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May 24, 2018 9:33 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin Discusses Combating MS-13 Gang At Roundtable With President Trump In Bethpage On Wednesday

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin, right, flew in the Air Force One on Wednesday ahead of his roundtable discussion with President Donald Trump, and other officials, about combating the MS-13 gang. FACEBOOK
May 28, 2018 1:32 PM

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin traveled from the nation’s capital back to Long Island with President Donald Trump aboard Air Force One last week to participate in a roundtable discussion about combating the MS-13 gang.

During the discussion, held at the Morrelly Homeland Security Center in Bethpage on May 23 and recorded on YouTube, Mr. Zeldin applauded the president for his persistence in fighting for a crackdown on the MS-13 gang.

“The message is being felt by law enforcement officers here on Long Island who MS-13 has threatened,” Mr. Zeldin said. “It sends a strong message to not only Long Islanders who care about our community and our public safety, but it also sends a strong message throughout our entire country.

“It’s really important when you run for office that you keep your promises and the effort that you have been showing to ensure the defeat of MS-13 is incredibly important and is recognized,” he continued.

The congressman added that the MS-13 crackdown should “transcend partisan politics”—which he said is not yet happening in the country.

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Well, yes, Mr. Zeldin, it should “transcend partisan politic", however, while MS-13 is living up to its motto of "kill, rape, control," Democrats are too busy defending the label given to them by President Trump, as "animals."

You see, they despise our President, more than they do MS-13.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 24, 18 9:50 AM
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I don't think Donald Trump is more or less of an animal than any given gang member.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 24, 18 10:02 AM
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Tell us who the leader of your real country is ?
By pw herman (971), southampton on May 24, 18 10:21 AM
Donald Trump?

I've said it before...I'm as American as apple pie, which coincidentally was also born outside this country!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 24, 18 10:26 AM
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It's not the president Fore1gnBorn hates. It's you, it's me. It's this country from it's founding except for the brief interlude of the Obama administration, when watching the president bow and grovel, apologize and graciously acknowledge that it was time for an oversized America to be cut down to size, to get the black eye it deserves which warmed Fore1gnBorn's heart. The current population is too reluctant to fully embrace the Socialist Way, ala Venezuela. By importing masses of uneducated, unskilled, ...more
By MoronEliminator (123), Montauk on May 24, 18 12:29 PM
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Note that the above comment is Moronic and does not reflect my beliefs.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 24, 18 12:43 PM
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Bingo ME!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 24, 18 1:46 PM
What Po and Moron believe doesn't affect my feelings: I don't hate either of them, much less America.

This is an example of the polarizing hatred exhibited by some people.

Moron has previously called me "pure evil" and I personally prefer that expression of his own opinion to the above comment which falsely claims to portray mine.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 24, 18 2:03 PM
Rotted apple pie.
May 25, 18 7:28 AM appended by pw herman
( as un American as ! )
By pw herman (971), southampton on May 25, 18 7:28 AM
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There's another one.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 25, 18 8:01 AM
Deplorable.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 25, 18 8:17 AM
Agreed, the prerogative to personally attack those one disagrees with is deplorable.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 25, 18 10:02 AM
Shame on Hillary.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 25, 18 10:40 AM
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And all the rest, especially those who don't see the problem with their words...at least Hillary apologized!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 25, 18 10:47 AM
Apologized? To who? Her base(for losing an unlosable race) or maybe the families of the dead Americans in Benghazi? Really hard to pick what she could be apologizing for.
By dnice (2336), Hampton Bays on May 25, 18 9:22 PM
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To the people she called deplorable, for one.

She was also thoroughly cleared of wrongdoing in the attack on Benghazi but still took responsibility.

I thank the Republicans for the high investigative standards they set; despite not finding any wrongdoing initially, they didn't stop digging and ensured the four-year investigation thoroughly absolved anyone of blame.

A shining example to be sure.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 26, 18 7:01 AM
Rancid scrambled eggs for brains.
Jun 17, 18 7:38 PM appended by June Bug
In response to "Moron Eliminator". Sure wish the comments showed up where you think they will.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 17, 18 7:38 PM
Don't MS-13 mostly kill their own? i.e. other gang members. What's the problem here? Seems like a self-maintaining solution. Sounds like just another fake news story to install fear and promote xenophobia and distract from the real crimes being committed in the White House
By johnj (815), Westhampton on May 24, 18 9:57 AM
MS-13 talk is nothing more than an attempt by Tump and Zeldin to stoke ant-immigrant hatred. Rep Zeldin is Trump's puppet in Washington. Pathetic
By witch hazel (224), tatooine on May 24, 18 11:06 AM
I don't think the young girls murdered in Brentwood felt like "their own"
By baymen82 (2), hampton bays on May 24, 18 11:09 AM
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I very sight of Zelden and Trump makes me puke. One a local menace and incompetent. The other a national menace and a global threat.
By Jolly Roger (13), Southampton on May 24, 18 11:28 AM
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Disgusting theatrical meat-throw painting a murderous gang as equivalent to all immigrants thereby stoking zenophobia is hateful and unAmerican.
Dealing with this gang is the purview of law enforcement, not pandering pols staging PR events.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 24, 18 11:35 AM
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Amen!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 24, 18 11:39 AM
"painting a murderous gang as equivalent to all immigrants"

These are the disproven lies the Left continues to perpetuate. Yeah, let's talk "painting."
May 24, 18 12:19 PM appended by Po Boy
"...Within minutes, several reporters and news outlets, including The New York Times, posted the remarks on Twitter, noting that they had been made about unauthorized immigrants, but without saying that the president had specifically referred to MS-13..." Trump Defends ‘Animals’ Remark, Saying It Referred to MS-13 Gang Members. By Julie Hirschfeld Davis and Niraj Chokshi May 17, 2018
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 24, 18 12:19 PM
"They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

It's ok if you don't share others' objections to POTUS painting with a wide brush, but the fact is that he's been doing it since he announced his candidacy.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 24, 18 12:30 PM
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Actually, what's truly disgusting is that June Bug believes this country does not have the right to control it's borders or enforce it's democratically enacted immigration laws. Jun Bug stokes hatred against our laws and the people who put those laws into place via the democratic process. She hates our immigration enforcement officers, and equates them to the murderous Nazi SS. She gladly does the bidding of the wealthy who enjoy cheap personal services, and the corrupt businesses who hire illegals, ...more
By MoronEliminator (123), Montauk on May 24, 18 12:47 PM
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There, there, Moron, are you some kind of psychic, or just having a bad day?
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 24, 18 12:59 PM
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Fact is Fore, you can't get the context or facts straight, deferring instead to the day-one candidacy talking points of the Left.

"80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S."
May 24, 18 1:30 PM appended by Po Boy
Huffington Post. 09/12/2014 09:27 am. By Eleanor Goldberg
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 24, 18 1:30 PM
Lol, did Donald Trump retreat from those day-one comments or double down on them?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 24, 18 1:34 PM
It's why President Trump won the election...

Some just don't, and will NEVER get it.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 24, 18 1:34 PM
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Exactly, he doubled-down.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 24, 18 1:49 PM
Sure he doubled down, for the same reason organizations like the AP have to delete their inaccurate tweets, "It wasn't made clear he was speaking' about MS-13."

With 80% of Central women raped crossing illegally into the US, "And some, I assume, are good people," what exactly is your issue with the President doubling down?

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 25, 18 8:17 AM
I have a problem with his choice of emphasis implying that it is the good people who are a minority rather than the rapists.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 25, 18 9:52 AM
Well, 100% of them are breaking the law, you know.

But let's face it, you really don't know who of the illegals are the rapists, MS-13, the "good people" or pick any other criminal violation, do you? We just know, they ALL broke the law.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 25, 18 10:40 AM
"They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists."

I don't think "crime" in that context was solely referring to the act of crossing the border without inspection; He wasn't distinguishing between those who entered without inspection (a crime) and those who overstayed their legal status (not a crime).

I think he was painting undocumented immigrants with a wide brush as criminals, drug traffickers, and rapists.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 25, 18 10:47 AM
I didn't say the president said "crime" in that context was solely referring to the act of crossing the border without inspection. That was directed at your interpretation of the emphasis you said was placed on the statement.

The reality is, 100% of illegals are breaking the law -at least once - likely more as they acquire fraudulent documentation to work, 80% of women crossing the border illegally are raped and 95% of confirmed aliens in our federal prisons are here illegally according ...more
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 25, 18 11:46 AM
The emphasis exists. It's what people have had a problem with since he announced his candidacy.

That you don't see or acknowledge it doesn't change anything. Facts don't care about your feelings.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 25, 18 12:00 PM
Wow, thank you trump. Let’s take 10 steps backwards.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 24, 18 12:39 PM
Hey moron eliminator, when my Irish grand parents came here they were poor and uneducated. It seems my father assimilated into society just fine . Your post is the most outlandish nonsense I’ve ever read . Tell me your ancestors were nuclear physicists or brain surgeons . Get a grip.reminds me of a saying, be nice to people on the way up, because your gonna need them on the way down.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 24, 18 12:45 PM
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Hi Fred! My parents immigrated here legally, it took nearly a decade. Nearly every country in the world shapes it's immigration policy to meet the needs of that particular country. Canada, for instance, takes education level, work experience, health, and the likelihood that the immigrant will "become a public charge" on the social welfare system. Is that offensive to you? When your grand parents came here there was still a great need for unskilled manual labor, there no longer is. I'm curious though, ...more
By NateNewtown (52), east on May 24, 18 12:53 PM
The equities weigh differently in the case of an adult who is caught entering illegally and a child who was brought ten years ago but is now told to leave.

I realize your comment wasn't addressed to me, but Fred's wasn't addressed to you so...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 24, 18 12:59 PM
Hey Nate, nice civil post.i think we need a dialogue to discuss this.i think there is a need unskilled workers, farmers for instance. Just about ever crew out here has unskilled workers on it. It doesn’t take long to get a handle on a skill. I’m not just disregarding immigration laws, but there’s a whole lotta people here who work and are illegal.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 24, 18 1:19 PM
Hey Fred s, your post is kind of like arguing that every great civilization was built on slavery.
By dnice (2336), Hampton Bays on May 25, 18 9:29 PM
Benjamin Disraeli had it right when he said. "They hate our order, our civilization, our enterprising industry..."
By Aeshtron (41), Southampton on May 24, 18 2:09 PM
The sun did set on the British empire.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 24, 18 2:34 PM
An MS-13 member who goes by the gang name “Animal” received a 40-year prison sentence this week for a conspiracy that included the murder of a 15-year-old boy, the U.S. attorney’s office in Massachusetts said Tuesday.
The nickname, which the prosecutors highlighted in the headline of a press release, is particularly telling, coming just a week after President Trump called members of the violent, immigrant-fueled MS-13 gang “animals.”
Joel Martinez, 23, admitted ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on May 24, 18 8:35 PM
I think the problem is that I keep going on this site. I mean It's one thing to be liberal in New York, but it's a whole other thing to be liberal on the East End. Most of the people that live out that way are wealthy. It's just a fact. Look at the median home prices out here. A 2400 square foot house on a 1/4 of an acre can possibly cost you well over a million dollars depending on the area. The point I'm getting at is you people live in a bubble...period. I challenge any one of you liberal posters ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on May 24, 18 8:47 PM
East New York just ended its longest stretch without a murder since the NYPD started keeping records in 1993.

New York Times, “Once the ‘Killing Fields,’ East New York Has No Murders in 2018.”, April 22, 2018.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 25, 18 8:03 AM
Nice story disease. So the guy goes by the name animal. Thanks for that. Sounds like you got some kinda thing for ms-13, not a healthy thing.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 24, 18 8:47 PM
Hey diseased, dont kid yourself.my experience is you tough talking guys aren’t.not my fault you gotta go to crappy areas, get a different job maybe.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 24, 18 8:57 PM
FB, Wow - a neighborhood without a murder in a year makes it to the New York Times - like that is something to be proud of. I worked as the director of economic development for a local utility in East New York in the 1990's and still have ties in the "not so nice" parts of the "outer" boroughs of NYC. FB, what is your first hand experience? It is not all cool and hip no matter what you read. Some of us know how bad it can get and maybe want to make sure it doesn't get that bad here.
By G.A.Lombardi (184), Hampton Bays on May 25, 18 8:24 AM
I never lived in East New York but was often in the area in the late morning and in the early evening. The last time I was there was 2014 and I saw steady improvement every time I visited.

City neighborhoods have city problems, but East New York is closer to the being the next Williamsburg than the hellscape people envision when they haven't been there in two decades.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 25, 18 10:00 AM
Lee should stay where he belongs — in Bethpage and the like. His desire to help the East End is laughable.
By Brandon Quinn (142), Hampton Bays on May 25, 18 11:20 AM
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FB, bad times follow good. Have you walked through Manhattan lately? When was the last time you were in an "outer borough". Big decline in the last 4 years.
By G.A.Lombardi (184), Hampton Bays on May 25, 18 11:40 AM
If you say so G.A., but my experience is that property values, particularly in Queens and Brooklyn, are steadily rising.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 25, 18 11:55 AM
Property values don't equal quality of life -and with the rising property values where are all the working class supposed to live. There is illegally overcrowded housing all over and an increase in homelessness. The only way property values increase quality of life is when you sell and leave.
By G.A.Lombardi (184), Hampton Bays on May 25, 18 1:14 PM
You know when the subways became safe? When fares went up.

I understand the downsides of gentrification, I'm just suggesting that reduced crime and rising property values are some of the benefits (for owners at least, not so much tenants).
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 25, 18 1:20 PM
6 months ago two South Boston guys who encountered a Hispanic-looking homeless man urinated on him, kicked him, went and found a metal pipe and beat him senseless with it. Then, according to witnesses, walked off laughing and later told police they did it because "trump was right about needing to get rid of the illegals". Asked to comment, trump said that his supporters are "passionate". Please tell me how this horrific behavior is any less "animalistic" than that which Commander Shortfingers ...more
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 25, 18 12:16 PM
Facts June. First, the incident took place in 2015. Second, the statement you cite, was made to police, third, the statement from then candidate Trump was this: "I haven’t heard about that,” Trump said. “It would be a shame, but I haven’t heard about that.”

Lastly, you can't defend stupid and ignorant at any level, but comparison often helps, let's compare to Obama making divisive statements that incited those who then murdered police and/or a war on police!?!





By Mr. Snerdley (384), Southampton on May 25, 18 12:43 PM
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What was the divisive statement, that people of different races in the same situation routinely receive different treatment from police and have different outcomes in the criminal justice system?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 25, 18 1:12 PM
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Uh, we're both mistaken, Snerd. It happened in 2016. Almost doesn't matter. Point is trump incites violence on a daily basis.
And when he stopped with his plausible deniability over the Boston incident he said, "I will say the people that are following ME are very passionate." Now it's whoever he doesn't like--even fellow citizens-- shouldn't be in "the country".
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 25, 18 2:21 PM
You're the only one mistaken June - the incident took place in August 2015.

Facts June are important, the early article and sentencing which took place in 2016 clearly show a history of troubling attitudes toward others - as pointed out by the prosecutor, ""The history of Scott Leader’s attitudes towards others is troubling,” Rimar (the Suffolk prosecutor) said". This was something these two had done for a very long time apparently.
By Mr. Snerdley (384), Southampton on May 29, 18 10:03 AM
Hey June bug, that’s unfair. Trump has very big hands, especially when he’s holding something very small.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 25, 18 12:29 PM
Unsurprisingly, the comment threads here seem to be full of pigmentally challenged, monolingual individuals who don't spend much time in the greatest city in the universe. Brentwood has several delicious restuarants and interesting shops. Most of Brookyn, Queens and the Bronx are incredibly vibrant. The East End is beautiful and a special place but please thoroughly explore the island and world you live in.

Millions of hard-working Latinos are here to stay and are a wonderful addition ...more
By Aeshtron (41), Southampton on May 25, 18 2:13 PM
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Lmao at "vibrant"....especially when you say "most". Didn't anyone ever tell you to be careful with the word most? Anyway, this isn't about Latino's being a wonderful addition to this country or not. It's about the bad ones that you protect. The gangbangers, thugs, drug dealers and rapists. It's real simple. But nice try there...
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on May 25, 18 5:10 PM
I've heard warning against using "all" but what's wrong with using "most"?

Perhaps you should check how often the word appears in your own posts before answering.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 25, 18 5:17 PM
I agree Aeshtron, it’s fun to try different ethnic foods. Trying different stuff makes the world go round.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 25, 18 3:15 PM
Hey diseased, where on any of these threads does anyone defend ms-13 or any other criminals? You have a big , big imagination.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 25, 18 6:00 PM
OMG - Hillary Clinton Says She Wants to Be CEO of Facebook . LMFAO

The new Facebook under Clinton will give you several options for deleting posts

A) Wipe with a cloth
B) Attack it with a hammer
C) Acid Wash
D) Send it directly to Anthony Weiner's laptop
By Ditch Bum (478), Water Mill on May 25, 18 6:10 PM
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who cares she is a two time liar and loser, anyone that cant admit it looks now very very foolish. i hope she does run again in 2020 could you ever have imagined the joke the dnc and its disciples would become.
By Erin 27 E (1031), hampton bays on May 25, 18 6:20 PM
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I guess most of you commie-loving right wing nut traitors are disappointed that drumpf couldn't add Kim to his stable of commie lovebirds. I said in earlier posts when you can you trust a commie? Dreams of having a Trump named hotel in Pyongyang are now dashed. Let's talk about the great "Art of the Deal," His first biggest lie, Mexico is paying for the wall. Remember you elected him for that promise. Mexico is never paying one peso in any shape or form for that wall. With a majority in Congress, ...more
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 25, 18 6:16 PM
not at all, he is playing him like a fiddle. president trump knows exactly what he is doing and as usual you will find out he comes out the winner!
By Erin 27 E (1031), hampton bays on May 25, 18 6:22 PM
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FYI , the last school shooter used a Joe Bidden approved shot gun ! Give it up already will ya, if you cared about these children CNN would have ran the Texas shooting day and night for weeks Ad nauseam.....

Where was that little creep Hogg this time around?

You don't care about the children or you would harden the schools! No you just want the guns so next time you get a NWO puppet like Obama into office you can jam your alt left ideology down the American peoples throats and ...more
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on May 25, 18 6:29 PM
Commie loving right wing? What? That is a bizzaro world post.
By dnice (2336), Hampton Bays on May 25, 18 9:12 PM
"Better dead than red."
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 25, 18 9:29 PM
Fo sho Z
By dnice (2336), Hampton Bays on May 25, 18 9:40 PM
So let's talk about the great "Art of the Deal," on what he did pass. He gave you a temporary tax cut with your own money that we (according to the right, i.e.tea-baggers) couldn't afford. Then he gave himself and his 1% cronies cuts in the millions for ever. At what point do you wake and say, he just played all of us who voted for him, for his own welfare. Amazing he got that deal done, isn't it? Who knew getting a Nobel prize could be so complicated. Zeldin is an NRA bought and paid for Trump ...more
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 25, 18 6:25 PM
Donald Trump to Naval Academy Graduates: ‘America Is Back’

President Donald J. Trump spoke at the Naval Academy commencement ceremony on Friday, praising a restored pride in the United States of America and its military.
“We are witnessing the great reawakening of the American spirit and of American might,” he said at the ceremony in Annapolis. “We have rediscovered our identity, regained our stride and we’re proud again.”

Trump praised ...more
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on May 25, 18 6:35 PM
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Looniest, most Orwellian speech ever delivered.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 25, 18 8:48 PM
"Contrast this to the personal and professional honor of the sitting president of the United States, who time and again makes small choices guided by self-interest, ego, impulse and immediate self-gratification. He could never do what we ask our U.S. Naval Academy graduates to do. He is a physical coward, a liar and no leader at all."

~ Dr. Daniel Barkhuff (daniel.barkhuff@vfrl.org) is president of Veterans For Responsible Leadership, a 2001 U.S. Naval Academy graduate and a former Navy ...more
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 26, 18 7:35 AM
Your exit visa awaits you.
By pw herman (971), southampton on May 26, 18 8:03 AM
Nobody is proud of the ignoramus, traitorous, moron in the White House. Lying buffoon has made us the laughingstock of the rest of the world.
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 25, 18 8:22 PM
Donald J. Trump

Verified account

@realDonaldTrump
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Democrats are so obviously rooting against us in our negotiations with North Korea. Just like they are coming to the defense of MS 13 thugs, saying that they are individuals & must be nurtured, or asking to end your big Tax Cuts & raise your taxes instead. Dems have lost touch!

Sooo true
By joe hampton (3109), The Hamptons on May 25, 18 9:51 PM
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Lost touch?

The increase in gas prices alone costs that the "tax cut" was worth to most of the middle class. What a dumbass.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 26, 18 5:11 AM
did you receive an increase in your take home pay after the tax cut?
By bigfresh (3501), north sea on May 26, 18 7:03 AM
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You're actually going to trot out the pittance of a pay increase which makes no real difference?

With the increased costs Trump's conduct has caused, it means nothing. More like a cruel joke perpetrated on the nation.

How do you like the price of gas now?
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 27, 18 5:35 PM
You are welcome to donate the increase in take home pay to any charity you wish JuneZ. I thought high gas prices are the dream of you uber leftists, you know to force vehicles off the roads.
By bigfresh (3501), north sea on May 27, 18 6:37 PM
What bizzaro world do you live in where people advocate for open borders and cheer on rising gas prices?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 28, 18 9:23 AM
Derp doesn't begin to cover it.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 28, 18 8:28 PM
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TDS

6 1/2 more years of this and loving every minute!

Keep America Great !
By Ditch Bum (478), Water Mill on May 25, 18 10:00 PM
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What are you loving? He isn't building the we wall with Mexico's money. He couldn't get any health insurance plan passed with a majority in Congress. There isn't any infrastructure plan to rebuild America. He gets played by Putin in Syria. Narcissistic Drumpf thought he could work a deal with the commies. Gas prices getting higher . Everything he touches turns to crap, ask his wife Melania, or maybe Nikki Haley. He did manage a bill that benefited him millions personally. He's a grifter carnival ...more
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 26, 18 8:39 AM
100 percent vote by UN Security Council to sanction North Korea.

41 percent decline in illegal southern border crossings

97,482 illegal immigrant arrests, 70 percent convicted of additional crimes, 52,169 expelled

Adopted a resolute policy on Afghanistan

Advocated for practical tertiary education

Advocated for skills-based immigration policies

American companies now expanding rather than shipping jobs overseas

Announced sanctions targeting ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on May 26, 18 9:19 AM
It seems like the media is refusing to put students from the Santa Fe, Texas shooting on TV unlike after the Parkland shooting

Maybe it is because the students from rural Texas know more gun control is not the answer and gun free zones kill students

By even flow (657), East Hampton on May 26, 18 9:28 AM
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Thank you Donald Drumpf for doing everything you can to damage our environment for short term fools gold. Like I said, everything he touches turns to crap. Has he caught up with Obama, the deporter-in-chief? Is it such a bad thing if we got along with the Russians? The orange cheetoh selling out America for a hotel in Moscow. Advocated for skills based immigration? That would have left your family out of America, be thankful the tangerine toddler wasn't President when your folks immigrated to America.
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 26, 18 9:32 AM
Your exit visa awaits you.
By pw herman (971), southampton on May 26, 18 9:47 AM
I'm not the commie lover like you are
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 26, 18 8:17 PM
I eat commies for breakfast. you're next fool.
May 27, 18 8:11 AM appended by pw herman
You anthem kneeler, you.
By pw herman (971), southampton on May 27, 18 8:11 AM
You support a commie lover
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 27, 18 9:53 AM
Don't start crying, I know it's all very sad for you pee-wee.
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 27, 18 9:58 AM
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By pw herman (971), southampton on May 27, 18 9:58 AM
Supporting commies, white supremacists, and Nazi's is what you warped Trumpettes have evolved to. But a peaceful protest against racial injustice and inequality you consider un-american.
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 27, 18 1:57 PM
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Would it be such a bad thing if we got along with the Russians? L'll Donnie Johnny Drumpf
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By pw herman (971), southampton on May 28, 18 9:29 AM
Hey even flow, so them Texans know gun control don’t work. Only 10 murdered , with armed security. So it’s working like a charm.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 26, 18 9:51 AM
No armed security
May 26, 18 9:56 AM appended by even flow
“Santa Fe HS Families Call for Armed Guards, Teachers“
By even flow (657), East Hampton on May 26, 18 9:56 AM
Even flow, check your facts. 2 armed security, shooter drills. Was a so called “hardened “ school.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 26, 18 10:10 AM
It's not the guns. It's society.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 31, 18 9:17 PM
Even flow, I apologize. It was 3 armed security.that was according to the local Texas paper.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 26, 18 10:13 AM
How much of a nazi you have to be to pull a frightened, crying child away from a mother LEGALLY seeking asylum offering no reassurance or explanation of when the child will see that mother again? And then wake up, go to work, and do it again? (Just following orders are you?). We are the shithole nation.
Now confirmed some of these children are ending up in the hands of traffickers. I repeat: WE ARE THE SHITHOLE NATION. And, by the way, following orders can be a crime).
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By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 26, 18 10:15 AM
Ah, yes, sometimes I forget how young you are, Li'l Ms. Junebug.

Before you lapse into such rhetoric in the future, you should probably research Godwin's Law which holds that the longer any online discussion progresses (regardless of topic or scope), there is the probability of a comparison involving Hitler or the Nazi party.

By tradition in most newsgroups or other Internet discussion forums, when a Hitler comparison is made, the discussion is finished and whoever made the comparison ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1790), Northampton on May 26, 18 5:07 PM

"By tradition in most newsgroups or other Internet discussion forums, when a Hitler comparison is made, the discussion is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress." Says who? I call Bull. I also call Bull on Godwin's Law designed to make sure no one ever dare countenance that there has ever been--or will ever be--evil greater than Hitler's, and therefore citing the evil being conducted by ICE is a careless comparison. Sorry, evil is evil, and Hitler's ...more
May 26, 18 5:49 PM appended by June Bug
Things Hitler did: 1. Had parades for himself 2. Made people cheer for him 3. Took kids from their mothers 4. Rounded up humans 5. Spread propaganda 6. Only wanted to hear news that put him in a good light. Yeah. trump is nothing like that.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 26, 18 5:49 PM
Jeez. Sounds like someone didn't take their medication today. If you hate this country so much, then why don't you GTFO!! Go live in Haiti, or Jamaica or Libya or Afghanistan. See how fast you'll be saying you love Trump and you need to come back...
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on May 27, 18 1:44 AM
Did you see what he said about you? Are you going to take that!? Better let him have it
By even flow (657), East Hampton on May 27, 18 7:57 AM
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By bigfresh (3501), north sea on May 27, 18 9:09 AM
"Open borders" is a conservative trope. Nobody is suggesting that.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 27, 18 10:29 AM

Get out of the country I love? What and leave it to those who live devoid of American and/or Christian values?
Apart from Christians being commanded to "do unto others" and to welcome the stranger, our (bipartisan) history of taking in refugees is part of what made/makes us not only great, but safer than we would be otherwise by removing the excuses Jihadists use to sow hatred and violence against us.
Not horrified by what is presently happening to children ...more
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 27, 18 11:46 AM
""Open borders" is a conservative trope. Nobody is suggesting that."

Define, "nobody."
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 31, 18 8:08 PM
Nobody elected to federal office.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 1, 18 6:28 AM
Of course there are those elected for federal office who are proponents of open borders, Republican and Democrat alike, Paul Ryan for one, even Donald Trump and Hillary in 2013. One could argue, with 11-20+ million illegal in the country, we've had open borders for years. It's like most hot button issues however. You won't see it on a platform or openly endorsed, but yet, it's supported in covert ways while in office, even though liberal (lower case L) endorsements for pathways to citizenship.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 1, 18 9:38 AM
Oh, so nobody is proposing open borders? Got it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 1, 18 10:01 AM
Diseased,you should listen to yourself occasionally, speaking of forgetting taking medication. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 27, 18 6:29 AM
Once that person responds, I would hope you won’t let them skate. You’ll need to come up with some personal attacks in order to show them who is boss!
May 27, 18 7:59 AM appended by even flow
There were 0 armed guards there.
By even flow (657), East Hampton on May 27, 18 7:59 AM
No personal attacks, I like to call bs. Like your post with no armed security. I admit when I’m wrong, do you?
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 27, 18 8:17 AM
I’ve never heard anyone defend ms-13, or call for open borders. I’m not sure where these talking points are coming from.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 27, 18 11:07 AM
You have declared that the USA is a s hit hole nation, you are wrong and delusional if you truly believe that. Are you comparing our nation to Haiti?
By bigfresh (3501), north sea on May 27, 18 1:35 PM
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By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on May 28, 18 1:03 AM
With 2500 officiers and over 300 high priced supervisors, ranging from sergeants to chiefs, a budget of over a half billion dollars, why is help need from the outside?
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 28, 18 9:06 AM
Behold the grossest, most inappropriate, most self-flattering Memorial Day message in the history of the US presidency:

@realDonaldTrump
Happy Memorial Day! Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers for Blacks and Hispanics EVER (& women in 18years), rebuilding our Military and so much more. Nice!

HE IS VILE.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 28, 18 10:13 AM
POTUS sure knows how to put the "Me" in Memorial Day.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 28, 18 9:41 PM
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I’m sure he wrote that while looking in the mirror.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 28, 18 10:14 AM
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HOW THE FBI INVESTIGATION INTO RUSSIA AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN ACTUALLY STARTED by John R. Schindler
> " I worked for NSA both as a civilian analyst and as a military officer, and I was technical director of NSA’s biggest operational division. I also worked extensively in counterintelligence, including collaboration with the FBI in cases just like what unfolded, in secret, in 2016 around candidate Trump. Therefore, I speak of the intersection of SIGINT and counterintelligence from ...more
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 28, 18 10:56 AM
The bumper sticker version of above for the attention-span challenged:

The start of the FBI's 2016 CI investigation of Team Trump had nothing to do with dossiers, informants, or "spies." Those are lies.
It began with TS+ SIGINT proving Trump's secret ties to Putin & his Kremlin
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 28, 18 12:22 PM
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By bigfresh (3501), north sea on May 28, 18 12:55 PM
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By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on May 28, 18 1:00 PM
Thank you June for a relevant post from a real news site.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 28, 18 3:05 PM
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John "Carlos Danger" Schindler is a known purveyor of fake news, kinda like june.
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on May 28, 18 3:57 PM
A member of the "intelligence" community who snaps pictures of his penis and sends them to another individual, is not very intelligent. One would have to seriously question the intelligence of such an "expert" as well as the individual who would quote this "expert".
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on May 28, 18 4:04 PM
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Being skeevy and knowing what you're talking about aren't mutually exclusive. Unlike the pervert you idolize, a know-nothing labelled a moron by two high government officials he himself hired, and almost as many accusers as Harvey Weinstein including a 13 year-old and his own wife.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 28, 18 6:55 PM
FYI, courtesy of "The Daily Mail"...


'I am truly sorry': Woman who outed married U.S. Naval War College professor who 'sent her nude photo' says she now regrets going public with allegations

A woman who says she received explicit photos and messages from a married professor has apologized for making their alleged correspondences public

Professor John Schindler at the US Naval War College in Rhode Island allegedly took a photo of his penis and sent it, along with the ...more
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 29, 18 6:21 PM
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By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on May 30, 18 12:32 AM
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You do realize that the offense of photo in question was actually requested by the woman who quote "outed" Mr. Schlesinger?

Of course you do. That's why you made such an intelligent comment.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 30, 18 10:21 AM
I never address whether it was requested or not. I address the intelligence in snapping photos of private parts and electronically transmitting them by a supposed self proclaimed "expert" in the intelligence field.

But then you carefully read my comment and saw that because of your higher intelligence. I mean, you did have that high IQ statement about the belief in God.

Thank you for the compliment.
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on May 31, 18 8:59 AM
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By highhatsize (3566), East Quogue on May 31, 18 9:36 AM
Ah, the gang is all here finally. Fraternity know as Pie Dolta Dolts.

Welcome Mythomaniac in charge!

The intelligence pool for your lot just dried up with your innacurate fake news post. Feel free to snap pictures of your tiny Tim, it's just not bright to share them...and that was my comment.
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on May 31, 18 3:58 PM
Well, she asked for it. So, the argument about misconduct is null and void.

Thanks for playing.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 31, 18 8:02 PM
LOL...certainly no blackmail could take place there. It's a shock this guy maintained a security clearance.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 31, 18 8:22 PM
Apparently talking dirty got to "wanna see something dirty?" In certain digital environs a certain modicum of trust should exist. The woman apologised. And lest we forget, the subject in question was in an "open relationship".

BTW, was the first **** pic ever in black and white? Maybe. When did that first appear in our cultural lexicon? Me, I'm guessing the day after film was invented...


"People so uptight, the English kicked them out."

~ Robin Williams
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 31, 18 9:50 PM
"Well, she asked for it. So, the argument about misconduct is null and void."

AWESOMENESS, add this to the moronic pile. #metoo. "She asked for it"

You two are so lost. Is it acceptable for a democratic congressman to snap photos of itsy bitsy if "She asks for it"?

How about a big movie mogul who offers a starring role "if she asks for it"

The intelligence on display IS OUTSTANDING! Truly mind-numbing proof positive of what I have been saying FOR YEARS!!

She ...more
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 1, 18 12:11 AM
I understand how what two consenting adults do to get their rocks off can reflect on their lack of prudence, but to generally discredit a person because they sent racy pics is a stretch.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 1, 18 6:17 AM
@ Bayman3142

You obviously haven't heard yet, but the nuns who used to do the security clearance investigations for the FBI all quit in 1967.
By highhatsize (3566), East Quogue on Jun 1, 18 8:06 AM
Ah, consider me enlightened.

A married man, holding a position high up in the NSA, shows prudence in the act of penile selfies and the transmission of same to a woman he never met, because she asked for it. Truly counter-intelligent.

Since the fact that she was a willing recipient, no misconduct on the penile selfie by a government employee.

So, why the fuss over little Willy and Monica?

Thanks for losing, again.
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 1, 18 10:39 AM
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You'll recall the fuss over Monica was perjury, not consensual acts between adults.

Sure, he opened himself up to blackmail, unless he didn't...a picture of your genitalia only has as much power as you give it, and assuming the nature of his marriage was as "open" as alleged, it didn't hold much.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 1, 18 10:48 AM
You are so correct, little willy's actions by a sitting president with that intern and a cigar were not misconduct, it was the lying that was wrong....

In your world.

By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 2, 18 10:54 AM
The act was marital misconduct but not official misconduct.

The lying was official misconduct.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 2, 18 11:09 AM
A sitting president, hero of liberals everywhere, committed the act of adultery in office, a criminal act.

Disbarred and fined $90,000.00

Misconduct

Talk to my hand
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 3, 18 6:04 PM
I don't think adultery was a crime in his jurisdiction at the time, but I can't be bothered to look. I guess it's possible. Anti-miscegenation laws were still on the books in the 60's.
Jun 5, 18 11:27 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Also, turns out he wasn't disbarred. He was suspended from the state bar and, facing potential disbarment from the supreme court bar, resigned instead. I wonder how often you get away with these little lies?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 3, 18 11:27 PM
Wow, big difference. Guess you did have time to fact check. My info came from the ny times 10/1/01.Funny tho, you never mention your blatant lie about misconduct. Your hero did well these past days, still shukin' and Jivin' that little willy.

Disbarrment was imminent, he took a guilty cowards way out. Justice isn't deaf, dumb, and blind like some posters I know.
Jun 7, 18 11:07 PM appended by Bayman3142
Cowards way out seems to be the theme here, take your little blanky and have a seat in the corner.
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 6, 18 11:07 PM
It’s fair game, he is a conservative.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 28, 18 5:04 PM
Well I guess you can't say blatantly racist stuff and expect to keep your job unless you're president of the United States.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 29, 18 5:39 PM
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Or Bill Maher, Elvis Presley, Walt Disney, Chelsea Handler, Alec Baldwin, Jay-Z and Joy Behar.
By even flow (657), East Hampton on May 30, 18 8:48 AM
@even flow: You do know slander and defamation are punishable by law, right?
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 30, 18 11:25 AM
FYI:


Here’s How the FBI Investigation Into Russia and Trump Campaign Actually Started

By John R. Schindler • 05/28/18 9:50am


No story is hotter across America this Memorial Day weekend than what the Federal Bureau of Investigation did—and did not do—in 2016 about Russian connections to Donald J. Trump. As the summer enjoys its unofficial kickoff, headlines and social media are overflowing with accusations, of varying degrees of veracity, ...more
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 29, 18 6:22 PM
Where are the Russians, the FBI was investigating? What crime were they investigating? How is it James Clapper didn't know about the investigation?How is it the FBI couldn't stop the so-called Russian interference? Isn't it ironic, the same people who exonerated Hillary, were investigating Russia and Trump?

Perplexing....




By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 29, 18 8:36 PM
Compartmentalization.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 30, 18 10:22 AM
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By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 30, 18 10:35 AM
@Po Boy: As of this morning, Curt Gowdy, Judge Napolitano, and Shep Smith can answer all your questions.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 30, 18 10:47 AM
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LMAO.... "Curt Gowdy"....that explains all I need to know, thanks June.

The questions surrounding the witch hunt, and so many more, remain.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 31, 18 7:53 PM
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This may come as a shock to most "right wingers", but there really is information the public need not be privy to.

You don't show your aces until the hand is called. Or, if you're stupid go right ahead...
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 31, 18 8:01 PM
Care to correlate that random thought to something being discussed here?
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 31, 18 8:13 PM
If you can't see the correlation, a.k.a. playing close to the vest, perhaps I'm not the one who's lost.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 31, 18 8:38 PM
I get the aura you're going for, but what does that even mean?
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 31, 18 8:44 PM
Well, let's see. Multiple Russians were indicted by Mueller, check. The crime? Election fraud. Yet again, compartmentalization. As a general rule, people are gullible and sensationalism tends to rule the day, ergo Trump wins election by 80k votes and the electoral college, despite losing the popular vote.

Classified means CLASSIFIED for a reason. Tip your hand, and lose. Airtight cases win guilty verdicts. Sloppiness and a lack of due diligence does not.

Drumpf is f*****.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 31, 18 9:19 PM
Uncheck, nothing to do with Trump, double uncheck, nor "election fraud."

LMAO!!!! "Classified means CLASSIFIED for a reason."

Holy Guacamole Batman, someone tell Hillary and the FBI!!!!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 1, 18 8:15 AM
Someone should tell Trump too. He likes to brag about classified ops while giving speeches.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 3, 18 9:53 AM
If you're going to hurl accusations, be specific!

...like he did in the XXXX speech on the classified XXXXX op.

???????
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 4, 18 8:01 AM
"How much of a nazi you have to be to pull a frightened, crying child away from a mother LEGALLY seeking asylum offering no reassurance or explanation of when the child will see that mother again? And then wake up, go to work, and do it again? (Just following orders are you?). We are the shithole nation.
Now confirmed some of these children are ending up in the hands of traffickers. I repeat: WE ARE THE SHITHOLE NATION. And, by the way, following orders can be a crime).
And not a peep ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on May 29, 18 10:56 PM
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I'd say that if certain language is good enough for the president's mouth, it's OK for your eyes.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 30, 18 8:16 AM
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How very weak of you. Don't know about you but I don't need to live my life or keep my high morals alive because of what a president says. You libs hang on his every word...waiting, just waiting for him to pull a Roseanne Bahr (right Mets Fan?) so you can rid yourselves of him. It's never going to happen. Unpack your bags folks. He's here to stay...and for 6 and 1/2 more years at that. Buckle in libbies, the best has yet to come.
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on May 30, 18 4:43 PM
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When somebody comes to grab your granddaughter's something, tell her it's okay because the president does it all the time. Explain that to her when she asks why you would support such a man, if you think morals aren't important.
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 30, 18 9:15 PM
Well...you can thank Obama's ultra liberal political correctness for Trump unabashed behavior. It's the reason why he ran. Enough was enough. Everyone saw through it...which is why Trump won and will win again.
Keep an eye on your precious lil' state of California too. The blue wave is making way for a red tsunami. I don't listen to or get persuaded by fake news. Look at the numbers. The Dems are struggling...just like your precious lil' Metsies.
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on May 30, 18 9:49 PM
Yes it's great that Trump got elected, all that political correctness causes so much turmoil. It's nice we're back to the good old days where Nazi's and white supremacists are "fine" people.
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 31, 18 5:55 AM
I'm not the one complaining about a bad word, Diocese.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on May 31, 18 6:24 AM
I actually heard people trying to defend Ms. Barr. She was not denied her first amendment rights. She was not arrested, or sent to a gulag, nobody emptied her bank accounts. As a matter of fact, she can keeping talking all the smack she wants. I was a big fan, however in 2018, relating a black person to Planet of the Apes, she got what she deserved. You can exercise your rights by boycotting Disney and all of it's products. Try calling someone in your workplace a derogatory name and see how long ...more
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on May 30, 18 1:31 PM
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How about Joyless Bahar slamming Christians? Is that ok in the hyper PC world that the left dwells in?
By bigfresh (3501), north sea on May 30, 18 4:46 PM
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Perhaps because "Christians" are the largest population of hypocrites?

Just sayin'...
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 31, 18 7:59 PM
Joy Behar is a Christian, and did not "slam" them. Her job on The View is to be funny and provocative--the role of comedians in democratic societies. She commented on Mike Pence's assertion that God talks to him, saying it's one thing to talk to God, but if you hear God talk to you, hearing voices is a "mental illness". Just a joke, people. Like any pol, Mike Pence is fair game, and not a sacred cow.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 31, 18 8:26 PM
Your comparing apples and oranges. Roseanne is nothing but a two bit racist conspiracy theorist nut. Try to cite anything even close that joy Bahar has said.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 30, 18 5:23 PM
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Oh Where Do We Begin this way too much to list
By widow gavits (183), sag harbor on May 31, 18 12:41 PM
Typical non-response. Good at hurling invective. Lousy at defense.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on May 31, 18 1:50 PM
Widow, you begin by writing them down. Start anytime.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on May 31, 18 2:21 PM
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By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 31, 18 8:00 PM
Well, Trump is not only a liar, but he looks like an idiot as well.

Still defending him?
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 31, 18 8:03 PM
I disagree with your false premise, but he's also a great leader, and gets things done.

All things considered, you bet.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 31, 18 8:10 PM
B*******.
May 31, 18 8:38 PM appended by Mr. Z
Pathological liar and sycophant are not listed under the heading "great leader". Super sorry.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 31, 18 8:38 PM
God Bless America!
May 31, 18 8:41 PM appended by Po Boy
"Pathological liar and sycophant are not listed under the heading "great leader". Super sorry." Well again, I don't agree with the false premise, but, you do realize Obama, Hillary, Biden, and your heroes Bernie and Elizabeth "Pocahontas" Warren fall into that same category you jmention?
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on May 31, 18 8:41 PM
You list none of my heroes. Thanks for playing.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on May 31, 18 9:20 PM
Can you imagine waking up to Joy Behar's face every morning without the makeup? Jeez. It would be like waking up next to Jerry Springer with a wig on. Yikes! Can't stand her or Whoopi or anyone else on that show. Even the conservatives. They all disgust me.
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on May 31, 18 10:18 PM
Well we now know who the resident incel is.
By johnj (815), Westhampton on Jun 1, 18 10:32 AM

The joy you radiate in your posts surely must show in your face. I imagine you as a regular doppelganger of George Clooney.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 1, 18 11:05 AM
Thanks diseased, nice to see you went for the lowest common denominator, someone’s looks.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 1, 18 5:36 AM
There's nothing funny about Joyless Bahar's "comedy".
By bigfresh (3501), north sea on Jun 1, 18 5:55 AM
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she might not be funny to some people, at least she’s not a two bit racist.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 1, 18 6:56 AM
She does a great job at portraying a dried up old hag on her show.
By pw herman (971), southampton on Jun 1, 18 10:07 AM
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MAY JOBLESS RATE 3.8%
BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT RECORD LOW

GO TRUMP!
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 1, 18 8:57 AM
Thanks Obama!
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 1, 18 11:09 AM
... for wasting our time
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 4, 18 11:08 AM
Is it me or have democrats been MUCH more angry since obama was outed as a spy?
By SlimeAlive (837), Southampton on Jun 1, 18 11:05 AM
And who was he a spy for, Slime?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 1, 18 11:24 AM
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It’s you slime, your preaching your false and misleading lies again. But carry on, your doing fine
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 1, 18 11:15 AM
Holder wants to run against Trump in 2020? Oh please, please, please Mr Holder...please do it!! Would love nothing more than to see you get destroyed by Trump. Please do it!!!!!
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 1, 18 5:37 PM
Same nonsense, different day.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 1, 18 7:39 PM
Must be tough being a leftwing Democrat Party supporter Fred s, having to drum up the outrage and hatred expected of you every day, day in and day out, year in and year out , facing the fact that history has relegated your political philosophy to the dung heap. Carry on.
By bigfresh (3501), north sea on Jun 2, 18 7:18 AM
Can you please point me to anything hateful that Fred has ever posted?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 2, 18 7:34 AM
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All you need to do is find the right wing radio hack he's parroting this week.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 4, 18 9:06 PM
Rachel Maddow.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 5, 18 8:00 PM
Hey big fresh, thanks for the comment. I only call people out for their flat out lies or distorted unfounded claims. I don’t say people have a mental disorder. I don’t pick on people’s looks. I’m not a birther or conspiracy spreading person. It’s ok if you don’t agree with my politics, I don’t agree with yours. I don’t claim to be right all the time, as you do. Thanks for the “carry on” , I will.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 2, 18 10:55 AM
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Here's something new Fred. It's no nonsense, although it is a different day. NOKU summit is back on! Now we all know that if this was Obama forcing a summit to possibly bring peace to that area, you and all the other libs on here and in fake news would be gloating about it. But because it's Trump....crickets. Sad!
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 2, 18 1:29 PM
Thanks diseased, I read the news too! I’d like to see North Korea without nukes, let’s see how it shakes out.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 2, 18 1:53 PM
If the Korean peninsula is denuclearized, Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize more than Obama did.

If the end-result is the same verification/custody agreements as were just torn up in regard to Iran, then he deserves to be jeered offstage.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 2, 18 2:37 PM
I’m not sure how it’s going to go. John Bolton is not the guy I would want advising anyone on a peaceful solution. He got his way with regards to Iran, that alone is scary enough.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 2, 18 2:42 PM
SURFS UP!

Catch the Red Wave ~
By Ditch Bum (478), Water Mill on Jun 2, 18 3:46 PM
Careful ditch bum, looks like a close out.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 2, 18 6:33 PM
The big blue wave is a now series of tiny gas bubbles in the bath tub.
By even flow (657), East Hampton on Jun 4, 18 5:13 AM
Maybe In your bath tub even flow, now take a deep breath. That’s red tide your smelling.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 4, 18 6:41 AM
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‘Pack Your Bags’: Italy’s New Interior Minister has had enough of Migrants and there disrespect for his country.
Italy's Interior Minister and deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini's has promised to stop Sicily's immigration hotspot
AFP — Italy’s new interior minister Matteo Salvini will be in Sicily Sunday to push the anti-immigration platform that propelled him to power at one of the country’s main landing points for refugees.
By Ditch Bum (478), Water Mill on Jun 4, 18 11:00 AM
We are witnessing the suicide of western civilization. Even here one of America's two major political parties is openly, publicly aiding a foreign enemy invade our country. It seems every country that has welcomed this animal behavior has regretted it very quickly ! Italy needs to deport the invading horde immediately. Unfortunately the may have to deport that Marxist Pope with them.
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 4, 18 11:06 AM
Yes, we know, clash of cultures, war for civilization, end of times, the Irish and Italian immigrants heard it too.

Nobody benefited more from the increased scrutiny of Arab and Persian immigrants than Latin Americans.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 4, 18 11:12 AM
Yes, we know Trump rents to Russians so they can have their children on U.S. soil. Profits nicely from "Birth Tourism", he does. And we know he rents Trump Tower space to Russians, so the FBI was monitoring Trump Tower.

Fancy the GOP's favorite color is red...
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 5, 18 6:22 PM
Did you just say you know that Trump profits by renting to Russians as part of a birth tourism scheme - which explains the FBI monitoring Trump Tower?

Did you also then add a snarky response at the end to emphasize how confident you are in the accuracy of what I attempted to describe above?

By even flow (657), East Hampton on Jun 5, 18 6:44 PM
Yeah, that's been out for a while now. Since, like before the election. They are two separate and disparate events, but you could easily comprehend that from thoroughly reading the post, or just reading the news.

In other news, Trump appeared to forget the words to "God Bless America" at his "Celebration of America Event". Incidentally, this event was held to show how unpatriotic so many of those in the president's purview are, LOL...
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 5, 18 6:55 PM
In other news, we have you on video Z not mouthing or singing the words to the National Anthem in 1985. You have been assigned to re-education camp. The authorities will be contacting you.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 5, 18 7:47 PM
BROADDRICK: WHAT ABOUT MY RAPE?
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 4, 18 5:13 PM
Trump: What about my party?

“The Eagles call the birthplace of our democracy home, so it’s no surprise that this team embodies everything that makes our country and our city great. Their athletic accomplishments on the field led to an historic victory this year. Fans all across the country rallied behind them because we like to root for the underdog and we feel joy when we see the underdogs finally win. I’m equally proud of the Eagles’ activism off the field. These ...more
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 5, 18 6:57 PM
You mean, the anti-President Trump Jim Kenney, Mayor of Philadelphia posted an anti-President tirade for a team that the majority decided not to attend, and it's President Trump's fault, for cancelling the event??

What, didn't get the desired photo op?

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 5, 18 7:39 PM
Going forward, what would be more embarrassing: continuing to cancel events when invitees decline to attend, or refusing to invite them in the first place?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 10:08 AM
SCOTUS rules that intolerant libs who wish harm on anyone that does t share their views can’t make a private business make a cake in the shape of male genitalia. You Democrats still proud to be associated with such lunatics !?

By even flow (657), East Hampton on Jun 4, 18 8:29 PM
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They could easily have gone to a gay bakery. But they wanted to cause a false discrimination case! The militant race baiter's, SJWs, and feminists will never be happy no matter what . All the race baiter's have is race baiting. So they have nothing but their anger. Anger at something that was corrected decades ago but now only gets worse because of themselves. You don't get respect by the color of your skin or your sexual orientation. You get it by the character of your soul.If you went to a Muslim ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1671), southampton on Jun 5, 18 6:57 AM
masterpiece bakery is a private business and they can do whatever they want and serve whoever they want. The market will discipline the bad operators just as it rewards the good ones. this should have never gotten this far.

just go to a bakery that doesn't mind making you your cake your way. DONE. or, start a new bakery business that makes any cake for anybody doing anything! you could maybe order a cake of muhammad having relations with a pig at your new bakery or a cake in the shape ...more
By Erin 27 E (1031), hampton bays on Jun 5, 18 7:09 AM
Ya'll should read the decision: it hinged on the fact that the local regulatory body showed hostility to the religious beliefs of the "straight" baker.

"As this Court has long held, and reaffirms today, a vendor cannot escape a public accommodations law because his religion disapproves selling a product to a group of customers, whether defined by sexual orientation, race, sex, or other protected trait."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 5, 18 7:28 AM
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Apparently you have conveniently never seen the undercover reporters who have tried to order a gay cake in Dearborn Michigan Muslim owned bakery's. In the bubble you have created for yourself would this "accommodations" law have to be enforced there as well ?
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 5, 18 10:06 AM
In the bubble I have created for myself called "direct quotes from the SCOTUS decision"?
Jun 5, 18 10:28 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Just went through the trouble of watching the video. Turns out none of the cake requests were denied, except in places that don't make cakes. Womp womp.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 5, 18 10:28 AM
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Does that mean you can't get d*** cakes for bachelorette parties either?

'Cause that would be a double standard...
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 5, 18 7:01 PM
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Hey Z, I''m curious, you still a staunch critic as you once were of Jus Soli for children of illegal parents ?
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 5, 18 7:57 PM
@even flow: First, there was no discussion whatsoever between the baker and the couple as to the design of the cake. Second, there was no such "intolerant libs" ruling as you describe. Third, you trumpists proud to be associated with the perv who grabs female genitalia?
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 5, 18 8:03 PM
Trumpist here.... speaking of genitals, you have the audacity to support a candidate in the name of Hillary who ran cover for a man who did A LOT worse, than "grab?"
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 5, 18 9:13 PM
@Erin 27 E. "Revolting rights"? Hardly in short supply: Sorry, I can't sell you those condoms, I'm Catholic. You'll have to go to Register 5. But she's Muslim, so she can't sell you that ham. You'll have to go to Register 8 but he's Mormon, so he can't sell you that Coke. Try Register 2, maybe, but she's a Jehovah's Witness so she won't sell you that birthday card. Maybe try Register 4, he's an LGBT guy who believes in equality. He'll sell you anything because he's not a small-minded ...more
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 5, 18 9:20 PM
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@Erin 27 E. "Revolting rights"? Hardly in short supply: Sorry, I can't sell you those condoms, I'm Catholic. You'll have to go to Register 5. But she's Muslim, so she can't sell you that ham. You'll have to go to Register 8 but he's Mormon, so he can't sell you that Coke. Try Register 2, maybe, but she's a Jehovah's Witness so she won't sell you that birthday card. Maybe try Register 4, he's an LGBT guy who believes in equality. He'll sell you anything because he's not a small-minded ...more
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 5, 18 9:20 PM
Figures a trumpist would ascribe the sins of one onto another. I'll bet your wife has had occasion to "run cover" for you. Would you then think she deserves the contempt of others if you worked things out?
Since you find doing a "lot worse than grabbing" abhorrent, why not a peep of condemnation of the adultery, assault and rape of dozens of accusers--including his own wife--by the pervert in the Oval Office?
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 5, 18 9:45 PM
Well that was rather personal. I guess I ascribe the so called accusations, no more or less than that of you beating your husband or you carrying out other indiscretions in utter disdain for his or her manhood.

Oh deary, you see, It' rather simple. Wait for the evidence before making judgement, not just the accusers. Am I to believe, you...as an an accuser, you and the Donald... well, never mind.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 5, 18 10:14 PM
Jus Soli, ex post facto.

You can't make a law like that regressive. Only an idiot would try it.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 6, 18 7:27 PM
I see. That's one heck of a dodge of the question, I didn't ask about ex post facto.

Am I to read into that as an indicator of how far Left you've swung?
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 7, 18 12:49 PM
Dumbest. Administration. Ever.

“The notion that the bureau planted a spy in the president’s campaign is laughable, when you know how sources are run and how the rules work around counter-intelligence. It shows the naïveté of the people who are talking about it. Trump and his campaign staff, including Mike Flynn, who I’ve known for years, had no frickin’ clue what they were doing when it came to national security.”

~ Robert E. Anderson Jr.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 4, 18 9:05 PM
Says a guy who retired in 2015, before Trump was even a candidate and the "rule" became a thing of the past.

Dumbest. Quote. Ever.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 5, 18 11:35 AM
Sure. 'Cause people far more qualified than you which you disagree with are stupid. It's the "right wing" way...
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 5, 18 6:17 PM
You only think you know me.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 5, 18 7:27 PM
Hey even flow, I’m proud to be associated with you.not implying your a lunatic tho.we are both Americans.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 4, 18 9:24 PM
Hey undocumented, gay isn’t a race.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 5, 18 10:03 AM
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Race baiter's, SJWs, gender baiter's, no differance they all run plays from the same rules for radicals book... Did you see todays loony alt left headline "The Miss America Organization has announced an end to the swimsuit portion of its competition, and will no longer judge contestants specifically on their outward appearance." Lolllll
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 5, 18 10:13 AM
Which right wing radio host is spewing those talking points this week?
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 5, 18 6:18 PM
Lester Holt.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 5, 18 7:27 PM
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Don’t worry they call me, you can still get in the contest.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 5, 18 11:41 AM
The new competition is now based on brains, they call me - at least - has a chance.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 5, 18 7:49 PM
One other thing, can someone post an article showing they wanted a cake with male genitalia? The only articles I’ve seen never mention that. One article , which was satire, was the only one.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 5, 18 2:25 PM
It was chocolate.
By even flow (657), East Hampton on Jun 5, 18 6:47 PM
What if a muslim man walked into a bakery owned by a gay couple and asked for a cake that shows muslim men throwing gays off of a rooftop? Sounds outlandish because it is! But THIS is what has become of our beautiful country that Obama tried destroying. Yes, Obama. The REAL race baiter. The real culprit who pit police against civilians. The real culprit who encouraged hateful protests and drove the wedge between rich and poor. The one who likes the idea of bringing down the statues and the history ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 5, 18 9:52 PM
Thanks diseased for that, your consistent.obama is destroying the country. Get a grip.a race baiter? How about the birther movement, what was that? You got a nice dog whistle there, keep blowing.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 5, 18 10:15 PM
Are you one of those leftists who turn any negative comment about Barak Hussein Obama into a racial issue Fred s?
By bigfresh (3501), north sea on Jun 6, 18 1:48 PM
Can you please point me to anything hateful that Fred has ever posted?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (2872), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 2, 18 7:34 AM
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VOS
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 5, 18 10:29 PM
And your point is?
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 5, 18 10:45 PM
I think he's trying to say your last comment was hateful?

What a snowflake.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 6, 18 3:55 AM
You're welcome.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 6, 18 9:23 AM
He's some Patriot, that Donald J. Trump. Standing up there proudly singing all the words to God Bless America as loud as he possibly could.........oh, wait..........
By johnj (815), Westhampton on Jun 6, 18 12:26 PM
You mean the God Bless America that any 3rd grader knows and that was written by ---wait for it---an immigrant! ?
This pathetic idiot went to a MILITARY academy for g-d's sake where they probably started their day with a rousing version.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 6, 18 2:24 PM
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Hey big fresh, I call racists , racists, it’s as easy as that. I have no problem with difference of political opinions, racism is a different story.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 6, 18 4:45 PM
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agreed Fred, but painting all who opposed the disaster that was the Obama regime as racists is not fact based.
By bigfresh (3501), north sea on Jun 8, 18 1:58 PM
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It's just a song. I find it WAY more offensive that Obama chose to hardly ever salute the Marines that stood guard at every exit/entry post for 8 straight years. Trump was doing it before he was sworn in. Talk about apples and oranges. The pimp in chief had more respect for gender confusion than his own military and police officers. It's OK though. Hillary, Comey, McCabe (who wan't immunity all the sudden), Lynch, Clapper and the rest of those misfits I pray go down in flames. Criminals. Every last ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 6, 18 5:37 PM
Pimp in chief? Keep going , your on a roll. Get it all out.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 6, 18 5:51 PM
Yup...pimp in chief. How racist of YOU to think that way. Wasn't what I was going for. But this is a classic example of how liberals think. Thank you Fred for showing us your natural reaction and true feelings. Like I've said before, in my life experience, I've come to learn that it's the liberals who are the real racists in this society. When I was younger, I was a huge liberal. Smoked pot, was free as a bird, played guitar, hugged trees...the whole bit. Then I got older, landed a good steady job ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 6, 18 6:31 PM
At least we know the British burned Washington, not the Canadians, LOL!
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 6, 18 7:26 PM
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And that the British threw tea into Boston Harbor!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 7, 18 12:44 PM
The English & Canadians are both British. The War of 1812 burning of DC was in retaliation for American attacks on British forts in Canada. Saying the Canadians burned Washington is close or exact to being the truth as it is more than likely some where there. God bless the Canadians of today who upgraded to US citizenship, the rest not so much..
By pw herman (971), southampton on Jun 8, 18 2:26 PM
Canada didn't exist, ergo they weren't Canadians.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 10, 18 7:13 AM
Thanks for that diseased. You have a great story there.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 6, 18 6:40 PM

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
Bill

“I’m not sitting here as some little woman standing by my man, like Tammy Wynette.”
Hillary

“The great story here for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president.”
Hillary

“It depends upon what the meaning of the word ‘is’ ...more
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 6, 18 7:53 PM
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Not only did Trump have his encounters prior
to taking office, but they were also consensual.
BIG difference!
By loading... (547), quiogue on Jun 7, 18 10:58 AM
Not only did Trump have his encounters prior
to taking office, but they were also consensual.
BIG difference!
By loading... (547), quiogue on Jun 7, 18 10:59 AM
@loading: Oh really? Ask his 19 accusers how "consensual" his assaults were. Ask the 13 year-old who is among them. Ask his first wife, the mother of his children, about her accusation of being raped by him (after he pulled chunks of hair out of her head).
This same pig who referred to his own daughter as a piece of a** in a radio interview. That alone puts him in a whole different category of deplorable. There's your "BIG" difference".
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 7, 18 11:54 AM
Conservatives only care about moral quandaries when it's a person with a (D) next to their name.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 7, 18 12:26 PM
Bull. Conservatives care about moral quandaries regardless of the letter next to the name, viewing things in its context and by rule of law.

Donald Trump was elected just as Bill Clinton was. We may not both like it, but at least respect it - those who voted knew EXACTLY what they were voting for and did so regardless.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 7, 18 12:40 PM
Did they know he was a lying, cheating, racist, demagogue?

And they voted for it?

Wow.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 7, 18 1:47 PM
Whitewater 1992

Such dolts.
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 7, 18 11:50 PM
No wrongdoing on behalf of the Clintons was ever uncovered, next!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 6:13 AM
Point was he was/is a scumbag and people still voted for him.

Figured you miss it.
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 8, 18 9:09 AM
No wrongdoing! Next!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 9:17 AM
Bay, could you provide Fore clarity on what your definition of "was, was?

Spin spin spin-away Fore....you know better than Juanita Broadrick and the American people.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 8, 18 3:51 PM
No spin necessary. No wrongdoing found.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 3:54 PM
@po

Sure, if you speak double down dumb.....here goes!

Used in a sentence:
"Depends on what was, was. If what was, was what was, then what was is what is. If what was, was what was before what was. Then of course is, is what is, is."

Or

" I did not have sexually relations with that girl who I will not apologize to because she doesn't deserve it, but she got what she deserved with a cigar.....now if you will excuse me...I need to meet Loretta on the tarmac ...more
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 8, 18 11:40 PM
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President Trump ...
By joe hampton (3109), The Hamptons on Jun 6, 18 10:34 PM
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Much like clothes, a title does not grant a man class. If one needs any more proof that the GOP's plan to gut public education and dumb down the country succeeded, look no further than the last presidential election.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 7, 18 6:55 PM
@ DiseaseDiocese

So when you were young you smoked pot. Now you have money and want to keep it all.

All that has changed is the manifestation of your selfish egoism.

A liberal!? Don't be silly.
By highhatsize (3566), East Quogue on Jun 6, 18 10:52 PM

Sorry if I have mislead you. I hope that The Donald will win the Republican nomination because he will certainly lose the presidential election, enabling the Democratic Party to secure the presidency (and, perhaps, a senatorial majority with a turkey like The Donald at the head of the ticket.) It could only be better if this egomaniac opted to wage a third-party contest after the mainstream Republicans screw him out of the nomination. THAT might result in a Democratic majority in the House ...more
Jun 6, 18 11:58 PM appended by joe hampton
Go - - - THE DONALD!!! By highhatsize (2698), East Quogue on Apr 22, 16 9:39 PM
By joe hampton (3109), The Hamptons on Jun 6, 18 11:58 PM
"Republicans screw him out of the nomination."

A la Bernie Sanders, ooopsie, that was the dems.

By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 7, 18 9:30 AM
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By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 7, 18 11:01 AM
As if Trump supporters ever shopped for Ralph Lauren at Macy's. LOL!
By johnj (815), Westhampton on Jun 7, 18 11:38 AM
What’s the boycott for?
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 7, 18 11:15 AM
For calling the first lady a bad name on a comedy show, the horror.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 7, 18 11:25 AM
1,000 non-violent drug offenders get their sentences commuted by President Obama and conservatives crucify him for it.
trump does this once and wingnuts hoist him on their hypocrisy pedestal like he's the humanitarian of the century.


By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 7, 18 12:25 PM
No even close to truthful and accurate. Any outcry was because many of them were ALSO convicted of firearms violations related to drug crimes.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 7, 18 12:43 PM
Didn't Trump want to give the death penalty to drug dealers? Is there any issue that this guy has a clear stance on or does he just kowtow to anyone who'll tell him they'll be his friend. Sad!
By johnj (815), Westhampton on Jun 7, 18 12:51 PM
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Checking the veracity of your claim will come later, but in the meantime, where's your "outcry" because of Alice Johnson's money laundering conviction (message to Manafort ???) related to her drug crime?
Or because D'Souza pled guilty, never requested appeal, and his own wife asked the court not to be lenient?
Or that Arpaio was pardoned BEFORE sentencing, and that he was unimagineably sadistic subjecting inmates to cruel and unusual punishment?
Or that trump ...more
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 7, 18 1:16 PM
No, not drug dealers, "drug kingpins." It was floated as a potential policy to stem the opioid epidemic. Yes, the two terms are often used interchangeably, but your average every day drug dealer would not have been the focus. It would have been an expansion to current drug-induced homicide laws.
Jun 7, 18 1:18 PM appended by Po Boy
The easy answer June, is, you never asked. I'll be more than happy to respond when I have time, but, I have a feeling the merits and context of each case you've listed won't be to your liking.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 7, 18 1:18 PM
Ok June, here is my quick response glancing at the particulars. Each of the examples you cite the individuals were convicted in a court of law. I'll assume the evidence supported the convictions, in fact, I heard D'Souza himself take responsibility for breaking the law just the other day. I'm good with the convictions and the pardons as none were violent and done so within the rule of law.


By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 7, 18 1:32 PM
@Po Boy: Of course you're "good with the pardons...". They were granted by your Jesus King. How about his latest lie that we're exporting coal, gas, and petroleum for the first time? OK with him either being a liar or an idiot? Don't bother--we already know.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 7, 18 1:52 PM
LOL. June, I answered your question, and I've never provided you commentary on pardons by others. Provide me with names of those you purport I wouldn't be good and I'm more than happy to provide you commentary on that, too. Each case is different, some with more merit than others. Some..GASP...may have no merit at all and I personally wouldn't agree with...GASP!



By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 8, 18 9:36 AM
Po boy, 3 mins of fact checking, no gun related drug pardons. One case that was focused on by the right, didn’t have anything to do with Obama.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 7, 18 1:41 PM
Thx for saving me the time. Just shows they've all contracted the Make Crap Up virus. No scruples. No morals. No concern for objective truth. Almost pointless to engage. As I once heard someone say, you can't talk to a gorilla.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 7, 18 4:05 PM
Wow: "No morals" "No objective truth" "You can't talk to a gorilla".

When you see a leftist using language like this, you can understand how left wing students in Cambodia felt justified in marching middle class families to their deaths in the killing fields. The degree of unrelenting hatred and your eagerness to dehumanize your fellow Americans is frightening. I'm sure you're too much of a coward to acknowledge this, but I strongly suspect you'd like to see Republicans dead, en masse.

By NateNewtown (52), east on Jun 7, 18 4:45 PM
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I just think someone missed their meds.


For the last 9 years.
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 7, 18 7:54 PM
The Khmer Rouge was a group which was not only xenophobic, but had a damaging view of self sufficiency. To compare them to the modern democratic party is just asinine and ignorant.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 8, 18 2:22 AM
No one wants to see anyone dead, get a grip on yourself . No matter what the political theology, once a despot like pol pot is involved, it’s way out of the realm of left or right leaning. It’s no longer politics, it’s a madman.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 7, 18 4:53 PM
Donald Trump: Investigate the Obama Administration for Trying to Sneak Around Iran Sanctions
7 Jun 2018
President Donald Trump reacted Thursday to the news that former President Barack Obama’s administration tried to sneak around the Iran sanctions to offer them financial aid.Trump will expose this Kenyan bum and his little chim chim Jarrett for what they are!
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 7, 18 6:25 PM
Nice, that’s the 4:30 whistle. Your coming in loud and clear.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 7, 18 6:31 PM
"I am a Iranian by birth and of my Islamic faith. I am also an American citizen and I seek to help change America to be a more Islamic country. My faith guides me and I feel like it is going well in the transition of using freedom of religion in America against itself " Valerie Jarrett Stanford University

"After we win this election, Its our turn. Payback time ! Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don't forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded.The ...more
By Ditch Bum (478), Water Mill on Jun 7, 18 6:47 PM
We see you're still wearing your dunce cap. Made of tin foil, is it?
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 7, 18 7:58 PM
Leave it to a "right winger" to persist in the use of spurious quotations. If there is one trait which you can count on from the lot, it's gullibility.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 8, 18 2:30 AM
Good one ditch bum. It took one minute of research on those quotes. False again, but keep trying . She’s neither Iranian nor Muslim. You guys just crack me up. That spaghetti ain’t sticking to the wall.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 7, 18 6:56 PM
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Good one ditch bum. It took one minute of research on those quotes. False again, but keep trying . She’s neither Iranian nor Muslim. You guys just crack me up. That spaghetti ain’t sticking to the wall.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 7, 18 6:57 PM
Hey they call me, what’s a chim chim? Just wondering.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 7, 18 7:02 PM
Tick..tock. Tick..tock. Tick..tock
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 7, 18 10:15 PM
MAN CONFRONTS BILL CLINTON OVER 26 FLIGHTS ON JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S LOLITA EXPRESS
Why did the former president spend so much time with a convicted pedo?

WHY INDEED ?

Sooner or later the world will know how twisted the Clintons are. Also Bush family, and, the Kenyan bicycle seat sniffer Obama and his wife Michael ...We are living in the twilight zone
By joe hampton (3109), The Hamptons on Jun 7, 18 10:23 PM
Why did Trump? His name is circled in Epstein's "Little Black Book". Just like Berlusconi's.

"Bunga, Bunga"!!!!

By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 8, 18 2:38 AM
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A mysterious move by the Senate Wednesday night is part of a Justice Department inquiry into a former Senate Intelligence Committee aide who may have leaked classified information.

The Senate unanimously approved a resolution allowing the committee to provide records to the Justice Department in response to a request related to the investigation.

The aide's identity and the lawmaker for whom he or she worked is not clear, but on Thursday, The New York Times published an article ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 7, 18 10:23 PM
There's no need to investigate anything. Hillary Clinon has admitted that her husband accepted $1 million from the government of Qatar for his "birthday party' while she was Secretary of State, and that it was not reported as required by her written and signed agreement, required before she was appointed as Secretary of State.

A clear violaion of the Emoluments Clause of the US Constitution.
By dfree (499), hampton bays on Jun 8, 18 6:43 AM
There's no need to investigate anything. Hillary Clinon has admitted that her husband accepted $1 million from the government of Qatar for his "birthday party' while she was Secretary of State, and that it was not reported as required by her written and signed agreement, required before she was appointed as Secretary of State.

A clear violaion of the Emoluments Clause of the US Constitution.
By dfree (499), hampton bays on Jun 8, 18 6:43 AM
Quick, what office did Bill Clinton hold that put him in violation of the Emoluments clause?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 8:19 AM
Problem is, it just wasn't Bill Clinton, it was the Clinton Foundation, run by Hill and Bill and "The Foundation" has admitted it failed to notify the State Department of the $1 million dollar "gift" from Qatar, in violation of the ethics agreement she signed. Under the agreement, Hillary promised she would notify the State Department's ethics official if a foreign government wished to donated.

BAM! Guilty! LOCK HER UP!





By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 8, 18 9:46 AM
My understanding is that Hillary wasn't a member of the foundation until she left the State Department.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 9:52 AM
It would seem whether accurate or not, that didn't matter to the State Department given her signing the agreement that she notify the State Department's ethics official if a foreign government wished to donate to the Clinton Foundation.

Conflict of interest, or...even perceived conflict of interest - either way... one is no better than the other since she knows full well as a government employee, it is incumbent upon her to avoid both.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 8, 18 10:20 AM
I don't think the agreement required that "she notify the State Department's ethics official if a foreign government wished to donate to the Clinton Foundation."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 10:29 AM
No doubt. But it did.

Do tell, what did the agreement governing transparency to avoid the perception that foreign affairs policy could be swayed by influence, do?

I anticipate the typical and tired path of arguing semantics....



By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 8, 18 11:41 AM
I believe the agreement was to advise the state department if there was any "material increase" in the amount of money donated to the foundation by foreign governments.

The foundation regularly received millions from the Qatari government, ipso facto, the donations was not a violation of the agreement.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 11:53 AM
LOL, well my semantic friend, as I said, the perception of impropriety is no better and the fact that it wasn't disclosed and then comment by the foundation withheld until hacked emails showed the Qatari officials "would like to see WJC ‘for five minutes’" didn't bode too well for ol' Hill, did it. Integrity is doing the right thing, when no one is looking and I believe from the State Department comment, they expected to see the donation reported as it was an increase, to previous "donations."


By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 8, 18 12:29 PM
And you're free to hold that view, but no wrongdoing was ever found.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 1:11 PM
No wrong doing in relation to it was ever scrutinized closely.

"Apart for attendance fees for CGI [Clinton Global Initiative] CGI, will not accept contributions from foreign governments."

~ Memorandum of Understanding signed by Clinton Foundation Officials in contemplation of Hillary Clinton becoming Secretary of State - December 12, 2008



Jun 8, 18 1:19 PM appended by Po Boy
Page 4 paragraph 4 to be exact.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 8, 18 1:19 PM
Bear in mind that CGI is a subsidiary of the greater Clinton Foundation.

In any event, as you were.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 1:25 PM
"This MoU is designed to establish greater transparency and predictability with regard to the activities of the Clinton Foundation in the context of Senator Clinton's service as Secretary of State."
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 8, 18 2:18 PM
Whether it actually achieved what it was designed to do is certainly up for debate, but what we can say conclusively is that Hillary was never found to have violated the agreement.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 2:23 PM
What a bunch of double talk. Hillary sure did violate the agreement...APPEARANCE of conflict of interests....

"WHEREAS the Parties have agreed to a set of protocols that would apply to the Foundation's activities to supplement any existing State Department protocols for managing conflicts of interests, and the appearance of conflicts of interest, as determined by the State Department's designated agency ethics official."

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 8, 18 3:14 PM
And you're free to hold that view, but no wrongdoing was ever found.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 3:17 PM
That's an interesting standard you've set your moral compass to amidst thousands of destroyed emails and a dot com domain used for government business and classified documents.... which gives further proof...

If it weren't for double standards, Democrats would have no standards at all.


By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 8, 18 3:42 PM
What's the double standard? Have I railed against Trump properties for continuing to receive patronage from foreign state-actors?

My personal opinion is irrelevant: No wrongdoing has been found, and that's the end of that.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 8, 18 3:53 PM
Your posts are well documented you allege the President is guilty of something, yet, no wrongdoing has been found, even no crime. Double standard.

In Hillary's case, of course wrongdoing was found. Clearly, the Clinton Foundation accepted and failed to report "donations" from a foreign country, in violation of agreements. The issue isn't whether there was any wrongdoing, clearly, there was. The issue is was anything was done about it. Nothing was. That too, is a double standard.

It's ...more
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 9, 18 12:38 PM
On the contrary, I've acknowledged a strong possibility that Trump was an ignorant patsy on multiple occasions.

As for Clinton: investigation closed, no wrongdoing found!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 9, 18 4:25 PM
On the contrary, I've acknowledged a strong possibility that Trump was an ignorant patsy on multiple occasions.

As for Clinton: investigation closed, no wrongdoing found!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 9, 18 4:25 PM
No. The investigation is still open.

Wrong doing already found at multiple levels.

Any repercussions? Not likely. It's Hillary.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 9, 18 10:13 PM
Riiiight
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 9, 18 10:33 PM
So, you're saying, the Clinton Foundation didn't receive "donations" from foreign governments, contrary to agreements that they wouldn't? And if they did, it would be reported?

Because they did. And that is wrong doing. Maybe not to the level of TBD wrongdoing at this time, but it gave the perception if nothing else, of wrong doing. Certainly, it didn't help with her quest for the Presidency.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 10, 18 12:17 AM
As a public servant, wrong doing IS defined as the perception of wrong doing. The fact that Camp Hillary took precautions to avoid the perception of wrong doing is telling enough. They simply FAILED miserably.

Again, your moral compass is heading way WAY south.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 10, 18 12:21 AM
Again, the agreement was clear. Material increases in donations were to be reported, not even rejected, just reported.

The perception of wrongdoing should be avoided, but is not wrongdoing in and of itself, sorry.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 10, 18 7:11 AM
Again, certainly there was wrong doing. The very memorandum of understanding that was used to pave the way for Hillary to become Secretary of State spelled it out:

"WHEREAS, the Parties also seek to ensure that the activities of the Foundation, however beneficial, do not create conflicts or the appearance of conflicts for Senator Clinton as Secretary of State."
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 10, 18 12:58 PM
Whether it actually achieved what it was designed to do is certainly up for debate, but what we can say conclusively is that Hillary was never found to have violated the agreement.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 11, 18 12:01 AM
All other proof and facts aside, you can't say Hillary was never found to have violated the agreement...the investigation is still ongoing.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 11, 18 10:16 AM
Hillary has NEVER been found to be in violation of the agreement.

I'll happily and readily change my tune in the face of an official finding to the contrary.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 11, 18 10:29 AM
It's a pleasure watching you defend the indefensible.

Just imagine if Trump destroyed 30,000 emails on a private server. What a double standard....utilizing Bleachbit after she had a legal obligation to produce them.

No wrong doing is laughable.


By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 11, 18 11:02 AM
You mean the same Trump that regularly rips up documents he is required to preserve by law?

And the same Trump who fired the team that was using tape to preserve those documents?

I imagine he'd get the same pass he's getting now.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 11, 18 11:19 AM
President Chump
By johnj (815), Westhampton on Jun 11, 18 11:20 AM
Hey, he wasn't found of any wrong doing, right?

Ain't the context of Hillary a mother?
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 11, 18 12:44 PM
It don't bother me none. Wrongdoing is not found until it is, that's precisely my point if you've been paying attention.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 11, 18 1:00 PM
LMAO..."Wrongdoing is not found until it is..." Yeah, and when a tree falls in the woods it doesn't make a sound if no one is there to hear it. Well, we've already established your moral compass is out of whack, I can't say I'm a bit surprised you turn a blind eye to deleted emails, private servers used for government business, and actions that violate policy and Memorandums intended to avoid even the mere perception of impropriety. Nothing to see here. There was no wrong doing found.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 11, 18 1:13 PM
That tree would make a crater. Where's the crater?

Where's the quid-pro-quo? Where's the preferential treatment? Where's the official misconduct?

Whether you think it's because there's a conspiracy to cover it up is inconsequential to me, as is your opinion of my moral compass.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 11, 18 1:57 PM
The fact that you find no wrong doing when Hillary violated the law by using an unsecured server for government business and classified information, destroyed thousands of emails in the face of official orders to turn them over is beyond having a broken moral compass.

The fact that you find no wrong doing accepting "donations" from foreign governments when the Clinton Foundation signed an agreement stating it would NOT accept "donations" from foreign governments is violating at minimum ...more
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 11, 18 3:49 PM
You're mischaracterizing the requirements of the agreement again...actually, you're just lying at this point.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 6:46 AM
You've already stated "no wrong doing," the rest is simply connecting the morally corrupt dots.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 9:45 AM
But at least I'm not lying about what the agreement was.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 9:52 AM
The black and white of a Memorandums of Understanding and State Department agreements doesn't lie. The existence of private servers and delete emails, doesn't lie. Heck, we wouldn't even know about the Qatar "donation" if it weren't for hacked emails.

"Apart for attendance fees for CGI [Clinton Global Initiative] CGI, will not accept contributions from foreign governments."

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 6:20 PM
CGI is a subsidiary of the Clinton Foundation. The greater foundation was permitted to receive contributions from foreign governments under the terms of the agreement.

You know this. I said it a dozen or so comments up. Liar.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 6:38 PM
"This MoU is designed to establish greater transparency and predictability with regard to the activities of the Clinton Foundation in the context of Senator Clinton's service as Secretary of State."

"WHEREAS, the Parties also seek to ensure that the activities of the Foundation, however beneficial, do not create conflicts or the appearance of conflicts for Senator Clinton as Secretary of State."

Jun 12, 18 6:43 PM appended by Po Boy
You know this. I said it a dozen or so comments up.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 6:43 PM
What does that have to do with CGI, a Clinton Foundation subsidiary, being the only part of the foundation that was not supposed to receive contributions from foreign governments?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 7:17 PM
"WHEREAS, the Parties also seek to ensure that the activities of the Foundation, however beneficial, do not create conflicts or the appearance of conflicts for Senator Clinton as Secretary of State."
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 8:09 PM
Whether it actually achieved what it was designed to do is certainly up for debate, but what we can say conclusively is that Hillary was never found to have violated the agreement.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 9:08 PM
Sure she violated the agreement, that's the point.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 9:27 PM
The intent and parameters of an agreement (which you consistently lie about) are different things. One can stay within the parameters and the agreement may simultaneously fail to meet it's intent (for a Trump-friendly example, see the Iran deal).

The former is a matter of fact: Hillary has never been held in violation of the agreement. The latter is a mater of opinion, and frankly I don't care about yours.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 11:14 PM
How about elaborating on the $500,000 "donation" from Algeria when it wanted to be taken off the terrorist list that went unreported? It was new money, and by any stretch of both the State Department agreement and the Memorandum of Understanding, should have been reported.

But wasn't. Oopsie.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 13, 18 7:44 AM
And then what happened? It was properly documented and no wrongdoing was found? Alright then.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 13, 18 8:00 AM
"..then...It was properly documented..." means it WASN'T properly documented. Wrong doing!

"Clinton Foundation admits breaking ethical rules by taking money from Algeria." The Telegraph. By Raf Sanchez. 26 Feb 2015

Only those with a calibrated moral compass can appreciate what "breaking ethical rules," means.




By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 13, 18 8:40 AM
Wrongdoing would be willful and purposeful violation of the agreement.

The donation was documented when the unintentional error was found.

No criminal charge. No official misconduct. No harm no foul.

She was still convicted by the court of public opinion, so what are you whining about?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 13, 18 9:02 AM
The "donation" wasn't documented when the error was found, it was documented when the "error" was uncovered.

HUGE difference.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 14, 18 9:42 AM
I gather the nuance you are highlighting is the question of WHO found the error.

I'd posit to you that without evidence of a clandestine motive it doesn't matter.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 10:02 AM
Put it another way...

If you're wife was cheating on you, and you didn't know about it, there is still wrong doing? After all, she broke the agreement, you have no evidence of it and the motive really doesn't matter, because the unethical behavior still happened. You may choose to do nothing when you find out about it, but the violation still took place.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 14, 18 10:46 AM
I like your analogy, but let's make it a little more apt:

The terms of the agreement are that your wife will tell you where she is when not at home.

Through an alleged unintentional error, she fails to let you know where she is one time.

You discovered the error, confronted her, and she appraised you of her innocent whereabouts.

Would you presume she was cheating without more evidence?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 10:56 AM
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Flawed and not so apt.

The fact that she is aware of the terms of the agreement and yet broke it anyway, is in itself a violation. She knew, beforehand, the potential implications.

Whether you choose to give the violation a pass, is up to you, but the violation STILL took place and the agreement WAS broken thus placing the trust that was bestowed upon you, in question.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 14, 18 12:17 PM
But you don't assume she cheated, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 12:18 PM
In my example yes. In your example, it's a patent and blatant disregard for the agreement to which she (and those that were party to the "unintended" lapse) knew full well the perception of cheating must be avoided at all costs since it can be just as damaging. She either didn't care, or she was cheating.

Since she didn't come clean with the lapse in whereabouts, it was someone else who told you as the husband, makes it all the more damning especially with other instance of the unexplained. ...more
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 14, 18 1:03 PM
"Didn't come clean" would imply that she was aware there was anything to come clean about.

In the real world, did the foundation know of the lapse before it was brought to their attention?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 1:53 PM
HELLO....they had an agreement....

Yes, the foundation did know. It was MADE to the foundation.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 14, 18 7:23 PM
By all accounts, the error was inadvertent.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 7:26 PM
Oopsie. Yes, keeping track of donations from 7 foreign countries is tough work for a Democrat. To HELL with the eithical rules! One can only wonder what transpired in the five years between the donation and it being uncovered.

Ain't it interesting how "donations" at the Clinton Foundation have dried up.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 15, 18 8:01 AM
One can only wonder because one has no evidence of corrupt intent.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 15, 18 8:08 AM
But we do have evidence of violations on multiple fronts and the willful act of destroying evidence.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 15, 18 9:44 AM
Evidence of what?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 16, 18 6:12 AM
destruction of email, violation of the espionage act, unsecured servers, lack of safeguards on classified information, violating state department policy, violating memorandum of understanding...

Oopsie, nothing to see here... move along.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 17, 18 2:48 PM
Destruction of personal emails, not official state business. Prove otherwise.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 6:38 AM
Well, ain't that convenient.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 7:51 AM
The legal standard of innocent until proven guilty? Yes, very convenient I'd say.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 8:11 AM
Innocent and guilty are legal terms and don't necessarily apply to ethical or issues of wrong doing.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 9:03 AM
Lol, didn't you allege violation of the espionage act? Isn't that a crime?

Subject to all of the protections conveyed by the 5th amendment including the presumption of innocence and the right to not bear testimony against oneself?

Ok then.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 9:14 AM
it certainly is. Did Hillary go to trial when I wasn't looking?
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 11:45 AM
Oooh, so you think she's ethically guilty of violating the espionage act, but not criminally guilty?

Got it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 11:49 AM
I only know what is and what isn't. One day Hillary was recommended to be charged in violation of the espionage act... and the next day...POOOOF, she wasn't and those who waved the magic wand have need found to be biased and posses questionable integrity.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 7:59 AM
Can you please specify who recommended charges and when?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 8:11 AM
Edit that to reflect - possible legal implications.

It was FBI Director Peter Strzok, who we've learned vowed to "stop it" (Trump becoming President) and who led the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server AND the Russia collusion investigation who changed Comey's earlier draft language describing Clinton's actions as "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless."
Jun 19, 18 8:36 AM appended by Po Boy
PAGE: “[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” STRZOK: “No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it.” Why was this text not turned over to the OIG by the FBI??????
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 8:36 AM
Oh, so you're referring to an internal work-in-progress?

That's like you or me recommending charges: not worth the paper it's written on.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 8:44 AM
No, I'm talking about what actually transpired.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 9:10 AM
So who recommended charges?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 9:29 AM
So who recommended charges?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 9:29 AM
Are you just being obtuse intentionally by ignoring the edit?
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 11:56 AM
Oooooh, so it wasn't a recommendation to charge, but the "possible legal implications" of a term ("grossly negligent") that wasn't part of the official findings. Got it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 12:01 PM
PAGE: “[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right?
Right?!”

STRZOK: “No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it.”
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 12:43 PM
So which decision was a violation of discretion? None? Alright then.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 12:54 PM
Violation of the espionage act, is discretionary? LMAO!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 2:31 PM
What violation?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 2:47 PM

@ Fore: Notice you didn't challenge any of the assertions in Po Boy's post of June 19, 8:36AM. Did you fact check? Just for starters, he "promoted" FBI agent Peter Strzok to Director of the agency.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 19, 18 2:54 PM
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That's funny. I didn't bother because I didn't think it was necessary, but I'm also not surprised.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 3:05 PM
Gee, you got me June, payback for your Kelly faux pas no doubt. So many DC leaders in the FBI who have violated public trust, so much to keep up with. Strzok was Chief... it was McCabe who was a a Deputy Director. You cracked the case. Congrats.

While you two play amongst the weeds, I'm not surprised but utterly disgusted by the blatant disregard either of you have for misconduct at the highest levels of government.

Jun 19, 18 7:57 PM appended by Po Boy
Well well. My memory is better than I thought. Seems your boy Strzok, did in fact rise to the rank of Deputy Assistant DIRECTOR. LOL.....you're not surprised?
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 7:57 PM
"Disregard for misconduct at the highest levels of government"?
If only "disgust" was the most aptly descriptive word.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 19, 18 8:31 PM
Good bit of investigation. Now we should start going over the presidents emoluments violations. When I have an extra 300 hrs I’ll start.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 8, 18 7:59 AM
He's violated the Emoluments Clause in full view, and the investigation of his foundation has been found to be full of violations.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 8, 18 11:27 AM
Crooked Trump
By johnj (815), Westhampton on Jun 8, 18 10:51 AM
Good luck. One judge already dismissed a pair of failed law suits.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 8, 18 11:46 AM
Which one? His sister?
Jun 8, 18 12:15 PM appended by June Bug
Reference is to which judge.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 8, 18 12:15 PM
Oh, sorry, forgot who I was dealing with...

No, that thing we're talking about.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 8, 18 12:33 PM
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Now the dotard is talking about pardoning Muhammed Ali. Opens his piehole either disregarding the fact or ignorant of the fact that Ali's conviction was unanimously overturned by the SC in 1971, and that President Carter gave a blanket pardon to all Vietnam draft evaders. This on top of the blatant contradiction of having mercy on a draft evader but condemning silent protesters. Total jackassery.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 8, 18 12:54 PM
"Among the many ways that Anthony Bourdain made a difference: the spotlight he put on unexploded ordnance in Laos got the Obama Administration's attention and helped secure $90 million in funding to help clean up those bombs."
Saw Bourdain 3 times in the Southampton CVS. Once with his daughter in the toy aisle. Beyond sad for her and Kate Spade's little girl to lose a parent, and in such an awful way. Geniuses and creatives killing themselves. Fools and devils as heads of state. ...more
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 8, 18 1:02 PM
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Poll: 71% Percent of Voters Say Economy Has Improved Under Trump
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Nearly three-quarters of voters say that the U.S. economy has improved under President Donald Trump, according to a survey by the Wall Street Journal and NBC News.
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 8, 18 8:25 PM
That blue wave is going down the toilet. 71% say they love the booming TRUMP economy and the other 29% are LIARS!
RED WAVE coming in November.The 29% are employees of CNN, NPR, MSNBC, NYT, June Bug, Samantha Bee and Fred
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 8, 18 8:29 PM
Sad for their children too. Not sad for either of them though. Selfish cowards. Both of them. No tears here. In a year or so, nobody will remember or care to remember them. Like my late Marine father-in-law said to me long ago....NOBODY CARES. He was right....
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 8, 18 2:46 PM
You seem nice, Disease. What the world could use is more like you.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 8, 18 5:49 PM
@Disease: I suppose we can conclude you feel the same way about the 22 vets who commit suicide every day. Now there are some "selfish cowards"!
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 8, 18 9:16 PM
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This from the right wing crying we have a mental illness problem, not a gun problem. They both suffered from mental illness. If you can’t find any sympathy for them, it’s your lose. Keep up your “tough “ guy persona . I find it pathetic and demeaning.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 8, 18 4:45 PM
Fred at least you have 2 members in the crying room with you.
By pw herman (971), southampton on Jun 8, 18 6:46 PM
I do have sympathy for the mentally ill. My job requires me to not only have sympathy for the mentally ill...but to go 10 steps further to find them the help they need. I have done it a million times and will continue to do so until I retire. I just completed a week long Crisis Intervention Training that dealt strictly with the emotionally disturbed. We met with professionals in that field and even listened to 2 diagnosed but functional schizophrenics tell us their life stories. I'm doing something ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 8, 18 9:23 PM
If you could afford to disappear, would you?
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 8, 18 10:15 PM
Absolutely!!

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 9, 18 12:44 PM

So those who commit suicide aren't mentally ill, just "despicable"?
"Smart and pragmatic"? No, we're going with dumb and schizophrenic. And totally ill-suited to be anywhere near the emotionally disturbed.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 9, 18 1:10 PM
The answer is still NO Fred you can not take away our 2nd amendment rights and leave us defenseless against tyranny and all enemy's of the constitution both foreign and domestic.
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 10, 18 10:12 AM
Going out on a limb and assuming someone with the word "Diocese" in their moniker has heard of the God of mercy who does not condemn the ill and looks upon those who suffer with infinite compassion. Apparently a foreign concept to you.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 10, 18 5:29 PM
Thanks pw, coming from you it means a lot .
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 8, 18 8:18 PM
Iran Admits To Facilitating 9/11 Terror Attacks
Top Iranian official admits for first time Iran aided al Qaeda terrorists.

Iranian officials, in a first, have admitted to facilitating the 9/11 terrorist attacks in the U.S. by secretly aiding the free travel of al Qaeda operatives who eventually went on to fly commercial airliners into the Twin Towers in New York City, according to new remarks from a senior Iranian official.

Mohammad-Javad Larijani, an international affairs ...more
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 8, 18 8:22 PM
Let’s go ahead and believe what Iran has to say!!!!!!
By Sturgis (378), Southampton on Jun 9, 18 1:34 PM
Diseased, your neither smart nor pragmatic.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 8, 18 10:48 PM
Yup...and you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. I post twice a day, not 18. What will YOU do for the mentally ill? Nothing. So next time you type about it, think of me doing something about it.
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 9, 18 12:32 AM
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The only place you can find a story about the Iranian is in the Washington free beacon . That’s enough to be suspect of the story .
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 9, 18 2:00 PM
So, you're saying Mohammad-Javad Larijani, an international affairs assistant in the Iran's judiciary, didn't make the statement on state-controlled TV, claiming Iran didn't stamp their passports?

Well, alrighty.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 9, 18 3:01 PM
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I’m saying it’s a stretch.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 9, 18 3:12 PM
I’m saying it’s a stretch.
By Fred s (180), Southampton on Jun 9, 18 3:12 PM
No he said it.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 9, 18 10:09 PM
He is just upset that someone reported it.
By joe hampton (3109), The Hamptons on Jun 10, 18 10:47 AM
Fred, why don't you want to believe that a country run be these despicable Mullahs could be complicate in 9 11? Fred do you hate America ?
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 10, 18 10:08 AM
TRUMP APPROVAL RATING Better than Obama and Reagan at Same Point in their Presidencies , according to the latest FOX News poll President Donald Trump has a better rating than Presidents Obama and Reagan at the same point in their presidencies.

President Trump’s approval is now at 45%.
And that is with 90% negative coverage from the far left mainstream media.
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 10, 18 10:36 AM
George Soros has blasted Trump's presidency saying 'everything that could go wrong has gone wrong... That is music to my ears.

Keep America Great President Trump You are doing an amazing job each and every day !
By joe hampton (3109), The Hamptons on Jun 10, 18 11:00 AM
Translation:
Pres Trump is destroying the NWO.
Sorros says Trump s HUGE threat.

The problem with the NWO is that no one has asked us if we want a global government. Or have our nation destroyed. We have had no say in that decision

Support this president with everything you've got.
By Undocumented Democrat (1671), southampton on Jun 10, 18 11:09 AM
Ever think of forming your own country where you can freely build your walls, demonize and mistreat the "other", cage children, strip away health care, betray your children's future, hate on everyone until you're left eating your own tail?
And that "global government" you "don't want"? Haven't you figured out who the premier globalist is? It's your idol, the one who built everything with Chinese steel, Chinese concrete, and immigrant workers? Wake up,why don't you? Furthermore, ...more
Jun 10, 18 12:05 PM appended by June Bug
Abby Huntsman, daughter of our ambassador to Russia, referred to the NK summit as a meeting between "two dictators" on Fox &Friends this AM. Uh huh.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 10, 18 12:05 PM
1776
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 10, 18 11:14 PM
Obama used the black community (and, many whites duped into thinking their vote shows how "unracist" they are) as useful idiots to undermine the country through saturating it with foreign, toxic ideologies and blocking policies to ensure they continued to grow unchecked. This election stopped a flood.
By Undocumented Democrat (1671), southampton on Jun 10, 18 10:41 AM
Even the Chief of Staff's hair is on fire:
"Whoa. This is sliding toward what we have all feared: Kim flatters Trump; no one’s around to warn Trump; T gives something important away, because he doesn’t understand the issues, bc he didn’t prepare and couldn’t care less about the US architecture in Asia. This is a bad idea."
Who needs to prepare when all you want is a trump hotel in Pyongyang? When all you need is to have something wonderful in mind to give ...more
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 10, 18 12:52 PM
And this from trump-appointed Director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats speaking in France the other day: “The Russians are actively seeking to divide our Alliance, and we must not allow that to happen.”
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 10, 18 1:03 PM
Robert E Kelly isn't the Chief of Staff. The Chief of Staff is JOHN F KELLY...

Good Lord....
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 10, 18 1:04 PM
Trump Derangement Syndrome is getting the better of you.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 10, 18 1:05 PM
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Good Lord is right. Face red; big faux pas.
The sentiments expressed come with credentials, however, and are widely and legitimately held. It's never America First with your Jesus King. Only always trump First, and the whole world knows exactly how to play him.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 10, 18 1:13 PM
Tear down all the statues of Julius Caesar and replace them with statues of President Donald Trump.
By pw herman (971), southampton on Jun 10, 18 2:16 PM
@Po Boy: "Several high-profile aides, including John F. Kelly, the president’s chief of staff, and Joe Hagin, a deputy of Mr. Kelly’s, are said to be thinking about how much longer they can stay. Last week, Mr. Kelly told visiting senators that the White House was “a miserable place to work,” according to a person with direct knowledge of the comment."
No fan of Kelly, but what does it say when someone on the same page ideologically with trump can't stand ...more
Jun 10, 18 2:54 PM appended by June Bug
Forgot: the quote source is msn.com.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 10, 18 2:54 PM
Why is that addressed to me, exactly?
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 10, 18 3:23 PM
B/c it's about your friend, John F. Kelly.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 10, 18 3:36 PM
I see. More accurately, it's about your friend, the unnamed source.."according to a person with direct knowledge of the comment."

Fake news, and you lap it up.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 10, 18 4:06 PM
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The smart money knows to "lap up" anything the cultists identify as "fake news". It is to laugh.
Thank God for the leakers.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 10, 18 5:02 PM
Can you substantiate ANY of the content from the unnamed source?
Jun 10, 18 6:58 PM appended by Po Boy
One of those leakers you hold in high regard was just indicted and charged by the FBI. You must be very proud, June!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 10, 18 6:58 PM
Comment was reported by many major outlets. Read Michael Wolf's book and see that leaking is de rigeur in the WH. Leakers who have worked there under other administrations, who hate their jobs now, and have cozy relationships with the WH press corps. Furthermore, Kelly already called trump an idiot. Trust me, you can take all this to the bank. Over and over it's said that Republicans who (reprehensibly--and, for that matter, Dems as well_won't stand up in public have nothing but contempt ...more
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 12, 18 1:22 PM
"Trust me, you can take all this to the bank."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

If it "was reported by many major news outlets," it's because they're all reporting the same FAKE NEWS quoted by the same unnamed source. It's why the media is corrupt!

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 6:15 PM
Remember, folks: fake news means negative news.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 6:19 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Fake quote!

Trump Derangement Syndrome is so sad it even lies about fake news.
Jun 12, 18 6:25 PM appended by Po Boy
The challenge for you to provide fake positive news REMAINS!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 6:25 PM
What quote?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 6:35 PM
Your quote.

It's a fake quote perpetuating fake news.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 6:45 PM
I didn't use any quote.

"91% of the Network News about me is negative (Fake)"-Trump

Now I used a quote.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 7:13 PM
Yup, and you know full well he's referencing a study stating 91% of the Network News about him is negative.

Again, are you saying the other 9% is positive fake news? If you're not, then it's BS to attribute the 91% to fake news. Therein....THE FAKE NEWS!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 7:57 PM
Right, he is equating negative to fake.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 9:06 PM
Wrong, he's not equating 9% to real.

he's pointing out the finding that 91% reported by the mainstream media is simple negative.

"(Fake)" is an after thought, meaning, much of it is simply fake.

This is simply FAKE NEWS.



By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 9:26 PM
I think you're wrong (lying).
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 11:10 PM
I think you're lying (wrong).
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 13, 18 7:40 AM
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Now you're getting how parentheticals work!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 13, 18 7:58 AM
Now if only you'd get how Fake News works!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 13, 18 8:29 AM
I get that Trump thinks negative news means fake news.
Jun 13, 18 8:32 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Let me rephrase. He doesn't actually believe that, he just acts as if he does so his supporters follow suit.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 13, 18 8:32 AM
The only think worse than lying to others, is lying to yourself.

But I would suggest, much of the 91% negative news coverage by the corrupt media actually IS Fake News. We for certainly know the 9% that is purportedly reported by the corrupt media as positive, certainly is NOT Fake News.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 13, 18 8:45 AM
Whatever you say, Po. Even if you disagree, you're capable of understanding my reasoning (logic) behind reading that parenthetical in that certain way.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 13, 18 8:51 AM
I don't think the way you read it is based in reasoning and logic, at all. That much, I understand.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 14, 18 9:36 AM
You also seem to understand how my own use of the parenthetical in the prior post equated reasoning with logic.

Marvelous!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 9:59 AM
Still waiting for an example of the 9% of positive Fake News.

THAT would be marvelous!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 14, 18 10:41 AM
Set up straw men all you like, I'd rather gawk than knock them down.
Jun 14, 18 10:51 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
But please, continue to distract from the clear implication of the parenthetical.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 10:51 AM
If it was clear, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

If it were clear, you'd provide an example of positive Fake News the media ran toward the President.

CLearly, not clear.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 14, 18 12:09 PM
I think it's pretty clear (apparent). I also think you're being dishonest (lying) about not understanding it.

Trump said 91% of the news about him is negative (fake).

The other 9% is irrelevant.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 12:18 PM
Far FAR from irrelevant. IF you could provide an example, it would potentially validate the 91% claim as you've portrayed it. But, you can't.

Here allow me to fill in between the lines: 91% (identified in a study reported by mainstream media) is negative (this is an example of the Fake News I've been telling you about).

Calling it a reference that all negative news is Fake News is simply creating, Fake News.



Jun 14, 18 1:10 PM appended by Po Boy
....to validate the Fake News.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 14, 18 1:10 PM
I'm not really interested in validating your view (opinion) of how POTUS' parenthetical works, readers can make up their own minds.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 1:49 PM
You just might have lost a debate if....

...you tell the readers that they can make up their own minds.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 14, 18 7:19 PM
What a weird (strange) comment. I think most folks, including you, understand (know) how parentheticals work.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 7:29 PM
That's both Fake and negative news. We understand how that works...fo sho.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 15, 18 7:50 AM
Right, just like Trump says 91% of news about him is negative (fake).
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 15, 18 8:09 AM
If you question the premise 91% of news about him is negative (fake) then you must question the premise 9% of news about him is positive (fake).

Please prove your point.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 15, 18 9:41 AM
No, I musn't.
Jun 15, 18 10:31 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Even if you disagree, you're smart (intelligent) enough to follow (understand) my point.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 15, 18 10:31 AM
You mean, you can't.

It's easier to make baseless allegations from a tweet that allows 140-280 characters.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 15, 18 3:12 PM
Nevertheless, readers can understand why in Trump's comment negative and fake both apply to the 91% number, implying they're one and the same.

But please, keep arguing against how parentheticals work.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 16, 18 11:38 AM
Well, prove it ain't so!?!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 17, 18 2:43 PM
Prove (demonstrate) what?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 7:29 AM
The quote you keep parroting.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 7:49 AM
Trump's quote that 91% of news about him is negative and fake?

I'm not presenting it as evidence that its content is true, just as evidence Trump uses negative and fake interchangeably in that sentence, implying they're one and the same.

For evidence (proof) of that I'd refer you to your nearest grammar guide (book).
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 8:10 AM
Glad we can agree the President's quote just might be accurate.
Jun 18, 18 9:00 AM appended by Po Boy
That is, assuming your take on it is accurate, but, I disagree that it is.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 9:00 AM
Lol, careful! You almost tripped up there.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 9:15 AM
I've never been tripped up on opinion yet. Your mileage may vary.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 11:43 AM
Regardless (irrespective) of whether the president's assertion (statement) was correct, a reading (understanding) of that parenthetical remains the same (unchanged).

He equivocated negative and false. Ask your 6th grade English teacher.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 11:47 AM
The reasonable will give him a pass knowing he had limited text characters...and also see the manufactured Fake News for what it is, If he were writing a dissertation, I could see your point. The hate typical of TDS just gets the better of some.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 7:27 PM
So the reasonable are those who agree with Trump's assertion that all negative news is fake news?

OK then.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 7:16 AM
The reasonable are those who take the tweet with a grain of salt knowing the corrupt media has spun it and the President is quoting another story (91% negative coverage by media) using it to illustrate what he has been saying since day one (fake) and see it as nothing more than the latest attack on him.

Same s**t different day.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 7:42 AM
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At least we agree one should take Trump's words with a grain of salt.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 8:01 AM
The only thing we can agree on is every single time you use "At least we agree," we haven't agreed.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 8:27 AM
Hilarious. You're the one that said we shouldn't take him at his word, I'm just agreeing with you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 8:30 AM
Very sad actually, I never said that. I've been very clear that the framework of a tweet is rather limiting and THIS combined with the media spin is what is to be taken with a grain of salt.

YOU say "we shouldn't take him at his word." I disagree.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 9:14 AM
You said we should "take the tweet with a grain of salt." I'm saying we should take everything POTUS says with a grain of salt. He's a liar.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 9:29 AM
You see, that's the problem. The moving evolution of information isn't considered in your reaction; just a snapshot in time. It's like having a discussion with a golden retriever.

If being a liar is your standard for taking things with a grain of salt, then I submit 3009 posts as evidence I should do the same.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 11:53 AM
So it's just THIS tweet that should be taken with a grain of salt, or all others you find convenient?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 12:00 PM
I find the limitation of tweet characters decidedly inconvenient.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 12:41 PM
So all of Trump's tweets shouldn't be believed, thanks for the confirmation.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 12:55 PM
No, all you posts shouldn't be believed.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 2:28 PM
Thanks for the response, though I wish it'd been better,
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 2:48 PM
Case in point.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 7:46 PM
Does anyone else here think that Perry Gershon would've been great as a circus master for Ringling Brothers? I mean, how on Earth did this clown get to the point of actually being able to run for congress? Have you seen his commercials? One is more cringeworthy than the next. This is all I had to read from this former bar owners website: "You stop a bad guy by taking the assault rifle out of his hands, not by flooding schools with more guns.". Good luck winning on that in Suffolk County. Lmao. I ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 10, 18 10:34 PM
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President Trump...........
You are exceeding my every hope I ever had for your success.
Carry on! .......... and remember: We voted mostly to stop the Invasion. I applaud you for keeping your promises to the voters.
By Ditch Bum (478), Water Mill on Jun 10, 18 11:22 PM
Mexico will pay for the wall, one hundred percent. Didn't he promise that? You support a lying, traitorous, commie loving child.
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on Jun 11, 18 5:47 AM
TDS is truly a devastating mental illness. Once it gets a grip, the descent into madness comes quickly
By joe hampton (3109), The Hamptons on Jun 11, 18 7:41 AM
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what an articulate comment Mets
By bigfresh (3501), north sea on Jun 11, 18 6:14 AM
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Thanks, I only speak the truth and the obvious
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on Jun 12, 18 5:51 AM
Trump!!!!! Good luck on making the WORLD great again!!!
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 11, 18 8:01 PM
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Historic evening for sure.

Trust but verify Mr. President
By joe hampton (3109), The Hamptons on Jun 11, 18 9:43 PM
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Trump the peace maker! The peaceful, tolerant left is against peace now because they have TDS. The left is also against having a good economy now too. I'm already waiting to see how the Bug is going to try and credit Obama for this. We all know it's coming.
Jun 11, 18 9:48 PM appended by Ditch Bum
CNN is freaking out. They are trying to dump cold water on this and drowning in their own heads.
By Ditch Bum (478), Water Mill on Jun 11, 18 9:48 PM
Tonight on CNN, Dennis Rodman, as emotional as he was.... said some damning stuff about Obama in regards to NOKU. He said he tried to bridge the gap between the 2 countries with Obama, and Obama brushed him to the side and treated him like he was not worthy of even commenting on the situation. He looked very emotional when he said it and tears started streaming down his face when he continued and said that it was Trump that obliged and got this thing going with Kim Jong Un. He was wearing a MAGA ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 11, 18 10:49 PM
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Remember the Iran deal? Documentation and verification?

This framework is the same thing, except it requires us to stop conducting military exercises with an ally in the region.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 6:43 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 12, 18 9:10 AM
Sure, best of luck, just don't give away the farm for a photo-op.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 9:14 AM
Like i said .....
Jun 12, 18 9:20 AM appended by They call me
There was nothing in that comment that i can find that was worty of red ink. trust and verify ... I'm sure that President Trump will do just that ...
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 12, 18 9:20 AM
Well hopefully there's not someone at the press in charge of moderating that hates this President more than they love their country. I see a lot on the television the last 48 hours from the bitter hateful comments made by Robert De Niro to the coverage of this historic Summit by our president on CNN and MSNBC, who seems to be rooting for failure more than they are the denuclearization of a major component of the axis of Evil. It sad to watch. At least the usual American hating crew that gathers ...more
By widow gavits (183), sag harbor on Jun 12, 18 10:24 AM
What's good for America is bad for today's Democrat Party.
By bigfresh (3501), north sea on Jun 12, 18 6:17 AM
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Is withdrawing our troops from SK good for America?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 2:02 PM
Is that YOUR plan ?
Please don't elaborate.
By pw herman (971), southampton on Jun 12, 18 2:09 PM
I'll elaborate anyway.

We just traded the end of joint exercises (to the surprise of SK) for just talks. What will we trade for NK giving up WMDs?

China's already thrilled; their Foreign Ministry announced the concessions on joint exercises before Trump did.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 2:32 PM
Oh my God first you said he was a warmongerl and now you're complaining because the president has brokered a deal for peace? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound on the left
By widow gavits (183), sag harbor on Jun 12, 18 4:38 PM
Who said he was a warmonger?
Jun 12, 18 4:40 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I did you the favor of a quick search through my comments...wasn't me!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 4:40 PM
It's ridiculous. Don't even listen to the libs here. Obviously, they're all reaching. Fore1gnBorn sounds like he copy and pasted something right off of CNN's website, and like I predicted before...CRICKETS from the rest of them. Disgrace.
Trump could cure world hunger and the libs would still call for his head because of Stormy Daniels. He could end all terrorism world wide by ISIS and Al Qaeda and the libs would call him Islamophobic. He could have Putin denuclearize Russia and they would ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 12, 18 5:32 PM
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Thanks for thinking I could write for a cable news network.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 12, 18 7:17 PM
Verbatim.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 8:15 PM
Just another desperate move by your reality show drama queen. He needed something fantastic before the mid-terms. He knows if he loses the house, his presidency is effectively over. He can't get the most important issues of today that he promised, done with a majority in Congress. No wall funding, no great health insurance plan, no balancing the budget or cutting the deficit. Russia owns Syria, while being able to reinstate the barbaric Assad, Russia's puppet. With that being said, it is a great ...more
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on Jun 12, 18 8:18 PM
But Mets, the widow gavits is going to be really bummed to hear this. She's under the impression Commander Shortfingers brokered a peace deal.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 12, 18 8:32 PM
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Bernie Sanders
@SenSanders

rump and Kim Jong Un's meeting is a positive step in de-escalating tensions and addressing the threat of North Korea’s nuclear weapons. Congress has a key role to play in making sure this is a meaningful process, not just a series of photo ops.
By local 84 (321), riverhead on Jun 12, 18 11:41 PM
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Hey, dopes on the ropes. Back in April North Korea's intentions were clear:

“As the weaponisation of nuclear weapons has been verified, it is not necessary for us to conduct any more nuclear tests or test launches of mid- and long-range missiles or ICBMs. The northern nuclear test site has completed its mission."

~ Kim Jong Un

You nitwits are too dumb to realize Trump is just a ride-a-long.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 12, 18 9:34 PM
You must be very happy.

Congratulations!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 9:39 PM
Yeah, just can't handle all this "winning".

U.S. Inflation Accelerates to Six-Year High, Eroding Wages

By Katia Dmitrieva
June 12, 2018, 8:30 AM EDT Updated on June 12, 2018, 9:06 AM EDT
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 12, 18 10:12 PM
More like whining. Yours. What exactly does the President have to do with inflation?

Nothing. It was driven by gas prices and rent increases.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 10:46 PM
DAMN.....

That shut cut and paste up in a hurry. Talk about being ***** slapped.
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 15, 18 12:16 AM
Gas prices are at crazy levels--fire Obama!

7:14 AM - 22 Oct 2012

~ Donald J. Trump
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 15, 18 7:12 AM
Carry that water!

The Energy 202: Democrats ding Trump on gas prices, just as Trump once did to Obama
By Dino Grandoni May 24. WAPO

Did you see the President's tweet to OPEC today? Maybe the President CAN influence gas prices. Go Trump Go!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 15, 18 7:47 AM
Hey...all I can I say is thank God Hillary isn't president. Not only would there not have been a NOKU summit, but she wouldn't have made it out of the car and onto the photo-op without falling on her face, let alone attend a meeting. Boy, do I hate that witch.
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 12, 18 10:44 PM
"Obama could have done this 5 years ago ... but he was too busy grabbing his ankles and bending over for Iran " - Dennis Roddmann 6/12/18
By Ditch Bum (478), Water Mill on Jun 12, 18 11:58 PM
Dennis Rodman and Kanye West, exemplary intellectuals, Republican heroes.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 13, 18 8:34 AM
Fore, please tell us how you feel about Bill Maher, Chelsea Handler, Robert De Niro, Kathy Griffin, Samantha Bee, Alec Baldwin, Chris Rock, Madonna, John Oliver, Ashley Judd, Shia LaBeouf, Joy Behar, Stephen Colbert, Rob Reiner, Whoopi Goldberg, Rosie O'donnell, Jay Z ?
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 13, 18 8:49 AM
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I don't know them, didn't vote for them, and don't keep up with their politics.

Most importantly, I don't hold up celebrity opinions as proof that I'm right.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 13, 18 8:54 AM
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Bill Maher Hopes for ‘Crashing Economy’ to Get Rid of Trump ‘Bring on the Recession’

8 Jun 2018
Friday on HBO’s “Real Time,” host Bill Maher admitted he was hoping for the American economy to falter because he said that was the one way to “get rid” of President Donald Trump. Finally! One of THEM actually said it out loud. We all know that's how they feel about America. They would rather have the country fail completely and be thrown ...more
Jun 13, 18 8:59 AM appended by 27dan
This is exactly how Marxists/Socialists operate. They will sabotage the economy in order to take it over. Just like they have tried to do with our healthcare system. This is not the behavior of rational or honest thinking people. It is the behavior extremists that will burn everything to the ground in order to attempt to rebuild it in their imagined socialist utopia, This is a cult like belief and you cannot reason with them or convert them or get them to like you. If you don't believe as they do they think you are evil and believe any means to stop you is justified. We are seeing that play out all across our country in many ways right now. From the suppression of free speech on college campuses and social networks, to the attempted overthrow of a duly elected President. You cannot bend with them or compromise with them in the belief that if you give them some of what they want to take they will like you and make peace with you. Their intention is to take it all. The only thing you can do is defeat them and keep their radical intentions at bay. Whether it is a national issue or the local school board. Eternal vigilance is required to keep your country. Stand strong or lose it all.
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 13, 18 8:59 AM
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Most importantly, I don't hold up celebrity opinions as proof that I'm right.
Jun 13, 18 9:04 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
At first I thought that was a copy/paste but those are actually your original thoughts and beliefs...I honestly feel sympathy for you, dan.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 13, 18 9:04 AM
how strange that you claim to not "keep up with there politics" yet seem to have such deep insight into dennis rodman and kanye west ?

i'm curious what makes them so special that you folow them and not the others that dan listed ?
By Erin 27 E (1031), hampton bays on Jun 13, 18 9:10 AM
Frankly, the conservative commotion around them piqued my curiosity, but in general terms, I'm as plugged into popular media as anyone else.

That I heard about Dennis Rodman bringing basketball to North Korea or Kanye West declaring slavery was a choice does not mean I keep up with their politics.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 13, 18 9:23 AM
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@Ditch Bum: It's the likes of moronic whack jobs like Dennis Rodman you're now quoting? Dear god.
NK didn't have the long-range nuke capability it now has while Obama was in office, so why would he have "done this"? And imagine the howling if he had. No modern president before the incompetent we're saddled with would consider granting a murderous dictator running a literal gulag the status KJU gained this week. Or flatter him. Or be snookered by a tyrant playing a long (and ...more
Jun 13, 18 11:44 AM appended by June Bug
Last week we learned that trump and Putin speak regularly on the phone. Here's an excerpt from a January 18th WSJ article: "Around the same time, trump had an idea how to counter the nuclear threat posed by NK which he got after speaking to Russian President Vladimir Putin: If the US stopped joint military exercises with the South Koreans, it could help moderate KJU's behavior." (by Nicholas & Ballhaus). There you have it, suckers. Your president is acting on the advice of and doing the bidding of our adversary.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 13, 18 11:44 AM
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By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 13, 18 5:16 PM
Anyone hearing Maher 2 weeks ago knows he was using hyperbole to express his total disdain for trump and trumpism, and in no way meaning to be taken literally.
Jun 13, 18 8:14 PM appended by June Bug
I can propagandize too. Y'all would sooner have nukes hit America than have Obama resolve the Iran issue.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 13, 18 8:14 PM
How many missile sites are in North Korea? Why don't we already know the answer to that. That's a real rock your quoting. Solid individual. Maybe Drumpf can also dig up Gary Busey to be part of his really great people who surround him. Remember when Fox News and Hannity blasted Obama for any mention of actually meeting with Kim. What a bunch of hypocrites! It really took a lot for NK to release those three innocent people( according to us), it would be like you giving back money after you stole ...more
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on Jun 13, 18 5:55 AM
LOL, KOREA GOT YOU DOWN METS?
--OR is it President Trump's amazing job creation numbers on behalf of the middle class, Blacks and Latinos?
(what a mess lib heads exploding all over the net . . .)
By Ditch Bum (478), Water Mill on Jun 13, 18 10:13 AM
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Commander Shortfingers claims that parents of Korean War veterans would come up to him during the 2016 campaign and say, "when you can, we'd love our son to be brought back home -- you know, the remains."…
To be the parent of a Korean War vet, you'd have to have been born around 1915, making you 101 in 2016 (figuring you became a parent at 18 years old and your son was drafted at 18.) So, apparently there were numerous 101-year-olds approaching trump at rallies. Geez, ...more
Jun 14, 18 9:05 PM appended by June Bug
This is like the time Trump said he lost "hundreds" of friends on 9/11. Zero. He lost zero friends on 9/11. He attended zero 9/11 funerals. Zero parents of fallen Korean War soldiers have spoken to Trump. Zero.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 13, 18 9:05 PM
Where were you when Obama had seventy five straight months of job growth. The unemployment rate went from 10% to 4.7%. Didn't hear a word out of your traitor mouth then, did we? Korea doesn't get me down, it was a photo-op for a desperate ignoramous. Remember everything turns to crap in the end with Drumpf, just ask Melania.
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on Jun 14, 18 8:15 PM
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By summertimegal (83), southampton on Jun 15, 18 11:54 AM

Democrats lost 1049 during Obama’s 8 yrs

In 18 mos they have won 45

At that rate, they will be at pre obama levels in anout 30 years.

That’s not a blue wave
By even flow (657), East Hampton on Jun 13, 18 6:24 AM

Democrats lost 1049 seats during Obama’s 8 yrs

In 18 mos they have won 45

At that rate, they will be at pre obama levels in anout 30 years.

That’s not a blue wave
By even flow (657), East Hampton on Jun 13, 18 6:24 AM
Remember that guy high hat size ?
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 13, 18 7:27 AM
lol , I think i saw him kicking a can down the road mumbling to himself the other day.
By Ditch Bum (478), Water Mill on Jun 13, 18 7:36 AM
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They probably took away his internet access in the slammer, not being a model prisoner has consequences doesn't it Jay?
By bigfresh (3501), north sea on Jun 13, 18 5:36 PM
Ah so, same day the DOJ IG kills off trump's loony conspiracy theories re: the election, the NYAG reveals a real scandal by suing the trump Foundation and trump himself for "extensive unlawful political coordination and repeated and willful self-dealing."
Sounds like somebody has tax returns.....
Happy Birthday, Mr. President!
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 14, 18 11:28 AM
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So Commander Shortfingers personally directed his foundation funds to be used to settle a lawsuit related to Mar A Lago. Always known he was a petty grifter who conned donors into pumping money into a fund he used as a personal piggy bank. Now there are receipts. Like, actual receipts. Lock him up.
Jun 14, 18 2:05 PM appended by June Bug
The smallest gift the trump Foundation dispersed was $7 to the Boy Scouts in 1989 when the registration fee was $7 and Don. Jr. was 11. The largest gift of $264,631 covered a fountain renovation outside trump's Plaza Hotel that enhanced the view.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 14, 18 2:05 PM
They don't care, June.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 2:09 PM
Ah, but the AG does.


By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 14, 18 2:21 PM
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Luckily, just as they don't care about the AG's opinion, justice doesn't care about theirs.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 2:34 PM
And just the beginning of an avalanche....
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 14, 18 3:20 PM
I also believe chickens are coming home to roost, but let's hold off on the victory lap for now.

In the meantime...go Mueller go!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 3:31 PM
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It's cute you two having a conversation and liking each others comments.

“One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity, there ain't nothing can beat teamwork.” —Mark Twain

Good job Team!!
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 15, 18 11:07 AM
Good Job!!

Totally spurious quotation from the man who calls others dolts. Your quote is from Edward Abbey.

Classic right wing style.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 15, 18 3:57 PM
YAY! the little yellow team bus is here!

Associated Press
Author Mark Twain, born Samuel Clemens, in an undated photo. Twain was known for his ability to deliver an insult, often aimed at humanity in general. Among them: "One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity there ain't nothing can beat teamwork."

LA Times.

Abbey is quoted as writing this in "The Monkey Wrench Gang" 1975, on page 313.

“Well now, honey, if Love ...more
Jun 16, 18 11:37 AM appended by Bayman3142
Twain's advice is golden with this lightning bug. Guess I'll never learn.....
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 16, 18 11:37 AM
Crickets.

Typical left wing posturing, the ostrich.
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 17, 18 7:14 PM
Nah, just don't come around here that often. Time for ants, not crickets.

Nice to know petulance is still a standard "right wing" trait. Most well exemplified by the juvenile tweeter in chief.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 18, 18 7:54 PM
^^^^

Says the mythomaniac with 10,153 posts. Nice to see perjury is still a cornerstone of the "left"
By Bayman3142 (147), Southampton on Jun 19, 18 8:37 AM
IG has concluded bias did NOT affect Clinton email investigation, that FBI had PROPER reasons for declining to prosecute her, and that the only improper actions influencing 2016 election were actions that damaged Clinton, not trump.
Spinning won't change a thing.....
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 14, 18 3:26 PM
DOJ Inspector General Report ... ABSOLUTELY SHAMEFUL and expected

could you imagine what we would have learned if the documents were not severely redacted by the very people it implicated.

again Disgusting !
By joe hampton (3109), The Hamptons on Jun 14, 18 5:39 PM
Awwww, a little hissy fit by an apparent insider who knows the condition of the DOJ documents?
Only thing shameful is the trump administration wielding the Bible as a weapon to justify inflicting trauma on innocent children. (Same crowd that insists that every child deserves a mother and a father, mind you.) That, sir, is what you should be worked up over.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 14, 18 6:26 PM
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday dear the best president to ever set foot in the oval office

Happy Birthday to you!!
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 14, 18 6:24 PM
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I told you all. Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock. Comey is outed as the real sleaze that he is. I knew the second he went on his book tours and appeared on shows like The View where he showed his puppy dog eyes and innocent demeanor on live TV. You know...the whole "who me?" look. Disgrace. A man who once was thought as having great integrity is nothing but a Clinton pimp. DOWN WITH THE REST OF THEM...INCLUDING THE MAIN CULPRIT....YES YOU HILLARY!
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 14, 18 7:12 PM
Can you please pick me up some dinner while you're in that alternate reality?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 14, 18 7:35 PM
Comey cost Hillary the presidency, and you're mad at him? And Hillary lost, and you're mad at her? Makes sense.


By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 14, 18 8:00 PM
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Glad to see you've come to terms with Hillary's loss. Your grieving has a long, long way to go, particularly with the insufferable angst you'll feel as the Blue Wave turns into a ripple, but at least you no longer believe the election will be overturned by recounts, electoral college manipulation, lawsuits of various sorts, etc etc. Hillary lost. Hillary lost. It just rolls of the tongue, doesn't it?
By NateNewtown (52), east on Jun 15, 18 7:55 AM
Hillary lost to TRUMP because she was a terrible candidate. Let that sink in , she lost to TRUMP.
By bigfresh (3501), north sea on Jun 17, 18 7:58 AM
TRUMP'S BEST BIRTHDAY!
ECONOMY, NKOREA, WORLD CUP
JOBLESS 44 YEAR LOW
POLL NUMBERS UP

Keep America Great !
By joe hampton (3109), The Hamptons on Jun 14, 18 9:54 PM
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@joe hampton:
WHICH IS IT ?
Best jobs picture in 44 years & Americans are filling jobs in a blaze of glory.
OR OR OR
Immigrants are stealing all our jobs & depressing wages, so we must get them out to save the American worker?
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 15, 18 11:04 AM
June , If you have followed my thoughts over the years you would know that I am for amnesty without citizenship ( you should not have voting rights if you broke the law to get in to the country ) and it must be contingent on a wall going forward...

I am compassionate to the real pain these illegally families are going through and believe since we turned a blind eye while the broke the law for years, we should own up to our lack of enforcement.

After Reagan granted the last amnesty ...more
By joe hampton (3109), The Hamptons on Jun 15, 18 3:25 PM
don't you love when she pretends she did not see a comment she does not want to answer. anyway very well said joe , something i think every reasonable person here could agree with .
By Erin 27 E (1031), hampton bays on Jun 17, 18 1:26 AM
A move that starts with permanent protection from deportation and ends in citizenship (even if delayed/subject to penaltie$) for these folks would be a great step, Joe.

The immigration bill that passed the senate in 2013 included things like forward operating bases along the border, horse/atv patrols, 24/7 drone operations, motion sensors, etc.

The technology exists, but does the political will exist to welcome these folks into the fold?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 6:44 AM
Joe, she ( June Bug ) never answered you because she never wanted to engage in a conversation about this subject, she just wanted to repeat the talking points she heard on Laurence O'Donnell
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 18, 18 11:00 PM
@joe hampton: The question posed contains a contradiction that exists among the cultists, and instead of addressing the contradiction, we get an unsolicited treatise from you. I have no interest whatsoever in your wall fixation, and your idea of amnesty is wanting, to say the least.. A reprieve without voting rights? To put a human into a no-man's land of servitude is tantamount to being a slaveholder. News flash, Mr. Hampton, an amnesty is a pardon. A pardon is absolution. Absolution ...more
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 19, 18 7:36 PM
IG REPORT: OBAMA LIED OVER KNOWLEDGE OF HILLARY CLINTON’S PRIVATE EMAIL
Obama one of 13 direct contacts in Clinton’s private email, report findings show
By They call me (2349), southampton on Jun 15, 18 7:51 AM
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Wait, Obama had previously said he learned about Clinton emails when everyone else did??????

What a lying sack of corrupt garbage...the entire Obama administration!
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 15, 18 9:47 AM
Did they conduct government business using private e-mail or exchange pictures of their kids?

It probably makes a difference.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 15, 18 10:29 AM
He still lied about it. That is clear. She emailed Obama from a foreign country. Report states that foreign entities received classified information form private emails.
By Taz (421), East Quogue on Jun 15, 18 10:36 AM
He said he had no knowledge of Clinton conducting official business via e-mail.

In order to demonstrate Obama lied, we would need to know the contents of the e-mails he received from her to determine whether they were official business.

Right?
Jun 15, 18 10:46 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
First sentence should read "conducting official business via PRIVATE e-mail"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 15, 18 10:46 AM
Yes Fore when you're right you're right.

It's giving Obama WAAAY too much credit to know the difference between...

dot com and
dot gov

Smartest President EVER! LMAO!!!!

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 15, 18 3:07 PM
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You missed the point.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 16, 18 6:10 AM
Excuses, excuses. He is no innocent in all of this. Strock/Page texts show White house wanted to be kept informed on their anti-Trump progress.
By Taz (421), East Quogue on Jun 15, 18 11:00 AM
Yup, excuses like "maybe we need to know the content of the e-mails before we determine they were official business."

Check the timeline on those texts. They referred to the election meddling investigation regarding Russia.

Why wouldn't a president want to be appraised of that?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 15, 18 11:27 AM
After presenting 500 pages of bias against the president the executive summary says there was no evidence of bias.
By Undocumented Democrat (1671), southampton on Jun 15, 18 4:39 PM
You should re-read the report. It says that, even when bias was found, there was no evidence it impacted decision making.

Everyone's got a bias. Judges are biased against accused pedophiles. That doesn't necessarily mean they can't be impartial.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 16, 18 6:09 AM
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And the OIG notes in other places they did not have confidence there wasn't bias.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 10:14 AM
Again, the existence of bias is not a fatal flaw.

Professionals are supposed to be impartial despite whatever bias they hold.

The way this is ironed out is to ask whether decision-making would have unquestionably been different, but for the bias.

There was no evidence of decision-making affected by bias.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 10:19 AM
Again, simply pointing out the noted comment by the OIG and adding, certainly the issue of bias was a concern given the great lengths they went to, to mention it and even noting they did not have confidence there wasn't bias.

Jun 18, 18 11:39 AM appended by Po Boy
Law enforcement are masters at articulating something they want to support, such as a warrant or other "decision." Finding whether there was bias behind it is rather difficult to prove, yet the existence of countless hate filled emails certainly does suggest otherwise,.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 11:39 AM
Judges are biased against pedophiles, but does that mean they can't be impartial?

Rinse and repeat that logic for the topic at hand.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 11:44 AM
You have --->NO<---idea what peoples bias are, so don't even attempt to speak to them. Like so many of your arguments, you argue it like you somehow have insider knowledge to what their thoughts, or bias, are.

You don't. Maybe the judge is also a pedophile.


By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 5:09 PM
I do like to presume that a vast majority of people are biased against pedophiles, and use it as an example because it's a bias that's easy to identify with, but if your argument is "not everyone is opposed to pedophilia!" (yikes!) then I'm happy to switch it to a general thought experiment:

IF a judge holds deep negative feelings toward pedophiles, does that mean he cannot act impartially in a case dealing with a convicted pedophile?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 5:21 PM
Did the judge text his overt dislike toward pedophiles on his government phone to colleagues where it was uncovered? Because if he did, the defense would argue for a different judge...and they'd get it for the very reason of....POTENTIAL BIAS.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 7:04 PM
You think a conversation between a judge and a friend about the judge's overt dislike of people who abuse children would get the judge recused on a case overseeing a child abuser? That's a stretch, do you have any support for it?

Also, it's not "POTENTIAL BIAS." I'm granting you the existence of bias in this scenario because you had that knee-jerk reaction that "not everyone hates pedophiles!"

The question is whether decision-making is affected by that bias.

By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 7:15 AM
Ahhh support, lol, it's not a stretch at all. Anything that would taint the trial would be accommodated to ensure its integrity (GASP sorry for using the "I" word).

My reaction isn't knee jerk, just re-calibrating your straw man to more closely correlate to real events.

The question isn't whether decision making was affected by bias, it is whether bias existed to influence the individual actions of those involved whereby those actions could be tainted with bias.

Jun 19, 18 7:52 AM appended by Po Boy
BTW, the more accurate description of the OIG report is whether their was DIRECT evidence to support that decision making was affected by bias. We already know their was a TON of bias, and we know its existence and extent was misconduct....it's like a bad cop pulling over someone based on skin color, and then saying they rolled through a stop sign. PROVE the stop was based on skin color. You can't. But it still happened.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 7:52 AM
I guess, to be even more precise, the question is whether the existence of bias was so strong that no reasonable unbiased person would have acted in the same manner, so the actions were a clear violation of discretion and the result of bias.

Jun 19, 18 8:15 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
For example, in your cop scenario it could be proven that the suspect did not run a stop sign, and the rest of the arrest and any search incident to that arrest would be thrown out because the stop (and any subsequent search) would be a violation of discretion and unexplainable by anything other than bias.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 8:15 AM
If you're expecting to see a "clear violation of discretion," you must believe in the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy.

How pray tell do you "prove" the suspect DID NOT run a stop sign? LMAO. See previous reference to EB and TF.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 8:24 AM
Video evidence, for one.

A clear violation of discretion is also easy to discover: would a reasonable and unbiased person have acted in the same way?

Where the answer is "no" it is a clear violation of discretion.

It just so turns out that, here, the answer was "yes."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 8:32 AM
Yeah, the introduction of video evidence for a violation of a stop sign happens all the time and "clear violation of discretion" (whatever that is) is easy to discover. Sure.

Deep sigh...

Fore, for someone who has stated they've been in law enforcement, each time we get into these real life discussions, you go woefully off the track and draw conclusions to questions, that just ain't so.




By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 9:20 AM
I never said I was in Law Enforcement, I said I worked with Law Enforcement.

Police cruisers regularly come equipped with video cameras. Surveillance video is ubiquitous, as are civilian dash cams. I highly recommend you get one if you don't have one already.

If you got hit with a ticket you could prove was manufactured with video, why wouldn't you?

When was the last time you sat for a criminal trial? Video evidence is not all that rare.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 9:35 AM
Sigh... why do I bother.

Video on cruisers only runs when the lights are activated.

After the violation has taken place.

By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 11:47 AM
That's just not true across the board, if at all.

Nevertheless, another reason to grab a dash cam!

I have recommendations if you're not tech-savvy.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 12:04 PM
Sigh....

Activation during lights is pretty much the standard for dash cam, and each department policy varies on when body worn is activated.

Good luck with the recommendations, jeffe, and the discovery process.








By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 12:38 PM
I bet you didn't know that, even when the camera is not recording as long as the vehicle is on (as many do), their "activation" by flicking on the lights or several other officer actions also records the immediately preceeding moments for obvious reasons: if the question is whether officers have probable cause to initiate a stop, we want to know what happened BEFORE the stop.

That your statement is demonstrably false does not answer my question: was it a knowing lie?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 12:52 PM
Sigh...

Yes, police only initiate vehicle stops when their vehicle is facing that of the offender to ensure that what took place BEFORE the stop is known.

Geez, the possibility of a four way stop intersection should make your head explode.





By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 2:27 PM
Then you'll be happy to learn that wide-angle lenses are used, and the immediately preceding moments are generally 90+ seconds.

In any event, this has all been a fun distraction (seriously, get a dash cam! You never need it until you do!) from the point at hand: where a reasonable and unbiased person would not have acted in the same way, an abuse of discretion has happened that is only attributable to insurmountable bias.

If the decision is well-founded in law and fact, it doesn't ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 19, 18 2:54 PM
LOL, I see smart guy discovered Quora. Care to claim it as your source Inspector Gadget? If you wanted technical elaboration, those in the know could provide it, and not from Quora.

Now, spring boarding from your previous example of judge/pedophile, and on to bias of a KKK jury deciding on a minority trial. Following your example of a judge/pedophile, the judge would be able to remove bias. Since they are human, wouldn't the KKK be able to do the same against a minority? One would think, ...more
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 19, 18 7:44 PM
Hey June, Fore, Mets, Z, HHS, Fred .... You lost the war, Why don't you put down your guns and come join the President and the rest of us in making America Great


If you don't you are going to continue to look foolish and bitter and it will be a very long 6 1/2 years ahead.
Jun 15, 18 1:39 PM appended by 27dan
GOP wants Trump in 2020, more popular than Obama, JFK, Reagan by Paul Bedard | June 15, 2018 08:44 AM Republican voters are demanding that President Trump run for re-election in 2020, the latest evidence that support among his backers is stronger than it was for nearly every recent president.
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 15, 18 1:39 PM
Will never support a lying, xenophobic, misogynist, bragadoccious, low life piece of scum like the con man, carnival barker, reality show drama queen. Let me know when North Korea dismantles all it's nukes. Your boy, Bolton isn't so optimistic.
By Mets fan (1152), Southampton on Jun 16, 18 10:24 AM
Yeah, no thank you. Worst-case scenario, I'll look like the people who cheered against Obama for eight years: no worse for the wear.

At best, I'll be vindicated by impeachment. Go Mueller go!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 16, 18 10:40 AM
Says a cultist who was "bitter" when Michelle Obama was teaching kids to appreciate vegetables but is just fine with toddlers and infants being ripped away from mothers. The pro-lifer, mind you, who is fine with child abuse. Christ, even when we shamefully interned Japanese Americans we didn't separate families.
And how many times does this mental case have to tell us he wants to be a dictator before Congress removes him?
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 16, 18 11:28 AM
The GOP is so full of **** their primary color should be brown instead of red.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 18, 18 8:31 PM
But the people of South America are brown.
Don't you think before you post ???
Horrible comment from even you.
By pw herman (971), southampton on Jun 19, 18 7:58 AM
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What are the criteria by which a comment is determined to be off-topic and removed?

Isn't the subject of this thread the current President's speech about MS13 that he gave in Bethpage?

By Aeshtron (41), Southampton on Jun 15, 18 2:46 PM
The moderators are pretty permissive, but my experience is that they are not tolerant of discussion of why comments are deleted, tread lightly...

The benevolent moderators giveth, and the just moderators taketh away.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 15, 18 3:30 PM
Aeshtron this thread is weeks and weeks old is the real reason your upset because you don't like a free exchange of ideas and would prefer to stay in a CNN, MSNBC, Google, FB safe space where the inmates run the asylum ?
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 15, 18 3:06 PM
27dan: I'm not upset and didn't convey that I am (was). I strongly agree with a free exchange of ideas. I don't have cable television, never had a Facebook account (or any social media) and only have a limited cellular Internet connection.

I believe both Republicans and Democrats sometimes unreasonably lump those they perceive have different political opinions into broad stereotypes instead of seeing people for the individuals they are.

The subject of the tone of discourse ...more
By Aeshtron (41), Southampton on Jun 16, 18 9:40 AM
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take a look at the headlines, it is more peaceful that it has been in 9 years

thank you president trump

and yes get out and enjoy the weekend everyone ~smile ~
By Erin 27 E (1031), hampton bays on Jun 16, 18 9:48 AM
Uh, you call the press "dishonest". Now you're buying in to their headlines? Which is it, buttercup?
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 18, 18 9:51 AM
They act like Trump will bring the next Pax Romana, LOL.

Tantum stultus in ardenti domui pugnat.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 18, 18 8:17 PM
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How dare conservatives imply FBI bias simply because a TOP LEVEL AGENT said “We’ll stop” Trump from becoming President and called all Trump supporters ‘poor, lazy pieces of sh*t’
By SlimeAlive (837), Southampton on Jun 16, 18 12:04 PM
You should re-read the report. They found bias, but no evidence it impacted decision making.

Everyone's got a bias.

Judges are biased against accused pedophiles. That doesn't necessarily mean they can't be impartial.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 16, 18 1:39 PM
The IG has said "it is not his burden to second-guess “discretionary” investigative decisions unless they were irrational." And yet, The report overflows with such colorful evidence for abhorrence for Trump describing him as “loathsome,” “an idiot,” “awful,” “an enormous d**che,” “f**k Trump”) and his supporters asretarded,” “the crazies,” one could “smell” them.

More alarmingly, the ...more
Jun 17, 18 2:40 PM appended by Po Boy
It’s only Horowitz’s forgiving standard that allows him to determine how bias did or didn't play a role Future reports on potential wrongdoing, to include the Hillary email scandal, may bare this out.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 17, 18 2:40 PM
So what if certain agents could not abide trump. Agents are not forbidden to have opinions or even biases. Anyone in high dudgeon over anti-Hillary bias among agents? We're just now learning that said agents were illegally funneling anti-Hillary information to Devin Nunes. The same Devin Nunes supposedly conducting a bipartisan investigation of Russian election interference. Happily this won't end well for him, and makes the over-the-top caterwauling over Strzok and Page look ridiculous. ...more
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 17, 18 10:32 PM
Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz wrote that Strzok’s messaged conversations with FBI attorney Lisa Page created the appearance that "investigative decisions may have been motivated by bias against then-candidate Trump”.

Ridiculous? I think not. This is very serious, Serious enough where you'll see some heads roll this week. My guess is Tuesday when Gowdy gets his hands on them.
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 17, 18 11:10 PM
So we want to live in a world where wrongdoing is inferred from bias, rather than rooted in actual, demonstrably-biased, decision-making?

Are people incapable of overcoming their bias and acting impartially as a blanket-rule, in your view?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 6:17 AM
"So we want to live in a world where wrongdoing is inferred from bias"

Democrats campaign to win elections on it.
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 7:47 AM
At least we agree that people are capable of overcoming bias to act impartially, and that the contrary shouldn't be assumed absent a showing of demonstrably-biased decision-making, for example a clear violation of discretion.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 8:15 AM
"At least we agree..."

LMAO...
By Po Boy (1836), Water Mill on Jun 18, 18 8:58 AM
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If Democrats don’t want Trump enforcing democrat immigration laws the Democrats will have to work with Trump to change their harsh immigration laws.
By even flow (657), East Hampton on Jun 18, 18 6:26 AM
House Republicans can't even agree on a single bill, and they scrambled last week to scuttle the discharge petition in fear that democrats would be able to take action before they did.

Let's see is they can corral the troops around either of the bills being considered this week, but I doubt it. Wasn't even POTUS unsure whether he'd sign them?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3019), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 18, 18 6:47 AM
Children are the currency of the Left.... every bad idea they have is "For the children..." until they become inconvenient...… then its CHOICE!
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 19, 18 7:07 AM
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I can think of 3 kids from an immigrant mother who’ve broken the law, have no real jobs, and cost taxpayers millions of dollars who should be locked up in cages.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 19, 18 7:53 PM
MAGA!!!!

Poverty's not a crime. Don't throw debtors in jail.

The Editorial Board, USA TODAY Published 4:44 p.m. ET June 18, 2018 | Updated 5:13 p.m. ET June 18, 2018

Judges are being used as debt collection tools, and prosecutors are 'renting out' their powers to collect on bounced checks: Our view


More than 200 local prosecutors across the country have also partnered with private companies, essentially, "renting out" their powers to collect on bounced checks. ...more
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 18, 18 8:09 PM
GALLUP: TRUMP APPROVAL BEST OF PRESIDENCY...

Satisfaction with direction of nation highest in decade...
Jun 18, 18 10:52 PM appended by 27dan
The more celebrities melt down, the more it strengthens my resolve to support President Trump.
By 27dan (2346), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 18, 18 10:52 PM
Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey hey hey
Goodbye....Strzok!!

Who's next???
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 19, 18 6:10 PM
In America even FBI agents are allowed opinions, and allowed to make mistakes. Why aren't you as exorcised over the NY FBI agents who actively jeopardized Hillary Clinton's campaign in collusion with Ghouliani because of their hatred for her? Or is it that only those who hate the horror you elected need excoriation? Btw, Strzok is still employed.
By June Bug (2105), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 19, 18 7:07 PM
Yeah...so is McCabe...lol. Speaking of being exorcised. Where was Strzok's energy when Hillary was being questioned in regards to smashing her phone and using BleachBit? You remember? The 30,000 plus emails? Oh...maybe Strzok was in those emails along with his FBI buddies. But when Trump was on the radar...POW! Strzok leaped into action like some superhero that was going to thwart the biggest upset in US Presidential history. WRONG!
Big mistake texting Mr. Ed....I mean, er, Lisa Page.
By DiseaseDiocese (110), Riverhead on Jun 19, 18 8:17 PM
Headed to America, some people ended up in New Zealand.
By Mr. Z (10155), North Sea on Jun 19, 18 8:44 PM
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