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Apr 8, 2010 2:34 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

Whale beached in East Hampton survives first attempt at euthanization

Apr 8, 2010 2:34 PM

The humpback whale that has been beached in East Hampton since Tuesday morning survived the first attempts to euthanize it overnight Wednesday, according to officials at Main Beach.

Members of the Riverhead Foundation for Marine Research and Preservation and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association said they attempted to put down the animal with darts but it survived the “cocktail” of chemicals.

“We tried the solution that a vet panel recommended,” said David Morin, a marine mammal biologist with NOAA. “It’s not an exact science. Sometimes these things don’t go according to plan.”

Mr. Morin described the whale’s condition as “Okay, but definitely not comfortable.”

Around 11 a.m. on Thursday, Mr. Morin and Rob DiGiovanni, a senior biologist and director at the Riverhead Foundation, held a small press conference at the beach and announced the next course of action would be to get a line around the whale’s tail and eventually move it closer to shore. Mr. Morin said part of the complication in trying to do anything with the whale is its location in the surf, where breaking waves could knock over someone trying to get closer to the whale.

“It’s not as simple as bringing your dog or cat to the vet for an injection,” he said. He estimated the whale weighs about 10,000 pounds and he said the drugs needed to euthanize it are a “very high concentration of sedatives.”

“They are extremely dangerous to handle,” he said.

Mr. DiGiovanni was fielding questions from concerned observers mid-Thursday morning. Ellen Goldberg, who was among the first to see the beached whale on Tuesday, has been back every day since and was one of those questioning Mr. DiGiovanni on Thursday.

Ms. Goldberg said she believed the Riverhead Foundation could have done more for the animal and should have attempted to rescue it.

Mr. DiGiovanni defended the foundation’s course of action and said that putting the sick animal out to sea would not have been more humane.

“That would be like me saying, ‘You’re sick, so you stand over there where I can’t see you,’” he told Ms. Goldberg.

Saskia Friedrich also stopped outside the police tape on Thursday to talk to Mr. DiGiovanni. She also said she had wanted to see a rescue.

“I think everyone was longing to see that,” she said. “At least if it did die, it would be in its natural environment, which would be better than euthanizing it.”

Chuck Bowman, president of the Riverhead Foundation, was not present at Main Beach at the time, but officials said he was there earlier on Thursday.

Mr. Bowman said on Wednesday that the foundation does not have the types of drugs or equipment it would take to euthanize the 25-foot-long adolescent whale with 8- to 12-inch thick skin and blubber, and that NOAA would determine the proper course of action.

On Tuesday, spectators reported seeing another whale swimming offshore and questioned whether it could be the calf’s mother. Mr. Bowman said there was a single whale swimming east and west that doubled back a number of times but he doubted that it was a relative of the beached whale. He said he also heard a report of a pod of humpback whales that were off Montauk and heading north, and said either the beached whale or the other could have been part of that pod.

“This was a single whale and it wasn’t acting like a mother searching for its calf,” he said. “Of course, that’s all speculation on my part. We really don’t know.”

Mr. Bowman estimated that up to 1,000 people came and went on Tuesday. The whale was still a major attraction in East Hampton on Wednesday and Thursday with a steady stream of people walking from the Main Beach parking lot to the roped off section where the whale is located. On Wednesday morning, members of the Shinnecock Indian Nation stood nearby the whale in a prayer ceremony honoring the animal.

Mr. Bowman said after the whale dies members of the foundation would perform a necropsy and bury the whale in the dunes.

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I WONDER SINCE THIS ANIMAL IS AN ENDANGERED SPECIES , CAN MR. BOWMAN BE CHARGED WITH ENDANGERING AN ENDANGERED SPECIES ? MAYBE MR. BOWMAN SHOULD BE ROLLED AROUND IN THE SURF.
By ELECTRICUTIONER (65), east islip/montauk on Apr 7, 10 5:10 PM
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"Call me Ishmael."

As this delicate and sensitive moment plays out, Mr. Bowman might consider an Archie Bunker line paraphrased from the old TV sitcom:

"Chuck, STIFLE!"

The possible euthanization (by "harpoon, . . syringe" etc. -- this is a late April Fool's Joke, right?) will be a tragic comedy of epic proportions.

Mr. Bowman, please wake up, or at least shut up.

Then call off your whale boat and harpooners.

Death is natural.

Let nature ...more
By PBR (4791), Southampton on Apr 7, 10 5:23 PM
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http://www.peta.org/about/c-contact.asp
By ELECTRICUTIONER (65), east islip/montauk on Apr 7, 10 5:30 PM
im so upset with this. i read that someone actually offered up $10,000 to help this poor beautiful creature. but no. our country will not lift a finger for something that actually has to do with out planet. but they will take our tax dollars to send our troops over seas to suffer. ROCK ON AMERICA!!!
i wish i could do something to help this baby. i know he doesnt have much energy left but we should still try to move him into deeper water. Bowman says that hes afraid that the baby with drown if ...more
By catchic55 (1), patchogue on Apr 7, 10 6:25 PM
This is so disturbing! Shame on all of the "officials" for not trying to save this whale!!! Maybe PETA Should be notified of this lack of caring and total disrespect of mother nature!!! SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!!
By SueHas (5), East Hampton on Apr 7, 10 7:01 PM
This paragraph from the article above makes me wonder:

"Chuck Bowman, president of the Riverhead Foundation for Marine Research and Preservation, said the hope is still that the whale will die naturally, but he said the members of his team were starting to devise a plan to euthanize the animal."

Is this an accurate statement from the reporter's conversation with Mr. Bowman?

Could not Mr. Bowman's first hope have been: "we hope the whale will revive and swim off to be reunited ...more
By PBR (4791), Southampton on Apr 7, 10 7:11 PM
I hate to be an armchair quarterback since my knowledge of whales is limited to my discovery channel viewing. The animal is going to die if left in it's current state. If it is dragged out to sea it will likely pass as well, but there is a very small chance it may live and swim away. Occams Razor says we at least give the former chance a shot. No? If this is something that can be attempted we would like to make a donation towards the funding of the attempt. Please call Chris at 631-288-322
By Aspatuck Gardens (26), Westhampton Beach on Apr 7, 10 7:24 PM
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631 288 3222 ... Wish they allowed editing of posts.
By Aspatuck Gardens (26), Westhampton Beach on Apr 7, 10 7:26 PM
They are ALLOWING this animal to suffer. They need to get it off the beach. its weight its crushing it to death. The whale is in pain and slowly dying. Poor thing. I can't imagine teh feeling of being crushed.
By Nikkip (2), CT on Apr 7, 10 7:55 PM
The bigger picture is why this whale beached itself in the first place. Get over blaming anyone about how to save or euthanize this beautiful creature. That facts
a staring us in the face every day. We are using our oceans as dumps for all kinds of garbage and toxic waste. Now we see the fruits of man labor. On the beach in East Hampton.
By ride the truth wave (125), southampton on Apr 7, 10 8:05 PM
once again, unfortunately this seems to actions that mr bowman seems to take. remember a couple of years back when the pod of dolphins trapped themselves in northwest harbor in east hampton. in the beginning he denied the help of many spectators/locals to herd the dolphins out of the narrow harbor. and as we all watched, the majority of them all died because mr bowman did not take immediate actions to remove the dolphins from the clogged harbor. i do not know for sure if there was an adult whale ...more
By tito (56), e hampton on Apr 7, 10 8:10 PM
BOWMAN needs to step down from PRESIDENT? and let someone who is educated about marine mammals and has the interest of the animal rather than his own in the forefront of this issue. This is a disaster and everyone knows it.
He is talking to people????Please and 48 hours later the animal still suffers.
There are enough wise educated marine biologists and naturalists around this state that to allow something like this to continue is a tragedy! Understood, it is a federal issue in regard to ...more
By JaneGill (1), Sagaponack on Apr 7, 10 8:27 PM
I pray that the good Lord takes this creature soon. I pray we learn from this experience . I pray we remove Mr. Bowman from his position NOW.
By ELECTRICUTIONER (65), east islip/montauk on Apr 7, 10 8:59 PM
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e-mail or call the Riverhead Foundation - 631-369-9840. I am in full agreement with you and that is what I am doing. Demand his resignation
By finy (14), Southampton on Apr 8, 10 9:19 PM
I thought Okeanos or whatever they call themselves now were initially about rescue and rehabilitation. That was under the guidance of Sam Sadove, before money came into play.. To think we are in 2010 and they could not come up with a more dignified way to handle this...euthanize. The intern said they did not know how to approach this without human injury. Perhaps they should have called on our local historical whaling families for some type of suggestions. Such a sad end to a beautiful creature..and ...more
By gansetteer (125), East Hampton on Apr 7, 10 9:00 PM
Sadly many of you are correct. It seems that only now is euthanazia being "discussed". As I have said in my previous comment this process does not need to involve a "harpoon" hypodermic and can be done and has been done by myself and others in years past using the existing equipment the Riverhead team has. The real problem is the lack of knowledge, information, education, and care being shown to the public, environment and the whale by Mr Bowmans responses and his lack of knowledge. Once the whale ...more
By ssadove (14), East Quogue on Apr 7, 10 9:31 PM
Sam - Ever consider starting up another marine rescue group? Everyone knows you are the only real expert on this Island. It's a shame your knowledge, skills & love of these wonderful creatures is not being used to help them anymore.
By Ms. Jane Q. Public (147), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 9:23 AM
Sam Sadove is, and always was, the true expert and scientist who was needed locally to protect marine life. Real science and not "political science" always prevails......in life and death. Thank you for stepping up and providing the concerned community with true professionalism and the scientific experise you are recognized for.
By EQme (112), East Quogue on Apr 7, 10 10:19 PM
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I just got a call from my mother and father....they said, "We got him!!"
By EQme (112), East Quogue on Apr 7, 10 10:24 PM
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By Nature (2941), Hampton Bays on Apr 8, 10 9:45 AM
Apparently naming the Whale after a certain previous public figure is deemed "innapropriate content"
By Nature (2941), Hampton Bays on Apr 8, 10 4:14 PM
Bowman didn't put the whale there and he obviously isn't going to try to rescue it either. So if he's not part of the solution then DIY. Where's the boat from Montauk or Shinnecock? Has anyone of you made a call to your friends with a vessel? Get a salvage vessel with heavy cordage and wait for the high tide, make the biggest bowline knot and try and slowly pull the whale out on the incoming high. .. step up.. blaming this kook doesn't get anyone closer to helping this beautiful mammal survive. ...more
By ride the truth wave (125), southampton on Apr 7, 10 10:25 PM
Most whales beach themselves for a reason - they're not well and probably going to die (in most cases). Make an attempt to try to save it, but if not, let nature take its course.....
By DB1218 (2), Medford on Apr 8, 10 10:06 AM
When I was a small child, I remember finding baby squirrels, and birds.
My grandmother would make a little comfortable home for the little animals, usually made from a shoe box.
We would attempt to nurse them back to health, with heat lamps, and baby formula. LOL
There was no GOOGLE, back then to help, we used natural instincts.
Funny thing…I can’t remember our survival rate. Good old grandma!
The point is WE TRIED! Respect all living things around you.
I am disgusted how ...more
By cmojo71 (6), East Hampton on Apr 8, 10 11:38 AM
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The Town of East Hampton has no say in this - it's a federally endangered animal, and is also protected under the Marine Mammals act. The only thing EH is responsible for is burying the whale after it passes.

As for Piping Plovers, they are a federally and state listed threatened/endangered species and the federal and state governments require EH to comply with the endangered species act. Closing sections of the beach to 4WD vehicles and shutting down fireworks shows are decisions required ...more
By Nature (2941), Hampton Bays on Apr 8, 10 12:54 PM
Village of East Hampton
By bonacspring (5), east hampton on Apr 9, 10 8:44 PM
well this is how OBAMMA CARE will work for all you sick folks who have a disease that's not covered. you'll be left to die in your own bed. hopefully it doesn't last too long. maybe TIMMY will climb out of his well and tell you how dismayed he is with your passing. don't count on it.
By uncleronk (136), southold on Apr 8, 10 11:51 AM
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Obummer....you're right on target about that one! Just wait and see who you get as your doctor under this genius "plan"....You'll hope someone will put you out of your misery.
By EQme (112), East Quogue on Apr 8, 10 12:09 PM
A daily Long Island tabloid newspaper is reporting that the whale was darted last night, but that the sedation attempt failed!

This whale does not want to go, but the Human Beings (???) will probably bring out bigger cannons.

You can't make this stuff up!

What happened to death with dignity?

What a circus.
By PBR (4791), Southampton on Apr 8, 10 12:29 PM
You are correct. I have a good inside connection.
DO you know they used the same kind of drug a vet uses to put dogs down?
Ridiculous!!!!! Of course it didn’t work!
By cmojo71 (6), East Hampton on Apr 8, 10 12:52 PM
I understand the frustration, in my opinion though it's much more difficult to save the whale than many think. You would need a relatively large, powerful vessel to haul thousands of pounds out of sand, and boats like that simply cannot navigate in such shallow ocean surf, which is the current problem after the last storm. A boat coming from say, Montauk, would run the high risk of running aground trying to reach it, and the only people with the knowledge to launch a boat from the beach are our ...more
By RubyBaby (28), East Hampton on Apr 8, 10 2:06 PM
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The Riverhead Foundation for Marine Research and Preservation site states, "Every attempt is made to rehabilitate and release live stranded animals back to the wild," where was the attempt here??? From looking at the foundations website and the annual stranding records it seems as though almost every time a whale is stranded they end up euthanizing it. I understand many times the animal has beached itself because of illness and it may not be the easiest thing to move but at least make some kind ...more
By WM11976 (12), Water Mill on Apr 8, 10 2:35 PM
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This is awful to watch the juvenile whale suffer. If someone at least got him to sea mother nature could play out. The whale would either survive or complete the cycle of life in his death. Whale carcasses can float for months, feeding hundreds of species and playing an important part in the food chain. Helpess as we seem, there could have been a more valiant attempt made.
By tuckahoetrip (46), Water Mill on Apr 8, 10 3:10 PM
Mother Nature is playing out - it is natural for a sick whale to beach itself. It just so happens that it beached itself on a popular beach and humans are now witness to it. This is something that has played out as long as whales have existed. I agree it's sad and terrible, but if the Whale didn't become beached due to direct actions by humans, this is natural and mother nature. If you take it out to sea there's a chance of sharks eating it alive - is that "better"?

I do agree that ...more
By Nature (2941), Hampton Bays on Apr 8, 10 3:44 PM
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Indeed, plus a necropsy after it passes will be extremely helpful, so we can determine if it was beached by sheer natural causes or by something else, that way we can help avoid another event like this in the future.
By RubyBaby (28), East Hampton on Apr 8, 10 4:16 PM
They certainly would, because whether it's sick/injured or healthy (and it being healthy is slim for it to beach itself in the first place), you're still stuck in the same position when it comes to rescue. You can't tow it out by boat due to the area it's in, and you can't get a group of people to push it by hand, because if you get hit by the tail of a 2 ton panicked young whale you might as well of gotten hit by a car. If it was a smaller animal things would be much different, but how do you ...more
By RubyBaby (28), East Hampton on Apr 8, 10 5:27 PM
Yes, that would be better, than humans acting this way!
By cmojo71 (6), East Hampton on Apr 8, 10 4:12 PM
Call me Ishmael, speaking for the beached whale "Montauk."

Now the same daily up-island tabloid (URL links are forbidden here by the paper powers that be) is reporting that another round of darts has been flung into this fine animal, and that the higher powers that be are considering dragging "Montauk" onto the beach to make the murder of this fine soul easier for The Human Beings (?).

Go figure.

Shame on you Chuck, and all other "rescuers."
By PBR (4791), Southampton on Apr 8, 10 4:44 PM
Call in an air strike! An ANG A-10 rolling in from Bradley Field in Westfield MA could put this animal out of its misery in short order.

Peace on Earth!
By PBR (4791), Southampton on Apr 8, 10 4:47 PM
Correction: Barnes Field, Westfield MA.
By PBR (4791), Southampton on Apr 8, 10 5:42 PM
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By lablover (104), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 8:40 AM
A lot of people are under the impression that this animal could have been saved or dragged off the beach and back into the sea, but Mr. Bowman chose not to for unscientific reasons. I'm being completely serious when I ask this:

What does Mr. Bowman gain by leaving the whale to die? Why would he *NOT* do what is best for the animal? What is the *angle* he is playing?

perhaps the answer is just lack of knowledge/experience?
By Nature (2941), Hampton Bays on Apr 8, 10 7:15 PM
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i believe it is a combination. i cite the incident again in the northwest harbor with dolphins. over a dozen dolphins died and the attemps to rescue them were days late and not proactive enough. even with the information given to him about the depths of the harbor and shoaling from numerous locals, he sat on his hands and watched to many of them die.
By tito (56), e hampton on Apr 8, 10 9:11 PM
It is an absolute disgrace with regard to how the President of the Riverheard Foundation for Marine Research, Mr. Bowman, has handled this crisis. He has the nerve to constantly go on news programs to justify his actions pertaining to this matter. Mr. Bowman has shown time and time again that he is not qualified - educationally or by his background experience - to be in this position to make decisions of this nature. He should resign immediately as President of this wonderful organization, or ...more
By finy (14), Southampton on Apr 8, 10 9:11 PM
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Why would he purposely *NOT* do the right thing? That doesn't make sense to me.
By Nature (2941), Hampton Bays on Apr 8, 10 9:38 PM
Have you not been listening or reading - he is not qualifited. Along with the whale he is in over his head and just spewing hot air. Unfortunately the calf is dying an agonizing death while Mr. Bowman grandstands on the beach for the cameras and audience.
By finy (14), Southampton on Apr 8, 10 9:56 PM
bowman..credentials? Forestry is what the word is...seems a world away from "marine"....take a sharp shoter down there with whayever they need and put this poor baby out of its misery..this isn't discovery channel in the hamptons now is it??
By gansetteer (125), East Hampton on Apr 8, 10 9:44 PM
Huh!!! His background is in Forestry? He claims he is a Marine Biologist! I would say he is not qualified. We are all here expressing our outrage of the treatment of this poor pathetic creature, but Mr. Bowman is still posing for the cameras. It is obvious that he is not reading our comments. How do we go about informing him of the public outrage at his ineptitude - any and all suggestions?? I still say we should all pressure the Riverhead Foundation for his resignation - money talks. There ...more
By finy (14), Southampton on Apr 8, 10 10:11 PM
I do not know Mr. Bowman, and I am not attempting to defend him - more asking what the consensus is out there as to why someone would not do the right thing and "save face".

What I do know, is that Mr. Bowman is the president of the *ONLY* licensed/accredited marine mammal rescue facility in NYS and has staff has been successful in saving many seals and sea turtles and dealing with other emergency situations.

I also know that NOAA (National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Association) ...more
By Nature (2941), Hampton Bays on Apr 8, 10 10:24 PM
Thank you, Nature.

I have known Chuck Bowman my whole life. He is neither incompetent, nor unqualified for the position he holds. I can't believe the way he is betting treated on this site. You people should be ashamed of yourselves.

Anything that they do has to be approved by NOAA/NMFS. They have jurisdiction over Cetaceans. Chuck isn't calling the shots. He has a team comprised of his Biologists & Government scientists. Do you people really think that chuck is the only one making ...more
By Draggerman (614), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 7:09 AM
Okay, this is the most heartbreaking story I have heard in a long time, and I think that any normal human being would like to be optimistic and hope for a rescue. But those of you who think that the marine biologists are being cruel, or aren't doing the right thing...you are obviously ignorant! There are many things to take into consideration when rescuing large marine life that you will never know, nor will I!! So keep your nasty comments and speculations to yourselves and let the professionals ...more
By puppyluvr620 (1), Levittown on Apr 9, 10 9:00 AM
YO PUPPY,YOU ARE THE CLUELESS ONE!!! NUMEROUS PROFESSIONALS IN THIS FIELD HAVE CONDEMNED THE RESCUE ATTEMPT . READ THE BLOGS AND PAPERS BEFORE YOU PIPE UP !!!!!!
By ELECTRICUTIONER (65), east islip/montauk on Apr 9, 10 10:06 AM
Apparently they got it right the second time. The whale was euthanized sometime during the night.

The one thing I wonder is about all the people who put up such a fuss about not wanting dogs on the beach. Dogs on the bach? NO! Whales in the beach? I guess that's ok.
By itsamazing (196), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 9:01 AM
pay me enough money and i will burry the whale on the beach
By fdny7318 (60), Water Mill on Apr 9, 10 9:18 AM
9:52 AM whale is STILL ALIVE !!!! WHAT A BUNCH OF STOOGES OUT THERE.!!!
By ELECTRICUTIONER (65), east islip/montauk on Apr 9, 10 9:54 AM
You will know when the whale is dead when you see tears in the eyes of Mr. Bowman.
By finy (14), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 10:05 AM
YEAH BECAUSE HE THINKS HIS 15 MINUTES OF FAME ARE OVER. LONG FROM IT. HE WILL BE IN THE SPOTLIGHT FOR A LONG TIME FROM NOW. BOWMAN YOU STOOGE , YOU NEED TO RESIGN NOW!!
By ELECTRICUTIONER (65), east islip/montauk on Apr 9, 10 10:10 AM
that and phony comes to mind.
By finy (14), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 11:42 AM
Riverhead Foundation for Marine Research and Preservation will never receive my donations ever again until the entire board is removed. What a disaster. Those people out there are a bunch of STOOGES !!
By ELECTRICUTIONER (65), east islip/montauk on Apr 9, 10 10:04 AM
When I was 4 years old, I found a beached whale ashore in Westhampton. It was already dead, but I remember standing next to it, it's giant, open eye level with mine. I ran back to the house to tell my parents and within an hour the shoreline was filled with boats and coast guardsmen with the proper equipment to haul it back into deep sea where they felt it belonged (though now a days I can understand the need for autopsy). So if that was protocol in 1972, why on earth wasn't this whale brought ...more
By berrilynn (2), Sag Harbor on Apr 9, 10 10:10 AM
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They brought the whale out to sea because it was already dead. This whale was alive and would likely just beach itself again. Plus, there are "liability" issues in this day and age unfortunately with this sort of thing - so if someone ran their boat into the whale you know they'd sue.

In 1970 in Oregon, a dead whale washed up and officials didn't know how to get rid of it (apparently bringing it out to sea didn't cross their minds). So, they used a 1/2 ton of TNT to blow it up. Whale ...more
By Nature (2941), Hampton Bays on Apr 9, 10 10:30 AM
As of this moment 10.25am Our whale has just made his way to peace. Thank God!.
Now the circus can pack up and go hide!
By cmojo71 (6), East Hampton on Apr 9, 10 10:30 AM
so who here knows anything about whales?...

p.s.
PETA is the WORST
By dogfacejones (77), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 10:51 AM
I was down there for a bit, and watched the helpless suffering calf gingerly flail in the surf while about a dozen people in their VIP human section were hanging out, eating, text-messaging and basically doing nothing.... I guess killing time until the whale died.
All the girls in the red shirts looked like they were right out of college, and had that lola-granola marine biologist look about them, but didn't appear to have that cool, Ivy League activist look about them. They looked more ...more
By BeachMuse (8), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 12:06 PM
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BEACHMUSE ,I AGREE 100% WITH YOUR POST . THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT.
By ELECTRICUTIONER (65), east islip/montauk on Apr 9, 10 12:39 PM
A lot of them look young and as if they're right of college, becuase they *ARE* young and right out of (or in) college. They're either interns or volunteers - very few people get paid at the Riverhead Foundation. Those who volunteer or intern with the Riverhead Foundation almost certainly are marine biology or a similar area of study majors and have a passion and interest in marine mammals and sea turtles.

The Riverhead Foundation has a superb track record for rescuing and rehabbing ...more
By Nature (2941), Hampton Bays on Apr 9, 10 12:53 PM
I agree with BeachMuse... Bowman's statement that the whale is sick is speculation. He doesn't KNOW it's sick, he's assuming... I agree that it should have been dragged out first, see what happens... this was all such a tragedy.
By Gail (4), East Hampton on Apr 9, 10 1:06 PM
Nature states that "those who intern or volunteer with the Riverhead Foundation almost cetainly are marine biology or a similiar area of study majors" - ask him what background and marine biology credentials Mr. Bowman has to hold this position of President!. Let him volunteer.
By finy (14), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 2:26 PM
I was not speaking of Mr. Bowman, but of the people who work for the Riverhead Foundation - who are actually in the field working with these animals.

Mr. Bowan is the President of the Riverhead Foundation doesn't *have* to be a marine biologist since he isn't adminstering drugs or saving animals or making decisions in the field. The accusations that he should be fired because he is not a marine biologist are akin to saying the President should be removed from office because he is not a ...more
By Nature (2941), Hampton Bays on Apr 9, 10 3:05 PM
I know nothing of Mr. Bowman, but I believe his credentials are important. He may not *have* to be a marine biologist, but it would certainly help! And, knowing nothing of the board members (yet) I would also like to see that some of them have some certifications/experience in the field of marine biology. We would expect, at the very minimum, that our own emergency responders, fire, police personnel have certifications required for the job...why would we expect less from the President of the ...more
By cpk21 (14), Hampton Bays on Apr 9, 10 3:30 PM
I state the same for the President of the U.S. - I guess he has to GO! Only wish it was that easy. But again, that is another topic for another day.
By finy (14), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 6:20 PM
Great comments.....the rude man in charge ( in the red shirt )said don't critisize us we are ALL volunteers...but when I looked him up it appears he is on salary.
He said he is sick and he has come in to die.....
Well in five minutes I read that humpback prefer shallows waters when they are migrating...google it ...I learned alot! That first day I tried to organize peolpe to storm the "crime scene" tape ....oh how I wish I had!
By roxanne Briggs (10), East Hampton on Apr 10, 10 9:20 PM
The same daily tabloid is now reporting that a two-foot long tranquilizer dart has been lost at sea, and that divers are attempting to find it. The powers that be ("you call this power?") are not sure if the chemical contents of the dart are still inside. Reading between the lines of the article, it appears that the dart could still release its contents if the someone were to come in contact with the dart's tip (assuming that this did not already happen when the dart was shot, and presumably missed ...more
By PBR (4791), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 3:17 PM
The article says there is a 4 PM news conference, but does not indicate its location.
By PBR (4791), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 3:19 PM
New article posted.
By PBR (4791), Southampton on Apr 9, 10 3:35 PM
No wonder some much crime scene tape...it was a crime scene in the making...poor poor baby whale not given ONE chance to be set out to sea...We can send a man to the moon but can't give a baby humpback a 10 yard ride to deeper water....
By roxanne Briggs (10), East Hampton on Apr 10, 10 9:12 PM
Please watch the video on you tube of heroes who did what EH should have been able to do but were prevented from doing so.
Shame on you Riverhead Marine Foundation for not allowing at least one attempt at putting him back out to sea....this country can put a man on the moon and you all cannot give a baby whale a 10 yard ride out to sea for just one little chance for a miracle......see the you tube video of heroes will accomplished a miracle rescue of a baby humpback in Canada.
See you tube... ...more
By roxanne Briggs (10), East Hampton on Apr 10, 10 9:14 PM
I'd like to add the following thoughts:
1. I feel bad for criticizing those who volunteer their time for -any- animal or nature cause, your time and efforts are to be commended and applauded for you do more than most of us do.
It was wrong of me to belittle members of the Riverhead team who may or may not have any authority.

2. It continues to be my understanding that the Riverhead foundation actually does have 100% complete authority of the entire coast line of Long Island when ...more
By BeachMuse (8), Southampton on Apr 12, 10 12:20 AM
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"9 whales are rescued and released in Fiji. Villagers got together and returned 9 whales to the sea. No NOAA, no "nonprofits", no "experts". Job is done by people who have no agenda and just wanted to help poor whales. Why are poor villagers able to do what 10 PhDs and dozens of "experts" are not?

http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=144320"
By new scientist (68), Clearwater on Apr 12, 10 6:36 PM
Firecracker 8K run & 3 Mile Walk Southampton Village 4th of July weekend