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Mar 8, 2019 12:37 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Zeldin Votes No On Democrats' Resolution Condemning Bigotry, Wanting It To Name Names

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin. PRESS FILE
Mar 12, 2019 4:19 PM

The U.S. House of Representatives voted in favor of a Democratic resolution on March 7 condemning anti-Semitism, anti-Muslim discrimination and bigotry against minorities. U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin, who had introduced a similar, but less broad, Republican measure weeks ago that also rejected anti-Israel and anti-Semitic hatred, voted against the resolution.

The resolution that was approved last Thursday, introduced by House Democrats, passed the House by a wide margin, 407-23. Mr. Zeldin was one of the 23 who voted against it.

He spoke on the House floor before the vote and said the resolution should name names, as his does, and called out U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar for her comments about Israel, which he considered to be anti-Semitic.

“Now, we can’t come here and just emphatically, solely, forcefully condemn anti-Semitism and name names—but if it was a Republican, we would,” Mr. Zeldin said on the floor. “It’s time to call out these statements for what they are: pointed, bigoted, unreasonable, illegitimate, anti-Semitic.”

In a press release later that day, he called the resolution “spineless” and “watered down.”

He and Ms. Omar have recently traded insults on Twitter after they were both appointed as members of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations in January. He has since called for her removal from the committee.

Calls for this legislation came after weeks of the House Democratic Party quarreling over allegations of anti-Semitism among party officials, an aftermath of Ms. Omar’s recent comments suggesting that pro-Israel American advocates have dual loyalty.

Her comments exposed a rift within the party, one side that has shown unwavering support of the U.S.-Israel relationship and the other that has expressed skepticism of the relationship, with officials that came to the congresswoman’s defense. It also led to increased Islamophobia targeted at Ms. Omar, a Muslim Democrat from Minnesota, by members of the public.

In Mr. Zeldin’s legislation, introduced on January 23, he named nine people who he said have expressed some form of anti-Israel or anti-Semitic hatred in the past, with Ms. Omar among them. He referenced her 2012 tweet, in which she said, “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doing of Israel.”

There has been no action on his resolution.

Ms. Omar has apologized for that tweet since entering office this year. It was one of several apologies she made in the last several months for comments questioning the Israeli government’s influence on U.S. politics.

The text of the House Democrats’ legislation was not finalized until hours before it went to a vote. It rejects “hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values and aspirations of the United States” toward Jews, Muslims and all minorities.

It did not name Ms. Omar or any of the others mentioned in Mr. Zeldin’s text, but it did condemn Ms. Omar’s accusations of dual loyalty—“imputations of dual loyalty threaten American democracy and have no place in American political discourse”—and later notes such accusations’ “insidious and pernicious history.”

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Names? Really? Trump would have to be first on list. Hates crime statistics way up since Trump's election. Certainly no coincidence.
By harbor (400), East Hampton on Mar 8, 19 12:52 PM
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You I agree correct hate crimes do seem to be in the headlines the last few months !

So when do you think Jussie will do jail time for what he has done ?

I don't see anything in the news the last week or so ? Did i miss the story ?
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 8, 19 1:02 PM
The grand jury recommended charges just over two weeks ago, relax.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 8, 19 1:07 PM
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By MoronEliminator (194), Montauk on Mar 8, 19 1:24 PM
Let's not pretend Jussie was an isolated incident, and not merely the most high profile of a wave of hundreds of faked hate crimes, intended to demonize certain people who aren't committing hate crimes at a rate sufficient to maintain the liberal narrative.

Do you have any updates on the charges made against Hijab Girl, the young Muslim woman who claimed Trump supporters ripped off her hijab on the subway? Remember that one?

How about the three black college girls who claimed ...more
By MoronEliminator (194), Montauk on Mar 8, 19 1:35 PM
You live in a fake news bubble provided by Faux News and Alex Jones. You wouldn't know if it was raining unless Hannity told you so.
By johnj (985), Westhampton on Mar 8, 19 1:36 PM
oh john your just like fred you don't know when to stay quiet. have you ever watch Sean hannity ? he backs up what he says with tons of actual data! unlike don lemon or brain stelter. besides we were not talking about fox or cnn we were talking about jussie and the lack of attention it has received after it was unmasked
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 8, 19 1:51 PM
Looks like a legitimate website, if a person were inclined to believe in fake news
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 8, 19 1:53 PM
Erin, but you don’t back up anything with facts. Hannity is an angry load of bs, I wouldn’t watch him if he was the last person on earth.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 8, 19 1:55 PM
I'm sure you're capable of using google Moron, but in case you're not:

The "Hijab Girl" from 2017 copped a plea to two misdemeanors.

The three black UAlbany girls from 2016 were convicted of one misdemeanor and two were expelled from UAlbany while the third was suspended for two years.

That's three out of thousands of hate crimes reported each year.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 8, 19 1:57 PM
Remember the day of Trump's inauguration - who was it burning cars and breaking windows in D.C.? I don't think it was a bunch of conservatives? The left are the biggest haters and sorest losers in the world. Your friend Omar just went against Obama also - have fun with her and AOC as the face of your party!
By HamptonDad (217), Hampton Bays on Mar 8, 19 3:50 PM
What does that have to do with fake hate crimes?

I don't mind criticism of Obama. I frequently point out that he was the first president to assassinate an American citizen extra-judicially by drone strike. He was also the "deporter in-chief", remember?

I think it's great that they're the face of the party for two reasons. Do you want to hear them?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 8, 19 4:03 PM
You. Have. Got. To. Be. Kidding. Me.
By eagleeye (74), Sag Harbor on Mar 8, 19 4:28 PM
First, this article is not about fake hate crimes
Second, I was responding to "harbor", not you
Third, I'm not interested in anything you have to say.
By HamptonDad (217), Hampton Bays on Mar 8, 19 4:52 PM
If you were responding specifically to Harbor you should have used his name because your comment looks like a response to me in the middle of a conversation about fake hate crimes.

Are you sure? They're good reasons! Lol.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 9, 19 8:08 AM
Obama wasn't the "deporter in-chief" - but a nice label given to him by immigration advocates to highlight his immigration failures, none the less.

"Deportations” were higher than any other president, but the total number of people who were actually sent home was lower than any other president. However, there were far fewer returns - meaning - "voluntarily” returning home under the threat of full-blown deportation was a record low - hence - less people were actually "deported" ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 12, 19 12:56 PM
Is it true that "the total number of people who were actually sent home was lower than any other president"? From what data do you conclude that?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 12, 19 1:04 PM
Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Yearbook of Immigration Statistics. There are countless sources detailing the "brilliant" slight of hand. One the one hand, he looked tough on immigration - getting illegal immigration advocacy groups riled up, and on the other, allowed more illegals to remain in the US. But this is a pretty good summary.

High deportation figures are misleading. Los Angeles Times. By Brian Bennett. April 1, 2014.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 13, 19 11:40 AM
Oh right, this is the conversation about whether enforcing criminal consequences of illegal border-crossing at the border is a good thing or not.

I seem to remember that you think it's a bad thing because it inflated the deportation numbers, whereas I think it's a good thing because it enforces the three and ten-year bars.

Happy groundhog day!

"Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 13, 19 12:29 PM
Hampton Dad, those weren't "the left". They were anarchists. Get your facts straight.
By 2329702 (41), East Quogue on Mar 21, 19 11:52 AM
All the way back to Tawana Brawley n Rev Al
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 8, 19 1:48 PM
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Big duck, more bs. That has significants, what was that 30 yrs ago?
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 8, 19 1:54 PM
Just showing that the left has been complicit in falsifying “hate crimes” for a very long time and with the alt leftists gaining some iwervits much worse.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 8, 19 3:24 PM
Three hate crimes being faked in the last three years does not render the tens of thousands in that same time invalid.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 8, 19 3:39 PM
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For me it is embarrassing the Rev Al. still has a show on TV and satellite radio after falsifying “hate crimes it is a disgraceful double standard that as a person of color feels it makes me look bad.
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 8, 19 4:20 PM
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Do you think any person advancing hoaxes should lose their show, or is that view specific to hate crimes?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 8, 19 4:26 PM
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Democrats found it impossible to condemn antisemitism without offending their antisemites.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 8, 19 4:32 PM
Jussie Smollett Indicted on 16 Felony Counts in Hate Hoax Attack

Empire actor Jussie Smollett on Friday was indicted by a grand jury in Chicago on 16 counts of felony disorderly conduct in connection to filing a false report about an alleged hate crime against himself.
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 9, 19 1:52 AM
I’m going to subway today to try the new jessie skillet. 1 noose, 2 large nigerians and a foot long turkey and provolone with black olives.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 9, 19 6:17 AM
“The conservative movement in this country, unfortunately from my point of view, is now the leader on this issue of reform,” Jones said. “You look at Mississippi, a rock-ribbed, total conservative former jailer is now the governor. Governor Bryan cut the prison population and crime at the same time. [Governor Nathan] Deal in Georgia cut the prison population and crime at the same time. . . . What you’re seeing now is Republican governors being tough on the dollars. Tough ...more
Mar 9, 19 10:53 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Van Jones
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 9, 19 10:53 AM
How ironic that the congressman most vociferous is his denunciation of the suggestion that Jewish American legislators have divided loyalties should be the ONLY one whose behavior (as habitual water-carrier for the Likud) has shown that in HIS case the accusation is wholly justified.

All reasonable people agree that anti-Semitism, like Islamophobia, is contemptible and should be condemned. But race or religion cannot be allowed to shield a malefactor from condign criticism of his pernicious ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 9, 19 8:29 AM
Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,[1][2][3] which in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.[7][8][9]
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 9, 19 9:12 AM
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. . . . especially when it comes from a known putz.
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 9, 19 9:18 AM
"Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel," Omar Ilhan

In 2013, Omar described acts of terrorism as a reaction to “our involvement in other people’s affairs,” in the wake of the brutal al-Shabab attack on a Kenyan shopping mall that killed nearly 70 people and wounded another 200.

“When are we gonna decide or realize that terrorism is a reaction? It’s an ideology, it’s a means of ...more
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 9, 19 9:16 AM
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Illegals are law breakers, they are not immigrants, President Donald Trump’s “hire American” policy pushed Americans’ wages up by 3.4 percent in the last 12 months, according to employment data released March 8.

TRUMP 2020 KAG!
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 9, 19 10:50 AM
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Bull****.

That rate just barely eclipsed a post recession high. Adjusted for inflation, which is improving, the actual rate in wage increase 1.7%.

Just like a true believer, just scratch the surface instead of seeing the forest for the trees.
Mar 9, 19 3:15 PM appended by Mr. Z
P.S. Real wage gains were better in 2015.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 9, 19 3:15 PM
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Perhaps trump should follow his hire Americans edict.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 9, 19 11:49 AM
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Perhaps we should all give Omar a second chance...

Ilhan Omar: Obama’s a ‘pretty face’ who got ‘away with murder’ 'Hope and change' was a mirage... March 8, 2019

The employment picture for black Americans under trump is better than ever...

Trump 2020
Mar 9, 19 6:43 PM appended by joe hampton
less illegals means more jobs for all Americans !
By joe hampton (3348), On Vacation on Mar 9, 19 6:43 PM
Capitalism is what has given us all in this country such a fantastic standard of living. The sky is the limit (potentially) for anyone with ability and a work ethic.

Capitalism is what has saved many in the world from poverty.

Why are these leftist fools willing to throw all of it away on the failed system of socialism or anything under the Marxist umbrella ?

I am very happy working hard and keeping what I earn.

Capitalism makes, socialism takes.
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 11, 19 1:37 AM
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Actually Dan, it was socialism that gave this country it's standard of living and made it possible for all those capitalists to succeed. Socialist programs like public education to educate themselves and their future employees, a public road system that allowed them to receive the raw materials they needed or to ship their finished products, Law enforcement to protect their shipped goods from thieves, a navy to protect their commerce on the sea and on and on. My point is not to deride capitalism ...more
By bird (782), Sag Harbor on Mar 11, 19 12:32 PM
Bird, don't worry.

They can't make a cogent point. All you'll get is right wing radio talking head regurgitation.

The Laffer curve was a bigger failure than "horse and sparrow" economics.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 11, 19 2:21 PM
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One can always hope...
By bird (782), Sag Harbor on Mar 11, 19 4:10 PM
Isonomia. Aequitas. Egalitarian. Progressive. ?

There have been generations of hope...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 11, 19 11:01 PM
Education wasn’t free unless you declared yourself broke and bankrupt. In earlier times, banks could not be relied upon for loans and were not the same banks that we recognize today. It was extremely rare for anybody to declare themselves broke and bankrupt just to send their kids to school because in doing so, no butcher, baker, or candlestick maker was going to loan you goods and services on credit; nor would they do business with anybody connected with you.

In fact, people tried ...more
By pigroast (100), East Quogue on Mar 12, 19 1:39 AM
The first free public school in the US, the Mather School, was opened in Dorchester, Massachusetts in 1639. Free public education spread through out the New England states turning them into industrial powerhouses that generated enormous wealth and lead to the US industrial revolution, leaving the more poorly educated South behind. I didn't include commercial banking as a program based in socialism and I'm not sure why you did as it is clearly a capitalist venture. A capitalist venture that was successful ...more
By bird (782), Sag Harbor on Mar 12, 19 10:29 AM
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During the industrial revolution, (and prior), the people that did the labor intensive work were not literate. They were the ones that built the country. It was built on illiterate labor, not educated labor. People hung rifles over their doorways because so many folks couldn't read the Keep Out signs, yet they understood that a rifle & doorway = danger. It does not matter if it's 1639 or 2019. College educated people are not the ones performing manual labor, unless they graduated from college ...more
By pigroast (100), East Quogue on Mar 12, 19 2:19 PM
And with the ongoing automation of manual labor, it won't be non-grads doing it either!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 12, 19 2:34 PM
Pig-roast - I disagree. They may not have been "literate" in great classical literature but they certainly had to be literate in the basic math and language skills that were needed for even the "labor" that drove the industrial revolution. I'm not talking about ditch digging but instead the men who built and ran the machines that were the revolution. The people that saw and worked to the tolerances that the machinery required. This was the end product of education, not a shotgun over the door.
By bird (782), Sag Harbor on Mar 12, 19 3:34 PM
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The orange chimpanzee added two trillion in debt, how much do you have to add to be considered a socialist?
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 11, 19 5:53 AM
is your boy Barry a Socialist?
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 11, 19 6:33 AM
The way republicans spin it, anyone who believes government should play a role in securing a minimum standard of living for its citizens is a socialist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 11, 19 7:01 AM
AOC:
Never had a Child
Never been Married
Never ran a Business
Never bought a Home
Never managed People
Never had a professional Job
Never served on a local Committee
No real-life Experience
But she wants to tell us what the Government needs to do with our Lives and Economy!
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 11, 19 8:19 AM
"great news. my iq test came back negative"

-AOC.
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 11, 19 8:22 AM
Just am much as the orange chimpanzee, according to your definition of your fear mongering socialism.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 11, 19 8:54 AM
Scared much, UD?
JC:
Never had a Child
Never been Married
Never ran a Business
Never bought a Home
Never managed People
Never had a professional Job
Never served on a local Committee
No real-life Experience
Unseating a multi-term, power-entrenched Congressman "real-life experience?" Nah.
Hold my beer, will ya'?
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 11, 19 12:52 PM
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They really can't understand how heaping attention on a rookie congresswoman can backfire.

For example, by showing a majority of voters agree with her:

"81 percent of respondents across the political spectrum support the progressive plan to combat climate change by rapidly weaning the U.S. off fossil fuels."

"59 percent of US voters support raising the top rate to 70 percent, which she said would be applied to income above the first $10 million taxpayers earn."

New ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 11, 19 1:10 PM
Socialism has a long history leading to mass slaughter over the last century, or are you too busy wallowing in ignorance and kindergarten name calling to have noticed that? Slaughter as measured in hundreds of millions of people, all sparked by the same rhetoric of class envy and social justice. Mao didn't promise to kill a hundred million in his cultural revolution. Lenin didn't promise the gulags and a century of oppression, Pol Pot didn't tell people his college socialists would be marching the ...more
By MoronEliminator (194), Montauk on Mar 11, 19 1:40 PM
Hey Moron. Do you recognize that we're already living under many socialist policies?

Have you ever heard of SOCIAL security?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 11, 19 1:42 PM
The right wing dopes haven't figured out bankruptcy is socialism yet.

Privatize profit, socialize the losses.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 11, 19 5:56 PM
No clue. They stick to right wing talking points, never thinking about what they are saying.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 11, 19 7:21 AM
Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) said she had proposed a wealth tax because American taxpayers helped pay for “ultra-millionaires'” success.
Sure sounds like Socialism 101
to me.
The fake Indian is spewing fake capitalism.
What is the incentive to succeed,
If politicians like the fake Indian want to steal, then redistribute what you earned?
That's where the incentive dies, and you simply run out of other people's ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 11, 19 8:17 AM
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Sunday on New York AM 970 radio’s “The Cats Roundtable,” Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-NY) commented on the House resolution to condemn hate in response to Rep. Ilhan Omar’s (D-MN) numerous antisemitic remarks.

The Jewish Republican blasted the House Democrats, saying if Omar were a Republican, the resolution would have named her specifically for her antisemitism, much it like it did for Rep. Steve King (R-IA) in a resolution in January.

DNC 2020: Infanticide + Socialism ...more
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 11, 19 8:27 AM
LONG LIVE LEE ZELDIN
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 11, 19 8:53 AM
Who calls the kettle black? Agent Orange adds two trillion in debt and then has the nerve to call others socialists. Another campaign promise down the tubes, trade deficit increases. Just like his businesses, bankruptcy and disgrace is all this toxic loser understands.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 11, 19 9:04 AM
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Why would Trump care about the national debt? When asked about it he reportedly said "I won't be here" when it blows up.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 11, 19 9:10 AM
You don't need to print anything Drumpf lackey says. Without an original thought in his head, he will just repeat everything the orange chimpanzee says and does.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 11, 19 9:06 AM
Muslim Fox News producer calls out Jeannine Pirro's bigotry: "can you stop spreading this false narrative that somehow Muslims hate America or women who wear a hijab aren’t American enough? You have Muslims working at the same network you do, including myself. K thx."

Fox News condemns Pirro's remarks: “We strongly condemn Jeanine Pirro’s comments about Rep. Ilhan Omar, They do not reflect those of the network and we have addressed the matter with her directly.”

Pirro ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 11, 19 9:08 AM
Pull up your liberal pants and leave your hijab in the hatbox.
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 11, 19 9:18 AM
Hatbox? What era are you from, the Mesozoic?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 11, 19 10:31 AM
Ever see what type of head covering a nun wears?
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 11, 19 1:21 PM
Ilhan Omar thanks Fox News for publicly condemnation of Jeannine Pirro: "Thank you, @FoxNews. No one’s commitment to our constitution should be questioned because of their faith or country of birth."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 11, 19 2:14 PM
A habit is not a burqa. Or a hijab. It supposedly just makes chaste women more modest.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 11, 19 11:12 PM
American nuns, for the most part, stopped wearing habits about 50 years ago, except for those who are cloistered. Where have you been for the last half century. Dump the hajib & burqa now.
Mar 12, 19 1:14 PM appended by themarlinspike
The Answer Is : I hail from the Eisenhower era, and damn proud of it !!!
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 12, 19 1:14 PM
A population that prohibits religious garb is as intolerant as one that requires it.
Mar 12, 19 1:21 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight D. Eisenhower
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 12, 19 1:21 PM
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By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 12, 19 1:28 PM
Hail from the Eisenhower era, top tax rate was 90%. Classic pick and choose hypocritical bitter old white man. Bitter that blacks, minorities, and women still aren't second-class citizens.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 12, 19 2:01 PM
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By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 13, 19 10:08 AM
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By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 13, 19 11:17 AM
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By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 14, 19 8:57 AM
"I despise people who go to the gutter on either the right or the left and hurl rocks at those in the center." Dwight D. Eisenhower

Thanks for the name-calling!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 14, 19 9:06 AM
God Bless Christopher Columbus and his Federal Holiday.
Mar 18, 19 8:02 AM appended by themarlinspike
I LIKE IKE !!!
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 18, 19 8:02 AM
Ike was alright, but I'd rather be like Mike.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 18, 19 1:12 PM
Bird songs of the Mesozoic, great group!
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 11, 19 10:36 AM
Just for S & giggles, I went on YouTube to check in on a couple of 2016 election night media meltdowns....and guess what? They’re all gone. Are you surprised? Me neither. I hope CNN gets exposed for the frauds they are with the $250 million dollar lawsuit by the Lin Wood and the Covington kid. If anyone can begin a change in how the media operates...it’s Lin Wood. And I pray is sets the precedence for future bogus smear campaigns on innocent people. The liberal rush to judgement, I like ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 11, 19 1:15 PM
I think you need to work on improving your search terms.

"2016 election night coverage" has tons of youtube results.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 11, 19 1:41 PM
I knew it was coming so I downloaded them all... There just too good to ever give up! No one is going to take that night away from me as long as I live !!!
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 11, 19 4:02 PM
It was the most fun I have had since Tom Brokaw and John Chancellor at 8:15 on election night 1980 choked on Regans 270 Electoral votes to Carters 17 results on live television !

Man was it great !
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 11, 19 4:18 PM
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Um yes , you’re right, it does. About 98% less than it had a year ago. That’s the point. They took them all down and left us with the left leaning CNN versions. No liberal meltdown compilations for my viewing pleasure anymore.

Anyway, look how good Deblasio is doing in Lib York:

New York City is careening closer to all-out financial bankruptcy for the first time since Mayor Abraham Beame ran the city more than 40 years ago, experts say.

As tax-fleeced businesses ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 11, 19 2:25 PM
Nah, "election night 2016 compilation" has tons of results, they're up there.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 11, 19 2:31 PM
Soooo, NYC is being run the same way trump is leading our government? Is that what your un-named citation is saying?
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 11, 19 4:18 PM
Not quite Bitter Freddy, Trump is an unabashed capitalist who has the best interest of the United States at heart while Comrade Wilhelm is a tax and spend ultra liberal parasite looking to get re-elected with no concern for the productive members of society.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 11, 19 4:24 PM
Bankruptcy is socialism, ergo Trump is one about half a dozen times.over.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 11, 19 5:54 PM
Just checked youtube and the alt left meltdown is still there for all to see! True hysterics from the drama queens at ABC, CBS,MSNBC AND CNN!! What a refreshing reminder of how truly whacked they are. Recommended viewing.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 11, 19 4:36 PM
Ancient history, why don't you comment on socialist orange chimpanzee adding two trillion in debt with our trade deficit growing historically. Let's see, guarantees Mexico is paying for a wall, now he's telling you to pay for it, socialism? Bails out farmers for 12 billion because of his disastrous policy, isn't that socialism? What about it big duck, answer something in relation to Agent Orange!
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 11, 19 4:56 PM
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Your blind hatred for President Trump makes it impossible to have a discussion Mets fan. Perhaps after President Trumps' second term you'll be coherent enough
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 12, 19 8:07 AM
That would seem to imply you're interested in a discussion to begin with. Experience says otherwise.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 12, 19 8:08 AM
Foreign: you are the only left leaning member here who has the ability to have a discussion with those who hold a different position, thank you.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 12, 19 8:17 AM
I appreciate that and wish more people acted in kind.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 12, 19 8:34 AM
At any time, jump in and defend the orange chimpanzee you adore instead of deflecting like l'll johnny does. You abhor socialism, but Agent Orange who ran on balancing the budget, adds two trillion of debt. He's a major culprit in socialism. Just like the rest of his campaign carnival barker promises, McDonald's and Golfing Again hat wearing saps buy his lies. Say a word about our trade deficit as well, come up with some debate instead of the left is hysterical. I know I'm asking too much thought ...more
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 12, 19 9:07 AM
please define socialism Mets, that would be a start.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 12, 19 9:12 AM
Your the one name calling on the right. Socialism, socialism, the left is turning the country into Venezuela. Unemployment insurance, bad? Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security bad? Single mom with kids working full time, food stamps bad? Veterans with PTSD, medicaid bad? Catering to Military industrial complex or $25 billion wall when the Statue of Liberty has always been our monument, that's bad.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 12, 19 9:21 AM
again, please define socialism, then we can actually have a discussion, thanks.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 12, 19 9:28 AM
This is in simple terms, Socialism is an economic system where the ways of making a living (factories, offices, etc.) are owned by a society as a whole, meaning the value made belongs to everyone in that society, instead of a group of private owners. People who agree with this type of system are called socialists.

Now you can discuss it.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 12, 19 9:47 AM
Thanks for the civil response, the new radicals in the Democrat Party , such as Omar and AOC , along with Bernie Sanders have come out in favor of a more socialist system in our still great nation, they are virulently anti capitalism and anti big business and want the government to have more power by giving away more taxpayers money seemingly in order to grow the dependent class. I am in favor of a smaller , less intrusive government with less regulation on business.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 12, 19 10:20 AM
Now you have to give examples, not opinions.please back up the examples with citations from a reputable news source.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 12, 19 10:28 AM
I understand that the last sentence of your paragraph is your political view and I wouldn't fault you for it.

Some of the views you're attributing to politicians you disagree with are also a matter of opinion, but stated as facts.

Does support for some socialist policies make a person "virulently anti capitalism and anti big business"? I don't think so, but you're welcome to your opinion.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 12, 19 10:28 AM
You'll be paying much more taxes under the socialist orange chimpanzee. While one percenters will be enjoying massive tax breaks.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 12, 19 2:05 PM
all one need do is to watch either CNN or MSNBC and watch those listed above speak their minds, from the idea to tax the most productive at confiscatory rates, to a single payer health plan, to AOC championing the demise of the Amazon deal , in her own district no less, then asking for the 3 billion in tax savings to hand out. Listen to them in their own words.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 12, 19 3:23 PM
Is not wanting the government to subsidize Amazon socialist?

Now I've heard everything.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 12, 19 3:25 PM
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allowing a company to keep more of THEIR OWN MONEY is not socialism. The funds are earned by said company , not the government.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 12, 19 3:31 PM
So do you think any form of taxes is socialism?

I think tax breaks for corporations is welfare.
Mar 12, 19 3:32 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
And I'm not even opposed to welfare. I'm in favor of socialist programs where I think they will do a public good, whether for the benefit of people or corporations.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 12, 19 3:32 PM
In the same vain, tariffs are socialist too. Government favoring one business over another. How about soybean farmers receiving 10+ billion in subsidies for the failed tariff attempts?you have selective reasoning when it comes to this subject. Just to add,” all one needs to do is watch either cnn or msnbc” doesn’t further your argument. By telling someone to watch tv isn’t exactly cutting edge style to win an argument.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 12, 19 3:34 PM
Taxes collected from individuals and business are funds EARNED in our capitalist system, so no I do not feel taxes are socialism. Welfare is receiving something for nothing, tax breaks for a business mean that the government is confiscating less of the profits from said business.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 12, 19 3:42 PM
Socialism is government favoring one business over another .so in your explanation you call it socialism lite, it’s still socialism to give tax breaks to business, it favors one over another.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 12, 19 3:49 PM
I understand you believe tax breaks for businesses aren't welfare because welfare is receiving something for nothing.

I would disagree with that definition: welfare is a government benefit granted to those who meet legal qualifications.

That's not to say they don't deserve it. That's just to say they are accepting a handout from the government in the form of lesser taxes than they are required to pay.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 12, 19 4:32 PM
Keeping more of your hard earned money is not a government handout IMHO, After all the money belongs to the business, not the government. We will agree to disagree about welfare being deserved or not. Thanks for the respectful discourse.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 12, 19 5:28 PM
I don’t think anyone implied keeping your money is a government handout.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 12, 19 5:53 PM
Not paying taxes means you use the infrastructure everyone else pays for at no cost. That's called stealing.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 12, 19 6:06 PM
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He might not finish this term. Let's see orange complexion, orange jumpsuit, perfect
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 12, 19 7:57 PM
No, I definitely think being allowed to pay less taxes than you'd otherwise be legally required to is a handout.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 13, 19 7:23 AM
Thanks for your opinion, it means nothing. Trump is a low moral loser and you are following him off the cliff. Go back and re-read the majority of your posts. You call me bitter, yet your posts are vile , nasty and lack any kind of value. Nasty big duck. Maybe you will migrate where you came from.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 11, 19 4:39 PM
Endlessly repeated fanatical beliefs and farcical misconstructions of reality without a shred of substantiation.

Your delusions may relieve your stress - - - as The Donald's repeated lies may relieve his - - - but your self-abuse doesn't change what you both fear.

He's still going to jail.
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 11, 19 9:00 PM
Like Jay Sears
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 11, 19 10:17 PM
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@ joe hampton

Yep.
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 12, 19 7:37 AM
The Trumpsphere:

https://fathom.info/porfiry
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 11, 19 11:27 PM
Perhaps the national debt is growing so much because of all the money Trump is directing to rebuild our infrastructure like he promised us in 2016.

Uh, wait a second...
By VOS (1195), WHB on Mar 12, 19 4:08 AM
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“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there ARE other views”
—William F. Buckley Jr.
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 12, 19 8:50 AM
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DD - Here's another Buckley quote for you: “To fail to experience gratitude when walking through the corridors of the Metropolitan Museum, when listening to the music of Bach or Beethoven, when exercising our freedom to speak, or ... to give, or withhold, our assent, is to fail to recognize how much we have received from the great wellsprings of human talent and concern that gave us Shakespeare, Abraham Lincoln, Mark Twain, our parents, our friends. We need a rebirth of gratitude for those ...more
By bird (782), Sag Harbor on Mar 12, 19 1:59 PM
The MET is funded partly by government funding, partly by contributions from the private sector, both individual and evil corporations, and partly by earned income, hardly socialism. Please elaborate about Mozart.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 12, 19 3:29 PM
"Government funding" is socialism.
"Contributions by multiple members of the private sector" is socialism.
Mozart et al, was supported by patrons of the music; also a form of socialism.
All this goes back to my point above that the careless use of blanket labels is not helpful to the conversation. Instead of saying all socialism is bad/evil, make a specific point and then we can discuss that item. Seems like one of the largest problems we have today as a country is our inability to have ...more
By bird (782), Sag Harbor on Mar 12, 19 3:46 PM
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Conflating socialism and communism is a big part of the problem. Saturn car company was a prime example of capitalism and the tyranny of tradition destroying a successful business model.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 12, 19 6:23 PM
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If the consumer were happy with the product , sales would have been high enough to sustain the business. Sink or swim.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 13, 19 7:23 AM
And you are obviously blatantly ignorant of what ended Saturn Corporation.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 13, 19 7:26 AM
and what was that?
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 13, 19 8:33 AM
GM couldn't keep it's nose out of Saturn's business. As far as "sink or swim", that's horse**** as well. Bankruptcy socializes losses.

So, chew on that for a while...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 13, 19 7:17 PM
He’s quoting William F. Buckley jr. In a retort to your quote by him. It wasn’t his opinion, but Buckley’s quote. You can take it up with WFB jr. , might be a wee bit late though.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 12, 19 3:38 PM
President Donald Trump says he expects “to do a very big number” regarding an anticipated executive order on free speech on college campuses potentially next week.
Mar 12, 19 5:34 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Terminate all federal funding for Berkeley. No federally funded research grants by any federal agency. No federally funded scholarships to students. If Berkeley insists on advancing hate and violence against the right, let them suffer.God Bless President Trump! The Greatest President of Our lifetime!!!!!!
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 12, 19 5:34 PM
So is the money going to his fine friends, y'know the Nazi's and white supremacists.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 12, 19 7:52 PM
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Yes. He’s hiding those white hoods and swastikas so well these days. Glad you brought that up. Whew. What would we do without Metsfan?

Btw, Ilhan Omar is more of a Nazi than Hitler himself.
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 12, 19 11:41 PM
I always just assume it’s the white man’s fault... Saves a lot of time thinking.
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 13, 19 1:24 AM
Come on Joe Really,

A study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences claims that white people contribute more to pollution than black and Latino people, but the latter suffer from it more than the white polluters.

“The air that Americans breathe isn’t equal,” USA Today says in its report on the study.

“Blacks and Hispanics disproportionately breathe air that’s been polluted by non-Hispanic whites, according to a study,” ...more
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 13, 19 7:05 AM
Mets is against free speech on campus, who who have ever thought .
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 13, 19 1:17 AM
Cher exhibits the kind of psychedelic drug induced insanity that is driving much of the Democratic Party (Mets).

These people are not fit to lead and should be confined to rubber rooms.

Left-wing pop icon Cher suggested in a recent social media post that women create laws over men’s bodies like banning the use of Viagra and giving the death penalty for those men who use massage parlors.

“REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THEY’VE GOT GOD GIVEN RIGHT 2 DICTATE WHAT WE ...more
Mar 13, 19 7:09 AM appended by Ditch Bum
Cher “Since the day our founding fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, our country has been run almost exclusively by old white men.” she said. “Thankfully because of Nancy, AOC and other strong women, this is changing.” Todays Dem Party LOL
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 13, 19 7:09 AM
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Somebody should check for a pullstring in the back of all those outfits.

Crazy Crazy Crazy
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 13, 19 7:19 AM
Just Nazi's and white supremacists whom Agent Orange and you closet white sheet wannabes adore.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 13, 19 8:50 AM
Thinking everyone is against you is a medical disorder of some sort.
Mar 13, 19 10:04 AM appended by themarlinspike
LONG LIVE ZELDIN & TRUMP !!!
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 13, 19 10:04 AM
It’s called trumpism pw
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 13, 19 10:05 AM
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I heard David Duke is a fan of Omar. Comments?
By Taz (635), East Quogue on Mar 13, 19 12:19 PM
Not so much a comment as a question: has he said why?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 13, 19 12:35 PM
she's nuts , but irrelevant Ditch
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 13, 19 7:21 AM
- - - and The Donald is STILL going to jail, notwithstanding the delusional twaddle that has been the exclusive content of true believer comments on this thread for the past three days.

Irhan Omar "more of a Nazi than Hitler himself"?

Cher's ironic sarcasm taken as the true gen?

Here's a suggestion, rather than subject yourselves to further intellectual self-abuse - - - take a drink. Takes LOTS of them. They will assuage your fears far more reliably than blinding yourselves ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 13, 19 9:59 AM
Page: Obama DOJ Ordered FBI Not to Prosecute Hillary
Former FBI legal counsel Lisa Page testified to Congress that the Justice Department ordered the FBI not to charge former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton with “gross negligence” by mishandling classified information.

CASE CLOSED !
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 13, 19 11:58 AM
"Not even a smidgen of corruption" - Obama

Biggest lie ever told!

Lock that B tch Up !!
Nothing would be more satisfying.
Here's the real Russian Collusion and the real Obstruction of Justice !! Once again we see the Alinsky tactics of the Socialist Democrats....every charge they have been throwing at Trump, THEY were actually doing......collusion with the Russians, obstruction of justice, all of it.

Time for someone around here to climb up and hide in his hat ...more
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 13, 19 12:09 PM
@ 27dan

Another preposterous, prejudicial misconstruction (a.k.a. another LIE) from another congenitally lying true believer.

The Justice Department declined to bring charges against Hillary Clinton because "[T]hey did not feel they could sustain a charge" (as Lisa Page testified.)

That's what the Justice Department DOES. The FBI is INVESTIGATION & ENFORCEMENT. The Justice Department weighs the evidence that the FBI produces and decides whether a case is sustainable.

You ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 13, 19 12:16 PM
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BOOM ! WHAT WE KNEW ALL A LONG !

It's extremely clear if there is to be a rule of law then Clinton and Obama must be prosecuted along with all of the players who went in for the assist. Really is time for social unrest, no more two tiered justice system.
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 13, 19 12:00 PM
Hit the streets, TCM! Light a car on fire or break a storefront window and put your money where your mouth is!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 13, 19 12:52 PM
those are alt left tactics Foreign, the adults have to work
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 13, 19 6:04 PM
Don't look at me, it was TCM who declared it "really is time for social unrest."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 13, 19 6:08 PM
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BREAKING:


Paul Manafort indicted on fraud charges by Manhattan prosecutors

Manafort was indicted on 16 counts tied to residential mortgage fraud and conspiracy, the indictment says.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 13, 19 7:44 PM
Social unrest does not and should not suggest unprovoked violence just the demanding of results
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 14, 19 1:32 AM
Unrest implies at least some element of disorder, but no matter. Start a letter-writing campaign! Put up posters! I repeat: put your money where your mouth is!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 14, 19 6:59 AM
seems he is doing that every day
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 14, 19 12:02 PM
Are you referring to his comments here?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 14, 19 12:05 PM
“The Justice Department declined to bring charges against Hillary Clinton because "[T]hey did not feel they could sustain a charge" (as Lisa Page testified.)

That's what the Justice Department DOES. The FBI is INVESTIGATION & ENFORCEMENT. The Justice Department weighs the evidence that the FBI produces and decides whether a case is sustainable.

You (and the contemptible liar-in-chief) mendaciously claim that normal procedure was violated. It wasn't.

Shameless duplicity, ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 13, 19 1:42 PM
Perhaps this is a good time to remind everyone that Paul Manafort gave 75 pages of internal polling data to Russian agent Konstantin Kilimnik on August 2, 2016. While he was Chairman of Trump's campaign. Nothing to see there, move along...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 13, 19 7:26 PM
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By MoronEliminator (194), Montauk on Mar 13, 19 7:41 PM
Manafort is in the middle of such a ****storm, they've got plenty to charge him with. Literally, you could just toss darts at the board to pick what might stick.

Just ask the prosecutors over in the SDNY, LOL...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 13, 19 7:48 PM
Hey Moron. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a "America hating traitor" but thanks for the name-calling.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 14, 19 7:02 AM
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Manafort built K Street.

Not cool...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 15, 19 1:56 AM
Politicians built K street.

Really not cool.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 15, 19 2:18 PM
Diseased, she’s changing her tune? Not really. She knows how politics work, trump doesn’t. When all the facts are in, the hammer will fall. You are still calling to prosecute Hillary Clinton. In the mean time trumps associates are being convicted left and right. His presidency and personal life are going to end ugly, that’s my only prediction. Remember it.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 13, 19 2:32 PM
Republicans are mad because they think he's going to be impeached. Pelosi says he isn't going to be impeached and guess what happens...Republicans are still mad.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 13, 19 3:10 PM
Freddy: as an alt left extremist your opinion means nothing!
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 13, 19 3:48 PM
Ha, even
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 13, 19 3:51 PM
Who's next for the orange chimpanzee crime family to be convicted and doing time? I surround myself with the best people. Mexico is paying for the wall. I'm going to have cheaper premiums and better coverage healthcare. I'm going to rebuild the infrastructure of this country. I'm going to defeat Isis in thirty days. I'm going to balance the budget and eliminate the deficit. I'm going to be the law and order President. Remember when you red-hatted saps were all worked up in a lather about his promises. ...more
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 13, 19 8:52 PM
@ DiseaseDiocese

A response by a former Dept. of Justice lawyer that the department informed the FBI that it would not be charging Hillary is grossly misconstrued by mendacious true believers to mean that it was ORDERING the FBI not to charge her. An utterly inane accusation, since, as I have already indicated, the FBI DOESN'T CHARGE anybody. That's a Dept. of Justice prerogative.

As Trump circles the drain ever more tightly and with ever increasing velocity, the specious smears ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 14, 19 12:17 AM
It seems there’s not a day without a new headline about Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., the newcomer to Congress from New York who’s declared, “I’m the boss.”,

She’s also wondered if it’s OK “to still have children” in light of “the world is ending in 12 years.”

She’s also taking heat for alleged campaign violations involving “dark money” while promoting a “green” plan redistributing ...more
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 14, 19 1:38 AM
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@hihatsize

“A response by a former Dept. of Justice lawyer that the department informed the FBI that it would not be charging Hillary is grossly misconstrued by mendacious true believers to mean that it was ORDERING the FBI not to charge her. An utterly inane accusation, since, as I have already indicated, the FBI DOESN'T CHARGE anybody. That's a Dept. of Justice prerogative.“

This is exactly my point. Hillary was afforded special treatment. How is that inane? Why is ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 14, 19 6:41 AM
You rang? Specifically when did I "go after your opinion"?

Does suggesting cuts to Medicare, after promising not to, give Trump all the momentum? What about the resolution rejecting his national emergency?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 14, 19 6:58 AM
Diseased, little touchy this morning huh? Get a grip on yourself , you spew wacky opinions and expect no reply.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 7:16 AM
@ DiseaseDiocese

NORMAL federal criminal procedure is for the FBI to investigate and provide evidence to the Justice Department which decides on the basis of that evidence whether to file charges. That is precisely the procedure that was followed in Hillary's case, without preference or favor.

After consultation with the FBI the Justice Department notified the bureau that it wouldn't be filing charges because the facts didn't support the case.

True believers, ever desperate ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 14, 19 8:57 AM
mr hat you are so full of it
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 14, 19 12:03 PM
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His post is verifiable truth, truth he's full of. So good on ya' for recognizing it.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 14, 19 9:09 PM
Typical misdirection semantics. *Sigh*...BUT the FBI DOES have the role of investigating and recommending charges. If it doesn't do that, there are no charges to file and that is exactly what transpired.

"without preference or favor."

That is of course, your personal opinion and nothing more, for what that is worth. Actual evidence of preferential treatment is to the contrary.

"After consultation with the FBI the Justice Department notified the bureau that it wouldn't ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 14, 19 11:26 AM
You're acting like she was the first member of a presidential administration to maintain outside e-mail and conduct business through it. She wasn't even the only Secretary of State to do it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 14, 19 11:53 AM
You're acting like transmitting and receiving classified inforamation on non-secure servers is ok.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 14, 19 1:07 PM
@ Po Boy

Quote:

"Actual evidence of preferential treatment is to the contrary. ...

The "facts" clearly suggest otherwise."

----------------------------------------------------

I did so much prefer it when you posted irrelevant (or actually contradictory) citations in attempted support of your cant rather than lazily pronouncing naked, unsubstantiated assertions (as above.) Knocking those softballs out of the park was so much fun! By contrast, simply ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 15, 19 2:32 AM
What a bunch of psychobabble*.

Meanwhile, we've learned in the last 23 hours this, from almost a year ago,...Peter Strzok: Clinton, DOJ struck deal that blocked FBI access to Clinton Foundation emails on her private server. By Jerry Dunleavy March 14, 2019. Washington Times.

Ain't it good to be a Democrat, especially, even better when you're a Democratic presidential candidate. What a sweetheart deal by the Obama DoJ.

P.S. I do continue to wonder what you're preferred ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 15, 19 10:33 AM
If the DOJ thought Clinton's private e-mails were relevant to their investigation of her public e-mails they would've gotten a warrant.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 15, 19 10:39 AM
@ Po Boy

Indeed, Po Boy, the semantics (i.e. the "meaning") of language is essential for intelligible communication. It is for this reason that when a person opines, for instance, "I like ice cream" that virtually everyone takes him to mean that he likes ice cream, but probably not spinach-flavored ice cream. (Vide "border wall"/"Trump's Wall".)

Thanks for the reference that, predictably, is irrelevant to your assertion that Hillary committed a crime by having classified information ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 15, 19 11:29 AM
It's interesting hat you can't/won't respond to even the simplest of softball questions... "Trump wall" or "a wall" in the recent shutdown funding debate?? Hmmm???

"is irrelevant to your assertion that Hillary committed a crime by having classified information on her server."

The bloviating aside, it is moments like this that reinforce you are INCAPABLE of being taken seriously...suggesting in the face of common knowledge and as detailed by the OIG, simple facts that Hillary DID ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 15, 19 12:53 PM
e-mails under subpoena? Deleted Devices under subpoena? Destroyed and wiped with bleach bit, oh like with a cloth? NOT If an average American pulled this stunt, they would have been prosecuted, but the Clintons are seemingly above the law. Their sycophants are blind.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 14, 19 11:56 AM
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If that ain't the pot trying to call the kettle black,. Perhaps you should call for investigating Colin Powell next.

Bankruptcy is socialism.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 14, 19 1:48 PM
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Nice deflection JuneZ,
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 15, 19 8:13 AM
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Bankruptcy socialize losses.

Get busy dealin'...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 16, 19 9:52 PM
Tucson Sector Border Patrol agents say they apprehended nearly 400 migrants in a 48-hour period after they exploited outdated border vehicle barriers to illegally enter the U.S......400 undocumented democrats entered our country illegally. Otherwise known as Tuesday.
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 14, 19 12:09 PM
Run Beto run!! You will be an excellent addition to the loony bin and I pray you win to face Trump. He’s more phony than Pocahontas!!
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 14, 19 9:16 PM
I like Yang personally, but what I really like is having so many choices. I have a hard time supporting someone for president if they lost their most recent election, but the more the merrier!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 15, 19 9:57 AM
Figures you’d vote for a guy in the new Elementary School Party. You know, the party that offers everyone free money and things to get your vote? But it’s almost guaranteed he’ll raise your taxes....and probably over the amount he wants to give to you. So, take my money...then give it back. GENIUS! Basically every article on the guy mentions him giving away free cash. Read that again. He wants to give you FREE cash. Huh?
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 15, 19 12:38 PM
My taxes would definitely go up if UBI was passed and I wouldn't get in on the action with Yang's plan (because it would only benefit people who make less than$12K/year) but I'd still support it (with reasonable limitations).

Is it really so hard to imagine someone voting to raise their own taxes? Maybe I'm doing well enough.

I don't think he has a snowball's chance but I like Yang!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 15, 19 12:55 PM
It's incomprehensible to me how someone would vote to raise their taxes! One can donate to the charity of their choice if they feel a need to financially support a cause, but to give MORE than we do to the government with the hope the funds will go where we feel they're needed is a fool's errand.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 16, 19 8:31 AM
I do support charitable organizations but I also don't think they're capable of addressing all kinds of problems. When I vote to raise my own taxes it's because I think we (the fortunate) should all contribute to solving those problems, but let's caricature your view a little bit:

What if people only voted to decrease their taxes? Would we wind up with 0% tax for everyone? How would we pay for anything?

How much road do you think we can pave with charity?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 16, 19 8:46 AM
Sorry Foreign but I didn't advocate for NO taxes, we need to fund vital services. IMHO we are overtaxed , with a lot of funds going to unwarranted programs with more misspent on fraud, unions and corruption. No way I would voluntarily give them more.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 16, 19 12:10 PM
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no one votes to raise taxes on themselves they only vote to raise taxes on "the rich" its jealousy of others peoples success
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 16, 19 12:31 PM
Well that's just not true, Erin. For an obvious example, a "rich" democrat still votes to raise taxes on themselves when they vote, don't they?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 17, 19 1:10 AM
And in a new low even for right wing crackpot talking heads, Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh said Friday there's a theory that the New Zealand shooting massacre was actually a false flag attack conducted to boost the political left and the gun control movement. Yes, Mr Limbaugh has put forward the proposition that the murder of 49 people in New Zealand was actually a plot by the left to advance gun control.
By bird (782), Sag Harbor on Mar 15, 19 6:05 PM
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ISIS, even as its so-called caliphate continues to crumble, disseminated a new propaganda film this week urging the jihadi remnants in the group’s last sliver of land in Syria not to worry about their possible demise because they will end up in “paradise” while their enemies will go to “hell.”

“Tomorrow, God willing, we will be in paradise and they will be burning in hell,” an ISIS militant identified as Abu Abd al-Azeem in the video said, Reuters ...more
Mar 16, 19 12:36 PM appended by Ditch Bum
"all ISIS wanted to do is apply God’s law in the form of sharia" What do ISIS, Linda Sarsour and Rep. Omar have in common?
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 16, 19 12:36 PM
@ Po Boy

You once again fail to show INTENT, without which there is no crime. (Indeed, you make no attempt to do so.) Instead, you misdirect attention from your failure by claiming that there was classified information on Hillary's server, a fact that was never in dispute.

You follow this non-sequitur with an unintelligible reference to wall terminology in use currently as if it had any bearing on your four-month-old lie that the Border Patrol supports Trump's Wall.

With ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 16, 19 12:31 AM
you said this "on your four-month-old lie that the Border Patrol supports Trump's Wall."
three times already and people here have answered with a recent quote from the head of president obamas border patrol, showing his support for the wall as being essential! stop droning on with the same bull and go back and look for yourself the last few times you said this!

the border patrol absolutely supports this president and the wall !
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 16, 19 12:28 PM
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Hat can't/won't even answer the simplest of questions...

Was the $5.7 million requested in the recent budget negotiations for the "Trump wall" or "a wall?"

He'd rather dabble in verbal theatrics.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 19, 19 8:28 AM
Paris (AFP) - After weeks of declining participation, France's "yellow vest" protest movement attempted to rebound on Saturday with a major rally in Paris which quickly turned violent.

A large crowd gathered on the Champs-Elysees avenue for the 18th straight week of anti-government protests which initially rocked President Emmanuel Macron's administration, forcing him to denounce more Muslim Immigration.

France is showing what socialism brings! Our open borders, globalist, ruling ...more
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 16, 19 6:00 PM
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Nothing will happen to strzok,Comey, page, ohr, Hillary, bill, Lynch, rosenstein, weinberger, clapper,Steele or the rest of them. Nothing will happen to trump either. It’s all one big joke. And do you know who the joke is on? It’s on US!! All of us. I have found through the years that the days I don’t concentrate on politics...are my best days. Love and respect one another regardless of political views....and wake up every day with the main goal of being happy. Peace, my brothers.
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 16, 19 9:08 PM
420-0

Somebody must be high to spin that into a win...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 16, 19 9:51 PM
The MSM, especially CNN, MSNBC go on daily and insult the President, make defamatory comments about him, While at the same time they are worried about insulting an anti-Semitic, anti-American, ungrateful Muslim Somali refugee! Isn't that typical? They're not worried about all of us offended by the views of the newest, hateful, loudmouth Representative from Minneapolis, are they? Sharia has no place in US society- it is anti-freedom and anti-democratic.This is why the 2nd amendment must NEVER fall.
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 17, 19 12:16 PM
Ditch bum, the difference is, media does not go after trumps relitgion, which in his case is non existent. It doesn’t go after his ethnicity. You see the difference?as to the rest of your comment, do you smoke weed? My advice is you should.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 17, 19 1:12 PM
Interesting double standard, you seem to want to protect the rights of those who practice under Sharia law and then suggest Ditch goes to smoke weed. I would venture to guess your position is purely ideological and I do not think you have a clue about Sharia and your defense of such a "religion"

Do you think they would tolerate a typical NYC gay man who smokes weed among them? Or the right of a woman to do just about anything ? There stated mission is to blend in to the culture the spread ...more
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 17, 19 2:22 PM
Dan: Do you think all Muslims are the same?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 17, 19 2:41 PM
No , I do not.... but if you are practicing Sharia or refuse to openly denounce those who do, then I do not think you fit in to the ideology and founding principles of this country and the constitution of our republic.

I would say the most progressive among us on this board would disagree with that and that is curious to me since it is gay couples and woman who have the most to lose under such a culture!

So why do you welcome this into your country ? Have you not seen what has ...more
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 18, 19 1:00 AM
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Where the Muslims are not happy:

They're not happy in Gaza.
They're not happy in Egypt.
They're not happy in Libya.
They're not happy in Morocco.
They're not happy in Iran.
They're not happy in Iraq.
They're not happy in Yemen.
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria.
They're not happy in Lebanon.
They're not happy in Indonesia.

So, where are they happy?

They're happy in Australia.
They're ...more
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 18, 19 2:26 AM
Dan: I don't require my neighbors to apologize for the acts of others, but I certainly wouldn't welcome anyone who wants too much say into how I live MY life.

The rest of your comment (and all of Ditch's) is nativist fear. I don't think America has any single "identity" that any of us need to conform to. The whole point of being American is the freedom to define ourselves.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 18, 19 6:09 AM
No single identity and freedom to defining yourself is one thing, failure to adapt and assimilate to the cultural customs and attitudes is another.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 19, 19 11:08 AM
No, they're the same thing.

People are not required to make you comfortable when they move here, they are simply required to let you live as you want to live.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 11:43 AM
And there in lies the problem.

No, there not the same thing. At some level, what has made the United States great thus far, is a common cultural attitude and bond. We can have differences, define ourselves, be different yada yada yada... but....differences in and of itself, is not what makes an American.

Diversity is not, by itself, a strength. The only thing that ever allowed for diversity to be viewed as a strength was the uniting culture. With the Melting Pot long gone which ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 19, 19 12:29 PM
I get it, you want other people to make you feel comfortable.

I'm just reminding you that they're simply not required to.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 12:36 PM
I get it. People like yourself make you feel comfortable.

I'm just reminding you that there are implications when they don't assimilate.





By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 20, 19 10:28 AM
What do you mean when you say people like myself?

What are the implications of failing to assimilate?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 20, 19 10:31 AM
Happy Ground Hog Day!
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 21, 19 3:09 PM
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I think this is actually the first time we've had this particular conversation, but the same to you anyway!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 21, 19 9:43 PM
27dan, are you implying that ditch bum is a gay nyc man?as to the rest of your comment, who is practicing sharia law? I think your lack of religious tolerance is kinda funny, not in a ha ha funny way.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 17, 19 2:38 PM
Sharia law trumps the local laws and customs in the neighborhoods dominated by Radical Islam. Once they are the majority they do not recognize the restrictions put on them by local courts in the country's they immigrate to.

America is a country of laws. yes it is true we do not interfere with the right to practice your religion, but the law of the land must come first. We do not and should not allow radical religious belifs that brake the law such as those held by radical Christian groups ...more
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 18, 19 1:12 AM
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The ability to have 40 wives in Utah notwithstanding, I agree.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 18, 19 6:10 AM
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sharia on homosexuality

(p17.3) - The Prophet (Allah Bless him and give him peace) said: "Kill the one who sodomizes and the one who lets it be done to him."

"27dan, are you implying that ditch bum is a gay nyc man?as to the rest of your comment, who is practicing sharia law? I think your lack of religious tolerance is kinda funny"

i don't find it funny one bit fred and fail to see how you translate such beliefs as the above example as religious tolerance ?

By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 18, 19 7:56 AM
Doesn't the Christian Bible also disapprove of same sex relationships?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 18, 19 9:18 AM
Isn't that a misinterpretation of the historical interpretation of the Christian Bible and the more recent?

Jesus teaches us that loving each other is far more important than strictly following interpretations of writings. After all, the first commandment is to love God and the second is to love others as you love yourself - not kill them.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 18, 19 12:56 PM
Don't different Muslims also have different interpretations of their holy book?

If we entertain different interpretations of "if a man lies with a man as with a woman they shall be put to death" then why don't we entertain different interpretations of similar passages in the Koran?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 18, 19 1:11 PM
Don't some of those "different interpretations" of the Koran involve hate and terrorism, let alone, a different set of principles than the accepted standard of the mainstream laws of the United States?

Aren't they really literal interpretations, not "different interpretations"?"
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 18, 19 3:18 PM
Sure, some people interpret all holy books literally, just as many don't.

Do you think the ones who do are representative of all adherents when it comes to some religions but not others?

Religion is not inherently dumb but zealotry is, regardless of your preferred deity.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 18, 19 3:40 PM
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And gee, what does the "Good Book" say about homosexuals?

The hypocrisy knows no bounds.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 19, 19 4:00 AM
Old Testament of New Testament JuneZ? Muslims TODAY kill homosexuals and stone adulterers , along with innocent "infidels" , they really do practice what they preach!
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 19, 19 7:22 AM
But do they kill homosexuals and stone adulterers in Hampton Bays? In New York state? In the United States?

Call me callous but what happens in other countries doesn't matter to me as much as what happens here.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 10:33 AM
Good thing for Trump the Western world doesn't stone adulterers.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 20, 19 6:17 PM
It’s still religious intolerance. “Yes it is true we do not interfere with the right to practice your religion “. But then you say we should. Should we have a commission who decides which religion is good or bad? You are on a slippery slope with your beliefs. It goes against everything we stand for. I don’t know what to make of you, but I know you are anti American and a threat to our way of life.it all starts with people like you, go back in history, it doesn’t end ...more
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 18, 19 5:23 AM
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i don't know what to make of you ! How do you defend / support sharia with any conscience? you must be mad to say " it goes against everything we stand for "

really?

so you are for the way sharia community's treat woman ?

really?

i dare you to go on record supporting those beliefs in the name of America !

you are a hypocrite and a lier!

m3.4 - 3.7 say that a woman may not "conduct her own marriage", meaning that she is not free to marry by ...more
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 18, 19 7:47 AM
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Leviticus and Deuteronomy are both also pretty bad. Does that mean all Christians believe that "no woman [may] teach or have authority over men"?

How about you go on record supporting or rejecting THAT?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 18, 19 10:57 AM
Erin, save your breath. You're arguing with the same haters of America that support Antifa.

Yes, they ARE against everything America has stood for.

By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 18, 19 3:21 PM
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Yes, please Erin. Save your breath and DON'T reject the biblical belief that women are not equal to men.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 18, 19 3:41 PM
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More horse**** from "the right". Try these on for size...


1 Corinthians 11:5 But every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven.

Ecclesiastes 25:22 "Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die."

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire."

Ecclesiastes ...more
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 18, 19 8:35 PM
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As a true non-believer you would be of the literal interpretation mindset without context of cross reference passages, general context and ignorance to language nuances ages ago. In other words, as a non-believer, literal translation of passages mean what you want them to mean without consideration of context or the spirit intended.

By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 19, 19 8:23 AM
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We get it, Po. You think a handful of passages are representative of Islam but not Christianity, and it's because of your own bias.

Let's be clear: nobody's religion is any more or less foolish than anyone else's.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 8:46 AM
Islam is about 1000 years behind the times.
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 19, 19 8:51 AM
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But molesting young altar boys is right on schedule. Not only has this despicable, heinous act been done thousands of times, the church in all of it's noble airs covered it up. Despicable. Nothing like having Santa Claus for adults.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 19, 19 9:07 AM
If you watched FOX News you would see the massive public Christian outcry on this shameful & unforgivable matter which resulted in ongoing & repeated Papal apologizes, giant lawsuits, Bishop firings and cleric jailings over recent years. Now you cite apologizes for your religious side's heinous actions too, but please don't wait another thousand years.
Mar 19, 19 10:19 AM appended by themarlinspike
*** But do they kill homosexuals and stone adulterers in Hampton Bays? In New York state? In the United States? Call me callous but what happens in other countries doesn't matter to me as much as what happens here. By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5858), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 10:33 AM ***
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 19, 19 10:19 AM
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Imams (or Muslim priests) regularly speak out against terrorism.

How many examples will it take to get you to admit you're wrong?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 10:35 AM
"We get it, Po. You think a handful of passages are representative of Islam but not Christianity, and it's because of your own bias."

You get nothing - that may be the dumbest thing you've posted yet and a demonstration of you're own personal bias for you know basically nothing about me. I have both friends and coworkers that are of the Islam faith. What I am referring to is not representative of there beliefs, but the beliefs of those that have hijacked their religion.

While ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 19, 19 10:48 AM
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"Imams (or Muslim priests) regularly speak out against terrorism."

You can't possibly think anyone is referring to those that practice Islam peacefully when we're speaking out against extremists and violence.

More game playing from the Left. Pathetic.



By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 19, 19 10:53 AM
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Are you attempting to compare the Violence committed in the name of ALLAH in today's world with Christianity?
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 19, 19 10:53 AM
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He is.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 19, 19 11:00 AM
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I definitely think PW, along with others here, attributes the acts of violent extremists to all Muslims, evidenced by his challenge to "cite apologizes for your religious side's heinous actions too."

If you don't share their belief that Islam is incompatible with an American way of life, please say so.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 11:02 AM
An adherent to Sharia Law will not be able to live within the law in the USA.The constitution and Sharia are diametrically opposed
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 19, 19 11:22 AM
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Translation: You, and others here, think jihadists slamming airplanes into buildings and committing mass beheadings has the moral equivalence to the despicable acts of molestation and the lone prolife activist who murders an abortion doctor.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 19, 19 11:28 AM
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Anyone willing to commit violence in the name of any religion is unwelcome.

Anyone who sympathizes with such acts is equally culpable and unwelcome.

Sharia is also just a word can be interpreted at will, so I'd rather be more specific in my criticisms.

If you're not interested in forcing others to live as you choose to, then you are welcome in my book.
Mar 19, 19 11:41 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I also noticed you chose not to reject the belief that Islam is wholly incompatible with an American way of life. Tsk tsk.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 11:41 AM
I agree fore, they cannot accept the fact people are different.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 19, 19 11:50 AM
You two should pay closer attention to what people write.



By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 19, 19 12:17 PM
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There are certain beliefs that shouldn't be welcome in the United States, such as the beliefs that LGBT people or women are lesser, or that violence in the name of religion is justified.

Those beliefs are also not unique to Islam. How's that?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 12:26 PM
No those beliefs are not unique to Islam but those beliefs seem to be prevalent is Sharia culture... In any event we can agree that those beliefs ARE NOT WELCOME in the United States ! Thank you for having the courage to openly state that !

It would be nice to here that from Fred, Junezy and Mets as well... not expecting as much from them.
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 19, 19 1:38 PM
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Christianity has ostracized homosexuals up until this very day and most likely going forward. You should really quit while you're ahead.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 19, 19 2:10 PM
Hey joe, I don’t speak for anyone but myself. I don’t have to apologize when white supremacy rears it’s ugly head, because I’m white. I don’t care what any religion does, as long as they don’t break the law. This whole overblown argument about sharia law is a joke. I see all your comments on here, Muslims are your boogie man, that’s your deal. I have a problem with intolerant people who’s beliefs are distorted by simple prejudices.its a foolish argument, ...more
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 19, 19 3:36 PM
I think it's the word "sharia" that is their boogeyman. However, while Muslims are compelled to follow "sharia" by the Koran, what the word actually means varies widely depending on different interpretations.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 3:55 PM
Either way it’s ridiculous.the country is founded on the principle of separation of church and state. Let’s keep it that way.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 19, 19 4:02 PM
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Are Muslims tolerant?
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Mar 19, 19 5:30 PM
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Are you asking a yes/no question about 2 billion people?

Do you really think the answer is the same for all of them?

That's offensive.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 6:00 PM
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Should I ask every Muslim? Or just take a wild guess? Every interaction I’ve had with Muslims has been positive.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 19, 19 6:00 PM
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until you run into a fundamentalist who would behead you and be ready for the 47 virgins in paradise, Inshallah of course.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 19, 19 7:44 PM
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By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 19, 19 7:45 PM
BF: White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 7:56 PM
So, scripture is subject to etymology, but the Second Amendment is not. Check.

Socialism, Sharia, and taxes. The "right wing" boogeyman "triumverate", or troika, as it were...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 19, 19 9:39 PM
Good luck with that. I have a greater chance of getting hit by lightning while riding a bicycle and flying a kite, kinda slim odds. My advice to you is, speak to strangers.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 19, 19 9:47 PM
fore white american men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than muslim foreigners.

good luck explaining that to there wives and daughters!


By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 20, 19 12:55 AM
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Strangely-missing from that comment is sympathy for the victims of white American male terrorists, which outnumber the victims of Islamic terrorists in the US.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 20, 19 6:00 AM
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Ooooh it’s offensive...that sounds so familiar
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Mar 20, 19 8:36 AM
The takeaway from this thread : Fred s says he's different than everyone and Fore1gnBornHBgrown is really afraid of white American men. Very interesting.
Mar 20, 19 8:39 AM appended by themarlinspike
I agree fore, they cannot accept the fact people are different. By Fred s (2176), Southampton on Mar 19, 19 11:50 AM, AND White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners. By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5867), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 19, 19 7:56 PM
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 20, 19 8:39 AM
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To generalize billions of people? Yeah, that's offensive, and you should be ashamed.
Mar 20, 19 8:40 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Hi Marlin, please elaborate: from what part of my statement did you infer fear?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 20, 19 8:40 AM
Ah yes let me rephrase that Freddy ...is Islam tolerant?
Mar 20, 19 8:43 AM appended by Biba
Hahahaha thanks for your deflecting input Freddyfore
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Mar 20, 19 8:43 AM
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Islam is an abstract belief and incapable of tolerance on its own.

Its practitioners are the tolerant or intolerant ones, and just like with any religion both exist.
Mar 20, 19 9:00 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Is it deflection to point out that both tolerant and intolerant muslims, jews, and christians exist?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 20, 19 9:00 AM
CNN & CNBC are in collusion with Islamic intolerance.
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 21, 19 8:06 AM
How so? Please elaborate, PW.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 21, 19 8:52 AM
Hahahaha
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Mar 22, 19 5:11 PM
@ Ditch Bum & 27dan

Stupid, ignorant, unexamined prejudice unrelieved by any sort of rational analysis that would challenge those simple-minded misconceptions that provide you an illusory sense of order in a chaotic world. You willfully blind, xenophobic true believes are at once the greatest threat to those qualities that have made our republic the country in which everyone in the world wants to live and are, at the same time, the greatest embarrassment to every Americans who uses his ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 18, 19 7:56 AM
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A very interesting and telling exchange of support through denial .
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 18, 19 8:03 AM
Pseudo intellectual clap trap O Pompous One, liberalism is a mental disorder.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 18, 19 8:36 AM
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@ bigfresh

"[T]rue believers are ... the greatest embarrassment to every Americans who uses his head for something other than a place to hold his hat."
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Thanks for volunteering.
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 18, 19 9:09 AM
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NYU to host far-left political activist Linda Sarsour next week. She has close ties to anti-Semitic Calypso Louis Farrakhan.

Sarsour is an advocate for the Fake Palestinian people who are all Arabs from the surrounding Arab Nations. They were placed there to be a thorn in the side of Israel.

Israel is Sovereign Country and Jerusalem is its Eternal Capital. It is mentioned over 800+ times in the Bible - ZERO times in the Quran. Someone ought to give Sarsour a Bible.
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 20, 19 1:05 AM
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By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 18, 19 4:11 PM
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A pompous , verbose twit with a handy thesaurus is the final word on , nothing actually, carry on.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 19, 19 8:38 AM
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You missed the semi-colon.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 19, 19 10:04 PM
“I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line and always have maintained it. I guarantee it”—Barack Obama 4/10/16


“Obama wants to know everything we’re doing”—Lisa Page to Peter Strzok 9/2/16
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 19, 19 7:29 PM
Once Trump signed the CLOUD Act into law, the prosecution received a mother lode/veritable treasure trove when they went back to court regarding Cohen's gmail account.

GOOD LUCK, TRUE BELIEVERS!! THE INCREDIBLE DRUMPF IS ON HIS WAY!!
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 19, 19 11:09 PM
worst prez in modern history.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 19, 19 7:38 PM
"When you get to be President, there are all those things, the honors, the twenty-one gun salutes, all those things. You have to remember it isn't for you. It's for the Presidency."

~ Harry S Truman


If the GOP plan was to create discord and chaos via a self consumed, aggrandizing, narcissistic poster child for the ills of generational wealth, it succeeded. Swimmingly.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 19, 19 11:04 PM
The Latest: Father, son are first mosque dead to be buried
an hour ago

Courtesy of the AP wire


Keep your killing machines at the armory. Or, in a F****** locker at the gun club. Perhaps the latter would help.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 19, 19 10:14 PM
it did not help the folks at charlie hebdo did it .
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 20, 19 12:57 AM
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Didn’t do a thing for the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal church victims either.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 20, 19 6:15 AM
@ Po Boy

The question at hand (which has been the question going on now for four months) is:

"Did you lie when you claimed that the Border Patrol supports Trump's Wall?"

- - - and - - -

"Did you lie when you claimed that every reference to 'a' wall is actually a reference to 'Trump's Wall'?"

Four four months you have tried ever more tortuous rationalizations attempting to redeem those lies - - - ALL of which have been farcical failures - - - for the ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 20, 19 8:39 AM
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Blah blah blah... a simple question for a guy with seemingly so much to say...

Was the $5.7 million requested in the recent budget negotiations for the "Trump wall" or "a wall?"

Your silence is deafening.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 20, 19 10:06 AM
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The new construction proposed? Obviously the Trump wall.

The wall-system referenced in the survey? Unclear and open to interpretation.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 20, 19 10:34 AM
"Open to interpretation"....LOL...More like "open to reasonable deducing."

89 percent of line agents said "a wall system in strategic locations is necessary to securing the border.” With the border NOT secure...the clear interpretation is the status quo is lacking what is necessary. Hence...the $5.7 billion new construction proposal. Obviously the Trump wall.


By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 20, 19 10:58 AM
No, that's YOUR interpretation. It may very well also be the interpretation of some, all, or none of the agents surveyed.

Maybe the survey question should've been better formulated if its purpose was to convey opinions about Trump's wall.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 20, 19 11:07 AM
Nope:

Is a wall system in strategic locations necessary to securing the border?

Yes
No

If you are suggesting the Border Patrol line agents think the Border is secure given what they witness day in and day out, you are truly clueless.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 21, 19 3:05 PM
I'm actually reminding that they weren't asked about Trump's wall, that "secure" is a matter of opinion, and that they weren't asked about that either as far as we know.

Oh, and I almost forgot... happy groundhog day!

That IS fun, huh?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 21, 19 5:28 PM
Waste of time .....

Nothing to see at the border
No drugs or sex traffickers
No human smuggling
No terrorists

All good
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Mar 21, 19 9:13 PM
Straw man (noun): an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 21, 19 9:42 PM
Look at Fore giving lessons in straw man arguments...LOL...the agents were asked:

Is a wall system in strategic locations necessary to securing the border? Yes / No

Since a "wall system" is the wall on the table (see recent budget negotiations), the primary wall concept being deployed by border patrol for strategic locations, border patrol sets the wall requirements and the border ISN'T secure...and the survey confirmed what President Trump has stated....to say otherwise that is ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 22, 19 6:04 PM
Wasn't there already a wall system before Trump?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 23, 19 6:45 AM
Bulls&%t (noun) : when someone posts facts liberal crybabies spew it
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Mar 23, 19 9:18 AM
Why get mad when you get called out for pretending your political opponents believe things they don't?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 23, 19 9:52 AM
“To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth”—Theodore Roosevelt
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 20, 19 9:56 AM
Me and Marlin like Ike.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 20, 19 10:21 AM
We need a wall to keep all the white American men forever locked up in the good ole' U.S.A.
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 20, 19 10:56 AM
Build the wall...build the wall..build the wall...

Whatever Fore needs to feel safe.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 20, 19 11:00 AM
Statistics on the likely identity of terrorists notwithstanding, I'm just as fearful of white American men as I am of Islamic foreigners: not very

A life of fear is no life at all and I'd rather be happy, so my advice is simple: hug your kids, hold 'em tight, they might not come home tonight.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 20, 19 11:12 AM
Is lying just like breathing to "right wingers"? Or, are they just so gullible they'll believe any meme with a quote on the internet? Or, perhaps it's just plain stupidity and laziness.

That quote is not only spurious, but pure hogwash. If you think Teddy Roosevelt said it, you're living in fantasyland.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 20, 19 6:44 PM
Good one, unproven quote, but you believe it? Good enough.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 20, 19 8:40 PM

Why are we no longer surprised when the "fake news" wailers post fake quotes?
Is Disase embarrassed? Probably not.
The stupid, it can't be fixed. Just gets worse.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 20, 19 9:06 PM
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PRESIDENT TRUMP !
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 20, 19 12:56 PM
Keep those VOTERS out!!!!!
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 20, 19 3:35 PM
@ Po Boy

Quote:

*"Border Patrol is on the record as supporting the wall. It is publicly available if you're interested. 'Overwhelming support' Trump's wall, in fact.
By Po Boy (3133), Water Mill on Dec 5, 18 1:03 PM"
--------------------------------------

So, just to get this straight, you WEREN'T claiming that the Border Patrol advocates the building of the colossal, monolithic, 30-ft.-tall, reinforced concrete "wall" that The Donald proposed. By your construction, ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 20, 19 5:00 PM
Border Patrol! Are they hiring??!! Asking for a friend.....
By toes in the water (839), southampton on Mar 20, 19 5:24 PM
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More verbose pomposity , rather boorish really
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 20, 19 5:58 PM
Um, hat... seems you can't even keep your "facts" straight. You said according to your cited mathematician, the proposed Donald wall was 40-ft. tall. Try to follow along, the 30-ft. variety is bollard style, and it works quite well. Border Patrol knows walls work regardless of what you want to call them. Any how...

"Border Patrol is on the record as supporting the wall. It is publicly available if you're interested. 'Overwhelming support' Trump's wall, in fact. By Po Boy (3133), Water ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 21, 19 2:29 PM
@ Po Boy

30-ft. - - - 40-ft.? More irrelevant casuistry.

The fact remains that you mislead readers to believe that the Border Patrol had endorsed Trump's colossal monstrosity when they had done no such thing.

You lied - - - and are lying still.
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 21, 19 2:38 PM
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Facts are important hat. In your inability/failure to provide a response to the question of what you desired to wall-name we call the $5.7 billion recent budget, you seem to have missed the following decree by Fore.

"The wall-system referenced in the survey? Unclear and open to interpretation. By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5879), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 20, 19 10:34 AM"

So my good man, assuming that is true, and I don't necessarily agree btw, how is it that I lied about something that is ...more
Mar 21, 19 2:58 PM appended by Po Boy
Correction: "Facts are important hat. In your inability/failure to provide a response to the question of what wall-name we call the $5.7 billion wall proposal in the recent budget negotiations, you seem to have missed the following decree by Fore.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 21, 19 2:58 PM
@ Po Boy

Indeed, Po Boy, facts ARE important.

And the salient, actually GERMANE FACT in this dispute (which you incessantly and fecklessly have attempted to obscure for nearly four months now) is that you told readers (in that your statement of December 5th) that the Border Patrol overwhelmingly supported Trump's Wall when a review of ALL the data available showed clearly that it DID NO SUCH THING.

You lied - - - and are lying still.
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 21, 19 3:12 PM
"when a review of ALL the data available showed clearly that it DID NO SUCH THING."

HAHAHAHAHA... a review of ALL the data....HAHAHAHAHA

Would that be the review of 600 border agents, 89% of whom said, "a wall system in strategic locations is necessary to securing the border.”

Or maybe the countless statements of CBP and border patrol experts?

"ALL the data" LMAO...you mean, IGNORING ALL the available data. Likely blinded by hatred of the president, rendering ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 21, 19 3:35 PM
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Yes, we know that the definition of "Trump's wall" is decided by whim and convenience, we're just reminding you (again) that 600 border agents weren't asked about Trump's wall.

They were asked a question that was left to interpretation, as you demonstrated above by giving us yours.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 21, 19 5:30 PM
Yes, we know that the definition of "Trump's wall" is decided by whim and convenience, we're just reminding you (again) that 600 border agents weren't asked about Trump's wall.

They were asked a question that was left to interpretation, as you demonstrated above by giving us yours.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 21, 19 5:30 PM
The definition of "Trump's wall" is dictated by the requirements set forth by the Border wall, since it is their requirements and specifications that dictates what is built. I don't see that as "whim and convenience" but prudent and diligent border security.

600 border patrol agents were asked a conceptual border security question. Based on their expertise, they overwhelmingly supported the same goals as President Trump - "a wall system in strategic locations is necessary to securing the ...more
Mar 22, 19 8:11 AM appended by Po Boy
"30-ft. - - - 40-ft.?" I actually agree to this as being referred to as irrelevant, that's the point!
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 22, 19 8:11 AM
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Was there not already a wall-system before Trump?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 22, 19 9:29 AM
Was there a secure border before Trump?

"a wall system in strategic locations is necessary to securing the border.”
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 22, 19 5:33 PM
That would be a matter of opinion. Happy groundhog day!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 23, 19 6:43 AM
stick it in your hat
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 20, 19 10:52 PM
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LEE ZELDIN ROCKS !!!!!!
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 21, 19 3:58 PM
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The Finnish can be so courteous when telling a dumba$$ to go $#@! themselves...


Please Enjoy These Finnish People Politely Going After Nikki Haley for Saying They Hate Having Good Healthcare

Ashley Reese
Today 1:35pm
Filed to: HEALTH CARE
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 21, 19 8:52 PM
JuneZ: In Finland what percentage of income is confiscated from the productive members of society to pay for their "good health care"?
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 22, 19 6:15 AM
When you get what you pay for, it's not confiscation. Thanks for playing...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 22, 19 7:29 AM
What's the tax rate on productive Finns ?
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 22, 19 7:31 AM
average of 49.5% !! Half of your income goes to the government ! Would that be OK with you JuneZ?
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 22, 19 7:36 AM
The highest tax bracket is only applied to income over 74K Euro (or $84K), but to answer your general question (even though you didn't ask me): sure, if I was making enough.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 22, 19 9:36 AM
How much is "enough" Foreign? Certainly you're not suggesting such a confiscatory tax rate on the most productive?
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 22, 19 9:50 AM
"Enough" probably varies from person to person but, to give you a reference point, I'm ok with the level of taxes I pay now (even though we got the shaft on SALT deduction this year) and I'd be fine with AOC's proposal to tax income starting at the 10-millionth dollar at 70%, along with 59% of people polled.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 22, 19 10:07 AM
Understanding Democrat Terms 101:

Democrat Socialism = Socialism
Toxic Masculinity = Straight White Male
Political Correctness = Controlling Speech
Assault Weapon = Any Gun
Identify As = Pretending to be
Pro-Choice = Legalized Murder
Undocumented = Illegal or New Voter
News Reporting = Liberal Talking Points
Climate Change = Another Tax Opportunity
Inequality = Your money should be theirs
Racist, Fascist, Nazi = Anyone who disagrees with Liberals
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 22, 19 7:09 AM
Understaning the "right wing" 101:

Lies and money = God
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 22, 19 7:38 AM
No God + No truth = " the left ".
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 22, 19 8:22 AM
The "truth" according to which god?

Zeus, Shiva, Horus, Buddha, Isis, Odin, or perhaps another?

The dustbin of history is where almost all "gods" have been relegated. What makes your bull**** story true when all the rest have been categorized as mythology?
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 23, 19 7:39 PM
@ Po Boy

It's been four months - - - and you are STILL spending uncountable, tedious hours trying to redeem your most preposterous - - - but by no means, only - - - lie - - - that anyone (like the Border Patrol, April, 2018) who refers to "a border wall", REALLY MEANS "Trump's Wall".) A shamelessly false assertion which - - - I cannot help but mention again - - - only-you - - - alone-in-the-world - - - claim-to-believe.

Your unremitting pathological lying - - - and the self-delusion ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 22, 19 8:26 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 22, 19 8:42 AM
Probably at Camp Siegfried......
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Mar 22, 19 9:20 AM
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LOL...You sound ridiculous and unhinged hat.

"Border Patrol is on the record as supporting the wall. It is publicly available if you're interested. 'Overwhelming support' Trump's wall, in fact. By Po Boy (3133), Water Mill on Dec 5, 18 1:03 PM"

Border Patrol agents overwhelmingly support Trump's wall in new survey. By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Monday, April 2, 2018

Until you are capable of grasping the core issue is the concept of border secure vs. a physical ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 22, 19 5:52 PM
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Speaking of learning of intolerance. At least this President is being proactive about it....and it’s about time they went after these universities:

President Trump on Thursday signed an executive order to promote free speech on college campuses by threatening colleges with the loss of federal research funding if they do not protect those rights.

"We’re here to take historic action to defend American students and American values," Trump said, surrounded by conservative ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 22, 19 8:47 AM
The signing of his executive order was a redundant useless order. From The Atlantic.......On Thursday, Trump took action along the lines he set out in that early tweet, signing an executive order directing federal agencies to “take appropriate steps” to make sure that colleges receiving research funding from the federal government are promoting “free inquiry.” But the order essentially asks colleges to do what they’re already required by law to do, and it is still unclear ...more
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 22, 19 8:59 AM
The administration Not allowing a Conservative speaker a platform on a college campus is not allowing free speech. "safe spaces" are also stifling free speech by shielding snowflakes in training from differing view points. Liberalism has poisoned the education system
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 22, 19 9:44 AM
Here’s a hint, try to make a point without an insult.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 22, 19 10:19 AM
sorry you see facts as insults Fred, care to address the facts in my post?
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 22, 19 3:34 PM
It’s your opinion, nothing more. To be honest, you never post facts, just your opinion. Trumps executive order was nothing more then red meat for his base. If you get upset by people protesting milo speaking, check your morals. The snow flake comment is just lame.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 22, 19 3:54 PM
Milo has the same right to free speech as you or I do, to deny him a platform to speak at a college is denying him his that right and doing a disservice to every student on that campus,FACT. This is where the left seems to go off the rails , all for free speech as long as they agree with what's being said , or are offended by what's being said or if THEY decide it's "hate speech". Everyone has the right to be heard , we don't have to like what they say but should defend their right to say it.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 22, 19 4:03 PM
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Uh, sounds like you don't know there are limits to free speech. What that Milo creep has to say should be offensive to any decent person regardless of ideology, and might meet the Miller Test which would qualify as unprotected.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 22, 19 4:53 PM
I don't think denying him a platform is a violation of his first amendment rights unless the rejection is specifically due to the content of his speech.

Everywhere he is denied it's because school administration doesn't want to bear the monetary cost of security that will be required because of his publicity.

Does everybody have the right to be heard? That's a new one. Everyone has a right to share their ideas. People are certainly not required to listen.
Mar 22, 19 4:53 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Though even then, there are some permissible content-based reasons to prohibit speech, as June pointed out.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 22, 19 4:53 PM
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Below is the schedule for Infowars’ emergency 50-hour broadcast intended to bring attention to Big Tech censorship in order to save the First Amendment.

Friday, March 22
– 12:00 AM Owen Shroyer
– 12:00 AM Will Johnson
– 1:00 AM SABO
– 6:00 AM Paul Joseph Watson
– 8:00 AM The David Knight Show
– 11:00 AM The Alex Jones Show
– 12:30 PM Gerald Celente
– 2:00 PM Tom Pappert
– 3:00 PM The War ...more
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 22, 19 8:19 PM
Thanks bum, I’ll get my aluminum foil hat on, ready for blast off
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 22, 19 8:22 PM
We need an INTERNET BILL OF RIGHTS and now!

New research reveals that Google built biases into its search results that influenced the 2018 midterm elections – possibly costing Republicans three congressional districts.

“These are new forms of manipulation people can’t see.”
Zero Hedge - MARCH 23, 2019

First things first – the study was conducted by Dr. Robert Epstein – a San Diego-based Harvard Ph.D. who founded the Cambridge Center ...more
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 23, 19 10:22 AM
A declaration that all non-criminal internet traffic should be treated equally regardless of content? Be still, my heart!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 23, 19 4:37 PM
If you want a someone who advocates That pedophilla is acceptable, have at it. Normal people will protest his appearance.protesting is part of democracy, what part don’t you agree with?Skip the FACTS in caps, it’s your opinion.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 22, 19 4:22 PM
If you want a someone who advocates That pedophilia is acceptable, have at it. Normal people will protest

So you admit that highats comments on Jay Sears "behavior" is foul . This night just keeps getting better and better.
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 22, 19 8:25 PM
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Sorry bum, I wasn’t around at the time of your far fetched claim.leave me out of your nonsense
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 22, 19 8:41 PM
"There was no Russian collusion"

- Robert Mueller
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 22, 19 7:50 PM
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NOT TRUE THERE WAS PLENTY OF RUSSIAN COLLUSION!

But it was Between Hillary Rotten Clottin the DNC Fusion G-POS Steele and Russians they paid and the Deep State that ran with the lies so they could spy on the Trump Campaign for that Canklesore-a** of Corruption.

Right Mets,JuneZ,Hat,Nero,Johnj,FredFore, You all have a Lovely Lovely Weekend !
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 22, 19 7:56 PM
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It has been told that it cannot be shown beyond a reasonable doubt there was involvement by Individual #1 to be in direct complicity with a foreign power in pursuit of public office. That being said...

Most felony convictions in the shortest timespan by any administration. Ever.

Don't count your chickens.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 23, 19 1:29 AM
Seriously … Does it get any better than this.... Schiff eats shif !
All of he leftist wackos were convinced by FAKE news that Trump was going down.
Clearly, that's not going to happen and their Precious News outlets are proven FAKE.
Gotta Love IT. Now that Russian collusion has turned out to be the giant hoax we all knew it was. the question is how much did this giant hoax interfere with the 2018 midterms? How many alt left Democrats and “journalists” convinced voters ...more
Mar 23, 19 10:11 AM appended by 27dan
Can't wait to hear the coordinated talking points they come up with on the Sunday shows. like the walking dead they are now...can't think for themselves. Poor babies!
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 23, 19 10:11 AM
Hey joe, top off the night with a foolish comment?
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 22, 19 8:02 PM
Eat Schiff !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 23, 19 10:15 AM appended by themarlinspike
Credit : 27dan
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 23, 19 10:15 AM
Nothing like watching the Dems kick and scream while their rowboat is sinking...More popcorn, please......
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 23, 19 10:46 AM
You too Joe lol ......... High Hat: Look for more crazy, incendiary comments from The Donald in the upcoming weeks. His intensifying, bombastic gibberish is both a reflection his dread of what is to come and a release of the stress caused by his awareness that he is headed to jail.

The Mueller report's evidence of pervasive, degenerate criminality and the like findings of the House Judiciary Committee (now free of impeding Republican dominance) make it unlikely that Trump will be able ...more
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 22, 19 8:03 PM
@Po Boy

As "authentication" you post a headline from a Right-Wing propaganda organ that misstates the Border Patrol endorsement of "a" border wall as an endorsement of "Trump's Wall". A casual perusal of the text of that article makes it clear that (contrary to your mendacious suggestion) the Border Patrol did no such thing. Your statement of four months ago* is a blatant lie, STILL.

You follow this contradictory "reference" with the simple lie that my description of you as ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 23, 19 1:43 AM
@ Po Boy

It's been four months - - - and you are STILL spending uncountable, tedious hours trying to redeem your most preposterous - - - but by no means, only - - - lie .....

Its been over two years and you are STILL trying to prove " Russian Colusion " lol !

The left is getting exactly what they deserve, and hopefully much more. They deserve losses everyday, for eternity, for trying to bring down this country.They have invested so much emotional capital into their hate ...more
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 23, 19 10:07 AM
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The Day The Left Died
Mar 23, 19 10:16 AM appended by themarlinspike
Spring Has Sprung
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 23, 19 10:16 AM
What do I think of the news that Mueller's report doesn't recommend any further indictments? GOOD.

I'm also glad we actually took some steps to drain the swamp.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 23, 19 10:53 AM
Adam Schiff Threatens to Subpoena Mueller After Russia Probe Wraps...

Go ahead shifhead subpoena Mueller, all the BS you and the Alt left crowd here were spewing about you have Trump, Trump will be Impeached, Mueller has him by the short hairs were ALL lies.

Well you continue wasting Congresses time and accomplish nothing for the Nation beyond witch hunts, and investigations WE will be beginning the investigations into the leakers, the traitors, and maybe even YOU .

When ...more
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 23, 19 10:58 AM
The goal was to investigate members of the campaign and administration.

Several were indicted and convicted of crimes. Mission accomplished!

Why don't you want to drain the swamp, TCM?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 23, 19 12:31 PM
DOJ policy is not to indict a sitting president. Perhaps that is the reason Mueller is recommending no more indictments at this time?

Mueller's decision not to indict at this time does not prove Trump's innocence.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 23, 19 3:14 PM
Is there anything at all that can prove President Trump's innocence in the Russian "collusion" hysteria JuneZ?
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 23, 19 4:09 PM
With his lies upon lies, stacked upon lies it's pretty tough to defend him. Unless you're a fool who skipped history class.


"...because people have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I'm not a crook. I've earned everything I've got."

~ Richard Nixon
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 23, 19 6:45 PM
"@Po Boy
As "authentication" you post a headline from a Right-Wing propaganda organ...."a" border wall as an endorsement of "Trump's Wall". ...Border Patrol did no such thing. Your statement of four months ago* is a blatant lie, STILL...."
By highhatsize (3928), East Quogue on Mar 23, 19 1:43 AM

Border Patrol agents overwhelmingly support Trump's wall in new survey. By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Monday, April 2, 2018

Carla Provost Is Border Patrol's First-Ever ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 24, 19 4:38 PM
Fox News reported on Thursday that the final Islamic State stronghold in Syria, the village of Baghouz, has been liberated by the Kurdish-led, U.S.-allied Syrian Democratic Forces. The report has not been officially confirmed as of Thursday evening, but if Fox’s information is solid, the ISIS “caliphate” has been destroyed.

"The most beautiful sound in the world is the evening (muslim) call to prayer .."

- Barack Obama in a softball interview 2008

Trump ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 23, 19 11:05 AM
And strangely, that call to prayer will still be heard every day.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 23, 19 2:45 PM
"Fox News" ???

Surely that is a contradiction!

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle !!!
By Nero (279), Sag Harbor on Mar 23, 19 2:45 PM
As opposed to CNBC & CNN, who always get it wrong?Fox rules! Trump 2020!
By Taz (635), East Quogue on Mar 23, 19 3:03 PM
Of course the call to prayer will still be heard, it's a Muslim country! The war is against RADICAL Islam. Surely you know the difference.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 23, 19 3:13 PM
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The way Obama is bashed by the right for that quote (including by you), obviously you don't.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 23, 19 3:17 PM
JuneZ, Obama is a bum and an anti American apologist, that being said there are demonstrable differences between the Muslim extremist group ISIS and more moderate Muslims.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 23, 19 4:08 PM
Number one most admired man in Gallup polling since 2011 is a
"bum"? Good to know!!!
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 23, 19 7:22 PM
2-3 years and $25 million plus dollars spent on nothing but a smokescreen for the REAL collusionists....Hillary, Comey, Lynch, Clapper, Ohr, Strzok, Page, Brennan, and many more including Obama who knew full well what was going on. Page admitted as much recently when she confessed that Obama wanted to know everything. And for what? Because liberals were upset that Trump won. Sounds like a collective 4 year old tantrum for not getting the ice cream they wanted after dinner.
But watching the ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 23, 19 11:42 AM
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Most felony convictions in the shortest timespan by any administration. Ever.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 23, 19 2:17 PM
All Signs Point to a Housing Boom Ahead
Just as many millennials enter their home-buying years, the labor market is strong and interest rates are low. Bloomberg By Conor Sen
March 22, 2019, 10:30 AM EDT

translation millenials have finally figured out that life, while living in apartments, suxx!

strong economy no more isis love my president !
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 23, 19 12:37 PM
LOL . . . So much huff and puff fiddlin’ . . .

. . . and all before anyone knows the contents of Mueller’s report!

Prepare for a new kind of Shock and Awe . . . [without an indictment] . . . think about it, not that most here can actually think about anything beyond their blinders . . . !!!

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle !!!
By Nero (279), Sag Harbor on Mar 23, 19 12:50 PM
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FAIL.


U.S. runs largest monthly budget deficit on record in February

The big picture: For the fiscal year to date, the budget deficit is up 39% compared to the same period a year ago.

The expanding deficit comes as the Congressional Budget Office is projecting a shortfall of $897 billion for the full fiscal year, or 4.2% of gross domestic product. That’s up from $779 billion in fiscal 2018. The CBO sees trillion-dollar deficits beginning in fiscal 2022.

~ ...more
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 23, 19 2:13 PM
Keep hanging on to those straws.Hard to find negative economic news these days....
By Taz (635), East Quogue on Mar 23, 19 2:38 PM
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Straws are better than DOA promises and lies.


“We've got to get rid of the $19 trillion in debt. … Well, I would say over a period of eight years."

~ Donald J. Trump
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 23, 19 4:36 PM
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We Americans should be thrilled that our President turns out to be innocent of unfounded charges against him.That includes Dems.
By Taz (635), East Quogue on Mar 23, 19 4:33 PM
I agree. If that's Mueller's conclusion, it's a good thing. Now let's just make that report public so we can confirm that's what it says!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 23, 19 4:40 PM
According to federal prosecutors, the U.S. Probation Department and Judge William H. Pauley, Donald Trump directed Michael Cohen to commit a crime. Which, is a crime.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 23, 19 8:47 PM
I’ll tell you what it says. It says the same thing for every answer to every question you, or any other liberal in this country says when it comes to Trump and his collusion with Russia. Your answer is all summed up by one 6second youtube video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jz1TjCphXE&feature=youtu.be
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 23, 19 5:06 PM
Why don't you want the report to be made public, diseased?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 23, 19 5:17 PM
Choose your leaders with wisdom and forethought.
To be led by a coward is to be controlled by all that the coward fears.
To be led by a fool is to be led by the opportunists who control the fool
To be led by a thief is to offer up your most precious treasures to be stolen.
To be led by a liar is to ask to be told lies.
To be led by a tyrant is to sell yourself and those you love into slavery.
--Parable of the Talents
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 23, 19 7:57 PM
President Trump is the Man !
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 24, 19 3:07 AM
Yes, a coward, a fool, a thief, a liar, and a tyrant.
Mar 24, 19 11:34 AM appended by June Bug
And a Russian asset, illegitimate president, organized crime boss, useful idiot, and beyond dangerous.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 24, 19 11:34 AM
TDS is eating you alive JuneZ, sad.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 24, 19 3:49 PM
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I love my country and look forward to when it is led by an honorable, respected, and admired leader. One our children can look up to, and one whose qualities are emblematic of our previous standing in the world as a great country.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 24, 19 4:14 PM
President Trump has restored our standing as a great country after Barak Hussein Obama "led from behind" , apologized for US exceptionalism and was unable to utter the phrase Islamic Terrorism. What a disgrace He was.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 24, 19 5:28 PM
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Hahahaha.......oh boy .....
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Mar 25, 19 8:33 AM
Hahahaha.......oh boy .....
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Mar 25, 19 8:33 AM
Registered Democrats = Zombie Americans
Mar 24, 19 9:03 AM appended by themarlinspike
No God + No truth = " the left ".
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 24, 19 9:03 AM
Do you think POTUS is a good Christian?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 24, 19 10:13 AM
Like he'll answer that, lol...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 24, 19 9:16 PM
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As much as Obama was a good Muslim...
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 24, 19 11:59 AM
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So not at all? That's what I thought.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 24, 19 12:35 PM
That was a good set up fore.trump isn’t a good human being.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 24, 19 1:01 PM
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I disagree with the use of some language that's been used to describe POTUS, but even his staunchest supporters will have a hard time denying the fact that he behaves himself like an a**hole sometimes.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 24, 19 1:23 PM
ZERO COLLUSION!!! Now will all of you losers bury your heads in the sand now? 2 1/2 years of you REAL conspiracy theorists telling us that our president collided with Russia to get elected. Where is our apology?
Or at the very least, I think it’s time you all at the very least admit to us and yourselves that Donald J Trump is the POTUS fair and square.

I’ll probably get crickets from the delusion party. Hey Lil Adam Schiff...time to man up. Stop blinking so much u light ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 24, 19 4:19 PM
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WHITEWASH. There was collusion before our very eyes when trump stood alongside Putin and said that PUTIN SAID he didn't interfere in our election. Why the lying re: the trump tower meeting? And firing Comey isn't obstructing justice? What the hell were Russians doing in the Oval on what was it? day 2 of the administration? Mueller doesn't draw a conclusion on obstruction then Barr declares trump not guilty. On what basis is he determining INTENT when trump didn't even testify. Barr is dirty. ...more
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 24, 19 4:46 PM
actually hon,
It is over.
this Investigation is what you had an artificial orgazm over.
this was the bomb that was going to impeach our president,,, remember?
time to stick your tail between your legs, eat s%, and go bark at the moon.. you mets, mr hat, bitter fred and these lunatic liberals in the media are so wrapped up in their hatred of trump they don't realize they have handed him a landslide victory in 2020.

thats right you ! have handed him the win and don't you ...more
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 24, 19 5:03 PM
Hey Sweets, a network of several investigations is still underway--criminal, counterintelligence, and Congressional. Even some of the lawyers from Mueller's team are still at work.
No, this was not the "bomb" to impeach. Congress impeaches, not a Special Prosecutor, so its investigation is just heating up alongside several others. So no, it is not over. We are in for more national sturm and drang, trump will be defeated, and eventually brought to justice.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 24, 19 9:55 PM
I think the point which is missed is that a foreign, and allegedly adversarial nation promoted a Republican candidate for president.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 24, 19 10:15 PM
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GO MUELLER GO!

LMAO....
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 24, 19 4:24 PM
GO MUELLER GO!

LMAO....
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 24, 19 4:24 PM
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He's gone, but he didn't charge trump on obstruction, nor did he exonerate him. Apparently you're happy about that?
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 24, 19 5:12 PM
He was never charged with anything.. What exoneration?
Innocent until Proven Guilty.
Don't let June get away with changing meanings.

When they have no evidence of a crime there is nothing to be exonerated from.

MAGAAAAAA BABY DO YOU HERE THAT JUNE !!!!!!!!!!
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 24, 19 5:20 PM
Are you referring to the "exoneration" the Orange Felon-To-Be is citing on Twitter?
To wit:
"Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
No collusion, No obstruction. Complete and Total EXONERATION. KEEP AMERICA GREAT!"

How about you take your stupid assertion to him?

Just FYI, the definition of exoneration is "absolve from blame for a fault or wrongdoing". No crime necessary, Einstein.
And also FYI, Mueller drew no conclusion at ...more
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 24, 19 9:24 PM
Uhh, well, about that...

According to federal prosecutors, the U.S. Probation Department and Judge William H. Pauley, Donald Trump directed Michael Cohen to commit a crime. Which, is a crime.
Mar 24, 19 10:24 PM appended by Mr. Z
"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him..."
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 24, 19 10:24 PM
***Live Wire***

NO COLLUSION!
TRUMP …DID NOT CONSPIRE OR COOORDINATE WITH RUSSIAN HACKERS ’DESPITE MULTIPLE OFFERS’!
CAMPAIGN DID NOT COLLUDE WITH RUSSIANS
MUELLER DOES NOT FIND OBSTRUCTION*
NO PROOF OF CRIMES
BARR TEXT
MAXINE MELTDOWN
MEDIA ROCKED
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 24, 19 4:57 PM
*NOR DOES MUELLER FIND OBSTRUCTION. Must be a blind man.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 24, 19 5:15 PM
Yes June your the only one who sees thinks clearly lol

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin declared Sunday that Department of Justice special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on Russian interference in the 2016 election gave President Trump and his staff “total vindication” on the issue of collusion.
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 24, 19 5:23 PM
What, you're blind, too? No doubt deaf as well if trump's lying doesn't bother you.
We know about the collusion verdict, so why the Toobin quote? I was referencing obstruction.
Martha Stewart must be quite confused right now having been prosecuted and imprisoned for lying to the feds. Something is rotten--we need to hear from Mueller. Makes no sense that he didn't reach a conclusion on obstruction. Was he not allowed to? Now what about someone like Cohen going to jail, but not the ...more
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 24, 19 5:54 PM
Face it JuneZ, president Trump didn't do a damn thing that is illegal. Time to get over it , move on.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 24, 19 7:42 PM
Broke campaign finance law. Bank and insurance fraud. Foundation ordered shut down for illegality. For starters.
Mar 24, 19 8:52 PM appended by June Bug
The only people buying the “total and complete exoneration” spin are the people who don’t care if he commits crimes in the first place.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 24, 19 8:52 PM
I thought socialism should be illegal, no?

Is bankruptcy socialism?
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 24, 19 9:15 PM
sux to be a delusional liberal today, heh heh heh!
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 24, 19 5:24 PM
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Yes, well at least he still has the Mets to look foward to.
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 24, 19 5:30 PM
Delusional? It is too laugh when you add up criminality.


GOP Admins Had 38 Times More Criminal Convictions Than Democrats, 1961-2016

We compared 56 years of corruption in Republican and Democratic presidencies: both sides are not equally corrupt.

By Rand Engel


We compared 28 years each of Democratic and Republican administrations, 1961-2016, five Presidents from each party. During that period Republicans scored eighteen times more individuals and entities ...more
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 25, 19 1:46 AM
@ Po Boy

Your lies go on-and-on-and-on.

A reading of the text of the latest article that you cite in support of your lie that the Border Patrol endorses Trump's Wall* reveals that the title is another lie. Just like the title you cited in your last reference is a lie**.

I encourage forum members to read both articles in order to develop an appreciation of the completeness of your immoral prostration before your fanatical ideology.

You lie as you breathe.




* ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 25, 19 1:47 AM
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March Sadness
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 25, 19 9:21 AM
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Border Patrol agents overwhelmingly support Trump's wall in new survey." by Stephen Dinan (The Washington Times, April 2, 2018)

Carla Provost Is Border Patrol's First-Ever Female Chief & She Backs Trump's 'Wall. by Kavitha George (Bustle, Aug. 9, 2018)

All hat, no cattle.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 25, 19 9:48 AM
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"I Believe Whatever the Headline Says (But Only if I Like It)" by Po Boy, March 25, 2019.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 11:02 AM
"Son of a b**tch!" by Fore1gnBOrnHBGrown, March 25, 2019

"And while funding for President Trump's border wall campaign promise is still up in the air, Provost says a physical barrier is necessary. "We do need a wall," she told The LA Times. "Through my experiences, we know walls work. Where we invested in a wall system — wall, technology, infrastructure and additional agents — we have experienced significant decreases in illegal border-crossers, and it impeded the flow of illicit ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 8:09 AM
My house has many walls. How many of them are Trump's?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 8:46 AM
Do those keep illegal aliens in, or out?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 12:46 PM
So that's the deciding factor? That would make the entire wall-system on the border "Trump's wall" but the fact remains that a vast majority was built long before Trump was in office.

You know, like the already-existing wall-system that border patrol agents could have reasonably deduced they were being asked about.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 12:52 PM
*sigh* Let me take this moment to AGAIN clarify Fore, so I can point it out to you in the future when you reintroduce it....AGAIN....as you continue to do...

"That would make the entire wall-system on the border "Trump's wall" .... no Fore...*sigh* simply the wall secured with funding and/or initiated during the Trump presidency. FACT is the only wall being built currently is to that of Border Patrol requirement and specifications....it is ONLY replacing and/or adding to the wall system ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 9:11 PM
Just because you repeat it ad nauseum doesn't make it true. Was there a survey question that asked whether the border was secure, or did I miss it?

At least you admit that there was already a wall-system. Taken with your admission that the question is left up to interpretation, you're almost there!

I'm no more confident you'll make it this time than last, though...happy groundhog day!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 9:38 PM
Just because you repeat it ad nauseum doesn't make it true. What makes it true is not only the context of the survey question but the context of ALL the supporting citations and what is transpiring at the border.

No. I don't "admit that there was already a wall-system." Fact is... a sweeping statement like that can not possibly capture what is currently deployed to the southern border. What is being contstructed HOWEVER.... is replacing outdated, antiquated, insufficent barriers.... ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 9:54 PM
So there wasn't "a wall-system" before Trump? I would disagree, and you're free to differ, because whether "a wall-system" existed prior to Trump depends on your interpretation of what "a wall-system" means.

What's your interpretation, and how do we know that it matches what each agent was thinking when they read the question?

We don't!

Happy groundhog day!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 10:24 PM
Almost 6,000 posts. Anything changed?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Mar 26, 19 10:30 PM
LOL... Sure Fore, no problema...

"Just because you repeat it ad nauseum doesn't make it true. What makes it true is not only the context of the survey question but the context of ALL the supporting citations and what is transpiring at the border.

No. I don't "admit that there was already a wall-system." Fact is... a sweeping statement like that can not possibly capture what is currently deployed to the southern border. What is being contstructed HOWEVER.... is replacing outdated, ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 10:35 PM
Not at all, you folks are still as entertaining as ever.

We're down at least one, though...RIP PW Herman.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 10:36 PM
Here we go again with hihats obsession with Po Boy. Enough already. Especially after the no collusion news. It’s getting a bit creepy now and a little stalkerish. Talk about deflection and changing the subject....

As for the topic at hand. It would better serve you libs on here to just accept Mueller’s findings and move on. At least Fore1gn and Fred were smart enough to stay away from this one. For the others that want to continue the argument...you sound like 4 year olds that ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 25, 19 5:29 AM
What're you talking about? I've been railing against Po's false characterization of the border patrol survey just as long as hat has.

I think whether Trump's guilty of anything is up to Congress, but I'm glad there wasn't enough evidence for Mueller to outright call him a Russian asset.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 5:48 AM
WE HAVE YET TO SEE MUELLER'S FINDINGS. ALL WE HAVE IS BARR'S LETTER.

By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 26, 19 1:55 PM
At the end of the day, it was proven that the orange chimpanzee didn't willingly seek Russia's help in the election. It was also proven that Russia did interfere in our elections. They interfered on behalf of the tangerine toddler, they knew they found the perfect "useful idiot" to support. There's no doubt that l'll donnie johnny was smitten and in a bromance with our arch enemy. D-Day is coming in Syria with confronting the Russians. He wants to claim victory and then just leave it to the Russkies ...more
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 25, 19 6:03 AM
President Trump!!!! Get over it.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 25, 19 6:36 AM
Oops...

GOP Admins Had 38 Times More Criminal Convictions Than Democrats, 1961-2016
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 25, 19 7:02 AM
Oops...

It's good to be a Democrat.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 25, 19 9:52 AM
I, for one, am satisfied that, despite much of the public continuing to believe otherwise, the investigators determined that a prosecutable offense didn't occur. That applies to both Trump and Clinton.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 1:32 PM
Better than supporting criminals.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 25, 19 8:04 PM
Better than supporting a two-tiered justice system? One for the politically connected and elite, and the rest?

Naaah.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 8:54 PM
Trump was investigated and not charged, why are you still mad?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 9:09 PM
Who said I was speaking of Trump?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 10:02 PM
Who said I was speaking of Trump?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 10:02 PM
You're responding to a conversation about Trump.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 10:19 PM
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By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 25, 19 7:50 AM
It's almost over till he gets voted out. Here's what a real leader does after a mass shooting, banning assault style military weapons. Your dumb.. dolt, NRA bought and paid for, after continual mass murders can only offer thoughts and prayers to our massacred citizenry. He should learn something about what a real leader does. The biggest part of your support is that the orange chimpanzee is a white supremacist sympathizer. His dog whistles have consequences.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 25, 19 9:07 AM
Thank god the people are smart enough to realize the real reason you yearn for the second amendment to be neutered is because you want to control every aspect of what the people of this republic do in there daily lives.

6 more years of President Trump

MAGA
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 25, 19 9:15 AM
No, I don't want innocent religious practicing, concert going, kids going to school, to be slaughtered and massacred.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 25, 19 9:31 AM
... And your ok with guys like this ? It's ok we will keep our 2nd Amendment thank you and good day!

PALESTINIAN CLERIC: “FRANCE WILL BECOME AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY THROUGH JIHAD”
“We will fight them until the entire world is subject to the rule of Islam”

In an address to Al-Aqsa mosque-goers, Palestinian cleric Abu Taqi Al-Din Al-Dari said that France will become an Islamic state because it will mostly be inhabited by Muslims by 2050.
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 25, 19 9:44 AM
With all the mass shootings and massacres, thoughts and prayers is all you got. The American citizens butchered don't mean anything to you. Got it!
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 25, 19 1:25 PM
President Trump has never been stronger, politically, than he is today.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 25, 19 7:58 AM
Vote out all the Marxist Democrats.
Mar 25, 19 8:13 AM appended by themarlinspike
GOD BLESS AMERICA
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 25, 19 8:13 AM
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Bankruptcy is socialism. Trump knows all about it.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 26, 19 6:12 AM
The edited conclusions of the Mueller Report are no surprise. I long ago said that I thought that Trump was simply the gormless tool of the Russians rather than an active conspirator. And, based on what is public knowledge, Trump's INTENT in the obstruction charges would be difficult to prove.

I'm much more interested to know if Mueller found evidence of fraud and tax evasion and if that evidence is contained in the full report that has yet to be released.

Trump was never afraid ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 25, 19 9:06 AM
I saw "gormless'' out on the front page and just knew it was you. gormless Play gorm·less
BRIT., INFORMAL
slow-witted; stupid
Origin of gormless

altered from dialect, dialectal gaumless from gaum, gome, care from Middle English gome from Old Norse gaum, akin to Old English gieme, care, Gothic gaumjan, to heed
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 25, 19 9:12 AM
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By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 25, 19 9:24 AM
"Why should we even listen to a thing that comes out of your bum backward mouth?!. After all your sour and childish predictions clocked in gibberish. You were wrong on SOOOO many things and owe the readers an apology for your hubris.

Would you like us to post all you nonsensical statements and predictions about how the 2016 Election , The Kavanaugh hearing and The Mueller Report would turn out here again!

Your persona has become a Caricature on this board ! "

Maybe you ...more
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 25, 19 9:47 AM
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I wonder if Omar condemns Gaza’s latest actions ...?
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Mar 25, 19 1:21 PM
Are they the actions of Gaza or the actions of a few people?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 1:29 PM
What are Omar’s thoughts not yours , that’s the question.
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Mar 25, 19 2:49 PM
What are "Gaza's latest actions"? Are they the actions of all people in Gaza, or very few?

Why do you attribute the acts of very few people to many? That's my question to you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 4:03 PM
Seems as if the MSM colluded with the Democrat Party to influence the last mid-term election . Fake news broadcast 24/7 , the vast majority unfavorable to President Trump, outright lies and innuendo proclaimed to be the truth, that's the real crime here.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 25, 19 1:33 PM
What specific actions do you think amount to "collusion" (is that even a crime?) between "the Democrat Party" and...who, in particular?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 1:39 PM
The FACTS are still the FACTS:

trump called on Russia to commit a crime & hack Hillary’s emails.

trump confessed to firing Comey because of the “Russia thing.”

trump sided with Putin over US Intelligence in Helsinki.

Barr’s 4-page letter does not change any of that.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 25, 19 2:38 PM
Russian collusion was what Mueller was tasked to investigate, however the MSM disseminated false information favorable to the Democrat Party, in all probability coordinated with Democrat Party operatives, that info may very well have influenced the mid term elections. Certainly you can see that the MSM is alt left leaning and in the tank for the Democrat Party? They gave Obama a pass for 8 years and any questioning of Him was met with cries of racism on MSNBC, they gave Hillary a pass on her criminal ...more
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 25, 19 3:38 PM
You'll remember that the "collusion" in regard to Mueller's investigation (or conspiracy, which is the word Mueller used) was related to the crime of soliciting or accepting help from a foreign state actor in a federal election.

If you think that "in all probability [MSM] coordinated with Democrat Party operatives" (despite the apparent admission that you can't point to a single example of such "collusion") I am asking you very specifically: what is the CRIME you're accusing them of conspiring ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 4:01 PM
Attempting to overthrow a legally elected President is still called treason isn't it?
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 25, 19 4:33 PM
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If you think there was a conspiracy for the express purpose of overthrowing the president on the basis of knowingly-false information, I'd challenge you to prove it, which you appear to admit you can't.

Remember from your constitutional law class: "No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

Good luck!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 4:39 PM
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I challenge it to be investigated!!

Ah, to be a Democrat.....
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 8:45 PM
Challenge away. I notice you're not as optimistic as folks below about POTUS actually doing anything.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 9:07 PM
I notice you're not up to a fair challenge/investigation.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 10:00 PM
Am I the DOJ now?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 10:25 PM
LOL, "Challenge away" so you said.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 10:41 PM
What're you challenging who to do, exactly?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 10:45 PM
Follow the bouncing ball.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 27, 19 2:55 PM
JuneZ, Are you alluding to President Trumps' commenting on Hillary's "missing" e-mails when he said something like "Maybe the Russians can find them"? Only an uber partisan fool would thing that he was not joking. That was funny. Comey served at the pleasure of the President and he was involved in a soft coup , trying to overthrow the government from within. As to the Helsinki situation , I don't have the information that was in dispute, do you? But since President Trump is involved it's just more ...more
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 25, 19 3:46 PM
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But Trump did say he was firing Comey because of "this Russia thing" didn't he?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 4:02 PM
Trying to overthrow the government by running an investigation known to be false is a good enough reason to sh it can Comey don'tcha think?
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 25, 19 5:50 PM
So "this Russia thing" referred to a "soft coup" rather than the legitimate investigation into the Trump campaign and administration? I don't buy it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 6:44 AM
After one year, ten months and five days and the expenditure of millions of taxpayer dollars, Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted a report that concluded there was no evidence of Russian collusion by President Trump or anyone on his campaign team, nor is there any evidence to support obstruction of justice charges against the president. The obvious question that arises now that the Mueller probe has come up dry is why was such an investigation even launched?

It is a well-known ...more
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 25, 19 4:11 PM
Of course Uranium One wasn't investigated.
Because the last "Special Counsel - Roberto Mueller" personally hand delivered Uranium Samples to the Frigging Russians!
Mueller then spent the last two years ELIMINATING EVIDENCE! Yet they all contradicted each other and lied under oath!
Lover Lisa Page threw them all under the bus, just look at her testimony.
Start the indictment train AG Barr!!
First up Comey he is a proven liar and dumb as rocks.all the way up to Lynch, Hillary, ...more
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 25, 19 4:14 PM
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The trail will lead to the top, obama. count on it. the fbi does not do things without approval from the wh, obama didn't want president trump to come and undo all he had done with his pen and his phone. now we must give every democrat the same intense scrutiny given to president trump. a lot of democrats would soon be in prison. and the people know it!
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 25, 19 4:18 PM
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Two points of clarity:

Mueller specifically didn't absolve POTUS of obstruction.

The investigation still turned up lots of wrongdoing.

That the president wasn't among those accused of criminality is a great thing. Drain the swamp!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 4:24 PM
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Just when you didn't think the posts could get any dumber...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 25, 19 8:02 PM
Drunk are ya'?
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 25, 19 8:08 PM
Now that President Trump has peen vindicated, it is time for the appropriate investigative authorities to probe the possibility of crimes committed in the perpetuation of this Russia collusion hoax.

1 – Was a false crime deliberately reported to the FBI?
2 – Were Obama administration officials involved in passing dossier charges of questionable political origin to the FBI or bolstering Steele’s credibility to the bureau?
3 – Did James Comey withhold from ...more
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 25, 19 4:29 PM
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GOP Admins Had 38 Times More Criminal Convictions Than Democrats, 1961-2016

Why does the GOP attract so many criminals?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 25, 19 8:07 PM
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The censors have bitten off more power-mad, anti-free speech BS than they can chew.
Silicon Valley and college campuses across the country have decided their political opinions render those they disagree with as void.
They have been free to ban dissent, critical viewpoints and undeniable facts.
President Trump has made it clear that he is listening to a growing number of Americans concerned with the totalitarian clamp down on the First Amendment and has begun drafting and signing Executive ...more
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 25, 19 4:54 PM
How come gay people have to find a different bake shop but you don't have to find a different social network?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 5:03 PM
I have never seen anyone here on this board even come close to slandering a person for being gay. That said ... Making the cake made the baker uncomfortable. so why would you insist on wanting a cake from a person who did not feel comforatable with your lifestyle ? There was a baker one block away who offered to make the cake for free!

Its a whole differant thing with Goolge these fang companys and a few more control the world ... and you know it ! So please dont play dumb! They are on ...more
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 25, 19 10:52 PM
Because if I own a coffee shop and I don't like what you're saying I want to be able to kick you out.

If you don't think there are alternatives to Google or Facebook, maybe you just weren't on the internet yet when Yahoo and Myspace the top dogs.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 11:32 PM
Its like what I just said was completely lost with you. Google is not a coffee shop its more like a public utility! Come on Fore your better than this surly you can see Google who also controls You tube needs to be a level playing field! Or is it just to dame convenient to look the other way while these company's squelch opposing view points before the 2020 Election !
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 26, 19 12:30 AM
And it's like what I just said was completely lost on YOU: If you think there aren't competitive alternatives to Google and Facebook products, OPEN YOUR EYES.

Optimum is closer to having a monopoly than either one but I don't see you championing net neutrality.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 5:44 AM
This is the only "social network" I frequent Foreign , if I don't like the service provided here I can leave, same way with the patrons of any other business, including the baker you are alluding to.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 25, 19 5:55 PM
So you don't share TCM's belief that the big tech giants are in need of regulation?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 25, 19 6:20 PM
The real question of the day is why is William Barr so hell bent on suppressing Mueller's report?

If Trump has been "cleared", provide the report in full to the House Judiciary committee. Unless, there's a reason he wants it squelched...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 25, 19 8:16 PM
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The answer is there's a massive cover up underway. A grand collusion consisting of the entire Republican party. They are all entwined with Russia.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 25, 19 8:44 PM
you are like our resident maxine waters and have become absolutely hilarious and adorable ~ giggle
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 25, 19 10:28 PM
Just like June none of the "fake news" outlets is going to apologize for their role in this hoax. None of them is going to take a look at themselves and none of them is going to get any better. CNN in particular is done as a news organization--no journalists, no viewers and no ad revenue. You know what though? They don't care. If CNN was concerned about journalism they would hire some journalists. If CNN was concerned about ratings, they would go out and hire some journalists. It's apparent ...more
Mar 26, 19 7:25 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
There are a few exceptions Podesta: "I Accept" Conclusion Of Mueller Report
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 26, 19 7:25 AM
AVENATTI FOR PRESIDENT I MEAN PRISON! Avenatti's co-conspirator in this fraud is Kapernick / Smollett's lawyer. You can't make this stuff up.

WSJ: Time for Obama Admin to Account for ‘Historic Abuse of Government Surveillance Powers’ I look forward to seeing the Kenyan's Most Wanted poster in the Post Office ! This criminal must be held accountable. ! Obama, Hillary, and their fellow seditionists and conspirators belong in Jail!

What a wonderful day ! goodnight all ...more
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 25, 19 10:40 PM
It seems the cat is out of the bag. Now we know why President Bone Spurs rage tweets about John McCain.


Lindsey Graham urged McCain to give Trump-Russia dossier to FBI
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 26, 19 6:10 AM
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...and let's not forget how McCain came to receive the Democrat funded dossier....

David Kramer, a friend of McCain and Russian expert was dispatched by McCain to meet with the dossier's author Michael Steele in London. Steele told Kramer “that he thought having Senator McCain weigh in would be hopeful in terms of giving the FBI additional prod to take this seriously,” ... "It helped that McCain, was better to be the recipient of this rather than a Democrat because if it were ...more
Mar 26, 19 8:33 AM appended by Po Boy
So ain't it strange, something of such sensitivity and concern by John McCain, who wanted to do due diligence, but his friend who he dispatch to London- who claimed it wasn't political....gave the information to multiple media outlets.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 8:33 AM
The MSM has been heavily biased, as much as they could possibly get away with at any time on any story, in favor of the Democrat Party. That's no conspiracy theory. That's a fact.Together with Google and Fakebook they almost succeeded in destroying the country. They brainwashed millions of idiots into believing the President of the United States is a Russian agent. It's completely insane. The traitors in the FBI, DOJ, CIA, Democrat Party, Social Media Companies and in the Main Stream Media must ...more
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 7:08 AM
I think a major reason for the MSM's Russian collusion goose chase is that many of today's reporters are young, cocky, pseudo-intellectual, elite journalism school graduates with more hubris than on-the-street experience.

In places like the Ivy League, the concept of balanced reporting and healthy skepticism takes a back seat toward "social justice" journalism.

So instead of following the 1970s bumper sticker slogan -- "QUESTION AUTHORITY" -- they're convinced before they even ...more
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 26, 19 7:11 AM
@27 dan: I take it you have an Ivy League journalism degree being you're so in the "know". Care to tell us which school granted you your degree? You must know then that the job of the journalist is to in fact question authority.
Did you not as a citizen--much less a journalist--question the blizzard of lying by trump and his minions re: Russian contacts? Wonder why all the hiding?
Liberals want facts. Conservatives want their biases reinforced. Liberals embrace ...more
Mar 26, 19 12:48 PM appended by June Bug
We know the trump family, associates and campaign chairman coordinated and colluded with Russian nationals close to Putin. Barr "cleared" trump by careful parsing of "Russians" versus "Russian government" and "people operating on behalf of trump" versus "trump campaign." WORDS MATTER.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 26, 19 12:48 PM
Can someone here explain what was so wrong about my last post that it was deleted, besides liberals being upset about the truth and the facts?
Starting to wonder if Fred, fore1gn and some others on here are the moderators themselves. I said nothing wrong or bad and compared to some other posts here, mine was mild. So is this facebook/twitter lite? Ate conservative views being banned here? Should I contact a higher authority? Maybe I will. Maybe I will....
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 26, 19 7:32 AM
Yes , conservative views and many times the the truth....not tolerated....
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Mar 26, 19 7:42 AM
There's conservative views up and down this message board, give me a break.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 8:59 AM
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Great news for Israel !
Trump , doing the right thing again!
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Mar 26, 19 7:38 AM
Here's a Conservative point of view :
God bless America
Land that I love
Stand beside her
And guide her
Through the night with the light from above
From the mountains
To the prairies
To the oceans
White with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home
From the mountains
To the prairies
To the oceans
White with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home
God bless America
My home sweet home
(Thanks to : Irving Berlin)
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 26, 19 9:09 AM
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I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 9:40 AM
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That must be the Marxist version where you eliminated "UNDER GOD". It's the creepy kind of thing they do. FAKE AMERICANS.
Mar 26, 19 12:17 PM appended by themarlinspike
In 1954, at President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s urging, the Congress legislated that “under God” be added, according to the legislation of 1954, citizens should stand upright and place the right hand over the heart while reciting the pledge.
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 26, 19 12:17 PM
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Maybe FBHBG predates Eisenhower. That's how long it's been since Ike added "under God".
By Taz (635), East Quogue on Mar 26, 19 12:23 PM
I think Marlin doesn't realize that "under god" wasn't part of the pledge until it was added in the 50's.

Maybe the folks trying to tear down the barrier between church and state are the "FAKE AMERICANS".
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 12:34 PM
"I want to pay taxes. I love this country."

~ Irving Berlin
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 26, 19 8:05 PM
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Wow! Did someone hand out fistfuls of gummy bears? The resident true believer peanut gallery is on a sugar high. Of course, you all COULD authenticate your fantasies. (You know, post objective, authoritative references in support.)

Belief always eclipses fact for you lot but the rest of us rely on reason..
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@ DiseaseDiocese

Please let us know how contacting a "higher authority" to get your irrelevant/malicious eructations posted works our.
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We ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 26, 19 8:41 AM
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I think that means Diseased is going to pray on it...bless their heart.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 8:49 AM
The United States will set a record for the largest budget deficit for a month in our history. Did you expect anything different from the bankrupt orange chimpanzee. Remember the infrastructure program for Atlantic city? We'll he's got the same program for our country.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 26, 19 9:06 AM
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By Biba (541), East Hampton on Mar 26, 19 10:24 AM
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What lies? That Israel is an Apartheid state?

Doesn't Israel impose legal distinctions between its citizens based on religion?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 10:27 AM
No and no ....
Mar 26, 19 11:29 AM appended by Sturgis
Nope ....
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Mar 26, 19 11:29 AM
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Sorry Sturgis. The facts are that Israeli law treats people differently based on religion, most recently in the nation-state law which limits the right of self-determination to Jewish Israelis.
Mar 26, 19 12:30 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
You can deny facts all you want, but facts don't care about your feelings.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 12:30 PM
You’re stating your opinion, not facts .
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Mar 27, 19 11:15 AM
Isn't it a fact that the recent nation-state law specifically limits the right of self-determination to Jewish Israelis?
Mar 27, 19 11:34 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Since you're just going to lie, I'll tell you the answer: yes, it is, and that's verifiable by anyone capable of reading. That's why it's being challenged in the Israeli high court.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 27, 19 11:34 AM
First ...do not call me a liar.
Israel is not an apartheid state.


As for YOUR personal issue with the nation state law

Gatestoneinstitute dot org
On Israel’s nation state law

And

Mosaicmagazine dot com
Why all the outrage over Israel’s nation state law

The Arabs that decided to stay in Israel have thrived.
The Arabs that call themselves Palestinians and the corrupt leaders they blindly follow have never been interested ...more
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Mar 29, 19 12:42 PM
Oh good, another "go read my point elsewhere" response.

Here's my own:

“Israeli Practices towards the Palestinian People and the Question of Apartheid.” United Nations Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia, March 15, 2017.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 1:22 PM
Israel is not an apartheid state
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Apr 1, 19 7:38 AM
That's not what the United Nations concluded.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 1, 19 8:37 AM
The UN lost credibility...
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Apr 1, 19 1:57 PM
I understand that's your view, and you're welcome to it.

However, in the absence of a convincing opposing argument (and no, "google my point for me" doesn't cut it), I'm going to side with the UN over strangers on the internet.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 1, 19 2:00 PM
And that’s your right to do so.
Bottom line nothing I post will “convince” you ...of anything.
And me telling you to google it is perfectly acceptable because it’s not just MY point...

I don’t have all day to play with you therefore if you want to know WHY I feel the way I do I suggest you google how the UN has been hijacked by some of the worst violators of human rights on the planet yet Israel is constantly under the microscope
It’s a joke ...more
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Apr 2, 19 8:06 AM
Google it, great idea.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Apr 2, 19 8:55 AM
How would you know that nothing you post could convince me that Israel is not an apartheid state when you won't even try?

Rational people often change their minds when introduced to new information. "Google it" is just lazy and unconvincing.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 9:04 AM
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Please
There’s nothing lazy or unconvincing about it ..

Rational ?
The very fact that there is plenty of evidence to prove Israel is NOT an apartheid state but YOU still insist it is, is the opposite of rational.
Yea Fred it is a great idea!
Why do I have to help you two ?
It’s obvious you both feel a certain way and that’s ok ...

By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Apr 2, 19 9:16 AM
I'm telling you that I find it lazy and unconvincing, just as you would if I said "Google my point for me" in regard to something else.

Among the evidence that Israel IS an apartheid state is the FACT that the highest court of Israel needs to resolve whether the nation state law violates the Basic Laws on Human Dignity and Liberty.

What's your evidence that it isn't an apartheid state, and is it stronger than the words of the UN and the High Court of Israel?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 9:29 AM
Thank you for clarifying that it’s your ( and Fred’s) personal opinion that it’s “lazy and unconvincing “.
And now you’re assuming I would feel the same way ? Interesting. Well I can assure you, you’re wrong.

It’s not evidence that apartheid exists because the highest court needs to resolve the “issue”. It is however evidence that Arabs and some Jews ( mostly useful idiots) are still determined to destroy the ONLY Jewish state ...more
Apr 3, 19 11:39 AM appended by Sturgis
Here are a few more fantastic articles I do hope you take the time to read them, you may learn something.... Camera dot org Has coverage of Israel’s nation state law been sober and factual & Mosaicmagazine dot com The criticisms of Israel’s nation state law are very strange
By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Apr 3, 19 11:39 AM
When you say,”google it ,” that is lazy. If you are trying to make a point, don’t ask someone else to make your point for you. That’s all.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Apr 3, 19 11:44 AM
No Fred
I provided specific articles plenty of times .
And it’s not about proving my point, it’s about backing my point up and explaining why I feel and think the way I do.
But keep deflecting and just ignore the articles
God forbid you learn something

By Sturgis (569), Southampton on Apr 3, 19 12:03 PM
Right
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Apr 3, 19 12:11 PM
So even if Israel's own High Court decides the law DOES violate the Basic Laws on Human Dignity and Liberty, they're still wrong and you're still right?

I suppose that's that, then.

Let's go back to talking about your conspiracy theory surrounding Parkland...what was it again?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 3, 19 12:36 PM
I can’t speak for Sturgis in reference to the Parkland shooting but perhaps it had something to do with the Broward County Deputies refusing to enter a school with an active shooter ,but found it necessary to teach Muslims how to defend themselves because of all the ......anti Muslim violence Broward County was experiencing? I researched violence against Muslims in Broward County Fla. but all that came up was ...Broward County a hotbed for terrorists...
Also apparently a BC Deputy is Muslim ...more
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Apr 3, 19 2:34 PM
So then what is YOUR theory, Biba?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 3, 19 2:36 PM
Well I find the Muslim and CAIR connection odd and disconcerting.
Why was it so imperative to instruct Muslims how to defend themselves and from what threats ?
Armed guards in schools bad but armed Muslims in mosques ok
Interesting

You were able to comprehend my last comment correct?


By Biba (541), East Hampton on Apr 3, 19 6:31 PM
Yes, but what about it is "disconcerting"? Innuendo and conjecture aside, what do you think ACTUALLY happened?

I think you won't say because you'd have to admit your support for false-flag conspiracies and nobody would take you seriously.

I can't tell you what Broward county's policy is on self-defense instruction, but police departments regularly provide things like active shooter trainings to organizations free of charge.

As for the "why"...I'd point you to the 2012 ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 3, 19 6:45 PM
I have no idea what happened. Personally I find Nezar Hamze’s connection to CAIR & Islamic Relief disconcerting. You love to make assumptions I see ...
I’m not insinuating it was a false flag shooting.
I’ve researched law enforcement training people in houses of worship for active shooters. I couldn’t find anything other than Hamze and the Mosque. Maybe you’ll have more luck.

By Biba (541), East Hampton on Apr 4, 19 1:11 PM
But what ABOUT it is disconcerting? What SPECIFICALLY does the connection lead you to believe?

I think you believe the recipients of the training were somehow involved, but that's just my opinion.

Anyway, you must not have looked very hard:

"In the aftermath of the shooting at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh that took the lives of 11 people, some places of worship in central Queens have been requesting active shooter training in the event that an armed person ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 4, 19 1:35 PM
I find any connection to a terrorist organization disconcerting. I think most rational people do.
Boy you really love making assumptions..
I researched law enforcement weapons training prior to 2015.

By Biba (541), East Hampton on Apr 5, 19 5:20 PM
CAIR is not listed as a terrorist organization by the U.S. State Department.

The United Arab Emirates does label them a terrorist organization, so if you want to side with the UAE over your own country, be my guest.

Maybe your narrow search was your problem, but I'd encourage you to try again.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 5, 19 5:38 PM
Side with the UAE ...? Ooooh are you insinuating that I'm a traitor.....LOL...Ah no worries Foreign, I'm used to being called a traitor / dual loyalist because I'm an American Jew that supports Israel. I guess that's different from Muslims in America that support "Palestine". No dual loyalty accusations there huh ....hahahah....*eye roll*...

Foreign there is quite a difference between having an opinion that differs from the US State dept. and "siding" with another country. Also I find ...more
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Apr 10, 19 10:06 AM
I don't think I called you a "traitor" but simply pointed out that you reject your government's view in favor of foreign government's view on this particular topic.

The "why" is not part of my assertion, though since you asked I don't think it goes any deeper than simply agreeing with the UAE's opinion over the State Department's.

I have certainly disagreed with the U.S. government and you are welcome to point it out as often as you wish.

What would you like to know?
Apr 10, 19 10:18 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Ohhh, you're asking me to research the question of active shooter trainings at places of worship? Sure thing. I found three more stories, two from 2014 and one from last week. The most recent was from KMBC-9 (Kansas ABC affiliate) and the older ones were from the Hartselle Enquirer and the Hamilton Journal.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 10, 19 10:18 AM
Oh YOU don't think you did ? What else would "siding with the UAE OVER your OWN country" mean..? Just stop trying to spin it.

Great research, now Google : CAIR's connection to Hamas or CAIR is Hamas....
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Apr 11, 19 10:36 AM
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I thought it was pretty obvious that you were siding with another country's finding over your own on this particular question. I don't think you would d side with the UAE over the US in ALL things which WOULD make you a traitor.

I also don't think you're siding with the UAE on this question because you prefer the UAE to the US or have a foreign loyalty to them, you just happen to like the UAE's answer to this particular question more than the US Government's conclusion that, no, CAIR is ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 11, 19 1:06 PM
Wow what a bunch of wacky gibberish....

Let's try this again Foreign, disagreeing with my country is not siding with another country and the facts about CAIR are out there, you just refuse to do the research.
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Apr 11, 19 4:59 PM
The fact that Hamas is a recognized terror organization by the State Department and CAIR isn't is all I need to know.

What do you know that the US Government doesn't?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 11, 19 11:38 PM
IMPEACH 44!!!
By Taz (635), East Quogue on Mar 26, 19 10:33 AM
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Do you charge Obama rent, or does the retired politician live in your mind rent-free?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 10:36 AM
SpecialCounsel coming.He ran a corrupt justice Dept that interfered in 2016 election. Shoes on other foot now. Lady Justice will prevail. MAGA & KAG!
By Taz (635), East Quogue on Mar 26, 19 11:03 AM
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Impeach 44!!!! Good one
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 26, 19 11:47 AM
What did Obama know, and when did he know it?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 12:41 PM
Now they just let that piece of dirt Jussie of all charges just to give Trump supporters the finger and change the narrative away from

TRUMP IS INNOCENT NOW LOCK HER UP !
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 2:09 PM
Are you going to change your avatar now that the actor will not be charged?

If no charges absolves Trump, then no charges equally absolves Jussie, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 2:22 PM
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16 Felony Charges. 16! and ALL of them were dropped !

They want the racial divide in this country to get deeper. Jussie is bait. After Trump cleared by Mueller, Libs want to throw cold water on the victory and INFURIATE MAGA supporters, putting a target on Jussie's back. They want him to be a martyr for their sick cause, and gain political leverage by it. Don't fall for the trap! Leave Jussie alone, and shunned, Chicago Mayor Emanuel on Jussie Smollett: ‘Is There No Decency in This ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 26, 19 4:54 PM
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Yes Ditch, please don't take down your avatar yet. Wait a couple of weeks until someone asks who it's supposed to be.

UD: You think all of the people involved in Chicago's criminal justice system are making investigatory and prosecutorial decisions based on national politics? You're all real big fans of law enforcement until they do something you don't like.

You think Trump is going "after" anyone? Keep dreaming.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 5:07 PM
As Jussie Smollett proclaims innocence, mayor and police chief take aim at 'whitewash of justice'By Eliott C. McLaughlin, CNN Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson held a news conference and said prosecutors did not consult his office. He learned that the charges for filing a false police report were dropped the same time the media did, he said.
Repeatedly calling the decision a "whitewash of justice," "Do I think justice was served? No. I think this city is still owed an apology," Johnson said. ...more
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 26, 19 5:32 PM
How disgusting are these people ! The needed something to get the news to change the headline that they could not deal with, THE REAL HEADLINE ......

***Live Wire***

NO COLLUSION!
TRUMP …DID NOT CONSPIRE OR COOORDINATE WITH RUSSIAN HACKERS ’DESPITE MULTIPLE OFFERS’!
CAMPAIGN DID NOT COLLUDE WITH RUSSIANS
MUELLER DOES NOT FIND OBSTRUCTION*
NO PROOF OF CRIMES
BARR TEXT
MAXINE MELTDOWN
MEDIA ROCKED





By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 26, 19 4:59 PM
You libs can have Jussie. We want the big fish.....and ALL of them.
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 26, 19 5:01 PM
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You crack me up, Disease. Don't be triggered: nobody cares about Jussie except you.

I think we'll come to find out the investigation was flawed by fruit of the poisonous tree.

The only situations where PD and prosecutors drop such high-profile cases is when a trial, and the information that would come out during discovery, would make them look bad.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 5:09 PM
no body cares ? the Internet is lighting up over this bastard getting a free ride and you sit here and defend this guy. you should be ashamed of yourself .

you can have him! our president has been cleared and its all that matters....... so go watch you empire or whatever this raciest man stars in.

birds of a feather flock together!
By Erin 27 E (1209), hampton bays on Mar 26, 19 5:38 PM
If no charges clears Trump then no charges clear Jussie, right??? LOL
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 6:06 PM
Wrong!!!

A crime being investigated (and charges) is not the same as an investigation in search of a crime.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 8:42 PM
"While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

~ Special Counsel Robert Mueller
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 26, 19 8:59 PM
Well there you go...WHERE IS THE CRIME?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 9:22 PM
The crime would be soliciting or knowingly accepting help from a foreign state actor in a federal election, and Mueller found insufficient evidence to prosecute that crime which is good enough for me.

The obstruction question, on the other hands, purposely remains unanswered.

I still think Trump fired Comey to end the Russia investigation, but impeachment is not a realistic remedy as long as Republicans control the Senate.

So what is a realistic remedy? Voting POTUS and ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 10:34 PM
Welcome to Fantasy Island.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 10:36 PM
I'm not saying it'll happen, just that winning at the polls is the only way Democrats will be able to grab Trump by the...you know where I'm going with this.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 10:42 PM
"you know where I'm going with this.

Nope. Not only do I not know where you are going, don't proclaim where I am going.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 10:48 PM
You don't? Well it was a reference to a lewd quote you may have heard about; Trump's little faux pas (to his credit, the only I've ever heard him apologize for) about claiming he could grope women at will because of his wealth and fame.

I'm suggesting that by winning elections, Democrats can metaphorically return the favor.

You all caught up now?
Mar 27, 19 10:51 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I guess not. As they say, you can bring a horse to water...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 10:51 PM
Huh?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 27, 19 10:15 AM
MR Z's Hero the "Great Journalist " Matt Taibbi

Matt Taibbi: It’s Official – Russiagate is This Generation’s WMD

Get a cup of coffee. Taibbi’s Russiagate piece is epic.

By Matt Taibbi, author of The Divide, Griftopia .... Check it out before Google bans It !
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 26, 19 5:08 PM
Turns out Trump has been on the FBI radar for at least thirty years, if not more. They even caught Marla Maples bringing Michael Bolton up to her room after Trump left Manhattan back in '94.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 26, 19 8:01 PM
"Turns out? LOL... And yet no charges....

You're reading my mind joe....Taibbi takes the media to task!

By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 8:51 PM
Guess you missed the FBI records vault release? Yeah, you did. If Trump was investigated as President, it was also due to a pattern of behavior. You don't end up on the naughty list for nothing...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 26, 19 9:05 PM
Did I, or did YOU miss something? Or more importantly, did the millions who elected him see through the bs?

"The brief documents contain no substantial information about Trump or his businesses."*

"You people" are sadly pathetic.

*FBI releases Trump-related files before inauguration
BY MEGAN R. WILSON - 01/19/17 The Hill
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 9:20 PM
Yeah, you did miss something.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 26, 19 9:46 PM
LOL...

"The brief documents contain no substantial information about Trump or his businesses."

Do tell...

By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 9:56 PM
149 redacted pages released today. Though redacted, definite show of malfeasant behavior. Pattern supported.

The GOP motto: "It may be immoral, but it's not illegal..."

GOP Admins Had 38 Times More Criminal Convictions Than Democrats, 1961-2016

Why does the GOP attract so many criminals?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 26, 19 10:07 PM
Well, that was a rather abrupt change of direction.

Gee, you couldn't be trying to recycle old posts, could you?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 10:39 PM
Pot, meet kettle.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 26, 19 10:43 PM
Kettle meet pot..
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 10:46 PM
How long did it take to nail the original "Teflon Don"?
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 27, 19 5:51 AM
@ Po Boy

Your ultimate response explains why "path"*, the root of the words, "PATHological (liar) and psychoPATH, so aptly describes your character.

Other true believers, when their lies are exposed, have the common sense to maintain a low profile for a few days or weeks before they repost their falsehoods.

You, on the other hand, do so immediately, even being so insane as to repost the very citations that refute your mendacious claims.

I'm sorry about your mental ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 26, 19 6:06 PM
"Hands for those who've noticed you've yet to be correct on any political prediction.
By Po Boy (3744), Water Mill on Nov 19, 18 9:00 PM"

"@ Po Boy
Judging by his frantic denunciations of the Dept. of Justice and his placement of a subservient tool at its head, The Cornered-Rat-In-Chief's hand is higher than any.
By highhatsize (3932), East Quogue on Nov 20, 18 7:07 AM"

A quick review of your use of "pathological" indicates, it is perhaps something you should consider ...more
Mar 26, 19 8:33 PM appended by Po Boy
I continue to wonder after multiple requests of a simple question what you would prefer we call the wall discussed in the recent $5.7 billion budget negotiations? Is that the "Trump wall" or "a wall?" HELLO????
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 26, 19 8:33 PM
***Live Wire***

NO COLLUSION!
TRUMP …DID NOT CONSPIRE OR COOORDINATE WITH RUSSIAN HACKERS ’DESPITE MULTIPLE OFFERS’!
CAMPAIGN DID NOT COLLUDE WITH RUSSIANS
MUELLER DOES NOT FIND OBSTRUCTION*
NO PROOF OF CRIMES
BARR TEXT
MAXINE MELTDOWN
MEDIA ROCKED
MADDOW WON'T LET GO...
COMEY CONFUSED...
MATT TAIBBI " IT'S OFFICIAL - RUSSIAGATE IS THIS GENERATIONS WMD
RACIST SMOLLETT BEATS RAP! SPITE ? PROSECUTOR FEELS HEAT!




By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 27, 19 1:04 AM
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Considering the full text of the Mueller report has not been made public, it would appear "Exonerationgate" may be next...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 27, 19 5:38 AM
Matt Taibbi: “For years, every pundit and Democratic pol in Washington hyped every new Russia headline like the Watergate break-in… The story hyped from the start was espionage: a secret relationship between the Trump campaign and Russian spooks who’d helped him win the election…”

“There was never real gray area here. Either Trump is a compromised foreign agent, or he isn’t. If he isn’t, news outlets once again swallowed a massive disinformation ...more
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 27, 19 8:35 AM
Someone doesn't understand the difference between reporting on allegations and suggesting they're true.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 27, 19 9:34 AM
Gay sex will be punishable by stoning to death and thieves will be amputated under 'vicious' new Sharia laws brought in by Brunei
Brunei already has Sharia law with homosexuality punishable with ten years' jail
Under new laws from next week gay people could be whipped or stoned to death
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 27, 19 8:11 AM
Jussie is a distraction from the major story that Obama’s DOJ spied on Trump and started a Russia hoax.The Obamas called this one in to create a distraction from the Complete Disintegration of Russian Collusion... and his emerging culpability in its creation... pure leftist misdirection... to steal thunder from Trump ... look at the timing !
Rahm helped sell it when he scolded jussie. Foxx acted unilaterally without informing anyone at pd... acted today unannounced with surprise hearing ...more
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 27, 19 8:21 AM
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Degenerate Democrats
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 27, 19 8:55 AM
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It is stunning but not surprising in the least how casually CNN and MSNBC ignore the outragious contrast : Hysteria over an absurd charge against Trump lacking a scintilla of evidence. Contrasted with willful ignorance of a mountain of crimes having a mountain of evidence for the Clintons, Why they are called Fake News.

By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 27, 19 9:16 AM
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Lol, can you point me to any evidence of this conspiracy theory, Ditch?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 27, 19 9:37 AM
Trump was right (again)...

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
The Fake News is working overtime. Just reported that, despite the tremendous success we are having with the economy & all things else, 91% of the Network News about me is negative (Fake). Why do we work so hard in working with the media when it is corrupt? Take away credentials?
7:38 AM - May 9, 2018
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 27, 19 10:12 AM
What is the fact that many people strongly dislike Trump proof of?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 27, 19 10:48 AM
What is the fact that President Trump is the second most admired man in America proof of?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 27, 19 2:49 PM
Oh, so you weren't providing the evidence I was asking for? Ok then.

By the way, who's first?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 27, 19 4:14 PM
What the dopes can't figure out is that Barr's letter stated there was no proof of Trump's campaign conspiring with the Russian GOVERNMENT. However, the Kilimnik incident shows at least one member of the campaign conspiring with a Russian "political consultant".

The GOP doesn't want the report released, because it does not exonerate anyone, and could be damning.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 7:38 AM
The stupid runs deep on the Left.

By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 28, 19 8:25 AM
The left is eating each other.
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 28, 19 8:43 AM
How do you figure, marlin?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 28, 19 9:42 AM
IMPEACH 44 !!!!! MAGA. KAG !!!
By Taz (635), East Quogue on Mar 27, 19 9:06 AM
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It feels good waking up every morning knowing that Trump has, is, and will continue to dismantle and break down everything that Obama has his name on. I’m so glad to see it all crash and burn. Trump will make it so that Obama didn’t even exist...and it will start with the taking down of his former DOJ and FBI coherts. The coup d’etat that will be exposed. These are good times. Great to be a Republican and great to be an American.
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 27, 19 9:29 AM
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Don’t forget to keep a night light on, the boogie man is still scaring you.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 27, 19 3:08 PM
Three years waiting for healthcare reform, too stupid to even fake it. Nancy, mitch please fix it for me. Meanwhile, in the supposed greatest economy ever, we set a record for the most debt in one month ever. Big surprise coming from the bankruptcy king.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 27, 19 10:56 AM
sour grapes from one of our alt left stooges, no surprise there!
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 27, 19 2:59 PM
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Okay please explain his policy. Instead of bashing me ,debate me. Anything I say that isn't true? The orange chimpanzee is a disgusting classless low-life. that's the truest statement I can make.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 27, 19 4:27 PM
Gotta love good right wing, christian folk supporting a liar and adulterer. How's about your Ten Commandments now?

It is to laugh...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 27, 19 7:24 PM
If he was a real leader, he would tell the A.G. release everything in the Mueller report that you legally can. He is a gutless cowardly liar, and his words mean nothing. All he'll ever be is a reality show drama queen.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 27, 19 4:40 PM
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How about a box set we could release Hillary's 33,000 Emails at the same time
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 27, 19 7:18 PM
Far from over, folks. What we have so far is an 8th grade level book report from a Republican stooge DA, ongoing investigations, and collusion and obstruction in plain sight.

" Mueller grand jury 'continuing robustly,' prosecutor says
The revelation — while laced with uncertainty — indicates that the ongoing cases Mueller handed off could still feature significant developments, legal experts said.

By DARREN SAMUELSOHN 03/27/2019 12:29 PM EDT Updated 03/27/2019 ...more
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 27, 19 5:24 PM
A last minute FOIA records request in the Jussie Smollett hate-hoax investigation was fulfilled by the Chicago Police Department on Wednesday - shortly before the case was sealed by a Cook County judge.

Livid Chicago law enforcement officials were beside themselves on Tuesday after all 16 felony charges were dismissed against Smollett for allegedly staging his own hate crime with two Nigerian-born brothers.

"The Chicago Police Department is not happy. Our Superintendent expressed ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 27, 19 7:27 PM
And what did we learn from the files, UD?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 28, 19 11:01 AM
Politico? You mean the alt-left fake news source? They make msnbc and cnn look like infowars.

Trump will take them down too. 6 more years of Trump, mainstream media will be unrecognizable and the main social media sites will look like an app created by Sean Hannity himself...
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 27, 19 6:25 PM
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Actually, it's sourced from the AP Wire.

The derp is strong on "the right".
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 27, 19 7:28 PM
Six More Years !
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 27, 19 7:11 PM
Devin Nunes Sending Criminal Referral to DOJ over Spygate: ‘Time to Go on Offense’ House Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Devin Nunes (R-CA) is planning to send a criminal referral next week to the Justice Department that will detail “multiple referrals on a number of different crimes,” including leaking classified information, as part of his investigation into misconduct at the Justice Department and the FBI. Remember, Rep Devin Nunes said this is the "unraveling of ...more
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 27, 19 7:16 PM
The stupid is strong on "the right"...

"According to several officials, McConnell raised doubts about the underlying intelligence and made clear to the administration that he would consider any effort by the [Obama] White House to challenge the Russians [election meddling] publicly an act of partisan politics."

~ Washington Post, December 2016

McConnell says "it is deeply disturbing" that the Obama administration wasn't prepared for Russian threats in election meddling.

~ ...more
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 3:12 AM
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Speaking of "stupid:"

The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War's been over for 20 years.”

~ Barack Obama
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 28, 19 8:04 AM
If I acknowledge Obama's shortsightedness will you acknowledge McConnell's?

I doubt it.
Mar 28, 19 9:55 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Called it!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 28, 19 9:55 AM
Short sightedness as you suggest would indicate the time continuum for what we know now, was the same as what we knew, then. That's just dumb. The criticism of whether Obama could have done more is well documented. Obama's own statement, in retrospect, validates McConnell's recent statement in what is a complex issue. And on that you demand for a legitimate statement expressing accurate assessment, circa 2019, for reason of one instance - in the shadow of countless other examples suggesting more ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 28, 19 10:29 AM
Yes, I do think it was shortsighted for Obama to put politics ahead of national security in 2008, just as it was shortsighted for McConnell to do it in 2016.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 28, 19 10:59 AM
Now all we have to do is determine the definition and standard being applied to "shortsighted," for each.

We know McConnell questioned the underlying intelligence based on previous failures. We also know Obama's 2008 statement was political.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 28, 19 12:12 PM
I'm just glad you're aware McConnell was rejecting the conclusions of the intelligence community when he put politics ahead of national security at the time.

You can chase definitions and standards to your hearts content, my opinion is that "shortsighted" applies to both parties in question.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 28, 19 12:49 PM
If you or Z even bothered to read the Washington Post article you'd learn that McConnell and other Republicans purpose was in NOT emboldening the Russian's by drawing attention to "explosive allegations in the final stages of an election, a move that they argued would only rattle public confidence and play into Moscow’s hands" it says.

Afterall....

"No Serious Person" Believes U.S. Elections Can Be Rigged Or Stolen ... Becasue Democracy works by consent, not by force"

~ ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 28, 19 4:14 PM
That's one view, though the article contrasts it with McConnell's view instead of suggesting shared it (why lie, Po?).

Another is that they believed publicly supporting the conclusions of the intelligence community would harm the Republican candidate, who was the primary beneficiary of Russian efforts in the 2016 election.

Also, who is saying the election was rigged or stolen?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 28, 19 5:25 PM
Here's another view, from a lucid sounding Adam Schiff from the same article you didn't read, Remember who was president in September - December 2016? HINT: It wasn't Donald Trump.

"The lack of an administration response on the Russian hacking cannot be attributed to Congress,” said Rep. Adam B. Schiff (Calif.), the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, who was at the September meeting. “The administration has all the tools it needs to respond. They have the ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 28, 19 7:48 PM
You're implying that someone said it, and I'm asking you to elaborate.

If you're not, then we agree: nobody is saying it was rigged or stolen.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 28, 19 10:02 PM
On Wednesday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Hannity,” President Trump said he does have plans to release the FISA applications related to the Russia probe.

Host Sean Hannity asked, “Do you have plans to release those FISA applications, Gang of Eight information, the 302s of Bruce Ohr and others, and the five buckets that John Solomon and Sara Carter — as they call them?”

Trump responded, “I do. I have plans to declassify and ...more
Mar 28, 19 12:48 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Clean out the rat's nest.
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 28, 19 12:48 AM
Great interview Mr President

"You may start your attack run"

FIRE AT WILL, COMMANDER.

We got your back!

MAGA !
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 28, 19 1:06 AM
Hmmmmmmmmm...

McConnell blocks resolution calling for release of Mueller report because it would be ‘politically advantageous to one side’

27 MAR 2019 AT 12:09 ET

In defense of blocking the resolution, McConnell stated that he ”supported the proposition that [Mueller’s] report ought to be released to the greatest extent possible, consistent with the law”—language that both Barr and McConnell have used to bolster the excuse that the ...more
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 3:32 AM
LOL..."...when we think it may be politically advantageous to one side or the other” NOT "politically advantageous to one side" as the headline states.

By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 28, 19 7:51 AM
Well, if it doesn't impact your "side" release the full report.

Oops, wait. The GOP would probably be f***** if it was, so then it's gotta be a big ol' NOPE. Too funny...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 6:22 PM
LOL... "probably".... "gotta be"



Mar 28, 19 7:20 PM appended by Po Boy
....if"....
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 28, 19 7:20 PM
Democrats proposed the Green Deal so they could demonize Republicans for being against the environment. Democrats never expected a vote to reach the Senate but McConnell turned the Green Deal into their own undoing: Now Democrats are on record and they don't support it either.The democrats have been exposed as liars and hypocrites again Green New Deal is the current version of the Marxist utopia of the Communist paradise: flying cars, no internal combustion engine, no heaven, no gender. The catch ...more
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 28, 19 8:11 AM
As Another Migrant Caravan Approaches, Trump Revives Threat To Close Southern Border


"...Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador have taken our money for years, and do Nothing. The Dems don’t care, such BAD laws. May close the Southern Border!"
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 28, 19 8:44 AM
“You may think it’s ok to give me a wedgie. I don’t think it’s ok. Wah, wah, wah...”—Adam Schiff

What a crybaby. Results are in. Deal with it. Step down too. You’re a whiney little hack of a politician. Accusatory dolt. Just leave already.
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 28, 19 10:49 AM
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Someone's triggered. Trump's walking free, why are you still mad?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 28, 19 12:50 PM
“If it’s what you say, I love it, especially later in the summer.”

~ Donald Trump Jr. regarding dirt on his father's electoral opponent, supplied by an adversarial nation/government
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 6:37 PM
LMAO...Donald Trump Jr.? He's that guy you've been posting about for two years, saying the same thing, isn't it?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 28, 19 7:18 PM
@ Diseased: Anything to offer other than a personal attack on a fine public servant doing the oversight work required in a democracy?
It appears you're OK with interference by a hostile foreign power in our election process, one actively working to weaken our democracy, and canoodling and cooperating with assorted Russians. WTH kind of American are you?
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 28, 19 8:13 PM
A question for those who believe that Russia somehow "stole" the election : Did a single Russian somehow illegally enter the country and cast a vote? How did they influence the election? Please don't bother with the fakebook line, nobody with a lick of sense gets their news from that sewer.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 28, 19 4:33 PM
I'm just here to find out who is saying Russia "stole" the election.

As far as I know, the intelligence community simply believes Russian government actors tried to impact the election. Not that the outcome was actually affected.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 28, 19 5:27 PM
Groundhogs Day again and again and again . How do you do it .
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 28, 19 5:51 PM
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Facts are facts. Junior did not go to the FBI, he went straight to an adversarial entity for "dirt". And, lied about it. That's probably in the "does not exonerate" part of the Mueller report.

“My colleagues might think it’s OK that when that was offered to the son of the president, who had a pivotal role in the campaign, that the president’s son did not call the FBI; he did not adamantly refuse that foreign help – no, instead that son said that he would ‘love’ ...more
Mar 28, 19 6:40 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, if you think it was about "adoptions", you're a useful idiot, or an outright dolt.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 6:40 PM
So nobody is saying that Russia stole the election Marlin? That's what I thought.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 28, 19 7:35 PM
"Junior did not go to the FBI"

So?

If he lied, "Junion" should be charged. He wasn't.

""Probably" in the does not exonerate part?" Do you even hear yourself?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 28, 19 7:43 PM
"So?"

Because conspiring with an adversarial entity to acquire muckraked data is not only unethical, it's immoral, and it should disgust anyone who considers themselves a "patriot". The ethical thing to do would be to report the contact to law enforcement. If one had scruples or morals, that is.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 8:06 PM
No conspiracy has been shown. So, where is the crime?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 29, 19 12:47 PM
He didn't say it was a crime, he said it was unethical. Read more, type less.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 1:19 PM
The intelligence community is the reason WHY there is an investigation in the first place. So who cares what they believe? Sounds like Gasoline Gomez. The FDNY fireman who was starting fires on his way to work and somehow kept on being the first one to put them out. He was putting out the fires that he was starting.
This was OBAMA’S intelligence community. The most crooked of all time. Fore1gn’s entire argument is based on said intelligence community. So why should any of us listen ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 28, 19 6:26 PM
Perhaps you skipped History class the day J. Edgar Hoover, or Joseph McCarthy were covered?

The horse**** is now over their heads on "the right"...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 7:10 PM
What did Obama know, and when did he know it??

Democrat's want answers, let's get answers.

By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 28, 19 7:39 PM
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Well, you would have to ask Mitch McConnell when he was first informed and told Obama to f*** off.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 8:07 PM
“My colleagues might think it’s OK that the Russians offered dirt on the Democratic candidate for president as part of what’s described as the Russian government’s effort to help the Trump campaign. You might think that’s OK.

“My colleagues might think it’s OK that when that was offered to the son of the president, who had a pivotal role in the campaign, that the president’s son did not call the FBI; he did not adamantly refuse that foreign ...more
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 6:32 PM
Reading reading...uh-huh...yeah yeah yeah yeah. uh-huh...so what...Donald Trump Jr. this...Donald Trump Jr, that,,,,blah blah blah....no crime...NO COLLUSION!!!

Re-reading reading...uh-huh...yeah yeah yeah yeah. uh-huh...Ok ok...oh, ok...just another Democrat perpetuating MORE LIES.

CLOWNS!!!!





By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 28, 19 7:35 PM
Zero full disclosure = 100% doubt

If you have nothing to hide, full disclosure should be sequitur, as it were. The Oval Office lies like a rug, and the new AG is a handpicked lifetime conservative that advocated pardons for half a dozen people convicted in the Iran-Contra affair. He even championed pardoning Caspar Weinberger before he ever went to trial (which aborted the proceedings), and pretty much smacked of a cover up. Hmmmmm...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 8:02 PM
Just for reference:

President Bush's pardon of Caspar Weinberger and other Iran-contra defendants undermines the principle that no man is above the law. It demonstrates that powerful people with powerful allies can commit serious crimes in high office -- deliberately abusing the public trust without consequence.

Weinberger, who faced four felony charges, deserved to be tried by a jury of citizens. Although it is the President's prerogative to grant pardons, it is every American's ...more
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 8:12 PM
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"Within the Trump camp, you see participants from Watergate, Iran-Contra, War in Iraq, 2008 crash. This is an American criminal cabal that goes unpunished, and is now linked with other criminal cabals in Russia and around the world."
--Sarah Kendzior
WORD.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 28, 19 8:26 PM
"I think Rep Adam Schiff is correct, in that report will be evidence of the existence of a #conspiracy, (but) not enough evidence to prove the existence beyond a reasonable doubt."
----Judge Napolitano
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 28, 19 9:03 PM
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Will go down in the annals along with "Have you no decency, sir?"
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 28, 19 9:26 PM
"They had a number of meetings with Trump personnel back in the day but that the—the quid pro quo part—where Trump people had to work with them to get what they wanted to do, that did not evidence itself, right?”

----Judge Napolitano

Don't we already know this??
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Mar 29, 19 12:44 PM
Quid pro quo is not an element of the law. It's only necessary that a person knowingly solicited or accepted material support from a foreign state actor in a federal election.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 1:24 PM
@ Po Boy

Your obtuse, inane response the Schiff's observations reflects the perspicacity of true believers generally.

It is one of the twin pillars of your characters, the other being mendacity (as your tireless reiteration of the lie that when people (like the Border Patrol agents in April, 2018) refer to "'a' border wall", they REALLY MEAN "Trump's Wall".

Got any takers for that preposterous lie yet, Po Boy? A quick headcount has you still being the only-person-in-the-world-who-claims-to-believe-it.
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 29, 19 8:29 PM
Imagine the rage tweets comin' down the pike...

Russia responds to Mueller report: Moscow wins, Putin is stronger than Trump and US is a ‘pain in the a - -’

March 26, 2019 3.18pm EDT Updated March 28, 2019 10.56am EDT


Their message: Putin is stronger than Trump, and in any challenge, Russia wins.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 28, 19 9:13 PM
When you have to begin a rambling post with the word ''imagine'', perhaps you should consider holding back until you have something concrete that nobody needs to imagine.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 29, 19 7:49 AM
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John Harwood

@JohnJHarwood

abracadabra update:

growth declined steadily through rest of 2018

4.2% in Q2, 3.4% in Q3, 2.2% in Q4

average annual 2018 growth per BEA today:

2.85%, just below 2.88% during Obama presidency in 2015
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Mar 30, 19 1:54 AM
All of this back and forth can really be summed up in one sentence. The left is full of fakeness and ideals and the right is real and pragmatic.

As for Schiff...he’s the head of the Collusion Delusion party. Nothing more, nothing less.
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 29, 19 7:10 AM
My one-sentence summary: "in that report will be evidence of the existence of a #conspiracy, (but) not enough evidence to prove the existence beyond a reasonable doubt."

Remember how you folks were (and still are) mad that there wasn't enough evidence to convict Hillary? It's like that!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 7:41 AM
Schiff is useful idiot #1 followed closely by a few regulars here.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 29, 19 7:50 AM
Is the same true of Napolitano? Serious question, I don't know much about him.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 7:53 AM
Who cares what you want to know about some old fart on fox. serious answer.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 29, 19 8:09 AM
You apparently care enough to respond. It seems like you're accusing Schiff of being a "useful idiot" for believing the same thing as Napolitano, so the same epithet must apply to the "old fart on fox", right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 8:33 AM
Fine with me. No problem. I'm not emotionally invested in that guy.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 29, 19 9:34 AM
I appreciate your consistency but I disagree. I think wanting to see the report and understand exactly what evidence of a conspiracy there is (and isn't) makes a person prudent and thorough, rather than a useful idiot.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 11:17 AM
AG Barr would never release a summary that differs from the report he has promised to release. Same reason Trump never fired Mueller. The left is afraid that the AG is hiding evidence of something that they made up from thin air.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 29, 19 7:48 AM
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Why are you against transparency? The summary said there was insufficient evidence of a conspiracy, not zero evidence.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 7:54 AM
Who said I am against transparency? I want the report released. Same as obama's transcripts, the smollet case, the fisa court application and the full declassification of everything leading up to the russian collusion delusion, including hillary's emails and comeys memos.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 29, 19 8:07 AM
Oh good, then we're on the same team! Transparency NOW!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 8:30 AM
Yes transparency for all things right back to Obama
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 29, 19 8:54 AM
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Agreed, sunlight is the best disinfectant!

I noticed "transcripts" were among the list, Slime. Are you referring to school transcripts, and if so are you also interested in Trump's grades? I know I am!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 8:56 AM
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Donald Trump said Thursday night that there should be 'accountability' for Democrats and members of the media who promoted the now dismissed idea that his 2016 campaign colluded with Russia to tilt the presidential election.

'Their fraud has been exposed,' he told a screaming crowd to a packed house of more than 12,500 in Grand Rapids, Michigan, saying that 'they've now got big problems.'

'The hoax is finally dead! The collusion delusion is over!' Trump blasts the Mueller probe ...more
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 29, 19 8:59 AM
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Slime must also want trump's tax returns. Am I right?
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 29, 19 2:30 PM
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I think SDNY will do just fine with trumps tax returns.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 29, 19 4:13 PM
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Sure. Let's see more tax returns. Nobody has ever been able to describe what they are hoping to find in tax returns, which are not required to be shown.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 29, 19 4:33 PM
I'll elaborate: telling the IRS one thing and lenders another is a federal crime.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 4:48 PM
@Slime: Oh, I'm sure a number of investigators are "able to describe" what they're "hoping to find in trump's tax returns". You make me laugh with your pronouncements. Especially your latest re: Muslims. Hoo boy.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 29, 19 4:57 PM
First let's see the IRS returns of Democrat leaders AND their families - all ridiculously wealthy on politician's salaries.
By Taz (635), East Quogue on Mar 29, 19 5:04 PM
Why first?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 5:11 PM
Well. So far nobody I have ever come across can explain why they want to see Trumps tax returns. You’re a perfect example.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 30, 19 7:04 AM
You ever get a loan without showing your financial documents. Do you think this stuff through before you hit “done”?

Trumps banking history is none of your business. You don’t know what you don’t know. That gets you into predicaments here all the time.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 30, 19 7:07 AM
But we actually DO know from several witness statements that Trump regularly told the IRS one thing and lenders another.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 30, 19 10:08 AM
The American people are entitled to know whether or not their president is conflict-free and acting solely in the interest of the country. Which is why every one to date has volunteered his
returns, and which is what any president without conflict would want to show. What is trump hiding?
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 31, 19 6:45 PM
“The greatest threat to our constitution and economic system isn’t any foreign power, it’s the Democrat party,” “It’s the leftists within the Democrat party, because they use our liberty and our constitution to destroy our liberty and our constitution, and they’re very good at it. “This is a sick party,” “These are sick people running for president of the United States. ( Mark Levin )
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 29, 19 9:12 AM
I think the biggest threat to America is the belief that your neighbor is your enemy.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 9:30 AM

Tell that to the people in Dearborn Michigan

By Biba (541), East Hampton on Mar 29, 19 1:02 PM
Why?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 1:19 PM
Isis appeals to roughly 0.0000001 of all Muslims.right wing extremism represents the views and attitudes of 30-40% of white people. you have your boogie men confused.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 29, 19 4:26 PM
About 15 to 20% of Muslims are extremists. That's that's between 180,000,000 and 300,000,000 Muslims committed to the destruction of western civilization. Your statement about ''white people'' is ridiculous.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 29, 19 4:36 PM
Where do you gather that statistic from, Slime?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 4:45 PM
Mark Levin?

Why should any sane person cares about the opinion of Mark Levin?
By VOS (1195), WHB on Mar 29, 19 4:45 PM
A Constitutiopnal expert and formerly at a high level at the Justice dept. He knows more than u in his little finger. Maybe u should listen to him and learn.
By Taz (635), East Quogue on Mar 29, 19 5:00 PM
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Can we focus on why Slime thinks 300M people want to kill him?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 5:10 PM
Probably just because he is a Christian ? That's all the motivation they've used for centuries now.
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 29, 19 5:54 PM
Who is "they"? How did you arrive at that statistic?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 11:28 PM
We saw the Barr report, where is the Mueller report, promised transparency by the child-liar-in-chief? Fact is the orange chimpanzee was the hand-picked useful idiot by Agent Oranges bromance master.
By Mets fan (1428), Southampton on Mar 29, 19 9:14 AM
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YANKEES 7, ORIOLES 2

Luke Voit’s Blast Makes Yankees’ Opener a Breeze

Glorious daydreams abound on opening day, when each team’s slate is clean and the season’s inevitable trials and tribulations haven’t yet piled up. But the images of winning a pennant and hoisting the World Series trophy are far more realistic for some — the 2019 Yankees included.
By joe hampton (3348), The Hamptons on Mar 29, 19 9:55 AM
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Google John Solomon’s recent article on Hillary’s relationship with Ukraine and ukraines version of our FBI. You want Russia collusion? You’ll find a lot of answers there. The hens are coming home to roost. This is going to get REALLY Interesting....
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 29, 19 4:58 PM
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Oh Disease, FYI, no one who values truth would have a lick of interest in anything by John Solomon, a "journalist" discedited even by his peers. To wit:
In 2007, Paul McCleary of the Columbia Journalism Review wrote that Solomon had earned a reputation for hyping stories without solid foundation. In 2012, Mariah Blake, writing for the Columbia Journalism Review, wrote that Solomon "has a history of bending the truth to his storyline," and that he "was notorious for massaging ...more
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 29, 19 9:24 PM
It’s a logical fallacy to attack the source without addressing whether the information presented is valid or not. Avoiding the point and attacking the source is very 3rd reich.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 30, 19 7:09 AM
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Hey Slime, apparently your reading skills are lacking. It is Solomon's former bosses and peers who have been attacking him as a disreputable journalist over many years. The post was to point out yet another instance of the reich (sic) wingers on this thread consistently hinging on and citing propagandic nonsense as truth.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 30, 19 10:51 AM
Moderate vs extreme in Islam is only in reference to the actions taken to achieve the goal ....
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Mar 29, 19 5:44 PM
And what do YOU think is the only and exclusive goal of 2 billion people?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 29, 19 11:30 PM
Over 50% of muslims support “soft jihad” or the brutally violent laws of Sharia. That’s about 900,000,000 people who believe that women have no rights, gays must die and young girls are property of the community. Thank you.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 30, 19 7:01 AM
How do you arrive at that statistic, Slime? You don't even know any Muslims!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 30, 19 10:09 AM
Oh please stop defending radical Islam fore If you are a Muslim then speak out against what radical Islam has done in the name of your religion. If you cant do that then you are a part of the problem and not welcome in this country. Why cant you just agree with what Slime said or are you for woman having less say ? and Gays being terrorized ?

Just a simple answer to the question please, its not that hard..... non of your usual subterfuge!
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 30, 19 10:16 AM
And do tell us FBHG , how would you know if SA does or does not “know any Muslims”..?
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Mar 30, 19 10:20 AM
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It hard looking deep into your mirror isn't it Fore. They facts just don't line up to well do they.
Mar 30, 19 10:25 AM appended by 27dan
It hard looking deep into your mirror isn't it Fore. The facts just don't line up to well do they.
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 30, 19 10:25 AM
He may not divulge , however one thing is clear ..he’s biased against Jews & Israel ....
He’s going to insist this is a lie
But the proof is in the relentless attacks against the only Jewish state that is surrounded by Muslim majority countries....
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Mar 30, 19 10:29 AM
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Ditch: I can't agree with what Slime said because it's unsupported trash meant to create division and foster hate against fellow Americans.

He has no source for his belief that 900M people are as he says they are and only trashy people would choose to believe it without evidence.

Biba: That's what I gather from his caricature views and broad assumptions about hundreds of millions of people.
Mar 30, 19 10:29 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
And that's a trashy accusation, Biba. It's not MY fault that the UN concluded Israel is an apartheid state.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 30, 19 10:29 AM
Hey Fore, THAT'S NOT WHAT DITCH ASKED YOU TO ANSEREW, WAS IT !

"are you for woman having less say ? and Gays being terrorized ?"

Just ansewr the qestion Fore are you personally against this kind of thing ?

YES OR NO FORE ?

By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 30, 19 10:35 AM
Of course not. That's an idiotic accusation, anyone who believes it is a moron, and I chose to ignore it in favor of addressing his other question: "Why cant you just agree with what Slime said"
Mar 30, 19 10:40 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
How about this: those of you who genuinely believe almost 1 Billion muslims hate you, raise your hands! I dare you to be open about what you believe instead of coming to others' defense when their accusations are scrutinized.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 30, 19 10:40 AM
If .001% of the 1 Billion are extremists, that's 1 million who hate us. Enough to be concerned about, no?
By Taz (635), East Quogue on Mar 30, 19 10:51 AM
Is anyone going to tell him, or should I?

Check your math, smart guy.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 30, 19 12:12 PM
Yep, again, THAT's the important take away...
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 2, 19 11:33 AM
.001% of 1 billion is 10 thousand, not 1 million. Taz's math was off by two orders of magnitude.

That's almost as bad as Slime's unsupported belief that nine hundred million people hate him.

No, I'm not concerned that 10,000 people around the world "hate us" and I'm pretty sure the number (in total, not just Muslims) is far higher.

So what percentage of Muslims do YOU think are violent extremists and what support do YOU have for that number, Po?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 11:52 AM
Somewhere between 1 and 1 billion wouldn't you say?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 2, 19 7:27 PM
No, I wouldn't, but you're free to say whatever you want, even if it's just unsupported trash.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 8:00 PM
I really don’t think Trump is going to fire Mueller. Despite the ability of the media to froth its leftist readers into a hysterical frenzy I can’t see why Trump needs to. The Mueller report will exonerate Trump and democrats will lose their minds.

They will probably come up with a second, fresh conspiracy that the DOJ is now protecting Trump and Barr has issued a fake summary that will contradict the report that will be released....
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 30, 19 7:14 AM
Conspiracy?kinda like this?AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones blamed the various claims he's made over the years, including that the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre was a hoax, on "psychosis," according to a deposition the "Infowars" host has given as part of a Texas lawsuit.

Jones described his conspiracy thinking as a kind of mental disorder during the deposition taken earlier this month for the lawsuit filed against him by the family of a 6-year-old ...more
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 30, 19 7:37 AM
How does Alex Jones' conspiracy BS have anything to do with President Trump being vindicated of the preposterous claims of being a Russian asset and colluding with them to somehow steal the Presidency from the PIAPS?
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 30, 19 8:16 AM
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It was an example of conspiracy theories, nothing more. It was a reply to slimey. Your fellow posters have posted many many conspiracy’s on here, as you have. Give it a rest.trump is still a low moral loser.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 30, 19 8:45 AM
Low, Losing, Left.
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 30, 19 9:16 AM
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It was an example of conspiracy theories, nothing more. It was a reply to slimey. Your fellow posters have posted many many conspiracy’s on here, as you have. Give it a rest.trump is still a low moral loser.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 30, 19 8:45 AM
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Literally the rantings of a madman.

"Alex Jones claims 'psychosis' made him question Sandy Hook massacre" March 30, 2019
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 30, 19 10:06 AM
Just face the facts already you libbies. You lost and you lost badly. Rachel Maddow lost over 500,000 viewers since her mini breakdown over her consistent fake reporting of the Russia hoax. Jeff Zucker should be outright replaced for forcing his “journalists” to abide by his rules on spewing lies and false narratives 24-7. Say what you want about Hannity but he’s 100% correct when he says that journalism in this country is dead. MSNBC, CNN and the rest of MSM all spew and spin ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 30, 19 9:23 AM
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Hannity isn’t a journalist , he’s an entertainer.you stand behind trump, biggest liar in modern history. At least we know he didn’t collude with the Russians. Wait till we get a look at the mueller report.see what else the liar in Chief was up to.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 30, 19 9:29 AM
Lets release everything and see what everyone is up to including Hillary and Obama something tells me if that offer was on the table you would be running for cover!

Keep America Great Trump 2020!
By Ditch Bum (800), Water Mill on Mar 30, 19 10:21 AM
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What is "everything"? We're asking to see a specific report. What is it that YOU want to see?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 30, 19 10:32 AM
I don't know about Ditch but I would love to see the 33,000 emails but that might be a little hard after Hillary and her staff used bleach bit and then busted up all the hard drives and phones with hammers !

Nothing suspicious about that right Fore ?
By Undocumented Democrat (1933), southampton on Mar 30, 19 10:39 AM
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In accordance with law. What's the crime, UD?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 30, 19 10:41 AM
A full examination of the skulduggery perpetrated by the Obama FBI and Justice Dept in the Clinton investigation It was not just a "matter."
By Taz (635), East Quogue on Mar 30, 19 10:41 AM
@bigfresh: ".... How did they influence the election? Please don't bother with the fakebook line, nobody with a lick of sense gets their news from that sewer".
By bigfresh (4188), north sea on Mar 28, 19 4:33 PM"
The answer(s) to the question you pose re: outside influence on our election are outlined in a report by Clint Watts of the Foreign Policy Research Institute entitled "Five Generations of Online Manipulation: The Evolution of Advanced Persistent ...more
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 30, 19 11:33 AM
If "the Russians" somehow illegally entered our great nation en masse and all pulled the lever for President Trump or Hillary then that would be outside influence. Those foolish to get their news and form their political opinions from blather on fakebook are a lost cause and are prime candidates for falling for fake news from CNN and the alt left main stream media.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Mar 30, 19 1:43 PM
Ever hear of the KGB, now GRU? Maybe the most sophisticated masters of deceit/manipulation to ever exist to date. With China et al. gaining ground.. You actually think all it takes for hostile bad actors to affect the vote in democracies is to physically pull levers? Really??? Ever watch/read a spy movie/novel? Man, this level of naivete is astounding.
You're not even able to see the contradiction here. First, you assert the only way for outside influence on our elections ...more
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 30, 19 2:31 PM
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He’s a Rush Limbaugh parrot, kinda sad.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 30, 19 2:38 PM
Additional material, Mr. Fresh, you might find enlightening vis-a-vis the machinations the Russians employ to achieve Putin's goal of destroying the global economic, political and military alliances that don't serve him:
Buzzfeed has published an absolute blockbuster of a report that Russia cultivated relationships with U.S. Treasury Department employees under a program designed to share information about ISIS funding. Using private Gmail and Hotmail accounts, the Russian financial crimes ...more
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 30, 19 8:06 PM
Obama’s FBI used a bogus file of fiction bought by Hillary’s campaign to mislead a fisa court judge so it could spy on the nominee for the opposing party and then pressure a probe after the GOP victory. But, this isn’t a scandal about the corruption of Democrats or DOJ because “Shut up, bot!”
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 30, 19 5:00 PM
Here's your fiction.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 30, 19 5:09 PM
Did the cow jump over the moon before or after the steele report?
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 30, 19 5:34 PM
Fox News’ Chris Wallace Sets Record Straight: Russia Investigation Did Not Start With Trump Dossier
‘This will drive some of our viewers nuts,’ the ‘Fox News Sunday’ host noted. ‘The Trump investigation did not start with the FISA warrant and Carter Page and the dossier.’
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 30, 19 5:53 PM
Let me guess. You detest Fox and its hosts but when they say things with which you agree they are being accurate and responsible in that moment.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 31, 19 6:30 AM
I think Fox has fantastic news anchors. It's their opinion people that are trash-peddlers.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 1, 19 5:53 PM
And by "trash-peddlers" you mean those who use the Left's folly, aka actual words, to point out its lunacy...

By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 2, 19 11:20 AM
Nope, I was talking about people who yell opinions at the camera during prime-time as a means of attracting viewers.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 11:34 AM
Yeah, that ain't FOX. You'll find that "yelling" to be a replay of actual events with context added...which attracts viewers.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 2, 19 12:44 PM
Are you sure you've never seen, say, Tucker Carlson yelling at the camera?

I guess you're not as big a fan as I thought, which is obviously a good thing.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 1:28 PM
Actually yelling, no, never. But I do see a ton of video clips of Democrats saying and doing countless anti-American and/or stupid thingsiving context to the stupidity. Just last night for example, Tucker played video of a CNN host doting all over Ay-OC and the Green New Deal referring to some who refer to it as the "our only hope for survivial and the way of life we hold dear." THEN...wait for it...Tucker played a clip where Ay-OC had a moment of lucidity in speaking of how the country no longer ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 2, 19 7:20 PM
Then I suggest a quick search for "Tucker Carlson yelling" if you don't believe me. YouTube is full of examples.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 7:50 PM
And by screaming, you mean engaging in a debate whereby you and mob don't like his message or criticism.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 3, 19 12:29 PM
I used "yelling" but yes, he does scream as well.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 3, 19 12:34 PM
No he doesn't. There is a difference between debating and yelling.

Learn it.
Apr 4, 19 12:25 AM appended by Po Boy
....and screaming...
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 4, 19 12:25 AM
Sure he does. He raises his voice, drowns out his opponents, and calls them names.

You think that's debate? I guess that WOULD explain a lot...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 4, 19 12:36 AM

Trump is the world’s worst cheat at golf, players and celebs say
By Gavin Newsham March 30, 2019 | 8:40am | Updated


“To say ‘Donald Trump cheats’ is like saying ‘Michael Phelps swims,'” writes Rick Reilly in the new book “Commander in Cheat: How Golf Explains Trump” (Hachette Book Group), out Tuesday. “He cheats at the highest level. He cheats when people are watching and he cheats when they aren’t. He cheats whether ...more
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 30, 19 6:13 PM
You saw the same article we all saw. Yet you’re the one who dutifully cuts and pastes it here like an unpaid pavlovian soldier of the divisive propaganda wing of the federal complex.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 31, 19 6:17 AM
Yeah b/c a sure bet you wouldn't post it, or even admit to what a gross and deplorable person you idolize. I can just about imagine the howling if the piece was about Obama. Meantime, your only response is to hurl epithets at anyone who deigns to point out inconvenient truth. Pretty weak sauce there, fella'.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 31, 19 3:08 PM
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JuneBug=Triggered....period.
By DiseaseDiocese (485), Riverhead on Mar 30, 19 8:39 PM
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Whatcha' got in the way of rebuttals? Anything? Thought so.
By June Bug (2437), SOUTHAMPTON on Mar 30, 19 9:30 PM
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"Q: Mueller's report states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him' of obstructing justice.

Trump said the report was a 'complete exoneration.'

Who do you believe more - Trump or Mueller?

32% - Trump

61% - Mueller"*
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Reflecting the fact that only about a third of the American electorate is comprised of fanatical, extremist, Right-Wing, true ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 30, 19 10:41 PM
lol.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 31, 19 6:12 AM
The Bitter Clingers are alive and well.

"Q: "....The Special Counsel's decision to describe the facts of his obstruction investigation without reaching any legal conclusions leaves it to the Attorney General to determine whether the conduct described in the report constitutes a crime.....In making this determination, we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that “the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 1, 19 1:18 PM
Illegals overwhelm Texas cities...
'Never seen anything like this'...
Democrats have an extreme disdain for America and everything it stands for, so anything that will destroy it or helps them gain power they're for. They're sick, sick people.They prefer illegals and other foreigners over American citizens. Their leading presidential candidate is saying it openly. The democrats are a foreign political party at this point.
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 31, 19 2:43 AM
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I think it's 27dan et al who hate America and everything she stands for. They want to change her from a beacon of hope, freedom, and prosperity to just another self-interested nation without any unique mission or standing in the world.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 31, 19 5:52 AM
@ 27dan

- - - And (to add to Fore1gnBornHBgrown's observations) your post displays the characteristic lunatic prejudice and utter disregard for the truth that are the true believer's hallmark.

You begin your screed with an intentional misquote of a genuine article* (for which you omit attribution to prevent readers from easily discovering your lie), deliberately replacing the word "migrants" in the title of the article with "illegals". You then use this minor (by the standards ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 31, 19 8:10 AM
The “we’ve never seen anything like this” is what’s most appealing. Professional bureaucrats had their chance.
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 31, 19 8:17 AM
Sober Up, Grow Up, Vote Conservative.
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 31, 19 9:19 AM
Conservatives are always sober? No wonder they're such buzzkill.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 31, 19 10:07 AM
Fake American
Mar 31, 19 10:54 AM appended by themarlinspike
High Fake American
By themarlinspike (345), southampton on Mar 31, 19 10:54 AM
Why so mad? Too sober?
Mar 31, 19 11:17 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
And so what if I am? Chill out, man.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 31, 19 11:17 AM
You begin your screed with an intentional misquote of a genuine article* (for which you omit attribution to prevent readers from easily discovering your lie), deliberately replacing the word "migrants" in the title of the article with "illegals".

? But they are Illegal ?
By They call me (2690), southampton on Mar 31, 19 11:20 AM
Facts are their enemy, citations would skewer their misleading quotes.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Mar 31, 19 11:30 AM
?????
Wow you just perfectly described lefty liberal Democrats!!!!
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Mar 31, 19 12:19 PM
@ They call me:

Quote:

"? But they are Illegal ?"
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No, they are not.*

Your question exemplifies the intellectual torpor or determined misconception that breeds the ignorant prejudice characteristic of true believer cant.

In fact, contrary to the mendacious picture that 27dan implies, the referenced article makes clear that the migrants are legal asylum seekers who have registered with the US government and whose ...more
By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Mar 31, 19 1:32 PM
STOP YOUR GAMES !

We all know that statistically 90 + percent of these " asylum seekers " don't show up for there court date once they get passed the border process so again

STOP YOUR GAMES !

Let them stay in detention camps or Mexico until there court dates on there " asylum status is here.

lastly please

STOP YOUR GAMES !
Mar 31, 19 2:56 PM appended by 27dan
BIDEN DEFENDS HISTORY OF UNWANTED TOUCHINGJoe Biden’s history of unwanted touching threatens to put off women voters By Michael Finnegan and Melanie Mason Los Angeles Times Mar 30, 2019 Updated 1 hr ago
By 27dan (2703), Shinnecock Hills on Mar 31, 19 2:56 PM
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Hahahaha ..........oh boy
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Apr 1, 19 7:22 AM
"What is being "overwhelmed"

The capacity to process and hold them. Since most are now third country nationals, it takes several hours to process one person. Resources that take agents out of operational service. With holding facilities overwhelmed, they are released with 92% not showing for their hearing.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 1, 19 1:26 PM
keeping the alleged "asylum seekers" on the other side of the wall would alleviate the backlog in court and only allow those granted asylum entrance into our great nation. Letting them in before adjudicating each and every case is just plain wrong! Of course the alt left and their sycophants are all for it.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Apr 1, 19 5:49 PM
OR we could staff the courts properly to adjudicate people in a timely manner.

What a crazy idea, I know!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 1, 19 5:56 PM
How is that going to teach “asylum seekers” a lesson?“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Apr 1, 19 6:48 PM
Staffing the courts has nothing to do with the defendents NOT showing for court. You couldn't possibly staff courts to a sufficient level nor build facilities large enough to hold people in the numbers being experience until their court date. Especially when 85% or so don't even qualify for asylum.

And Fred, you do realize "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free” was written by a wealthy refugee advocate in a time before welfare and is situated ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 1, 19 7:41 PM
That explains why people say,” my grand parents came here legally “?because there were no immagration laws?as to who wrote it, it makes zero difference, it’s still on the Statue of Liberty and represents what America stood for. Immigration opinions changed all the time throughout our history,trump is just stoking a negative bent to appease his base. You obviously love it. They are still seeking asylum, not “asylum seekers” as your parrot co-conspirator alluded to
Apr 1, 19 7:53 PM appended by Fred s
Can you fill me in on why it matters if she was a wealthy advocate for immigration? Her ancestors came here to escape persecution in their homelands, kind of a good reason to be an advocate.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Apr 1, 19 7:53 PM
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Wouldn't faster adjudication decrease detention times, clearing up beds for new asylum seekers?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 1, 19 9:03 PM
@ Po Boy

Quote:

"92% [of asylum seekers] [do not show] for their hearing.
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ANOTHER lie.*

As the sun rises in the east.


* "Majority of undocumented immigrants show up for court, data shows" by John Kruzel (Punditfact [Politifact], June 26, 2018)


By highhatsize (4028), East Quogue on Apr 1, 19 10:07 PM
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And here I was, just ready to accept it as truth. Thanks for the fact check, Hat!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 6:02 AM
I was to lazy to fact check, thanks. But, you realize, they don’t recognize politifact.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Apr 2, 19 6:07 AM
How anyone feels about politifact is irrelevant. Facts don't care about their feelings.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 6:12 AM
But,but,but. Agreed!
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Apr 2, 19 6:22 AM
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The who's who of the Bitter Clingers...And as sure as the sun sets in the west...the truth is ever so inconvenient...

"Nearly every illegal immigrant family slated for deportation over the last six months has ignored those orders, according to the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

A staggering 92 percent of family members failed to appear at their deportation hearings in the months since September, said Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican.

He said ...more
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 2, 19 11:07 AM
So the 92% number wasn't actually about asylum seekers "not showing for their hearing"?

Thanks for proving yourself wrong!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 11:20 AM
Yes my Democratic friend, that's the important take away.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 2, 19 11:26 AM
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"Always fact check Po" is another good one.

Looks like we all learned something today!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 11:30 AM
Bring it! At the end of the day, the light still sends the cockroaches scattering.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 2, 19 11:41 AM
Agreed, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Release the Mueller report NOW!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 11:46 AM
GO MUELLER GO!!
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 2, 19 11:53 AM
He's done, buddy. Now if only we were allowed to learn what he found out...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 11:59 AM
Bitter Clinger alert!

Do you really think the report will say anything different than the Barr summary? LMAO... "learn what he found out..." HAHAHAHAHAHA
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 2, 19 12:07 PM
400 page report vs 4 page summary? Yeah, you do the math.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Apr 2, 19 12:14 PM
400 page report vs 4 page summary? Yeah, you do the math.
By Fred s (2560), Southampton on Apr 2, 19 12:14 PM
You realize that "insufficient evidence of a conspiracy" is not equivalent to "zero evidence of a conspiracy" right?

Remember how you folks were (and still are) mad that there wasn't enough evidence to convict Hillary? It's like that!

Why do you think the public shouldn't be allowed to read the report? Oh right, because any evidence of a conspiracy would reflect badly on Trump in 2020, even if it was insufficient for a charge or conviction.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 12:14 PM
I realize the same standard you folks apply to Hillary. Yes, it IS like that.

Why do you say I don't think the public shouldn't be allowed to read the report, when I didn't? I simply laughed at your bitter clinger belief there would be anything different than what was already reported.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 2, 19 12:23 PM
That was my inference, which you're free to correct at any time, though I noticed you didn't.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 1:56 PM
That's a two-way street, is it not? Though I notice you didn't apply it.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 2, 19 7:03 PM
We're all free to infer whatever we want from each other's comments, or lack thereof. Haven't you seen some of the trash I've been accused of here?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 2, 19 7:25 PM
Have you seen the trash you've accused other of here?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 3, 19 11:44 AM
Such as?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 3, 19 11:46 AM
Oh to have a dollar for every time you've said someone claimed or said something they didn't, drawing not only an inaccurate picture but painting the statement in a less than positive light...knowing...aiming for...silence equaling consent. Playing games with things like "such as" knowing full well all the times you've been corrected...

Poor poor Fore...being accused of things...

By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 3, 19 12:24 PM
No part of that comment was an example of me accusing others of anything, let alone trash, so I'll infer that you can't come up with any.

Feel free to challenge that inference, just be specific about it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 3, 19 12:39 PM
LOL, there you go...again...."infer"... "challenge that inference"

This would be another teachable moment (again) that you aren't the Arbiter-in-Chief of the narrative. But sure chief, just as soon as you send me on over the full digest of your comments, I seem to have misplaced my previous copy.
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 3, 19 1:10 PM
FYI, every user's comment history is publicly available by clicking on the number in parentheses next to their name under each and every comment they publish.

So now that I fulfilled your request, what's your excuse?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 3, 19 1:18 PM
No, I need the full 6063 searchable report. Otherwise, I can not trust the findings.

Certainly you recall the multiple incidents correcting you?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 3, 19 8:02 PM
I remember you rejecting my opinion and substituting your own, which does not make either of us right or wrong.

I also remember actually being wrong and admitting it, most recently about whether THX1138 was also a novel.

Anyway, my comments are up for all to see, and it's not my fault their format isn't to your liking. Enjoy your search, or don't. It makes no difference to me.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 3, 19 8:45 PM
Noooo, what has been rejected is you rejecting my opinion and substituting your own opinion. Taking liberties when it didn't pass your muster or when the narrative wasn't to you satisfaction.

Hence....the repeated corrections. And in doing so, deligitimzing it, accusing, and trashing opinions.

By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 3, 19 11:42 PM
Accusing who of what? Be specific.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 3, 19 11:46 PM
Such as?
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 3, 19 11:53 PM
Well that's not very specific, but I take it you're at a dead end. Enjoy!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 3, 19 11:58 PM
Not at all at a dead end, I'm simply laying the foundation for the next time you claim someone said something when they didn't , drawing not only an inaccurate picture but painting the statement in a less than positive light...knowing...aiming for...silence equaling consent. Playing games with things like "such as" knowing full well all the times you've been corrected.

The inferences... the inferences... the inferred accusations...tisk tisk
By Po Boy (4250), Water Mill on Apr 4, 19 12:21 AM
The difference between inferences and accusations is the difference between opinions and statements of fact. For example, your trash accusation that I'm "anit-American" is a statement of fact, whereas you are free to disagree with, challenge, and prove my inferences false.

Or try, at least.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6633), HAMPTON BAYS on Apr 4, 19 12:34 AM
Democrats aren’t informing their fans that Barr is required by law to redact the special counsel’s report

Dems made that law after the clinton impeachment
By SlimeAlive (1180), Southampton on Mar 31, 19 8:15 AM
Isn't the president able to declassify anything at will?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown