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Jun 22, 2018 4:59 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Zeldin Says Families Should Be Detained Together, But Sees Little Sign Of Legislative Progress

Jul 2, 2018 7:55 AM

To U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin, legislation that deals with immigrant families caught crossing into the United States illegally is not something Congress can wait until after the November election to address, as President Donald Trump suggested on Friday morning.

But, Mr. Zeldin said in an interview on Friday, he also has been frustrated by the inability of the Republican majority in the House of Representatives to find enough support for a bill that addresses the issues feeding the recent furor. Mr. Zeldin said he has even less hope that the Senate will be able to muster a consensus.

“On every single issue of importance, whether related to immigration or something else, we should be working to make progress and, regardless of who [controls the White House or Congress], be working in good faith to get to ‘Yes’ on good legislation,” he said. “But there are people who only want to deal with getting a wall built—and there are people who are only interested in dealing with DACA,” he said of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals immigration policy, which allows some people who were brought into the country illegally to avoid deportation.

“And when you need 60 votes, in this Senate, it seems like it’s impossible to get anything across the finish line,” Mr. Zeldin said.

He voted in favor of a GOP-crafted bill that had been on the floor of the House on Thursday, June 21, but failed to get the 218 votes in favor needed to pass. Subsequently, President Trump signed an executive order halting separation of children from their parents if the family is detained by federal border patrol officers—but that order is being subject to court scrutiny.

Legislation that “fixes” the issue with detaining children at the border is what is needed, Mr. Zeldin said, along with faster deportation proceedings to prevent government facilities from being overwhelmed.

The second-term Republican congressman said that he is not in favor of separating parents and children who are caught entering the country illegally—but he also is not in favor of the traditional “catch-and-release” policy, in which detainees are logged into the immigration processing system and then released to re-appear later in court.

“Finding a way to keep adults with their children, at the border, makes the most sense to me,” he said. “There’s colleagues of mine that think we should immediately release the whole family. I don’t agree with that either.

“We have laws in this country, and we’ve had a policy of not enforcing those laws for too long,” he added. “The consequence of that is … a message being sent to anyone who wants to come to our country that if doing it illegally is quicker than doing it legally, that’s okay. What’s the point of having stronger border security if you have no policy of enforcement?”

With immigration detention facilities already overwhelmed, Mr. Zeldin said on Friday, doing away with catch-and-release policies would require a significant speeding up of the deportation review process.

“The costs of detention increase the longer someone is detained, so adjudicating cases as quickly as possible will also make the entire process less expensive,” he said.

As the Trump administration has, Mr. Zeldin said that the problem faced by immigration authorities—through four presidential administrations now—is one that stems from a 1997 court case settlement that barred the government from holding immigrant children indefinitely. Rather, the ruling said, they should be released to other family members or close friends who are in the country and, while they are in custody, be kept in the “least restrictive conditions” possible.

The Republican-sponsored bills that have been simmering on the two floors of Congress last week both proposed to override the court settlement and allow the government to hold children with their families while they go through the sometimes months-long deportation process.

Mr. Zeldin said that Congress should address the issue in a more permanent way, and that it will require political gamesmanship to be set aside in favor of negotiation, on both sides of the aisle.

“There are a number of congressional Democrats who want to deal with this issue in good faith and would vote for a bill that deals with border security and enforcement, if it also deals with DACA,” he said. “But some in the Senate are refusing to even sit down, because they want to have this issue to campaign on in September. The responsibility ultimately falls on the leadership, who are encouraging their members to take a knee.”

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Ok, I vote for Zeldin. Does he not make sense about obeying laws? Laws take forever to exist in this great country. What's great is that if enough people agree to change them it can happen. If not, then obey the law.
By lirider (220), Hampton Bays on Jun 22, 18 11:29 PM
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According to Piaget's "Theory of Moral Devlopment", an individual should achieve "Autonomous Morality" at about ten years of age. After reaching this developmental milestone people grasp moral relavitism and are guided by their own beliefs about what constitutes moral behavior instead of relying on rules/laws to guide their actions. Individuals who have moved beyond morality imposed from the outside ("Heteronomous Morality") may choose to break laws/rules, while accepting the potential consequences ...more
By Aeshtron (75), Southampton on Jun 25, 18 3:17 PM
RED WAVE A COMING ...
By Ditch Bum (495), Water Mill on Jun 22, 18 11:32 PM
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The only red wave will be the hemorrhaging of the gop!
By hamptonsfinds (3), sag harbor on Jul 4, 18 11:04 PM
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Wasn't it his Party that refused to deal in good faith when Obama was President? I seem to remember a Supreme Court opening that was left openfor almost a year.
By tenn tom (196), remsenburg on Jun 23, 18 6:23 AM

The US just got slapped with a lawsuit for drugging illegal aliens children in holding facilities. Oh, wait... that was in 2015 during obama
By even flow (704), East Hampton on Jun 23, 18 6:52 AM

Donald Trump must be a heartless bastard. After all, he did say “We have to send a clear message, just because your child gets across the border doesn’t mean your child gets to stay.” Oh, wait, sorry, that was actually Hillary Clinton in 2014, not Donald Trump.
By even flow (704), East Hampton on Jun 23, 18 6:24 AM
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Even flow, keep deflecting. This is a policy by the trump administration. His senior adviser Steve miller specifically,Former aid to Jefferson Beauregard Sessions.miller was also a college friend with Richard Spencer, remember him? You can give all the false info you want. This policy of separating children is trumps. All the bluster all week of blaming everyone but himself, pathetic.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 23, 18 7:09 AM
lol, too early...read it as 'keep defecating'.
By deepchanel (39), Hampton Bays on Jun 26, 18 8:26 AM
Detain Together , Deport Together.
By pw herman (1011), southampton on Jun 23, 18 10:18 AM
I would just add "adjudicate together" since deportation would not be the end-result in all cases.

But basically, yeah, this is what people are asking for.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 23, 18 9:51 PM
Here’s Little Lee still trying — pathetically — to prop up Big Donald. It doesn’t work, Lee, not on any issue, but particularly not on this one. This one is special. You can’t rip little kids away from their mothers and then finesse it with some sludge about “working in good faith.” Uh-uh, hombre.

This one requires immediate, sharply focused action: FIND THE BABIES AND GET THEM BACK TO THEIR PARENTS. Period, as some in the White House are still ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1849), Quiogue on Jun 23, 18 10:39 AM
Okay, ENOUGH! What have you done with the original Turkey Bridge, the one who would NEVER resort to invidious characterizations and name-calling?

Bring back the real TB!



By Frank Wheeler (1796), Northampton on Jun 23, 18 4:33 PM
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Trump's biggest lapdog speaks! Guess he checked with Trump and was allowed to stray from the script. Sorry Lee.. it's too late. My guess is you know that and are starting to panic. But two terms will look good on your resume.
By harbor (350), East Hampton on Jun 23, 18 10:58 AM
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Lee Zeldin, Trump's lackey, will own this disastrous and inhumane policy.
Children and Parents will forever be scarred, thanks to Zeldin and the GOP.
These racist Trump policies must end ... starting with the defeat of Lee Zeldin..

TUESDAY, JUNE 26, DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.

VOTE!
By HamptonClassic (62), Southampton on Jun 23, 18 12:12 PM
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He’s such a fraud. Go ahead Lee, blame your republican colleagues for not rallying around a bill that you all know is asinine just for a quick PR boost about separating families. “Well, you could’ve saved those immigrant kids if you just agreed to destroy our country!” Is not negotiating. It’s literally holding children hostage.
By Brandon Quinn (151), Hampton Bays on Jun 23, 18 1:00 PM
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Lee needs to step up and become a Leader here. This is one of those moments where leaders with true character stand apart from spineless followers.
By allenfein (61), Southampton on Jun 23, 18 7:32 PM
Zeldin is spineless. Don’t want to say anything to get on trumps twitter rampages.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 23, 18 8:11 PM
Zeldin served in the Iraq War in 2006 while you were home typing on this blog. He's anything but spineless.
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jun 24, 18 12:06 AM
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And your thoughts on draft dodging? Spineless too? Let me know how your foot tastes.
By hojo (5), Speonk on Jun 25, 18 3:56 PM
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President Bone Spurs

How does Trump's foot taste?
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jun 25, 18 8:58 PM
He was a military divorce lawyer.
By sgt202 (67), Hampton Bays on Jul 3, 18 12:53 PM
And where were all of you snowflakes when Obama, Hillary, Bill, and the rest of the libs were spouting the same anti-immigration sentiment?? You're not all that stupid are you? Theses clearly an attack on Trump and ANYBODY who agrees with him. The MSM in this country should be ashamed of themselves...and the people in this country know their full of crap. Look at the ratings. MSM falls dead last in everything. Nobody listens. Everyone has tuned out. Trump won and will win again....DEAL WITH IT!!!!
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jun 24, 18 12:10 AM
There's nothing wrong with enforcing laws humanely. Separating children from their parents for the prosecution of misdemeanor illegal entry is not humane.

That's why it wasn't done by previous administrations.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 24, 18 6:54 AM
It happens every day in the judicial system.

What makes illegal entry special?
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 25, 18 8:51 AM
Let's go through this logically:

A person is arrested for misdemeanor (let's put aside Leandra's law for a moment) DUI with a child in the backseat.

What happens to that child in most cases?

They spend a couple of hours at the station until a family member or other guardian picks them up, then the child is reunited when the parent is released on their own recognizance or posts bail the next day.

Now, instead of a DUI, let's say the adult is arrested for misdemeanor ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 25, 18 9:13 AM
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Logically is one thing, reality in quite another. Those coming here illegally and those who condone it have an expectation to be treated differently than those who have been place in prison through the judicial system. Separation of the family is separation and the child suffers either way. Both scenarios know the potential downside when they commit the crime.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 27, 18 1:04 PM
Yet one form of harm is clearly greater than the other.

In case you're unclear, it's the one with an indefinite period of time and no established process of reunification.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 27, 18 1:44 PM
Glad to see your back diseased. Missed your comedy routine. I was saying Zeldin was spineless politically. He had no comment till after the fact.you can deflect all you want with your nonsensical statements, history will judge trump for his lame policy. Nice to see you back, keep up your hard work.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 24, 18 6:17 AM
...Zeldin is all about himself and his political future, which will be short -lived because he really is not very popular. He is defensive and confrontational. He has brought nothing back to the 1st CD with the exception of money for dredging local inlets which is a no-brainer since we are talking emergency life and death situations. I suppose the proposed zip code in Flanders might count for something - how's that coming along?
By William Rodney (496), southampton on Jun 24, 18 9:05 AM
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Zeldin in a landslide! Especially with the slate of liberal loons lining up against him.
By bigfresh (3567), north sea on Jun 24, 18 9:18 AM
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Tea party is dead, maybe align with the loony freedom caucus. Zeldin is an empty suit.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 24, 18 9:39 AM
Maybe not too surprisingly, technology can provide the answer to a lot of this. Up above, I said you can keep families together, not in detention, and solve the no-show problem with ankle bracelets.

I’ve since learned the bracelets worked well during the Obama administration, costing $36 per day vs. the $775 per day that detention costs. Under Trump, ICE dropped them, claiming they didn’t rid the US of enough asylum seekers.

See, that’s all these clowns care ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1849), Quiogue on Jun 24, 18 11:10 AM
And right there folks is why Zeldin takes it in landslide, thanks Turk.
By bigfresh (3567), north sea on Jun 24, 18 12:01 PM
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Of the 1300 detained children at a Texas facility, only 70 were separated from parents, the other 1230 came over alone. What should be done? Let em loose unsupervised or send them back unsupervised?
By even flow (704), East Hampton on Jun 24, 18 12:14 PM
Yes, of the 12,000 in custody, only about 2,000 have been separated from their parents.

THOSE are the kids people are concerned with; the rest of them are in custody for a good reason, their own safety, but zero-tolerance prosecution of misdemeanor illegal entry is not a good reason.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 24, 18 10:47 PM
The GOP is filled with despicable animals.
By johnj (834), Westhampton on Jun 25, 18 9:58 AM
But MS-13 is a-ok in your book.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 26, 18 8:18 AM
Show me once where I've said that. That's right, never.
By johnj (834), Westhampton on Jun 26, 18 11:29 AM
Can all restaurant owners please post a copy of their voter registration card on the window of their establishment. Thank you.
By SlimeAlive (879), Southampton on Jun 25, 18 12:42 PM
Lol, no.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 25, 18 12:58 PM
Hey slime, if this is in reference to Sarah Huckabee Sanders. The restaurant had a sign clearly displayed , no shoes no service, no shirt no service, no soul no service.It wasn’t unwarranted.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 25, 18 12:54 PM
Sarah Sanders can drive in Saudi Arabia but can't enjoy dinner unmolested in democrat country.
By SlimeAlive (879), Southampton on Jun 25, 18 2:31 PM
Trumpists are not a protected class.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 25, 18 2:39 PM
Zeldin is finished. Polling shows him losing to the generic Dem. Pls vote
for for your Dem of choice on Tuesday. Get out and make a difference.
And then defeat the Trump Chump in Nov. See you all tomorrow at our
polling place!
By allpeoplecount (7), eastport on Jun 25, 18 1:44 PM
Hey slime, life is cruel. Comparing Saudi Arabia and the USA is a stretch. But Sarah Huckabee Sanders can drive to a nice McDonald’s, her bosses favorite eatery.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 25, 18 2:36 PM
The way that I understand it is a very simple thing they sign a deportation agreement and their kids are not taken away from them. If they refuse to sign the deportation document then their kids have to go to a separate facility where they are kid for until after the proceedings
By widow gavits (194), sag harbor on Jun 25, 18 3:38 PM
False. There are expedited deportation proceedings that parents can consent to AFTER being charged with misdemeanor illegal entry.

Children are minors and subject to guardianship as well as other protections, so they cannot consent to the same process.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 25, 18 3:56 PM
Maybe I am the only one that feels this way, but I don't really consider this a top priority issue for the government to concern itself with. Maybe this helps explain why congressman and senators get absolutely nothing done because they spend way too much time on unimportant issues. (I know this is important to Democrats because they see it as a capital opportunity to discredit Republicans but all politicians should be ashamed of themselves for how they spend their time accomplishing absolutely ...more
By dave21 (8), westhampton on Jun 25, 18 3:40 PM
Maybe I am the only one that feels this way, but I don't really consider this a top priority issue for the government to concern itself with. Maybe this helps explain why congressman and senators get absolutely nothing done because they spend way too much time on unimportant issues. (I know this is important to Democrats because they see it as a capital opportunity to discredit Republicans but all politicians should be ashamed of themselves for how they spend their time accomplishing absolutely ...more
By dave21 (8), westhampton on Jun 25, 18 3:40 PM
I understand that the government separating children from their parents for an indeterminate amount of time and with no plan for reunification is unimportant to you, but maybe it's important to other people.

Maybe, as the entity separating and taking custody of both parent and child, the government is already involved and its already-existing involvement is equally entitled to the same debate as something you're concerned with, but others find unimportant.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 25, 18 3:53 PM
The president didn’t think this whole issue out politically or logistically. It was meant to be a deterrent and make him look “tough”. Human compassion is not one of his traits.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 25, 18 4:08 PM
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The President miscalculated politically by caving on the temporary action to end family separation. That was his leverage to get Immigration legislation, easily citing the similar activities of previous administrations and current law.

By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 25, 18 8:03 PM
I don't think that was the politically popular thing to do.

I do think it hurts him that the week before he took action he was shouting from the rooftops that there was nothing he could do.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 25, 18 8:08 PM
So are you libs denying that kids weren't caged like animals at the border in 2014? Was this an aberration? Jeh Johnson said it himself. He confirmed all of it. The Clintons agreed too. All that tough talk on immigration....where did it go? Is it under Trump's bad haircut somewhere? You libs are amazing. You obviously don't do your homework....EVER. Every talking point that you have taken to the extreme in 2018 was a non-entity by liberals just a few years ago. You guys are swinging waaaaayyyy too ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jun 25, 18 8:10 PM
The unaccompanied minors crisis is ongoing and separate from the separation of children from their parents for the zero-tolerance prosecution of misdemeanor entry without inspection.

The latter has only been occurring since April, and was announced by Jeff Sessions.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 25, 18 8:36 PM
Diseased, you are kidding right? You are totally misrepresenting what meh Johnson said. I’ve seen the interview, and just looked it up to make sure. He said it may have happened in certain circumstances. The parent was arrested for drugs or the person lied about the child being theirs. Basically rare circumstances. He stressed they would never separate families. You never cease to amaze with your distortion of facts.your hand wringing is remarkable. I really like the PERIOD! at the end, brilliant.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 25, 18 8:40 PM
“If you get me one more glass of wine, I’ll tell you stuff only Bob Mueller and I know. If you think you’ve seen wild stuff so far, buckle up. It’s going to be a wild couple of months.”

~ Senator Mark Warner (D-Va.)
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jun 25, 18 9:19 PM
Maybe he heard it from an "American lawyer,"
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 25, 18 9:30 PM
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By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jun 25, 18 9:42 PM
Just to add diseased, you got it right about trump having a bad haircut. I think that’s the only thing you ever said that was consistently true.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 25, 18 9:45 PM
How about some politicians with the courage, intelligence and will to reach across the aisle for common sense solutions that their constituents actually want?

Nah! Why bother with such nonsense when constantly throwing bombs across the aisle gets them on 27East with their narrow minded followers lining up in lockstep behind them digging a deeper divide.
By VOS (1104), WHB on Jun 25, 18 11:06 PM
Calls for violence from deranged left have reached a tipping point, and It's not just a Civil War. We are being invaded by Countries from around the world.

This is a World War where 95% of the World's Population is trying to erase the other 5%

It's just facilitated by White Liberals which confuses people
Jun 25, 18 11:40 PM appended by They call me
I just bought a red MAGA hat and will wear it everyday.President Trump, It is time to take off the gloves and start holding the top sob traitors accountable for treason. Stop playing with the snake's tail and go for the head.
By They call me (2369), southampton on Jun 25, 18 11:40 PM
Are you parroting the same right wing radio idiot who said atrazine causes homosexuality? And, that we have bombs which use the herbicide/endocrine disruptor as a chemical weapon? Perhaps it's time to take the kid gloves off regarding bisphenol A? Perhaps it causes homosexuality too, as it can imitate estrogen. NOT.

Just so you know, amphibians have been able to swap genders for millions of years to foster procreation. Sequential hermaphroditism occurs in many species of animal. ...more
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jun 26, 18 5:20 AM
Remember when Democrats offered to pay the legal fees of anyone assaulting a member of the opposition?

Oh wait, that was Trump.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 26, 18 5:49 AM
Well, that wasn't just "a member of the opposition." If you show up to a rally - Trump or otherwise, and in doing so antagonize the hell out of those you hold in disdain to include throwing tomatoes as then candidate Trump mentioned (because that's what was happening to prompt his quote), an incident or assault to that person, just might occur.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 26, 18 8:16 AM
Just as offering to bear the financial burden of defending such acts would be likely to increase their occurrence.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 26, 18 8:28 AM
I've seen no evidence of that taking place. Likely, or otherwise.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 26, 18 9:29 AM
You didn't hear then-candidate Trump offer to pay the legal costs of supporters charged with assault at his rallies? Then you should catch up.

Whether he actually paid or not is irrelevant, the offer is sufficient to instigate violence more than Congresswoman Waters' words which had nothing to do with violence.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 26, 18 9:58 AM
Zing.... you blew right by the facts behind the offer to follow it by offering no examples of it "likely increasing occurrences."

"....such acts would likely...." HAHAHAHA. No. They didn't.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 26, 18 10:07 AM
If you don't understand how offering to pay someone's legal fees promotes the commission of crimes, I can't help you.

You also blew by the fact that Congresswoman Waters didn't speak about violence at all, whereas Trump's words were specific to assaults.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 26, 18 10:17 AM
You can't help, because there is no evidence to prove it would, or did. That is your opinion, and that's fine.

If I blew by anything on Maxine Waters, it's because I haven't given an opinion on it. But since you asked, What I see as the defining difference in Left/Right is the unhinged, angry, vitriolic nature of the Left whether it be the antagonism and throwing of tomatoes which prompted Trumps statement, or the often dog whistle phrases that the Left takes to heart and results in the ...more
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 27, 18 8:28 AM
To not understand how bearing others' financial burden of committing an action promotes that action is sad.
Jun 27, 18 8:33 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
In any event 75-year-old veteran Alvin Bamberger, charged with assaulting a protester at a 2016 rally, alleged he was induced by Trump's prompts and promise to pay legal fees.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 27, 18 8:33 AM
Pushing a women who was antagonistic vs. unprovoked shooting of congressman?

Seriously?

"Plaintiffs’ claims are barred by their unclean hands,” the lawyers concluded."
Jun 27, 18 12:46 PM appended by Po Boy
In any event, "Woman attempts to drive GOP congressman off road over health-care vote, police say."
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 27, 18 12:46 PM
In other words, there's evidence Trump's words induced violence, unlike you asserted above.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 27, 18 1:32 PM
In other words, if you call pushing someone as evidence but dismiss the well proven volatile nature of Democrats, you just might be part of the problem.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 28, 18 8:02 AM
Even Mr. Bamberger said what he did was wrong. I'm not sure why you're defending him, or shying away from his own allegation that Trump's words induced him to commit an assault.

I guess that's some leftover "volatile nature" from Trump's days as a Democrat.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 28, 18 8:16 AM
Mr. Bamberger didn't say any such thing. In fact, he stated he “admits only that he touched a woman”. Mr. Bamberger never said Trump's words induced him either. That is what his attorneys claimed as part of his defense of the charge of harassment.

I'll take silence on the volatile nature of democrats in light of one attempted example as condonation.

By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 9, 18 10:38 AM
To be precise, Alvin Bamberger wrote in an apology letter: "Trump kept saying ‘get them out, get them out’ and people in the crowd began pushing and shoving the protesters...I was caught up in the frenzy. I physically pushed a young woman down the aisle toward the exit, an action I sincerely regret."

Also, to say the claims made in his attorney's legal filings are not Mr. Bamberger's claims is duplicitous.

If Mr. Bamberger believes his attorney is misrepresenting him, ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 2:52 PM
So where did Mr. Bamberger say what he did "was wrong" as you've stated?

He didn't.

By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 7:49 AM
Apology (n): a regretful acknowledgment of an offense or failure.

Does one generally regret things they did right?

I guess that's the same level of navel-gazing required to distinguish an attorney's claims on one's behalf from one's own.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 7:54 AM
re·gret
verb
1.
feel sad, repentant, or disappointed over (something that has happened or been done, especially a loss or missed opportunity).

No where does Mr. Bamberger state what he regrets about the incident. To assume it is an apology, is just that, an assumption to which you have no idea where his regret is focused.

Again, where did Mr. Bamberger say what he did "was wrong" as you've stated?

He didn't.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 3:03 PM
Oh it's very clear what he regrets:

"I physically pushed a young woman down the aisle toward the exit, an action I sincerely regret...I have embarrassed myself, my family, and Veterans...This was a very unfortunate incident and it is my sincere hope that I can be forgiven for my actions."

He apologized for what he did and he seeks forgiveness for his actions.

Why would one seek forgiveness for something they didn't do wrong?

This is like the time you didn't get ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 3:36 PM
They call me, your falling for the commander in chiefs crazed narrative.Hes been calling for violence against his own people. Look back at his statements going back as far as the Central Park five, and still going on today.Live the way you claim your the victim, it’s funny. Hey you never answered me about what a chim chim was? Feel free to answer anytime.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 26, 18 5:05 AM
Patriot call to arms: where you see Democrats- gather a crowd, push back and confront. The civil war has commenced. Good luck be well armed and be vigilant.
By even flow (704), East Hampton on Jun 26, 18 6:16 AM
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Is this "call to arms" literal? That seems risky.

Always know the laws applicable to your jurisdiction, folks.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 26, 18 6:52 AM
Cowards need weapons to defend themselves! Even Flow -- Is your intention to cause those with different political beliefs to fear for their well-being?

How does one determine the political affiliation of people by looking at them?

Please elaborate on "push back and confront" and being "well armed".

To me, even flow's comment at 6:16 am on June 26th seem like a threat of violence.

By Aeshtron (75), Southampton on Jun 26, 18 9:48 AM
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That’s nice even flow, call to arms . that should end well . Activate the oath keepers and every loony right wing militia. It will be fun to see these self proclaimed patriots in action.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 26, 18 6:33 AM
Anyone hear care to defend Mad Maxine?!
By bigfresh (3567), north sea on Jun 26, 18 6:39 AM
I see no problem with socially rejecting people who carry out harm.

If you can deny someone a cake for being gay, you can deny someone a cheeseburger for being a liar.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 26, 18 6:42 AM
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Ignorance isn't a religion.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 26, 18 9:36 AM
And political supporters are not a protected class.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 26, 18 9:54 AM
But wait, those on the Right have been referred to as "the R word." We can't be both "the R word" and not be a protected class. Pick one.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 26, 18 10:01 AM
From Wikipedia: "A protected group or protected class is a group of people qualified for special protection by a law"

Show me the law, Po.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 26, 18 10:05 AM
Well, thank you Captain Obvious. Now, how about showing the text where Trump supporters are referred to as a group in the protected class.

By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 26, 18 10:15 AM
Show me the law.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 26, 18 10:19 AM
No cheeseburger for you.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 26, 18 2:04 PM
As long as I'm still invited to your 4th of July BBQ ;)
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 26, 18 2:27 PM
How about denying service based on sex, race or religious beliefs? How about denying service to liberals?
By bigfresh (3567), north sea on Jun 27, 18 5:54 AM
That would be "right wing" behavior. You don't normally see a left wing religious zealot quoting Leviticus.

Restaurants have the right to refuse service if a party detracts from the safety, well being, or welfare of patrons. The Civil Rights Act does not apply to "Red Hen".
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jun 27, 18 6:01 AM
Let's back up: the civil rights act does apply, and (prior to the cake case) generally one cannot refuse service based on membership in a protected class.

The legal theory is that where a restaurant has sufficient nexus to government (does its clientele use roads, did the restaurant obtain government licensing, etc.) discrimination by the restaurant against people based on their sex, race, religion, or national origin is subject to strict scrutiny by the courts.

Political belies ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 27, 18 6:23 AM
It's simply an interesting parallels that we now have Democrat only restaurants like we once had white only restaurants. Democrats have come full circle.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 27, 18 8:15 AM
That's funny, I haven't heard of "Democrat only" restaurants.

At most, you can say "Trump cabinet members not welcome."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 27, 18 8:22 AM
"As long as I'm still invited to your 4th of July BBQ ;)"

Let me guess, you'll bring the decapitated charred animal carcass.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 27, 18 1:06 PM
It probably depends on the animal. A whole pig is better than a decapitated one, but the chicken should be decapitated even if made whole.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 27, 18 1:29 PM
If I go to a restaurant and order chicken should I specify left wing only? Don't want to get the boot;)
By dnice (2339), Hampton Bays on Jun 27, 18 2:24 PM
To bad we can’t post audio here. We could have hours and hours of trump threatening violence on protesters at his “ rally’s “. Then we could have hrs of him wanting to end civil rights. He’s a gold mine of bs.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 26, 18 7:01 AM
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By pw herman (1011), southampton on Jun 26, 18 7:59 AM
. . . and yet it's the fool Robert De Niro who wants to punch our President in the face. Take idiots Peter Fonda & Set Rogen off the playlist too. Liberal fools, one & all.
By pw herman (1011), southampton on Jun 27, 18 8:33 AM
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democrat business plan:

1.) buy restaurant
2.) name it after a lazy bird that can't fly
3.) put a sign about love in the window
3.) cover it in bird crap
4.) tell over half of America they aren't welcome
By SlimeAlive (879), Southampton on Jun 26, 18 8:00 AM
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Slime, if it was such a crappy establishment, why was Ms. Sanders trying to eat there? It also passed all its health dept inspections, same can’t be said about Mara lago, sad.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 26, 18 9:38 AM
As of this morning, democrats have called for violent confrontation of democrats, the tainting of their food, the rape of the President's grandchildren and the destruction of our borders and ICE agents.
By SlimeAlive (879), Southampton on Jun 26, 18 9:52 AM
That's false. A slimy lie, like the time he insisted that the NRA never made campaign donations to President Trump.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 26, 18 10:01 AM
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Wow, so they are adopting right wing talking points? That’s not good.but this is what the slanted right wing media is reporting, so I’m sure it’s fslse.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 26, 18 10:02 AM
I actually love Maxine Waters. I do. I cherish and love her. I hope she stays at the forefront of the news until 2020. She will help Trump win a second term more than any other GOP or conservative politician or talk show host in the world. Keep it up Maxine...I LOVE YOU!!
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jun 26, 18 5:40 PM
Trump Derangement Syndrome (From Urban Dictionary):

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason.

Symptoms for this condition can be very diverse, ranging from hysterical outbursts to a complete mental break. TDS can also often result in the sufferer exhibiting violent, homicidal, or even genocidal desires.

Sufferers ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jun 26, 18 10:26 PM
Lovely to watch the liberals melt like wax on a hot day.
By Ditch Bum (495), Water Mill on Jun 26, 18 11:05 PM
Twitler Derangement Syndrome
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jun 27, 18 5:24 AM
When the civil war starts, flood ALL basements!
By Ditch Bum (495), Water Mill on Jun 27, 18 1:30 PM
SUPREME COURT DECISION BUSTING PUBLIC UNIONS

Well Its about time !
By They call me (2369), southampton on Jun 27, 18 1:34 PM
Please keep your post-apocalyptic fantasies to yourself, Ditch.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 27, 18 1:42 PM
If a conservative Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, it's over for the GOP.

Women will come out of the woodwork to **** them over.
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jun 27, 18 9:48 PM
not true , only a monster would support abortion after week 20 knowing what we know now thanks to sonogrames... only a MONSTER ! please give woman a little more credit than that mr z.
By Erin 27 E (1038), hampton bays on Jun 27, 18 9:55 PM
I do.

The vast majority have grown up in a pro choice era. As usual, your folly is extreme reasoning without rationality.
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jun 27, 18 10:01 PM
we will see mr z , we will see
By Erin 27 E (1038), hampton bays on Jun 27, 18 10:06 PM
Quixotic is no way to go through life...
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jun 27, 18 10:19 PM
Quixotism : serves to describe an idealism without regard to practicality. An impulsive person or act might be regarded as quixotic.

you mean the kind of impulsive person that would end there baby's life and regret it till the day they die ?
By Erin 27 E (1038), hampton bays on Jun 28, 18 1:22 AM
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No.

More like the kind of self righteous person who would force another to live the way they see fit, and impose their "values" on them.
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jun 28, 18 5:39 AM
Let's clarify. I've said it before, eight weeks. After that, it should be a case of harm, or death of the mother. You don't let a woman die just because you think it's "God's will". "Christian" hospitals have. Somehow, I think the Hippocratic oath would not approve.
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jun 28, 18 10:18 PM
CBS Poll: 51% of Americans Believe a Border Wall is a Good Idea

51 % from CBS ! in this toxic artificial fake news environment , must be more like 80 percent in reality

Build that wall Mr President !



By Ditch Bum (481), Water Mill on Jun
By Ditch Bum (495), Water Mill on Jun 26, 18 11:04 PM
Maybe trump can buy the Great Wall of China. It proved to be very effective in 200 bc.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 27, 18 5:11 AM
TRUMP APPROVAL 45%...

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

Wednesday, June 27, 2018

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 45% of U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance.
By 27dan (2365), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 27, 18 1:17 PM
Poll: 72% of Americans Believe Establishment Media Has Been Deliberately Reporting Fake News Since The 2016 Election Results.

A full 92 percent of Republicans believe the media intentionally mislead the public. Independents are not far behind, with 79 percent. Even a majority of Democrats, 52 percent, agree, according to a Axios/SurveyMonkey poll.
Jun 27, 18 1:22 PM appended by 27dan
The MSM is trying to portray ..' WIDE Democrat Support ' .... but the party continues to shrink , many ' normal ' Dems. are DISGUSTED with the Radical Left
By 27dan (2365), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 27, 18 1:22 PM
"Trump Baby @TrumpBabyUK smashes crowdfunding target ahead of Trump's UK visit."
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jun 27, 18 10:00 PM
27dan, that is the least shocking poll I’ve ever seen.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 27, 18 3:41 PM
Republicans share one thing in common with Trump: self-dealing and hatred of immigrants. Meantime, their master is heading to Finland for a love fest with his Puppet Master. Zeldin is part and parcel of this GOP cesspool.
By Jolly Roger (16), Southampton on Jun 28, 18 11:27 AM
Just immigrants who have cut to the head of the line. I am an legal immigrant and have no problem with " Republicans "
By Undocumented Democrat (1683), southampton on Jun 28, 18 2:29 PM
Again, if you want to change the legal immigration system like Trump suggests, you have a problem with legal immigration too.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 28, 18 4:48 PM
I have a problem with the visa lottery and chain migration, happy now? We should allow immigration by educated people with skills we need to fill positions today, the best and brightest. We have enough uneducated laborers .
By bigfresh (3567), north sea on Jun 29, 18 6:45 AM
"Where are the workers? A farm crisis in Washington" MAY 31, 2018

"Santa Barbara County Avocado Farmer Struggles to Find Workers Amid Immigration Crackdown" JUNE 15, 2018

"Deportations cause labor shortage in Santa Maria agricultural fields" JUNE 24, 2018

All local news sources, by the way.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 29, 18 6:55 AM
I believe bf was speaking to immigration, not seasonal worker needs.

That said, it's not a labor shortage problem, it's a bottom line problem as it relates to seasonal workers vs. illegals and an H2A process that is referred to has difficult to navigate, and wait for it....requires an employer to pay for the housing, etc. So you see, the workers are there, but the problem is a) cost and/or b) (conveniently IMO) described as burdensome by the employers. BTW, hiring an illegal is a violation ...more
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 29, 18 8:14 AM
Bf said "We have enough uneducated laborers."

That's three recent articles about how we don't.

Also, if you bothered to read, these folks were offering above minimum wage for work on-the-books.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 29, 18 8:23 AM
Sure enough, he did. Prior to that, he used "visa lottery" and "chain migration" and "immigration."

Bothered to read? LOL...I quoted and paraphrased from the article.

By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 29, 18 8:52 AM
So then you'd know that we're not talking about hiring undocumented workers.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 29, 18 9:02 AM
LOL...sure enough. Sigh... But the articles you posted evident by the titles alone have to do with deportations and immigration crackdowns.

The question is, do you know we're not talking about hiring undocumented workers?
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 29, 18 11:39 AM
That doesn't change the fact they're evidence we don't "have enough laborers"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 29, 18 12:24 PM
We do not have a shortage of unskilled labor relating to immigration. We've had plenty over the years via chain migration.
We have a shortage of unskilled labor related to temporary visas.

To the original point of bf, he clearly was speaking to item 1, and if those here as part of item 1 are getting deported, then they shouldn't have been here in the first place and they most certainly shouldn't have been working since they were illegal.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 29, 18 3:35 PM
Does it matter to the farmers with fruit rotting on the vine if their laborers are here on a temporary on permanent basis?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 29, 18 3:41 PM
Chain migration?

Perhaps you should take a look into the immigration status of the FLOTUS' parents. The hypocrisy never ceases to astound...
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 1, 18 7:57 PM
Meow. It's not a fair argument to you to compare chain migration where countless numbers cost the taxpayers millions in public assistance to that of those who will cost the tax payers, nothing.

The hypocrisy in claiming hypocrisy never ceases to astound...
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 2, 18 12:43 PM
Sure. Costs taxpayers nothing as they travel on Air Force One, attend events with their daughter.

You should see her parent's wedding photo. Melania looks so much like her mother. Well, before she went under the knife...
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 3, 18 6:52 AM
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By pw herman (1011), southampton on Jul 3, 18 7:22 AM
LOL pw! I'm astonished Z you'd think Air Force One wouldn't be flying had the parents not been attending. Note the mention of "public assistance," too.

Loony Leftist logic....sheesh...

By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 3, 18 7:33 AM
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By pw herman (1011), southampton on Jul 3, 18 8:18 AM
How convenient we have a shooting to distract from Jim Jordan catching Rosenstein in a lie. Comey allowed thousands of Americans to be illegally unmasked in illegal deep state surveillance of President Trump. Just like what the DNC did to Bernie this was collision to change the outcome of an election... high crimes and an attempt at a soft coup.
Jun 28, 18 4:26 PM appended by They call me
If i was a conspiracy fan i would suggest maybe this was brought to you by the same folks who made Mandalay Bay possible.... Seems there is always a team locked and ready to wag the dog
By They call me (2369), southampton on Jun 28, 18 4:26 PM
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"If I was a conspiracy fan" lol
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 28, 18 4:47 PM
Hey they call me, what’s a chim chim? Why do you refuse to answer.jim Jordan is as unhinged as you can get .thousands unmasked? If you recall the election was swayed, we are living that nightmare.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 28, 18 4:55 PM
chim chim was the little sneeky & devious monkey from speed racer
By They call me (2369), southampton on Jun 28, 18 5:56 PM
All of you libbies are done anyway. Trump's presidency came at just the right time. When he wins in 2020, he will potentially be replacing multiple SC Justices. Hopefully he puts young, right-leaning justices that actually respect the rule of law. No social justice warriors allowed. Trump's power will be felt for generations and generations....thank the lord! I'm totally satisfied with him not accomplishing one more single thing from now until the end of his 8 years. He's already done enough and ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jun 28, 18 6:24 PM
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That little weasel Rosenstein is obstructing to protect not only his own guilty arse, but no doubt Obama's too!

Get that info no matter what!
By Ditch Bum (495), Water Mill on Jun 28, 18 7:00 PM
He was appointed by trump, explain that far fetched conspiracy theory.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 28, 18 7:06 PM
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Hey they call me, thanks for clearing that up. Your dog whistle is still working?
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 28, 18 7:08 PM
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Mutilated finger tips ?

Wow, if I was TCM I might suggest ...
By joe hampton (3121), The Hamptons on Jun 28, 18 7:45 PM
Dems don’t care about the victims, they just want to punish the gun.
It seems for some in the media the shooter isn’t culpable until they find out what color he is!
By Ditch Bum (495), Water Mill on Jun 29, 18 7:58 AM
How does one punish a gun, exactly?

In any event, this one can be leveled at the feet of anyone inciting violence against journalists for "spreading fake news."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 29, 18 8:12 AM
You heartlessly rip it from it's legal parent or guardian, separating it away from the person who loves it the most.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 29, 18 8:19 AM
"Guns are people too"

Whatever you say, Po.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 29, 18 8:24 AM
"Guns are people too"

Well, mine just sit in the corner and behave themselves. But I've heard some have a mind of their own and do horrible things.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 29, 18 8:49 AM
Good one fore, p o boy is home nursing his gun right now.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 29, 18 8:31 AM
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If it worked for corporations, why not an AR-15?

The pro-life crowd is on to something: Clearly defined personhood legislation might be the solution after all.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 29, 18 8:46 AM
If they are given human qualities rather than treated as the inanimate objects they are, what are we left to conclude.

Now, come to daddy, baby.... you're safe with me.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jun 29, 18 8:47 AM
Good one Po Boy
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jun 29, 18 8:50 AM
Trump plays golf today while thousands of children remain unreunited with their parents. Good new job for the defeated Zeldin: Trump's caddy. 0h wait, he already has that job. Hope the tips are good! Deport convicted criminal Sebby
Gorka. Where's ICE when you really NEED them?
By allpeoplecount (7), eastport on Jun 30, 18 5:54 PM
........ NEXT !
Jul 1, 18 12:34 AM appended by They call me
The Left needs to face reality: Trump is winning By Michael Goodwin June 30, 2018
By They call me (2369), southampton on Jul 1, 18 12:34 AM
Exactly! Next? Hint...it won't be a liberal. I'll say it here too. You can try to impeach him after midterms. Who cares? After the next hard right justice gets in....TRUMP WINS!
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 1, 18 1:09 AM
WASHINGTON, DC – President Trump has whittled his Supreme Court list from 25 down to 7 names and will announce a final decision on July 9.
By 27dan (2365), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 1, 18 8:24 AM
Perhaps the candidate will be treated as decently as Merrick Garland.
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 1, 18 7:58 PM
Decency isn’t in trumps makeup.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 1, 18 8:14 PM
The nomination of Merrick Garland was rushed by Obama after the death of Justice Scalia. I'm not saying that Mitch McConnell was right in refusing to agree to appoint Garland to the SCOTUS...but it worked. Maybe it was dirty politics. Sorry. Your loss. This time around, Kennedy didn't die. There is no official or unofficial reason why Democrats should put a stop to Trump's pick. There's no excuse here. There's nothing you can do about it. Sorry. Stick a fork in you.....you libs are cooked.
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 1, 18 9:56 PM
So is the planet. You just don't realize it yet. Keep Bible thumpin, oil drillin, gas guzzlin, and living under the heel of the Almighty Dollar. Seek no truth, winning is all. It's the "right wing" way, no matter what is destroyed in the pursuit of "victory". And, justice for all...
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 1, 18 10:31 PM
Here's the deal.

Conservatives, nationalists and most libertarians are rock solid behind President Trump and are going to vote in droves in 2018, even though it's a mid-term We know what's at stake.

But minorities and other members of the Rats' Coalition of Hate are going squishy on the marxists and globalists as they finally begin stepping fully out of the closet, and since they can easily see the benefits of the MAGA agenda. It's also obvious to any of them capable of thinking ...more
By They call me (2369), southampton on Jul 2, 18 8:32 AM
Hateful rhetoric, served fresh.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 2, 18 8:38 AM
Diseased, rushed because Scalia died? He died , there was no rush, there was a vacancy on the bench. Your argument holds no water. Just remember, the pendulum swings both ways.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 2, 18 5:09 AM
Elections have consequences and Trump will appointed his SECOND Supreme Court Justice shortly , in all probability he will appoint a THIRD during his first term, these appointees will positively effect our lives for decades .
By bigfresh (3567), north sea on Jul 2, 18 5:43 AM
Hey Ruth! Walk TOWARDS the light!
By even flow (704), East Hampton on Jul 2, 18 6:07 AM
At least we can be sure that, regardless of their personal beliefs, they'll know the difference between effect and affect.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 2, 18 7:13 AM
I new what he ment... lol
By Undocumented Democrat (1683), southampton on Jul 2, 18 8:24 AM
Then allow me to elaborate: even if we disagree ideologically, history gives me confidence that our justices will continue to be some of the best-educated, hardest-working, and most intelligent members of our society, one of the benefits of the trial-by-fire that is Senate confirmation.
Jul 2, 18 8:36 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
And the esoteric nature of the law, of course.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 2, 18 8:36 AM
Hey bigfresh, could you answer why you and right wingers call Barack Obama, Hussein Obama, instead of his first name Barack?
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 2, 18 6:14 AM
Lib logic:

“Donald Trump is a Nazi, Racist, orange, unfit and blah blah blah blah”

Oh but you better tell me why you refer to Obama’s middle name!?”
By even flow (704), East Hampton on Jul 2, 18 6:27 AM
Barak HUSSEIN Obama is His name, going forward I will use His first name too.
By bigfresh (3567), north sea on Jul 2, 18 6:38 AM
It's just like when people refer to Trump as Drumpf, but with more dog-whistle.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 2, 18 9:34 AM
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Hussein in the Middle East is like Smith on this side of the pond.

Right wing ignorance and cheerleading never ceases to amaze.
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 2, 18 9:50 PM
I’ve never referred to trump in that manner, not once . Just answer the question. It’s not a tough one.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 2, 18 6:31 AM
Or perhaps Barry Soetoro
By bigfresh (3567), north sea on Jul 2, 18 6:39 AM
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By pw herman (1011), southampton on Jul 2, 18 8:07 AM
There's that hateful rhetoric I hear so much about.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 2, 18 8:18 AM
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So your not gonna answer?
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 2, 18 6:43 AM
No problem bigfresh, I’ll take your comments for what they are for now on.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 2, 18 7:36 AM
No problem bigfresh, I’ll take your comments for what they are for now on.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 2, 18 7:36 AM
WATCH: # WalkAway Movement to Abandon Liberalism
By Undocumented Democrat (1683), southampton on Jul 2, 18 8:31 AM
The Democrat Party has been co-opted and is now part of the Communist Party USA!
By They call me (2369), southampton on Jul 2, 18 8:33 AM
LMMFAO!!

Let's see you spew that garbage after Mueller has completed his due diligence. Loose lips sink ships, and FoxNews now complains there are no leaks from his investigation. Poor crybabies...
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 2, 18 9:55 PM
Is that why trump embraces Putin ?
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 2, 18 8:34 AM
Here we go with Russia again. Do you think it's at all possible (especially coming off the heels of NOKU summit) that Trump just wants to see if it's possible that we could be friendly and work something out towards peace in Russia too?? I know it's foreign to you liberals who espouse peace on a daily basis but when you have a liberal leader in office like Obama...summits like that are not on your agenda....because you don't actually want peace with those countries. Give Trump some credit already. ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 2, 18 10:56 AM
Speaking of the NK summit, how's denuclearization going?

For more interesting reading, search: "Why doesn't Trump talk about the stock market anymore?"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 2, 18 11:03 AM
Awww, don't be a Democrat Debbie Downer....because the President is busy talking about the unemployment rate being the lowest since 1969, record low black unemployment and gap between black and white unemployment shrinking to the narrowest ever measured.



By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 2, 18 12:23 PM
After experiencing the second largest stock rally in the first year of the last eight presidencies (second only to Obama's first year) and tweeting about the stock market about once a week, why has he suddenly dropped the topic?

Maybe he finally realized that if you make the stock market a reflection of your presidency you are accepting fault for the bad as well as credit for the good? Turns out it's not that easy to call concrete numbers "fake news."

It's an interesting column. ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 2, 18 1:22 PM
The article explains it all.

Read it.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 2, 18 4:44 PM
What article? The one I suggested you read?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 3, 18 7:25 AM
If only there was a rolling of the eye emoji Debbie.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 3, 18 7:42 AM
Why are you telling me to read the column I recommended to you?

I just wanted to know if you agree with their interpretation of Trump's new aversion to discussing the stock market, or if you had an alternative hypothesis.

Honestly, I hadn't even noticed he stopped talking about the stock market until I read about it. POTUS certainly is good at drawing attention to and from things at will.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 3, 18 8:17 AM
So, you want to hypothesize about hypothesis.

Sigh...
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 3, 18 8:39 AM
Ok, thanks for the nonconversation, I guess.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 3, 18 11:28 AM
You don't want conversation, you want a soapbox.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 4, 18 8:34 AM
Ok, thanks anyway.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 4, 18 9:45 AM
He’s the greatest!!! There ya go Po Boy.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 2, 18 12:44 PM
Making Presidents Great Again!!
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 2, 18 4:43 PM
Sorry, meant sugar Frosted Flakes , my bad.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 2, 18 6:24 PM
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HE'S GRREAT!
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 2, 18 9:38 PM
From the Kallstadt Dispatch:

Trump's Ancestral Village Populated With Relatives
Few Willing to Admit It. Those Who Do, Do So Under Duress
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 2, 18 10:09 PM
The underlying takeaway, they don't want to be harassed and targeted.

Shameful.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 3, 18 7:41 AM
Hmmmm. The Kallstadt Dispatch you say? I say it's fake news BS and I'll also say that this article is coming DIRECTLY from the liberal rag, New York Times. Dr. Mark Levin said something on his show, Life Liberty Levin last night that struck a chord with me. I've been saying it since the 2016 campaigns. The media is out to get him. Forget the "conspiracy theory" angles. I mean...they are REALLY out to get him.

A liberal Harvard study even revealed the Anti-Trump Media Bias:

A major ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 3, 18 12:21 AM
You can also glean the information from Sepe, which is a German publication.

Thanks for playing.

If it's news the "right wing" petulant children disagree with, it must be fake or "alternative facts".
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 3, 18 6:47 AM
@ DiseaseDiocese

Quote:

"A liberal Harvard study even revealed the Anti-Trump Media Bias:"

["sigh"]

No, DiseaseDiocese, it DIDN'T. It didn't address "bias" at all. What it said was that the news stories on The Donald have, proportionally, been overwhelmingly more negative in tone than those of any of his predecessors.

Perhaps because The Donald's behavior has been overwhelmingly worse?

Once again, the Right-Wing finds support of its baseless ...more
By highhatsize (3604), East Quogue on Jul 3, 18 9:46 AM
America’s Birthday Gift!

Blue-Collar Wages Rising in Red-Hot Economy

That's what happens when you care more about Americans than you do about special interests, and donors. MAGA!!!
By Undocumented Democrat (1683), southampton on Jul 3, 18 11:20 PM
"Blue-Collar Wages Rising in Red-Hot Economy"

Where did you glean that veritable crock of ****?

Breitbart?

How the trade war is changing minds in a Senate battleground
By JONATHAN MATTISE and STEVE PEOPLES
Jul. 07, 2018

Tosh, a third-generation farmer who almost always votes Republican, said he’s voting this fall for Blackburn’s Democratic opponent, former Gov. Phil Bredesen, in part because Trump’s trade wars are hurting his family business ...more
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 9, 18 6:29 PM
Poor diseased, trumps coverage negative? Maybe because he’s the most decisive president ever. From the comments by his loyal followers on here, he deserves every bit of his coverage. His policy’s , which he thinks makes him look strong, Duarte strong, is not what a civilized country needs.the president who acts un-presidential.id like to know exactly what newspapers you guys get your bogus story’s from. What news programs you get your far fetched facts from . You can’t even ...more
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 3, 18 5:40 AM
Oops, meant devisive
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 3, 18 6:28 AM
That Freudian slip belies your true feelings, and you are accurate. He is the most decisive President we've ever had but that's because he's private sector. You should think twice about ever voting for a professional bureaucrat again.

Meanwhile, Maxine Waters is done with ''nice guy politics'' and the right couldn't be happier.
By SlimeAlive (879), Southampton on Jul 3, 18 7:05 AM
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More likely autocorrect via speech to text.

Seems like a lack of critical thought is also a "right wing" qualification.
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 3, 18 7:41 PM
Sorry slime,it’s called auto correct, no Freudian slip. Your right, I’d never vote for trump as president.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 3, 18 8:17 AM
Thanks for playing what Mr Z? The game of "you got caught"? Please don't be so dumb next time as to post a story DIRECTLY from the RAG onto here and try and disguise it as some phony German publication that doesn't even exist.

And Hihatsize...did you even read the Harvard article from Shorenstein Center of Media? I just offered a few facts, that's all. You want to search for bias...go read the entire article yourself.

You liberals amaze me. Trump is up against the world and is ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 3, 18 10:53 AM
Thanks for losing.

I cited my source in the previous message. I frequent a board which gleans news stories from here to New Zealand.
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 3, 18 3:30 PM
"lots of women like real men"---- it has always been this way but the media has tried to hide this. they only give positive press to the "feminists". look at the vicious attacks on conservative women. their message has gained ground to the point that many men I talk to are very pleasantly surprised to find out that a lot of us women are conservative, enthusiastic trump supporters.
By Erin 27 E (1038), hampton bays on Jul 3, 18 11:26 PM
P.S. For a news site that "doesn't exist", it seems quite alive and well as of this morning. Although I did err. It's Greek. Was reading a lot of world news, as I tend to do.

sepe digital insight
Jul 4, 18 8:12 AM appended by Mr. Z
And, if you had any decent type of research skill set, you would have found the site instead of claiming it "doesn't exist". Classic "right wing" dismissive-avoidant.
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 4, 18 8:12 AM
@ DiseaseDiocese

Yes, DiseaseDiocese, I DID read the entire (antiquated [May, 2017]) article.* (We Liberals do that, rather than simply reading the grotesquely misinterpretive headlines of Right-Wing propaganda organs.)

As I said, it in no way finds that the media is biased against Trump. It DOES suggest that it pays too much attention to his behavior rather than to other news but, frankly, that's akin to suggesting that it overlook an engineer's daily train wrecks to focus ...more
By highhatsize (3604), East Quogue on Jul 3, 18 11:38 AM
President Trump !
By Undocumented Democrat (1683), southampton on Jul 3, 18 11:16 PM

Happy 4th of July to all.

Good ole' Dianne Feinstein last October launched into Amy Coney Barrett for being too Catholic, too dogmatic, too religious. Do you remember? I do. And the Democrats tell us they’re opposed to litmus tests?




Progressives Deploy Religious Ignorance and Bigotry to Stop Amy Coney Barrett
By DAVID FRENCH
July 2, 2018 2:48 PM


Efforts to block the highly qualified Barrett from the Supreme Court because of her ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 4, 18 12:07 AM
Very nice opinion peace by David French diseased. It does show that different people march to a different drummer. One thing I like about French is he was against trump, he does have a decent moral compass.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 4, 18 6:30 AM
As a conservative I love that the DNC is finally being transparent about what they really want in there alignment with socialist candidates and groups like Antifa who want open borders, to abolish I.C.E. and there complete disregard for the rule of law. This is what will drive the Red wave this November ...

Happy Birthday America

Keep America Safe, Strong, Tariff Free, and Great !
Jul 4, 18 6:36 AM appended by joe hampton
DNC CHAIR TOM PEREZ: SOCIALIST OCASIO-CORTEZ "THE FUTURE OF OUR PARTY"
By joe hampton (3121), The Hamptons on Jul 4, 18 6:36 AM
Zeldin is one of the most inept congressmen you could ask for. As a Trump lapdog he has zero credibility on immigration and forgets the fact that many trades people and business owner in NY-1 use these so-called "illegal immigrants" to the advantage of cheap labor. Lapdog Lee needs to go- he's also one of the least respected people in congress and is only used for votes by his more effective colleauges. Funny how he speaks of veterans all the time while sitting like a good pet next to a 5 time draft ...more
By sag631 (5), sag harbor on Jul 4, 18 6:55 AM
So are you for the use of these illegal immigrants, doing what you feel is "cheap labor" or opposed ? your rant seemed contradictory in its nature please clearly state you position ?
By 27dan (2365), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 4, 18 7:46 AM
Hey joe Hampton, reflect a little in people like congressman Steve king. A man who spouts and posts racist nonsense. The president, who’s in the same boat. John jelly , telling flat out lies. I could name many , many in your party who are reprehensible. Every party has its fringe dwellers, it makes coming together as a country that made us great. Both sides constantly denigrating each other doesn’t make us great. I’m with you on the losing tariff battle. Trump doesn’t have ...more
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 4, 18 7:56 AM
Glad to hear that because Trump wants free and fair trade... This is just the art of the deal so remember not to flip flop when " We" get what "We" want. ,, Have a wonderful holiday Fred.
By joe hampton (3121), The Hamptons on Jul 4, 18 1:25 PM
Joe Hampton, your the guy who called Obama a bicycle seat sniffing Muslim. How can anyone with any sense take anything you say seriously? Unless your 9 yrs old, I take anything you say with like 50 grains of salt.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 4, 18 2:37 PM
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Don't denigrate says the guy who denigrates. Come together says the guy who spouts nothing but divisiveness.

When a Leftist gets on a soap box and professes the virtues of unity, wanting us to come together, it means they seek nothing but unconditional surrender on their terms. Happy 4th of July! No thanks.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 4, 18 8:31 AM
Po Boy, you speak not from a soap box, but the roof of a giant box store. I never said you have to surrender your far right wing rhetoric, hang onto it. You will never be part of any kind of compromise. But I’m denigrating? I’m calling bs to all the nonsense you and your fellow posters . I agree with some of the stuff , like my bad grammar and spelling. Your political and social views, not you particularly, are so far right it’s laughable. Have a happy 4th
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 4, 18 8:50 AM
That's one hell of an olive branch you're offering Fred...more attacking. Far Right Wing rhetoric? LMAO. Oh please, do explain what makes me and my political and social views "far right wing." Maybe they just seem so far right, because, you are so far Left....hmmmm.

As Gen. Anthony McAuliffe said to the Germans when offered a surrender ultimatum.... to you I say....Nuts!
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 5, 18 7:07 AM
I said not you particularly. You debate fine.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 5, 18 9:33 PM
Zeldin is a puppet of the Right. He has no positions of his own. He does not represent the wishes of the people of his district.
We deserve better!
He must be replaced.
By fritzdaddy (27), southampton on Jul 4, 18 10:50 AM
Not so... he represents my wishes and i live in his district, He is awesome ! and must stay. you just don't like him and want to be over dramatic.
By 27dan (2365), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 5, 18 12:55 AM
BREAKING NEWS:

A crazy person has climbed on top of the Statue of Liberty. Is it Fred, or is it Mr Z? Is it hihatsize or is it ForeignBorn? Is it Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi? DeBlasio? Hillary? Nope..it's none of the above. But it IS another crazed liberal who forgot their meds this morning. What a shame. Disruptors, agitators...call them what you will. One thing is for sure...it's this type of behavior on the left that will most definitely re-elect trump and possibly keep the country ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 4, 18 5:37 PM
Right. And at the other end of the political spectrum the tactics are to get in your car, rev the engine and mow down anyone who you might disagree with - all in the quest to Make America Great Again!
By VOS (1104), WHB on Jul 5, 18 1:44 AM
She free climbed the base of the Statue of Liberty.

Say what you want, but something tells me most of you here couldn't climb a tree.
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 5, 18 6:55 AM
"And at the other end of the political spectrum the tactics are to get in your car, rev the engine and mow down anyone who you might disagree with"

Right. Or, more aptly, to attempt mass murder on GOP members of Congress.
By Po Boy (1971), Water Mill on Jul 6, 18 6:33 AM
Zeldin started trying to cover his ass after the huge public outcry against separating families. But he had no problem supporting it before that. Hmm.. could the upcoming election in November have something to so with his waffling?!?

By hamptonsfinds (3), sag harbor on Jul 4, 18 11:01 PM
A crazy person claimed the Statue of Liberty. A person. What about the tiki torch carrying racist neo Nazis that marched in Charlottesville? Where was your outrage then? My father belonged to a group that hunted down and killed Nazis, the us army in ww2. Now we have groups actively matching with no outrage from the right. Spare me the hand wringing over a person on the Statue of Liberty. Between the overt racism and lame accusations on here you have zero credibility.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 5, 18 8:57 AM
Is that what your father told you? And you believed it? Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!

By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 5, 18 10:33 AM
Your a fool diseased
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 5, 18 10:39 AM
If you want to say you are, shorten in to “you’re.”

If you want to show possession use “your”

This is an ongoing issue with your posts and I hope you’re not going to be angry. I’m helping your communication skills.
By even flow (704), East Hampton on Jul 6, 18 5:45 AM
Radio, TV Host Ed Schultz Dead at 64 / CAUSE OF DEATH SAME AS ALAN COMBS: TDS
By They call me (2369), southampton on Jul 6, 18 12:03 AM
Hey chim chim they call me, make sure to bend down when you crawl back under your rock you live under, you’ve obviously banged your head to many times.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 6, 18 5:27 AM
Thanks even flow for the correction, I’ll try to correct my grammar. Any way you can correct your nutty posts?
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 6, 18 6:45 AM
In addressing her supporters after her court appearance, Ms. Okoumou (the confirmed Nancy Union Tango) called the Trump administration’s zero-tolerance immigration policy “draconian,” and said, “No child belongs in a cage.”

But what the "clown" fails to mention is that Obama had children in cages during his administration too and moreover had the immigrant children detained along with human traffickers. "Obama's government placed an unknown number of Central ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 6, 18 3:08 PM
My response diseased is, a leopard can’t change its spots.you finally posted a story that is true. So why in the end do you applaud the children being separated now? If the point of posting this was to show outrage, show it. As to the women on the Statue of Liberty, it’s called civil disobedience. You are overreacting to one women.she had no gun, no weapon. She was protesting. No mobs shouting, Jews won’t replace us or blood and soil. If one women scares you, I don’t know ...more
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 6, 18 6:22 PM
Finally a coherent, non-judgemental answer Fred. Now I can say that we can agree to disagree. Only thing I will correct you on (if I may) is putting Police Officers lives at risk is not civil disobedience...it's anarchy. I'm all for peaceful protest but you cross the line when LEO's lives are in danger. I just don't like it. And I didn't like the redneck neo-nazi's in Charlottesville either (to respond to an earlier post). I didn't know 27east existed back then but if I did, I would've fully denounced ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 6, 18 10:58 PM
One person protesting is anarchy?
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 7, 18 7:55 AM
There are many noteworthy aspects to The Donald's recent speech in Montana. His mockery of the Me Too movement and his support of Vladimir Putin are the two getting the most press. But the one I liked best was his reference to Maxine Walters as a “low I.Q. individual”, thus demonstrating, once again, that Right-Wingers are clueless about IRONY.

Here's a suggestion, let's have Senator Warren have that DNA test that The Donald so vulgarly proposed, provide that HE have an IQ ...more
By highhatsize (3604), East Quogue on Jul 7, 18 10:09 AM
Apparently, using a car to kill or threaten to kill or hurt isn't just a right-wing thing. What does crazy, low IQ Maxine Waters think of this story especially after her calls for agitation and disruption:


A New York man nearly ran over a campaign volunteer at a Long Island congressman’s re-election headquarters Friday after threatening to kill supporters of the lawmaker and President Donald Trump, police said.

Martin Astrof, 75, was arrested outside his home shortly ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 7, 18 11:06 AM
@ DiseaseDiocese

Quote:

"Apparently, using a car to kill or threaten to kill or hurt isn't just a right-wing thing."
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Only one who is truly demented, whose rationality has been so degraded by prejudice as to be essentially nonexistent, could think that the incident in which a Right-Winger drove his car at speed into a crowd, killing one innocent woman and injuring 35 others - - - and the incident in which a Zeldin opponent backed his car ...more
By highhatsize (3604), East Quogue on Jul 7, 18 12:00 PM
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Hat are you a Muslim ?
By joe hampton (3121), The Hamptons on Jul 8, 18 10:26 AM
@ joe hampton

Haven't a clue what my religious belief has to do with the comment to which you are responding. However, since this is the second time that you have asked this (presumptuous) question in as many days, I will take it as an innocuous request for information rather than as a cynical implication that my opinions are biased by my creed.

I'm a stalwart, mainstream Christian.
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ON topic, I commend to ...more
By highhatsize (3604), East Quogue on Jul 8, 18 11:20 AM
Thank you for your response
By joe hampton (3121), The Hamptons on Jul 8, 18 12:38 PM
I just reread the constitution, and I simply cannot find where Planned Parenthood is involved in the Supreme Court nomination and confirmation process. Guess I should have taken Obama's constitutional law class...
By 27dan (2365), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 8, 18 10:44 AM
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I know that class. It's the class where Obama burns the flag and tosses the constitution in the garbage on the first day.
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 9, 18 5:55 PM
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Diseased, you flunked that class.
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 9, 18 6:10 PM
27dan , what constitutional law class did you take?
By Fred s (363), Southampton on Jul 8, 18 10:52 AM
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Bone Spur University
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 8, 18 9:28 PM
Hillary Clinton is up to something. Five times in the last month alone, she sent e-mails touting her super PAC’s role in combating President Trump. Most seized on headline events, such as the family-separation issue at the southern border.Is Hillary secretly planning to run in 2020 ?
By 27dan (2365), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 9, 18 12:01 AM
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Run? She can’t even walk.
By local 84 (322), riverhead on Jul 9, 18 12:07 AM
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"Hillary Clinton is up to something" - a Republican lullaby
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3312), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 7:19 AM
Tic toc tic toc tic toc. 32 minutes and counting until we get some major crocodile tears.
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 9, 18 8:28 PM
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“Elections have consequences.” It’s the political way for winners to tell losers: “Tough luck, you lost. Get over it.”

President Obama infamously espoused this view shortly after his 2009 inauguration, during a meeting with congressional Republicans about his economic proposals. Mr. Obama was later quoted as telling GOP leaders that “elections have consequences,” and, in case there was any doubt, “I won.”



Thank you ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (134), Riverhead on Jul 10, 18 6:46 PM
From Cameroon to US-Mexico border: 'We saw corpses along the way'

Kombo Yannick is one of the many African asylum seekers braving the longer Latin America route to the US.

By Walker Dawson, Caron Creighton, & Carlos Mureithi
20 Jun 2018


"They don't even lock you up," he said, referring to government soldiers who accused him of being a protester before he decided to leave.

"They just kill you. That's what happens. That's why I ran away."
By Mr. Z (10238), North Sea on Jul 10, 18 8:49 PM