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Sep 3, 2015 11:53 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Lee Zeldin Announces Raffle For Constituents To See Pope

Sep 7, 2015 2:04 PM

Constituents of U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin will have a chance to win two tickets to the Capitol Building’s West Lawn during Pope Francis’s visit there later this month.

Mr. Zeldin, who represents the East End, kicked off a free raffle on Thursday. Raffle winners will be able to witness Pope Francis’s address to a joint session of Congress on September 24.

The tickets will allow winners to be at the West Lawn in time for the Pope’s arrival at 10:30 a.m.—although a glimpse of Pope Francis is not guaranteed.

Constituents can sign up online for the raffle at https://zeldin.house.gov/pope. They will be selected at random and the lottery will close at 5 p.m. on Monday, September 14.

For further information or questions, contact Mr. Zeldin’s Long Island office at (631) 289-1097.

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I wonder how much Bishop would have sold his for.
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Sep 3, 15 3:23 PM
That's easy. Highest bidder.
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Sep 3, 15 3:43 PM
POLL: TRUMP NEW HIGH, CARSON SURGE...

Donald Trump has reached a new high in the race for the Republican presidential nomination. According to a Monmouth University survey released on Thursday, Trump has broken into the 30s

JEB SNOOZE: Woman nods off during speech...
Trump signs GOP 'loyalty pledge'...

By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 3, 15 3:58 PM
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Those of us who have been watching politics for the last quarter of a century have asked this question time and again, as the Clintons wriggled out of a dozen different kinds of shady behavior. And each time we think something’s finally going to take them down, they skate. It’s kind of like being a Cubs fan: maybe next year.

But there are five reasons why Hillary Clinton’s e-mail scandal could finally be the one.

By Robert Tracinski
The Federalist
By They call me (2756), southampton on Sep 3, 15 4:12 PM
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MSNBC Breaks News That Clinton Staffer Will Plead The Fifth On Email Case
By 27dan (2774), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 3, 15 4:25 PM
Actually it's a former staffer and they are pleading the fifth for the Republican Benghazi witch hunt.
By bird (817), Sag Harbor on Sep 4, 15 7:29 PM
NBC News. Ex-Hillary Clinton Staffer Who Set Up Email Server Plans to Plead the Fifth
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Sep 4, 15 8:37 PM
...before the Republican Benghazi Witch Hunt Commitee.
By bird (817), Sag Harbor on Sep 4, 15 8:51 PM
They are so evasive and they aren't even good at it. Hillary with her "what...wipe like with a cloth?" and this joker Brian Fallon with "I don't know what wiped means".

Then he proceeds to lie and say that they provided all the emails in electronic form - a bald face lie since .PDF isn't the same as having the source data. They just keep digging and looking deceitful. It's time for Hillary and her whole cabal of liars and spinners to step down... Its becoming sad now
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 3, 15 7:07 PM
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FeelTheBern
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 3, 15 10:42 PM
sure...
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 3, 15 11:40 PM
America’s “big problem,” declared Donald Trump “is being politically correct.”

Many Americans first heard about “political correctness” back in 1990 from Newsweek’s iconic “THOUGHT POLICE” issue.

Newsweek’s astonishingly candid cover story accurately described the “PC” phenomenon – then blossoming on college campuses nationwide – as “Marxist” and “totalitarian” in ...more
Sep 3, 15 11:47 PM appended by They call me
Political Correctness.... Your Fired! Say hello to Phil for us.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Sep 3, 15 11:47 PM
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Lol. When Nathenyahu came, Zeldin came.

The Pope comes, he's too busy, raffle those tickets off, who cares.
By Brandon Quinn (189), Hampton Bays on Sep 4, 15 11:23 AM
Did you miss the part about the "September 24 Pope Francis' address to a joint session of Congress?" These are West Lawn tickets.
By Po Boy (4904), Water Mill on Sep 4, 15 12:21 PM
Just stop already ....
By Biba (557), East Hampton on Sep 7, 15 10:03 AM
A raffle to see the Pope.......what would Jesus say about gambling??????

I would have preferred BINGO.......
By shadow captain (34), sag harbor on Sep 4, 15 1:25 PM
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GALLUP: HILLARY CLINTON’S FAVORABILITY AT ALL-TIME LOW

Hillary Clinton has the lowest favorability rating she has ever had since she stepped onto the national stage in 1992.
By 27dan (2774), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 4, 15 5:57 PM

POLL: TRUMP BEATS HILLARY HEAD TO HEAD...
BALZ: BushClinton beware; something is stirring...
Sep 5, 15 5:00 PM appended by 27dan
What Hillary can learn from Donald New Poll: Trump beats Hillary head-to-head Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump leads Democrat Hillary Clinton head-to-head, according to a new poll released Friday. The poll by SurveyUSA finds that matched up directly, Trump garners 45 percent to Clinton’s 40 percent. In other head-to-head matchups, Trump beats out Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) by 44 percent to 40 percent; Vice President Joe Biden by 44 percent to 42 percent; and former Vice President Al Gore by 44 percent to 41 percent. Trump’s surge past Clinton marks a dramatic trend in the polls. Trump has seen his campaign’s popularity surge through the summer while Clinton’s has struggled with voter concerns over her transparency and trustworthiness. The poll also found the majority of respondents believe Trump will be the Republican nominee
By 27dan (2774), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 5, 15 5:00 PM
He is wiping out the whole field on both sides, Go Donald
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 5, 15 5:10 PM
Wiping the field ?

What like with a cloth...
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 5, 15 5:15 PM
Donald Trump is so smart that he used "rockin in the free world" by Neil Young for one of his campaign rally songs. The song is the complete antithesis of what Trump represents.

It was about as brilliant as Paul Ryan and his use of Rage Against the Machine's song library. Neil Young ripped Trump a new one just as well as Tom Morello ripped Paul Ryan a new one, and deservedly so. If Trump is elected president it will only put the final nail in the coffin as to proof of how dumb this country ...more
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 5, 15 5:26 PM
FYI:

Michael Reagan Lowers the Boom on Donald Trump for Name-Dropping His Dad to Explain Flip-Flops

Written By: Matthew K. Burke


Real Estate magnate, reality TV star and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has often used the name of iconic conservative Ronald Reagan to explain away his past — some fairly recent — far left positions on a variety of different issues, saying that even Reagan used to be a Democrat.

“He was like this ...more
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 5, 15 11:18 PM
Trump is not PC and is no politician, seems as if that is what a lot of Americans want after 7 years of the Obama Regime and all the uber liberal excrement dumped on our great nation.
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 6, 15 7:55 AM
Donald Trump is worthy of one thing the founders of this country found deplorable: inherited wealth.

"A power to dispose of estates for ever is manifestly absurd. The earth and the fulness of it belongs to every generation, and the preceding one can have no right to bind it up from posterity. Such extension of property is quite unnatural."

~ Thomas Jefferson
Sep 6, 15 9:36 AM appended by Mr. Z
"A State divided into a small number of rich and a large number of poor will always develop a government manipulated by the rich to protect the amenities represented by their property. ~ Harold Laski, British political theorist (1893-1950)
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 6, 15 9:36 AM
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He is rich, and an uber example of what used to be called the American dream.

Mr Z and Bernie Sanders would be happier if everyone was equally miserable.

No thanks I was born in a country like that and it sucks the life out of you.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 6, 15 11:53 AM
No, we wouldn't. Fools who think like you have neutered the meaning of the "American Dream". Aristocracy and elitism have nothing to do with the dream that was "America".

Ignorance of the fact this country has become that which it railed against is not only your failing, but the failing of too many.
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 6, 15 12:18 PM
Donald Trump has a clear path to the White House, according to a shocking new poll from SurveyUSA.

Trump beats Hillary Clinton 45 percent to 40 percent, with 16 percent of voters undecided.

He wins a huge share of the Democrats’ non-white base — 25 percent of African Americans, 31 percent of Hispanics and 41 percent of the relatively small Asian vote.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Sep 6, 15 12:19 PM
Food for thought, especially for all those who love to think they know what Marxism is. Ignorance is not blissful for the rest of us...

“If there was one thing the Revolutionary generation agreed on — and those guys who dress up like them at Tea Party conventions most definitely do not — it was the incompatibility of democracy and inherited wealth.

With Thomas Jefferson taking the lead in the Virginia legislature in 1777, every Revolutionary state government ...more
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 6, 15 12:34 PM
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I swear I will buy you a ticket to Denmark tomorrow if you have the courage to live out your fantasy!

*** Real Offer ***
Sep 6, 15 2:55 PM appended by They call me
Wow Z ... I will Kick in $ 2,500 cash in relocation money ( Also For Real ) If you promise to be our foreign corespondent ... It could be quiet an experiment watching your transition and hearing in your own words how you feel about living in such a socialist place from Month to Month. What do you say ?
By They call me (2756), southampton on Sep 6, 15 2:55 PM
I'll kick into that as well.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Sep 7, 15 5:09 AM
On 2nd thought I have to agree with 27 Dan. I wouldn't give you a dime.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Sep 7, 15 5:17 AM
Wow Z ... I will Kick in $ 2,500 cash in relocation money ( Also For Real )

If you promise to be our foreign corespondent ... It could be quiet an experiment watching your transition and hearing in your own words how you feel about living in such a socialist place from Month to Month.

What do you say ?
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 6, 15 3:08 PM
I like the way this is shaping up,

What do you say Mr. Z?

A free Ticket, Now with Joe's generous offer you have spending money and the woman are so hot in Denmark !

I really cant afford it but I want in and will kick in a $ 500 bonus if you bring Philth with you !
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 6, 15 3:23 PM
lol,

You wont get a penny from me,

Earn your own $ for vacation because you will never stay in such a place when you realize what it is really like to live in

I must admit i do like the part about bringing Phil with you. I think you guys would have a swell time.
By 27dan (2774), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 6, 15 3:51 PM
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Your anti capitalism, anti wealthy class envy schtick is old Komrade Z. So what if some have inherited considerable wealth, good for them! Jealousy is a pathetic emotion.
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 6, 15 4:38 PM
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It's not jealousy. The bull**** you pathetically embody apparently knows no bounds. All your touting of the "free market", states rights, and Adam Smith over the years, yet you ignore one of the basic founding tenets of this Republic, and call it "jealousy".

I don't think there's really a single word which can encompass your nature. But one could probably start with charlatan, or fraud...
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 6, 15 8:28 PM
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And there's your final proof. The most pseudo-patriotic lot you will find in this locale.

Touting America and a "dream", completely ignorant of it's history, what it began as, and blindly following the corruption it has become, blissfully throwing pejoratives about as if they know the meaning of the words.

It would be funny, were it not so pathetic.
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 6, 15 8:21 PM
to marlinspike:

Quote:

"I'll pay for your one way ticket to Moscow."
-----------------------------------

Better clear that with your parents first.

Sep 7, 15 9:28 AM appended by highhatsize
To They call me & 27dan (infra): First, thank you for reposting my old message, every word of which is still incontrovertibly true, although Right-Wing washerwomen have since embellished their ignorant grousing by claiming that Hillary is guilty of sending RETROACTIVELY classified emails. (Shame on her for not being clairvoyant!) 27dan, I realize that onanism is more socially acceptable these days but it is still upsetting to some folks to see it practiced in public. Please exercise discretion.
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Sep 7, 15 9:28 AM
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Some of the reasons HHS has not been around to much lately....

Oh my goodness! Do you mean to say that you think that Hillary Clinton is sneaky!? And her being a politician and all. What has happened to our standards? I can see why this story made page 1.

Moreover, Hillary has offered to make ALL her emails public.

Finally, your allegation that she released "classified information" is completely unsubstantiated. It's a fiction that you manufactured to provide SOME gravitas ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Sep 7, 15 10:53 AM
to High Hat size,
where will Bill, Hillary and possibly Huma flee to when the guys carrying guns and badges get close? Has to be somewhere with modern facilities, including banks, but with no extradition treaty...

and Antony of coarse will need an Internet connection....
By 27dan (2774), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 7, 15 12:41 PM
Bernie Sanders, is a puppet to cover the entrance of a younger socialist into the WH.... like Joaquin Castro in as VP at the last minute.

Introducing the Castro twins at the 2012 DNC was not an accident....they have been "brought along" exactly the same path as Obama....they just need a way to sneak them into the WH.

The Progressives are working out a sneaky move to take over....using the Dem party.

This is a Soros move.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 7, 15 1:09 PM
Are you really stupid enough to think I would move to a country with a state sanctioned Lutheran religion, and a standing (though mostly impotent) monarchy?

You must be dumber than a stick.
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 7, 15 10:40 PM
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To High Hat

Bernie Sanders Leads Hillary Clinton by 9 in New Hampshire, Gains in Iowa: Poll
By Erin 27 E (1239), hampton bays on Sep 7, 15 1:29 AM
Class envy, pseudo intellectualism , anti business, anti capitalism and just plain jealous of those who are wealthy, both self made and those with inherited millions. Truly pathetic, I will pray for you Komrade.
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 7, 15 8:30 AM
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“To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child. For what is the worth of human life, unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors by the records of history?”

~ Marcus Tullius Cicero
Sep 7, 15 8:49 AM appended by Mr. Z
Your high rhetoric is meaningless while you ignore the founding ideals of this country. Basically, you're full of ****.
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 7, 15 8:49 AM
DOWN 9 IN NH...
POLL: TRUMP BEATS HILLARY HEAD TO HEAD...
Receives 25% of black vote...
BALZ: BushClinton beware; Something stirring...
By They call me (2756), southampton on Sep 7, 15 10:08 AM
Some people like to say of Hillary "She can't even fill a decent sized cafeteria", compared to Sanders or Trump. Maybe so. But she certainly will overflow a Lower Manhattan Courtroom on her arraignment hearing. I wish I could be there myself.
By 27dan (2774), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 7, 15 9:32 PM
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"What do you say Mr. Z?"

I say the lot of you are hypocrites who ignore the tenets of Jefferson, Hamilton, and Madison, and call basic founding principles of this country socialism while either disregarding or being ignorant regarding the lessons of the "Age of Passion". You are hypocrites who tout the "free market" while ignoring Adam Smith. When you do attempt to invoke the Constitution, you twist and pervert it as you hide behind it to suit your own agenda on a personal level, instead ...more
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 7, 15 1:43 PM
History has proven that communism and socialism fail every time.May the rich get richer and our beautiful area continue to prosper and thrive.
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 7, 15 5:32 PM
When you punish the rich everyone loses
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 7, 15 6:49 PM
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Once again you prove your ignorance. The former Yugoslavia is a prime example of successful free market socialism, and Josip Broz Tito's funeral was the largest and most widely attended in modern history up until Nelson Mandela's. As far as the former Soviet Union is concerned, internal strife and long brewing revolution were the major causes of it's downfall. It's kind of a funny historical irony that Tito was the one man Stalin could never best. You see, it's not really the system which is ...more
Sep 7, 15 10:36 PM appended by Mr. Z
And BTW, just for reference even Benjamin Franklin may be quoted as such: "no man ought to own more property than needed for his livelihood; the rest, by right, belonged to the state." As far as concentrated wealth being a threat to the Republic, Franklin considered it: "a danger to the happiness of mankind." Super sorry, but you're wrong as the day is long. What you believe is fully un-American, at least in the eyes of the men who created it.
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 7, 15 10:36 PM
Sorry Komrade Z, you just keep digging yourself deeper into a hole every time you espouse your anti capitalist feelings. The Nordic countries' citizens pay more than 50% of their income in taxes to the State in order to pay for "a degree of Socialism". Tito was a dictator. So a friendly B S right back at you!
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 8, 15 6:12 AM
Dictator or not, it makes no difference. It doesn't change the fact it was a successful social democratic state with multiple parties. He was elected "President for Life", his people loved him, and he denounced communism. He lent so much stability to the country, that it only fell apart in the latter years of the decade after his death. The Nordic social democracy is highly successful. And I quote: "fail every time". Just the facts, just the facts.

Just because you don't like that inherited ...more
Sep 8, 15 6:46 AM appended by Mr. Z
And, I am assuredly anti-crony capitalism. Hey BF, look at my thumb...
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 8, 15 6:46 AM
To sum up what we learned this weekend

Hilary is toast

Hat Head was wrong

Biden will run and win the nomination

The people still love Trump...

Z is socialist at beast and a lost cuase...
Sep 8, 15 7:12 AM appended by joe hampton
at best
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 8, 15 7:12 AM
Sunday Septrmber 6

Iowa: Tump vs Clinton NBC/Marist Trump 48 Clinton 43

Hillary Your Fired !
By They call me (2756), southampton on Sep 8, 15 7:21 AM
Well, about as socialist as the founders of this country, at best. The founding fathers did not denounce a degree of socialism. They called it good government.


“The power of all corporations ought to be limited, […] the growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses.”
~ James Madison

“As to Taxes, they are evidently inseparable from Government. It is impossible without them to pay the debts of the nation, to protect it from ...more
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 8, 15 7:57 AM
Very scary the way your mind functions did you grow up in Havana or Kiev ?
By 27dan (2774), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 8, 15 9:17 AM
Nope. Grew up in a Constitutional Republic, and respect what it's framers stood for. There were extreme views on either side of course, like Hamilton who was only kept in check by Washington. He quickly went downhill after Washington left this world. By many accounts, Hamilton was kind of bat**** crazy. Perhaps it was caused by syphilis.

You should really stop listening to the history that was made up...
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 8, 15 10:53 PM
Modern day liberalism (and establishment politics) begets modern day socialism (and establishment politics). We're a long way away from "good government."

"The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."

~ James Madison
By Po Boy (4904), Water Mill on Sep 8, 15 8:30 AM
Considering we now live in an Oligarchy, those words are rather frighteningly prophetic.
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 8, 15 10:55 PM
to bigfresh, 27dan, Undocumented Democrat & marlinspike:

Quote:

'History has proven that communism and socialism fail every time."
---------------------------------------------------------

Your epochal & determined ignorance borders on insanity. As I have pointed out twice in the past (the first time in 2013 to YOU, bigfresh & the second, quite recently to YOU, marlinspike), the Scandinavian countries are ALL democratic, ALL socialist, ALL rock-solid stable and ALL ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Sep 8, 15 9:17 AM
HHS "The Scandinavian countries are, ALL rock-solid stable and the US murder rate is 448 times higher than Norway, for instance"

The 2011 Norway attacks were two sequential terrorist attacks against the government, the civilian population, and a Workers' Youth League (AUF)-run summer camp in Norway on 22 July 2011. The attacks claimed a total of 77 lives in one afternoon.... for instance

You will ignore this factual example again, as you have ignored others in the past, because ...more
By 27dan (2774), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 8, 15 9:38 AM
point to tcm and joe as it dose seem they have shut mr hat up be using his own predictions against him ,for the time being at least mr hat must admit defeat

still watching the other battle unfold between mr z and bf. to me it seems bf has gotten mr z out of the socialist closet once again and the fact that anyone can openly admit having these anti american views, is to me amazing.
By Erin 27 E (1239), hampton bays on Sep 8, 15 9:51 AM
Nothing anti-American about it.

In fact, Thomas Paine was pretty darn American.

"Personal property is the effect of society; and it is as impossible for an individual to acquire personal property without the aid of society, as it is for him to make land originally.

Separate an individual from society, and give him an island or a continent to possess, and he cannot acquire personal property. He cannot be rich. So inseparably are the means connected with the end, in all ...more
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 8, 15 11:28 PM
Komrade Z , I find it incredible that you praise a dictator , a dictator mind you, just because he ran a " successfull " socialist country! There is no hope for one so thoroughly indoctrinated.
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 8, 15 10:34 AM
In January 1920, Tito and his wife made a long and difficult journey home to Yugoslavia where he arrived in September. Upon his return, Broz joined the Communist Party of Yugoslavia.

As the President, Tito had access to extensive (state-owned) property associated with the office, and maintained a uber lavish lifestyle.

It is true some people in his country would like those times back. People say "we just enjoyed life without much work" they never asked themselves where was all ...more
Sep 8, 15 11:34 AM appended by joe hampton
"The former Yugoslavia is a prime example of successful free market socialism, and Josip Broz Tito's funeral was the largest and most widely attended in modern history up until Nelson Mandela's" By Mr. Z (7144), North Sea on Sep 7, 15 10:36 PM
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 8, 15 11:34 AM
What you fail to grasp is that we really don't see rock solid political assassinations much anymore. Stalin sent multiple assassins to take out Tito. It was a different world, and truth be told is was frequently kill, or be killed. Apple and oranges my good man.

As far as all your Constitutional pining, I never hear any of you object to the Seventeenth Amendment, which the framers would have stood staunchly against.

Is it because you are perhaps only capable of regurgitating ...more
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 8, 15 10:46 PM
In January 1920, Tito and his wife made a long and difficult journey home to Yugoslavia where he arrived in September. Upon his return, Broz joined the Communist Party of Yugoslavia.

By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 9, 15 1:47 AM
Apparently names are all that matters to you, and not conduct. If Stalin was a communist, then Tito assuredly was a socialist. Similar to there being no justice when laws are absolute, there is no real intellect where dictatorial stances are absolute.

We could name you the smartest man on Earth, but it doesn't make it true. People have gone by misnomers throughout all of recorded history. Including the USSR. If you know anything about Marx, and you obviously know nothing except his ...more
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 9, 15 8:07 AM
Delusional is a name that comes to mind.
By Po Boy (4904), Water Mill on Sep 10, 15 8:42 PM
Jeb low energy

Joe no energy

Hillary negative energy

Bernie takes your energy and gives it to someone else
By They call me (2756), southampton on Sep 8, 15 1:29 PM
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to 27dan:

If one discounts that single, anomalous attack, the murder rate in Norway in 2011 was a tiny fraction of the rate in the USA. One notes that the 9/11 murder total was 3,000. Do you regard that atrocity as representative of the US murder rate as well?

Moreover, even after that horrific crime by a lone individual, Norway still ranked 4th in the United Nation's list of world's happiest countries while the USA came in 15th.

Finally, last I heard, there weren't ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Sep 8, 15 3:44 PM
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that was a stupid point to try and make since the 9/11 murders were carried out by muslim extremists but the norway guy was a citizen of norway

did you forget to take your aricept this morning ?
By Erin 27 E (1239), hampton bays on Sep 8, 15 4:04 PM
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Obama is taking highhats girl out for a second time and there is not a damn thing she can do to stop it.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 8, 15 7:03 PM
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paying more than 50% of ones' income is success? Not in the real world HH. How's your girl Hillary making out these days?
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 8, 15 6:02 PM
The truth is bigfresh, that between federal, state, local and add ons, I'm paying close to that now and getting a hell of a lot less back in return.
By bird (817), Sag Harbor on Sep 8, 15 7:17 PM
Well, if you get what you pay for, and they do; it's hardly much of a problem. Could explain that whole "stability" thing...
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 8, 15 11:01 PM
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Time to crawl back under your bridge marlin. Maybe someday you'll bring something of intellectual merit to the boards, but not today...
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 9, 15 7:59 AM
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We will have to disagree on this one Mr Z- I love my country, capitalism and the opportunities afforded us here, seemingly you do not.We have the freedom to voice our opinions and attempt to change what we don't like and defend what we do. I'll continue to vote for those who are pro business, pro smaller government and pro lower taxes. If your posts are any indication, you will do just the opposite, good luck.
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 9, 15 6:26 AM
One thing I can agree to, is you tend to ignore the framers with your "beliefs". That much is quite certain. Your stance on inherited wealth alone is quite demonstrable in that regard, as well as other truly un-American statements.

Truth hurts...
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 9, 15 7:58 AM
It's easy to say you are willing to give away your inherited wealth when you have nothing to give.
I love my country but I love my family more. I work hard and accumulate wealth so I can pass some down to my children. If the country had a high inheritance tax you lose the incentive to invest and accumulate wealth.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Sep 9, 15 8:08 PM
Well, most if not all of the framers would disagree with you. I guess you really don't understand the founding of the United States.

Super sorry...
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 10, 15 10:34 PM
Guess the founding fathers didn't practice what they preached. What was the Federal and state income taxes back then? What was the inheritance tax back then?
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Sep 11, 15 12:05 PM
Federally, 25% before repeal in 1802. Additionally matters as such were left to the states.

People who whose vested self interest in continuing the old world European style of aristocracy and building a generational fortune persisted. Social conventions take time to alter. Slavery is a prime example. Generational wealth defies the maxim "all men are created equal", undermines it, and is a pox on our society.
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 12, 15 5:54 AM
Where do you get off saying that because someone worked hard and became wealthy they can not pass that wealth on to their progeny ? Sure we are all CREATED equal but there is no guarantee of equal outcome for all, some will work harder than others, some will fail , some will just make it and some will amass fortunes, that's life. Once again you play the class warfare card and the anti capitalism one too. Jealousy is a pitiful thing to witness.
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 12, 15 7:07 AM
Please provide a reference for how you came up with a federal tax rate prior to 1802. Also you didn't answer the question about the inheritance tax prior to 1802. I go back to my original point. It's a lot easier to favor a 100 percent inheritance tax when you have nothing to give and no one to give it to. Nothing personal but I believe you fit both of those criteria
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Sep 12, 15 1:45 PM
Because I studied history, and have a plethora of very well written and authoritative books under my belt which back up my assertions.

Bottom line is you operate from propaganda, and I do not. Your argument is trite, and supported by nothing but polemics. Thomas Paine would disagree with you:

“an overgrown estate is a luxury at all times, and as such is the proper object of taxation.”

Additionally, so would Alexis DeToqueville would disagree with you, as ...more
Sep 12, 15 9:43 PM appended by Mr. Z
“Inherited economic power is as inconsistent with the ideals of this generation as inherited political power was inconsistent with the ideals of the generation which established our Government." ~ Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 12, 15 9:43 PM
Bonus kick in the trousers:

“Without the estate tax, you in effect will have an aristocracy of wealth, which means you pass down the ability to command the resources of the nation based on heredity rather than merit.”

~ Warren Buffett
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 12, 15 10:00 PM
1. Thomas Paine favored an estate tax of 10%. 10%!!!!. this tax was never put into place
2. Seeing that you are such a study of history you would know that your claim of a federal tax rate of 25% prior to 1802 is a complete lie.
3. Simplify the tax code, disallow uber wealthy people like buffet to take advantage of CRUT's and watch him change his opinion real quick. These so called foundations do benefit people but are massive tax avoidance vehicles. Coupled with ILITs or irrevocable trusts ...more
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Sep 12, 15 10:43 PM
In response to your last question, there was a Federal tax rate as stated under the Tax Stamp Act of 1797 to finance undeclared war with France. Estate taxes have consistently been used to fund wars, with recent exception, which we seem to be perpetually engaged in. Unlike George Bush's cuts during war, they were used to finance war and pay down debt. The lowest the rate has ever been was 10%, and the highest was 77%. As far as your presumption upon Thomas Paine's intentions, that was his plan ...more
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 13, 15 9:45 AM
You can babble all you want. There was no federal income tax and no inheritance tax prior to 1802. Most tax revenue was collected through tarrifs. Period.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Sep 13, 15 11:58 AM
The 25 % federal income tax you cited is pure rubbish. Just like all the garbage you post
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Sep 13, 15 12:00 PM
Incorrect. And I did not cite a Federal income tax. I answered your last question which was in line with the subject at hand. The Stamp Act of 1797 was an inheritance tax on estates and items bequeathed to others. There was of course an exemption of low amounts, as there always tends to be. Additionally there was the Revenue Act of 1862, and the War Revenue Act of 1898.

As Thomas Paine would likely tell you, private property is a necessity but it does not dismiss the responsibility of ...more
Sep 13, 15 4:09 PM appended by Mr. Z
And your first question about income tax was just too stupid to bother wasting time with. You're welcome.
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 13, 15 4:09 PM
You had claimed 25% "federally". Karnac the great I'm not but if you meant 25% federal inheritance tax than that is incorrect. The stamp act was used to pay for an unfunded war and was temporary. The tax was 25 CENTS on estates over 50 dollars and 50 cents on estates of 100 dollars.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Sep 14, 15 12:44 AM
Well, you finally did some research of your own. I never typed "income tax", now did I? And, it was a Federal tax now wasn't it?

Thanks for the glowing glimpse into your personality. Have a nice day...
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 14, 15 11:28 PM
That's correct and it validates my original point. There was no income taxes. There was a very nominal and temporary inheritance tax. Actions speak louder than words and it was not policy back then to redistribute wealth.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Sep 15, 15 6:53 AM
To Erin 27 E:

Quote:

“that was a stupid point to try and make since the 9/11 murders were carried out by muslim extremists but the norway guy was a citizen of norway

did you forget to take your aricept this morning ?”
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Here's a tip, Erin 27 E, when you accuse someone of stupidity, the fact that your own (brief) accusation contains EIGHT solecisms tends to undermine the gravitas of your opinion. (Parenthetically, ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Sep 9, 15 2:28 PM
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In other words Erin you nailed him
By 27dan (2774), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 9, 15 4:09 PM
WOW HH, you actually believe the UN? Pitiful, ignorant and oh so predictable. An organization comprised of many thugs and dictators financed by the US, useless in the extreme. Carry on oh pompous one, carry on.
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 9, 15 4:50 PM
to bigfresh:

Quote:

"WOW HH, you actually believe the UN? Pitiful, ignorant and oh so predictable. An organization comprised of many thugs and dictators financed by the US, useless in the extreme. Carry on oh pompous one, carry on."
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One certainly cannot criticize the sources on which YOU rely, bigfresh, since you have never posted an opinion supported by ANYTHING other than your own prejudiced, ignorant, selfish ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Sep 9, 15 6:17 PM
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HILLARY SLAMS OBAMA: 'They need a leader who cares about them again'...
Sep 9, 15 7:45 PM appended by 27dan
THIS JUST IN .... .... .... The Wynn hotel-casino in Las Vegas was revealed Wednesday as the host site for the first Democratic primary presidential debate. Steve Wynn, CEO of the Strip resort's parent company Wynn Resorts, confirmed details of the Oct. 13 televised debate. GET YOUR POP CORN NOW / Weeeee
By 27dan (2774), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 9, 15 7:45 PM
Americans are making it very clear :

We oppose this deal 2 to 1,

The more we learn about it , the more we revile it,

Those who enable Barack Hussein Obama II in this will be voted out in droves,

Things are going to be very different in 425 days !

Here is the deal HHS is supporting

$150 billion with a "b". Let's put that in real terms. IEDs cost $265 per bomb. Obama is about to give the Iranians enough money to build over 566 million IEDs.

The ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Sep 9, 15 8:37 PM
to They call me:

Your information is erroneous, as the following article explains:

“Treasury: No, Iran Is Not Getting $150 Billion From The Nuclear Deal. And it will cost over $100 billion just to restore the country's oil and gas sector” by Jessica Schulberg (The Huffington Post, July 29, 2015)

Your faulty premise makes all of your conclusions moot. If there is no “$150 billion” then your postulations as to how it will be spent are fatuous. ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Sep 10, 15 8:13 AM
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DEM'S STAND WITH IRAN...

The Democrats and Barack Hussein Obama II own the middle east now... lock, stock and barrell... The Ayatollahs behavior is now totally the result of this deal... Good luck with that High Hat, We'll add your name to the list of those who are to blame when Iran inevitably announces they have a nuke !

Senate Democrats on Thursday successfully blocked a measure meant to kill Barack Hussein Obama II nuclear deal with Iran, dealing a decisive defeat to Republicans’ ...more
Sep 10, 15 8:12 PM appended by joe hampton
Just take a look at that name Barack Hussein Obama II... Looks like we are getting exactly what we bargained for!
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 10, 15 8:12 PM
"That's not to say that none of the money released will be used by Iran to fund its homicidal agenda..."

Who is it again that Iran wants to kill? Oh yeah...

Iran’s Khamenei hails his people for demanding death to America and Israel. In vicious speech, leader says he hopes God will answer these prayers; vows nuclear deal won’t change Iran’s support for Palestine, opposition to America
Sep 12, 15 11:22 AM appended by Po Boy
By Times of Israel staff July 18, 2015 as stated by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei four days after signing the deal.
By Po Boy (4904), Water Mill on Sep 12, 15 11:22 AM
Your usual childish response that his name implies Barack is a muslim conspirator. That is about as childish as it gets. We can use force at any time throughout this process.Keeping the middle east somewhat stable by not bombing away has sent oil prices plummeting, we are bankrupting both Russia and Iran by this side effect. Talk about economic pressure.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Sep 12, 15 5:03 PM
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Childish ? Really ?

Have you asked yourself why any friend of Western culture let alone the POTUS. Would trade 5 Isis generals for deserter Bo Bergdal... then give him life in prison

Or even better just look at the Iranian deal that 78 % who understand the deal are aganst... And tell me again about Barack Hussein Obama II and his consularie Valerie born in Iran Jarrett
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 12, 15 9:08 PM
Four european countries and Russia are in on the deal,so what are you talking about. Your grabbing at straws. Prudence and strength mark Obama's presidency.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Sep 13, 15 8:16 AM
Mets fan the POTUS is a wimp and most probably a Muslim

Your Fired !

By They call me (2756), southampton on Sep 14, 15 6:02 PM
no doubt licking his wounds and consulting his thesaurus .
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 10, 15 6:12 AM
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Belittling intelligence.

My, how revealing...
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 10, 15 10:57 PM
12:00 PM: 10,000 free tickets to see the pope go up for grabs.

12:02 PM: Tickets run out.

12:05 PM: Tickets for sale on Craigslist for $500

'Murica
Sep 11, 15 12:12 AM appended by Mr. Z
Pakistan water mafias thrive in Karachi: Armed gangs are stealing water and selling it on the black market
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 11, 15 12:12 AM
And I would guess that there will be tickets sold, supply and demand my good man, supply and demand. Capitalism works.
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 11, 15 6:40 AM
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No surprise Z has finally found religion with this anti Capitalism Pontiff
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 11, 15 8:41 AM
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If we wanted proof y'all lack scruples, this looks to be it.
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 12, 15 5:43 AM
to Po Boy:

Pay attention, Po Boy, Iran will be LESS ABLE to embroil us in another (Republican) Middle East war if the agreement is approved. Whatever Ayatollah Khamenei may say for domestic consumption, the FACT is that the agreement puts off Iranian weaponization of nuclear material for at least as decade. WITHOUT the agreement, Iran becomes nuclear capable in 2018, at which time (or, in advance of which) Israel will attack Iran, the result of which will be that WE, AGAIN, will carry ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Sep 12, 15 4:38 PM
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By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 12, 15 9:09 PM
"Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."


~ Sun Tzu
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 12, 15 10:11 PM
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Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat

~ Sun Tzu
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 13, 15 1:02 AM
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I'm just happy to hear that ONLY SOME the money ("That's not to say that none of the money released will be used by Iran to fund its homicidal agenda...") will be used to kill us. I'm feeling better about this deal all time, especially now that we know (hear again the talking point) that Iran will be "LESS ABLE" to embroil us in another Republican (approved also by most Democrats) Middle East war.

It all seems very logical and reasonable to draw that feel good conclusion. Arming our enemies ...more
By Po Boy (4904), Water Mill on Sep 13, 15 9:29 AM
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By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Sep 13, 15 4:10 AM
Ok HHS... Would you just give a loaded gun to a mental patient that is promising to kill everyone in his school and tell the principal its ok because he has promised he will not buy any bullets for ten years.

The Iranians can not be trusted, they have told you there intentions.

Barack Hussein Obama II is just for filling the "Dreams of his real father" and trying to redistribute more power the the Muslim country's
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 13, 15 8:29 AM
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to Undocumented Democrat:

Your analogy is only apt if the mental patient is 6,000 miles away from his school and without transportation.

Of course the Iranians cannot be trusted. Everyone expects them to try to cheat. The verification measures in the agreement are there BECAUSE OF this expectation.

Finally, your allegation that the president is deliberately trying to empower Iran because it is a Muslim country is too dumb for comment.

This agreement will prevent ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Sep 13, 15 10:01 AM
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Tel Aviv to Tehran 962.550 miles
Sep 13, 15 1:45 PM appended by joe hampton
SHAHAB-3 MISSILE Range: 800-1,200mi (1,200-1,900km) Payload: Single Warhead (~800kg) Propolsion: Liquid Fuel; Single Stage Status: Operational (2003)
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 13, 15 1:45 PM
Poll: Sharp erosion in Clinton support among Democratic women
By Karen Tumulty September 14 at 12:56 PM

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Hillary Rodham Clinton is suffering rapid erosion of support among Democratic women — the voters long presumed to be her bedrock in her bid to become the nation’s first female president.

The numbers in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll are an alarm siren: Where 71 percent of Democratic-leaning female voters said in July that they expected ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Sep 14, 15 6:00 PM
Media Matters is the only group still publicly defendeing Hilary and funded by George Soros who funded ACORN, moveon.org, occupy and Black lives matter.

Dont be fooled

Never vote for HildaBush or her scumbolian brother Jeb, or her cousin Rubio.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 14, 15 6:26 PM
to joe hampton:

Sorry, joe hampton, when I referred to "our" national interest, I assumed that readers would know that I was referring to the United States. Now, for those readers whose allegiance is primarily to Israel, I can see how there might have been some confusion.
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Sep 14, 15 8:20 PM
DONALD PACKS THE HOUSE IN DALLAS...

Wall Street's latest panic: Trump could win...
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 14, 15 9:47 PM
Trump hammers 'this sanctuary cities crap' and talks about replacing Obamacare as women weep with joy and 20,000 enthralled Texans roar 90 minute speech
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 15, 15 2:47 PM
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By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Sep 15, 15 2:52 PM
WALL STREET ‘TERRIFIED’ BY TRUMP’S POPULISTS
by NEIL MUNRO15 Sep 2015118

Wall Street’s wealthy donors didn’t see the Donald Trump’s populist wave coming — and they’re “terrified,” according to Politico.

Where is the support from the wall street hating Mr Z

*** Crickets ***
By They call me (2756), southampton on Sep 15, 15 2:59 PM
Actually I've been kinda' busy, and a little bored with this.

"The Donald" does not appeal to me, and he's not a real capitalist. As an example, Warren Buffet is a real capitalist who understands the meaning of the word. He will go to the grave darn near penniless, and the vast majority of his wealth will be going to philanthropy. He'd rather not die rich, and be a disgrace.
By Mr. Z (11558), North Sea on Sep 15, 15 9:25 PM
Wow you can't be that naive
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Sep 16, 15 11:54 PM
Warren Buffet has the best legal and accounting team money can buy. While a private foundation is a very noble and charitable thing it also has massive tax advantages that deprives the government of tax revenue. Sell an appreciable asset in the foundation, pay no capital gains tax, reduce your estate tax, receive a tax deduction on the gift , receive income , retain total control and use a portion of the income to buy a life insurance policyin an ILIT to replace the gift amount estate tax free. ...more
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Sep 17, 15 12:39 PM
The Donald does not appeal to his Class envy, anti capitalist, anti successful business schtick.
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 15, 15 6:53 PM
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One need not give away ALL ones' wealth to be a great philanthropist .
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 16, 15 5:35 AM
Quick Note to the Pope
By Joe Bastardi · Sep. 18, 2015
Just two charts I would ask the pope to look at.

1.) Human progress: The amount of people, life expectancy and global personal GDP. These “hockey sticks” show that, since the advent of fossil fuels, the human condition has improved immensely.


2.) The factual record of CO2 and temperature in the geological history of the earth.


There is no apparent linkage, so why is CO2 suddenly ...more
Sep 18, 15 2:00 PM appended by joe hampton
If Pope Fran­cis wants to ad­voc­ate for the en­vir­on­ment, he should do so in his own free time and not on while on the clock for the Church. “If the pope wants to de­vote his life to fight­ing cli­mate change, then he can do so in his per­son­al time. But to pro­mote ques­tion­able sci­ence as Cath­ol­ic dogma is ri­dicu­lous,” and when the pope chooses to act like a progresive politi­cian, then he should ex­pect to be treated like one.”
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 18, 15 2:00 PM
If we wanted proof y'all lack scruples, this looks to be it.

By Mr. Z (7170), North Sea on Sep 12, 15 5:43 AM

Latin America's poverty is a direct result of corrupt governments, cronyism, a culture of bribery, and socialist policies that fail to protect property rights or encourage entrepreneurism.

Blaming capitalism is easy but reflects intellectual laziness and envy/coveting. Solve the real problem by opening up Latin America's markets and cracking down on corruption ...more
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 18, 15 2:08 PM
but but Noriega was a good dictator, a real socialist!! indefensible
By bigfresh (4546), north sea on Sep 19, 15 5:07 PM
Z is like most on the Left when it comes to economics... they have tons of ideas about how to spend or distribute the fruits of other people's success, while simultaneously condemning the motivations and reasons for all that success.
By joe hampton (3395), southampton on Sep 20, 15 4:39 PM
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