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May 30, 2018 12:30 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

East Quogue Residents Begin Petitioning Process In Their Journey To Incorporation

Main Street in East Quogue.
Jun 6, 2018 11:07 AM

A group of East Quogue residents is moving forward with a push to incorporate the hamlet as a village.

The East Quogue Village Exploratory Committee is creating a petition subcommittee to take the first major step toward becoming an incorporated village: gathering signatures.

In order to become a village, the committee would have to file a petition with the Southampton Town supervisor that would include the signatures of at least 20 percent of registered voters in the proposed village. The subcommittee would be in charge of going door to door and helping to organize events in the hamlet to gather the necessary signatures.

An informational meeting was held by the exploratory committee—led by East Quogue residents David Celi and Karen Kooi—on May 28 to lay out its plans for the village to the rest of the community. More information can be found on the group’s website, eqvillageexploratorycommittee.com.

Once the exploratory committee secures enough signatures, the petition can be filed with the town supervisor’s office, where the signatures would be validated. Next, the supervisor would hold public hearings on the effort. If the supervisor then determines the petition to be sufficient, a public referendum would be held in the proposed village. If that vote passes, the village would be incorporated.

The committee began to form in the fall, around the same time it was becoming evident that the golf course proposal known as The Hills at Southampton wasn’t going to garner enough support from the Town Board. Several members of the committee have connections to the project or have spoken in favor of it publicly.

The developer behind the project, Discovery Land Company, was seeking approval for a special change of zone called a planned development district, or PDD, to build 118 single-family homes and an 18-hole golf course along Spinney Road in East Quogue.

If East Quogue incorporates, land-use decisions would fall mainly to the residents of the new village. The village would also have the ability to create a handful of boards to make decisions on behalf of the residents—including a village board, planning board, zoning board, and a code enforcement department—but would still tap into the town for other services, such as the police, parks and highway departments.

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The article states the petitions need to be signed by "at least 20 percent of the homeowners in the proposed village." Is this correct? Must one actually own a home to have their vote counted? What constitutes "a home?" Is owning a house sufficient? Must one live in the house? Is owning vacant property sufficient to meet the test? What about renters and other residents? Must they be registered voters? Are there age restrictions on who may sign?

Accuracy is important!
By VOS (1116), WHB on May 30, 18 3:09 PM
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"Several members of the committee have connection to the [Hills] project."

That says it right there. Self-serving interests. What a shame. I will not be endorsing the possible incorporation.
By 2329702 (23), East Quogue on May 31, 18 8:41 AM
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Me, neither!!!
By Miss K. (100), East Quogue on Jun 2, 18 6:10 PM
Actually, that says nothing, right there.

Until any "connection" is explained and examined for a conflict of interest no conclusions can be drawn. Is a member of the Fire Department seen to have a "connection" because the fire department stood to get a few benefits from the PDD? Does a parent of a student in EQ have a "connection" because the school would benefit? Is someone who simply expressed an opinion of the project said to have a "connection?" Is anyone who would benefit from ...more
By VOS (1116), WHB on Jun 2, 18 11:45 PM
It's not my place or my desire to save pro-Hills/Lewis Road people from trouble or disappointment, but, assuming as I do that the incorporation project is aimed at the one goal of making that development happen, then you're barking up the wrong tree, folks. There's no way a putative Village of East Quogue can approve this project, which has an effect far beyond its own borders, even far beyond Southampton Town's borders, without attracting fatally negative input from the town, county, state and ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1868), Quiogue on May 31, 18 11:11 AM
Sounds like Turkey Bridge is running scared...and ignoring state laws that delineate what an incorporated village has the power to accomplish.

"I'm Turkey, I've been in politics for decades, trust me." Hah!
By VOS (1116), WHB on May 31, 18 3:17 PM
We should not forget that VOS works for DLC and inserts talking points here.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (568), southampton on May 31, 18 4:27 PM
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Go ahead, VOS, go the whole nine yards. Do the whole bit, with the expense and effort of forming an incorporated village, and then try to get this thing done with just the village's OK. Try that, and let us know how you make out.

You know and I know it can't happen that way, regardless of what you say about "state laws." You're trying to twist the law to reach an illogical and impractical result. If anyone's "running scared" here, it's not me. I repeat, you're conning these people, ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1868), Quiogue on May 31, 18 8:37 PM
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This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By VOS (1116), WHB on Jun 1, 18 2:26 AM
Nothing in the post above was a duplicate of any other post. Every bit of it was directly related to the topic in this article. And no part of it was inappropriate unless defending one's integrity from those who have none can be deemed inappropriate.
By VOS (1116), WHB on Jun 1, 18 7:05 AM
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By LovinLife (57), East Quogue on Jun 2, 18 9:31 PM
Kooi bad news
By LovinLife (57), East Quogue on Jun 2, 18 9:31 PM
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When is this site going to make these cowards post comments using their real names?
"Kooi bad news" Really??? Would you post that if you weren't hiding behind an alias?
By cmac (145), East Quogue on Jun 5, 18 9:43 AM
Why is it cowardly to state that this vague, ill thought and (potentially) DLC inspired plan is bad news?


By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (568), southampton on Jun 5, 18 10:01 AM
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It is cowardly to personally attack someone while hiding behind an alias.
As for your annonymous opinion "that this vague, ill thought and (potentially) DLC inspired plan is bad news" it is just that, an opinion, and even though it is ill-contrived you are entitled to have it.
For those wanting to listen to the facts and form their own opinion please attend the next informational meeting on June 27th at 7PM at the EQ School.
By cmac (145), East Quogue on Jun 5, 18 3:14 PM
There's no personal attacks here. For some who have looked at what this group has presented and attended a meeting it's baffling to see the press covering this without more scrutiny.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (568), southampton on Jun 6, 18 9:59 AM
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I would invite everyone in EQ to attend the next informational meeting at the EQ school and learn the facts behind the proposal, before stating an opinion or passing judgement on the committee's organizers. This kind of forum with the accompanying comments can be divisive.Come to a meeting and bring your comments and concerns. Let's have an open dialog and educate ourselves about the facts. Knowledge is power. That would benefit everyone in EQ. This is Cathy Wagner.
By hannahroses (2), East Quogue on Jun 7, 18 1:44 PM
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Have been to a meeting.
The issue is that this group and movement was started in bad faith, many EQ residents know this and it's put a bad taste in our mouths.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (568), southampton on Jun 8, 18 9:59 AM
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Bad faith? Please explain.
By VOS (1116), WHB on Jun 10, 18 12:12 AM
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Pleeeease! The me VOS that there is not a hidden agenda! The ONLY REASON that this petition was started is an attempt to breath life back into the Hills golf course development. To suggest anything else is lying to the community.
And frankly our neighbors who are behind this effort are not acting in good faith unless they admit this. Yes, this effort was certainly started in bad faith.
By fritzdaddy (29), southampton on Jun 11, 18 10:17 AM
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Nothing involving bad faith here at all. The leaders of the movement have been open that there were many reasons for seeking to incorporate; only the brain dead would not recognize that the treatment of the Hills PDD and the subsequent loss of millions of dollars in benefits to the community and the denial of making East Quogue a better place was among them. It has been made very clear that this is a matter of home rule and the desire to have more control over one's local environment.

Nothing ...more
By VOS (1116), WHB on Jun 11, 18 2:13 PM
*an estimated count of 80%+ of this businesses customers, not 80% of the residents of east quogue. (we know that 100% of residents do not shop at any business, the highest % of residents would probably visit a gas station).
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (568), southampton on Jun 12, 18 10:46 AM
If zoning were not in the mix. what other benefits are there to incorporating?
By Taz (488), East Quogue on Jun 12, 18 10:53 AM
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Anybody there??????
By Taz (488), East Quogue on Jun 13, 18 9:54 AM
Still waiting.......
By Taz (488), East Quogue on Jun 13, 18 1:51 PM
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Doubtful you will get an answer.
By 2329702 (23), East Quogue on Jun 13, 18 3:22 PM
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3 days later and still waiting.....
By Taz (488), East Quogue on Jun 15, 18 10:24 AM
I guess the people in charge don't think your queries (or you) are as important as you think they (or you) are; especially since they were explained in the first article about the proposal.
By VOS (1116), WHB on Jun 16, 18 9:54 PM
It would be useful if the committee would share the sources of funds used to create a website, produce informative material, retain legal services, etc. For the sake of transparency, show us where the money comes from in a way that is traceable.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (568), southampton on Jun 21, 18 7:27 PM