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Jul 17, 2018 5:24 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Zeldin Weighs In On Trump's Remarks At Helsinki Summit

Jul 17, 2018 5:39 PM

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin, along with many other local and state lawmakers, rebuked President Donald Trump’s remarks at Monday’s summit and press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin at a summit in Helsinki and remained firm on his stance that he did not believe Mr. Putin’s claims that Russia had no involvement with the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

“It is important that President Trump met with Putin, America’s adversary, but opportunities like today much be better seized to tell the Russians to stay thousands of miles away from American elections. No exceptions,” Mr. Zeldin said in a statement released through his office.

At the press conference, Mr. Trump appeared to side with Mr. Putin regarding Russian meddling, despite U.S. intelligence that officials say points to Russia’s election interference, and the indictment of 12 Russian spies by the Justice Department on Friday.

At the media event following the summit, Mr. Trump said of Mr. Putin: “He just said it’s not Russia. I will say this: I don’t see any reason why it would be.”

Following criticism from multiple officials and politicians, many in his own party, on Monday afternoon and Tuesday morning, Mr. Trump said Tuesday that he had misspoken and meant to say, “I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be Russia.”

Mr. Zeldin, a Republican, sided with U.S. intelligence and said, “I don’t believe Putin’s denial. Russia is an adversary that should have no leeway to meddle.”

Mr. Zeldin also noted, however, that Mr. Trump’s meeting with Mr. Putin was important as it allowed for “a dialogue between our two countries on nuclear proliferation, Syria and North Korea,” but said, “We must remember who we are talking to.”

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Beware of sycophants in sheep's clothing. Zeldin is realizing that unquestioned loyalty to Putin's Puppet Trump will only result in his ouster from Congress. Be scared very scared Lee Zeldin the apologist for the neo nazis.
By V.Tomanoku (660), southampton on Jul 17, 18 5:56 PM
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I love guys like you who call everyone nazis. That's a very strong statement not to be used lightly. You only diminish your argument.
By lirider (241), Hampton Bays on Jul 17, 18 10:22 PM
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^^ You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Otherwise it only highlights your diminished intellectual capabilities.
By V.Tomanoku (660), southampton on Jul 17, 18 10:30 PM
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Neo nazis, you know like the ones in Charlottesville. The same group the traitor in chief said were good people.no one called anyone a Nazi.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 10:37 PM
Invoke the Nazis and you’ve lost the argument - Godwin's Law
By even flow (779), East Hampton on Jul 18, 18 8:22 AM
Are the guys chanting "blood and soil" not Nazis?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 18 8:35 AM
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You leftists who "evoke" nazis are in fact the new baby nazis.
Those on the right were the the Greatest Generation who defeated the real nazis.
By pw herman (1132), southampton on Jul 18, 18 8:46 AM
"It is not a better world when the President of the United States gives into racism and bigotry." William Johnson, 90 year-old Tuskegee Airman, WWII Veteran.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 18 8:54 AM
So you're saying you did not call someone a Nazi ? I'm confused .....
By Sturgis (462), Southampton on Jul 18, 18 9:41 AM
Tomanoku said "Lee Zeldin the apologist for the neo nazis."

Lee trumpeted the administration's "both sides" equivocation, so yes. He is an apologist for the neo nazis.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 18 9:51 AM
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All the Americans who fought in ww2 were on the right of the political spectrum?keep digging, you’ll bury yourself sooner then later.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 18, 18 10:02 AM
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You reek of pretentiousness. Just imagining your nose in the air, googling sycophant. Trump is enforcing laws, the economy is strong, speaking with leaders Obama didn't even get close to for 8 years, race riots, gay shootings from Muslim terrorists. Trump hires blacks, Jews, women in high profile positions. Yeah Neo-Nazi...
By lirider (241), Hampton Bays on Jul 18, 18 11:23 PM
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Is it pretentious to use three-syllable words? That would make calling things "pretentious" pretentious.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 19, 18 10:14 AM
I guess it’s me your calling pretentious? I can’t even spell it let alone be it. No one called anyone a Nazi. Read the comment, carefully. He said he’s an apologist for neo Nazis.ill admit I reek sometimes, generally after a day of work I smell a little gamey.as to trump, he’s your boy, keep praising him .
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 11:23 AM
oops.

She said, "neo nazi".
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 19, 18 9:17 PM
The lapdog’s squeaks are unimpressive. A ridiculously dainty response to Trump’s embarrassing and treasonous comments. And does anyone believe that Trump misspoke? Laughable and idiotic.
By harbor (366), East Hampton on Jul 17, 18 6:13 PM
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Yes he just misspoke for 40 minutes straight
By Pacman (188), Southampton on Jul 18, 18 10:20 AM
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How do we know what he talked about? I guess we will have to listen to the Russian tapes of the meeting. His explanation of his treasonous remarks was weak at best. Chief bullsh_ _ _er strikes again.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 7:24 PM
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Wow, short piece! The Honorable Lee, he knows how to get in and out fast when the topic is, shall we say, sensitive. Oh yeah, nothing to see here, and nothing to be gained by a lickspittle congressman nattering on when his boss has just screwed up big-time.

Still, let's give Little Lee some credit. This is about as far as he's ever gone in criticizing Big Donald. Ever, seriously.

You say you didn't exactly catch the criticism part? Well, it was vanishingly mild, and you did ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1868), Quiogue on Jul 17, 18 8:35 PM
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Park Ave Perry he is your man!
By Hamptonsway (25), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 8:41 PM
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Did that unprofessional, juvenile outburst help? You're going to need it.
By even flow (779), East Hampton on Jul 18, 18 8:23 AM
Vote early and vote often : )

By Aeshtron (150), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 9:56 PM
Fyi, we'll be able to vote early in NYS starting in 2019!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 18 9:23 AM
Don't forget to buy a voting machine with no air gap and PCAnywere installed!!

Yeah, that happened...
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 19, 18 9:22 PM
Pipe down Little Lee. You had your chance. Time to start looking at retirement property in Jerusalem.
By johnj (895), Westhampton on Jul 18, 18 9:06 AM
Why Jerusalem ?
By Sturgis (462), Southampton on Jul 18, 18 10:31 AM
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Because he seems to like spending all of his time there rather than listening to the pleas of his local constituents. Thought that was pretty obvious, but I guess I need to spell it out for the peanut gallery.
By johnj (895), Westhampton on Jul 18, 18 2:49 PM
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They can't help but show their anti-semitism.....
By Taz (488), East Quogue on Jul 18, 18 10:46 AM
Anti-semitism used to mean a prejudice and open hostility toward the Jewish religion and people.

Now it just means not being Israel-first.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 18 11:55 AM
If you saw how many bagels I consume regularly, you'd know I haven't an anti-semitic bone in my body.
By johnj (895), Westhampton on Jul 19, 18 4:15 PM
So FBHG now you’re reinventing the definition of anti Semitism ????
That’s rich.
And tell me ...who is putting Israel first ?
By Biba (486), East Hampton on Jul 18, 18 2:12 PM
Then explain to me: how is johnj's comment anti-semitic? How does it demonstrate prejudice or open hostility toward the Jewish religion or people?

In johnj's comment clearly Zeldin is Israel-first. I don't necessarily agree with the comment, but I definitely disagree with its characterization as anti-semitic.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 18 2:20 PM
johnj is only making these comments because :

A. Zeldin is Jewish
B. Zeldin supports Israel
By Biba (486), East Hampton on Jul 19, 18 10:50 AM
Zeldin is Jewish? Are you in johnj's head?

He explained his reasoning above, and though "all of his time" sounds like hyperbole, we should take his word absent evidence to the contrary, no?

Is there any other instance where you believe johnj was "anti-semitic"?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 19, 18 11:04 AM
FBHG,
Are you asking me if Zeldin is Jewish ? And I've read enough of johnj's posts to know what's in his head. Just as I know what's in your head and my personal favorite HHS. Are you going to tell me you don't know what's in MY head.....come on now.....keep it real. This disingenuous act on your part is ridiculous.....
By Biba (486), East Hampton on Jul 19, 18 12:44 PM
I had no idea Zeldin was Jewish, nor do I care.

Can you teach me how to get in people's heads? That's not a skill I possess. That's why many of my replies end in question marks.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 19, 18 12:51 PM
@ Taz & Biba & Slime Alive & Sturgis

Zeldin's role as water-carrier for the Likud Party is well-documented.

It is hardly anti-Semitism to call attention to it.

Would that he showed a fraction of the interest in East Enders that he shows for Likudniks.
By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 18, 18 6:16 PM
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I'd love to hear Lee's thoughts on us handing over US nationals to a hostile foreign power for interogation.
By Pacman (188), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 10:27 AM
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FAKE NEWS! No handing over US Nationals to Russia was ever discussed. Russia asked to come here for questioning of US Nationals as a balance for letting Mueller go to Russia for questioning Russians. TDS!
By Taz (488), East Quogue on Jul 19, 18 11:52 AM
And the White House is seriously considering it, don't forget that part.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 19, 18 12:00 PM
“There was some conversation about it” between Trump and Putin - straight from Huckabee herself.
By Pacman (188), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 3:36 PM
To johnj...

I must remind myself that sarcasm does not translate well through text. Yes I know EXACTLY why you mentioned Jerusalem....He seems to like spending all his time there ? Do you have an idea as to how many times he's been ? I'm curious. Thanks, I will eagerly wait for your reply.

To HHS
You're a riot ! Defending anti Semitism with more anti Semitism !!! You're offended because a JEWISH congressman supports one of our only allies in the region....
Then there ...more
By Sturgis (462), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 12:00 PM
I'm sorry you have a problem with others enlightening you on the meaning of the post you asked about. The meaning was fairly clear to most readers and Tomanoku is free to correct me if necessary.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 19, 18 12:06 PM
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No....just stop. I know your MO .... You don't enlighten, you bully. Of course it's clear ...again I personally made the mistake of using sarcasm in a text form.
Jul 19, 18 12:32 PM appended by Sturgis
I did not ask YOU I asked someone else. As per usual YOU answered on someone else's behalf. And I've made accurate observations.
By Sturgis (462), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 12:32 PM
You asked a question and I answered it. The rest is just your projection.
Jul 19, 18 12:40 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I don't see anything wrong with responding to public replies, even if they were not originally directed at me. I won't bother going through your post history right now, but I don't think you do either.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 19, 18 12:40 PM
To call fore a bully is the most ludicrous thing I’ve ever read. Go look at his posting history, I don’t think you can find one post where he’s bullied anyone. He’s one of the nicest debaters on this site. You may not like his politics, but bully, no.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 1:37 PM
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I don't like to think of myself as a bully, but Sturgis is probably still a little sore about the time I wouldn't stop asking him to elaborate on his conspiracy theories surrounding the Parkland shooting and some of the deputies who refused to enter the building having given firearms training at a mosque at some point prior.

I never did make out what he was alluding to...
Jul 19, 18 1:58 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Rather than "bully" I think I'd call myself persistent, relentless, and at times a sanctimonious know-it-all.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 19, 18 1:58 PM
Fore, he’s a she
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 2:06 PM
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Fore1gnBornHBgrown has captured my sentiments and interpreted them so well that I feel no need to add to what they've posted...:)
By V.Tomanoku (660), southampton on Jul 19, 18 8:26 PM
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To HHS who says he is a devout Christian....Jesus never taught hate. BTW, Jesus was a Jew.
By Taz (488), East Quogue on Jul 19, 18 12:09 PM
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Per the latter, so?

Buddha never taught hate either. Nor did الله.
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 19, 18 9:40 PM
Would Congressman Zeldin enlighten us on what the discussions accomplished regarding Syria, a country where Russians attacked our troops?
By Greg129 (5), East Quogue on Jul 19, 18 3:01 PM
Terrible he said. Then the Suffolk weasel said but it's important for the Traitor-in-Chief to commit treason. Gershon for Congrss!
By Jolly Roger (18), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 9:08 PM
@ Sturgis

Quote:

"To HHS
You're a riot ! Defending anti Semitism with more anti Semitism !!! You're offended because a JEWISH congressman supports one of our only allies in the region...."
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Doubly false.

If one of our Catholic congressmen bent his knee before the Pope as often as Lee has done before Bibi, I would criticize him just as vehemently. The Honorable One's avid support of everything Likud is especially galling ...more
By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 20, 18 6:00 AM
Look, you’ve been defending charges of being an anti-semite for years Perhaps it’s time for some self introspection.
By SlimeAlive (971), Southampton on Jul 20, 18 6:09 AM
"Self introspection" is a redundant phrase.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 20, 18 8:04 AM
Democrats have spent the last 4 years telling us that a wealthy NYC real estate businessman with no political experience doesn’t not make a viable candidate - now all of a sudden Park Avenue Perry, the NYC real estate businessman, is a fabulous candidate.
By SlimeAlive (971), Southampton on Jul 20, 18 6:05 AM
For starters slime, trumps been a smuck his entire life. Beating working people out of money, no morals , on top of being the biggest liar anywhere. Two people who made their money the same way. One , by getting a giant leg up by his father, the other doing it on his own. The only thing these two people have in common is they both breath air. Trumps a liar,traitor , low moral slime ball( used your name in there to make you feel good)who has no moral compass. So good luck with the comparison.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 20, 18 6:20 AM
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You & Whoopi got that Trump Derangement Syndrome going strong.
By pw herman (1132), southampton on Jul 20, 18 7:35 AM
Trump derangement syndrome is a thing invented by trump supporters to make trumps moral misgivings seem normal. Keep believing.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 20, 18 7:44 AM
You don't need to have a medical condition to disagree with POTUS.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 20, 18 8:05 AM
I'll take America first over a limousine liberal any day .
By bigfresh (3737), north sea on Jul 20, 18 6:36 AM
The President who cried "wolf".

Lost out on the oldest lessons you did...
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 20, 18 10:32 PM
You take trump, your complicit in his nonsense. You followed his birther lead. You follow a man with no sense of right or wrong. Good luck. Hot news flash, we are all Americans. The difference, you follow a traitor and national disgrace, I don’t.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 20, 18 6:45 AM
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Number of Democrats who voted for tax cuts - 0
Number of Democrats who voted to abolish ICE - 180
By even flow (779), East Hampton on Jul 20, 18 8:19 AM
What vote to abolish ICE? Speaker Ryan scrapped any vote on legislation.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 20, 18 8:41 AM
The vote last Wednesday.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 23, 18 8:21 AM
What vote?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 23, 18 8:27 PM
The vote two Wednesdays ago.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 27, 18 8:00 PM
What was that vote for?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 27, 18 8:02 PM
Related to the topic in this thread.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 29, 18 1:32 PM
So you don't know?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 29, 18 1:36 PM
@ SlimeAlive

The S.O.P. of Israelophile defenders of the IDF's murderous depravity is that its critics are all anti-Semites.

This tactic is often effective since to be called an anti-Semite is to be linked with the premiere anti-Semites of modern times, the Nazis, who murdered millions in the support of their insane bigotry. It is usually enough to make decent people keep shtum. Who, after all, wants their otherwise pleasant life to be complicated by accusations of degeneracy? ...more
By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 20, 18 9:31 AM
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks..."
By SlimeAlive (971), Southampton on Jul 21, 18 8:24 AM
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks..."
By SlimeAlive (971), Southampton on Jul 21, 18 8:24 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By Sturgis (462), Southampton on Jul 20, 18 10:08 AM
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I think they called themselves Palestinians because they are.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 20, 18 10:19 AM
No, they're Arabs from Jordan, Syria ,Egypt. In The region NAMED Palestine , prior to 1948 existed Arab Palestinians and Jewish Palestinians no Palestinian Palestinians. It's clear you don't know the factual history of the region.
Between 1948-1967 when Jordan illegally occupied Judea and Samaria and Egypt had control of Gaza not ONE attempt was made by Arabs to create a state for their brethren.
By Biba (486), East Hampton on Jul 20, 18 10:33 AM
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Are Palestinian and Arab/Jewish mutually exclusive?

Isn't Palestinian a nationality while Arab/Jewish describes their ethnicity?

Can you teach me to read minds yet?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 20, 18 10:58 AM
By that definition many Jewish Palestinians were refugees as well. Where's the outcry over them?
By Taz (488), East Quogue on Jul 20, 18 11:18 AM
They are equally deserving of a Palestinian homeland, are they not?

The PLO charter identifies them as Palestinian, after all.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 20, 18 11:29 AM
Biba, I wasn’t being a wise guy trying to stir things up. Why do they call it the Palestinian peace plan? All the peace initiatives have Israel and Palestine.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 20, 18 11:31 AM
FBHG

If you knew what the conflict was REALLY about you would then understand that peace is IMPOSSIBLE. The fact is, Arabs REFUSE to accept Israel's right to exist. This is the ONLY impediment to peace in the region !!!

The Arabs had the chance for a state in 1948 and approximately 6 more times after that in the past 70 years. Spare me the "good or bad" deal garbage as well....please. The very FACT that they ATTACKED the reborn state of Israel DAY ONE tells most rational people ...more
By Biba (486), East Hampton on Jul 20, 18 12:24 PM
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No doubt peaceful coexistence should be a precondition to any peace deal.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 20, 18 1:32 PM
Fred: you’re parroting the alt left talking points , you used to be sensible in your comments here.
By bigfresh (3737), north sea on Jul 20, 18 10:43 AM
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There is no alt left, you guys have that locked down with alt right. I wasn’t parroting , I thought they were called Palestinians.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 20, 18 11:37 AM
I was referring to your comment calling President Trump a traitor, all the rage on the left leaning , alt left sites the last few days.
By bigfresh (3737), north sea on Jul 20, 18 5:02 PM
Seems you missed all the Republicans calling him a traitor as well.

Who's your favorite right wing bat guano psycho radio host?
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 20, 18 10:27 PM
For example?
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 22, 18 12:30 PM
Like I said, up until Helsinki I referred to him as trump or the president.after his performance with Putin, I had enough. There is something going on with him. I know the right likes his “not a normal politician “ stuff. It’s just too much now . Bashing NATO , attacking Teresa may and calling it fake news. Even tho the interview was recorded and he still denied it. The lame a_ _ retraction of would and wouldn’t. He’s playing the whole country for a bunch of fools. ...more
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 20, 18 5:15 PM
Or as kellyanne conway might say :"Its not treason. Its alternative loyalty."
By V.Tomanoku (660), southampton on Jul 20, 18 8:51 PM
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NATO has been scamming us for decades by not paying their fair share, President Trump just called them on it. While he is at times brash and a tool, a lot of jobs need a tool to get it done! He is unabashedly pro America First and that's a refreshing change from our former president Barak Hussein Obamas' apology tour and foreign policy disasters. We will have to agree to disagree.
By bigfresh (3737), north sea on Jul 20, 18 5:38 PM
Well, let's just see how the trade war fosters the people come Fall...
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 22, 18 12:42 AM
If and when it fails, they'll find a way to blame Obama.
By Pacman (188), Southampton on Jul 22, 18 1:19 PM
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Agreed
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 20, 18 5:42 PM
@ Biba

The foundation of Israel was a crime against the Arabs. A foreign power (the Brits) decreed that the land which the Arabs and their ancestors had occupied for over a thousand years was now to be the homeland of European Jews. Is it a surprise that they are pissed? (It couldn't happen today. Our western consciousness of our Eurocentric, paternalistic bias has been raised in the decades since the end of WWII - - - but it flew THEN. After all, who were the Arabs, a bunch of camel ...more
By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 21, 18 5:18 AM

Russians meddle in the election in 2016

President - obama
Head of CIA - john brennan
National Intelligence Dir - James Clapper
Head of FBI- mueller then comey

Leftist logic 2018- It’s all Trump’s fault.
By even flow (779), East Hampton on Jul 21, 18 6:11 AM
Mueller was head of the FBI in 2016? That's news to me.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 21, 18 7:36 AM
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Yes. Comey took over from Mueller. Every syllable of that post was accurate. And the readers know it. So does the resident anti-Semite.

You’re all hypocrites.
By even flow (779), East Hampton on Jul 21, 18 8:06 AM
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Fake news. Mueller left the FBI in 2013.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 21, 18 8:15 AM
You might not want to throw too many stones, your glass house my come shattering down.you’re all hypocrites, you’re priceless. Always be you.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 21, 18 10:12 AM
Death to the Left.
Jul 21, 18 11:13 AM appended by pw herman
THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING
By pw herman (1132), southampton on Jul 21, 18 11:13 AM
And a long & happy life to you, PW.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 21, 18 4:39 PM
You gotta ask yourself, what goes thru a persons mind, when he posts on a public comment section of a local paper, death to the left.im baffled.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 21, 18 5:08 PM
Baffled is what you could only hope to aspire to.
Jul 21, 18 7:36 PM appended by pw herman
ITS A LONG WAY UP FOR YOU FROM WAY DOWN THERE.
By pw herman (1132), southampton on Jul 21, 18 7:36 PM
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"You’re all hypocrites."

Yes they are even flow...yes, they are.

By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 21, 18 7:50 PM
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Thanks for the hateful rhetoric.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 21, 18 7:53 PM
You seem to have a problem comprehending exactly what’s going on.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 21, 18 6:54 AM
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I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain it to you.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 22, 18 10:27 AM
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Getting back to the headline, Lee Zeldin's response was WEAK, LAME, and did not go FAR ENOUGH to condemn Donald Trump for his performance at the Helsinki summit. Lee Zeldin is an apologist for this president. Time for a congressperson with a BACKBONE who has the guts to speak the truth.
Vote this wash-rag out in November.
WE DESERVE BETTER!!
By fritzdaddy (29), southampton on Jul 21, 18 8:06 AM
HHS

A crime against the Arabs , not the "Palestinians" ? Make up your mind HHS...
Either way no crime was committed. It's a misconception among many about Israel ,that the region was completely void of Jews. It was not. Jews lived there for thousands of years as well. Fun fact...they were there first.

Arabs are not "pissed" because of Jews and Israel . They're pissed because they suffer while Abbas chills in his 13 million $$ mansion ....
They've been used as pawns for ...more
Jul 21, 18 10:28 AM appended by Biba
Again there is NOTHING ILLEGAL about the rebirth of Israel !!!
By Biba (486), East Hampton on Jul 21, 18 10:28 AM
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Little Lee - So you'll be getting an invite to the WH when the midget Russian shows up in October to help Ole Pudding Face have Summit #2. Maybe you and
Pooty can find those three miilion votes that went missing for The Donald in 2016. And as Top NRA $$ receiver, maybe you and the Shirtless Stallion can tell
us which foreign country contributed $55 million to the NRA? And lastly, was that
Madame Butina we saw giving out copies of Lyin Sean Spicer's book at your fundraiser? Yeah, we thought ...more
By allpeoplecount (24), eastport on Jul 21, 18 5:11 PM
101 Comments.

Have we learned anything?
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 22, 18 12:40 AM
I personally don't think the public stage combined with the show-biz-like atmosphere at Helsinki's joint press conference was neither the time nor place for comment by POTUS on Russia's alleged meddling, whether it be denying it ever happened or calling Putin out on it. If Trump were to have publicly called Putin out on Russia's meddling/interference, it could potentially de-legitimitize his electoral win and presidency. Foreign electoral intervention, whether it be covert or overt, is both common ...more
By SDG1776 (103), Southampton on Jul 22, 18 6:10 AM
The Russians were complicit in rigging the election with an infusion of American money. To draw a comparison would be to say the trump campaign was involved with the Russians.. you might want to rethink the comparison.the common denominator both have in common is Putin put his candidate in office both times.dont forget the show biz atmosphere is what trump adores.thats exactly why trump never called Putin out, his election was bolstered by Putin.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 22, 18 6:50 AM
So at 6:10 parrot #1 started ranting about a “show-biz atmosphere”. 20 minutes later, you’re here ranting about a “show-biz atmosphere”

Huh.
By even flow (779), East Hampton on Jul 22, 18 6:58 AM
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The timestamps show 40 minutes.

Fail.
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 22, 18 5:00 PM
Do you see the irony of your post? Of course you don’t.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 22, 18 7:38 AM
Fred, I did make mention of both covert and overt interference, and agree with you that the '96 election interference was both complicit and overt, with possible covert contingencies had it gone the other direction. I'd also have to agree with you that Trump's election was in fact bolstered by Putin and that is probably why Trump didn't publicly call him out on it, because it would de-legitimitize his electoral win to a degree. I didn't understand the irony comment in your post. Was that in ...more
By SDG1776 (103), Southampton on Jul 22, 18 8:09 AM
Sorry SDG, my reply was to even flows remark. Your post was well thought out. All good
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 22, 18 8:52 AM
If hillary won, the left would have accepted the results and moved on. They would not have been the slightest bit interested in Russia or collusion. Obama knew all about it and did nothing. His lack of knowledge about Americans and his misplaced trust is liberal pollsters gave him a false sense of security about hillary's chances.
By SlimeAlive (971), Southampton on Jul 22, 18 8:40 AM
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Man....... SHP you people......????

I'm redlined for telling the TRUTH about the conflict in the ME but it's all good to accuse the IDF of wantonly killing "Palestinians" ......
Sick S&*T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
By Sturgis (462), Southampton on Jul 22, 18 1:56 PM
@ Sturgis

You were redlined for personal aspersions, Sturgis.

I understand your anger, though. The Press is so lenient in the smears that it permits you and your fellow Israeli apologists to include in your every post that those rare occasions on which you are actually censored must really infuriate you.

It had nothing to do with your tedious, insubstantiatable propaganda.
By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 22, 18 4:40 PM
Nope ,you're wrong.......again.
By Sturgis (462), Southampton on Jul 23, 18 8:50 AM
WSJ/NBC Poll: Trump’s Approval Climbs Despite Russia Hype

I’m surprised WSJ/NBC released a poll favorable to the President.
I’m sure someone will be fired tomorrow.

President Donald Trump yielded a 45 percent approval rating in the latest joint Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll carried out between July 15th and 18th. His approval is up one percentage point from June and is at its highest point relative to previous polls of presidential approval jointly conducted ...more
By 27dan (2458), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 22, 18 10:50 PM
Calling my fellow Republicans: Trump is clearly unfit to remain in office

By Christine Todd Whitman
JUL 22, 2018 | 4:10 AM


President Trump’s disgraceful performance in Helsinki, Finland, and in the days since is an indication that he is not fit to remain in office. Trump’s 2016 “America First” platform might be more aptly named “Russia First” after the disaster that occurred last week.

Trump’s turn toward Russia is indefensible. ...more
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 23, 18 3:07 AM
Why don’t you put all the numbers from the poll? You cherry pick the number you like, disregarding all the rest. Typical
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 23, 18 5:01 AM
“Treason” narrative falls flat on its face
USA Today online - JULY 23, 2018

President Trump Hits Highest Approval Rating Ever In WSJ/NBC Poll
GETTY IMAGES.

President Donald Trump has hit his highest approval rating ever in Wall Street Journal and NBC News’ latest poll, despite unprecedented negative media coverage.
By Ditch Bum (565), Water Mill on Jul 23, 18 7:32 AM
Japan attacks Pearl Harbor - FDR declares WAR!
Osama attacks US - George W declares WAR ON TERROR!
Russia attacks US Election - Orange Man does NOTHING!
The DT -weak on national security; his acolyte, Little Lee - VERY weak on national security! Dump Little Lee!
By allpeoplecount (24), eastport on Jul 23, 18 7:28 AM
UNHINGED!!!
By bigfresh (3737), north sea on Jul 23, 18 5:48 PM
Bigfresh, don’t say that about trump.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 23, 18 5:52 PM
Another Simple Fred
By pw herman (1132), southampton on Jul 23, 18 6:32 PM
Actually no proof has been brought forward other than unsubstantiated msm pedegogery. The disrespect shown by the left for President Trump far exceeds that received by Obama and more than the hostility shown to Bush even though he was a RINO. The gutter level name calling, personal insults, misleading media stories and out right lies from the left have reached a new and vulgar low. But the President and the Nation are winning in spite of all the whining.
By They call me (2453), southampton on Jul 23, 18 7:29 AM
It must be nice to live in an alternate univese.
By tenn tom (199), remsenburg on Jul 23, 18 7:33 AM
Sworn in on the Kuran , only in America can this happen , due to the PC communist idiots in DC John Brennan: Communist, Radical Wahhabi Islamist Convert, Liar, Enemy of The USA...

How did he get confirmed as CIA Director...
More pertinent to today: Why does he still hold a top security clearance?

As does:
Hillary
Clapper
Comey
Page
Strozck
Susan Rice -
courtesy of & including
H.R. McMaster
Jul 23, 18 7:40 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Ask him under oath if he and the CIA knew that the Secretary of State Hillary, was using an unsecured illegal secret server from her basement to send and recieve top secret messages with the President and others. If he did know that is treason and if he didnt know then the CIA is a useless, incompetent organization.
By Undocumented Democrat (1758), southampton on Jul 23, 18 7:40 AM
He was sworn in on a copy of the constitution. Can anyone of you clowns put anything that’s true? I know, it’s not in your makeup.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 23, 18 8:06 AM
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By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 23, 18 10:41 PM
President Donald Trump is considering revoking the security clearances from former intelligence officials who served under former President Barack Obama, according to White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders.

“Not only is the president looking to take away Brennan’s security clearance, he’s also looking into the clearances of Comey, Clapper, Hayden, Rice, and McCabe,” Sanders said during the White House press briefing.
By 27dan (2458), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 24, 18 12:12 AM
The president has thin skin. Maybe jail for those people who disagree with the president is next. Somebody ought to tell him he’s the president, not a 13 yr old girl on Twitter.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 24, 18 5:02 AM
Given your feelings toward the President, did you just insult 13 yr old girls?
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 24, 18 7:36 AM
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The “President “ is an insult to the whole country. No insult to 13 yr. old girls, just a comparison.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 24, 18 7:48 AM
Another Simple fred
By pw herman (1132), southampton on Jul 24, 18 9:19 AM
@ Undocumented Democrat:

Some of the Central American supporters of Right-Wing dictatorships in the '80s who were expelled by their countrymen when those regimes fell were given sanctuary in the United States. They were allowed to skip the normal immigration vetting process by the Reagan administration which saw them as ideological soul mates. Unfortunately, that policy resulted in citizenship being offered to a lot of folks whose politics were actually just a manifestation of their defining ...more
By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 23, 18 9:17 AM
Thanks, I should have looked a little deeper.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 23, 18 9:40 AM
I was taking about communist's like Brennan allowing idiots such as Ellison

Quran oath controversy of the 110th United States Congress

Keith Ellison, the first Muslim ever elected to the United States Congress (as a representative for Minnesota's 5th congressional district), took his oath of office with his hand on the Qur'an. you can read about it In , Dennis Pragers column titled "America, not Keith Ellison, decides what book a Congressman takes his oath on.
By Undocumented Democrat (1758), southampton on Jul 23, 18 9:58 AM
Why is Ellison an idiot? Can you explain yourself? All your facts about Brennan is from old glen beck shows, he’s thin on facts but fat on bs.explain in depth why it was a controversy, I’d like to hear it.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 23, 18 10:14 AM
Lyin Little Lee gets a bleet from Lyin Cheatin Donnie" NRA "Jr. Good deal, Let's see if DJ can get him anymore of that Russian NRA money? Woops, did we
spill the beans Little Lyin Lee?
1. Lyin Lee voted against our health care.
2. Lyin Lee has done nothing to reunite babies on the border (suntan at Montauk instead.)
3. Lyin Lee will get us killed with his backing of dumb NRA policies.
By allpeoplecount (24), eastport on Jul 23, 18 3:56 PM
UNHINGED!!!
By bigfresh (3737), north sea on Jul 24, 18 6:24 AM
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Yes, yes the President appears to be.

Liar. In. Chief.
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 25, 18 4:05 AM
@ Ditch Bum:

Quote:

"President Donald Trump has hit his highest approval rating ever in Wall Street Journal and NBC News’ latest poll, despite unprecedented negative media coverage"
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What you "neglected" to note is that the WSJ/NBC poll is NOT the latest poll. The MOST RECENT POLL, the Gallup Poll (which ended Sunday, June 22nd, four days after the WSJ/NBC poll) found Trump's approval rating DOWN 3 points since ...more
By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 23, 18 5:19 PM
Comparing polls, let alone polls during different time frames - June at that, is ludicrous - even for you.



By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 23, 18 7:34 PM
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There is no stupid, quite like the modern "conservative" level of stupid.
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 23, 18 10:42 PM
Actually you level up over the top.
By Bayman3142 (181), Southampton on Jul 24, 18 11:31 PM
For the intellectually challenged:

CO2 + H2O = carbonic acid


Fish lose sense of smell and ability to find food as climate change turns oceans to acid

There is a growing body of evidence about the dangers ocean acidification poses to marine life

By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 23, 18 10:50 PM
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By Bayman3142 (181), Southampton on Jul 24, 18 11:34 PM
Seawater achieving it's lowest pH level in approximately 14 million years.

Lower pH also causes a lack of carbonate ions crustaceans and mollusks use to build their shells.

Good luck, "bayman"...

By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 25, 18 4:11 AM
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By Bayman3142 (181), Southampton on Jul 25, 18 10:46 AM
American workers at Banner Metals in Columbus, Ohio are applauding President Trump’s fair trade agenda, saying that when it comes to trade, the “U.S. has been taken advantage of for too long.”
In interviews with the New York Times, American steel workers at Banner Metals — which distributes metals — said they support Trump’s fair trade agenda
By 27dan (2458), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 24, 18 12:10 AM
Po Boy

Quote:

"Comparing polls, let alone polls during different time frames - June at that, is ludicrous - even for you."
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[June] 22nd is obviously a typo. It should read JULY 22nd, as all but the intellectually torpid realize from the context.

Now that your dim misconception has been corrected, will you continue to espouse your inane professed belief?
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@ ...more
By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 24, 18 1:32 AM
Obviously? I stand corrected.

Comparing polls, let alone polls during different time frames - when you can't even get the basic facts straight, is ludicrous - even for you.

By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 24, 18 7:21 AM
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You can’t keep a daily score of the feelings of 300 million people. Favorability polls are phony. Trump is wildly popular. So is Zeldin
By even flow (779), East Hampton on Jul 24, 18 6:52 AM
Even flow, so all your fellow posters saying trump is doing great in the polls are wrong? You can’t have it both ways. I do agree with you that trump is wildly incoherent, that’s true. As for your boy Zeldin, we will see.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 24, 18 7:06 AM
The "fellow posters saying trump is doing great in the polls" aren't necessarily wrong, they simply capable of taking the results in context in light of those who disingenuously rewrite statements regarding polling overall conclusions and those who can't get basic facts correct.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 24, 18 7:35 AM
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Po Boy, in general the right wing posters on here post false or completely misleading statements most of the time. The majority of my posts are calling posters on the bs they post.you are basically saying the right wing posters are always right, which is patently false.ill give you this, you debate the whole concealed carry thing good, whether you are right or wrong, I don’t have a clue.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 24, 18 7:46 AM
I'm calling BS Fred. Mostly, what's posted by those "right wing posters" is accurate and reflective of opinions. What you are correcting is your disagreement with those opinions and the facts as presented. What YOU are failing to see is those posts as they are presented - are at minimum, often true. But more importantly opinions are neither right, nor wrong, which IS patently true.

Case in point, even flow's post on recent polls was patently true and reflective of his opinion. It was countered ...more
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 24, 18 8:27 AM
Po Boy, not really close. If it’s an opinion, don’t say it’s a fact. It’s simple as that. When someone posts a fact that’s wrong , I call them on it . When someone posts an opinion and calls it fact , I call them on it. I’m not opposed to differences of opinion. I’m opposed to an opinion passed as fact. Me saying the “ president “ is a traitor is my lame opinion, I’m not passing it off as fact. Big difference. Like I said false and misleading ...more
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 24, 18 8:42 AM
@ Po Boy

Quote:

"Comparing polls, let alone polls during different time frames - when you can't even get the basic facts straight, is ludicrous - even for you."
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You simply repeat your ignorant belief rather than make any attempt at supporting it, the s.o.p. of every Right-Wing true believer on this forum whenever his baseless opinions are challenged.

Alternatively, you COULD pretend that you aren't completely enthralled ...more
By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 24, 18 9:07 AM
Fred, people have opinions. Events form the basis for facts. The two can be present.

Likewise, when you take a reference to trump being "wildy popular" based on fact (he is among his base and the polling entities speak to that) and rephrase it to, "I do agree with you that trump is wildly incoherent, that’s true," you're no better than those you accuse, and one would suggest, even worse give the blatant intent to misrepresent the original statement.
Jul 24, 18 9:29 AM appended by Po Boy
hat, I do believe my time can be better spent that justifying the merits of comparing apples to oranges as you've disingenuously requested.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 24, 18 9:29 AM
Apples and oranges aside, this is interesting hat. "WHY do you think that comparing polls is ludicrous?" Let's start here to explore the wonderful world of statistical validity.

'Fraud': Mainstream polls use 29% more Democrats than Republicans
by Paul Bedard. | September 22, 2017 11:04 AM




By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 24, 18 11:33 AM
Po Boy, I know. If you have a fact, back it up with a citation from a reputable news source. Otherwise it’s a opinion.when I rephrased the comment, it was tongue in cheek.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 24, 18 10:40 AM
"Reputable news source?"

LMAO. Given the sad state of the corrupt media and perpetuation and drum beat of constant Fake News, you've got to be kidding.

Let the negotiations begin on "Reputable news sources." I'm guessing, we won't have agreement on the "facts" there, either.

By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 24, 18 3:57 PM
You win, I’d rather talk to a rock.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 24, 18 4:02 PM
You never have facts, wild opinions that don’t add up
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 24, 18 4:03 PM
Says the guy who says he's "not opposed to differences of opinion."

What would be an example of one of these never have facts, and wild opinions that don't add up? I'm thinking that sentiment is just BS to cover for the fact that you have issue with opinion you don't agree with, and facts are inconsequential. Would a good example be me posting this weeks poll that the majority say Democrat candidates are out of step with most American's thinking?

By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 24, 18 9:18 PM
Networks' coverage of Trump immigration policy 92% negative...
DENVER POST Runs Letter to Editor Suggesting Trump Should Be Executed...

the left has declared war on America.
By SlimeAlive (971), Southampton on Jul 24, 18 11:04 AM
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Poll: Majority Say Dem Candidates ‘Out of Step’ With Most Americans’ Thinking - In 2016 plurality of respondents said Dems 'generally mainstream'

A majority of respondents in a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll of registered voters said Democratic congressional candidates are out of step with most Americans with 56 percent saying they are "out of step" - a change from 2016 when "only" 42 percent of respondents said Democratic congressional candidates were out of step. ...more
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 24, 18 11:28 AM
2 yr old poll? Is it relevant after seeing trump in action?
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 24, 18 12:10 PM
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There's that disingenuous misdirection again.

July 15-18, 2018. Extremely relevant.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 24, 18 12:52 PM
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Take Trump out of the equation if you like. The fact remains that the Democrats have no platform, no message, no candidate. What is their platform?
By Undocumented Democrat (1758), southampton on Jul 24, 18 6:51 PM
Just ask Fred, He will tell you...

Tax hikes, open borders, socialism and free stuff !

By joe hampton (3185), The Hamptons on Jul 24, 18 7:03 PM
For starters an economic policy that benefits everybody, not just the highest earners.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 25, 18 10:04 AM
African American unemployment is currently the lowest ever recorded. Your tired playbook is 80+ years old. GDP is growing faster than in a decade, wages are up, bonuses are up, the stock market is up and you got anything else?
Jul 25, 18 10:09 AM appended by SlimeAlive
yes, tax cuts actually benefit those who pay taxes. that's a fact. you ever hear of tax cuts that benefit people who don't pay taxes?
By SlimeAlive (971), Southampton on Jul 25, 18 10:09 AM
Wealth disparity, commodity prices, and market volatility are also up.

The Trump Tax Cuts overwhelmingly benefited the highest earners, that's a fact.
Jul 25, 18 11:01 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Why are you OK with gains for the top 1% being taken from deductions that predominantly benefit middle-class people?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 25, 18 11:01 AM
UMMM, those paying the most in taxes should see the most relief in any tax reductions. There's nothing wrong with 'income disparity" in the real world , there will always be those who do better than others, that's life.
By bigfresh (3737), north sea on Jul 25, 18 8:51 PM
Eighty two percent of the wealth generated worldwide last year went to the richest one percent. There's nothing inherently wrong with wealth disparity, but some people have a problem with rapidly increasing concentration at the top.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 25, 18 9:21 PM
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By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 25, 18 9:31 PM
Test tube world.
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 26, 18 9:35 PM
Tax hikes, open borders , socialism and free stuff!
By joe hampton (3185), The Hamptons on Jul 24, 18 7:01 PM
Hey joe, find one quote from me where I talk about tax hikes open borders and socialism. You won’t find one . Dont assume you know my politics, on here I just call bs, like I’m calling you out now. I do remember you calling Obama a bicycle sheat sniffing Muslim.with that comment you have 0 credibility with me.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 25, 18 5:53 AM
@ Po Boy

Quote:

"hat, I do believe my time can be better spent that justifying the merits of comparing apples to oranges as you've disingenuously requested."
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To your original naked opinion you add an inane mischaracterization. Your time would be "better spent" in trying to give your your pronouncements credibility rather than in COPPING OUT by claiming that the effort is infra dig.

I see that you have now added a postscript. ...more
By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 25, 18 9:51 AM
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My turn in the highhatsize revolving door of lunacy I see.

I've adopted a new rule hat. When evidence is posted to refute and/or support a claim and that evidence is ignored, it's plainly evident, the conversation is going no where.

Case in point: "I once again invite you to defend your initial statement and to explain how comparing polls is "ludicrous" because it is "comparing apples and oranges"." Asked and done.

Have fun chasing your tail. DOn't let it get caught ...more
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 25, 18 10:12 AM
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@ Po Boy

As is your habit, incapable of defending your specious beliefs, you proclaim victory and depart.

I am happy to leave to the judgment of readers whether there is anything substantive in your recent responses or whether they are transparent attempts to c.y.(inept) a.

In light of your recent performances, your decision to quit adult swim is welcome.
By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 25, 18 10:46 AM
Like the time he insisted that Mr. Bamberber wasn't clear about what he regretted!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 25, 18 10:50 AM
To you hat:
Proverbs 23:9
Do not speak to a foo, for he will despise the wisdom of your words.

To you Fore:
Proverbs 26:4-14
Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 25, 18 11:35 AM
To you Po: Mr. Bamberger was very clear regarding what he was sorry for. That's why you disappeared from that conversation, and do the same every time you might have to concede that you're wrong.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 25, 18 11:45 AM
Yawn. Mr. Bamberger never said he was sorry, he expressed regret. You said he said he was "sorry". He didn't. That is FACT.

The problem Fore, is you and the cabal either A) Dismiss and gloss over presented facts in an effort to gain a response/outcome you'd prefer, or B) in the face of repeated responses (case in point Mr. Bamberger) that you don't agree with, ask the same question/point ad nauseum and when it enters the idiotic and you're surprised in the disappearance, claim some sort ...more
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 25, 18 12:16 PM
"I have embarrassed myself, my family, and Veterans...This was a very unfortunate incident and it is my sincere hope that I can be forgiven for my actions."

He wanted to be forgiven for an action he sincerely regrets, but please, keep insisting that he's not sorry, this is fun!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 25, 18 2:01 PM
You said, he said "he was sorry". He didn't.

I can certainly accept the accurate representation, had you communicated that. But rather, chose to use something, he didn't say. Details Fore...details.

By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 26, 18 9:26 AM
Hilarious! I actually never said "he said he was sorry" and I challenge you to show me where I did.

Nevertheless, it's an apology, and that's a fact, despite your objections that he didn't use the words "sorry" or "wrong."

This is like the time you claimed that his attorney doesn't speak for him! Keep it up!

Alternatively, you could just predictably leave the conversation since to admit you're wrong would be too heavy a burden.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 26, 18 9:35 AM
Congratulations. You've finally managed to blur a weeks old discussion into ad nauseum, the idiotic and the moronic. See item B) from the Jul 25, 18 12:16 PM post.

It doesn't change the nature of what started us down that path. The volatile and incendiary nature of Maxine Waters.

By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 26, 18 9:50 AM
But you didn't talk about Congresswoman Waters, instead jumping to the defense of Trump when I pointed out that he had in-fact offered to pay the legal fees of anyone assaulting a member of the opposition, clearly promoting more violence than Waters ever has.

Then you challenged me to find a single person who said Trump's words induced them to commit a violent crime...which I did!

So you admit that you're navel-gazing at whether the words "wrong" and "sorry" were said rather than ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 26, 18 10:00 AM
A violent crime? LOL...that's the first error that set the stage...comparing the moral equivalence of a 75 year old man found guilty of the non-violent offense of harassment while dismissing the clearly demonstrated volatile and incendiary violent actions of the Left such as shootings and driving and a woman who attempted to drive GOP congressman off road over a health-care vote.

BTW - I didn't challenge you for examples, I challenged you to show "likely increasing occurrences." I remain ...more
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 26, 18 12:37 PM
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The FACT is that there's at least one person alleging that Trump's words induced them to commit violence. Is any person alleging the same of any words spoken by a Democrat official?

Also, thanks for the reminder: a gun and car were also used in Charlottesville, coincidentally not by the liberals.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 26, 18 12:48 PM
"a gun and car were also used in Charlottesville, coincidentally not by the liberals."

Someone brought a car and gun to a club with nails protruding fight (and who knows what else) fight. There is a very distinct difference in what happened in Charlottesville and even what Bamberger did, than shooting Congressional members on a baseball field and targeting and stalking a Congressman because of his vote and I believe it's called premeditation.

Jul 26, 18 2:03 PM appended by Po Boy
"We did seize a large number of weapons or things that could be used as weapons," Simpson said. "Everything from knives to brass knuckles to poles and sticks and bricks and bottles and road flares and chains. One hundred percent, they came geared up to fight if it would be allowed." Unmasking the leftist Antifa movement. By Sara Ganim and Chris Welch, CNN August 22, 2017
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 26, 18 2:03 PM
Kkk and neo nazis always come geared for a fight.the kkks whole premise is based on violence and intimidation. They weren’t there to feed the ducks in the park. They were looking for a fight. They got one.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 26, 18 2:10 PM
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One more thing. Why are you citing cnn as a news source and the rest of the time dismissing them as fake news? How can that be?
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 26, 18 2:12 PM
At least one person said they were induced to commit violence by Trump's words. Is anyone saying the same of any Democrat, even the apparently-threatening 79 year-old Waters?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 26, 18 2:13 PM
Incorrect Fred. The KKK does not always come geared for a fight. They are geared for a fight because Antifa is very good at using technology in advance to agitate a fight. There have been many of peaceful KKK demonstration when they are given the appropriate attention. NONE.

I'm citing CNN for your benefit since it is held in such high regard by the Left.
Jul 26, 18 6:13 PM appended by Po Boy
Fore, you mean other than police killings? Sure, how about GOP Congressional members who were attacked simply because they were Republican. That Democrat maniac posted on a petition for "the legal removal" of Trump and Vice President Mike Pence for "treason". He belonged to numerous political Facebook groups, including those named "Terminate the Republican Party," "The Road To Hell Is Paved With Republicans," and "Donald Trump is not my President (Wiki). Now where have we heard that before? Oh yeah. HERE and by countless Democrats in leadership positions include Maxine Waters.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 26, 18 6:13 PM
Right Po Boy. The kkks premise is violence, always was always has been. That’s a very poor argument your arguing. But , but antifa started it.right. The kkk hung people because antifa? Maybe they blew up that church and killed children because antifa riled them up? Keep trying.
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 26, 18 6:28 PM
Show me a single instance of a person who alleges that they were influenced by the specific words of a Democrat politician to commit acts of violence; you can't.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 27, 18 3:57 AM
Are you white washing attempted murder by Democrat maniacs who parroted the well repeated party line? Qualifiers are a Democrat's BFF.

Jul 27, 18 10:04 AM appended by Po Boy
Fred, your logic train is off the rails. Shockingly to you perhaps, I wasn't there and don't know who started it. My guess judging from reports, both sides started it at any given point and law enforcement even had some culpability as they allowed the two groups to openly clash. One thing is certain, antagonism was thick in the air. The outcome was predictable, by design of Antifa who got what they came for. Press coverage. And the monuments fell. Question, if I was yelling in your face, blocking your path, and acting antagonistically to you, what would you do?
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 27, 18 10:04 AM
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No, I'm asking if there is a single person alleging they were specifically induced to commit violence by words spoken by Democrat politicians, and reminding you there's at least one person who says they were specifically induced to commit violence by Trump's words.

As for the question of what to do if someone "was yelling in your face, blocking your path, and acting antagonistically to you," I'd personally expect the rational consequences of my actions: If I was a Nazi I'd expect to get ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 27, 18 10:14 AM
Let’s see Po Boy, the klan is a violent white racist organization. Everywhere they go it’s to intimidate. Maybe their day of reckoning has come. Maybe if there was a group like this back when the klan started it’s nasty path in history , we might be in a better place race wise. Back to the klan, I’d defend myself against the racist pieces of sh_ _. I’d feel good about it. The klan wasn’t collecting toys for tots, they were looking for trouble, they got what they ...more
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 27, 18 10:20 AM
"the klan is a violent white racist organization. Everywhere they go it’s to intimidate."

You just described Antifa aswell. Interesting response to the question, because I was painting a picture of Antifa and their tactics (too).

Like it or not, when legally permitted, they have every right to express their hate.
Jul 27, 18 11:02 AM appended by Po Boy
Fore, you can ask all you want, life is sometimes not black/white, except when you white wash, but at a certain point....if you put the players behind a curtain...the politicians...the maniacs...and you can't tell the difference from the words coming out of their mouth, they are one in the same.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 27, 18 11:02 AM
Exactly: there is none.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 27, 18 8:03 PM
Klan first, antifa follows, get it?
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 27, 18 8:09 PM
Not at all.

Two wrongs, don't make a right, get that?
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 29, 18 1:30 PM
Did you call out PW for that "death to the left" comment yet?

Since you're so vehemently against violent rhetoric.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 29, 18 1:35 PM
No, I happen to agree with it. It coincides with my believe that Liberals are more dangerous than guns. The "left" isn't a person, it's an ideology, a misguided one at that.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 30, 18 4:05 PM
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I happen to agree with death to the left. Your a good American Po Boy, good American
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 30, 18 4:50 PM
When you stand for nothing Fred, you fall for everything.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 30, 18 7:29 PM
That’s whats gonna be written on your tombstone?
By Fred s (1158), Southampton on Jul 30, 18 7:34 PM
My name isn't Fred, Fred, but you're welcome to make it yours, Fred.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 30, 18 10:44 PM
THIS has been a enlightening conversation. I have discovered HHS is a devout Christian, ergo he is now a delusional psychopath according to his own lapdog Z.

The world as I knew it is tilted.

But then again Z is a lightning rod with a sleep disorder, so.....
Jul 25, 18 11:17 AM appended by Bayman3142
AND....hypocrisy of the site displayed. Using Z's EXACT SYMBOL i.e.(*) I get redlined, yet Z remains. Explain away liberal censorship.
By Bayman3142 (181), Southampton on Jul 25, 18 11:17 AM
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Perhaps it's more to do with conduct, than content.
Jul 25, 18 9:33 PM appended by Mr. Z
Or, perhaps the brutal honesty with the horse**** in the replied to post is warranted.
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 25, 18 9:33 PM
Trump.

Liar in Chief
Philanderer in Chief

Lies or truth?
Jul 25, 18 9:52 PM appended by Mr. Z
"Tapes don’t lie, even if the president does." ~ Ted Lieu (D-CA) House Judiciary Committee
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 25, 18 9:52 PM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By Bayman3142 (181), Southampton on Jul 26, 18 12:04 AM
Y'know, you'd probably have a much higher comment count if you could contain yourself.

So much red ink may indicate a lack of self respect.

"When people ask me about what I learned from martial arts, I don't talk about favorite punches or kicks, or about fights won or lost. I talk about learning self-discipline, about ethics and manners and benevolence and fairness."

~ Jonathan Maberry


By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 26, 18 9:33 PM
Nah, lack of dolt respect is more like it. I was copying and pasting a moronic post to see if/when the "editor" would wake up. Took a few days. I don't mind the red.....the black and white is generally pretty useless, mindnumbing, ignorant nonsense.


I see your up to 10,260.

What do you do with the little spare time you have? Google moderators are a thing of the past.
By Bayman3142 (181), Southampton on Jul 26, 18 11:58 PM
I manage my time rather effectively, thanks.
Jul 27, 18 2:42 AM appended by Mr. Z
BTW, things do tend to add up after over 9 years. But you're so astute and observant you probably figured that out already.
By Mr. Z (10515), North Sea on Jul 27, 18 2:42 AM
No need to try and explain how you waste your time.

You began May 26, 2009, your ex-bestie now delusional psychopath HHS (according to your "wisdom") started May 27, 2009.

Astute and observant says to get out more.
By Bayman3142 (181), Southampton on Jul 27, 18 9:00 AM
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Another fact-filled, relevant and courteous post from Bayman3142.

Hands for those who think that he will be redlined.

Hands for those who think that he will complain that he is being "picked-on" because of his political views.

One is minded of the observation attributed to Albert Einstein:

"Insanity is doing something over and over again and expecting a different result."
Jul 27, 18 9:28 AM appended by highhatsize
@ Bayman3142 (infra) - - - - - - Shocking! - - - - - - Clearly your and your Right-Wing lodge brothers' incessant claims that The Press censors are politically biased is TRUE! They ARE - - - against Liberals! - - - - - ("That's SARCASM, Boy." [as Foghorn Leghorn would say.])
By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 27, 18 9:28 AM
AND .. welcome mythomaniac in chief. Lapdog is over on the other side of the spectrum.

12 hours.....no redline.

Hands for those who will think he will speak in circles never really achieving any substantial thought but using big words and fore and Z will "likey" it
By Bayman3142 (181), Southampton on Jul 27, 18 9:19 PM
@ Po Boy

Quote:

"To you hat:
Proverbs 23:9
Do not speak to a foo, for he will despise the wisdom of your words.

To you Fore:
Proverbs 26:4-14
Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are."
------------------------------------

To you Po Boy:

"Fear of ridicule begets the worst cowardice." - André Gide.

By highhatsize (3730), East Quogue on Jul 26, 18 9:08 AM
Don't confuse fear with wisdom.
By Po Boy (2717), Water Mill on Jul 26, 18 9:22 AM
Sounds like Democrats will have to add ''kill growth'' to their midterm platform.

Will join increasing taxes, ending world peace, worsening our trade deals and opening our borders.

By SlimeAlive (971), Southampton on Jul 27, 18 9:41 AM
Realistically we could add "financial conservatism" since that's been thrown out the window by Trump Republicans.

Then again, would farmers comply with the President's request to "just be a little patient" with their financial losses in the absence of a bailout?

I think not.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 27, 18 9:45 AM
You've obviously never taken an economics class in your life.
By SlimeAlive (971), Southampton on Jul 27, 18 10:03 AM
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That's a very broad assumption and an ad hominem attack in lieu of a substantive response.

The fact is that our yearly deficits have ballooned to almost $1 trillion after Obama's second term averaged half that number.

Go ahead and raise that debt ceiling, Slime!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4138), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 27, 18 10:58 AM