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Oct 12, 2018 1:06 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

NY Times Poll: Zeldin Leads Gershon, 49-41, In Upcoming Congressional Race

Lee Zeldin and Perry Gershon
Oct 16, 2018 11:47 AM

A poll by The New York Times and the Siena College Research Institute indicated this week that Republican U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin is leading Democratic challenger Perry Gershon by about 8 percentage points in New York’s 1st District race.

Following the poll, a polling analysis blog, FiveThirtyEight.com, forecast that Mr. Zeldin had a nearly 90 percent chance of winning the election.

The polling, conducted by phone from October 4 to 8, showed that Mr. Zeldin was viewed favorably by fewer than half of voters, but unfavorably by only about one-third.

Mr. Gershon, on the other hand, had a lower unfavorable rating, but was also widely unknown to voters in the district—a problem that also dogged Mr. Zeldin’s challenger in 2016, former Southampton Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst.

The pollsters placed more than 27,000 calls to households and spoke to 502 individuals within the district.

Forty-nine percent of those spoken to said they were likely to vote for Mr. Zeldin, compared to 41 percent for Mr. Gershon. Ten percent of voters reported still being undecided about whom they would vote for on November 6, or refused to tell pollsters whom they planned to vote for.

The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.6 percentage points, but a 2016 poll by Siena shortly before the election predicted almost exactly the split between Mr. Zeldin and Ms. Throne-Holst that was seen at the polls.

Mr. Zeldin was viewed favorably by 48 percent of respondents and unfavorably by 35 percent, while just 17 percent said they were unfamiliar with him. Mr. Gershon was viewed favorably by 29 percent of respondents and unfavorably by 27 percent, but 44 percent said they were unfamiliar with him.

“The recent poll … reflects the continued, widespread support our congressman, Lee Zeldin, has in every corner of this district,” Mr. Zeldin’s campaign spokesman, Chris Boyle, said. “This is also the result of hundreds of volunteers and supporters on the ground walking door to door, making phone calls, and requesting lawn signs to help get the message out.”

Mr. Zeldin unseated six-term Democratic incumbent Tim Bishop in the last midterm election cycle in 2014, which saw turnout of just 173,000 voters out of some 470,000 registered in the district. More than 323,000 district voters cast ballots in 2016, when Mr. Zeldin easily defeated Ms. Throne-Holst.

The Siena poll that year showed Ms. Throne-Holst suffering from a similar unfamiliarity among voters, particularly in the densely populated western reaches of the district, as the recent poll showed for Mr. Gershon.

Mr. Gershon’s campaign voiced optimism that there would be a surge of support for him that was not reflected in the recent polling.

“Every indication is that there is a great grassroots surge breaking Perry’s way,” his campaign press secretary, Alexandra Dakich, said—noting that their own polling showed the race in a statistical dead heat. “The Times poll reveals a competitive race within its large margin of error. It all leads to tremendous confidence Perry will win the only poll that matters, on Election Day.”

The 1st District encompasses all of the five East End towns and Brookhaven Town, as well as a portion of Smithtown. Residents of Brookhaven Town make up more than 65 percent of the registered voters in the district.

The Times-Siena pollsters also asked about other issues in the national political arena. Approval of President Donald Trump was 51 percent, to just 43 percent disapproval. But voters were almost evenly split about whether their member of Congress should act as a check on the president’s policies, or support them: 47 percent of those interviewed said their congressman should be a check, and 46 percent said he should support the president’s agenda.

Forty-nine percent said they would prefer to see Republicans retain control of the House of Representatives, over 43 percent who preferred Democrats. Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination got 53 percent support and 41 percent opposition; 41 percent of those interviewed said they did not believe the allegations against him, while just 31 percent believed them, and 27 percent said they had no firm position on the matter.

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The more lies Perry tells, the bigger Lee's lead gets..
By SlimeAlive (982), Southampton on Oct 12, 18 1:52 PM
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Lyin' Lee is no Honest Abe. He claims that he wants to "safeguard our environment" but his atrocious voting record says otherwise.
By Pacman (191), Southampton on Oct 12, 18 2:58 PM
care to back up your assertion with a few facts?
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 12, 18 5:43 PM
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I'm with Big Fresh! Examples?




By Frank Wheeler (1798), Northampton on Oct 12, 18 6:21 PM
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Lee is safeguarding our environment from the many physical and emotional dangers of liberalist cheer led illeg*l immigrati*n.

Dangers like child exploitation, servitude, gangs, drugs, r*pe, drunk driving, usurping of resources and wanton taxation.

Open containers, drugs and men with face tattoos leering at my children and me at 1pm on a weekday don't belong in Agawam park.

The threat is real, liberals...the fear is real too.

#Vote(R)
By nataly mccarthy (17), southampton on Oct 13, 18 9:29 AM
Perry seems to think they do belong in Agawam Park and proposed to obstruct enforcement as per the statement he made of stopping the cooperation or communication between Ice and our local forces during the Southampton Progressive Caucus.
By Sitfu (15), East Quogue on Oct 13, 18 10:51 AM
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Voice your opposition to the Peaceful Communities Protection Act presented to the Southampton Town Board by OLA. This would codify a policy of noncooperation between the town Police Department and the federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE. 
Perry Gershon endorses noncooperation as well.
#Vote(R)
By Dawn_O (32), Southampton on Oct 14, 18 5:55 AM
OLA is dangerous when telling SHTB that our very own government departments should not fully cooperate with each other.

Amazing how bad this is for all on behalf of illegal immigrants. Is this more left social decoding to make it soft between "Peaceful Communities" vs "Peaceful Illegals".

By Hamptonsway (27), Southampton on Oct 14, 18 7:17 PM
On May 24, the House passed H.R. 953 by a vote of 256-165 (House roll call vote 282). Representative Bob Gibbs (R-OH) introduced H.R. 953, the Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act of 2017, which would eliminate Clean Water Act safeguards that protect communities from toxic pesticide exposure that occurs when pesticides are discharged directly into bodies of water without any meaningful oversight or public transparency. While this legislation has been framed as a response to the Zika and West Nile viruses, ...more
By Pacman (191), Southampton on Oct 15, 18 9:24 AM
On September 13, the House approved the Flores amendment by a vote of 216-199 (House roll call vote 497). Representative Bill Flores (R-TX) offered an amendment to H.R. 3354, the Department of the Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2018, which would add a harmful rider undermining the National Ocean Policy. The National Ocean Policy directs government agencies with differing mandates to work collaboratively to improve ocean health and also ensures that all competing ...more
By Pacman (191), Southampton on Oct 15, 18 9:29 AM
Representative Lee Zeldin (R-NY) offered an amendment to H.R. 5538, the Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2017, which would block any president from permanently protecting new marine national monuments anywhere in the United States’ Exclusive Economic Zone. This overly broad provision would block the potential of future protections for over 4.5 million square miles of U.S. waters, hamstringing our country’s future contributions to global ocean conservation.
By Pacman (191), Southampton on Oct 15, 18 1:09 PM
There's about 97 more of these anti-environment votes (out of 108 total votes on environment-related issues) if you want me to keep going.
By Pacman (191), Southampton on Oct 15, 18 4:13 PM
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Any of the "anti-environment" legislation actually do harm to the environment?
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 16, 18 12:46 PM
I don't know if he lies but I Do know that he is in lock step with Trump and ANYONE not calling Trump out on the bizarre and twisted behavior he demonstrates, HIS inability to function as an adult and the diminishing of our relationship with the world is cause alone for his removal
By lo-cal (69), southampton on Oct 18, 18 12:12 PM
socialism vs capitalism Lee Zeldin retains his seat and takes out the carpetbagger liberal.
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 12, 18 4:14 PM
You live in a socialistic society soooo not sure why you think Zeldin is any help
By lo-cal (69), southampton on Oct 18, 18 12:14 PM
HAHAHA !!! A landline phone rings. Number unknown. 26,000 do NOT answer. Tells you something about the gullibility of the 500 who did. Case closed. Let's go Gershon!!
By LoveToBird (1), Orient on Oct 12, 18 4:25 PM
Only people that answer those polls are the unemployed or people that cant afford a cell. All Park avenue Perry supporters. The Vet wins in a landslide
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Oct 15, 18 3:01 PM
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Saw Little Lee at Men's Wearhouse picking out new suits for his job after he loses at Fox (FAKE!) News. He's going to be a cameraman at Orange Man 45 rallies. Wait! Fox isn't broadcasting those rallies anymore. Sorry Little Lee - no job!
By allpeoplecount (39), eastport on Oct 12, 18 5:23 PM
Haha TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP! Sorry but liberal agenda has revealed itself. America first! BYE BYE Gershon.
By lirider (244), Hampton Bays on Oct 13, 18 8:45 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 12, 18 6:32 PM
Perry’s statement on fossil fuels:
“We need to invest in clean, renewable energy that grows our economy — not more dirty fossil fuels that pollute the air and threaten our coast.”
Clean air Perry who drives a Chevy Volt has investments in the Louisiana Offshore Terminal Authority as per financial disclosure. LOTA promotes, plans, finances, develops, constructs, controls, licenses, regulates, supervises, operates, manages, maintains and modifies offshore crude oil ...more
By Sitfu (15), East Quogue on Oct 12, 18 8:38 PM
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Gershon claimed that Lee planted what he described as a “phony story” about his oil and gas investments and that Lee didn’t understand what an infrastructure investment was. The infrastructure Gershon supports is in fact LOOP. Gershon is a hypocrite and his interests are not in alignment with his statements on fossil fuels, clean air, and coastal concerns.
By Dawn_O (32), Southampton on Oct 14, 18 7:55 AM
WHO is Gershon??? Is he married? Does he have children. Does he have a job? How does he support himself? Bar owner? Where did he get the money? Voting record? Who is this guy?
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 13, 18 10:27 AM
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Don’t think he ever voted in our district.
Check the e-courts...seems like he doesn’t like paying his fair share of property taxes in East Hampton and has sued local business.
By Sitfu (15), East Quogue on Oct 13, 18 11:01 AM
P.Revere.. If you stop watching FOX SNEWS and start reading The Southampton Press and other real news stations you won't have to ask such foolish questions.
You could also attend debates and become an educated voter. Oh yes, Zeldin doesn't do debates, he is busy dodging questions like.. How come the Neo Nazis support you?
But than, trump calls you the "LESS EDUCATED" and I'm sure you are proud of that.
By SpeedRacer (115), Southampton on Oct 13, 18 3:03 PM
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Zeldin. Makes me think of ZORIN from “A View To A Kill”.
By deepchanel (58), Hampton Bays on Oct 13, 18 4:03 PM
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Perry. Listening to him makes me think of Defense Counsel John Gibbons’ opening speech from “My Cousin Vinny”.
By Sitfu (15), East Quogue on Oct 14, 18 3:25 AM
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Sincerely curious....Is that because of the Nazi connection in that movie?
I have to laugh if it is , because Gershon is the one invoking Nazi Germany via his association with J Street....
By Biba (488), East Hampton on Oct 14, 18 10:30 AM
@ Biba

Quote:

"Gershon is the one invoking Nazi Germany via his association with J Street.... "
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Really? The Nazis believed in equal human rights for everyone regardless of ethnicity or religion and opposed both despotism and land theft?

I had no idea.
By highhatsize (3743), East Quogue on Oct 14, 18 2:54 PM
HHS

Despotism does not exist in Israel nor was land stolen...Arabs in Israel have more rights, freedoms, protections and privileges under the law than anywhere else in the Middle East ...Imagine that...An Arab Muslim has a better life IN Israel as compared to any Muslim state !

The fact that J street supports BDS definitely makes them comparable to Nazis...And BDS hurts Arab Muslims....

Here is a good article for everyone that likes to toss the Nazi comparison around......


The ...more
Oct 14, 18 7:16 PM appended by Biba
The Hill....When a Nazi comparison makes sense: The BDS movement against Israel...... Please fix the glitch SHP.........................
By Biba (488), East Hampton on Oct 14, 18 7:16 PM
Sitfu, I thought the opening statement by defense attorney John Gibbons in MY Cousin Vinny reminded me more of Paul Manafort’s defense when questioned about Trump’s investments with Russian Oligarchs on the CBS This Morning show.
By SDG1776 (109), Southampton on Oct 16, 18 8:48 AM
I am not sure why P Revere's comment was deleted about Gershon - it is no worse than some of the negative comments that have not been deleted about Zeldin. Anyone who has followed this can conclude that Gershon is a limousine liberal from Manhattan that changed his voting district to the east end just as many of the limousine liberals have done. I don't know why anyone would vote for someone that does that other than other limousine liberals that have destroyed places like Los Angeles.
By HB Proud (879), Hampton Bays on Oct 14, 18 6:42 AM
Perry Gershon is starting off his political relationship with the East End by attempting to purchase one.
By SlimeAlive (982), Southampton on Oct 14, 18 9:20 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 14, 18 12:12 PM
Inconclusive results about water-borne bacteria by scientists employed by and researching on the behalf of liberally biased institutions don't strike the fear of G*d in you the same way encountering leering face tattoos at 1pm on a weekday in Agawam Park with your toddlers does.

Gee, you don't think the water pollution comes from the myriad of toxins constantly draining off the lawns of Estate section, do you?

Trust fund Dems who are all for austerity...for you.

And don't ...more
By nataly mccarthy (17), southampton on Oct 14, 18 12:29 PM
PS: Thank you Sitfu for your hilarious comparison of Perry to defense lawyer Gibbons in "My Cousin Vinny". My wife and I are still laughing. The Dems should have gone with one of the three women in the Democratic primary debate. They might have had a chance to defeat Lee, a long shot but a chance. With Perry the chance of winning is nonexistent, none, zip, zero, better odds to win Powerball.
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 14, 18 12:49 PM
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SpeedRacer
With your mention of Zeldin dodging questions about why neo-nazis support him, I was just wondering who Perry’s been palling around with lately...that campaign fundraiser poster-child mouthpiece of his, Alec Baldwin? You want to talk about a temperamental, violent, abusive, homophobic, and racist supporter & spokesperson? The guy definitely needs a 12-step program or something. Listen to the YouTube audio from 2007 of a recorded phone message to his 12 yr old daughter where ...more
By Sitfu (15), East Quogue on Oct 15, 18 6:58 AM
Sitfu, Two quick questions... What elected office is Alec Baldwin running for? Your exact description of Alec is 100% the same description of Donald Trump. So don't you think you should change your name to SNAFU? MAGA Mueller Ain't Going Away
By SpeedRacer (115), Southampton on Oct 15, 18 12:08 PM
Speedo, One quick answer to your two quick questions:
I’m going to change my name as you suggested, only I’m dropping the SNA in SNAFU, and keeping the last two letters just for you.
By Sitfu (15), East Quogue on Oct 16, 18 11:50 PM
You, trump, Zeldin and all the Republican Neo Nazis certainly are...(SNA)FU.
By SpeedRacer (115), Southampton on Oct 17, 18 12:34 PM
I can’t figure out if the catholic church is a global warming non profit staffed with pedophiles or an international pedophile ring staffed with people who worry about global warming. Anyone?
By SlimeAlive (982), Southampton on Oct 15, 18 7:27 AM
From "About Perry Gershon for Congress" ( Perry's own website), quote: " After graduating from Yale in 1984 Perry founded one of New York's first sports bars." Perry who financed the bar? Where did the money come from? In your own words you had just graduated from Yale.
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 15, 18 10:56 AM
He probably got a "small personal loan" of $1M, just like Trump.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 15, 18 11:07 AM
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Polo Grounds Bar & Grille N.Y., Inc. @ 1472 Third Avenue & 83rd. Nice place. Been there many times. DOS initial filing date 2/19/1987.
By Sitfu (15), East Quogue on Oct 15, 18 11:28 AM
Perry bought the Democratic primary election. The 3 ladies were much more qualified than Perry. I watched the primary debate on SEA TV twice and found Perry to be comical in demeanor and speech. He supported Pelosi for speaker while the others wanted someone new.
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 15, 18 11:18 AM
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How did he buy the Democratic primary?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 15, 18 11:25 AM
Liz Warren is 1/64th Jeep Grand Cherokee
By SlimeAlive (982), Southampton on Oct 15, 18 11:57 AM
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P. Revere You must have been watching FOX SNEWS and not SEA TV, because at no time did any of the five superior Democratic candidates express any opinion about Pelosi for Speaker.. Now that PERRY GERSHON is the candidate, he stated that at this point in the campaign he was not expressing his support for Pelosi as it was too early to do so.

BTW, when it comes to comedy and demeanor Spanky Trump and his flunkies get an A+, Too bad it is at the expense of our Country.
By HamptonClassic (69), Southampton on Oct 15, 18 2:59 PM
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Councilwomen Julie Lofstad was a big disappointment during that segment of the meeting. Instead of being engaged she appeared busy texting or what ever.. she really keep her head down.
As for Schneiderman it is quite obvious he is bought and pay for by DLC, something to remember on November 6. When voting for Suffolk County Comptroller leave space blank or vote for Kennedy.
By HamptonClassic (69), Southampton on Oct 15, 18 3:24 PM
"US budget deficit expands to $779 billion in fiscal 2018 as spending surges. The federal budget deficit rose 17 percent ($113 Billion) in fiscal 2018, according to the Trump administration. Spending jumped, and revenue only increased slightly following the GOP tax cuts."

We ballin' outta control, makin' in rain in here. #MAGA #SpendinMoney #GovtCheese
By Pacman (191), Southampton on Oct 15, 18 3:59 PM
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@ Biba

We have batted around the question of Israeli national illegitimacy and its theft of Arab lands too often to bear repeating. I recommend that readers review our past discussions if they are curious.

However, your foolish reference to an article that compares BDS to the Nazis does merit comment. What the article says is that neo-Nazis support the BDS movement. So what? One assumes that the murderer of Heather Heyer in Charlottesville voted Republican. That doesn't make ...more
Oct 16, 18 4:19 PM appended by highhatsize
Ooops! Almost overlooked your latest lie (There are so many.) in which you claim that J Street supports the BDS movement. - - - IT DOESN'T - - - "1) We do not advocate for or support any boycott, divestment or sanctions initiative whatsoever 2) J Street has always been and remains opposed to the Global BDS Movement"* - - - - - - - - - - - - - For myself, I think that BDS should be employed so long as Israel continues impose the embargo that is cutting off people's air in Gaza.. When one goes, so the other. * "J Street: BOYCOTT, DIVESTMENT AND SANCTIONS (BDS)"
By highhatsize (3743), East Quogue on Oct 15, 18 4:19 PM
THUG LIFE- Zeldin, Trump, MBS, Putin, Kim, the 400 pound hacker, rogue killers.
Oh wait! We have Boof O'K to sort this out!
By allpeoplecount (39), eastport on Oct 15, 18 4:19 PM
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Don’t forget Kanye! Or should we call him Superman?
By deepchanel (58), Hampton Bays on Oct 16, 18 6:14 AM
Don't forget Alfa Bank, the Trump server, and Spectrum Health.

Nothing to see, move along...
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 18, 18 8:34 PM
michael avenatti
spartacus booker
nancy pelosi
diane feinstein
liz warren
alec baldwin
kathy griffin
chris cuomo
don lemon
hillary clinton
anthony weiner
keith ellison
perry gershon

pick your team wisely
By even flow (782), East Hampton on Oct 16, 18 7:27 AM
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Evenflow has blown a gasket! He's hopping on one foot now. Impressive. Let's add him to THUG LIFE!
By allpeoplecount (39), eastport on Oct 16, 18 1:37 PM
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Gershon doesn't even live here, he summers here. He has nothing to loose of he doesn't win. Go home Gershon.
By guest (63), Bridgehampton on Oct 16, 18 3:02 PM
Traditionally the party in the Whitehouse loses seats in Congress in the midterm election. Zeldin was vulnerable and could have been defeated for that reason alone. But then the Dems come up with Park Avenue Perry and pull defeat from the jaws of victory. Thank you Dems. Perry is a carpetbagger who has NEVER voted in the first congressional district. Zeldin will win by double digits.
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 16, 18 3:07 PM
Will you tell me how Perry bought the Democratic primary, or are you purposely ignoring my question?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 16, 18 3:10 PM
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Fore1gnBorn: Thanks for reminding me. I will be more than happy to tell you. First, according to financial reports submitted to the Federal Election Committee, Perry spent $2,128,209.00 on his campaign. The other 5 democratic candidates spent as follows: DiMasi 100G; Henry 9G: Browning 558G; Pechesky 270G; and Fisher 281G. Perry's warchest was spent on TV and newspaper ads, staff, mailings, signs, office space throughout the district, etc. Unfortunately money talks louder than qualifications. ...more
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 16, 18 3:53 PM
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So candidates who spend more money automatically win? Or when they do it means their win was "bought"?

I don't think so.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 16, 18 3:59 PM
PR, don't you know anything? It means their win was "bought" only if it involves campaign contributions from the NRA to a winning Republican candidate.
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 16, 18 5:05 PM
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Says who?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 16, 18 5:13 PM
Gillibrand’s plea to NYC’s elite for someone with a vacation home on Long Island’s East End to run against Zeldin is how Perry evolved. After the function Perry put together a resume, presented it to Bishop, Bishop commented on Perry’s connections and fundraising abilities, told him to go out and raise $500K the 1st qtr, and that people would take him very seriously if he could accomplish that. It was Gillibrand aka “The Resistance” who bought the primaries. ...more
Oct 16, 18 7:04 PM appended by SDG1776
Gershon’s reason for running as per his quote, “I had to do something against Trump”, “He (Zeldin) seemed like the perfect guy”.
By SDG1776 (109), Southampton on Oct 16, 18 7:04 PM
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Park Avenue Perry. Another Dem Carpetbagger.

WTF, Turkeybridge. You can’t find a local? Your party is always importing some interloper to run...
By Draggerman (823), Southampton on Oct 16, 18 10:06 PM
NY Times Poll Zeldin Leads Gershon, 49-41,
By They call me (2466), southampton on Oct 17, 18 8:22 AM
Davos Declares America Great Again

U.S. Wins Title of World’s Most Competitive Economy

Largest Truck Company Predicts 20 Percent Wage Raise

MAKE AMERICA GREAT !
By 27dan (2467), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 17, 18 9:56 AM
•Budget deficit soars to 6-year high under Trump
•Republicans propose cuts to Social Security and Medicare
By Pacman (191), Southampton on Oct 17, 18 2:04 PM
Which part is BS, the one where DJT will sign a bill that cuts social security and Medicare?

Wanna bet on it?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4164), HAMPTON BAYS on Jan 4, 18 11:43 AM
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 17, 18 2:12 PM
Somehow this deficit is Obama's fault
By Pacman (191), Southampton on Oct 17, 18 2:56 PM
Republicans don't have to worry about the size of their deficits, they know a Democrat will come along and clean up their mess.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 17, 18 2:58 PM
Said this very thing at last night's dinner table. It's the historical cycle.
By June Bug (2167), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 17, 18 5:07 PM
Dang, all I said was, pass the biscuits pleassss.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 17, 18 5:43 PM
Said that too, Fred. :)
By June Bug (2167), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 17, 18 6:01 PM
Tales from the Multigenerational International Criminal Conspiracy:

Source: Pro Publica
Report: Trumps Repeatedly Lied to Investors to Make Money

The Trump family lied over and over again about the viability of their businesses in order to make money, and their methods have been laid bare by a new investigation by ProPublica. Over multiple deals around the world, key sales numbers were repeatedly overstated to fool investors, according to the report. Ivanka Trump is described ...more
By June Bug (2167), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 17, 18 5:12 PM
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The Democrat Party has been rendered irrelevant , thanks President Trump.
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 17, 18 7:08 PM
So irrelevant it's consistently mentioned in your comments?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 17, 18 7:16 PM
Anna was good looking and a former Southamton Town Board Chairperson. What does Perry bring to the table.
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 17, 18 9:32 PM
How high on your list of political priorities are looks?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 17, 18 9:35 PM
I don't understand, did she run for something? Did you write her in on your ballot for kicks?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 18, 18 4:13 PM
Did Trump grab her by the p****?
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 18, 18 7:20 PM
NO ONE CARES Z no one cares...
By joe hampton (3191), The Hamptons on Oct 18, 18 8:07 PM
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Yes, Mr. Z is indeed a party.

Joe, seems you two care at least enough to respond
Oct 19, 18 8:03 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
It appears our friend PW Hernan has been shown the door, as all of his comments (even the redlined ones) have been deleted. Good riddance and warning to all!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 19, 18 8:03 AM
Ya think so ?
Oct 19, 18 1:52 PM appended by themarlinspike
And please what country might you be from friend ?
By themarlinspike (7), southampton on Oct 19, 18 1:52 PM
My response doesn't make much sense without PW's original comment with the partly-censored 5-letter word so I'm not sure what you're asking, and I also find it a little suspicious that you're responding from a new account right after PW was banned.

In any event, I'm as American as apple pie, which was coincidentally also born outside of this country.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 19, 18 2:42 PM
I've read back a few of your too numerous comments and your sentiments seem like anti American anarchy.
By themarlinspike (7), southampton on Oct 19, 18 3:11 PM
Thanks marlin/PW! As you might imagine your opinion is very important to me.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 19, 18 3:39 PM
I can't pronounce your un American screen name so I'll just refer to you as PU.
By themarlinspike (7), southampton on Oct 20, 18 8:27 AM
I don't get it, since my name has neither a P nor a U, but whatever makes you happy, buddy!

Please buy a subscription so we can chat more often!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 8:38 AM
No thanks, I don't speak your twisted lingo.
Oct 20, 18 8:51 AM appended by themarlinspike
Judging by your voluminous comments, please buy yourself a new personality.
By themarlinspike (7), southampton on Oct 20, 18 8:51 AM
How does a long comment history indicate a lack of personality?

Please think about it and get back to me tomorrow.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 9:37 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 17, 18 9:45 PM
I understand that you feel that way, but the fact is that looks are pretty useless in politics without much, much more, and facts don't care about your feelings.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 17, 18 10:23 PM
NEW CARAVAN GROWS

Oct 18, 18 12:26 PM appended by They call me
We Are A Sovereign Nation This is an Invasion. Trump MAGA!
By They call me (2466), southampton on Oct 18, 18 12:26 PM
Healthcare - Little Lee killed mine! (His is government-sponsored.)
Environmentalists - Lee got a 9% rating from the League of Conservwtion Voters!
Send this clown back to Mar A Lago - where the Orange man has NO health insurance for his workers and will soon wash away in a hurricane! But, hey,
Climate Change is a myth. Right?
No Healthcare, No Environmental Protection, No Little Lee. Flip NY01!
By allpeoplecount (39), eastport on Oct 18, 18 12:56 PM
Jobless claims drop 5,000 to 210,000 in mid-Oct., 50-year low, Unusually low layoffs underscores best labor market in decades, Market Watch. By Jeffry Bartash : Oct 18, 2018 11:54 a.m. ET

GREENSPAN: Tightest labor market I've ever seen...

Lets get those Democrats back in control so we can get those unemployment numbers back up. Who wants to work when you can get free food & housing for life just for a vote.
By They call me (2466), southampton on Oct 18, 18 1:06 PM
If you DON'T want this^^^^^ Vote Republican!

My goodness, listen to the it!?!
Oct 18, 18 1:12 PM appended by Po Boy
The Left-wing angry mob is alive and well!!
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 18, 18 1:12 PM
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Considering his proclamations and multiple raising of interest rates within a couple of years caused an economic meltdown, I'd say this most recent proclamation is credible.

If you're an idiot...
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 18, 18 7:14 PM
Speaking of Idiots
By Undocumented Democrat (1769), southampton on Oct 18, 18 7:51 PM
Greenspan was born in 1926.

Hmmmmmm...
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 18, 18 8:16 PM
Latest NY Times/Sienna Polling data has Zeldin at +8 over Gershon. Likely voters.

Gerson - 29% favorable
Zeldin - 48% favorable

2016 Trump won NY1 by 12 points

This has tended to be a battleground district, but Mr. Zeldin won his re-election two years ago by a decisive 16 percentage points and is expected to do the same this year.

Mr. Gershon spent 25 years in commercial real estate lending. He has said he became more politically active after seeing parallels ...more
Oct 18, 18 1:42 PM appended by SlimeAlive
between the rise of Donald Trump today and the rise of Hitler.
By SlimeAlive (982), Southampton on Oct 18, 18 1:42 PM
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I agree Slime Alive -- The New York Times is a leading source of accurate information on myriad topics : )

Polls are indicating that Zeldin will win. Although I'm a libtard, who would never vote for Zeldin, I do ackowledge that his victory seems likely.

In the 2014 midterm elections, nationwide 36.7% of eligible voters cast a vote, in NYS the rate was 29% -- pathetic : /

Each vote matters in NYS congressional district 1, please vote on Tuesday November 6th!

By Aeshtron (156), Southampton on Oct 18, 18 4:41 PM
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Just received some very important numbers:
Elizabeth Warren is 1/1024 Native American
Beto O'Rourke is 1/1024 Mexican
Rachel Dolezal is 1/1024 Black
Chelsea Manning is 1/1024 Female
Amy Schumer is 1/1024 Funny
Richard Blumenthal is 1/1024 Vietnam Veteran
Maxine Waters is 1/1024 Intelligent
Corey Booker is 1/1024 Spartacus
Dr. Ford is 1/1024 Believable

....And Hillary Clinton is 0/1024 President!

By DiseaseDiocese (179), Riverhead on Oct 18, 18 5:56 PM
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Diseased, you forgot trump 100% low moral loser. Add that to your list
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 18, 18 5:59 PM
I for one do not see it that way Fred, I see a winner on all topics ... Just 6 more years of President Trump to go Bitter Fred . and the best part about it is Obama taught Trump that if you lose the house it dose not matter because " The POTUS has a pen and a phone "
By Undocumented Democrat (1769), southampton on Oct 18, 18 7:56 PM
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Very good UD very good...
By joe hampton (3191), The Hamptons on Oct 18, 18 7:59 PM
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How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business

Dan Alexander
Forbes Staff

Nice role models you've got there...
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 18, 18 8:20 PM
Lay off the red meat.

Forbes’ Hit Piece On Eric Trump Foundation Deceives Readers.
Posted on July 18, 2017*

"Good journalism is important especially when there is so little of it. While the networks have digressed into reporting mostly corrupted news tabloid infotainment, formerly respected news sources such as The Hill and Forbes have been falling into the same unethical trap in hopes of generating “conflict” and “red meat” for certain groups ...more
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 18, 18 8:30 PM
Even Vanity Fair backed that one up. Even more lurid details in that piece.

Whatever helps you sleep at night...
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 18, 18 9:18 PM
LOL, yeah, Vanity Fair cites the Forbes piece. How lurid. If you've seen one hit piece, you've seen them all.

Worry about your heart, not my insomnia.
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 18, 18 9:27 PM
Facts. The right wing kryptonite.

"In reviewing filings from the Eric Trump Foundation and other charities, it's clear that the course wasn't free — that the Trump Organization received payments for its use, part of more than $1.2 million that has no documented recipients past the Trump Organization. Golf charity experts say the listed expenses defy any reasonable cost justification for a one-day golf tournament."
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 19, 18 6:36 AM
Fact, right up to the opinion of "gold charity experts" are the costs.

Fact is, ".....The Trump’s allow the use of the their golf course for free. The article paints that out to be a lie because the golf course billed ETF for expenses, quite deliberately blurring a very important distinction....what the article omits is that as the Trump’s global fame has increased exponentially thanks to “The Apprentice” having been a number one rated show and their increased political ...more
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 19, 18 7:32 AM
So, the use of the facilities was not free. The rotten apple doesn't fall far from the prevaricating tree...
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 22, 18 7:50 PM
Another false post.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 22, 18 7:57 PM
Trump 100% genius. Made America Great Again. A job for everyone willing to work and not looking for " free stuff". You want it ,work for it. Get a job and pay your taxes, social security, and health insurance. America is now the greatest economic engine in the world. King of the mountain, top of the hill. If you can afford a tattoo then get off food stamps and take care of your family.
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 18, 18 6:32 PM
P. Revere, try to get on as a trump adviser, you’d be great.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 18, 18 6:38 PM
Thank you Fred.
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 18, 18 6:52 PM
Watch Live Now : Donald Trump Hosts Rally in Missoula, MT

F MAGA WHEWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww !

GO BABY GO ! KEEP MAKING AMERICA F GREAT !!!!
By Ditch Bum (574), Water Mill on Oct 18, 18 8:12 PM
The "self made" Grifter/Prevaricator in Chief was told to stay out of Wisconsin, as the GOP epic failure has Scott Walker headed out to pasture. Next best stop, one would suppose.

"Free market" supporters who defend a protectionist that uses socialism to "aid" the people he screwed. Good Christians who support a man who wantonly breaks one of their precious commandments.

Nice hypocrisy ya got there...
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 18, 18 8:29 PM
where can we watch it live youtube ?
By Erin 27 E (1097), hampton bays on Oct 18, 18 8:31 PM
Trump knocks Walker in Wisconsin
By Jeremy Diamond, CNN Updated 8:27 PM ET, Tue March 29, 2016

"...But Trump focused the brunt of his attacks on Walker by pointing to economic hardships in Wisconsin, which Trump attributed to free trade deals that Trump said have siphoned jobs out of the state to countries like China and Mexic0.....He's not doing a great job," Trump said of Walker, suggesting the governor's support of free trade was to blame for manufacturing job losses in the state. ...more
Oct 18, 18 8:35 PM appended by Po Boy
"Despite stumping in Walker's home state, Trump drew an unflinchingly supportive response as he reamed the Wisconsonite in Janesville -- a blue-collar town that has suffered the consequences of the manufacturing decline -- drawing boos the moment he mentioned Walker's name."
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 18, 18 8:35 PM
THATS B S Mr. Z Mosinee, WI OCT 24 630 pm

Mesa AZ Fri Oct 19

Trump's Texas campaign on Oct 22 needs rally to be held in bigger venue

MAGA BABY !

Economy and Jobs
President Trump jump-started America’s economy into record growth, which created jobs and increased take-home pay for working Americans.

Immigration
President Trump protected the American homeland by enforcing immigration laws, so that every American can feel safe in their community.

Foreign ...more
By Ditch Bum (574), Water Mill on Oct 18, 18 8:38 PM
"BS"?

The advisement part or the GOP epic economic failure part?



By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 18, 18 9:14 PM
omg huge crowd and they all love him!
By Erin 27 E (1097), hampton bays on Oct 18, 18 8:41 PM
Republicans are running racist attack ads all over the place
While GOP Congressman French Hill was pressured to denounce this ad on Thursday, it is only one in a growing number of Republican attack ads with obvious racial undertones.

As the New York Times reported this week, the GOP’s newest tactic is to tie some of the more diverse Democratic candidates to terrorism.

In California’s 50th district where Democratic candidate Ammar Campa-Najjar is running, his Republican ...more
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 18, 18 9:24 PM
"pressured"...right. "GOP"....right.

You realize it's politics circa 2018 and not an election for high school student government?

Meanwhile, Democrats and their staff are caught on tape acknowledging they lie and tone down the true nature of their radical positions in order to get elected.
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 18, 18 9:54 PM
Thank you French Hill (with full audio replay):

Desperate GOP Launches Racist Ad Claiming Democrats Will Bring Back Lynching

Sean Colarossi, Oct. 8 2018


“Girl, white Democrats will be lynching black men again,” another voice in the ad responds.
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 18, 18 9:23 PM
"Desperate GOP" had nothing to do with the ad, and you know it, but as a Left-wing angry mob Democrat, that doesn't matter.

"Republican Rep. French Hill in Arkansas’ 2nd Congressional District. Hill condemned the ad, calling it “appalling.”

By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 18, 18 9:35 PM
Trump Organization Sues Dead Man For 90k
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 18, 18 10:04 PM
Wouldn’t any creditor sue the estate of the deceased to collect an outstanding debt? Isn’t the function of probate to settle all claims against the deceased such as mortgage debt, credit card debt, and in this instance, unpaid property maintenance fees?
By SDG1776 (109), Southampton on Oct 19, 18 6:31 AM
Yes it is. However, if there was actually smoke detectors or a fire suppression system in the high rise they would probably still have a tenant. A lack of the former was not illegal thanks to an NYC loophole, but quite unethical. And, pretty dumb.
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 19, 18 6:40 AM
After reading the article, given the surrounding circumstances, I agree with you that it was pretty dumb and unethical. The number of court filings in NYS involving Trump’s organizations in comparison to competitive firms in the industry are similar by numbers and typical, yet Trump’s organizations have a “much” higher incidence of being plaintiff rather than defendant by comparison.
By SDG1776 (109), Southampton on Oct 19, 18 7:21 AM
They sued the estate for $90K in unpaid "common charges" and it seems perfectly legitimate. In other words, the other condo unit owners and the general operating fund that all condo owners pay into would essentially take the hit. They'd be negligent to the other owners if they didn't sue - and they would be sued. Whether they collect or not, is another story.

To add to that, this guy didn't have smoke alarms in his 50th floor apartment. Since they are suing this guy, we can conclude he ...more
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 19, 18 7:50 AM
Seems as if there are no more Blue Dog Democrats but plenty of Angry Mob Democrats, what forced the party off the rails and so far left?
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 19, 18 6:24 AM
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Newt Gingrich - You remember him.
The father of extremist right wing politics.
The guy who tried to impeach a president for consensual sex with an adult at the same time he was busy screwing his secretary while his wife was in the hospital with cancer.
By bird (731), Sag Harbor on Oct 19, 18 9:09 AM
A really good starting point bird to get to the Democrat anger that is manifesting itself into the angry mob, but many in the angry mob today wouldn't even know what you're referring to. It's much much deeper.

Clinton wasn't impeached as you know, for consensual sex, but for lying under oath. That said, Gingrich and Clinton were political allies in many respects, but to call him the father of "extremist right wing politics" is more telling of the Democrat reaction to his policies, than ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (392), Southampton on Oct 19, 18 9:39 AM
Mr S - Yes, I do realize that the actual charge was for the supposed lie. ("It is almost always the cover-up rather than the event that causes trouble." - Howard Baker) That doesn't change the fact that Newt took the Republicans to the extreme right with a win at any cost ideology and Republicans embraced his hypocrisy and quest for power like the golem to the ring. And that abandonment of decency has led us to where we are now. Perhaps the left is just learning from the right that the path to power ...more
By bird (731), Sag Harbor on Oct 19, 18 5:17 PM
Perhaps the left is just learning from the right that the path to power is thru lies, personal attacks, innuendo, etc. Yes it is sad that the right has brought us to where we are now - the current "Do or say anything for the win." I find it completely ridiculous that the right complains as these are the policies of Gingrich and McConnell being now being used by the left against back against them.I'll give you another Baker quote, "The people elected Reagan president and that has to mean something." ...more
By bird (731), Sag Harbor on Oct 19, 18 5:21 PM
I'll give you another Baker quote, "The people elected Reagan president and that has to mean something." as opposed to a McConnell quote, "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." at which point the republicans went on to do their best to block every single policy of the overwhelmingly elected president.
Oct 20, 18 5:23 PM appended by bird
Apologies, the quote is from Dan Rostenkowski, not Howard Baker
By bird (731), Sag Harbor on Oct 19, 18 5:23 PM
Mr S - I wish I could read the rest of your post but it appears there is now a limit on the length of posts and yours was cut. My statements above are not an endorsement of the current actions of the left, truth is I am saddened them.
By bird (731), Sag Harbor on Oct 19, 18 5:28 PM
DONALD TRUMP: ‘DEMOCRATS PRODUCE MOBS, REPUBLICANS PRODUCE JOBS’
“Democrats have become the party of crime.”
Breitbart - OCTOBER 19, 2018
By They call me (2466), southampton on Oct 19, 18 7:59 AM
Let's take a look at the Administration of Crime:
- There are 187 criminal charges in active indictments or to which individuals have pleaded guilty
- Another 23 counts against President Trump’s former deputy campaign manager Rick Gates were vacated when he agreed to cooperate with Mueller
- Thirty-two people and three businesses have been named in plea agreements or indictments
- Six guilty pleas from five defendants, including Gates, former national security adviser Michael ...more
Oct 19, 18 9:23 AM appended by bird
Source: "A summary of the fruit of the Mueller investigation, to date" by Philip Bump, July 13, 2017, Washington Post.
By bird (731), Sag Harbor on Oct 19, 18 9:23 AM
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My full post:
Let's take a look at the Administration of Crime:
- There are 187 criminal charges in active indictments or to which individuals have pleaded guilty
- Another 23 counts against President Trump’s former deputy campaign manager Rick Gates were vacated when he agreed to cooperate with Mueller
- Thirty-two people and three businesses have been named in plea agreements or indictments
- Six guilty pleas from five defendants, including Gates, former national security ...more
By bird (731), Sag Harbor on Oct 19, 18 9:32 AM
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OK - Full length posts now working again.

Mr S - "Is it being hypocritical to impeach a President for lying under oath while you are having an affair? The two are very different from one another - one is both illegal and immoral, the other "simply" immoral."

The point is that a politicians sexual escapades were never an issue. Many presidents prior to Clinton had affairs and mistresses. Eisenhower, JFK and Reagan to name a few. It wasn't till Gingrich, with his scorched earth ...more
By bird (731), Sag Harbor on Oct 20, 18 1:28 PM
"And that abandonment of decency has led us to where we are now."

I disagree completely. Newt Gingrich did not force Bill Clinton to lie under oath. One man, in one chamber of Congress with a Democrat president is simply not capable of that degree of power. THis is something that has taken years to evolve and fester. In my view it was the 2000 election combined with the impeachment of Bill Clinton. The Left hasn't forgotten either of those events and Hillary losing after 8 years of Barack ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (392), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 6:48 PM
First you disagree and then you completely agree:

"it was the 2000 election combined with the impeachment of Bill Clinton".

You are correct, it wasn't Gingrich alone but it was his scorched earth, no compromise policies, along with his hypocrisy and the Florida purge of Democratic voters that have brought us here. Add in the treatment of Obama and Merrick Garland and a list as long as my arm of other Republican stunts and atrocities and you have the current political climate.

Republicans ...more
By bird (731), Sag Harbor on Oct 21, 18 8:07 AM
Apparently posts are now truncated???

For a look at the full list, check the article "A summary of the fruit of the Mueller investigation, to date" by Philip Bump, July 13, 2017, Washington Post.

The list of indictments and guilty pleas is impressive.

The Trump Administration - On track to surpass even the Reagan Administration as the most corrupt administration of all time.
By bird (731), Sag Harbor on Oct 19, 18 9:39 AM
A former Hillary Clinton adviser says there's a chance she will run in 2020
9:02a.m. Ready to go through the 2016 election all over again? LOL

Philippe Reines, who worked for Hillary Clinton going back to 2002 and was her senior adviser at the State Department, made the argument to Politico Friday that the former Democratic nominee is actually the party's best hope for defeating Trump in 2020.
By Ditch Bum (574), Water Mill on Oct 19, 18 9:43 AM
Perfect Just Perfect ! Good God are they kidding ? Lets give someone else a chance you must be joking. I truly give up !
By local 84 (330), riverhead on Oct 19, 18 9:50 AM
ARE YOU READY -H> again

"Hillary for America" again .....

" I'm With Her" again .....

lol please tell me its true !
By They call me (2466), southampton on Oct 19, 18 10:11 AM
What choice do they have ? The loser Kamala Harris misstres to old Willy Brown!! research her political ladder. Corrupt to the core! Democrats best clean house. If they are tired of corrupt people trying to cheat votes, then back Trump. Back Trump for truth and honor and JOBS!!!!!! He is doing amazing! Dems lie, cheat, an use violence
By Undocumented Democrat (1769), southampton on Oct 19, 18 10:47 AM
From talking points memo.... The New York Police Department announced that Geoffrey Young, 38, was arrested at his home in the suburb of New City. He was charged with misdemeanor rioting and attempted assault.

After a speech at the Upper East Side’s Metropolitan Republican Club last week by Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes, members of the group brawled with protesters on the sidewalk outside. The fist-fights were caught on surveillance video from multiple angles, leaving observers ...more
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 19, 18 10:58 AM
From the Proud Boys Home Page :

The Time For Apologies Is Past

I Am A Western Chauvinist And I Refuse To Apologize For Creating The Modern World.

The West is the Best!

The basic tenet of the group is that we are “Western chauvinists who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world.” Like Archie Bunker, we long for the days when “girls were girls and men were men.” This wasn’t controversial even twenty years ago, but being proud ...more
By Ditch Bum (574), Water Mill on Oct 19, 18 11:55 AM
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From the NY Times:

"Deborah Coughlin, the president of the club, said that she welcomed Mr. McInnes because there had been no trouble when he spoke at the club last year. Ms. Coughlin explained that the club considered Mr. McInnes’ political views to be on the spectrum of conservative “civil discourse.” She also noted that during the event, his followers were quiet and respectful.

But according to the police, skirmishes erupted as soon as the evening’s ...more
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 19, 18 12:05 PM
Prosecutor Po, please restate for us the law on self-defense.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 19, 18 12:09 PM
Just the facts, ma'am.
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 19, 18 12:32 PM
"masked left wing protesters that had left the event and walked down Lexington Avenue to catch them. A protester HURLED a plastic bottle at the Proud Boys "...… So a mob started an altercation and the Proud Boys stomped the crap out of them, excellent! What did the left wing protesters expect as a response? Once again, excellent!
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 19, 18 12:34 PM
So bigfresh, you enjoyed it right? Your the biggest hypocrite on here. You rally against the democratic mobs. These Nazi sympathizers are your people. White nationalist Nazi sympathizers, a leopard can’t change its stripes. Next time you speak about mobs, include the right wing douche bags please. Proud boys = douche bags. You keep good company.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 19, 18 1:08 PM
FYI, the law protects those who respond to force with like force to the extent it is reasonably necessary to protect yourself.

In other words, should someone slap/spit/swing at you, don't expect to get away with a gang assault.

By the way, that's what the founder calls his group: a gang.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 19, 18 1:13 PM
The Proud Boys are not Nazi sympathizers Bitter Freddy, your favorite liberal storm troopers ( Antifa and blm) are the ones using fascist tactics to shut down dissenting opinion, but hey as long as they're ALT LEFT fan boys it's all good in the hood for you. In this case, they were attacked and responded, as would anyone with an ounce of testicular fortitude. Counts you out.
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 19, 18 1:18 PM
...and will be arrested and charged for their response
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 19, 18 1:20 PM
Bigfresh, their rally’s attract neo nazis and white nationalist. You can frame it any way you like, they are douche bags. It’s all good for me when someone confronts racists, neo nazis and white nationalist. But that’s me. You like racists and their ilk, that’s on you mr . Hypocrite. Thanks for the insult also, shows your true side. Proud boys are douche bags, embrace them bigfresh, your peeps.i love the right wingers feel they are “tougher” then everyone. You ...more
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 19, 18 1:25 PM
From SPLC..........Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, ...more
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 19, 18 1:32 PM
Fred, until you disavow the atrocious violent activities of Antifa, you have zero moral high ground in this argument. ZERO!

"I don’t like Gloria Steinem, but I’d take a bullet for Edith."

~ Gavin McInnes

That's actually funny!


Oct 19, 18 4:23 PM appended by Po Boy
I'll add Black Lives Matter to the list for dishonorable mention...
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 19, 18 4:23 PM
Po boy, I owe no man anything.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 19, 18 4:25 PM
Bitter Freddy: you parrot the ALT LEFT talking points in damn near every post here , have you an opinion of your own? Can you articulate it without sounding like an Angry Mob member?
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 19, 18 4:35 PM
Bigfresh, spare me your bs. Mister high and mighty standing on moral high ground. Your racist rants about the Obama’s is enough to make me want to puke. Your moral high ground is the bottom of a cesspool. Your rantings are that of a radical pseudo religious d bag. You are a good example of a trump supporter, no morals or back bone.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 19, 18 4:43 PM
ahhh personal attacks, the desperate , futile act of one who has lost the debate, checkmate Bitter Freddy.
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 20, 18 9:01 AM
Lee Zeldin es une poule mouillée ; )
By Aeshtron (156), Southampton on Oct 19, 18 10:11 AM
Trumponomics at Work..MAGA!!

It’s a beautiful thing having a Businessman for President.

Can’t wait to see when Trump has the mother of all rallies in Texas.
We’ll see what the poll numbers look like then.

Ted will Cruz to Victory!
By 27dan (2467), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 19, 18 10:36 AM
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On behalf of the intelligent voters who will be re-electing Zeldin to represent NY-1:

You're welcome.
By SlimeAlive (982), Southampton on Oct 19, 18 12:33 PM
Little Lee Zeldin jumped on a bus with 200-plus fellow GOP congressturds and cheered in the rose garden as orange 45 clapped that the ACA was dead. No one told the Toadstool he needed two houses to overturn our healthcare, but who's counting! We Are! I have spent months knocking on doors in NY01- hi to all the fine people I met. I can tell you one thing - Little Lee will lose this election
because he voted to trash our healthcare. People are angry at him. Folks,it is not more complicated than ...more
By allpeoplecount (39), eastport on Oct 19, 18 4:45 PM
LOL, I completely forgot about that!

Talk about premature celebration.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 19, 18 4:51 PM
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Ken Starr investigated Clinton for SEVEN YEARS and found nothing but a lie about sex in a civil deposition. Mueller has been investigating Trump for ONLY 18 MONTHS and has convictions AND cooperation from five of the most powerful aides in Trump's orbit.

THE RESULTS:

TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER
Charged
Convicted
Cooperating

TRUMP'S DEPUTY CAMPAIGN MANAGER
Charged
Convicted
Cooperating

TRUMP'S NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR
Charged
Convicted
Cooperating

TRUMP'S ...more
By June Bug (2167), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 19, 18 4:55 PM
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And now it turns out that Gary Hart was set up by Lee Atwater.

The GOP has been dirty a LONG time.
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 20, 18 4:34 AM
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Just remember to vote. Remind your family and friends. Just vote Red.
By Lets go mets (337), Southampton on Oct 19, 18 5:47 PM
"Better dead than Red"
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 22, 18 7:44 PM
Right, Just vote for the Red Wave that began in the Rose Garden. Little Lee cheering as he took a big steaming dump on our HealthCare. Next, theyll
fix the Trilion Dollar deficit (called a middle tax cut!) they gave their hedge fund buddies by killing our Social Security and Medicare. Vote for the Red Wave and
send Little Lyin Lee out with the tide (that ole environmentalist with 9% rating from the League of Conservation Voters. Lee meets with his constituents about
as often as MBS! ...more
By allpeoplecount (39), eastport on Oct 19, 18 6:55 PM
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What we are witnessing is the manifestation of the mental disorder known as Liberalism.
By Po Boy (2778), Water Mill on Oct 19, 18 7:15 PM
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Thanks for your hateful rhetoric!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 19, 18 8:38 PM
What we are witnessing is the manifestation of the mental disorder known as Liberalism. Dilly Dilly
By Ditch Bum (574), Water Mill on Oct 20, 18 1:55 AM
Thanks ditch bum, the pic looks exactly like me. Except I have no eyebrows. Amazing likeness!!!!!
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 6:14 AM
Do you want mobs or jobs?

If you want mobs, vote democrat.
By SlimeAlive (982), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 7:10 AM
Watch out, democratic mobs plan to attack with multi-syllable words and scientific facts!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 7:22 AM
either that or:

anthrax, ricin, guns at baseball fields, bricks, spray paint, round house kicks to the face, lighters & accelerants, fists, elevator assaults, doxxing, vandalism, death threats, destruction of political signs, shutting down free speech, fake gang rape allegations, fake news, fake dossiers, illegal surveillance, cheating with debate questions, black panthers at voting locations, illegals and felon voting rights, personal attacks, hate speech, encroachment of personal space, ...more
Oct 20, 18 7:30 AM appended by SlimeAlive
Whataboutism is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda. Wikipedia
By SlimeAlive (982), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 7:30 AM
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Lol, it says a lot about a perspn to be scared of "doxxing" aka publicizing their real identity.

Don't want your coworkers and supervisors knowing you're part of the Proud Boys? Then don't join the Proud Boys!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 7:41 AM
Slimey, these guys will protect you. Don’t be scared. ...... from SPLC The Oath Keepers, which claims tens of thousands of present and former law enforcement officials and military veterans as members, is one of the largest radical antigovernment groups in the U.S. today. While it claims only to be defending the Constitution, the entire organization is based on a set of baseless conspiracy theories about the federal government working to destroy the liberties of Americans.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 8:10 AM
Here’s a little more history of these true Americans. From SPLC.......Historically, the SPLC has found that antigovernment activity and membership has risen sharply when Democrats take the presidency, as fears of gun grabs and federal action against such groups surges, and decline during Republican administrations, when such fears abate. That doesn’t seem to be the case with Trump in the White House, as the movement appears to be growing instead of shrinking, or at least treading water. ...more
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 8:16 AM
Slimey, here’s a list of fun loving nazis, all identify with your right wing. Again from SPLC...........2017 neo-Nazi hate groups

View all groups by state and by ideology.
*Asterisk denotes headquarters​

America First Committee (Lyons, Illinois)
American Nazi Party (Statewide, California)
American Nazi Party* (Westland , Michigan)
Aryan Nations Sadistic Souls MC (Canton, Illinois)
Aryan Nations Sadistic Souls MC (Grovespring, Missouri)
Aryan ...more
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 8:20 AM
Slimey, last one. Alt right, your base. Good bunch of Christian people. From SPLC..........The racist so-called “alt-right,” which came to prominence in late 2015, is white nationalism’s most recent formulation. While the themes of white dispossession, nostalgia for pre-1960s America and the desire for separatism remain central to the ideology, its edges are softer and porous, allowing for the influence and inclusion of more radical elements, including a suite of neo-Nazi organizations. ...more
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 8:24 AM
..... Morning B. Fred
By Undocumented Democrat (1769), southampton on Oct 20, 18 8:31 AM
You spend too much time and effort Fred. Just remind him that his fear of doxxing amounts to a fear that his peers will know how he really feels and move on.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 8:40 AM
Trumps' "radical views and bigotry" Freddy? Please provide some proof of these assertions. Not Alt Left talking points, but actual proof.
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 20, 18 9:09 AM
If Trump's objectifying and dehumanizing language, or his inhumane policies, or his discriminatory double-standards haven't convinced you yet, nothing we say will.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 9:49 AM
During a Friday night speech in Alabama, President Donald Trump labeled NFL players as "sons of bitches" for failing to stand during the National Anthem. Trumps thinly veiled racism. Of course you’ll disagree, but that’s your party line.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 9:51 AM
In Cedar Rapids, Iowa, on the day of the Iowa caucuses, for instance, he told audience members he would pay their legal fees if they engaged in violence against protesters.

"If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously, OK? Just knock the hell ... I promise you I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise," he said on Feb. 1, 2016.

At a Las Vegas rally later that month, he said security guards were too gentle with ...more
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 9:54 AM
Many of us people of color feel the very same way about the NFL players "HATE" and disrespect for the country ! Recent polls determined that Trump's support in the African American community had surged

THEY SHOULD STAND ! OR SIT ON THE BENCH !

The fact that you have a problem with that is in agreement with your party line.

and disgraceful !
By Undocumented Democrat (1769), southampton on Oct 20, 18 9:58 AM
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Remember how there wasn't enough evidence to deny Kavanaugh a job but, despite their exoneration by DNA, Trump insisted the Central Park Five were guilty?

I wonder why?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 10:05 AM
Because they were obviously guilty and criminal thugs I invite everyone to do there one research on the subject

Central Park Five : On April 19,1989 in Central Park, a female jogger named Trisha Meili was brutally assaulted and raped, leaving her in a coma
By They call me (2466), southampton on Oct 20, 18 10:12 AM
I understand how you feel but the fact is that they were exonerated by DNA evidence, and facts don't care about your feelings.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 10:52 AM
only in the demented world of the ALT LEFT is the term "sons of bitches" considered racist. Carry on Bitter Freddy, your masters must be proud of their little social justice warrior.
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 20, 18 11:02 AM
Bigfresh, what did you call Barack and Michelle Obama? Yeah, that’s not racist at all. Just a little play on words right? To you and your demented crowd your good. Spare me your “ who me?” bs.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 11:22 AM
Barak HUSSEIN Obama and MOOCHELLE Obama is somehow racist?
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 20, 18 11:45 AM
We’re you a birther? Yes or no?
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 11:48 AM
Are you asserting that anyone who questions Barak Hussein Obama's birthplace is doing so because he's half black?! That's truly racist Bitter Freddy.
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 20, 18 4:49 PM
Thanks for verifying
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 5:07 PM
Here’s a study. From vox.......An article appearing on Vox, titled Trump is still reportedly pushing his racist ‘birther’ conspiracy theory about Obama, featured research completed by Philip Klinkner, the James S. Sherman Professor of Government, in 2014 titled The Causes and Consequences of “Birtherism.” Subtitled Seriously, this is still going on, the Nov. 29 Vox story focused on the fact that President Trump is still promoting conspiracy theories about whether former ...more
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 5:13 PM
To conclude....It’s possible the correlation was coincidental. The study acknowledged that whiteness, Republicanism, and racial resentment all tend to correlate, so maybe this really reflects that partisan beliefs, not racial resentment, drive birtherism. But when Klinkner put all of these factors through a statistical control model, he found that racial resentment significantly correlated by itself with birtherism.”
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 5:16 PM
I'm done debating you Bitter Freddy, your extreme alt left beliefs render you incapable of a rational discussion, it's a waste of my time , enjoy your democrat fantasies.
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 20, 18 5:21 PM
Walks like a duck ,quacks like a duck. Must be a duck.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 5:21 PM
There's plenty of good reasons to dislike Obama, but no valid reason left to believe he wasn't born in the U.S.

It's either willful ignorance or outright racism, pick one BF.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 5:24 PM
From The Atlantic......Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center (best known for fighting the Ku Klux Klan and other racist organizations) says that even if birthers are not racists, “they are shameless opportunists perfectly willing to exploit racism for their own personal benefit, proponents of a second Republican ‘Southern strategy.’ ”
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 5:35 PM
Racism is ignorance
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 5:49 PM
That’s the answer I expected, your boxed in. Quack quack quack quack.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 5:57 PM
Perfect ud, no eye brows.my heads way pointy-er, and fatter. But pretty close
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 8:41 AM
The hate that’s allowed on this comments section is rather sad
By toes in the water (688), southampton on Oct 20, 18 9:17 AM
But isn't it enlightening to learn how our friends and neighbors really feel?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 9:50 AM
Very enlightening indeed, I wonder how the victim Trisha Meili would feel about your support of these thugs
By They call me (2466), southampton on Oct 20, 18 10:24 AM
She'd probably be relieved to find out that the folks wrongfully convicted of her rape and murder were eventually exonerated and the actual perpetrator was finally held responsible, wouldn't you?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 10:56 AM
mr. fore1 i have been researching this case this morning and before i revel what i have learned to this audience about these "folks" can i get you to go on the record that you are in fact defending there character ?
By Erin 27 E (1097), hampton bays on Oct 20, 18 1:35 PM
From Wikipedia ... The defendants were tried variously for assault, robbery, riot, rape, sexual abuse, and attempted murder relating to Meili's and other attacks in the park. ...... not being tried for their character.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 2:16 PM
My knowledge is limited to the legal case surrounding their wrongful conviction, subsequent incarceration, and eventual exoneration.

Even if they were deplorable in other ways, that doesn't justify their wrongful conviction, and especially not the death penalty Trump advocated for.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 2:16 PM
fair statement and i agree. but rest assured these were not people you would want for neighbors.
By Erin 27 E (1097), hampton bays on Oct 20, 18 2:30 PM
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I try my best to stay away for that very reason.
By Taz (489), East Quogue on Oct 20, 18 9:22 AM
Specifically what hate are you referring to toes ?

This conversation needs to happen. I respect your views from the past but please we are not made of sugar.

to my knowledge nobody here has supported white supremacist groups and we have declared that time and time again one these boards.

We have yet to see Fred, Mets, Z, HHS denounce BLM or Antifa for what they are!

Is that the hate you are referring to ?
By joe hampton (3191), The Hamptons on Oct 20, 18 9:35 AM
Referring to people who disagree with you as mentally ill, for one.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 9:39 AM
Joe, you called Obama a bicycle seat sniffing Muslim. Your moral high ground to call me on the carpet is laughable.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 20, 18 11:44 AM
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Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam and Mohammed

“The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”

“The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”

“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”

“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”

“Islam ...more
Oct 20, 18 1:24 PM appended by Ditch Bum
We keep hearing about how divisive and unpopular President Trump is, about how “historically” unpopular he is. This is not even close to the truth. Doing an apples to apples comparison using the Gallup poll, Investor’s Business Daily discovered that Trump’s job approval numbers are right in line with three two-term presidents. As of right now, in the Gallup poll, Trump enjoys a 44 percent approval rating. And when Investor’s Business Daily looked at the approval ratings of previous presidents during this same week in their respective presidencies, they found that Trump is tied with Barack Obama (44 percent) and is doing better than both Bill Clinton (41 percent) and even Ronald Reagan (42 percent).
By Ditch Bum (574), Water Mill on Oct 20, 18 1:24 PM
So I got curious about why I've seen the same plain-faced image going around and did some research...

Turns out that people use the NPC meme to make fun of people who follow trends and act the same by FOLLOWING TRENDS AND ACTING THE SAME.

You can't make this stuff up, lol.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 21, 18 8:13 AM
... nice avater you have there Fore
By They call me (2466), southampton on Oct 21, 18 8:53 AM
Likewise TCM! Thank you for following the trend and illustrating my point.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 21, 18 1:11 PM
They are cutting edge fore.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 21, 18 1:17 PM
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CARAVAN CHAOS...

AMERICA OUTRAGED BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT INVASION HEADING TO US BORDER...

STORMS MEXICO BORDER...

WHO IS FUNDING? UN?
By 27dan (2467), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 20, 18 9:27 AM
US Constitution Article IV, Section 4:
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion

Clearly, the Dems despise America. Encouraging lawlessness that will END this country. Never has so much been at stake.
By joe hampton (3191), The Hamptons on Oct 20, 18 9:38 AM
I’m reminded of the invasion every day by the swarming fruit flies on construction sites emanating from the invaders’ food garbage strewn all over the homes, primarily on floors and window ledges when there’s a trash receptacle only feet away. Nobody should have to be stepping over their banana peels, apple cores, pizza toppings, chicken bones, half full fruit drink containers, tamale corn husks, and inhaling fruit flies. Total disregard for no the “No se permite comida ...more
By Sitfu (15), East Quogue on Oct 20, 18 12:40 PM
Trump is paying them. He even offered them HealthCare. Oh, sorry no HealthCare. He killed that system and replaced it with NOTHING!!!
By allpeoplecount (39), eastport on Oct 20, 18 9:42 PM
Ladies, Do not jog alone. Do not jog at night. Use common sense and logic. Something dems lack.
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 20, 18 10:49 AM
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Even when giving advice you can't help but take digs at your political opponents...how sad.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 10:58 AM
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Perry Gershon with glasses = Mr Six Flags

Nothing more than a comedic song & dance.

Vote Zeldin
By Sitfu (15), East Quogue on Oct 20, 18 10:54 AM
Foreborn: The truth hurts.
By P. Revere (92), hampton Bays on Oct 20, 18 11:40 AM
It doesn't hurt me to know what my neighbors really think, that's why I'm here, it just saddens me sometimes.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 20, 18 11:53 AM
i love all of you people, having the same silly arguments over and over again. you're doing a great job.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (574), southampton on Oct 20, 18 11:42 AM
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78K AND GROWING SIGN UP FOR TRUMP-CRUZ RALLY — AT VENUE FOR ONLY 18K…The real news, though, with this 78,000 number is how popular Trump remains with his supporters. The idea that he can still overfill these venues (as he has consistently done all over the country) two years into his presidency is unprecedented.
Oct 20, 18 1:12 PM appended by 27dan
Democrats have already been caught cheating in Texas ... they've been sending out ballots to illegals with the Citizen of U.S. box already checked . THATS WHY I WILL BE WORKING AND CHECKING AT OUR LOCAL POLLS ON ELECTION DAY!
By 27dan (2467), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 20, 18 1:12 PM
Hey Miss Toesinthewater....Is it hate, or is it the truth?
By DiseaseDiocese (179), Riverhead on Oct 20, 18 8:34 PM
Zeldin - 10th Time The Charm?

On May 9, 2017, Lee Zeldin and 216 trogdolyte GOPers partied in the Rose Garden with a strange-looking Orange mascot after they had voted to kill our
HealthCare. Actually, 20 Retread Repubs crossed over to support our HealthCare but not the Trogg Zeldin. In total, nine times Zeldin has voted to kill our coverage. Let's not give him a 10th chance to kill us. Mr. Zeldin thinks we work for hm which is why he has not held a town hall since his constituent-killing ...more
By allpeoplecount (39), eastport on Oct 20, 18 9:28 PM
FRENCH FLEE TO HUNGARY TO ESCAPE MASS MIGRATION EFFECTS
Europeans fleeing home country to escape violence, crime

French citizens are now joining Germans and others seeking a new life in the Hungarian capital of Budapest in order to escape the negative effects of uncontrolled mass migration.

Just don't try and think the Hungarian people are bassackwards while you are going to their country. Stay out of the voting process and support those in Hungry keeping migration out and ...more
By 27dan (2467), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 21, 18 12:00 AM
27dan, right off nuts are us infowars. More fake news for gullible nuts.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 21, 18 6:59 AM
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Thought you guys were AMERICAN nativists and just hung out with The PowerBoys. Trump doesnt give a crap about immigration in France, Hungary and Germany. Where's that Wall Mexico swore to build , pay for and keep us safe? Trump has paid to run immigrants up to the southern border of Mexico so he can fire up the base. Pay attention, 27 dan! Glad we cleared that up?
By allpeoplecount (39), eastport on Oct 21, 18 2:27 AM
Democrats: Perhaps we can get through today without hearing about another act of violence and harassment by the mobs?
By SlimeAlive (982), Southampton on Oct 21, 18 7:46 AM
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Slimey, perhaps. Stop watching trump rally’s, that should do it. No talk of body slamming reporters. No violent rhetoric from the commander in Chief might calm you down.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 21, 18 7:55 AM
You seem defensive. And rightly so.
By SlimeAlive (982), Southampton on Oct 21, 18 8:23 AM
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Wouldn't that imply someone else is on the offensive?

Like the Proud Boys and other similar groups aligned on the right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 21, 18 2:46 PM
The Proud Boys don't start trouble, but if the Alt Left storm troops do, by God they will finish it.
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 21, 18 4:28 PM
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At a boy white duck, fly that flag.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 21, 18 4:33 PM
Right, like if someone throws a plastic bottle they get gang assaulted, or if someone stands in their way they hit the entire crowd with their car.

Those are some great bedfellows you're claiming, and I won't ask you to denounce them. I wouldn't believe you anyway.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 21, 18 4:35 PM
White duck, from SPLC.......McInnes has a well documented and long-running record of blatantly promoting violence and making threats. “We will kill you. That’s the Proud Boys in a nutshell. We will kill you,” he said on his Compound Media show in mid-2016. His followers often repeat his calls for violence and seemed especially emboldened this past summer as they participated in a number of large-scale “free speech” rallies across the country. these are the d bags you ...more
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 21, 18 4:43 PM
More than 4,000 migrants forced their way into Mexico after storming a border fence with Guatemala.
Video captured by Noticias Telemundo shows the moment when the migrants force the gate open and rush into Mexico despite officials efforts to keep the migrants out.We will look like fools if we allow 4000 third world migrants to storm our borders. This is so obviously planned, right before an election.It's full blown War - NWO Globalists versus the USA!
- Vote Democrats OUT of Office!
- ...more
By 27dan (2467), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 21, 18 8:36 AM
Finally the American people have said enough by electing a president who wants to build a border wall. The red wave will only serve as a mandate for the Republicans to do the right thing and finally rebuild the wall and fix our broken immigration laws!
By Undocumented Democrat (1769), southampton on Oct 21, 18 9:24 AM
CARAVAN SWELLS TO 5,000
VOWS TO REACH USA, Thousands of Hondurans in U.S.-bound migrant caravan head into Mexico

Reuters
By Delphine Schrank
ReutersOctober 21, 2018

YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF... JUST WHO IN THE HELL DO THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE ANYWAY !
Oct 21, 18 5:53 PM appended by joe hampton
As those of you who know me will testify... I have absolutely nothing against our very hard working Spanish neighbors.and have gone as far as to advocated that the ones that we allowed to come here and start businesses pay taxes and allow to purchase homes should be allowed to stay. NEVER VOTE ! but stay... but I fail to see how these illegal immigrants marcing here some 5000 strong and demanding everyone get out of there way are somehow deserving of cutting to the front of the line. It has to stop!
By joe hampton (3191), The Hamptons on Oct 21, 18 5:53 PM
Spanish people are from Spain. You mean Latin American or Hispanic, depending on what you're trying to say.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 21, 18 6:22 PM
Joe, your getting the chicken before the egg. They are in southern Mexico.this is another trump talking point, blaming dems for people seeking asylum. It’s obviously working for his base, as you can attest, just lame at face value.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 21, 18 7:21 PM
There was another call published in today’s edition of El Salvador Times for a migrant caravan to be assembling and departing from Santa Ana, El Salvador on October 31st, consisting of hundreds of families.

(EVENTS - PREPARING FOR THE TRIP: More than 230 families among the possible members of the Salvadoran migrant caravan that will seek to reach the United States, El Salvador Times, Ernesto Pérez, 10/21/2018)
Oct 21, 18 7:29 PM appended by SDG1776
The WhatsApp group called "Caravana Santa Ana" has spread through all social networks with the aim of adding people who want to walk en masse to the United States departing El Salvador on Oct 31. Another migrant caravan being organized is scheduled to depart from Venezuela and Nicaragua on Feb 4th. It’s catching on with other countries due to our weak immigration policy and laws.
By SDG1776 (109), Southampton on Oct 21, 18 7:29 PM
Rep. Steve King (R-IA) says men from the “most violent countries in the world” are “invading” the United States through illegal immigration.

Nancy Pelosi: "We Will Welcome the Caravans Here"

VOTE STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN and stop this invasion of the United States using EVERY means necessary.
By They call me (2466), southampton on Oct 21, 18 11:19 PM
Chim chim, Steve king is a white nationalist racist. Figures you’d repost his trash. You can tell a person by the company they keep. In your case the people you repost.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 22, 18 5:07 AM
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And TCM is lying to boot. Nancy Pelosi didn't say that. Take heed Republicans: TCM thinks you're dumb and will assume he's telling the truth.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 22, 18 6:58 AM
CARAVAN INVASION SWELLS TO 7,000
PUSHES DEEPER INTO MEXICO

Stretches more than a mile long as they defiantly continue marching toward the U.S. border MS 13 ? ISIS ? among them ?
By 27dan (2467), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 22, 18 7:01 AM
Can we talk more about how TCM is advancing fake quotes of Nancy Pelosi though?

Republicans: he is calling you stupid. Are you going to take it?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 22, 18 7:07 AM
UNHINGED House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) told a gathering at the 92nd Street Y in New York on Sunday that there may have to be “collateral damage” to those Americans who do not agree with the Democratic Party agenda. In a long, rambling monologue, during which she stumbled on her words and appeared to lose her train of thought, Pelosi said: We have to have total clarity about what we do, when it comes to everything — a woman’s right to choose abortions, gay marriage ...more
By They call me (2466), southampton on Oct 22, 18 7:29 AM
But you admit she didn't actually say "we will welcome the caravans here", right?

Or are you going to stick with the groupthink you pretend to reject with your avatar?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 22, 18 7:34 AM
Our internal polls have Little Lee and his Proud Boys tanking. They are 10 points
down on HealthCare! All Democrats have to do is show up and Loopy Lee goes
home! This is a one time chance to get your family's preexisting conditions covered. Little Lee, his wife, and twin daughters have this coverage--subsidized by you the American People. Ask yourself ONE question, if Rose Garden Lee has it, why shouldn't you and your family have it?
By allpeoplecount (39), eastport on Oct 21, 18 4:55 PM
Sorry but your dreaming ...
By joe hampton (3191), The Hamptons on Oct 21, 18 5:15 PM
Weak 7: Fans Continue to Leave Thousands of Empty Seats in NFL Stadiums!

With the league almost to its halfway point in the 2018 season, stadiums are still not packing the stands.
There was an explosion of fans tweeting out how shocked they were over the number of empty seats for the Washington Redskins and Dallas Cowboys game at FedEx Field. With the Skins playing for first place and hosting their arch rivals, fans were stunned at the number of empty seats in Washington.

STAND!
By Undocumented Democrat (1769), southampton on Oct 22, 18 7:19 AM
The NFC East sure is awful this year, but did anyone else see that clinic put on by the Chiefs last night?

That Chiefs QB sure is something special. Or as I like to say...Mahomes got cojones!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 22, 18 7:25 AM
More Breitbart bull****.

NFL revenue is up.

Trump Trash Talk Can't Touch NFL, Packers Financials Reveal

By Eben Novy-Williams
July 16, 2018, 4:00 PM EDT Updated on July 16, 2018, 5:13 PM EDT
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 22, 18 7:57 PM
FBI ADMITS IT USED MULTIPLE SPIES TO INFILTRATE TRUMP CAMPAIGN
“The FBI has protected information that would identify the identities of other confidential sources who provided information or intelligence to the FBI.”
By Ditch Bum (574), Water Mill on Oct 21, 18 11:36 PM
If I give information to the FBI am I a spy? Do I get a badge and a gun? Can I put it on my resume?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 22, 18 6:51 AM
Trump approval jumps ahead of Obama midterm...

Ohio Has Largest Job Gain in 21 Years!

Texas MAGA crowd in line 24+ hours before event...
By 27dan (2467), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 22, 18 7:03 AM
So on Oct 20 in Elko NV (pop.2) Trump announced a NEW middle class tax cut
is being worked by Lee Zeldin's Trogg compadre Kevin Brady. Trump told reporters on camera that the NEW middle class cut would be passed on or before on Nov 1. Here is the problem: Congress is not in session! No bill can be passed. Straight out Lyin Trump or Stable Senile Trump. Your pick! Wait - Little Lee was just seen rushing for LGA this am. No one told him Congress wasnt in session but his Orange Boss wanted him ...more
By allpeoplecount (39), eastport on Oct 22, 18 7:51 AM
So on Oct 20 in Elko NV (pop.2) Trump announced a NEW middle class tax cut
is being worked by Lee Zeldin's Trogg compadre Kevin Brady. Trump told reporters on camera that the NEW middle class cut would be passed on or before on Nov 1. Here is the problem: Congress is not in session! No bill can be passed. Straight out Lyin Trump or Stable Senile Trump. Your pick! Wait - Little Lee was just seen rushing for LGA this am. No one told him Congress wasnt in session but his Orange Boss wanted him ...more
By allpeoplecount (39), eastport on Oct 22, 18 7:51 AM
Congress returns November 13th.

Poor old coots statements are crookeder than his golf clubs.
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 22, 18 7:53 PM
GROWING INVASION FORCE OVERWHELMS MEXICAN AUTHORITIES – APPROXIMATELY 10,000 NOW TRAVELING THROUGH MEXICO TO U.S. SOUTHERN BORDER

Associated Press: Estimates as to the number of economic migrants varies between 7,000 to 10,000 and the numbers are growing fast The heavily financed horde of Central American migrants has overwhelmed the token resistance from Mexican military and advanced north toward the Southern U.S. border. As described by the Associated Press today: “growing ...more
By Ditch Bum (574), Water Mill on Oct 22, 18 8:16 AM
Ok, I'll bite: if this is a political operation, what is the objective?

How does a massive group of people seeking asylum help Democrats in the midterms?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 22, 18 8:32 AM
We, as a sovereign nation do not owe any asylum seeker a damn thing, if this MOB of potential illegal aliens decides to invade our nation they should be stopped by any means necessary, if they want asylum they should go to the US consulate in Mexico City and get in line, why the special treatment and breathless MSM coverage?
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 22, 18 6:34 PM
The media won't stop talking about it because YOU and TRUMP won't stop talking about it.

Again, if this is a political operation, HOW does it help the democrats?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 22, 18 6:53 PM
Big duck, read your statement. That’s why your not in charge of ANYTHING. Your a good whiner, with a pseudo macho bent. Rugged duck.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 22, 18 6:57 PM
Big duck, To apply for asylum in the United States, you may ask for asylum at a port-of-entry (airport, seaport, or border crossing), or, if you are already in the United States, you may file Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal, at the appropriate Service Center.Jun 18, 2013.......You Cannot Apply for Asylum at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate. ... Therefore, U.S. law does not consider asylum seekers at U.S. embassies and consulates to be “physically present in the ...more
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 22, 18 7:02 PM
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For quite a long time.
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 22, 18 7:51 PM
This “caravan” has been going on for 20 years as refugees flee the violence of Guatemala, Honduras & El Salvador. Most end up in Mexico and are assisted by international refugee groups. Few (as in practically none) are able to walk the 1,000+ miles to the US. Yet another racist fear tactic and the dopes buy in. “Hordes of brown people coming to rape and rob you and steal your American way of life!” Sure knows how to take advantage of his marks, and you never catch wise.
By June Bug (2167), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 23, 18 7:52 PM
@ They call me

I viewed the video to which you refer. The only people who would find Nancy Pelosi's statements unclear are those who can't hold more than one thought in their head at a time. (That would be true believers and Breitbart editors on whose site your plagiarized text appeared.)

Not content with posting Breitbart poo-poo as if it were your own thought, you deceitfully edit Breitbart's own text of Pelosi's speech (Note the elipses.) in order to change the meaning of ...more
Oct 22, 18 8:18 AM appended by highhatsize
@ Ditch Bum - - - - - Your attribution to the Associated Press of the migrant caravan story (supra) is ANOTHER lie. Why do you lot keep doing this? - - - - - It actually comes from that loopy Right-Wing propaganda organ, "The Conservative Treehouse" which unethically edited the original Associated Press copy. - - - - To reiterate, you lot lie as you breathe.
By highhatsize (3743), East Quogue on Oct 22, 18 8:18 AM
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It's like the lie from TCM about Nancy Pelosi.

They think people are stupid, or at least the ones whose personal bias will prevent them from fact-checking.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4234), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 22, 18 8:34 AM
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Conservative treehouse? Sounds like they fell out of the treehouse and sustained major head injuries.
By Fred s (1218), Southampton on Oct 22, 18 6:06 PM
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By Aeshtron (156), Southampton on Oct 22, 18 3:03 PM
TONIGHT: 100,000 SIGNED UP FOR TRUMP-CRUZ RALLY… VENUE HOLDS 18K…
By Ditch Bum (574), Water Mill on Oct 22, 18 4:18 PM
’The Creepy Line’ Documentary Explores How Google and Facebook Can Undermine Democracy

The new documentary The Creepy Line explores how the Masters of the Universe in Silicon Valley can utilize their platforms to suppress speech and undermine democracy — a topic of vital importance for elections in 2018, 2020, and beyond.

Google and Fakebook are the two greatest enemies of the United States. They are the information warriors of the demented left, and actually ...more
By They call me (2466), southampton on Oct 22, 18 5:56 PM
thanks i will check it out, sounds scary and about right
By Erin 27 E (1097), hampton bays on Oct 22, 18 5:58 PM
Anybody receive this email today?

“You may not have heard because the complicit liberal media does not cover news unless it fits their “President Trump and Republicans are evil” narrative, so let me fill you in …

After Hillary Clinton urged her party to denounce civility, our Manhattan Republican Party headquarters was attacked in an act of political destruction.

The other day, an extreme, radical left-wing group attacked our Manhattan Republican ...more
By SDG1776 (109), Southampton on Oct 22, 18 6:10 PM
Ah STFU Rudy, you know you love the least little excuse to squeeze some bucks out of the cultists. And as for those "Republican values" you speak of? You're kidding, right? Unless of course you mean lying, deceit, theft of the national treasury, cruelty, vulgarity, contempt for the least of these, double standards, hypocrisy, voter suppression, with a White House-squatting uber conman spreading those values far and wide.
By June Bug (2167), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 22, 18 7:25 PM
Good God JuneZ, you're are one angry leftist. Hope you get the help you need , especially when the House stays Republican, the Republicans gain seats In the Senate and President Trump wins his second term.
By bigfresh (3762), north sea on Oct 22, 18 7:38 PM
Or it was staged to look like antifa.

Wouldn't put it past those whose "leader" is the greatest prevaricator of the 21st century.
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 22, 18 7:41 PM
Trouble handling the truth, big? Sounds it. A Republican talking about "values" is like a fish riding a bicycle.
By June Bug (2167), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 22, 18 8:38 PM
Wow ,you perfectly described the DemocRATic party .....
By Biba (488), East Hampton on Oct 22, 18 11:40 PM
Republicans: Get out and vote! Don't believe the liberal lies and the media that we have no shot at the house. It can't be done without your votes. Just do it! Not like Kaepernick...but YOU, the voter.
By DiseaseDiocese (179), Riverhead on Oct 22, 18 6:38 PM
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Toyota Center Rocking Massive Crowd

Monday at 7:30 p.m. ET, President Donald Trump will host a rally at NRG Arena in Houston, TX. Video courtesy of the Right Side Broadcast Network Follow on Breitbart.tv

This will be the Mother of all Rallies tonight for Senator Cruz.
Everyone of these 100 K Trump supporters need to take one or two patriots to the polls, don’t go alone!!
Lets Crush the Mob Dems once and for all !!
JOBS NOT MOBS!!
MAGA X 2 !!
TRUMP/CRUZ
By Undocumented Democrat (1769), southampton on Oct 22, 18 8:57 PM
’The Creepy Line’ Documentary Explores How Google and Facebook Can Undermine Democracy

omg i just got done checking this out like you suggested and omg everyone needs to research this for themselves before its too late. please take a look!

By Erin 27 E (1097), hampton bays on Oct 22, 18 9:02 PM
Conspiracy theories are for losers.
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 22, 18 9:09 PM
LEE ZELDIN POSTS WRONG DATE AGAIN FOR ABSENTEE BALLOTS. THIS IS WHO PEOPLE WANT TO REPRESENT THEM? Just like his dad a dirty dirty guy.
By lo-cal (69), southampton on Oct 22, 18 9:19 PM
LEE ZELDIN POSTS WRONG DATE AGAIN FOR ABSENTEE BALLOTS. THIS IS WHO PEOPLE WANT TO REPRESENT THEM? Just like his dad a dirty dirty guy.
By lo-cal (69), southampton on Oct 22, 18 9:19 PM
LEE ZELDIN POSTS WRONG DATE AGAIN FOR ABSENTEE BALLOTS. THIS IS WHO PEOPLE WANT TO REPRESENT THEM? Just like his dad a dirty dirty guy.
By lo-cal (69), southampton on Oct 22, 18 9:19 PM
He sent an apology. It's good enough for me. So is his service to this country, unlike that hack Gershon. The only thing Gershon has served...is himself.
By DiseaseDiocese (179), Riverhead on Oct 22, 18 10:24 PM
To HHS from 10/14/18.......

Israel is 100% legitimate. Of course there are anti Semitic Republicans AND drumroll ...anti Semitic Democrats too !!

Arab "Palestinians" are held in bondage and perpetual refugee status by other Arabs, not Israel or Jews. Israel never once denied any Arab self determination. Israel did not attack the (almost) Palestinian state on 5/14/1948...Also, American Jews donated millions when Israel left Gaza. Then the greenhouses were immediately destroyed ...more
Oct 22, 18 11:31 PM appended by Biba
To continue immediately destroyed by Gazans. That's a bad example of denial of self determination. For factual information about this rational individuals can go to Camera dot org. Bottom line, restrictions on exports really don't matter when the very thing used to produce said exports are destroyed to make rockets to destroy Israel. Homicide and self defense , and defense of a sovereign nation against terror attacks are very different things. Finally J Street most certainly does support BDS. How many times have I told you, just because YOU don't want to believe it, doesn't mean it's not true.
By Biba (488), East Hampton on Oct 22, 18 11:31 PM
@ Biba

Once again you show yourself a delusional, enthralled Likudnik.

I have repeatedly refuted your doctrinaire, unsupportable assertions of Israeli national legitimacy and your defense of its despotic overlordship of 2 million Palestinians.

Rather than go there again, readers can view your current lies about J Street as illustrative of your behavior throughout this entire debate:

In this most recent exchange, I posted J Street's policy statement on BDS and ...more
By highhatsize (3743), East Quogue on Oct 23, 18 8:50 AM
As tariffs continue, panic beginning to sink in among Wisconsin manufacturers

Rick Barrett, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Published 8:05 a.m. ET Oct. 22, 2018 Updated 8:45 a.m. ET Oct. 22, 2018

Across America’s heartland, small and midsize manufacturers are reeling from higher costs and lost business attributed to a breakdown in foreign trade.
By Mr. Z (10564), North Sea on Oct 23, 18 7:07 AM
NBC/Wall Street Journal poll: Trump Popularity, Voter Enthusiasm Reach Record Highs Ahead of Midterms

Just two week ahead of the 2018 midterm elections, President Donald Trump is enjoying an all-time high approval rating of 47 percent, up three points in one month, according to an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll.

I can't think of any conservative I know who is not voting. The pollsters and Dems have no idea what's coming on election day.
By Undocumented Democrat (1769), southampton on Oct 23, 18 8:03 AM
If Democrats Were Honest ,CRTV’s Allie Stuckey is hilarious
Oct 23, 18 4:52 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
You can laugh out load by typing in New Democrat Campaign "Ad" on You tube
By Undocumented Democrat (1769), southampton on Oct 23, 18 4:52 PM
halloween, party, sag harbor,