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Nov 30, 2017 5:06 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Steve Bannon To Attend Fundraiser For Representative Lee Zeldin In December

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin
Dec 5, 2017 5:14 PM

Stephen Bannon, the former White House chief strategist and current Breitbart News executive chairman, will headline a fundraising event for U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin in Manhattan on December 14.

Mr. Bannon has been criticized for promoting misogynistic, xenophobic and racist views through his news organization, and for using those perspectives to encourage President Donald Trump to appeal to the nationalist, alt-right part of his base.

He is, however, passionately pro-Israel—as are Mr. Zeldin and the event’s other two featured guests, Republican businessmen Wayne Berman and Arthur Schwartz.

A number of prominent pro-Israel advocates—including the Anti-Defamation League, President of the Reform movement Rabbi Rick Jacobs, and J Street—advocated for Mr. Bannon’s removal from the White House until he left in August after a seven-month tenure.

But Mr. Zeldin defended Mr. Bannon in an email on Wednesday.

“These other groups can speak for themselves, but I found Steve to be the most passionate advocate I spoke to in the White House for combating the growing BDS [Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions] movement on college campuses and around the world, passing the Taylor Force Act, moving the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, decertifying the deeply flawed Iran nuclear deal, and so much more,” he said.

“I’ve witnessed countless people shamefully trying to smear him not only as anti-Semitic but also calling him a Nazi—which truly is an absolutely disgusting character assassination.”

The two men also share a military background, Mr. Zeldin having served in the Army and Mr. Bannon in the Navy. Mr. Zeldin’s chief of staff, Eric Amidon, credits these two areas of commonality as the impetuses that led to their first meeting when Mr. Bannon still worked in the White House.

They are not in perfect harmony on every issue, as the recent allegations of sexual assault against Roy Moore, the Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Alabama, reveal.

A few weeks ago, Mr. Zeldin tweeted: “It’s about time for that creepy Roy Moore dude to exit stage left. He should step aside and let someone take his spot on the ballot who doesn’t prey upon young teenage girls as a grown man.”

Mr. Bannon, on the other hand, plans to travel to Alabama to actively campaign for the ex-judge. “I look forward to standing with Judge Moore and all of the Alabama deplorables in the fight to elect him to the United States Senate and send shock waves to the political and media elites,” he reportedly said in a statement.

Mr. Zeldin does not see the ideological difference as disqualifying. “Former NYC Mayor Ed Koch once said, ‘If you agree with me nine times out of 12, vote for me. If you agree with me 12 times out of 12, see a psychiatrist,’” Mr. Zeldin said in his email.

“I think Roy Moore should step aside,” he continued. “That is how I’m wired. Others view that dynamic differently than I do. There are issues where I agree with him and others where we disagree.”

Mr. Zeldin said he feels strongly that Mr. Bannon’s dismissal of women who accused Mr. Moore, and, previously, President Trump, of sexual assault will not sully his own record of fighting for victims’ rights.

Mr. Zeldin’s reelection bid is the first House of Representatives race that Mr. Bannon has become publicly involved in, although he has previously stated his intent to wage war against many establishment Republicans in the 2018 midterms who he feels have not fully committed to President Trump’s agenda.

According to FiveThirtyEight, a polling company, Mr. Zeldin has voted in line with Mr. Trump’s position 90.6 percent of the time. However, in a recent exception, the New York representative voted against the Republican tax plan, citing the elimination of the federal deduction for state and local taxes as a deal-breaker.

It was recently reported in The New York Times that this rebellion led House Speaker Paul Ryan to cancel a fundraising event for Mr. Zeldin out of retribution.

Despite Mr. Zeldin’s rejection, the bill passed easily in the House and its Senate equivalent recently passed on a party-line Republican vote. The two bills now must be reconciled in a conference committee to make them identical, then be voted on again by each chamber.

“I will continue to be an independent voice, which means that on some issues I will agree with leadership of my own party and on other issues I will not agree with them regardless of the consequences,” Mr. Zeldin said.

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Unbelievable!
By MelissaA (18), Sag Harbor on Nov 30, 17 5:17 PM
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Unbelievable!
By MelissaA (18), Sag Harbor on Nov 30, 17 5:18 PM
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Puke!
By Toma Noku (583), Southampton on Nov 30, 17 5:39 PM
Isn't it nice that our representative is in the pocket of the oligarchs? Bannon is on the payroll of the prime movers of this hideous tax bill, the Koch Brothers. Their mission is to kill any and all social programs including Medicare and Social Security, and to achieve that by starving the beast.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 30, 17 6:45 PM
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Didn't Lee vote against the tax bill?
By Draggerman (689), Southampton on Nov 30, 17 6:59 PM
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Yes, but a meaningless vote. Plus the minute the bill passes, he'll be drinking champagne with the rest of the thieves.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 30, 17 7:58 PM
They are all in the pocket of one oligarch or another. It's just that people seem to ignore those that support democratic candidates. Like the sex abuse scandals that are coming to light, we've given passes to guilty parties because they are popular or promote an issue we like.
By Funbeer (206), Southampton on Dec 1, 17 1:01 PM
Juney B, never good enough for the likes of you.
By dnice (1997), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 17 12:01 AM
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repulsive
By xtiego (604), bridgehampton on Nov 30, 17 7:14 PM
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Mr. Zeldin:

I’m a Depression historian. The GOP tax bill is straight out of 1929.
Republicans are again sprinting toward an economic cliff.


By Robert S. McElvaine November 30 at 9:17 AM

Historian Robert S. McElvaine teaches at Millsaps College. He is the author of "The Great Depression: America, 1929-1941" and currently at work on a novel.


“There are two ideas of government,” William Jennings Bryan declared in his 1896 “Cross ...more
Nov 30, 17 9:58 PM appended by Mr. Z
'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 30, 17 9:58 PM
Just how disastrous would the proposed reincarnation of the failed Republican trickle-down policies of the past be for the American people and the future of the nation? A few ways:

Repealing the estate tax, or, as Republicans have dubbed it, the “death tax.” But the estate tax is not a tax on the dead; it is a tax on their heirs. Repeal would reverse an important aspect of the American Revolution and establish an American hereditary aristocracy. If your estate is not above $11 ...more
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 30, 17 10:16 PM
Small business will benefit from the "pass-through" provision , that's a GOOD THING JuneZ, so is eliminating the Obamacare mandate as is repealing the alternative minimum tax. Some of the other provisions are not great.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 1, 17 7:34 AM
Get ready for the private healthcare market to get a whole lot more expensive.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 1, 17 7:55 AM
Yet you're totally incapable of explaining in your own words your own hyperbolic horsesh*t?
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on Dec 1, 17 8:03 AM
Bannon will not be appearing in his underpants nor will he be photographed feeling a sleeping woman's breasts.
By pw herman (727), southampton on Dec 1, 17 8:26 AM
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"Some of the other provisions are not great."


Like blowing a 1.5 trillion dollar hole that the next generation will owe?

Or the sunset on the "tax breaks" for the middling sorts?

Same old Republican shenanigans that take us down the road to financial disaster. Won't get fooled again, thank you.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 4, 17 7:01 AM
How do we get invited!
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on Dec 1, 17 5:19 AM
Pony up $1,000 and you can ooze around with the rest of the slime.
By tenn tom (167), remsenburg on Dec 1, 17 7:28 AM
Guess Zeldin really wants to enter the private sector in 2018. Will Bannon be wearing a brown shirt?
By harbor (298), East Hampton on Dec 1, 17 9:26 AM
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Outstanding!
By Preliator Lives (240), Obamavillie on Dec 1, 17 9:46 AM
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For Lee’s first run the big local fundraiser was held at Joe Farrell’s Sandcastle. Go figure
By G (308), Southampton on Dec 1, 17 9:46 AM
Muller's foundation continues to get stronger with the . . .
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Flynn Guilty Plea

Sooner or later all child bullies get exposed for what they are, and get spanked, as they deserve.

Pretty simple fact of life!

Da Nile is a wide river to cross.

By PBR (4819), Southampton on Dec 1, 17 10:10 AM
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What a surprise that the only thing Mueller can find after he and the other 17 "intelligence agencies" have spent millions of dollars and 10s of thousands of hours, is that someone falsely miss-remembered something.

Flynn also lied to Trump and Pence. Trump is the only person in DC that's actually clean. That's why the DC Swamp Rats hate him so much. The real criminal is Mueller, he was Hillary's bagman in Uranium 1.
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 1, 17 10:32 AM
"The only thing Mueller can find"?

In case you haven't been counting, that's four members of Trump's campaign charged and two of them took plea deals.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 1, 17 10:47 AM
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How old were you when you fell on your head?
What a display of naivete and idiocy.
FLYNN HAS JUST TAKEN TRUMP DOWN. ALL MUELLER HAD TO DO WAS TO DANGLE A MULTITUDE OF CHARGES IN EXCHANGE.
Prediction: NO IMPEACHMENT. RESIGNATION.
AMERICA IS GREAT.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 1, 17 11:39 AM
Need I remind you that there is STILL no evidence of WRONG DOING of any kind by the president.

Talking to the Russians...is not a crime. Directing to talk to the Russians (if it even took place)...not a crime.

What is the crime?
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 1, 17 11:56 AM
Well...the potential crime is talking to Russian government actors with the knowledge they intend to provide material support to the Presidential Campaign. Whether it occurred at the highest level remains to be seen.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 1, 17 12:03 PM
Flynn's actions were AFTER the election i.e. no election collusion with Russia.
By Taz (316), East Quogue on Dec 1, 17 1:15 PM
Hope you T-fans have your faces turned away from the windy discharge, because when the shlt hits the fan, you are going to get a face-full!

And you don't even seem to see it coming . . .

You think this one guilty plea from Flynn is all there is to his cooperation?

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle !!!
By Nero (234), Sag Harbor on Dec 1, 17 2:11 PM
By and large T-fans want wrong doing investigated and charged in a fair and judicial manner where the evidence supports. We have unfortunately not seen that whether it be allegations against Hillary where preferential treatment was given nor with Trump, where there has been no evidence to support allegations let alone an investigation with no parameters. Had an investigation been conducted with a fraction of the vigor toward Hillary as Trump we'd have a whole lot more to talk about. Hell, let's ...more
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 1, 17 2:29 PM
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Wrong.

Feb. 15, 2017

The New York Times reports that telephone records and intercepted calls show that "members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election."

Nero has it exactly right. The cultists are either in total denial, or they're being fed actual fake news.

By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 1, 17 3:10 PM
Yes the NYT is so unbiased in their reporting.Maybe u shld watch fox once in a while.
By Taz (316), East Quogue on Dec 1, 17 3:19 PM
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Oh, dear God. Fox isn't biased? Surely you jest.
That you and the rest of the cultists consume the propagandic skata on State TV explains why you believe Flynn wasn't colluding with Russia prior to the election. A June 26 Tweet by Scaramucci asserting that according to Rupert Murdoch, trump and Flynn were "cleared" is just one other instance indicative of the reliability of any of Murdoch's properties. Maybe you should read a reliable, major newspaper once in awhile.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 1, 17 4:00 PM
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Do you even read past the headline of your references June?

"The New York Times reports that telephone records and intercepted calls show that "members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election."
Dec 1, 17 5:06 PM appended by Po Boy
The article goes on to note: "Several of Mr. Trump’s associates, like Mr. Manafort, have done business in Russia. And it is not unusual for American businessmen to come in contact with foreign intelligence officials, sometimes unwittingly, in countries like Russia and Ukraine, where the spy services are deeply embedded in society. Law enforcement officials did not say to what extent the contacts might have been about business."
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 1, 17 5:06 PM
Firstly, do you even know the difference between a declarative sentence and a headline? The sentence re: Russian contacts is a single entry from a timeline, so stop with your bogus, laughable assertion that the "article goes on to note". There was no article, Skippy.

How dense do you have to be after all these months of reporting about the investigations(s) to think they're about innocent business dealings? Try collusion, lying, conspiracy, obstruction of justice (which trump ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 1, 17 8:12 PM
Show me the collusion... not what you want the collusion to be. None of the information so far indicates Manaforts pleadings have anything to do with the Trump Presidency. Same with Flynn.

So if there is collusion, why didn't Flynn's pleadings have anything to do with a conspiracy? Until it is shown to be different it would appear Flynn plead to a nothingburger because it was draining him and his family financially and emotionally and had NOTHING to do with Trump or the administration.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 3, 17 4:40 PM
You should enjoy your comfy little bubble of denial as long as you can b/c when it bursts, you're gonna' be in a world of hurt.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 3, 17 7:15 PM
Ok, but all that emotion doesn't change the facts.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 3, 17 10:19 PM
Great! Go Zeldin!!!
By Taz (316), East Quogue on Dec 1, 17 11:19 AM
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JuneZ: You are completely unhinged and your inability to accept the FACT that we have President Trump has left you incapable of rational thought.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 1, 17 12:32 PM
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trump is Flynnished.
Accept that.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 1, 17 4:01 PM
unhinged is an understatement, watching June grasp at a nothing burger is quite amusing
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 1, 17 5:14 PM
You haven't been capable of rational thought since you accepted Republicanism. A serf is still a serf.

Democratism however...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 2, 17 2:08 AM
When are you brain dead Trump supporters going to stop trying to best June Bug? She wipes the floor with you palookas every time . Its no contest.
By country joe (11), sag harbor on Dec 1, 17 4:25 PM
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The problem with JuneZ's banter is that it is dripping with emotion and normally she can't get past a particular point in an article that is later explained away in a later portion. See example above.

Like her post just above. While cute, it's seeking something that has yet to even be remotely substantiated in any way, shape or form. She's spewing nothing but emotion. In the case above, it is gleeful vitriol.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 1, 17 5:11 PM
and country joe with his 10 comments would know about "every time" lol ridiculous
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Dec 1, 17 5:16 PM
The word you can't find is "polemics".
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 1, 17 6:43 PM
Whats so bad about talking to the Russians anyway ? I would not mind one bit if Russia helped expose Hillary and Company
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 1, 17 5:13 PM
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By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 1, 17 5:21 PM
I find Mr. Zeldin's statement totally beyond belief ... "I've witnessed countless people shamefully trying to smear him (Steve Bannon) not only as anti-Semitic, but also calling him a Nazi, which truly is an absolutely disgusting character assassination."

Just ask the American Citizens of the Jewish faith in Charlottesville, VA., whose Friday night's service was disturbed by bands of armed Neo Nazis, Bannon's Boys, demonstrating in front of their Temple.

We New Yorkers knew Mayor ...more
By SpeedRacer (71), Southampton on Dec 1, 17 8:58 PM
Hey SpeedRacer why don't you go back to playing in the Hills sand box with Racer X and Chim chim and spare us the history lesson
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 1, 17 9:52 PM
"Those who do not learn history are condemned to repeat it". Jorge Santayana

"They Call Me" ... I know what I would call you.
By HamptonClassic (43), Southampton on Dec 1, 17 10:37 PM
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I'm going to assume that you are aware of the fact that Ed Koch considered anti Zionism equal to anti Semitism.
By Sturgis (252), Southampton on Dec 2, 17 10:52 AM
Quote:

"'I found Steve to be the most passionate advocate I spoke to in the White House for combating the growing BDS [Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions] movement on college campuses and around the world, passing the Taylor Force Act, moving the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, decertifying the deeply flawed Iran nuclear deal, and so much more,' he [Zeldin] said."
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Zeldin clearly explained (supra) his reason for embracing ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 1, 17 10:47 PM
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Quote:

"The specter of The Donald leading them to a crushing defeat in November has unhinged the extreme Right-Wingers on this thread. They are trodding - - - frenetically - - - on each other's heels in their eagerness to smear our president-to-be and her husband with novel, substance-free defamations, pausing only to praise the fatuous lies posted by their colleagues. One can only hope that their unbearable stress is somewhat relieved by this odd, onanistic practice.

For the rest ...more
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 1, 17 10:58 PM
OH MY WORD!

Hilarious TCM
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 1, 17 11:05 PM
SAD ... To think what could have been, compared to the downward spiral that Trump, the Russian Agent, is taking us down. Even our closest allies now question our actions. The UK disinvited the President of the US...(When did that ever happen) even Ben Franklyn was welcomed in UK after the Revolutionary War. So SAD, and it isn't even one year since the Russian Victory.
By SpeedRacer (71), Southampton on Dec 2, 17 11:50 AM
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‘Very Fake News’: ABC’s Brian Ross Issues On-Air ‘Clarification’ to Correct Report ‘Candidate’ Trump ‘Ordered’ Flynn to Contact Russians, Friday on ABC’s “World News Tonight,” network investigative reporter Brian Ross backtracked on his initial report claiming former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn had promised “full cooperation” with special counsel Robert Mueller and was prepared to testify that “candidate” ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 1, 17 11:10 PM
Only a matter of time before Ross's original report will be shown to be right. ABC was stupid to cave in to the right wing barkers by sidelining him.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 3, 17 1:30 PM
Quote:

"Mr. Bannon has been criticized for promoting misogynistic, xenophobic and racist views through his news organization ...

A number of prominent pro-Israel advocates—including the Anti-Defamation League, President of the Reform movement Rabbi Rick Jacobs and J Street—advocated for Mr. Bannon’s removal from the White House ... "
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Rational supporters of Israel (supra) find Bannon too hard to swallow - - ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 2, 17 9:43 AM
Supra!
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 2, 17 10:16 AM
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By pw herman (727), southampton on Dec 2, 17 10:20 AM
weekend pass ?
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 2, 17 1:41 PM
Oh look who's back......
By Biba (344), East Hampton on Dec 2, 17 10:20 AM
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With any luck he'll disappear again....
By Taz (316), East Quogue on Dec 2, 17 1:04 PM
STILL ZERO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION ! NOW GO ENJOY YOUR DAY ...
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 2, 17 1:40 PM
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You must made it. Hilarious!
Dec 2, 17 1:51 PM appended by June Bug
Oops, typo---just, not "must".
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 2, 17 1:51 PM
BANNON SLAM DUNK ! The Senate passed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act on Saturday, which serves as one of the final steps for Congress to pass historic tax legislation.Great news for small business and whats left of the middle class. Trump delivers !

This is a great Christmas gift.
Leftist Heads are exploding!
Winning !!

MAGA!
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 2, 17 1:56 PM
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@joe hampton: Only what's criminal which is conspiracy.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 2, 17 9:01 PM
REVEALED: TRUMP HATER ON MUELLER TEAM: By hiding from Congress, and from the American people, documented political bias by a key FBI head investigator for both the Russia collusion probe and the Clinton email investigation, the FBI and DOJ engaged in a willful attempt to thwart Congress' constitutional oversight responsibility
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 3, 17 12:00 AM
Isn't the whole Mueller team been assembled from progressives? Why this guy special? Mueller and Comey both involved with Clinton cover-up.
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 3, 17 3:06 AM
Now we have a desperate scramble underway to discredit the investigations. There is no requirement for FBI personnel to be politically neutral, and no prohibition whatsoever against anyone expressing their political views outside of their professional duties which is what happened in this particular case.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 3, 17 12:16 PM
Do please tell us how Comey's announcement of re-opening an e-mail investigation 3 days before the election helped elect Mrs. Clinton?
Your posts have the same self-incriminating effect as trump's tweets have on him. Total dumblebums. Or in your case, dumbleditchbums.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 3, 17 12:23 PM
Sick, Sick, Sick Leftists.
By pw herman (727), southampton on Dec 3, 17 1:32 PM
@ They call me, Undocumented Democrat, even flow, joe hampton, Biba & Taz:

Not a single substantive reply.

With slavish devotees like yourselves, it is no wonder that The Honorable Lee feels safe in so openly displaying his allegiance.

Meanwhile, conditions that cry out for redress in the district that he notionally represents continue to worsen.
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 2, 17 2:27 PM
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By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 2, 17 2:35 PM
Please .....the only replies you consider substantive are your own.

We get it. Any Jew in congress ,or in the political arena for that matter, that supports Israel, is a traitor.

Yet Obamas fondness for the Muslim Brotherhood is ok with you. Go figure.
Unless........

The Muslim Brotherhood that Obama was associated with, was a different Muslim Brotherhood....Not to be confused with the Muslim Brotherhood that was founded by rabid anti Semite Hassa al-Banna in 1928 ...more
By Biba (344), East Hampton on Dec 2, 17 5:32 PM
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Racist idiocy.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 2, 17 5:54 PM
Which part ?
By Sturgis (252), Southampton on Dec 2, 17 6:14 PM
Blah blah blah. Substantive responses are earned.
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 3, 17 5:33 AM
"You shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold."

~ William Jennings Bryan
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 2, 17 7:47 PM
@ Biba:

Quote:

"We get it. Any Jew in congress ,or in the political arena for that matter, that supports Israel, is a traitor."
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Twaddle.

There are thirty Jews in Congress, all of whom support Israel, but only ONE is the creature of the Likud Party.
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 3, 17 2:05 AM
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By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 3, 17 3:07 AM
Getting rid of net neutrality will kill people.
Lowering taxes will kill people.
Repealing the individual mandate will kill people.

Am I doing this right?
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 3, 17 7:27 AM
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Getting rid of NN won't kill people, it'll just make it harder for internet startups to compete against the big players.

Lowering taxes won't kill people, it'll just raise the national debt that our children and grandchildren will have to deal with.

Repealing the individual mandate won't kill people, but it'll result in drastically higher insurance premiums which will result in less people having coverage, and more people will die of otherwise-preventable conditions.

So, ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 3, 17 7:38 AM
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The internet worked perfectly before obama became President. You parrot the media verbatim
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on Dec 3, 17 8:15 AM
Classic response Foreign griping about losing some free stuff and taking a shot at both capitalism and the wealthy. Never heard a peep from you about your boy Barry Soetoro increasing the deficit.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 3, 17 8:58 AM
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What President Obama did as part of the herculean task of righting the economic ship of state was put GWB's two unnecessary, unfunded wars ON THE BOOKS. That's what increased the deficit, Skippy, so please cease and desist in promulgating the right wing's stock -in-trade of complete distortion of who did what. Were you never taught not to bear false witness?
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 3, 17 11:26 AM
That's untrue JuneZ -l ong disproven. Both wars were paid for by emergency spending bills which are very common in such circumstances. I know "off the books" sounds better, but, that's not accurate. Why emergency spending bills? Because the budget process works in advance by two years; it wasn't possible given the immediate need. You can educate yourself at factcheck dot org, Obama’s Deficit Dodge. By Eugene KielyPosted on September 28, 2012. Most notably, Obama doesn't take credit for war ...more
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 3, 17 4:29 PM
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Any comments on sexual peversion out there? Funny how attacks on the right boomerang right back atcha. you have unleashed the exposure of some democrat nastyness you all choose to ignore.
By Taz (316), East Quogue on Dec 3, 17 11:57 AM
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Thats right choose to IGNORE !
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 3, 17 9:27 PM
will HH still be posting during the week? Will his internet privileges be continued for time served with good behavior? Will he return to his twisted ways? only time will tell, stay tuned.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 3, 17 6:08 PM
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Aside from Biba's reiterated false, unattributed mischaracterization of the Muslim Brotherhood (first refuted over a year ago), Right Wing responses to my posts have been childish discourtesy and vile implication. Reason, as usual, is glaring in its absence.

Yet another exchange proving that the Brock University finding of Right-Wing intellectual limitation is spot on. Zeldin depends on it.
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 3, 17 7:40 PM
To HHS
Everything I've ever posted in reference to the MB is factual and verifiable. Refuted by YOU ? That's hilarious. What I posted a year ago, is just as true and factual as it was 89 years ago, when the MB was founded.

In reference to Jewish people in congress, I do believe 28 out of the 30 are liberal lefty Dem's... so for obvious reasons it's more accurate to say there are really only 2 Jews in congress.
By Biba (344), East Hampton on Dec 7, 17 11:58 AM
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By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 3, 17 9:31 PM
He said it. “Grab ’em by the p***y.”

BILLY BUSH: I CONFESS...He said it. And we laughed along, without a single doubt that this was hypothetical hot air from America’s highest-rated bloviator. Along with Donald Trump and me, there were seven other guys present on the bus at the time, and every single one of us assumed we were listening to a crass standup act. He was performing. Surely, we thought, none of this was real.

By BILLY BUSHDEC. 3, 2017
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 3, 17 9:45 PM
“I can only imagine how it has reopened the wounds of the women who came forward with their stories about him, and did not receive enough attention. This country is currently trying to reconcile itself to years of power abuse and sexual misconduct. Its leader is wantonly poking the bear."

~ Billy Bush
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 4, 17 7:10 AM
You have predictions are ridiculous and you have spoken foolishly, time and time again.

"Sorry if I have mislead you. I hope that The Donald will win the Republican nomination because he will certainly lose the presidential election, enabling the Democratic Party to secure the presidency (and, perhaps, a senatorial majority with a turkey like The Donald at the head of the ticket.) It could only be better if this egomaniac opted to wage a third-party contest after the mainstream Republicans ...more
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 4, 17 9:54 AM
Dan, I thought you would like this,

THE RED, WHITE AND BLUE, NFL SCRAMBLES AS FANS STAY HOME
'There is a disengagement across the country'

(BALTIMORE SUN) — It seems paradoxical: The Ravens, who have sold out every home game since they arrived in Baltimore in 1996, are advertising tickets for Sunday’s contest at M&T Bank Stadium.

But this is where the Ravens find themselves in 2017: Contemplating the prospect of empty seats, and appealing to fans to “Win ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 3, 17 10:43 PM
BOYCOTT THE NFL AND THEIR SPONSORS.LIST BELOW
PAPA JOHNS is back on the list - THEY SUCK.
ALYSSA MILANO'S CLOTHING LINE
Anheuser-Busch
Barclaycard US
Bose
Bridgestone
Campbell's Soup Company
Castrol
Courtyard Marriott
Dairy Management, Inc. (Fuel Up to Play 60)
Dannon
Extreme Networks
FedEx
Ford
Frito-Lay
Gatorade
Hyundai Motor America
KELLOGGS
Mars Snackfood
McDonalds
Microsoft
Nationwide
News America
NIKE
Pepsi
Procter ...more
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 3, 17 11:23 PM
Oops...


No sign of 'Boycott the NFL' at Colts-Steelers game

Jim Ayello, jim.ayello@indystar.com Published 2:09 p.m. ET Nov. 12, 2017 | Updated 2:11 p.m. ET Nov. 12, 2017
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 4, 17 7:14 AM
NFL will go broke before America runs out of Patriotism!
National Felons League is entertainment, not an essential necessity of life. We don't need them. No NFL at our house.
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 3, 17 10:45 PM
BOYCOTT ALL SPONSORS.
BOYCOTT ALL NFL MERCHANDISE!
DIE NFL DIE.

Wife and I just bought Christmas Hockey jerseys for gifts this weekend, Guy in mall store was noticeably pissed when he tried to tell me the NFL merchandise was 10% off and I laughed in his face.
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 3, 17 11:00 PM
Spoken like true Giant fans.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 4, 17 5:40 AM
Spoken like a true bitter America hater
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 4, 17 9:51 AM
Everyone knows REAL Americans cheer for the Jets.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 4, 17 11:04 AM
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Looks like Joe's team went down in bitter flames.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 4, 17 12:51 PM
President Trump is dismantling the evil empire of the progressives. obamacare mandate going going, travel ban, lower taxes, Paris Accord gone, crazy trade agreements diappearing, SCOTUS, the Wall, facing down the Norks, illegal immigration down 75%, Judge Moore about to be elected, and on and on.

Every day, there is a new victory for common sense and morality. If Trump can keep this up for 7 years, it will take generations for the islamomarxists to recover, if ever.
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 4, 17 8:31 PM
Ditch, we're talking about the NFL, please stay on topic: which is your favorite team?

I bet you like Buffalo
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 5, 17 7:41 AM
@ 27dan, joe hampton, loading... & They call me:

Quote:

"You have proven yourself to be a fool time and time again."
-----------------------------------

Personal invective - - - the first recourse of the cognitively impaired - - - a Right-Wing favorite.

Substance and reason, it is unnecessary to say, continue to go wanting.

It is this intellectual feebleness that has enabled the Honorable Lee to retain his seat in Congress in spite of repeated behavior ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 4, 17 8:00 AM
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By pw herman (727), southampton on Dec 4, 17 8:41 AM
It is this intellectual feebleness that ignores the encompassing facts about a politically compromised agency.

1. McCabe's wife takes $500k from Terry MacCaulife

2. McCabe is given asst director position by Comey overseeing Clinton crimes.

3. Comey botches Clinton investigation filling the task force on emails w compromised partisan hack agents. One of which was just fired by special counsel.

4. Comey exonerates Hillary before ever interviewing her instead of ...more
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 4, 17 9:49 AM
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@ joe hampton:

You Right-Wingers are the most incredible fish. Any sparkly bit of defamatory political bait that passes by and you snap it up without a thought. Your latest (plagiarized) post comes not from a respected authority and not even from one of the Right-Wing propaganda organs, but from an ANONYMOUS COMMENT following an article on one of the lesser ones.

It's unsupportable nonsense. Pure fantasy. In other words, your cup of tea.

No wonder a fraud like Zeldin ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 4, 17 12:11 PM
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"1. McCabe's wife takes $500k from Terry MacCaulife"

"It's unsupportable nonsense. Pure fantasy."

Terry McAuliffe's PAC donated to campaign of FBI official's wife.
By/ Julia Boccagno/ CBS News/ October 24, 2016, 1:01 PM

Unsupportable my you know what...

By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 4, 17 12:59 PM
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“My view is that — Robert Mueller poses an existential threat to the Trump presidency. He’s gotten four major — two convictions, two plea agreements. Lightning speed. I mean, during the Clinton years, it took Ken Starr and Robert Fisk four years."

~ Chris Ruddy, NewsMax Media
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 4, 17 9:10 PM
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And in that same interview this from Republican strategist Alex Castellanos:
"..... there are "two converging currents -- the Mueller investigation looking for that obstruction of justice charge -- and then Alabama, Roy Moore, coming to the Senate possibly in a week."

Moore, if elected, "becomes the face of the Republican Party for the next year when we're already in danger of losing the House," Castellanos said. "It's likely we'll do that without him, lose the House. Trump gets ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 4, 17 9:24 PM
One might ask why it was lightning speed...we still have zero evidence of collusion and the well is running dry. The witch hunt with no proof of collusion will now turn to bogus allegations of obstruction of justice and attempts for impeachment. It's a travesty of justice applauded only by the sore losers and insider establishment. And, they were far from "major convictions" given they have literally nothing to do with the Trump Presidency.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 5, 17 7:29 AM
Remember: Bill Clinton wasn't impeached over Whitewater, he was impeached for lying.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 5, 17 7:35 AM
Yeah, I get it. You ask a thousand different questions, dozens of different ways that you already know the answer to and compare it to documents that haven't been seen for God knows how long all while under oath....and you have an impeachment charge. Ask Michael Flynn how that works out.

Well Bravo.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 5, 17 7:38 PM
An entry-level attorney at the world's worst law firm could tell you to never talk to law enforcement, I don't know what they were thinking.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 5, 17 8:24 PM
They were thinking "we didn't do anything wrong." Little did they realize the far reaching extent of the witch hunt and that it really was all along a coordinated effort to protect Hillary and impeach Donald Trump.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 6, 17 3:11 PM
And it should be a lesson to all of us, one that us foreign-born know all-too-well: unless you actively need immediate assistance, never cooperate with law enforcement without the advice of counsel.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 7, 17 6:57 AM
There is so much corruption surrounding Hillary and Obama it's amazing.
By Taz (316), East Quogue on Dec 4, 17 10:16 AM
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How do you keep yourself in ballet shoes with all that pivoting and pirouetting?
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 4, 17 1:05 PM
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all that pivoting and pirouetting???

This from the wacko bird who 72 hours ago said "FLYNN HAS JUST TAKEN TRUMP DOWN. ALL MUELLER HAD TO DO WAS TO DANGLE A MULTITUDE OF CHARGES IN EXCHANGE.
Prediction: NO IMPEACHMENT. RESIGNATION"

ROTFLOL!
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 4, 17 6:09 PM
Enjoy your laughter while you can.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 4, 17 9:17 PM
AP By MARK SHERMAN
Supreme Court allows full enforcement of Trump travel ban

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday allowed the Trump administration to fully enforce a ban on travel to the United States by residents of six Sharia Muslim countries.

WINNING!
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 4, 17 5:52 PM
Best News Of The Year..

Only two no's, RBG and the wise latino.
Even Breyer said it was OK. A 7-2 decision, nice.

Great start to the week, lets keep the winning going

America coming back:
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 4, 17 6:05 PM
““If there is a tit-for-tat escalation Trump will have difficulty improving relations with Russia, which has just thrown U.S.A. election to him.”

~ K.T. McFarland
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 4, 17 8:49 PM
Oh Mr. Z, so sad. The email was written after taking office on December 26 and after Intelligence assessments indicated Russia did conduct low level activities toward the election - not by vote manipulation mind you, but by illuminating the dirty deeds and secrets of the Democratic National Committee. There is no linkage to actions of Russia prior to the election to that of the Trump administration discussing sanctions against Russia after the election and the statement by K.T. McFarland while explained ...more
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 5, 17 7:51 AM
Well that's where you're potentially uninformed. Ninety pages of "irregularities".


"The results of a Freedom of Information Act inquiry by the National Association of Voting Officials has confirmed that voting machines in 5 swing states that went to Trump in the 2016 election were experiencing a variety of issues or malfunctions, casting further doubt on the results of the historic upset."
Dec 5, 17 8:45 PM appended by Mr. Z
Cheaters never prosper. But sometimes they end up "winning" for a little while...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 5, 17 8:45 PM
Clickbait fake news...courtesy of Occupy Democrats. Since when does the State Department have anything to do with voting irregularities?

You're gonna need more tin foil.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 5, 17 10:25 PM
Not so much.


Russian Election Hacking Efforts, Wider Than Previously Known, Draw Little Scrutiny

By Nicole Perlroth, Michael Wines and Matthew Rosenberg
Sept. 1, 2017


"Beyond VR Systems, hackers breached at least two other providers of critical election services well ahead of the 2016 voting, said current and former intelligence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because the information is classified. The officials would not disclose the names ...more
Dec 6, 17 8:32 PM appended by Mr. Z
Even with good forensics, talented hackers can dust their tracks. Much like loading a Linux live CD back in the day, they write their software to execute via volatile memory, like RAM. To go one better, if there is a command to shut down the server/machine evidence simply vanishes with the power loss to the system board. But assuredly you already know the difference between volatile and non-volatile memory...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 6, 17 8:32 PM
Did you even read the memo that was obtained from the Freedom of Information Request? No, you didn't. Had you read it, you'd see the stats you've quoted are from complaints contained in the DOJ correspondence log. That' the extent of it.... unsubstantiated complaints now posted on an Occupy Democrats click bait site claiming bipartisanship. Pathetic.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 6, 17 11:29 PM
Dow 24,000 is so last week — how about 25,000 by the end of THIS week?

MAGA !!!
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 4, 17 8:09 PM
Press: Michael Flynn changes the game
By Bill Press, 12/04/17 06:30 PM EST


We have no idea how the Mueller investigation will end. But one thing we know for sure: Nothing the White House says about it is true. It is not, as Donald Trump, repeatedly insists, a “witch hunt” or “fake news,” dreamed up by Democrats to undermine his election. And it is not, as Trump attorney Ty Cobb suggests, “winding down” anytime soon.

The indictment of ...more
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 4, 17 8:52 PM
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"Collusion may not be a crime...." It adds up to a crime when, e.g., participants collude in a criminal conspiracy which in this case was to violate The Logan Act. They--Flynn, Pence, trump, trump Jr., Sessions, Preibus, Kushner, et. al.--lied because they knew they were committing a crime and were the first members of a presidential transition team in US history to negotiate U.S. policy without any color of authority. And with a hostile government to boot. There you have violation of The ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 4, 17 9:16 PM

trump in Utah:
"Christmas is back, bigger and better than ever before...and we say it now with pride."

Jesuit Fr. James Martin‏:
1.) Christmas never left.
2.) Christmas is about littleness. God entered the world as a poor, small, helpless infant, the most vulnerable state imaginable.
3.) Christmas is about humility. God lowered himself, "emptied himself," to enter into the human condition.


By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 4, 17 8:54 PM
Patagonia to sue Trump for shrinking national monuments

By Jacquelin Thomsen - 12/04/17 06:56 PM EST


“We have fallen heirs to the most glorious heritage a people ever received, and each one must do his part if we wish to show that the nation is worthy of its good fortune."

~ Teddy Roosevelt

"Patagonia has been in the fight to protect public lands for almost 30 years— and we are proud to have played a part in the establishment of several national ...more
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 4, 17 10:54 PM
Stalin once said "Bring me the man and I will find the crime".
Same ideology, different day.

Flynn fired by the Trump Administration for lying , has turned state’s evidence against the White House and agreed to cooperate with rogue prosecutor Robert Mueller and his endless game of pin the tail on the Trump.

How any of it amounts to “colluding” with Russia to rig last year’s election is beyond the imagination of any sane, rational person. But here in ...more
Dec 5, 17 6:22 AM appended by They call me
Collusion is total fake news! Also, even if it is true, I fully support Trump for doing everything necessary to stop crooked Hillary and save America!
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 5, 17 6:22 AM
Notice the sleight of hand folks: "even if it is true [that the Trump campaigne solicited and received material support from a foreign government] I fully support Trump!"

Get ready to hear an echo of "collusion is no big deal" from Republicans.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 5, 17 7:04 AM
Nice to know a "right winger" supports treason.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 5, 17 8:43 PM
Collusion is a big deal. It just didn't happen. Collusion is also not necessarily treason. But a coup d'état most certainly is treason and that's exactly what has been transpiring since the legitimate election of Donald Trump committed by both the media and loyalists to the establishment and political party led seemingly by the newest revelations of corruption within the FBI.
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Dec 6, 17 7:43 AM
Nope, nope, and nope. Mueller's team is calm and collective. Trump is Tweeting nonsense, and sweating bullets. FOUR guilty pleas, and no Federal offenses = no pardons. Mueller is playing it quite well.

Please do explain this away:

“At least 12 Trump associates had contacts with Russians during the campaign or transition. There were at least 19 face-to-face interactions with Russians or Kremlin-linked figures. There were at least 51 communications — meetings, phone ...more
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 6, 17 7:52 PM
OF course Mueller's team is calm and collective...they think they're untouchable. Just like Capone before the ax came down on him. FOUR guilty pleas, and no Federal offenses = no pardons = one shiny turd you're polishing.

Explain away what? Your source does a really good job on its own... "Some interactions were straightforward, like a public handshake with the Russian ambassador." Contacts don't mean collusion. It's pretty simple...but then again, it's NEVER been about collusion...It's ...more
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 6, 17 11:26 PM
"Shiny Turd"?

Put the KoolAid down. Mueller chose not to allow Federal charges for that specific reason. No pardons. It's about strategy. Plea deals to lesser charges are absolutely no sign of innocence whatsoever. Mueller's team is made up of former federal prosecutors, SCOTUS clerks, Ivy League graduates, and major law firms like Wilmer & Hale.

Keep clinging to your crooked hero, maybe it will actually snap you back to reality when the final bough breaks and you can drown ...more
Dec 7, 17 1:25 AM appended by Mr. Z
Fair bet Mueller's team is way smarter than an internet troll.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 7, 17 1:25 AM
What "Mueller chose?" Seriously? He charged Flynn with what he could - a low level offense far removed from the focus of the investigation that was deemed as insignificant by Comey. Mueller's team is made up of largely Democratic sympathizers.

You may think those who question the investigation to be KoolAid drinking clingers, but what we're clinging to is Justice. That which hasn't been applied and that which is over reaching.
Dec 7, 17 12:53 PM appended by Po Boy
~ Alan Dershowitz - "So, despite the banner headlines calling the Flynn guilty plea a "thunderclap," I think it may be a show of weakness on the part of the special counsel rather than a sign of strength. So far he has had to charge potential witnesses with crimes that bear little or no relationship to any possible crimes committed by current White House incumbents. Mueller would have much preferred to indict Flynn for conspiracy or some other crime directly involving other people, but he apparently lacks the evidence to do so." I think Alan Dershowitz is smarter than an internet troll.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 12:53 PM
Obviously you have no idea what "plea bargain" means.

Not surprising.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 7, 17 1:48 PM
"Federal charges" that you mentioned earlier, and now "plea bargain" are two different things. "No pardons" which you also mentioned has nothing to do with either. Most notable is what Flynn was NOT charged with and that is any acknowledgement of the scheme, aka...collusion. But we've come to learn it's NEVER been about Russia or collusion. That's a well play tactic fabricated by the Left. It's always been about removing a legitimately elected president.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 3:49 PM
You're really not that bright, are you?

A FEDERAL OFFENSE is required for a pardon. If you are charged at the state level, a presidential pardon IS NOT POSSIBLE.

That is why Mueller set up the charges in the manner he did. It ties Trump's hands, and he can't pardon ANYONE Mueller has or will indict.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 7, 17 4:59 PM
"Can't pardon"....Well of course Trump can pardon. Flynn for example plead to a federal offense...lying to the FBI. What you are referring to is what COULD happen. Mueller’s charges and Flynn’s plea still leave open the POSSIBILITY of state charges, just in case Trump pardons Flynn federally. Prediction: Flynn will get pardoned and Mueller will be in no position to refile state charges.

That one came back to bite you, eh ZEinstein?
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 10:22 PM
If he pardons ANY of them, it could come back to haunt him for possible obstruction. So yeah, OK he could. But, it would be a bona fide stupid move. So, possibly par for the course.

Manafort especially could face charges in the Southern District of New York. Let's not forget the recent subpoena of DuetscheBank as well. I wish then all luck. They're going to need all they can get. Four flips is better than a hat trick...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 7, 17 10:45 PM
can any of our resident leftists show PROOF that somehow Russian operatives pulled the lever for Trump in last years' Presidential election?
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 5, 17 7:02 AM
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Remember: Bill Clinton wasn't impeached over the subject of the Special Counsel's investigation (Vince Foster and Whitewater real estate dealings) but he was impeached over wrongdoing uncovered in the course of the investigation.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 5, 17 7:09 AM
There it is...what the Left has wanted all along...impeachment. They will sleep better at night having been vindicated from a "stolen" election which really was a result of a crappy candidate having left a country further scarred and divided in the process after fully investigating... nothing...but with high hopes and gleeful anticipation of manufacturing something to sink their gnarly little teeth in and the end, victoriously state with pious vigor, "we told you so."
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 5, 17 8:51 AM
I'll take two.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 5, 17 9:00 AM
"Bring me the man and I will find the crime".
Same ideology, different day
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 5, 17 1:35 PM
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Let's not be so naive. Disinformation and propaganda have been successfully wielded many times by your Russian friends. Comrade Drumpf is just the latest benefactor. That Putin is so smart!, our child- coward-liar in-chief.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 5, 17 1:48 PM
President Trump does not need your $ He does not drink, he does not do drugs.there is no collusion, They have nothing on him for he seems to tell the truth.....

Corinthians 15:51-52 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,at the last trump:for the trumpet shall sound,and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,and we shall be changed.

Trumpets for the Dumno Val

MAGA
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 5, 17 3:29 PM
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By Nero (234), Sag Harbor on Dec 5, 17 4:26 PM
For starters, K.T. McFarland vouched for it.

Secondly, there's a reason why it's called an "investigation". Thirdly, there have been not only four indictments, but four guilty pleas. That is ordinarily indicative of someone trying to pull their own fat out of the fire.

Wake up.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 5, 17 8:31 PM
@ Po Boy:

Quote:

"'1. McCabe's wife takes $500k from Terry MacCaulife'

"It's unsupportable nonsense. Pure fantasy."

Terry McAuliffe's PAC donated to campaign of FBI official's wife.
By/ Julia Boccagno/ CBS News/ October 24, 2016, 1:01 PM

Unsupportable my you know what...

By Po Boy (489), Water Mill on Dec 4, 17 12:59 PM"
-----------------------------------

Yet more casuistry on your part, Po Boy. The implication of this statement ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 5, 17 8:46 AM
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By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 5, 17 8:51 AM
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By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 5, 17 12:16 PM
LMFAO...

"When the FBI officially launched the investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s server, Andrew McCabe was running the bureau’s D.C. field office, which allocated resources and personnel to the email probe. It wasn’t until February 2016 that he became deputy director, however."
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 6, 17 8:47 AM
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By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 5, 17 6:08 PM
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Yep. Just like phil and I are the same person, and June is my duplicate profile.

"Baby, you are SO talented. And they are so DUMB."

~ Cleavon Little as Bart, "Blazing Saddles" (1974)
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 5, 17 8:35 PM
Phil and you are not the same person because we know who you both are! June on the other hand dose seem to be a relative of yours. Your Mammy, Nyanya June , June the Great or Auntie June ?
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 5, 17 9:24 PM
What a shame. A Right-Winger whom I previously respected in debate has abandoned reasonable discussion and gotten on board with his infantile colleagues' despicable innuendos.

Proof of the admonition:
"Qui cum canibus concumbunt cum pulicibus surgent."
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 6, 17 6:49 AM
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HHS, while you are busy serving, the world is moving on.....US to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, will move embassy...
Dec 6, 17 12:04 PM appended by Ditch Bum
Its huge victory for Western Civilization, a victory on the scale of Marathon and Thermopylae, Salamis and Platea, Metaurus and Zama, Adrianople, Adrianople, Tours and Vienna, Hastings and Trenton. It is a huge defeat to not only the Terrorists, Barbarians and anti-American loons but the well organized, well funded and well armed anti-American Globalists. For we have once again two sovereign nations, the USA and Israel; vigorously, robustly, and proudly showing their sovereignty to the world. No longer will sovereignty be surrendered to enemies outside, at, or within the gates.
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 6, 17 12:04 PM

Last week democrats were all CPAs and experts in taxation and cash flow as it relates to job production and salary trends.

This week they are all experts in Arab- Christian relations and 2000 yrs
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on Dec 6, 17 6:49 AM
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Still waiting for one of our leftists here to back up their assertion that "the Russians" actually pulled the lever for Trump.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 6, 17 7:52 AM
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Putin caused the voting machines to register votes for Trump!

Oh and your unreal nonsense about Uranium one and the kids in the pool and hillary's server and seth rich is a hysterical republican conspiracy theory!

how democrats thing.
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 6, 17 8:25 AM
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Just look at the news today. President Trump has it all under control.
Dec 6, 17 10:04 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
AVALANCHE: Democratic Senators Turn on Al Franken After Latest Allegations
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 6, 17 10:04 AM
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So you looked at the news and your opinions have been formulated for the day. You turn on your computer and parrot the sentiment you’ve just been spoon fed. Huh. Thanks for the confirmation.
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 6, 17 10:19 AM
Trump's approval rating jumps to 45 percent, highest since September
by Anna Giaritelli | Dec 6, 2017, 8:03 AM

President Trump's approval rating increased to 45 percent in the first week of December, the highest mark he's received since September, according to a Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday.
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 6, 17 11:16 AM

but just as in the election, the majority of voters do not believe he is the right man for the job.

Sad!
By johnj (695), Westhampton on Dec 6, 17 11:28 AM
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johnj like the Hills vote " Well that's that then. Can we move on now?
By johnj (689), Westhampton on Dec 6, 17 8:38 AM"

The election was a year ago ! " Can we move on now " ?
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 6, 17 12:01 PM
Yes, let's:

trump’s day so far:

- Fredo (trump Jr) incriminates Hope Hicks
- Hope Hicks will incriminate trump
- Worst round of Family Feud ever
- Someone call Steve Harvey
- No wonder trump slurring words*
- They’re all going to prison
- Robert Mueller is making popcorn
- It’s still only 6pm
* Hey,Undocumented Dem: if the cult leader doesn't drink or do drugs as you've stated with all authority, any thoughts on the slurring? ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 6, 17 6:02 PM
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Just wait.

There are more indictments dropping soon.

Just because there is a "focus" to an investigation does not mean any other discovery of malfeasance is to be ignored. And, especially not by Mueller.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 6, 17 9:04 PM
That's funny coming from someone who supports an administration that can't stop talking about the Clintons, Obama, the election, and on and on.

Lame duck President.
By johnj (695), Westhampton on Dec 7, 17 8:46 AM
Electoral college rules,campaigning would have been done differently if popular vote ruled. Get over it, he outsmarted y'all and will continue to succeed. MAGA
By Taz (316), East Quogue on Dec 6, 17 11:48 AM
“What people focus on is, ‘Did someone mess with the vote totals?'
What they don’t realize is that messing with the e-poll books to keep people from voting is just as effective.’”

~ Susan Greenhalgh
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 6, 17 9:25 PM
Motor voter is pretty effective too.

"The greatest threat to the constitutional right to vote is voter fraud."

~ Lynn Westmoreland
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Dec 6, 17 11:13 PM
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are you claiming that "the Russians" somehow did this JuneZ?
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 7, 17 6:41 AM
Ask K.T. McFarland.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 7, 17 7:40 AM
as terrible as obama was, i'm thankful that mcCain and romney were both never elected president. They are literally no different than democrats. had they won, there would have never been a president trump!
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Dec 6, 17 5:37 PM
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@ Po Boy:

Quote:

"LMFAO...

"When the FBI officially launched the investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s server, Andrew McCabe was running the bureau’s D.C. field office, which allocated resources and personnel to the email probe. It wasn’t until February 2016 that he became deputy director, however."
-------------------------------------------------

Right-Wingers are truly blind to their bias. Do you also LYFAO over The Donald's denial of his ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 7, 17 6:57 AM
Right-Wingers don't like the Russians. the Russians don't like the Left-Wingers and the Left-Wingers don't like anything.
By pw herman (727), southampton on Dec 7, 17 8:16 AM
No Hat, I LFMFAO in disgust at the bias of the Left when elements of their kind are protected and treated distinctly differently than those on the Right by what is supposed to be the premier law enforcement agency of the nation. Always look closely at what Leftists are accusing you of, there in lies the answer.

Blind to bias? How is McCabe different you ask? Well, other than clear evidence of at minimum the illusion of impropriety of one (McCabe) and lack of any evidence on the other (Trump), ...more
Dec 7, 17 8:25 AM appended by Po Boy
Oh, btw, my initial "LMFAO" was directed to a comment I made that was permitted for almost two days and then deleted a day after your comment was deleted. Makes one wonder of the mysterious dynamic and favor that goes on behind the SHP curtain.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 8:25 AM
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Muller needs to be fired enough of this already ! It has yielded nothing and just a witch hunt at this point ! Time to end this madness Mr.President
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 7, 17 8:13 AM
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For the record: four people have been charged with crimes, and two of them have pled guilty, all were part of then-candidate Trump's campaign.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 7, 17 8:26 AM
For the record, none of it has been shown to have anything to do with Trump.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 8:37 AM
There's the outstanding question of whether Trump directed Trump Jr. to lie about his meeting with a Russian attorney that has Kremlin ties. I noticed he "invoked attorney-client privilege" (even though neither he nor Trump are lawyers) to avoid answering that yesterday.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 7, 17 8:46 AM
More delusional posts from Joe, two have already pled guilty. What are afraid of, if your innocent you've got nothing to worry about. The tangerine toddler could have stopped a lot of speculation with releasing his tax returns.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 7, 17 9:06 AM
Look you A , talk about delusional ! You are trying to find a crime to fit the man. Meanwhile you have blaring evidence in the case of Uranium 1, felonies with the server in the bathroom,meeting on the tarmac,destruction of evidence and the foundation! You have FBI cover ups of the Clinton's, Holder, Lynch possible all the way up to Obama and you do not even speak of this ! you think your cute but you know deep down the swamp is just trying to save its own A before its too late.
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 7, 17 11:27 AM
Let's talk about Uranium 1. What is the evidence?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 7, 17 11:37 AM
Lets start with pay to play . I will go slow so you can answer in turn ... You can not use your public office "Secretary of State" to confer a benefit to a foreign government in exchange for $ ... and because she used her charity it would be akin to the same type Racketeering that the government goes after organized crime groups.

* 18 USC 201-B FEDERAL BRIBERY STATUTE
* 18 USC 201-C FEDERAL GRATUITY STATUTE
* 18 USC 1341: MAIL FRAUD STATUTE
* 18 USC 1343: WIRE FRAUD STATUTE
* ...more
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 7, 17 11:56 AM
Back to Uranium 1: what benefit was conferred?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 7, 17 2:08 PM
Don't play this stupid game Joe, You offered a real response and got back a second question instead of a response.

Fore and Z have drank so much of the Kool Aid they are a lost cause. Anyone with a half a brain can see what your talking about and if the Attorney General ever as the balls to do his job you will see the whole card house come down real quick!
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 7, 17 4:41 PM
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The "Pee Papers" are a long shadow.

Face it, Trump looks more guilty with every indictment. As far as Uranium One, the only place it exists as prosecutable is in a GOP fantasyland. "Clinton Cash" has been debunked. Even Schweizer himself stated there was no evidence of a quid pro quo.

Gullible
Old
Party
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 7, 17 5:09 PM
Find a crime, they already pled guilty. In your delusional world, when someone pleads guilty, they're guilty. Unless your the pig, bigoted sheriff from Arizona.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 7, 17 6:37 PM
"Face it, Trump looks more guilty with every indictment."

Of what?
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 10:52 PM
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Easiest to prove: obstruction of justice

After the Duetsche Bank subpoena information is tallied, we'll see about possible money laundering. I wonder who tipped Mueller for that subpoena? Perhaps Popadopoulos?
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 7, 17 11:00 PM
You mean obstruction of injustice. Interesting dynamic given Comey is a leaker and liar.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 11:28 PM
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That's the problem with talking to Trumpets. To shout "lock her up!" and "Clinton crime family!" sounds and feels good, but the moment you start getting into specifics they're out of their depth.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 8, 17 6:47 AM
Ho Hum Fore... you don't think Comey being a leaker and liar is relevant to a he said he said aimed at Trump?

You don't think $145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation from elements close to the Uranium One deal is suspect, it's mis-accounting of those donations concerning, and especially suspect when donations plummet when she loses her political clout? All specifics mind you.

By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 8, 17 7:35 AM
My question was quite precise: what did the Russian government receive in exchange?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 8, 17 8:09 AM
Your deflection was even more precise.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 8, 17 12:04 PM
I'm attempting to remain laser-focused on one thing: what did the Russian government receive in exchange?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 8, 17 2:34 PM
Zeldin is now channeling Toy Moore. He's so desperate for attention he's taking handouts from sleazy white nationalist/neo-Nazi wingnuts. It's true and pathetic that the 1st Congressional District leans right, but is it now flopping into fascist territory?
By Jolly Roger (4), Southampton on Dec 7, 17 11:25 AM
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ok there, Antifa Roger you should go look up the definition of fascist and take a look at the Obama administration! Its just that your an anti capitalist at heart, most likely a teacher or government worker, you like knowing there is a government safety net for you when you fall. Only trouble is it never turns out that way, your socialist dream is just that.... a faculty room dream.

Ask anyone from the former USSR about your little nanny state fantasy's, then go put on some big boy pants ...more
Dec 7, 17 11:36 AM appended by They call me
Trump / 2020! Moore Dec / 12! Jerusalem as Israel’s Capital / Yesterday! MAGA!
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 7, 17 11:36 AM
I bet if Roger is a teacher he knows the correct way to pluralize "fantasy"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 7, 17 11:38 AM
Uranium one is a non-starter and always has been. The timeline just does not add up with the donations. Tit for Tat does not exist except in your own fantasy world.

Clinton Cash may as well be in work of fiction.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 7, 17 1:58 PM
Uranium one is a non-starter and always has been because the FBI and the Obama DOJ simply wouldn't investigate it to the extent it involved the Clinton Crime Family. $144 million from special interests Clinton Fund prior to the Uranium One deal. Those who choose to turn a blind eye are free to do so, the others who know the stench of corruption when they see it will have their opinion. Yes, the foundation received money and Bill Clinton was paid to give a speech, but there’s no evidence the ...more
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 10:11 PM
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How many people were involved in approving Uranium One?
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 7, 17 10:57 PM
One very influential one and many others. It's the reason the Russians were bribing people and why they went deep into the pockets of the Clinton Foundation.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 11:12 PM
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Schweizer: "No quid pro quo"


Gullible
Old
Party
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 9, 17 5:47 PM
If Steve Bannon supports Lee Zeldin .... then I'll no longer vote for Zeldin.
Anything that smacks of Bannon's stench or Trump's stupidity and arrogance is something I want to distance myself from and will work to defeat !
By jediscuba (24), Suthampton on Dec 7, 17 12:32 PM
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Israel should not take precedence over the USA, which is mired in the muck of Trumpism. Boo Lee Zeldin!
By Moni (9), Est Hampton on Dec 7, 17 12:42 PM
How is Israel, “taking precedence”? Please explain.
By Sturgis (252), Southampton on Dec 7, 17 9:09 PM
@ Po Boy:

Quote:

"clear evidence of at minimum the illusion of impropriety"
______________________________

Speaking of LMFAO, do you have any other evidence that you consider to be "clear evidence of illusion"? One appreciates you use of this phrase that so aptly describes the Right-Wing's analysis of every Democratic behavior to which it can impute a base motivation - - - including ALL the events that you mention.

The FACTS are that there is as much ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 7, 17 4:08 PM
Evidence? Please do tell hat... what is this evidence you speak of?What are these actions that make him "unfit for office.? That's so absurd it continues to be simply laughable. So far we've been told the President isn't even under investigation.

I made no reference to you specifically in my deleted post Hat, only what I don't engage in. How you or the fine editors interpret that is entirely on you.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 10:03 PM
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 4:43 PM
For how long remains to be seen.

Russian hacking and interference are not a legitimate way to be elected. I know it's hard for you to accept, and denial is a stinky cologne.


Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

Best,
Don
Sent ...more
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 7, 17 5:01 PM
Back to recycling old posts eh Mr. Z. Classic...and desperate. The smart money is on 7 more years in the Oval Office for President Trump. If by some long shot that doesn't happen, it will be the result of a travesty of justice and a successful coup.

Think of it this way. Myself, DitchBum, 27 Dan, They Call me, Erin, Undocumented Democrat, joe hampton and a few others will be leading an investigation of you. There are no boundaries to the investigation. We will be looking into all your ...more
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 9:55 PM
Just a friendly reminder of how Donald Jr. said "I love it" to Russian dirt on Hillary Clinton.

Nope, no attempt to glean information from a hostile foreign entity there...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 7, 17 10:51 PM
Still, not a crime but keep trying.
Dec 7, 17 11:02 PM appended by Po Boy
By definition, a criminal conspiracy exists when two or more people agree to commit almost any unlawful act, then take some action toward its completion. Never happened. Meanwhile, the Democrat machine fabricated derogatory information paying millions to do so and using it as the basis for a bogus collusion investigation.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 7, 17 11:02 PM
The Daily News said a lot on the front page the other day.

"Perversion of Justice"

"Franken Resigns in Shame While GOP Embraces Accused Sickos Moore & Trump"
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 9, 17 5:46 PM
Drip. Drip. Drip.....

Trump’s approval rating has hit a new low, according to a national poll released Thursday.

The Pew Research Center poll finds that just 32 percent of Americans polled approve of how trump is handling his job as president, while 63 percent say they disapprove.

Trump’s approval rating is down 2 points from the previous Pew poll conducted in October, which was itself down from the 39 percent in polls going back to February.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 7, 17 9:04 PM
All I know is everyone I speak to approves
By widow gavits (138), sag harbor on Dec 7, 17 10:55 PM
I know I do !!!
By Biba (344), East Hampton on Dec 7, 17 11:30 PM
Me as well, Keep up the excellent work President Trump !
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 8, 17 12:50 AM
United States v. Richard M. Nixon, President of the United States

United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683 (1974), was a landmark United States Supreme Court case which resulted in a unanimous decision against President Richard Nixon, ordering him to deliver tape recordings and other subpoenaed materials to a federal district court. Issued on July 24, 1974, the decision was important to the late stages of the Watergate scandal, when there was an ongoing impeachment process against Richard Nixon. ...more
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 8, 17 5:43 AM
I love your tortured soul and defeated spirit. Nobody is saving you from this. It’s all happening and you nuts will survive. Barely.
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on Dec 8, 17 6:11 AM
We're all in this boat together, please remember that it's women and children first when it sinks. Which will probably happen after mass wealth is expatriated rather than re-invested once the Tax Scam gets signed into law.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 8, 17 6:53 AM
Thank you Mr Greenspan for explaining this for us.
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 8, 17 8:52 AM
Just be sure to let us know if your kids' wages go up next year, TCM.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 8, 17 11:05 AM
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By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 8, 17 8:07 AM
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Al Franken is not going away. He is going to run as a Republican. It is now common knowledge that he possesses the qualities most admired by right wing voters.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 8, 17 9:00 AM
He's sick like you.
By pw herman (727), southampton on Dec 8, 17 9:26 AM
A Rasmussen poll released on Wednesday shows first lady Melania Trump’s approval ratings among likely voters has risen once again
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 8, 17 9:32 AM
melania speaks six languages, she loves our lord, and she loves our country. What’s not to like?
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Dec 8, 17 9:37 AM
If Michelle had posed naked for photos ya'll would have had a fit.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 8, 17 10:58 AM
"....she loves our lord"? OmG, doesn't step foot in a church until a photo op is required, botches the recitation of the Lord's Prayer, but you KNOW based on what? Like your kids ogling those nude photos of her on the internet, do ya'?
Apparently, she has never heard of the Ten Commandments to wit: She's a birther (lying) she cribbed and delivered Michelle Obama's speeches (theft), she worked in the US illegally on her arrival (lawbreaking), lied about her schooling (lying), defends ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 8, 17 12:33 PM
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By Sturgis (252), Southampton on Dec 9, 17 6:01 AM
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What a horrific thought! That's something no one should have to see.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 9, 17 7:57 AM
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By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 9, 17 9:54 AM
See, I don't think posing naked for a magazine is a reflection of bad character, but until 2016 many conservatives would have.

Additionally, attacking a woman for her looks is disgusting and I hope nobody treats your daughters, wives, sisters, or mothers that way.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 9, 17 5:58 PM
GOODBYE OBAMA. You and your eight years of 1.9% GDP are over. Barry said no one could wave a magic wand to bring manufacturing back, then Trump waved his MAGA hat and Made America Great Again!

Trump 2020Winning: Trump Jobs Boom + Brexit Lift Global Stocks

228,000 New Jobs in November, Unemployment Still at 17-Year-Low
by AP 8 Dec 2017

US JOBS: U.S. employers added a robust 228,000 jobs in November, a sign of the job market’s enduring strength and economic recovery. ...more
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 8, 17 9:20 AM
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hooray!
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Dec 8, 17 9:23 AM
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Well well well...

ROY MOORE ACCUSER ADMITS SHE FORGED PART OF YEARBOOK INSCRIPTION ATTRIBUTED TO ALABAMA SENATE CANDIDATE.

Congratulations Mr. Senator.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 8, 17 12:08 PM
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This is an outrageously false claim by @FoxNews. She wrote a date and location below his creepy note. He used script, she used block print. Somewhere in America, a mom is writing “Johnny, 4th grade-12/8/17” on a crayon drawing before she posts it on a fridge. Is she a forger too?
Don't you yokels tire of the egg perpetually plastered on your faces? Jaysus, you fall for all their stupid skata every single time.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 8, 17 1:04 PM
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…ALLRED STILL WON’T TURN OVER FOR 3RD-PARTY VERIFICATION

It is in a word Treasonous.
She is attempting to circumvent the democratic process and bring down a person running for Federal Office by way of deceit in order to have an Anti-American elected in his place. Sue the woman for everything she has. people like this must be stopped.
Dec 8, 17 1:24 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
She deserves to be in prison. "And then, after a woman admits to forging a document ... ABC News quickly moves on as though it is not news of extraordinary consequence." This is not how journalism works. What a disgrace. Allred is an abomination. Her legal specialty is Demonizing Men. Always has been.The real win would be to see Gloria Allred dis-barred for this!
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 8, 17 1:24 PM
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So which part was altered, UD?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 8, 17 2:33 PM
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Oh don't kid yourself June. It is our party that has the egg on its face !

Right now, I'd say we are total underdogs. I know this seems completely counter intuitive to you, I know you are consumed by your hate for Trump, and I know you are incapable of understanding why we lost and how they are on track to win in 2020.

A Democrat win will require a complete change in direction. The DNC has done nothing for my family or my country but make it harder to win or even maintain what ...more
By local 84 (302), riverhead on Dec 9, 17 9:50 AM
Just say NO to failed presidential candidates.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 9, 17 10:00 AM
Don't you mean screwed over by there own party candidates ?

Just saying ......
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 9, 17 10:03 AM
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Who knew Carnac the Magnificent has been a lurker? How fortuitous that he would appear since only he would know who is "incapable of understanding why we lost", a subject intentionally avoided here where complexity is beyond the realm of the majority of list participants.
Maybe Carnac can also tell us what a trumped-up lie has to do with his bitterness? Or how that bitterness is "positive"? That may be a good starting point for him to "change direction", n'est pas?
Dec 9, 17 12:41 PM appended by June Bug
Both parties are in shambles and both are addicted to/reliant on campaign $$ and special interest politics. The resulting general disgust might take us to a place we haven't seen in our recent history with a party and standardbearer presently unknown. We need good (uniting) leadership, a party that stands for healthcare for all, economic fairness, protection of the planet, good governance, and other common goals. JMHO.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 9, 17 12:41 PM
JuneZ, the one and only reason the Democrat Party lost the last presidential election is that Hillary was the worst candidate possible! A rotten human being, corrupt to the core. I mean she lost to Trump for Shiite's sake.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 9, 17 1:06 PM
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Told you complexity isn't a yokel strong suit.
"A rotten human being, corrupt to the core." That's just way too kind describing your boy.
Dec 9, 17 1:15 PM appended by June Bug
Oh, and btw, bigfresh, 3 million more Americans voted for her over the conman running a family criminal enterprise out of Oval Office, the subject of a national counter espionage investigation and/or massive financial fraud under the RICO statutes. And you're talking "corruption"?
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 9, 17 1:15 PM
Please lady there is nothing humble about your opinions. Face it you stole the candidacy from Mr. Sanders and payed the price.

Hillary operatives like you, Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazile own this mess.
Dec 9, 17 1:22 PM appended by local 84
Before you correct me, yes i know its "Paid" and not Payed, i don't do this for a living all day like you
By local 84 (302), riverhead on Dec 9, 17 1:22 PM
Oh Snaaaap, a scathing rebuttal !
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 9, 17 1:34 PM
He WON the election JuneZ and all the fake news, fake charges and liberal bet wetting doesn't change that fact.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 9, 17 1:37 PM
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Firstly, you falsely assume I was a Hillary Clinton supporter. The only thing you know is whom I did not vote for.
Secondly, there is no basis for your absolute certainty that Bernie Sanders would have beaten the Imposter-in-Chief. Do some research on the (illegal) workings of the American and Russian conspirers and how they orchestrated trump's victory, conspirers who would have gone to the same lengths to beat Sanders. Perhaps then you'll realize you should be more alarmed than angry.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 9, 17 3:24 PM
how ridiculous , you should do some research into file gate, the clinton foundation and uranium one, after that look up the dossier russian connection and dnc corruption for starters. after that refresh yourself with benghazi and fast and furious as well as the huge sums of cash that left in unmarked currencies in the dead of night for Iran!

But thankfully all off that is over now and president trump is in charge.
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Dec 9, 17 3:39 PM
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Large and in charge, and will be for a very long time, 7 more years of common sense transparant no bulls*-! leadership that the world has no choice but to take seriously and the thugs twice as much! Make America Great Again !
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 9, 17 3:45 PM
Behold a perfect summary of Faux News/Breitbart/True Pundit/NewsMax indoctrination of the under-educated.
Oh, and Hon, it's long past time you learned that the PEOPLE are in charge in America.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 9, 17 5:15 PM
Since for some reason we're back on Uranium One, can someone respond to my unanswered question above: What did the Russian government receive in exchange?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 9, 17 5:21 PM
Please provide some PROOF that the Russians came here en masse and voted for Trump, Hillary was a horrible candidate, did "the Russians" somehow get her nominated? Seems as if the corrupt Democrat Party did that without any help from outside the country and used the MSM , their tried and true propaganda machine, to eliminate Burned out Sanders as a candidate.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 10, 17 9:11 AM
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2.2 Million New Jobs Since Election...
Record low unemployment rate for manufacturing...
Hispanic unemployment rate drops to 4.7% - LOWEST in history of USA

JOBS TRUMP EXPECTATIONS
+228,000 NOVEMBER

WOW BOOM ! Nice to see things getting back to normal again . MAGA !
Dec 8, 17 12:46 PM appended by 27dan
Trump, Mattis turn military loose on ISIS, leaving terror caliphate in tatters. Generals say after Obamas exit Trump gave them the authority to finally execute the plans they have had on the drawing board for over 2 years. This has allowed the military to drive ISIS out of key Territory's leaving them with just under 3% of Iraq and Syria. Trump credits his generals saying together they have done more in 8 months then Obama did in 8 years!
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 8, 17 12:46 PM
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While cynically libeling a complete innocent as an incarcerated homosexual pedophile because he isn't of their creed, Right-Wingers bend over backwards to exonerate a serial sexual predator who is one of their brethren.

Loathsome.



By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 8, 17 5:01 PM
Fraud to tilt an election. Once again we see it Dems colluding, conspiring, and committing crime to throw elections.

But who is under investigation??
Dec 8, 17 5:34 PM appended by Ditch Bum
…LIMBAUGH: ‘THE PERP HAS ADMITTED SHE FORGED IT’
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 8, 17 5:34 PM
A new poll released Friday afternoon by Change Research of the Alabama U.S. Senate special election to be held next Tuesday shows conservative Republican Roy Moore leads liberal Democrat Doug Jones by seven points among likely voters, 51 percent to 44 percent.

New poll by the fake arse media showing Roy up by 5-7 points should show him leading by 9 - 12 points.. Stop over sampling liberals
Dec 9, 17 9:59 AM appended by 27dan
June, Metz, Z, HHS, If you hate the United States so much, may i suggest you emigrate, maybe to Venezuela or Zimbabwe or Yemen
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 9, 17 9:59 AM
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president trump covered all the bases in his great speech this week. president trump also remembered all his bases of support. what a great president! you want to listen to president trump directly, not media reporters with their interpretation, their opinions which are twisted, distorted and fake news .

god thank you, we love our president, god we give thanks and praise in your glorious name!

By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Dec 9, 17 2:02 PM
Al Franken says he'll be a shoe-in if he runs for senate in Alabama. Considering his qualifications, core values, and predatory nature, he couldn't possibly lose, since he has everything Alabamians prize most in a candidate.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 9, 17 3:42 PM
Not a fair assessment of the situation and you know it.

Alabamians are not going to vote a late term abortion advocating liberal to a key Senate position because of a lying woman, her forgery and man hating attorney and a handful of unsubstantiated allegations.

Sorry if the allegations are show in the future to be true we will remove the Judge and put a Conservative in his place. Nothing left to talk about here. Enjoy your evening.
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 9, 17 3:53 PM
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You're right, Alabamians are not pro-pedophilia, they just think it's a lesser evil to abortion.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 9, 17 5:17 PM
...or to place it in crystal clear context, preferred to the Democrat alternative.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 9, 17 7:07 PM
Right, Bamers are not pro-pedophilia, they just think it's a lesser evil to the Democrat alternative.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 9, 17 7:19 PM
Aligns totally with concern of fanatics for life in the womb, and less to none outside the womb. As in have the baby regardless of its quality of life. Neglect or molestation? No biggie.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 9, 17 9:23 PM
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By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 9, 17 9:23 PM
No laws were broken age of consent in Alabama at the time was 14. You all seem to conveniently forget that back then people were not so up tight about an older man dating a younger woman. I suggest you take a look at some old movies or songs, James Bond or You 16 your beautiful and your mine. It is only recently that a man can only date a woman at least his own age but a woman is encouraged to date man 15 20 even 30 years younger. The man is a monster the woman (or cougar) is so cool.

Get ...more
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 10, 17 1:41 AM
I don't know anything about age-of-consent law in 1980s Alabama, but slavery, marital rape, and anti-miscegenation laws were once legal too, that didn't make them right.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 10, 17 7:19 AM
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What an evil bit of blather JuneZ, how can any moral person not be a "fanatic for life in the womb"?
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 10, 17 9:15 AM
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Guess that makes Jesus and many doctors of the church "evil".
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 10, 17 11:36 AM
Nice call UD.

Care to make a SuperBowl prediction? Pending the odds, I'll pick the opposing team...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 12, 17 10:57 PM
Where was your God when it came to mass shootings in Las Vegas and Sunderland Texas. Where is your god when it comes to petulance, disease, wars, famine, Donald Trump, and genocide. Some system he has ( could't be a women, because you enjoy your second-class citizen status.), he gets praised when something goes well, it's man's fault when it goes bad. Did you give thanks and praise to god for giving guns to the mass shooters.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 9, 17 3:50 PM
Still no sanctions against Russia. Our treasonous tangerine toddler has trouble pulling the trigger against our arch enemy, why is that?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 9, 17 3:52 PM
Guess you missed this a few lines up

Trump, Mattis turn military loose on ISIS, leaving terror caliphate in tatters. Generals say after Obamas exit Trump gave them the authority to finally execute the plans they have had on the drawing board for over 2 years. This has allowed the military to drive ISIS out of key Territory's leaving them with just under 3% of Iraq and Syria. Trump credits his generals saying together they have done more in 8 months then Obama did in 8 years!
By 27dan ...more
Dec 9, 17 3:55 PM appended by They call me
Radical Islam is our enemy not Russia
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 9, 17 3:55 PM
LOL, yes, it was radical Islam that was found to have interfered in our election by our collective intelligence apparatus.

Great pirouette around the question of why Russian sanctions, passed by congress overwhelmingly, haven't been signed into law by POTUS.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 9, 17 5:17 PM
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It's ok everyone just take it easy President Trump is just initiating a Russian reset
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 10, 17 1:33 AM
So he really DOESN'T want to carry out the sanctions? That's strange.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 10, 17 7:15 AM
Still want to cozy up to Russia, treasonous anti-american poster. See what Russia does when it wants to put Assad back in power.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 10, 17 8:39 AM
I agree with TCM . Just saying, if i had to make a choice it would be very easy, i would rather live in Russia than Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan or Tunisia

In some ways Russia and the far East are the only places left that has not been tainted by radical Islam.
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 10, 17 11:20 AM
Of course you would. Putin is your hero.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 11, 17 5:58 AM
All this Roy Moore talk is fascinating except one major detail. Evidence. And so far the only evidence was found to be faked.
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on Dec 10, 17 5:09 AM
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Can you please be more precise? What part of the evidence was faked?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 10, 17 7:15 AM
All of the evidence is that he pursued vigorously and was predator of underage girls, while in his thirties.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 10, 17 8:41 AM
NO! They were not under age at the time, in Alabama ! I have come to believe you just are not capable of getting that fact around you politically correct liberal mind.

You keep wanting to hold this S man to your 2008 Blue state social standards, but it just was not that way, so please stop painting your cute little picture of a predator. He had the parents consent and it has not be proven that he broke any of his contemporary laws.

God now I feel like HHS defending JAY... but ...more
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 10, 17 11:13 AM
Would you not have a verifiable fit if you knew a perv in his 30's was being watched by police trolling Bridgehampton Commons looking for your teen daughter? And how would you like knowing he called the school and your kid was pulled out of math class to take his call? Would you vote for a judge knocked off the judiciary TWICE? Would you vote for someone in the judicial or legislative branch of government who totally disregards the Constitution of the United States? How about the violation ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 10, 17 12:31 PM
You voted for Bill Clinton and Barack Obama!!??

Spare us.
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 10, 17 12:36 PM
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You can only defend Moore's appalling record by making an assumption about the poster? How laughable. How pitiful.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 10, 17 1:49 PM
so he liked to date young woman, all men given the choice that was available to men in 1975 alabama would make the same one. it is biologically the way it is supposed to be. its just not convenient for todays womans movement to admit!

does it bother you when a 44 year old female executive dates a 25 year old "boy toy " and everyone marvels how wonderful it is ?

give it a rest hon. Its not like he was a bill clinton type predator! he was dating with the approval of the girls parents ...more
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Dec 10, 17 2:20 PM

So when was it that you were inducted into Mensa?

You're making some kind of case for the equivalency of a 14 year-old girl and a 25 year-old man? Talk about twisted.
And "biologically the way it's supposed to be"? OMG, now you're a social scientist?
And one more thing, Moore putting a blanket on the floor and having a 14 year-old undress, touching her, asking her to touch him, then telling her not to tell anyone b/c he's a DA, and they won't believe ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 10, 17 3:12 PM
what kind of woman would defend bill clinton for 25 years?

just saying that the laws and customs back then where different and dating much younger girls in there teens was acceptable. see jerry lee lewis, woody allen, frank sinatra, humphrey bogart, rod stewart

songs,

‘I Saw Her Standing There’
The Beatles

From: ‘Please Please Me’ (1963)

A quarter century before Winger recorded ‘Seventeen’ Paul McCartney was working ...more
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Dec 10, 17 11:01 PM
Yes, and I could find old songs celebrating slavery, marital abuse, and date rape as well, that doesn't make those things ok, nor does it mean that they ever were.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 11, 17 6:14 AM
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Oh, so we're cutting and pasting now, Hon? Duly, duly noted!

Perhaps your opening question was merely rhetorical, but if not, I defy you to show me proof of my ever having "defended Bill Clinton".

How dim are you that you don't realize that by finding fault with the reputation of any woman who defended Clinton, you are also finding fault with yourself in defending a crackpot racist and credibly accused child molester.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 12, 17 10:55 AM
Like I said, a perfect candidate for right wing voters whose most important prerequisite is that your a sexual predator. You must be so proud of your family values you so often boast about.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 10, 17 8:47 AM
@ SlimeAlive:

Quote:

"All this Roy Moore talk is fascinating except one major detail. Evidence. And so far the only evidence was found to be faked."
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Here's some evidence for you SlimeAlive (the objective, physical kind, that isn't subject to memory "lapses"):

“A handwriting expert has concluded that the signature in then-16-year-old Beverly Young Nelson’s yearbook was, in fact, Roy Moore’s, ...

'Why ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 10, 17 9:01 AM
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By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 10, 17 9:40 AM
You are a master agitator at best HHS. I will defend BF, It was you that defended Jay more than once in this forum! Would you like me to re post you defence of the discuting acts in your own words ?

As far as your "Evidence" on Roy Moore... First: the woman has now publicly admitted she was the one who added "notes" under Roy's alleged signature. Second: your "hand writing expert" was hired by Gloria Alred the accusers lawyer, Gloria has refused to date to let an independent expert examine ...more
Dec 10, 17 11:02 AM appended by joe hampton
There is no longer a free press and therefore the Fake Media doesn't merit the protection of the 1st amendment... They are CLEARLY political operatives masquerading as a free press.The MSM/MUELLER looks at Trump, and the Republicans, under an Electron-Microscope while they look at Obama, Hillary, and the Democrats, with a BACKWARDS HUBBLE TELESCOPE!Media Matters/Soros/Obama pay for the tens of thousands of Microscopes that search for that one bad cell, out of 70 trillion, to blow it out of proportion just in time for the morning shows and evening news to promote hate. The counter is to call them SORE LOSERS !
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 10, 17 11:02 AM
Apparently the voters disagree with you.

If you support a sexual deviant for President, why not support them all, eh?
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 12, 17 10:56 PM
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By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 10, 17 11:17 AM
Creepy, ain't they ?
By pw herman (727), southampton on Dec 10, 17 4:37 PM
7 Times CNN Botched The News In 2017

June Bug and CNN have had a rough 2017 and it’s not even over yet. The news network has repeatedly made key errors when breaking big stories, only to get embarrassed when the facts come to light.

Here are seven times CNN botched the news and June Bug fell for It in 2017.

Comey Testimony
CNN ran a story on June 6 that claimed former FBI Director James Comey would use his testimony the next day to refute President Donald Trump’s ...more
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 10, 17 11:29 AM
So now we have a nation of dumbed-down media critics. A profession that actually requires credentials is now inhabited by cretins who, in this age of fast-moving events and competition to be first, are unaware that the Fourth Estate has always been imperfect. But, unlike the propagandized trained seals of the right who stand in cement with inaccurate beliefs, it has always printed or stated corrections with apology. How about instead you dopes get into more appropriate high dudgeon over ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 11, 17 12:46 PM
Lol, somebody reads The Daily Caller. No surprise there.
By johnj (695), Westhampton on Dec 11, 17 1:31 PM
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"...the Fourth Estate has always been imperfect."

That's right, JB, only now it's intentional. The Fourth Estate has become a fifth column.
By loading... (511), quiogue on Dec 12, 17 3:33 AM
Weak 14: NFL Stadiums Look Like Ghost Towns As Attendance Crisis Continues
Soon they will only be running half the lights to cut costs...
Drive them into the ground before they can give the 100 mil to Black Lives Matter....

The plague of empty seats which has befallen the National Football League reached biblical proportions this week, as teams continued to find it hard to fill stadiums.While the Green Bay Packers downed the Cleveland Browns in a 27-21 final, not many fans were ...more
Dec 10, 17 11:21 PM appended by Ditch Bum
Keep it up Deplorables, My love for the NFL was great, but my love of country and the veterans who served it is MUCH greater. There sacrifice will NEVER be forgotten. I will never support a bunch of crybaby millionaires who spit in the face of my those hero's who have made the ultimate sacrifice for their country.
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 10, 17 11:21 PM
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You seem to spend a lot of time following the NFL.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 11, 17 12:04 AM
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Still regurgitating Breitbart bull****?

Pathetic.

If the fantasy entertains you, sad...
Dec 11, 17 8:37 PM appended by Mr. Z
Trump is probably still peeved the USFL went down in flames. Ah well...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 11, 17 8:37 PM
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Ditch following is GOOD ! Its the watching that is bad.
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 12, 17 4:08 PM
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By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 11, 17 7:01 AM
Looks like Kathy Griffin isn't the only dem who President Trump has broken.
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 11, 17 7:59 AM
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Religion of peace alert.....

A permanent ban on radical Muslim immigration, extreme vetting and building the wall is the only way to keep America safe. To hell with political correctness, America first.

The left will claim this was done by ISIS in response to Roy Moore and his treatment of women. CNN is getting the report ready now.

Gods speed to President Trump as he does what the last two presidents were not capable of, to destroy Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 11, 17 9:45 AM
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By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 11, 17 8:29 AM
referencing a post by HH gets removed? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is up with that??!!
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 11, 17 9:57 AM
@ bigfresh, They call me, joe hampton, Erin 27 E, even flow, 27dan & Sturgis

Right-Wingers may have been decent Americans at one time but the erosion of their ethical formation by years of exposure to pathogenic ideological abuse has made that but a distant memory. Nowadays they live in a fantasy world where reality is what they believe rather than what their senses report, while basely attacking the reputation of any honest person who brings them the truth after their inept efforts to ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 11, 17 10:08 AM
Please explain the differance between Condone and Defend in your own words ?
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 11, 17 11:47 AM
What we know of Moore's reprehensible, abnormal behavior is more accurately termed "ephebophilia".
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 11, 17 12:15 PM
Currently a man can leagally have sex in these states right now with...

Green = 16
Blue = 17
Red = 18

The map in the 70s included
Dec 11, 17 1:37 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
1n 1973 The age of consent in Alabama. An individual who is 19 years old or older has sexual contact with someone who is younger than 14 but older than 12 has committed sexual abuse. If a person over the age of 14 has sex with a person under that age, they have committed second-degree rape, provided they are more than two years older than their partner.
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 11, 17 1:37 PM
In Europe

Light Blue = 13 ( Currently only Spain and Middle Eastern Countries)
Dark Blue = 14
Green = 15
Yellow = 16
Orange = 17
Red = 18
Dec 11, 17 1:47 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
In Canada the age an adult can have sex with a partner is 16 It was 14 up until 2007
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 11, 17 1:47 PM
The age of consent anywhere other than Alabama is irrelevant to this discussion. According to the state of Alabama's website your appended 1:37pm comment is incorrect. In 1979 and now, the age of consent there is 16, and anyone having sex with anyone younger is guilty of sex abuse in the 2nd degree punishable by up to 1 year in jail.
Also worth noting that Alabama has the highest rate of incest in the US. Does the perv have any sisters, I wonder? Or 6 toes?

By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 11, 17 5:08 PM
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By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 12, 17 6:48 AM
A Christmas Story:

Fred D’Up inherited a sizable amount of money, which he used to grow a business empire filled with plenty of successes and failures (including multiple business bankruptcies). Regardless of whether his businesses were doing well or not, Fred felt compelled to develop his image as a rich, powerful celebrity, and he was very good at it. In fact, he was so good at selling himself that polls showed that almost half of the country would vote for him as president notwithstanding ...more
By bird (635), Sag Harbor on Dec 11, 17 6:04 PM
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What a fantastic Hanukkah present!
Finally a POTUS that recognizes Jerusalem as Israel’s capital!
By Biba (344), East Hampton on Dec 11, 17 6:33 PM
@ even flow

Quote:

"Besides insisting ... that you, I mean Jay ... "
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Stunning.

Lying causes Americans who adhere to a normal moral code at least a twinge of conscience, but Right-Wingers prefer it to speaking the truth. Either that, or, as I have indicated supra, their ideology renders them incapable of distinguishing between reality and self-serving belief.

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@ ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 12, 17 6:52 AM
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 12, 17 7:48 AM
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@ even flow & Po Boy

Another iteration of the misdirection, falsehoods and outright lying that define Right-Wingers. Waiting for them to act honorably is like waiting for the Second Coming. (It fact, it could be the very miracle that presages it.)

["sigh"] At least their habitual prevarication informs novice forum members at the outset of the veracity of their opinions generally (but the lying does become tedious.)

With that defining Right-Wing behavior in mind, the ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 12, 17 9:32 AM
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Yes, I liked that intentionally hat...you made my day!
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 12, 17 10:09 AM
If you find a 40 year old accusation along with forged evidence credible, I find your stupidity, incredible.
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 12, 17 4:11 PM
And if the 40-year-old accusation IS TRUE in fact, does that make the denial even more incredible?

The sword cuts both ways . . .

His signature was not forged apparently, only the date was added in a different -- clearly different BTW -- handwriting.

The whole truth will come out some day, just like Watergate!



By PBR (4819), Southampton on Dec 12, 17 4:58 PM
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Or the Clinton foundation!
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 12, 17 5:12 PM
Heads Dems win Tails Dems win. It's good to be a Democrat.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 12, 17 6:12 PM
Great! I can't wait to meet a great American!
By tim2011 (14), southampton on Dec 12, 17 6:37 PM
Great! I can't wait to meet a great American!
By tim2011 (14), southampton on Dec 12, 17 6:37 PM
Great! I can't wait to meet a great American!
By tim2011 (14), southampton on Dec 12, 17 6:37 PM
***hole in chief


"...a president who shows such disrespect for the truth, for ethics, for the basic duties of the job and for decency toward others fails at the very essence of what has always made America great."

~ USAToday Editorial Board
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 12, 17 10:53 PM
Doug Jones not only succesfully prosecuted KKK members Thomas Edwin Blanton Jr., and Bobby Frank Cherry for the 1963 Birmingham church bombing, he now beats Roy Moore in the Alabama race for the Senate. Justice does not often prevail overnight.

Well done sir, well done.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 12, 17 11:11 PM
In the reddest of red states in America, Donald Trump's seal of approval means nothing. The blue wave is approaching, ready to hit in ten and a half months. The, "we even have a Jew as a lawyer," racist speech by his wife sure made things clear to Alabamians. People with decency, honesty, open minds, respect for others,humility, and compassion will take back this country after this botched experiment we have now. Yep Joe, it's a beautiful morning isn't it.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 13, 17 5:52 AM
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Oh please. The right ran a pedophile and lost by 1.5%. Luther Strange would have won in a rout
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on Dec 13, 17 6:12 AM
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"Screw You & Horse You Rode In On"

~ NY Daily News, Wednesday December 12, 2017
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 13, 17 6:15 AM
What does it say that 48% voted for a pedophile?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 13, 17 8:55 AM
Pedophile isn't the right word for Moore, sexual predator definitely fits.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 13, 17 8:58 AM
IMO they didn't believe it took place, or, didn't consider it relevant given it was 40 years ago.

Conversely, it's also been written here by anti-Mooreites that the good people of Alabama are essentially inbred idiots.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 13, 17 9:03 AM
MF, was he convicted of something while I wasn't looking? Oh right, guilty until proven innocent.
By dnice (1997), Hampton Bays on Dec 13, 17 12:19 PM
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.... unless your last name is clinton
By Erin 27 E (902), hampton bays on Dec 13, 17 12:41 PM
Gillespie, Strange, now Moore. Tata trumpism.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 13, 17 1:16 PM
Let me translate that for you JuneZ...cuz I don't see any trends whatsoever...

Gillespie lost the governor race in what is arguably a Democratic state - Virginia - attempting to replace a Democrat held seat.

Strange lot to Moore in the primary....both Republicans, but before the allegations.

Moore was a flawed candidate, like Hillary.

Any desire to go back to the drawing board??


By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 13, 17 2:02 PM
The right is better off. Moore was a fatally flawed candidate and jones didn’t even get 50% in AL. There are more chances to build a stronger coalition around Trump. Still 51-49. Moore would have slowed the current branding of the left as the party of high taxes and institutional serial sexual assault. Plus, cons don’t win elections, too extreme
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 13, 17 6:33 AM
Let the right winger justification begin!!
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 13, 17 7:08 AM
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I don’t live in Alabama
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 13, 17 7:10 AM
It's over for Trump in ten and a half months.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 13, 17 8:57 AM
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Trump is doing a fine job ! Its over for the no good RINO Ba$*@R*s in 10 months !
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 13, 17 12:16 PM
No excuses here Z .Sessions was a far better senator than he is an AG. Why we risked a senate seat in the first place was a bad decision.
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 13, 17 12:22 PM
And unless Bannon's been working for the Dems, he's--hallelujah!!!-- finished as of last night. Should go back to Hollywood and make a movie about a fake cowboy who rides his pony around the mall and gets busted by Sheriff Jones.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 13, 17 1:03 PM
HhO HO HOoooo

MERRY CHRISTMAS SNUGGLE BUG...... MEeeRRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 13, 17 2:39 PM
The tidal wave of reckoning rolls on, sweeping yet another sexual predator into political oblivion.

ONE predator, however, has to date remained incongruously immune to the consequences of his sexual aggression, despite the allegations of NINETEEN!!! (and counting) women

That will soon change. There is one clear message that the Roy Moore renunciation sends to the only self-confessed sexual batterer still in Washington. That message:

"We're coming for you, Donald."
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 13, 17 7:16 AM
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..."while basely attacking the reputation of any honest person who brings them the truth after their inept efforts to discredit it predictably implode."

~ highhatsize
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 13, 17 7:36 AM
2018 cant come fast enough The GOP establishment needs to be kicked out of office. Every single last Rino. They are so arrogant it's unbelievable. They are openly celebrating the fact that a conservative, Republican lost to a far left democrat with no solid proof of any wrong doing. Its getting ugly in the swamp!
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 13, 17 12:06 PM
Oh look whos woke up, high hatstradamus is back selling more snake oil ...
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 13, 17 12:25 PM
. . . meanwhile Muller keeps building his case with little fanfare or drama . . .

. . . and the Trumpeteers remain blind as ever to the rising tidal water of resignation or impeachment.

Remember that movie with Paul Newman (?) as a logger who was pinned underwater, as we watched the last bubbles of air escape his dying body?

At least he KNEW that the end was close.

Not so Trump or the T'teers.

Sad.

But very entertaining!

By PBR (4819), Southampton on Dec 13, 17 1:06 PM
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Remain blind? Well of course we're blind!!! We've been shown nothing to date that warrants resignation NOR impeachment.

Those bubbles you see are one day at a time less of the Mueller (not Muller) investigation as its slanted political life slips away.
By Mr. Snerdley (358), Southampton on Dec 13, 17 1:44 PM
Goodbye Omarosa, draining the swamp? How long does it take for Drumpf to drain his own hirings? Imagine $179,000 for her. What did America get back for that money?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 13, 17 4:33 PM
The guarantee that he (or any one like him) will never be elected again.
By johnj (695), Westhampton on Dec 13, 17 4:52 PM
Hmmm, maybe we should ask these folks? Clearly the same people who question Omarosa's role are the the same people who denounce Trump for being a racist in the face of results in the black community.

Since the election black unemployment rate has fallen a full percentage point, the labor force participation is up and the number of black Americans with a job has risen by 600,000. Job growth per month for blacks under Trump has been 40 percent higher than the monthly average under ‎Obama ...more
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 13, 17 5:40 PM
He kept her b/c she was a suck-up. Didn't matter that she was obnoxious or ineffective, only that she was "loyal" to the king. Did y'all know she wanted to be called "Her Excellency"? My understanding is that Kelly was behind her firing. Now another of his swamp-dwelling "hirings" is under fire-- Ross being investigated for insider trading.
Dec 13, 17 7:14 PM appended by June Bug
Soprano or alto? Any takers?
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 13, 17 7:14 PM
What is your source? And what do these stats have to do with Omarosa?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 13, 17 7:33 PM
Black unemployment reached a high of 16.8% in 2010. When Obama left office it was 8.8%. so what's your point po boy? We were still riding Obama's budget and his economic momentum, that you want to give credit to Drumpf, give me a break. right wingers are really good at half truths. Not a lick of honesty in any of ya.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 13, 17 7:44 PM
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Again I ask, what did Omarosa do to earn $179,000? Don't you get tired of supporting loser Orange cheetoh?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 13, 17 7:47 PM
As I understand it Mf, Omarosa was a liaison to the black community, bridging gaps if you will. Of course, that will be spun in another direction, but that is the crux of it....like it or not.

The only thing you're riding is the high from the drugs you're taking if you think Obama has ANYTHING to do with the current state of the economy. Consumer and business confidence alone goes a long LONG way and both the stock market and job creation is showing it.

So I've answered your ...more
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 13, 17 8:53 PM
Like this?
Twitter: $14.99/month
Snapchat: $9.99/month
Youtube: $19.99/month
Netflix: $9.99/per movie
Google: $1.99/per search
If not, better get on the horn and insist your reps voice their support of net neutrality to the FCC.

By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 13, 17 7:23 PM
People like June Bug LOVE the repeal. because it takes away the free market system, competition and gives the government and corporations control of what you can say! Utility-style "common carrier" regulations would "deter ongoing investments and innovation" and encourage censorship!

Under Title II, the FCC has broad regulatory powers, including the ability to control prices,content and determine which customers a company has to serve.You are missing the real story here... The Bilderberg/Tech ...more
Dec 14, 17 9:41 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Sorry People like June Bug Love Net Neutrality, not the repeal of it
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 14, 17 9:41 AM
Nonsensical. Orwellian.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 14, 17 12:45 PM
Trump family tried to vote absentee in the NYC mayoral election:

MELANIA: Didn't follow directions to sign envelope so her vote didn't count

IVANKA: Sent it on election day, too late

JARED: Never sent ballot

DONALD: Got his own b-day wrong by a month

Idiots all. Tillerson was only partly right.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 13, 17 8:26 PM
@ Po Boy

The current economic expansion is 102 months in length, beginning in June 2009 when President Obama's and the Democrats' rescue of the USA and the world entire from the Republican Mortgage Fraud Catastrophe began to gain traction. The Donald has been in office for 11 months. The remaining 91 months are all Obama.

Like everyone, I pray that The Donald and his Republican crew don't screw the pooch, as Republicans customarily do, and blow up the tremendous economy that ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 13, 17 8:46 PM
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And the guy who defended to the high heavens the ultimate gauge of the economy being the unemployment numbers chimes in. You don't get it both ways, and I'll gladly dig up your own words as a reminder.

The lowest unemployment rate in 17 years hat.... one year into the Trump administration.
Dec 13, 17 8:57 PM appended by Po Boy
The mis-attribution of the Mortgage Fraud Catastrophe aside...You as well as I know full well there are many at fault - the least of which are BOTH political parties.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 13, 17 8:57 PM
Like, DUH.

Social convention does not alter itself overnight, nor does a systemic economic recovery occur within the same time frame.

Coat tails, indeed.
Dec 13, 17 11:47 PM appended by Mr. Z
Thanks Hat...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 13, 17 11:47 PM
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You weren't getting it down to 4.1% without Obama bringing down from 10% to 4.7% and rescuing our economic system as we knew it. Say anything you want po boy in ten and a half months it's over for the tangerine toddler getting anything done. The great "Art of the deal," blew up both parties to accomplish nothing. Those that stand by him will go down to the scrap pile of history and remembered as those who supported the worst president in history.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 14, 17 5:54 AM
If Omarosa was so effective why was she fired? Gary Busey or Dennis Rodman would be excellent replacements!
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 14, 17 6:11 AM
Oh how the mighty have fallen.

In a mere 12 mos you went from guaranteeing a Hillary victory to trying to antagonize the winners about Omarosa. Can’t be easy.
By SlimeAlive (655), Southampton on Dec 14, 17 6:18 AM
Gary Busey for DNC Chairman !!!!!!
By pw herman (727), southampton on Dec 14, 17 8:39 AM
It's all falling apart isn't it. We're going to surround us with the best people. Believe me! Drain the swamp, the orange cheetoh can't get rid of his own hirees fast enough. This is what happens when you are a misogynistic, xenophobic, childish, gutless, classless coward. Those that support the tangerine toddler think those are admirable qualities. Li'll Donnie got a real problem with women in power, because he is a little man-child. Gary Busey is on Donnie Johnnie's team. The estate tax break ...more
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 14, 17 9:05 AM
Merrrrry Cristmas tax cuts for all.......
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 14, 17 9:16 AM
@ Po Boy

One can only shake one's head at your ingenuous Right-Wing cognitive dissonance. While crediting The Donald for a 102-month-long economic expansion despite his being in office for but 11 months, you absolve George W. of guilt for the Republican Mortgage Fraud Catastrophe despite ITS occurring at the end of his EIGHT-YEAR-LONG reign.

To reiterate, like all Americans, I pray that The Donald and his crew don't repeat history.*



* "Trump's turn? Republican ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 14, 17 9:19 AM
"So now...we should discount the unemployment rate, THE measure of workforce health for sixty years? Why should we do that?..."

~ highhatsize
Dec 14, 17 9:56 AM appended by Po Boy
Please don't misstate and mislead hat, if your points can stand on there own merit, there is no need to do that. No one credited the President for a 102 month long expansion - those are your misleading words and no one absolved George W. of his role, only attributed roles where they are warranted... to both political parties going back to policy under BJ Clinton.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 14, 17 9:56 AM
The elites own the politicians and the media. Lazy, uninformed voters keep falling for the same tricks and lies over and over. It's sickening ...Americans are rejecting an offer of managed American decline from the political class and there pissed
Dec 14, 17 10:18 AM appended by joe hampton
their
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 14, 17 10:18 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By johnj (695), Westhampton on Dec 14, 17 11:46 AM
HH The mortgage bubble was wholly a Democrat construct. Mortgagers were forced to loan money to those without the means to pay them back. Combine that with some products that were back loaded with balloon payments and some crazy interest only loans and the table was set for what followed. Lost in the liberal narrative is the FACT that the problems came when the bums who took out these mortgages defaulted! No one was forced into borrowing to buy a home, no one was forced to take out an interest ...more
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 14, 17 1:19 PM
bf you lie about as well as the POTUS.

Lost in your sorely lacking of information post is the word "derivatives". A simple real estate bubble would have been NOWHERE near as systemic without Republican black file cabinet, black contract, legalized "free market" gambling of CDOs and interest rate swaps. Greenspan, his "flaw" and his gaggle of idiot free marketeers are solidly a GOP machination.

Yet again, you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt you have no idea what you are talking ...more
Dec 14, 17 9:06 PM appended by Mr. Z
As far as economic recovery, you should write Paul Volcker a really nice "Thank You" note for his post crash work.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 14, 17 9:06 PM
Stick to the facts Z, your emotion gets the better of your argument thereby diminishing it.
Dec 14, 17 10:37 PM appended by Po Boy
Time Magazines 25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis The good intentions, bad managers and greed behind the meltdown. Blameworthy Angelo Mozilo Phil Gramm Alan Greenspan Chris Cox American Consumers Hank Paulson Joe Cassano Ian McCarthy Frank Raines Kathleen Corbet Dick Fuld Marion and Herb Sandler Bill Clinton George W. Bush Stan O'Neal Wen Jiabao David Lereah John Devaney Bernie Madoff Lew Ranieri Burton Jablin Fred Goodwin Sandy Weill David Oddsson Jimmy Cayne
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 14, 17 10:37 PM
The GOP owns the meltdown.

Perhaps they should have allowed oversight of the shadow banking system. Instead, they wrecked untold millions of lives and financial futures.

All they had to do was listen to Brooksley Born, instead of blackballing her.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 15, 17 6:44 AM
If the bums didn't default on their mortgages en masse the crash would not have happened, they broke a legally binding contract . No one was forced to take out a mortgage for more than they could ever pay back, many mortgagees gambled on the increasing real estate prices and borrowed more than the property was worth and were caught short. While some of the products offered were questionable, it was still the responsibility of the borrower to uphold their end of the deal.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 15, 17 7:14 AM
Bottom line is that Zeldin appears on TV as Trump surrogate. Bannon has Trump's ear. They are 1 in the same. Bannon's candidates lost in Virginia & Alabama. We Democrats can use this to our advantage provided we put a good candidate against Zeldin
By mcheck57 (3), Hampton Bays on Dec 14, 17 11:57 AM
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Anniversary of Newtown massacre. The day conversation about gun control died when America found it bearable to have school children murdered. The Republican response is please, everyone buy as many guns and much ammo as you like.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 14, 17 12:01 PM
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@ Po Boy

Quote:

"Please don't misstate and mislead hat, if your points can stand on there own merit, there is no need to do that. No one credited the President for a 102 month long expansion ... "
-------------------------------------------

Indeed you HAVE, Po Boy, by crediting him for an unemployment rate which is actually the product of eight years of Democratic initiatives and which has NEXT-TO-NOTHING to do with him. As Mr. Z pointed out, supra, the economy doesn't ...more
Dec 14, 17 12:24 PM appended by highhatsize
@ Po Boy (infra) Casuistry redux - - - REDUX!
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 14, 17 12:24 PM
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Indeed I HAVE NOT....Come now hat, not once did I make statement not giving credit to the previous administration. I simply stated (paraphrasing) that the current administration deserves credit for the country getting to the 17 year low. The unemployment rate alone had flattened tot about 4.7% for months prior to Trump taking office. ONLY since then, has it been reenergized to get to drop to 4.1%...dropping consistently since Trump took office.





Dec 14, 17 12:48 PM appended by Po Boy
ONCE AGAIN...Please don't misstate and mislead, if your point can stand on its own merit, there is no need to do that...unless that is, they can't.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 14, 17 12:48 PM
"The only thing you're riding is the high from the drugs you're taking if you think Obama has ANYTHING to do with the current state of the economy."

That sounds like you're not giving credit to the previous administration.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (675), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 14, 17 6:27 PM
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It sounds like that's how you interpreted it. After hovering on average around 4.9% for all of 2016 and in the 5's% for all of 2015 the unemployment rate is at 4.1%, the lowest in 17 years. I'm attributing that dip to the current administration, not NOT attributing it to the previous.

I suppose in true liberal fashion, everyone should get a medal?

Dec 14, 17 8:32 PM appended by Po Boy
I will say however, it's fortunate for Obama he had a low hurdle to overcome given the events of his predecessor. Obama is the only President since World War II to have zero years of GDP growth above the 3.3% average growth rate since World War II.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 14, 17 8:32 PM
And Obama inherited a HUGE financial disaster thanks to the shadow banking system (CDOs, RMBS, severe overleveraging). Were it not for the 125% increase in the money supply by May 2009 (a.k.a. quantitative easing), we would have been waiting in bread lines. But, there's a price to pay for all that fiat currency too. Note the insane increase in Long Island property values for example.

Do you review history before you post, or just go with irrelevant right wing schmuck radio host talking ...more
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 14, 17 9:38 PM
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No need for irrelevant outbursts Z....You questioning the stagnant nature of "After hovering on average around 4.9% for all of 2016 and in the 5's% for all of 2015" or there was a "low hurdle" to overcome in showing improvement?

Wondering, because it's all very factual. Also wondering what role Obama had in said quantitative easing. Answer: None.

By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 14, 17 10:29 PM
The GOP owns the "Great Recession".

Do try to deal with it.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 15, 17 6:40 AM
Which Republicans specifically? I see a Democratic and Republican president, dozens of Wall Street fat cats who contribute equally if not more to Democrats as Republicans, a Federal Reserve with mixed political representation and millions of the general public who mismanaged or misunderstood their loans who are non affiliated politically or Democrat, Republican and Independent. Heck, most officials did not see clear evidence of a broad crisis. They expected the economy to grow slowly in 2008 and ...more
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 15, 17 11:29 AM
so now increasing real estate value is a bad thing JuneZ?! Most of us own a home and see the rising value as a positive. WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT IS YOUR ISSUE WITH SUCCESS?
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 15, 17 5:22 PM
To HHS ~ 12/12/17

President Clinton, candidate Bush in 2000 and candidate Obama in 2008 all stated that Jerusalem is the capital and that the embassy should be moved.

Why did they all fail to deliver? I can tell you the excuse that the move would "increase tensions" or "jeopardize a chance at peace" is just that, an excuse. And a lame one at that.

Is safety one of the interests of the citizens of the United States? What then did Israel have to do with the terrorist acts ...more
By Biba (344), East Hampton on Dec 14, 17 2:03 PM
Thanks to

this thieving vote

one day

it may

take

this long

for this

content

to

load

or you

may

never

get to

see it

at all.

Horrible step backwards for a free and open internet.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 14, 17 2:35 PM
We're not that lucky.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 14, 17 2:45 PM
If June bug loves NN there must be a reason ! REGULATION ! She never met one she didn't like! Let the free market work!
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 14, 17 6:07 PM
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Liberals want to pretend that we didn't have internet prior to 2015. Just keep the Internet free of ALL! regulation and censorship. Then just let competition do the rest.
Dec 14, 17 6:17 PM appended by They call me
Boston Professor Proclaims ‘Jingle Bells’ a ‘Racist’ Song Haaaaa .......... Who T F CARES WHAT SHE THINKS!!! MERRRRRRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL ! JINGLE BELLS JINGLE BELLS JINGLE ALL THE WAY ................
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 14, 17 6:17 PM
Sure UD, deregulation worked just fine. 2008, Alan Greenspan, and his "flaw" is a fine example.

You guys really are wholly deficient.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Dec 14, 17 9:43 PM
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MORE WOMEN ACCUSE HOFFMAN ? Who cares ! If it was not important enough to report when it happened why should we care now ! Give it up already , How many lives are you going to destroy in hopes of drawing a comparison ?

You guys really are wholly deficient.
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 15, 17 1:07 AM

UD, TCM, PoBoy, Joe H. all suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. Sad.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 15, 17 10:54 AM
"Just let competition do the rest." There is zero competition for internet providers on the East End. This ruling is not going to increase competition out here. You don't even know what NN is. These ISPs have completely infiltrated the FCC, this is not a red vs. blue issue.
By Pacman (66), Southampton on Dec 15, 17 10:54 AM
Nail on head, Pacman. Haven't had time to wade through and tackle the nonsensical postings, so thank you.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 15, 17 11:25 AM
They voted for the Kenyan and that didn't work, Then they voted for Hillary and lost again. Then they got depressed.....
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 15, 17 3:30 PM
Amazing to see the leftist hysteria when any part of government regulation is dialed back no matter how wrong-headed it was in the first place. They not only love government, they love ANY and ALL government!
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 15, 17 1:17 AM
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Yeah, we kind of like our food free of rat dropings, our deli meat unspoiled, our paint free of lead, my child's medicine safe, the water i wade in free of medical waste, and safe air to breathe.
Dec 15, 17 10:56 AM appended by June Bug
Oops, make that rat droppings.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 15, 17 10:56 AM
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@ Po Boy

The incontestable fact is that The Donald simply hasn't been in office long enough to have had any effect whatsoever on the unemployment rate. Its continued decline is due entirely to the perdurance of the beneficial effect of economic policies instituted by President Obama and the Democratic Party.

Thank you, Mr. President.

Of course, Trump and the Republicans DO have time to ruin it - - - and - - - if the history of recessions in the United States repeats ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 15, 17 9:05 AM
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Thank you, hat for your opinion, as insignificant and meaningless as it is.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 15, 17 11:14 AM
TRUMP BOOM: NY FED PROJECTS 4% GROWTH

Obama: "This isn't who we are..."
Trump: "THIS is who we are..."

Trump has doubled the GDP Growth and increased the market by over 33% in less than a year? WOW!!!

Only 12 months ago, the Dems insisted that 2% was a gift and 3% was NOT possible! Were they just wrong and stupid or was that their definition of "Transforming America"? MAGA!!!
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 15, 17 5:38 PM
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@ Po Boy

Quote:

"Thank you, hat for your opinion, as insignificant and meaningless as it is."
-------------------------------------------------------

Did the low-lows in your new political club put you up to this, Po Boy - - - or is this vacuous non-response a step in your plan to establish your newly-adopted, dumbed-down persona?
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 15, 17 1:16 PM
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Some of us are not here to argue with you all day in between your doctors appointments hhs

Presidential hopeful wants Finland out of EUHELSINKI (Reuters) - Finland will leave the European Union and position itself as the Switzerland of the north to protect its independence if Laura Huhtasaari, the presidential candidate of the eurosceptic Finns Party has her way.She also told Reuters in an interview she wants to tighten immigration rules.

Huhtasaari -- dubbed “Finland’s ...more
By 27dan (2148), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 15, 17 2:17 PM
Agree wholeheartedly Dan, there's nothing wrong with putting you and yours first, in fact it's the only rational way to be. Obama put the USA a distant second when dealing with world wide geopolitical issues, leading from behind as it were. He consistently backed the wrong side to the detriment of world peace.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 15, 17 5:28 PM
The history of the internet:

The internet was invented
The internet works great
Obama made a rule.
The internet works great
Trump removed Obama’s rule
The internet works great

-the end-
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 15, 17 5:35 PM
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"Net Neutrality" is another
obama leftist Sham.
Anything the left supports is an anti American sham.
Even the name "Net Neutrality " is a leftist lie. There's nothing Neutral about it. "Neutral" is exactly what it isn't.
Basically, the lefties want to be the only Gatekeepers
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 15, 17 5:47 PM
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Your tax dollars funded the invention of the internet, and you favor turning it over to a handful of oligarchs to profit from what you paid for, who will reduce your access, and hold you up to get it back? The brilliance is astounding.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 15, 17 6:14 PM
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Do you have any other reaction to news besides hysterical hyperbole? You need to read “The boy who cried wolf”.
By even flow (523), East Hampton on Dec 16, 17 5:37 AM
Want to do some good about the internet, use Anti-Trust laws on the big three monopolies that control the net.

Google
Amazon
Facebook

Lack of competition is the killer here, and these three KIIl free speech and censor what THEY don't like.
By joe hampton (2932), The Hamptons on Dec 16, 17 10:39 AM
ABSOLUTELY agree I am sooo tired of reading how Conservatives were BANNED for free speech, you NEVER hear of any Liberals losing their accounts or being blocked, you damn sure don't see BLM or Antifa EVER banned much less censored. Sherman Anti-Trust laws MUST be used on the three, or they will kill free speech and meaningful competition on the net.

The internet should remain an ananomous place. A free of censorship were people can express their first amendment rights to freedom of speech ...more
Dec 16, 17 10:48 AM appended by They call me
The INTERNET should remain an unanimous place. A place free of censorship were people can express their first amendment rights to freedom of speech !
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 16, 17 10:48 AM
You don't like control but you favor giving it to the ISPs?
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 16, 17 10:56 AM
Yes, like Joe just commented corporate monopoly's can and should be cured with targeted anti trust laws, by competition and boycotting. Not government agency's and interference of content and economic social subsidization, once you give control to the government that control is abused, it grows and grows until you are both regulated to death and censored. Small government, capitalism and competition is the only way.
By They call me (2174), southampton on Dec 16, 17 4:35 PM
Liberals root for terrorist attacks,regulation,taxes and economic recession. They are sick people.
By Ditch Bum (331), Water Mill on Dec 15, 17 5:40 PM
Nobody greases the way better for terrorist attacks than Republicans with non gun control beliefs. Democrats pulled you out of economic recession and saved our crumbling economic structure in 2009. See what our deficit is going to be in early 2019, when the Trump tax cuts for the wealthy have kicked in. Let's give more to the corporations, who are stripping the fabric of family and traditional American ways of life, to open on every holiday especially Thanksgiving.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 15, 17 8:10 PM
Mf is the new chicken little.
By dnice (1997), Hampton Bays on Dec 16, 17 1:20 AM
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What did I say that wasn't true? Pull your head out of the sand. Guns for everyone= terrorist attacks. More money for corporations= more power and political leverage to push around the working man for their ever growing greed.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 16, 17 8:36 AM
MF, did the recent terrorist attack in NYC involve firearms?
By dnice (1997), Hampton Bays on Dec 16, 17 8:47 AM
Las Vegas or Sunderland have any meaning for you. Or the fifth anniversary of Newtown?
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 16, 17 10:00 AM
You'll be safe under your rock.
By pw herman (727), southampton on Dec 16, 17 10:03 AM
That is, if the rock doesn't kill him.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 16, 17 1:09 PM
Mf, as usual you ignore the question. Naive people like you think gun control will curb crazy. It never has, never will. People intent on terror will find a way to terrorize regardless of fruitless legislation imposed on law abiding citizens.
By dnice (1997), Hampton Bays on Dec 16, 17 1:09 PM
The media has your amygdala working overtime on negative reporting. The news media are the drug pushers and negative news is their drug. They know that we pay 10 times more attention to negative news. Read Steven Pinker, The Better Angels of our Nature. The data shows that we live in the post peaceful time in human history. You are 1/500th less likely to die a violent death today than you were 100 years ago.
Dec 16, 17 3:48 PM appended by dnice
I meant 500 times less likely
By dnice (1997), Hampton Bays on Dec 16, 17 3:48 PM
A tax cut does not "give more" to corporations or anyone else, it allows for keeping more of THEIR MONEY!! It belongs to those who work for it, the government TAKES their cut,
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 16, 17 8:40 AM
I haven't heard from one tea bag party person. What happened to our growing deficit? No comment? Worst place to live in this country for this tax cut, Long Island, New York! Remember Generalissimo Braggadocio promised a balanced budget and wiping out our entire deficit. Just padding his golden parachute. Corporate tax rate going from 35% to 21% is giving more to corporations. Without closing some of the loopholes, this is a massive giveaway of ever reducing our deficit.
By Mets fan (900), Southampton on Dec 16, 17 10:10 AM
how can it be a 'GIVEAWAY' ? The corporation earned the money, it belongs to them, same for each and every American, we work, well most of us do, and get paid for our work, we have earned the money. Then the government takes their cut. Out of control spending coupled with base line budgeting is the problem, not revenue.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 16, 17 10:25 AM
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No country in the history of humanity has EVER cut taxes in a relatively strong economy with full employment and massive government debt. EVER. There is NO economic theory that supports doing it. It is madness. THIS is when u raise taxes and cut spending to attack the debt problem. How dim are you people not to realize what a heist this tax bill is? Never enough for the richest designed to create never enough to help the poorest. And if that's what you are cheering for, do you also like ...more
Dec 16, 17 11:09 AM appended by June Bug
For a family w 2 kids, the average cost of daycare is $2k/month. In his hold-out stunt, Marco Rubio just secured $25/month for that family. This same bill allows wealthy kids to inherit $11 million tax free.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 16, 17 11:09 AM
Not so. "The Laffer curve is one of the main theoretical constructs of supply-side economics, the idea that lower tax rates when tax level is too high will actually boost government revenue because of higher economic growth. ... Its use connotes the ideas of economists Robert Mundell and Arthur Laffer" - Wikipedia. The subjective debatable issue is what constitutes "tax level is too high" and whether it's a "relatively strong economy." Some say yes given the unemployment rate, most say no given ...more
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 16, 17 1:06 PM
You're gonna cite some cut and paste some crapola about trickle-down that's been discredited and shown to be fraudulent in our recent history as a rebuttal to logical, historical common sense? The dimness, it hurts.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 16, 17 1:48 PM
June Bug, are you really going to criticize Po Boy for cut and paste with your history of posting others ideas and claiming it as your own?
By dnice (1997), Hampton Bays on Dec 16, 17 2:44 PM
So it's just yours truly who should be chastised for cutting and pasting? Ah, so. FYI, it is only copyrighted material that isn't allowed here. If the lot of you had higher education, you'd know that citations are de riguer and required as verification when writing papers. The issue in PoBoy's post was not that it was a C&P, but that the content references voodoo economics which claims that reducing taxes spurs economic growth. One only has to look at recent history to see that that's a ...more
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 16, 17 3:14 PM
No June Bug, there is no justification or rationalization for copying material and posting it as your own. That is fraudulent. I don't know if it is arrogance or deflection, but to imply that posters don't have the same education level as you is appalling. Lastly, if the issue with Po Boy's post wasn't cut and paste why did you start your reply with it?
By dnice (1997), Hampton Bays on Dec 16, 17 3:29 PM
When you start a sentence with the word "so" you have lost all credibility.
By pw herman (727), southampton on Dec 16, 17 3:35 PM
JuneZ, you stated, and I quote - "There is NO economic theory that supports doing it." I posted and CITED the source of an economic theory that supports "it". "It" being a "relatively strong economy." Like it or not, a strong economy is subjective as evident by lack luster GDP.
Dec 16, 17 9:28 PM appended by Po Boy
Allow me to rewrite your inaccurate statement to a more accurate level: "No country in the history of humanity has EVER cut taxes in a significantly and undeniably strong economy. There is NO economic theory that I agree with that supports doing it. It is madness in my opinion." Note: "massive government debt" removed since W did it, and Obama continued tax cuts.
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 16, 17 9:28 PM
Now it makes sense: Got ya' JuneZ. "So it's just yours truly who should be chastised for cutting and pasting?" If the shoe fits. If the shoe fits....

There Is No Economic Theory That Justifies the GOP Tax Plan
By Eric Levitz \. Daily Intelligencer.

Dec 16, 17 9:50 PM appended by Po Boy
What say you JuneZ? Seems you have stolen someones ideas without crediting them??
By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 16, 17 9:50 PM
GWB came into office with a huge budget surplus created during the Clinton administration. He opted for a tax cuts instead of new spending programs. Obama's cuts were limited to households with incomes of 250,000 or less.
And I repeat, there is no economic theory that supports what trump is doing. Unless you think the national treasury is your personal piggy bank.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 16, 17 10:44 PM
Whaddya' know, Boy, two people use the same words to state a fact. Not too many different ways to say the sky is blue. Levitz is not proposing an idea, he's reporting on a fact. One written about by others, so maybe he "stole" the phrase.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 16, 17 11:01 PM
Ignoring being BUSTED for the stealing of ideas, huh? Very typical of Democrats these days, accuse others of what you are guilty of... Ok...

Budget surplus is NOT the same thing as what you originally stated....DEBT. BTW, Obama maintained 82% of the Bush tax cuts and included much more above the $250,000 income level as you state.**


**Budget Deal Makes Permanent 82 Percent of President Bush’s Tax Cuts JANUARY 3, 2013 BY CHYE-CHING HUANG


By Po Boy (534), Water Mill on Dec 16, 17 11:16 PM
take care of your own kids please, it's your responsibility and your alone. Why are we all being taxed to pay for daycare?! Nice class envy shot JuneZ, you never miss an opportunity.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 16, 17 12:12 PM
Class envy? What you demonstrate is class hatred. Hatred for the poor. Not a nickel for those in poverty but millions in welfare for the rich. Disgraceful and unChristian.
Let's hear your prescription for the economy as it relates to working families and child care, households that depend on two incomes, and a need for expensive child care. What does Mr. Gimme All have to say?
Dec 16, 17 1:43 PM appended by June Bug
Attacking the rich is not envy. The hoarding of wealth is the cause of poverty. The rich aren't just indifferent to poverty; they create it and maintain it.
By June Bug (1479), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 16, 17 1:43 PM
No hatred of anyone here JuneZ, just a firm believer in personal responsibility, depending on tax dollars to pay for one’s childcare is anything but that. Welfare for the rich, do you mean letting people and businesses keep more of their hard earned income? Not welfare at all, why do you feel entitled to other people’s money?
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 16, 17 1:53 PM
@ June Bug:

You misjudge bigfresh, June Bug, he doesn't hate the sick and the poor. He just doesn't care about them. A psychopath is incapable of that concern. It would be unfortunate if they started dying in the streets. (SO unsightly - - - and it might affect property values if they died all in a bunch in one place.) But, on the whole, that would detract less from bigfresh's substance than if he were compelled to pay for their care, so it's a GOOD THING. (On the other hand, he would ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Dec 16, 17 2:22 PM
a psychopath pastes children's faces onto sexually explicit images and his alter ego defends the practice , take a good look in the mirror Jay.
By bigfresh (3029), north sea on Dec 16, 17 2:59 PM
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