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Sep 28, 2016 10:24 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Proposal To Reroute Tuckahoe Road Is Put On Hold

Tuckahoe Road heading south through Shinnecock Hills Golf Club.  DANA SHAW
Sep 28, 2016 11:45 AM

A proposal by the Shinnecock Hills Golf Club to reroute a portion of Tuckahoe Road that runs through the middle of the historic golf course has been put on hold until plans for a new Southampton Hospital on the Stony Brook Southampton campus are finalized.

At the same time, despite public criticism of the proposed rerouting, the idea has garnered support from Suffolk County officials.

The club’s representatives have proposed to foot the estimated $5 million cost to reroute Tuckahoe Road alongside the golf course instead of through it. Under the golf club’s original proposal, the new portion of Tuckahoe Road would then be donated to the town road system, and the stretch of Tuckahoe Road now running through the golf course would either be closed to traffic during the summer or removed entirely. The club has added other financial incentives to the town as part of the offer.

Last week, Gilbert Anderson, the commissioner of the Suffolk County Department of Public Works, said the department believes that one way to improve the safety of that area would be to close that portion of Tuckahoe Road, which is just north of County Road 39, and move it farther east, just as the club has proposed.

“In addition to improving the traffic of that intersection, it would also be my hope that this would improve general traffic flow along the roadway,” Mr. Anderson said in a September 23 letter to the Southampton Town Board. “We are ready to work with the Town of Southampton and other partners to make sure that we are prioritizing safer roadways as the relocation [of the hospital] moves forward.”

However, according to Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman, the club’s proposal is “irrelevant” for now, until details about what the hospital needs are revealed.

Southampton Hospital and Stony Brook University Hospital are currently working out a partnership agreement that may be finalized as soon as January 1, 2017. As part of the collaboration, Stony Brook would allow Southampton to build a new hospital at its Southampton campus. According to Robert Chaloner, Southampton Hospital’s president and CEO, it will replace the current facility in Southampton Village, whose oldest section was built in 1930.

After a private meeting on Friday with Brett Pickett, the Shinnecock Hills Golf Club president, and former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg—a member of the club who also owns a house in the neighborhood—Mr. Schneiderman said an understanding was reached.

“Everything is on hold,” he said. “I think that it’s important that we know what the plans are for the hospital concerning that intersection before we deal with the golf course. I think everybody understands that this is off the table at the moment. There’s no point in having further discussions until the hospital makes clear what its plans are for the site.”

In a letter sent from the hospital to the Southampton Town Board, Mr. Chaloner said hospital officials have met with members of Suffolk County’s Department of Public Works to discuss how to improve traffic patterns around the campus to “ensure prompt and efficient ambulance access to the new hospital.” The biggest issue: the intersection of County Road 39 and Tuckahoe Road, right beside the campus. Tuckahoe Road continues south from that intersection, and runs alongside the eastern boundary of the main campus to Montauk Highway.

“While we are very excited about relocating the new hospital at the Southampton college campus, we believe that the current roadway configuration, including the at-ground Long Island Rail Road tracks at Tuckahoe Road and County Road 39, are significant issues for future planning,” Mr. Chaloner wrote in the letter. “As it now appears that our partnership with Stony Brook is in sight, we hope to start serious discussions on building the new hospital and open dialogue on the reconfiguration of the roadways within the area for maximum safety.”

Mr. Chaloner said the roads will have to be reviewed when the potential move to the campus is finalized. He declined to comment on what specific traffic changes the hospital may request.

Community members have voiced concerns about losing the views now seen from Tuckahoe Road, as well as about the accessibility and safety of the new road for students at the Southampton Montessori School.

Although Mr. Pickett declined to comment about whether another proposal may be presented to the Town Board, he said the club does not expect it to happen overnight.

“We respect all the thoughtful comments on our proposal both for and against,” Mr. Pickett said. “We believe if it’s the right thing to do then it’ll get done at some point. We understand the hospital has asked the Town Board to review the traffic plan in the area and that’s obviously a critical perspective to have before any decisions get made.”

“The community made clear how important the road is to them,” Mr. Schneiderman said. “I would not support any changes to the road system in that area unless it was better for the community than it was for the golf course. I’m not going to support a road change in that area that the community doesn’t support.”

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Now Jay can focus on stopping the PDD golf course in EQ. Only those who think they will benefit financially are for this fiasco.
By Taz (557), East Quogue on Sep 28, 16 10:42 AM
Jay, stop the I, I. You are a member of the board, not the only one to vote.
By knitter (1624), Southampton on Sep 28, 16 11:04 AM
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It's a TOWN road, not a Suffolk County road. More nonsense.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Sep 28, 16 11:34 AM
County has NOTHING to do with the TOWN owned Road. Thank God Jays' Town political career will be a distant memory next time this comes up.
By bigfresh (4165), north sea on Sep 28, 16 12:28 PM
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“As it now appears that our partnership with Stony Brook is in sight, we hope to start serious discussions ... on the reconfiguration of the roadways within the area for maximum safety.”
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Part of the Shinnecock Hills Golf Club 's developing "'long' game". So far, we have heard the road giveaway proposed as a solution for traffic congestion and as a needed measure to protect the lives of little children. Now ...more
By highhatsize (3927), East Quogue on Sep 28, 16 1:29 PM
HHS, I could not have summed it up better myself. Well done.
By dnice (2342), Hampton Bays on Sep 29, 16 4:51 PM
Kill this idea. The members can relocate the Shinnecock Golf Club instead, if they are unhappy with the present location. The public does not owe them a less obtrusive recreational experience. We all have to deal with the traffic, no one is offering to donate the Southampton Bathing Corporation to SH Village to increase public access to the beach.
By Funbeer (255), Southampton on Sep 28, 16 1:35 PM
Next we are to hear that Meadow Lane homeowners are offering several millions to buy the County Park on the eastern side of the Inlet, in time turning it into a recreation area for their newly formed association. Gates and a gatehouse will subsequently be installed at the southern end of Halsey Neck at Meadow Lane. Government officials are said to be in support of the idea since the threat of tsunami is ever present, endangering those who camp there.















By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Sep 28, 16 2:10 PM
Can someone explain to me how moving the turn-off to the proposed hospital from Tuckahoe Rd and CR 39 to Road "X" and CR 39 will really improve access and traffic flow? It seems to me it will just shift the turn-off a bit.
High Hat Size is right. This is all part of a long game on the part of the club. They will just keep adding their money and political muscle to the mix until all the players have been bought in some way shape or form.
Those now in office wonder why people are so angry ...more
By baywoman (162), southampton on Sep 28, 16 2:15 PM
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That Suffolk County officials have already weighed in is more than telling.
By June Bug (2361), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 28, 16 2:24 PM
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A more appropriate headline would be "Hacks Back Hackers."
By VOS (1170), WHB on Sep 28, 16 2:26 PM
When does govt mean will of the people? The county is making some back room deal with Bloomberg. Shame on you Bloomberg down grading Donald Trump when you are a snake operating against the will of the majority.
By chief1 (2637), southampton on Sep 28, 16 3:00 PM
With the County sticking in there 2 cents, something just doesn't smell right.
By 1942sparky (18), Bridgehampton on Sep 28, 16 6:10 PM
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Which Suffolk County officials need to be fired?
By Mr. Z (11002), North Sea on Sep 28, 16 7:56 PM
The shorter answer is to the question, which officials, if any, should be retained? County and Town.
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Sep 28, 16 9:03 PM
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Following
By Hamptons Seashell (34), Southampton on Sep 28, 16 10:06 PM
Why is Southampton Golf Club not raising objections?
This new road will destroy their only secluded part of the course. . This will ensure a road next to or within sight on every hole ..
By dave h (193), calverton on Sep 28, 16 10:50 PM
I've been wondering the same thing. What's in it for them?
By April1 (151), Southampton on Sep 29, 16 6:51 AM
State run hospital vs the local citizens, what are the chances that the will of the people will prevail?
By April1 (151), Southampton on Sep 29, 16 6:59 AM
Private meeting... then a surprise safety issue... sounds like the fix is in.
By Liman (25), Montauk on Sep 29, 16 8:50 AM
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The Public will not benefit from this proposal at all and the Hospital move is not going to have a traffic impact on Tuckahoe Lane -If anything the rail road being raised is the logical move The Golf Course came AFTER the road. DO NOT SELL PUBLIC PROPERTY TO BENEFIT THE UBER RICH it only promotes the entitled behavior they exhibit. Mr. Anderson could theoretically say the same thing for every access to the north of 39 so his belief is general
By lo-cal (71), southampton on Sep 29, 16 3:08 PM
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The hospital has been in a tight neighborhood since forever and somehow ambulances have managed to come and go. College property is bounded by open highways north and south which can only promote faster, easier access than little village streets. Tuckahoe is a no-traffic open expressway compared to Lewis Rd. It needs to be re-routed why? Tell me again?
Ambulance access another BS cover story to distract from real issue, greed for real estate Tuckahoe Rd. sits on.
No matter how much certain ...more
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Sep 29, 16 7:44 PM
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Is Jay kidding? “I would not support any changes to the road system in that area unless it was better for the community than it was for the golf course. I’m not going to support a road change in that area that the community doesn’t support.” Private meetings. Using Town Staff. Wasted work sessions.Please when is this guys term up?! Todays work session another example of his retreading old ideas that were bad then and still now. Wasted vote.
By Roughrider28 (80), southampton on Sep 29, 16 9:47 PM
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When the heat is on, the political hacks put the issue to bed and rely on us to take our eye off the issue. The signs are already being ordered by the dot. Bloomberg doesn't plan on succumbing to the wishes of the local, pitchfork bearing masses.
By SlimeAlive (1137), Southampton on Sep 30, 16 7:26 AM
The biggest problem is leverage over the elected / appointed officials. As in, would that we had more. It's extremely telling that the train tracks were mentioned, in relationship to emergency vehicle access. Are they really going to raise the tracks when they can just point to the existing underpass at St. Andrews Rd? No one in their right mind would take that bet. A bet worth taking is that the new hospital arrangement lists ambulance travel over train tracks as an issue—solved, of course, ...more
By nycnml (3), southampton on Sep 30, 16 9:16 AM
The biggest problem is leverage over the elected / appointed officials. As in, would that we had more. It's extremely telling that the train tracks were mentioned, in relationship to emergency vehicle access. Are they really going to raise the tracks when they can just point to the existing underpass at St. Andrews Rd? No one in their right mind would take that bet. A bet worth taking is that the new hospital arrangement lists ambulance travel over train tracks as an issue—solved, of course, ...more
By nycnml (3), southampton on Sep 30, 16 9:16 AM
Not a bad idea! Remember the clothesline law? That got to be known about far and wide and this is much more interesting.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Sep 30, 16 1:16 PM
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Would this be a good time to introduce a discussion of the reopening of the road connecting Tuckahoe Rd. with St. Andrews Rd., which parallels CR 39 just to its north?

Who is the owner of the road? If it's the county, why on earth did you close it? Reopen it - - - NOW! If it's our gracious neighbors in the Shinnecock Hills Golf Club, what a splendid opportunity this would be for them to display their civic consciousness, not to mention their concern for the wellbeing of their fellow ...more
By highhatsize (3927), East Quogue on Sep 30, 16 3:23 PM
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People are saying its a Town owned right of way that the Golf Course arbitrarily closed of its own volition without asking for or receiving any approval.

At least thats what people are saying.

Haven't been able to verify it.

Perhaps someone from the Press might want to look into it.

By NTiger (543), Southampton on Oct 1, 16 12:38 PM
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YES THE STOLEN ROAD !!! !
Boarded it up so it wud fall into decay
By dave h (193), calverton on Oct 2, 16 10:11 PM
Suffolk County should mind its own business. If the town approves the plan, then the people should peacefully protest in front of golf course during season.
By Walt (283), Southampton on Oct 3, 16 3:05 PM
If County wants to do something in the neighborhood it can put up shelters on 39. There's one needed right in front of the club where yesterday I saw a caddie waiting for a bus ride. Otherwise stay in Hauppauge and shut up. Quit it with giving cover to this bogus Bloomberg business.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Oct 4, 16 9:26 AM
I think it has dawned on some of The Shinnecock Hills Golf Club Members that whenever the hospital does open on the college property, that there will be emergency vehicles traveling Tuckahoe Road with their sirens on. I believe this is their main concern, not the safety of its players. How about the well-being and safety of the patients being transported? I would think that would trump folks enjoying a game of golf.
By Hamptons Seashell (34), Southampton on Oct 5, 16 10:33 PM
PLEASE TELL Jay Schneiderman and the Southampton Town Council to KEEP TUCKAHOE ROAD PUBLIC... Please take a minute to sign the on-line petition - It's important!

ipetitions.com/petition/tuckahoe-road

Thank you for your time and attention...
By Vikki K (490), Southampton on Oct 6, 16 5:42 PM
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Quote:

"People are saying its a Town owned right of way that the Golf Course arbitrarily closed of its own volition without asking for or receiving any approval. [The road connecting St. Andrews Road with Tuckahoe Road that is north of and parallel to CR39.]

At least thats what people are saying.

Haven't been able to verify it.

Perhaps someone from the Press might want to look into it." - NTiger
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Not ...more
Oct 6, 16 6:45 PM appended by highhatsize
Edit: Read "Shinnecock" for "Southampton". Apologies.
By highhatsize (3927), East Quogue on Oct 6, 16 6:45 PM