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Aug 21, 2012 6:25 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

Helicopter Route Change On The Table Again

Aug 21, 2012 6:38 PM

A debate over who changed the route for helicopters using East Hampton Airport continued this week and culminated with the Town Board’s top two Republicans suggesting the town could sell the facility if it does not have any control over setting those routes.

The route was changed last month. Helicopters are now directed to fly over homes in Southampton Town instead of Northwest Woods. The move has angered residents from parts of Noyac, Sag Harbor, North Sea and Bridgehampton, who last week formed a group opposing the change.

Supervisor Bill Wilkinson and Councilwoman Theresa Quigley, among other residents, have claimed Councilman Dominick Stanzione authorized the route change, and that it should have been brought before the Town Board. Mr. Stanzione reiterated that it wasn’t his decision, but that he was aware of the change and should have consulted members of the Town Board about it. “My concern about that was politicizing the route selection and making it us against them, and not having it based against professional standards,” Mr. Stanzione said.

Councilman Peter Van Scoyoc said Mr. Stanzione’s comment about politicizing of routes was “a little unsettling.” He pointed out that East Hampton Airport’s air traffic control tower doesn’t have any authority beyond a 4.8-mile radius of the airport.

The discussion touched on different issues, and board members broached subjects like the authority of the air traffic controllers, the Federal Aviation Administration and what kind of control it has in selecting the route and the town’s level of liability at the airport should something catastrophic happen.

At the end of the discussion, board members agreed that a meeting with the air traffic controllers and the Town Board on the subject of routes should take place, although it did not set a date to do so.

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And yet another last-minute clarification by Maestro Stanzione, as the final movement of "Stanzione's Folly" enters the Scherzo Movement.

The final throes of Hubris playing out are often unsettling to witness.
By Nero (234), Sag Harbor on Aug 21, 12 6:52 PM
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No there's a solution: Since we don't have any control, lets give up all control...One for the cuckoo bin..
By V.Tomanoku (622), southampton on Aug 21, 12 7:08 PM
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Flying over the peoples "homes" who own/are able to own helicopters or travel to the East End in them seems to make more sense than flying over the homes of people who never would...
By Mr. Z (9512), North Sea on Aug 21, 12 7:20 PM
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Related article just out, but link is not posted above yet:

http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/East-End/435663/New-East-Hampton-Airport-Helicopter-Route-Gives-Rise-To-A-New-Anti-Noise-Group-and-A-Rally

By PBR (4816), Southampton on Aug 21, 12 7:43 PM
I say bring them in from over the ocean. Oh wait, that's where the rich people aka large political contributors live
By itsamazing (207), Southampton on Aug 21, 12 9:02 PM
Selling it is on the table. Either solve this mess by Labor Day, or shut the airport down for good, and sell the land.
By SagHarborBob (91), Life is Good on Aug 21, 12 9:58 PM
There have been many solutions to this problem in the past!!! However, we
are still at ground zero!!!! As the population increases more will come!!! This
past weekend was very noisy -- helicopters, private planes flew overhead
every 14 minutes!!!! Where are our leaders with this dangerous situation!???
By East Ender (64), Southampton on Aug 22, 12 3:37 AM
Decades of dissent and nothing done. Either fix the problem or end the problem. No more delay tactics. No more asking for federal handouts,that will defintely make it worse. Do it while there is some chance to have a reasonable airport facility remain open as a good neighbor and for local enthusiasts to enjoy. No more charters, no more helicopters. It is a small airport not a money making enterprise for a few. Further delay and civil disturbances will close the airport for good.
By Trish (89), Sag Harbor on Aug 22, 12 5:23 AM
Mr Stanziones route change has ruined the quiet use and enjoyment of more than a few residents. Peple who do not live in East Hampton and arent even close to the airport! How about hundreds of homes and thousands of people! OUTRAGEOUS!!! The airport is EAST HAMPTON, NOT SOUTHAMPTON. The route should be North is: Wainscott, The Golf Course and out to sea to PLum Island then down the sound. The South Route, Georgica Pond, Atalntic Ocean. Both over East Hampton its your airport!!! These are the only ...more
By North Sea Citizen (454), North Sea on Aug 22, 12 6:55 AM
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No, not over the golf course, there are homes each side and many familes are impacted. They fly left and right of the lines, all over the place. Routes should be Only over the water as much as possible, only solution acceptable. That means around Orient Point, then the southern route approach into EH Airport. It is their noise, let them deal with it. Georgica route is only 2.7 miles over land, the Jessups route, deemed not safe by the air traffic controllers, is the longest over land (and over ...more
By Trish (89), Sag Harbor on Aug 22, 12 9:06 AM
The simple solution is to take the ocean/Goergica route. Safest and impacts (noise) the fewest people, period. Why is this so complicated?
By zaz (194), East Hampton on Aug 22, 12 9:13 AM
Why is this so complicated? What's next, making a law that birds are crapping from the sky and should redirect there flight plan.
By FLRalph (9), Flanders on Aug 22, 12 3:37 PM
Stanzione thinks he is going to get elected again????
By disappointed (86), wainscott on Aug 22, 12 4:41 PM
Just curious if any of you have experience with air traffic control. I hate the sound of low-flying jets and copters over my house as much as anyone, but maybe the ATC is more complex than we're giving it credit for. That said - I live about 6 miles west of the airport, and I've had planes flying so low over my house that it's woken me up from a dead sleep. Terrible.
By Brian Bailey (36), Southampton on Aug 22, 12 4:53 PM
Apparently the men in the control tower do not even have radar -- they use binoculars to direct the air traffic. Maybe the new binoculars are more "complex?"

IMO you are reading a lot into this so-called ATC "job." It doesn't get much simpler than this!
By PBR (4816), Southampton on Aug 22, 12 6:28 PM
Any Follow up on the Bridgehampton meeting? Did 27east cover it?
By Toma Noku (582), uptown on Aug 25, 12 9:26 AM
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