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Sep 7, 2010 5:40 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

Critics respond to airport plan

Sep 7, 2010 5:40 PM

When asked about the routing, Mr. Stanzione referred to the town’s own comments to the FAA on the proposed New York North Shore Route.

“The Town of East Hampton believes that the NYNSR is the first step in addressing, in a comprehensive and thoughtful manner, the problem of helicopter overflights and noise throughout the East End of Long Island,” the comments begin.

Later in the document, the comments include the suggestion that the FAA analyze what the town called the “Atlantic Route.”

“The analysis should compare the relative benefits of the NYNSR with a route that would direct helicopter traffic off the South Shore of Long Island (The Atlantic Route). The Atlantic Route could produce meaningful benefits especially for over-land helicopter traffic since many of the eastern Long Island origins/destinations for helicopter traffic are located closer to an to off-shore Atlantic Route than to the proposed NYNSR. An Atlantic Route would minimize the over-land routes and could, therefore, produce greater benefits than the NYNSR.”

Mr. Wilkinson did not respond to a request for comment on the airport critics’ remarks.

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Please, for the love of our community, I beg you to please adopt the ideas of Mr.Bishop in regard to helicopter routing. I can no longer have a conversation in my backyard on Friday or Sunday nights and the plates rattle in our cupboard. Often we get 3-4 helicopters in a row over a 2-3 minute time frame. We literally have to stop what we're doing until the persistent traffic subsides. Sounds like i'm whining, but it really is awful. I'd shoot them down personally if I thought I wouldn't get caught. ...more
By HarborDad (37), Sag Harbor on Sep 8, 10 12:46 PM
The Bishop-Schummer plan does benefit those living along LI's North Shore by requiring helos to fly further offshore; but it does NOTHING for us. They will still fly similar routes out here as they approach and leave the airport; they will still be an uncontrolled bunch of air jockeys flying at will. It contains NO NOISE ABATEMENT solution for the East End. The EH Town GEIS contains NO NOISE ABATEMENT solution either. I hope that there is a requirement that they fly far offshore completely around ...more
By SagHarborBob (91), Sag Harbor on Sep 11, 10 7:08 AM
Here's a radial idea...close the airport and sell the land for development. Use the money to paydown the Town's debt, fund the underfunded pensions, rebuild the roads and hire a limo service to drive those few airport users from Westhampton airport to the Hamptons is Grand style. Think outside the box.

While the town is reviewing its "Master Plan" close and sell the Montauk airport before a real tragedy occurs.
By voter (33), Amagansett on Sep 8, 10 2:25 PM
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The Montauk airport is privately owned!
Selling someone else's private property is a RADICAL idea. Good luck with that!
By Waincott Resident (42), Wainscott on Sep 10, 10 12:18 PM
Good for you "voter". Iv'e been advocating a sale of the airport for the past 2 years (even in these pages last week) and your the only one to pick up on that radical idea. If not sell, downsize. If not that privatize. If not that lease. Thats the plans of the present town board for everything else in town so why not the airport? Likely political connections but certainly FAA requirements. The town took $ from the feds before and the requirements of that handout resulted in an airport that serves ...more
By facts man (148), east hampton on Sep 8, 10 3:35 PM
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Yes, please SELL THE AIRPORT. The constant barrage of noise is insane.
We have airplanes, jets and helicopters flying over and around our house constantly. The "Master Plan" is a joke............unfortunately one being played on us local year-round resident taxpayers.
We no longer have the use of our own property.
I agree with Ms. Currie, who when attending the meeting, said "Shame on you."
Yes, everyone involved in "protecting the noise" seems to be morally bankrupt.
What ...more
By lovesag (17), Sag Harbor on Sep 8, 10 3:58 PM
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Does anyone have a serious idea about a "next step" that might be productive to ending the Noise Beast of East Hampton ? Appealing to the common sense of EH and SH Boards was a joke; attending the meeting this article is about was a wasted effort - the Republican members of the EH Board rubber stamped their approval to seek the FAA money. Once done, our fate is sealed for the next 20 years and will be living with a larger and more obnoxious Noise Beast than you've seen so far. Count on it.
PLEASE ...more
By SagHarborBob (91), Sag Harbor on Sep 8, 10 5:40 PM
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Yeah, let's close all the airports and ban flying. Please. East Hamtpon Airport is just fine. You buy a house near an airport, what do you expect?
By Dayo (33), Sag Harbor on Sep 9, 10 8:30 AM
Let em fly over your hose, jockey!
By Trish (91), Sag Harbor on Sep 10, 10 12:57 PM
West of the canal, we fought hard to bring attention to the need for noise control. There was virtually no consideration given to the impact increased aviation activities was having on area residents and plans were being made to expand airport use that would have led to the destruction of the fragile eco-system and ruined our quality of life. We did it the old fashioned way, formed a civic association, mobilized the community, packed hearing rooms, demanded an audience, got the message to the ...more
By usuallyquietonquiogue (10), Westhampton Beach on Sep 9, 10 9:22 AM
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Really Dayo? You can't imagine how buying a home 15 years ago, 6 miles away from an airport might be an extremely different situation now then it was back then, or even 10 years ago? I have no statistics to base this on, but I would bet money that the amout of helicopter traffic out of the East Hampton airport has increased in excess of 400% in that time period.
By HarborDad (37), Sag Harbor on Sep 9, 10 12:47 PM
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I've lived in Wainscott full time for over 23 years. The airport has been there since the thirties. I knew it was there when I bought my house.
Has traffic increased at the airport - YES.
Has traffic increased on Montauk highway in the summer - to the point that we can NEVER make a left onto the highway and the ambulance sirens are constantly blaring because the summer dirvers are playing bumper cars on the highway and everywhere else in Town - YES .
So I propose that we close ...more
By Waincott Resident (42), Wainscott on Sep 10, 10 12:31 PM
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By Trish (91), Sag Harbor on Sep 10, 10 12:58 PM
How much is the budget for the airport (including repairs) and how much comes from the FAA? It's hard to understand this story and the passions it elicits without any idea of what the bill is for running the airport independently. Could Katy Gurley or her editor please post that information on these blogs or append to online article?
By hellolotte (5), Sag Harbor on Sep 10, 10 1:21 PM
My understanding is the annual budget is about 3mil. for saleries, normal maintainance, utilities, insurance, and anything else incured by a "business". Even though there is an income any loss is covered by the tax payer. The FAA has monies avaliable for nearly anything except operating expense. So when the decision was made to accomadate greater intensity of use it was discovered the airport needed to be upgraded. The town board at that time couldn't politically justify burdening the tax payer ...more
By facts man (148), east hampton on Sep 10, 10 2:43 PM
Thanks for the data! My understanding is the airport is cash positive in it's operation. The serious deficiency in what the Board HAS APPROVED is that they ignored ALL of the suggestions of their own noise abatement committee. I believe that we are doomed to ever increasing helicopter, jet and plane noise. So sad the such a small Board ( 3 people present at voting) might destroy the tranquility of the East End for the next 20 years. Equally sad is the complacency of Southampton Town and it's Supervisor ...more
By SagHarborBob (91), Sag Harbor on Sep 10, 10 3:59 PM
Thank you kindly for the info.
By hellolotte (5), Sag Harbor on Sep 10, 10 5:53 PM
I'd give anything to live in East Hampton. The ocean, the beaches, the weather..etc.
Why worry about a little airport noise. You should learn to fly. It's fun and then you might appreciate the aircraft noise more.
By ross (2), Shelter Island on Sep 10, 10 3:30 PM
Ross - count your blessings that you don't live under the active flyway of the commercial helicopters! You are indeed lucky; but if the FAA does give the requested millions to the EH Airport, perhaps the route will be varied to include a path over your house. We are ALL going to be impacted even more than now. It is not a little noise - it's a horrible blade hammering at all hours of the day and night. I live a full 4.5 miles from the airport; and yes, years ago it was "a little airport noise" ...more
By SagHarborBob (91), Sag Harbor on Sep 10, 10 3:52 PM
Forget Bishop and Schumer as part of the solution, they and their donors are ON those helicopters. When the old $$ talks adage doesn't fit any longer, the helicopters will be moved. Until then, $$ talks, thus, you and your neighbors in your back yard will not.
By Sparkibew (28), southampton on Sep 12, 10 8:13 AM
Judy Hope and Tom Twoomey giving three Republicans a standing ovation for the Town airport master plan. Remarkable.
By mrmako61 (148), southampton on Sep 13, 10 6:33 PM
Yeah Hope and her husband doing what they did is remarkable. It seems even heros and "nobility" succomb to selfishness. I guess there realy isn"t any hope left in this town. Fact
By facts man (148), east hampton on Sep 14, 10 2:53 PM
Wow,Ross, thanks for the suggestion we learn to fly a plane. Then we can fly over YOUR house at all hours of the day and night.
Why don't you come stay in Sag Harbor over a summer weekend and hear our
"little noise problem"?
And Dayo, would you by any chance be a PILOT??

By lovesag (17), Sag Harbor on Sep 15, 10 3:29 PM
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