AM
to Po Boy:

Wait! You forgot The Honorable Lee's website homage to the "Congressional Art Competition for the First Congressional District":

It is no wonder that it takes pride of place therein. It's wonderfully homey and, most importantly, costs the feds absolutely NOTHING. (The Honorable Lee's No. 1 concern [at least as regards the East End.])

No doubt should you, Po Boy, find yourself clinging to a bit of lumber that formerly was a part of your bedroom wall as you ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on May 1, 17 10:54 PM
You should put that in a sign and march in Sag Harbor:

DON'T SUPPORT THE ARTS!

YOU COULD GET SUCKED OUT TO SEA IN A RETREATING HURRICANE TIDAL SURGE WHILE CLINGING TO A BIT OF LUMBER THAT WAS FORMERLY PART OF YOUR BEDROOM WALL!!
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on May 2, 17 6:40 AM
"The rest of us wish that he would have asked the feds for money for (Water Mill's) beach renourishment."

Last I checked hat, Water Mill fell somewhere between Fire Island and Montauk, and was considered in current Army Corp of Engineers prioritization of needs as part of the Fire Island to Montauk Stabilization Project to which Mr. Zeldin successfully increased funding by 48%. This effort went toward beach and waterfront nourishment on the Great South Bay, Moriches Inlet, Fire Island, ...more
May 2, 17 8:05 AM appended by Po Boy
Since you mention hurricane hat, one has to wonder what we should do with the aforementioned Shinnecok Inlet under your dramatic parameters. I suppose we will anxiously await for a Democrat to regain office so we can begin work to have the Inlet filled in to roll back the damage from the 1938 Long Island Express hurricane. Can't wait!
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on May 2, 17 8:05 AM
to Po Boy:

One notes that after a daring foray into a program of actually unique interest to East Enders, (Plum Island) you have retreated to yet another reiteration of a fulsome (but as yet inchoate) program in which the East End is but a minor player, and, if the Army Corp's "consideration" of Montauk residents' renourishment request is an example of its fulfillment, even less of one than the program's description would suggest.
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on May 2, 17 6:34 PM
I would disagree hat your assertion that water pollution and quality, legislation providing resources for Long Island Sound Restoration; commercial fishing, and tourism, the National Estuary Program established by the Clean Water Act and which promote water quality and wetland restoration and Fire Island to Montauk Point dredging, erosion, beach nourishment and shoreline projects are not unique interest to the East End.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on May 3, 17 8:02 AM
Reader Quiz:

Who said "Only the ignorami could find affirmation in the fact that their dialectical opponents post references to authority while they just blow their incendiary bushwa out of their ears."?

hahahahaha
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on May 2, 17 6:42 AM
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JuneZ, have you conveniently forgotten your assertion that Marine LePen is a FASCIST and your decision not to address a request to prove it? Regurgitating Huffington Puffington talking points is par for the course.
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on May 2, 17 8:18 AM
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It is time We The People take matters into our own hands and self fund this wall

Please visit The America First Foundation

To hell with congress check out the Facebook page

MAGA !
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on May 2, 17 5:36 PM
“I don't take Trump seriously,” a senior executive with “one of the country’s six largest banks” told Reuters. “I’m listening less and less.” According to reporters Lawrence Delevingne, Svea Herbst-Bayliss, and Olivia Oran, the comments “were echoed by at least a dozen institutional investors and bank executives who spoke to Reuters.”

Joining the pile-on was this from PricewaterhouseCoopers, per Reuters:

"PwC predicts ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on May 2, 17 8:46 PM
"I can’t think of anything more stupid."

~ Sir Richard Branson on Trump’s coal plans


IMHO, give Trump time. The more stupid will pan out.
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 2, 17 9:10 PM
You mean establishment euros who have been buying politicians for eons don't like Trump?

You'll have to first establish why that's bad before we take your refuse engineer opinion of it.
By even flow (523), East Hampton on May 3, 17 4:46 AM
Good morning everyone, hows it going there little z... congratulations on getting past the first 3 months of President Trump... only another 93 to go fella.

By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on May 3, 17 8:41 AM
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Trump will be President until January 2025. The raging protesters will be tired out by then.


YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB SO FAR TUNE OUT THE NOISE
AND MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN PRESIDENT TRUMP !

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on May 3, 17 12:12 PM
to Po Boy:

Quote:

"I would disagree hat your assertion that water pollution ... etc. ... are not unique interest to the East End."
---------------------------------------

The devil is in the details, Po Boy. Montauk residents will know whereof I speak.

If The Honorable Lee's record is predictive, when it comes time for that grandly described program to be translated into "shovels to work" out here, the effect will be as insignificant.
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on May 3, 17 8:49 AM
Come on hat, Mr. Zeldin secured a 48% increase is beach restoration type work to the tune of $1.16 billion for beach and waterfront nourishment on the Great South Bay, Moriches Inlet, Fire Island, and Westhampton barrier islands, among other locations. If you want to talk Montauk specifically, look to the continued erosion protection along Potato Road and Downtown Montauk. If you want details, they are included in the Army Corp General Reevaluation Report.
May 3, 17 11:36 AM appended by Po Boy
If you want to further talk "the effect will be as insignificant," some might say (note Mr. Zeldin isn't mentioned specifically in this point) that Long Island is nothing more than a giant sand bar and there isn't much to be done to stop natural encroachment.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on May 3, 17 11:36 AM
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Seems to me that small pants size is trying his darnedest to get all the progressives and far left left lemmings on this site to absolve him of his historic failure to predict the out come of the campaign and forget what a failure little Timmy's latest candidacy was.

There was an election Tim Bishop LOST !

Your new representative is LEE ZELDEN ... now sit down already.

It's OVER. I realize that posting repetitive, baseless allegations disparaging Hillary and everyone who ...more
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on May 3, 17 12:06 PM
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Trump voters don't answer calls from pollsters & media clowns, that's why polls are seriously skewed.

Fake polls helped Bishop and the Clinton Crime Family think they would win!

Hey, Alt left, Progressives, Feminists, Antifa, Union thugs, The media, the Campus snowflakes, HHS, and Mets I guess you all must still have black and white televisions at home to have not noticed how red the map was ?

It does not matter if you live in a Red state or Blue you all are in a state ...more
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on May 3, 17 12:25 PM
HH and company are living proof that liberalism is a mental disorder. Just get over it and get on with your lives.
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on May 3, 17 6:09 PM
You mean as opposed to the monstrous sub-human right wing attacking Jimmy Kimmel? Get real, bub.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on May 3, 17 8:11 PM
Real:

Coal Jobs Prove Lucrative, but Not for Those in the Mines
By Hiroko Tabuchi MAY 2, 2017

"From 2004 to 2016, the average annual wage for chief executives in the coal industry grew as much as five times faster than those of lower-paying jobs in the industry, like construction or truck and tractor operator jobs. Executive pay averaged $200,000, up 60 percent from $125,000, while paychecks for truck and tractor operators rose just 15 percent, to $43,770 from $38,060. Pay ...more
May 3, 17 9:12 PM appended by Mr. Z
30x the average worker's salary I could stomach. But, if you're out there willing to support 350x, you're out of your g****** mind.
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 3, 17 9:12 PM
It's good to be a chief executive don'tcha think?
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on May 4, 17 5:35 AM
"It's good to be the King."

~ Mel Brooks as King Louis XVI
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 4, 17 10:06 PM
to Po Boy:

We wait in hope.

When it comes to fulfillment, it will be interesting to discover just what percentage of that $1.16 billion was spent on the East End. (That would be, I believe by general consensus, the geographical area whose western boundary is Westhampton Beach [generously, some folks place it at the Shinnecock Canal.])

Let's have a show of hands for that figure being in the $.0x billion dollar range ($.00x billion?)

More enlightening still would ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on May 3, 17 8:51 PM
This should give you hope. The mother and child are on a plane to Honduras. The mother witnessed a murder, and gangs down there don't bother with stitches, and just kill people who ain't even snitches.


Senator Begs Trump on Twitter Not to Deport Mother and 5-Year-Old Son to Certain Death in Honduras

Katherine Krueger
Today 4:28pm
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 3, 17 9:24 PM
I'm (once again) noticing hat there is literally no substance to any of your responses. It's pure hyperbole... void of any substance. "It will be interesting to see"... "More enlightening still would be..." An empty hat by any comparison. If you looked hard enough, the numbers are available for each project I'm sure. The more reasoned take notice of the very tangible positive efforts of Mr. Zeldin on behalf of the entirety of District 1 to which runs smack in the face your baseless and unfounded ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on May 4, 17 9:15 AM
"Baseless and unfounded".... yup!
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on May 4, 17 10:54 AM
to Mr. Snerdley:

Quote:

"If you looked hard enough, the numbers are available for each project I'm sure."
------------------------------------------

No, they're not.


to Po Boy:

"'Baseless and unfounded'".... yup!"
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Thank you for that admission. It took you long enough, though, to acknowledge your conflation of inference with fact.

By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on May 4, 17 11:00 AM
Mr. Zeldin "hasn't done a thing for the East End." From just the recent Consolidated Appropriations Act (H.R. 244) to fund the federal government for the remainder of Fiscal Year 2017.

$8 million in funding for the Long Island Sound Program, an increase of $4 million in funding, $26.7 million in funding for the National Estuary Program, and $72.5 million in funding for Sea Grant.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on May 8, 17 8:10 AM
to Po Boy:

Once again, you refer to programs that cover a wide geographical area (multi-state and national, in your most recent offerings), and claim that they manifest The Honorable Lee's interest in the East End.

They do not. The reality is, again, that we are incidental players in programs whose major beneficiaries are elsewhere. The East End itself will receive virtually nothing.

When these programs end, our homes will still be just as vulnerable to hurricanes and ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on May 8, 17 8:44 AM
Once again, you ignore the obvious. They most certainly do pertain to the East End. Just more examples of the work Mr. Zeldin is doing for the remainder of the year and these projects alone.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on May 8, 17 1:03 PM
Despite the six month lobbying ban, a running total of NINE members of Trump's transition team have registered as K Street lobbyists. It's a swell thing they're draining the swamp and developing condos.


Trump transition staffers head to K Street despite lobbying ban
Three months after Trump moved into the White House, at least nine people who worked on his transition have registered as lobbyists.

By Theodor Meyer and Michael Stratford
05/03/17 05:15 AM EDT
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 3, 17 9:28 PM
New Book Blows lid off Obama's sex secrets

How he considered a gay fling, had passionate sex and COCAINE with one white girl, proposed twice to another - and CHEATED on Michelle before they married
New biography of Barack Obama is laying bare his life since he was born and discloses his relationships before he married Michelle
Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama by Pulitzer-prize winner David J. Garrow is published on May 9
It reveals Obama was long-term lover of Genevieve ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on May 4, 17 12:33 AM
Behold the normal pattern of an American (or maybe the world over for all we know) male (or female in many cases) trying drugs and finding his way in matters sexual or what he would want in a mate early in the maturation process, finds said mate to whom he remains faithful, and creates a loving family, and exemplifies what a model husband and father should be. Notice anything out of the ordinary, or a single accusation of sexual assault or impropriety?
Compare and contrast that ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on May 5, 17 10:39 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By pw herman (727), southampton on May 8, 17 8:49 AM
It just gets better (with pics of the plaque, 2015 reprint):

Donald Trump Has Plaque at His Golf Course Commemorating Civil War Battle that Never Happened

May 2, 2017
By Sam Weinman, Golf Digest
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 3, 17 9:45 PM
From Chicago Booth:

Question A: Since 1980, whenever substantial growth effects have been required to make a tax reform plan revenue neutral, the actual outcome has invariably been a fall in tax revenue as a share of GDP.

Strongly Agree: 44%
Agree: 53%
Uncertain: 3%


Question B: The tax reform plan proposed by President Trump this week would likely pay for itself through higher economic growth.

Strongly Agree: 6%
Agree: 0%
Disagree: 12%
Strongly ...more
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 3, 17 9:54 PM
There is a SPENDING problem in DC, not a revenue problem. I don't recall you complaining when Barak Hussein Obama ran up the deficit faster than any other president.
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on May 4, 17 5:40 AM
That's because he didn't.

If you only add things under his control to the debt, Obama added 938 billion to the deficit. The budget deficits added up to 6.5 trillion, thanks to the "Great Recession" and massive losses in tax revenue.

But you're so gosh darn smart, you already knew that like a nuclear bomb, massive economic meltdowns have fallout. You can mostly thank the GOP for the "Great Recession", they own it.
May 4, 17 6:37 AM appended by Mr. Z
Pardon, 938 billion to the debt.
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on May 4, 17 6:37 AM
Stay calm and Trump on!

MAGA
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on May 3, 17 10:07 PM
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Getting very desperate out there on the right. What happened your tangerine toddler hasn't come through with anything he said he would do. What a bunch of saps believing the con man, carnival barker. Not only isn't Mexico not paying for the wall, neither is your Republican owned Congress.Dementia is setting in quickly, as he can't even speak coherently, How is Generalissimo Banana Republic, smarter than all his generals, defeat Isis in thirty days like the braggad
occia said he would. What a ...more
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on May 4, 17 6:05 AM
tangerine toddler, check
hasn't done anything yet, check
con man, check
carnival barker, check
mexico and the wall, check
dementia, check
reference to defeating isis, check
maga, check
laughingstock of the world reference, check
Art of the deal reference, check
Trump wants to poison the environment, check
national embarrassment, check
he's stupid, check
Andrew Jackson reference, check
reference to slavery, check
civil war reference, check
reference ...more
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on May 4, 17 6:49 AM
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lol
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on May 4, 17 7:38 AM
mets fan is so silly.

me, my family and my friends now have much more confidence in america's future

i sleep much better at night knowing president trump is looking out for the country.

i am much more rested and think i have finally cuaght up on 8 years of insomnia, lol

i trust government once again and feel much more confident about the direction of the country than i did prior to the presidential election.
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on May 4, 17 8:12 AM
Let me know what's changed
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on May 4, 17 8:47 AM
What moron calls Kim Jong-un a smart cookie. Nafta repealed? Found out, it's cheaper to prop up Mexico, than to have a economic or civil revolution in a neighboring country. I could keep going, you tell me what he's done to make this country great again. Balanced budget, that's not happening. Cutting your taxes, that's not happening. Better health care, that's not happening. So what are you cheering about?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on May 4, 17 8:55 AM
It's nice to know Erin feels great that rich, white, republican men legislate her body. I'm glad the government looks after her. It's nice and comfortable to be a second-class Republican citizen isn't it Erin.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on May 4, 17 9:00 AM
How stupid to waste time repeating everything I posted should be debated
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on May 4, 17 9:05 AM
Trump Derangement Syndrome on display^^^^^
By bigfresh (3030), north sea on May 4, 17 6:29 AM
Wednesday, May 03, 2017

POLL: TRUMP APPROVAL UP HITS 49%...

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 49% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.
By 27dan (2149), Shinnecock Hills on May 4, 17 7:43 AM
Apparently you're the only dope who doesn't know Rasmussen is an outlier, and the least reliable. Might as well save your time and effort---nobody puts a bit of credence to it.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on May 4, 17 1:31 PM
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seems to me that "outlier was the only poll to even come close to calling the presidential election ?
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on May 5, 17 5:58 PM
And on this National Day of Prayer the Republicans with trump's imprimatur vote to deny millions access to medical care and certain death for thousands. Exactly what JWD.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on May 4, 17 2:11 PM
Certain death...LMAO! So, we're all going to certainly die? Finally June B, I can agree with you on something. No, it wouldn't have been insurance companies leaving state exchanges in droves and no longer offering insurance, costs sky rocketing... the system collapsing...it's the Republicans trying to save it. And don't get me wrong, I think the Republican establishment will f this up too.
May 4, 17 5:02 PM appended by Mr. Snerdley
And to add June B, if you think what took place today with the vote to repeal Obamacare will ACTUALLY happen, you're kidding yourself. Don't worry, people will continue to be subject to certain death under Obamacare or GOP version that will be roughly 90% Obamacare, aka, Obamacare-lite.
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on May 4, 17 5:02 PM
Please tell me how someone with a pre-existing, life-threatening condition manages to survive if they can afford neither insurance nor treatment? Or reaches the cap on their employer plan that didn't exist under Obamacare? And don't tell me about the ER. Certain death for them, and hopefully certain political death for anyone who voted for this crap.

And the Liar-in-Chief barked and barked on the stump that he would never touch Medicare or Medicaid. What is it cut from Medicaid? $900B ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on May 4, 17 5:41 PM

Once scored, Senate will have no part of it.
Oh and another little factoid: Anyone remember the Republican pledge to the American people which promised that any replacement would be presented to the public at least 3 days prior to the vote. No scoring, no presentation.
MEDICARE FOR ALL.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on May 4, 17 7:13 PM
What hasn't been mentioned in this thread hereto is that the Republicans rushed the bill to a vote before the Congressional Budget Office had the opportunity to "score" it. In the previous (failed) proposal, the CBO estimated that that bill would strip 24 million citizens of health care and do virtually nothing to curtail premium increases.

How malignant in character is one who who would drive his neighbors into pain and penury for nothing but a pragmatically meaningless victory.

Despicable ...more
May 4, 17 9:13 PM appended by highhatsize
Predictions of the current proposal are that the CBO will find it to be virtually identical in will be virtually identical in effect. [Look for The Donald to propose that the CBO be eliminated.]
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on May 4, 17 9:13 PM
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States rights hat... the 10th amendment states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Unless SPS can point to the specific powers granted to the general government in the Constitution, any health-care solutions should rightly come through the states.

By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on May 5, 17 10:05 AM
to joe hampton:

I believe that we have discussed this before, joe, but I assume that you DO realize that the constitutional amendments didn't end with the 10th. The 14th, specifically, extended federally protected rights to every citizen regardless of the state in which he is resident.

Your observation stopped being relevant in 1868.
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on May 5, 17 1:57 PM
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