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Mar 20, 2018 4:54 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

UPDATE: East Quogue $8.4 Million Bond Vote Passes Wednesday

An East Quogue resident votes
Mar 22, 2018 9:50 AM

UPDATE: Wednesday, 9:30 p.m.

The East Quogue $8.4 million bond passed with an overwhelming vote of 381 to 57, according to Superintendent Robert Long.

He added that the board of education was grateful for the community's support, noting that construction is planned to start during the summer of 2019.

"We're excited for the future and to address these needed improvements for our district," Mr. Long said.

ORIGINAL STORY

Wednesday’s impending nor’easter, which could dump 7 to 11 inches of snow on the East End, will not impact the East Quogue Elementary School $8.4 million bond vote, which if approved, will fund an assortment of upgrades to the Central Avenue school.

East Quogue residents are still expected to cast their votes between 7 a.m. and 9 p.m. on Wednesday in the Central Avenue school gymnasium, according to a districtwide announcement by Superintendent Robert Long on Tuesday.

Mr. Long wrote that if the district were to postpone the vote because of the storm, it could in turn cost the district approximately $20,000 in expedited review costs and could push the construction date past the summer 2019 anticipated start date.

“The district would not be able to hold a rescheduled vote until much later in the school year,” Mr. Long wrote. “We would have to start our planning and legal process all over again.”

Board of Education President Chris Hudson will announce the results of the vote following Wednesday’s board meeting, which begins at 7 p.m. in the school cafetorium.

The 20-year bond calls for the replacement of the school’s 68-year-old portable trailer with a permanent structure, work that is expected to cost around $5 million and account for almost 60 percent of the entire bond. Other upgrades include installing a security vestibule in the main lobby, repaving the parking lot, and renovating classrooms, bathrooms and the gymnasium.

Bruce Singer, East Quogue’s business administrator, has said that the work can be completed without raising taxes because the district expects to retire a $6.9 million bond in December 2018 that was used to construct the north wing of the school in 1999. The district’s current tax rate of $11.50 per $1,000 of assessed value will remain the same.

John Grillo, the architect for the project and owner of John A. Grillo Architects in Port Jefferson, has repeatedly said that the average lifespan for such a portable is 10 to 20 years.

If approved, the work is expected to start in the 2020-21 school year and will take roughly 14 months to complete, according to Mr. Grillo.

Officials would bring in another trailer—though this one would be on-site only for the anticipated 14 months of construction—which would house the three displaced classrooms and most of the district’s administrative offices until the new addition is finished, according to Mr. Long.

East Quogue officials recently hosted a pair of school tours allowing residents to view the school’s needs firsthand. Mr. Long said last week that those who took the tours said they were pleased with the district’s vision.

If the bond fails, the board reserves the option of putting it up a second time, though that must be done within 90 days of the initial rejection, according to Mr. Grillo. Also, the plans cannot be altered.

Mr. Hudson said he and his fellow board members are eager to hear from the community. He added that they have not yet decided if they would put up the bond for a second vote should it fail on Wednesday.

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I can only hope that those who brave the weather to vote YES for this project, will also vote YES, when it comes time to vote on bringing back our buses.
By Michael Tessitore (74), East Quogue, New York on Mar 20, 18 7:18 PM
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If I can safely drive I Will vote YES!
By greeneyedlady (55), East Quogue on Mar 21, 18 8:29 AM
As per a SHP article in December this districts School Fund Balance is 9x the State requirement at $2.9 mil. Why would anyone approve a $8.4 mil bond when it could be $2.9 mil less. You East Quogue people LOVE to increase your taxes.
By realistic (465), westhampton on Mar 21, 18 7:03 PM
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The East Quogue district was approximately 3 times over the state recommended excess balance amount, not 9 times (that was our neighboring district Quogue). While the same principle does still apply about East Quogue apparently holding too much, this is unfortunately an example of how people can quickly and easily become misinformed when they read wildly inaccurate numbers being thrown around.
By gquogue (7), East Quogue on Mar 21, 18 8:34 PM
You are correct and I stand corrected. Its was Quogue who's reserve balance amount violated State Laws at 9x. And you are correct in that East Quogue is 3x limit which also violate state laws. Still the question is why would you fund a bond at $8.4 mil when it could be $2.9 mil less. Doesn't make financial sense. Do you understand you will be paying substantial interest on a bond for 20 years? Your taxes will continue to rise and all studies show when taxes rise the home values decrease. Anyway ...more
By realistic (465), westhampton on Mar 21, 18 9:08 PM
We do not have $2.9mm extra, as that would leave us with zero. Apparently the appropriate level of extra reserve $ for our district size is about $1mm, so one could make the argument that we have $1.9mm "extra" which could instead be directly applied to this project and reduce the bond. But let's please not continue to rush out numbers that are not accurate by a wide margin. There are numerous other major factors that go into considering a bond like this for EQ, and thankfully it looks like the ...more
By gquogue (7), East Quogue on Mar 21, 18 10:44 PM
We do not have $2.9mm extra, as that would leave us with zero. Apparently the appropriate level of extra reserve $ for our district size is about $1mm, so one could make the argument that we have $1.9mm "extra" which could instead be directly applied to this project and reduce the bond. But let's please not continue to rush out numbers that are not accurate by a wide margin. There are numerous other major factors that go into considering a bond like this for EQ, and thankfully it looks like the ...more
By gquogue (7), East Quogue on Mar 21, 18 10:44 PM
Sorry GQuogue- you EQ taxpayers have been duped. The fact you even have 3x State Limit means you have been overtaxing your people and overstating your expenses to build those reserves. I mean really- even the State has reprimanded you yet you do nothing and continue to fleece your taxpayers. May be you just don't get the math and the budgets or possibly you are part of the problem by bating and switching your taxpayers. Anyway see the comment below from Histerical- she was complaining about loosing ...more
By realistic (465), westhampton on Mar 22, 18 8:41 AM
OK - so as I think of this its really bothering me. Yes, blast me for not living in your community. But think of it. You have money sitting in an account ($2.9 mil) doing nothing. Earning little to no interest. Face it, you have been over taxed. Even the State Comptrollers office is reprimanding you for excessive cash balances yet you are taking out a loan for decades at higher interest to pay off the school construction. Im not saying the construction is not needed. But really why would you pay ...more
By realistic (465), westhampton on Mar 21, 18 7:38 PM
M2:

2018-03-05: 13,905.2 billion dollars
Updated: Mar 15, 2018

January 9, 1995
3.489 billion dollars



By Mr. Z (11552), North Sea on Mar 21, 18 7:46 PM
Most important to us as Senior lifetime residences is the safety of all children rather than the almighty $$$$$$$.Carol Hulse Combes
By Histerical (20), East Quogue on Mar 22, 18 7:39 AM
Safety First yes. Not sure how funding a new building has to do with that. Anyway Histerical you wrote a blog comment on 27east complaining about having to pay $74 more in taxes as a result of loosing part of a Star credit in 2014. Remember the "get ready for the bumpy ride" comment you wrote? Anyway like I said, not my tax bill, its yours. I like to here all sides. Betcha the interest you will be paying will far surpass that $74 and its for the next 20 years. Look at the Fed yesterday. Interest ...more
By realistic (465), westhampton on Mar 22, 18 7:52 AM
Realistic...you should do more research before you post. A good chunk of that money is going towards a new security booth and video surveillance. Safety is ALWAYS first...especially in these affluent neighborhoods. The big cities across America don't seem to have this mass shooting problem. Sure, here and there you get a homicide but it's usually caused between a two or three party rift. Take a look at the mass shootings. Most, if not all, are in affluent suburbs. And why would anyone in the Quogue ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (588), Riverhead on Mar 22, 18 10:40 PM
You're wrong. Most "mass shootings", defined now as two or more people shot in an incident, happen in urban areas. Chicago, Atlanta, Detroit, Los Angeles.
By MoronEliminator (214), Montauk on Mar 23, 18 4:29 PM
Not getting into semantics with you. You know what I mean by "mass shootings" . I mean several victims. Columbine, Parkland, etc. Not quite the city.
By DiseaseDiocese (588), Riverhead on Mar 23, 18 5:16 PM
And lets not forget West Nickel Mines, Marysville Pilchuck High School...and Sandy Hook. Maybe not affluent, sans Sandy Hook...but definitely not the city.
By DiseaseDiocese (588), Riverhead on Mar 23, 18 5:22 PM
Try this on for size. From Wiki:
A mass shooting is an incident involving MULTIPLE victims of firearms-related violence. The United States' Congressional Research Service acknowledges that there is not a broadly accepted definition, and defines a "public mass shooting" as one in which FOUR OR MORE selected indiscriminately, not including the perpetrator, are killed, echoing the FBI definition of the term "mass murder". However, according to the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (588), Riverhead on Mar 24, 18 1:43 AM
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