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Aug 16, 2017 12:34 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

UPDATE: East Hampton Town Officials Denounce Violence In Charlottesville

Lee Zeldin
Aug 17, 2017 12:14 PM



UPDATE: Thursday, 11:45 a.m.



The East Hampton Town Anti-Bias Task Force issued a statement on Wednesday condemning, as an “attack on us all,” the violence in Charlottesville.

“No matter your political party, religion, ethnic background, age, disability, gender, sexual orientation, race or familial status, robbing our community of its sense of security and well-being is a domestic act of terrorism and is no less a threat,” the statement said in part.

The task force also said it supported a statement expressing similar sentiments that was issued on Monday by the Center for Social Justice and Human Understanding, the Suffolk County Human Rights Commission, and the Suffolk County Anti-Bias Task Force.

At an East Hampton Town Board work session on Tuesday, Supervisor Larry Cantwell also denounced what he called “the hate and violence that occurred in Virginia," describing white supremacists, Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan as “anti-American” and “a plague on our democracy.”



ORIGINAL STORY:

Amidst the uproar prompted by President Trump’s early unwillingness to denounce the Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazi demonstrators at the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday, U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin has produced multiple statements of his own—the most recent echoing the president’s insistence that both sides of the violence share the blame.

Mr. Zeldin released the lengthy statement on Tuesday night shortly after President Trump defended his initial remarks from Saturday decrying the violence “on many sides.” Mr. Zeldin’s statement starts with a denunciation of those associating themselves with the KKK and Nazism as embracing an ideology of “hatred” and “racism.” However, he goes on to condemn the “antifa,” or antifacist, contingent that bused in “criminals” to commit acts of violence at the rally, classifying them as the “hard left” counterposed to the “alt right.”

He also blamed the fierce backlash the president’s remarks engendered on an unwillingness of some people to support the president no matter what he argues. He ends the statement with a call for unity, tacitly equalizing the fringe elements on both the right and the left and calling for the political centers to come together.

His dispersal of evenhanded blame struck a chord with Southampton Democratic Party Chairman Gordon Herr.

“I am appalled,” he said on Wednesday. “I have no tolerance for this statement and as far as I’m concerned, this is why we are working so hard to see Zeldin defeated next year. And he will be.”

Southampton Republican Party Chairman Damon Hagan had no comment, preferring to let the congressman’s statement speak for itself.

On Monday, when questioned about an earlier statement, Mr. Zeldin mounted a defense of both his own previous statements and President Trump’s. “Even if you know what your words mean to you, other people will interpret it how they want with different motivations,” he said. “People showed up looking for violence on both sides.”

However, he fought back against those who felt that his original statements did not go far enough in condemning the KKK and neo-Nazi activists who spurred Saturday’s violence.

“My statement specifically singles out those who associate with the KKK and Nazism and their hatred and bigotry,” Mr. Zeldin said on Monday. “I was specific and sent out multiple different statements on Saturday through Facebook, Twitter, and email. There is no way anyone can come to the conclusion that I wasn’t specific in my comments unless they picked some of my words and ignored the rest.”

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Like Fuhrer, like son.

Despicable.

By johnj (687), Westhampton on Aug 16, 17 12:51 PM
Lee is 100 percent correct. Violence and hatred should be condemned for both sides.
By razza5350 (1859), East Hampton on Aug 17, 17 6:38 AM
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Except one side is promoting violence and hatred while the other is trying to prevent it. Surely you don't a history lesson, do you?
By johnj (687), Westhampton on Aug 17, 17 11:25 AM
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Lol, Congressman, I dont think your Israeli bankrolled campaign will like this argument. They kind of like the whole, one side is right one side is wrong, thing...
By Brandon Quinn (107), Hampton Bays on Aug 16, 17 12:56 PM
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Especially when it comes to nazis...
By Brandon Quinn (107), Hampton Bays on Aug 16, 17 12:57 PM
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libs have decided that their best strategy for winning back voters in 2020 is

1.) obstruct any decrease in your taxes
2.) condemn all Trump voters as nazis
3.) systematically destroy historical artifacts in a failed effort to re-write history

Good luck with that.
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Aug 16, 17 1:37 PM
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Get your head out of T's a**.
By Jolly Roger (3), Southampton on Aug 19, 17 4:08 PM
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Question: What's a poor extremist Right-Wing Likud agent to do in these circumstances?

Answer: Speak simultaneously from both sides of his mouth.

Rather garbles the message though.




By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 16, 17 1:54 PM
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You should like that, Democrats do it all the damn time.
By Preliator Lives (238), Obamavillie on Aug 17, 17 6:45 AM
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By Jolly Roger (3), Southampton on Aug 19, 17 4:10 PM
Dude, your screen name is jolly roger
By dnice (1985), Hampton Bays on Aug 19, 17 6:53 PM
cons have decided that their best strategy for winning back voters in 2020 is

1.) make no discernible attempt at tax reform
2.) defend white supremacists and nazis
3.) systematically ignore facts in a bizarre attempt to re-write reality.

Good luck with that.
By vexatiousmass (10), Sag Harbor on Aug 16, 17 1:55 PM
The KKK type groups have been denounce by our President many times now but the MSM will never be satisfied until he's removed from office and we have all of our rights taken from us.. President Trump returned to Washington D.C. on Monday and specifically condemned neo-nazi, KKK, and white supremacist forces that attended the Charlottesville rally, calling them “criminals and thugs” who were “repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”
Aug 16, 17 6:42 PM appended by They call me
The VA Governor let ANTIFA and BLM run wild last weekend by ordering the state police to stand down. As a result, ANTIFA and BLM have been emboldened, and are acting extremely aggressive.The MSM should acknoldge that these groups are also responsible and are "criminals and thugs” who are also “repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”
By They call me (2143), southampton on Aug 16, 17 6:42 PM
Uhhh, who died at the Charlotte rally and who was at fault; and, not to miss the main point -- why were the Nazis, white supremecists and other right wing nut jobs there anyway -- to protest a 3-2 vote of the local Charlotte Town Board to remove the statue of a traitorous Confederate general who fought to maintain an evil and diabolical system of repression. While marching to support General Leethe alt-right chanted Nazi slogans like "Blood and soil," and "Jew will not replace us." What happened ...more
By number19 (107), Westhampton on Aug 16, 17 8:46 PM
I agree the Nazi White supremacists are nut jobs . We all agree on that and always have .The president agreed as well, so stop trying to change that and realize there are other players at work here that are just as bad!
By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Aug 16, 17 9:25 PM
Um, #19, who were the ones wearing masks in Charlottesville?
By Frank Wheeler (1729), Northampton on Aug 17, 17 2:10 AM
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Apparently number 19 know nothing about history and doesn't care to learn.
By razza5350 (1859), East Hampton on Aug 17, 17 6:40 AM
Amazing isn't it. The 21st Century version of the KKK and Neo-nazis have no qualms about showing their face -- speaks volumes about the era of Trump. I was thrilled to read that a few of them lost their jobs; and, imagine this, one father disowned his son for supporting the KKK and nazi agenda. How about Senator Corker's statement about Trump, gotta love it. He thinks Trump is unstable and doesn't understand what makes USA great. What;s that -- similar statements made by Sen Flake and Sen Graham.


By number19 (107), Westhampton on Aug 18, 17 8:44 AM
I love it when all the anti Semites come out to play ....the hypocrisy is off the charts...
I'm sure this comment will be deleted considering it's ok to bash Israel but not ok to defend Israel, or defend any person that defends Israel ......
By Biba (338), East Hampton on Aug 16, 17 2:27 PM
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This video should be watched by everyone to understand Israel.
By A_Concerned_Parent (37), manorville on Aug 17, 17 9:57 PM
It's pretty amazing how Zeldin simultaneously keeps his head buried in the sand and Trump's tuches.
By Pacman (62), Southampton on Aug 16, 17 2:34 PM
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"There is an element of our country that has pledged to resist, oppose, and obstruct this President entirely on absolutely everything and anything and to this population the President cannot say or do absolutely anything at all that they won't criticize as long as he is in the office he was elected to serve in last November." - Zeldin

Unfortunately Zeldin said this yesterday; he was silent on the subject from January 2009 - Jnuary 2017.
By VOS (987), WHB on Aug 16, 17 3:31 PM
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Well VOS I have another question...
Why weren't these offensive confederate statues removed between the years 2009-2017...?
By Sturgis (242), Southampton on Aug 17, 17 7:18 AM
Anyone who cant admit that the Charlottesville unrest has blame on both sides. does not know anything about Antifa or BLM and I suggest you get yourself to you tube for an education.

Any descent person would not supports the KKK and these supremest groups / Any honest person admits Antifa and BLM are every bit as bad.

Stop the hate !
By Undocumented Democrat (1517), southampton on Aug 16, 17 4:52 PM
Don't forget the communists. Actually card carrying communists were a dominant part of the rally protestors. The people who toppled that statue after the event were all members of the Workers World Party, the biggest communist group in the US. So every time someone tries to characterize the rally protestors as heros and do-gooders and full of love and tolerance they need to be asked what their thoughts are on anarchists and communists - then feel free to point out the hypocrisy. And for the record, ...more
By localEH (228), East Hampton on Aug 16, 17 5:11 PM
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Yes, two side full of venom and hate, President Trump is trying to say just that and anyone who cant see that should examine there motives.. think about it he is saying more than obama ever did he at least is blaming both sides and the left still hates!
By Undocumented Democrat (1517), southampton on Aug 16, 17 6:15 PM
Its one sided Bro, The KKK came to fight, We in America stand up for our civil rights
By 1percent (40), Quogue on Aug 16, 17 6:33 PM
You seem to be confused, EH. The statue that was toppled was not pulled down by people who "were a dominant part of the rally protestors" because that was done in a different state than your little "rally." Better double check with your "sources," someone is feeding you big loads of BS and you're just eating it up.

And it's legal to carry a card and legal to be a communist in the good ol' US of A. It's still not legal to drive vehicles into peaceful crowds.
By VOS (987), WHB on Aug 17, 17 3:00 AM
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EH wasn't saying the statue that was toppled was in Charlottesville. But it was toppled BECAUSE of Charlottesville and yes, many are communists and the statue topplers are members of the World Workers Party and they advocate violence. Remember that totalitarian regimes silence their enemies by extermination. The poor people of eastern Europe traded Nazi rule for Stalin's rule. There is bad on both sides, but just because someone leans right doesn't automatically make them a racist or a nazi, unless ...more
By Babyboo (209), Hampton Bays on Aug 17, 17 5:23 PM
Just to really top it all off, guess who the World Workers Party is on of the biggest advocates of ... North Korea. Kinda surreal when you hear people cheering for and praising the actions of communist supporters of North Korea. As I said, a pox on both their houses!
By localEH (228), East Hampton on Aug 17, 17 7:34 PM
OMG. The left goes Apesh$^t if you don't agree that everything in the world is the fault of white people.
By Babyboo (209), Hampton Bays on Aug 16, 17 5:10 PM
Why did the peaceful protesters have soda cans filled with cement? Protection?
Don't agree with the violence from both sides, no virgins there...
By knitter (869), Southampton on Aug 16, 17 5:13 PM
I would have to agree they go way to far on both sides. We need to invest in our infrastructure and come together. Trump won fair and square. I don't like it, but its over.

To condone the actions of the Soros groups who go to a rallies with bags of urine and feces to throw at the police is out of hand. I am sure they goated the stupid racest hillbilly to do what he did. Still that is no excuse for these Southern Klan types behavior that is just as disgusting as the Antifa groups.
By local 84 (300), riverhead on Aug 16, 17 6:32 PM
Zeldin by a good margin , he was voted in by long Islander Both Republican, Democrat and Jewish,Black, Spanish ETC all because they either wanted a Republican that promised good government, What we Long Islanders got was a TRUMP Lackey little man that wants to be Trump,a good politician works for all the people. He as Trump supports the notion that both the KKK, NAZI, Alt Right and the American people who oppose them are some how the same type of protesters. Shame on you Zeldin, You're talking ...more
By 1percent (40), Quogue on Aug 16, 17 6:31 PM
Should have voted for Bernie he could have beat Trump fair and square unlike the corruption we saw from the DNC. Whos fualt is that ?
By local 84 (300), riverhead on Aug 16, 17 6:36 PM
That's the DNC's fault.
By Pacman (62), Southampton on Aug 17, 17 10:10 AM
Your not very well read are you Pacman. The DNC and Debbie Washerwoman Schultz total sold Bernie down the river in favor of that corrupt hack! Look it up.
By local 84 (300), riverhead on Aug 17, 17 12:59 PM
Calm down. I am saying it's the DNC's fault. I am well aware that the DNC rigged the whole thing against Bernie.

You are asking who's at fault for Bernie not getting the democratic nomination. That's the DNC's fault, like I just said.

*You're
By Pacman (62), Southampton on Aug 17, 17 3:24 PM
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I guess you missed the display in NY two years ago 1percent that chanted "WHAT DO WE WANT ? .... DEAD COPS ....WHEN DO WE WANT THEM ? .... NOW " Its discusting on both sides and needs to be recognized! I applaud our president for taking responsibility and recognizing that both sides need to stop the hate! Now maybe the media should stop the race baiting and do the same.
By widow gavits (136), sag harbor on Aug 16, 17 7:00 PM
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You're Dealing with an unorthodox, blatantly racist, bigoted President., Who cares about no one but ratings and winning, He not stable in mind and heart. No one said dead cops, They might of said Cops kill black kids without repercussions. Kinda makes a father and mother mad Huh.
By 1percent (40), Quogue on Aug 16, 17 9:45 PM
"No one said dead cops"

Oh 1percent, protestors sure did chant "WHAT DO WE WANT ? .... DEAD COPS ....WHEN DO WE WANT THEM ? .... NOW ".
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 17, 17 8:23 AM
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It's a playground fight ofhe said she said, she pulled my hair he kicked me and he called me stupid and she called me fat. My god both sides look foolish. People that say protesting accomplishes something needs a mental health check. Everybody calm down! And yes that includes internet commenters!
By GoldenBoy (324), EastEnd on Aug 16, 17 7:05 PM
Unfortunately it seems like the extremist people on both side are hogging the mic so none of the reasonable centrist people can get a word in edgewise. Worse still, the extremists are demanding that everyone in the middle has to choose a side and become an extremist too or else suffer their wrath and doxxing. The division just keeps getting deeper.
By localEH (228), East Hampton on Aug 16, 17 10:31 PM
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Considering only one side came armed with fully loaded handguns and rifles and brought shields and clubs and that group, who chanted "Jews won't replace is," is the only side that deliberately murdered someone....no, both sides were not equally to blame. The nazi kkk people went there armed for a fight. And btw Trump lied -- I know, I know, shocking --- both sides of demonstrators had proper permits.

Can you imaging what would have happened if BLM had showed up dressed like storm troopers ...more
By btdt (409), water mill on Aug 16, 17 7:48 PM
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Your argument is ridiculous. No "side" murdered anyone. One individual with a long troubling history murdered someone and injured others. He will be dealt with by the legal system.
By bird (626), Sag Harbor on Aug 17, 17 10:01 AM
Wrong, conformed reports that paid ANTIFA showed up AND the authorities were prepared to declare them and the counter protesters an unlawful assembly. Only one group, like it or not, had a permit to be there that day; blame the ACLU, they went to court for the protesters. And lets face facts, the authorities should have done everything they could to keep the groups apart...they didn't, they failed at their jobs.
By Preliator Lives (238), Obamavillie on Aug 18, 17 9:24 AM
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both sides paid for by George Soros
By LovinLife (52), East Quogue on Aug 16, 17 8:19 PM
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...in Seattle stands a statue of Lenin.
By loading... (510), quiogue on Aug 17, 17 2:58 AM
and thats ok right! unbelievable what this country is becoming.
By They call me (2143), southampton on Aug 17, 17 12:05 PM
Why should our congressmen even comment, this event took place in another state. They have their own elected officials to address the matters at hand, why does every one now feel the need to interject themselves into the affairs of others at all times? I would like the elected officials of New York to worry about New York; that is their job.
By Preliator Lives (238), Obamavillie on Aug 17, 17 6:45 AM
I'm sure we are all in agreement that the neo Nazis are idiots , hate filled idiots that use violence to spread their message of hate. Likewise Antifa is a bunch of idiots that use violence to spread their hate filled rhetoric. Both are on the fringes of society where extremists belong. Not sure why the left won't denounce them both.
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Aug 17, 17 7:14 AM
The majority has known Neo-Nazis/KKK are pieces of trash for decades. Most US students are taught about the horrors of the Nazis and the hate of the KKK. Its not until recently that the Anitfa meme was used to label the alt-left IN THE US. When the Antifa meme is compared to the Nazis by the President, people are going to get upset.

But if part of Antifa's 'hate filled rhetoric' is that Nazis are a plague on the earth I think we can all agree they might be right one that issue.
By Genuin (26), Hampton Bays on Aug 17, 17 10:18 AM
Trump is the pied piper of liberal hate.

We're only 8 mos into an 8 year thing and he has already succeeded in bringing out liberal hatred of the US and it's history that is so deep rooted that the left is looking to destroy our nation's culture and history.
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Aug 17, 17 7:21 AM
Makes you wonder WHO is benefiting from the intentionally ginned up chaos and violence.

Answer: Democrats who were desperate to find a way to regain relevance. That includes the Democratic politicians who gave the stand down orders to the police down to the ignorant Antifa bigots who came to provoke a fight. They got what they wanted from the ignorant and bigoted KKK.
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 17, 17 8:14 AM
I feel like President Trump's spirited defense of monuments to Confederate war heros may have cost him the black vote.
By dfree (316), hampton bays on Aug 17, 17 9:06 AM
to Po Boy (& Frank Wheeler):

Quote:

"Makes you wonder WHO is benefiting from the intentionally ginned up chaos and violence.

Answer: Democrats who were desperate to find a way to regain relevance. That includes the Democratic politicians who gave the stand down orders to the police down to the ignorant Antifa bigots who came to provoke a fight. They got what they wanted from the ignorant and bigoted KKK."
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Having tried every ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 17, 17 9:29 AM
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The facts are irrefutable indeed. Two sides came armed for battle. Both hold bigoted and hate filled extremist views and both have a history of violence.
Aug 17, 17 9:39 AM appended by Po Boy
ACLU: "Clash between protestors and counter protestors. Police say "We'll not intervene until given command to do so."" All while Democrat Brian Moran, Virginia Secretary of Public Safety and Homeland Security, appointed by Democrat Governor Terry McAuliffe, watched from a command center. Moran later said in the aftermath of that left one dead, ""Let me unequivocally state that that is an unfounded criticism," Moran said. "I was there. I was at their training at 7 o'clock in the morning. ... I could not be prouder of the Virginia State Police, our National Guard and the Charlottesville Police Department, how they pre-planned and how they executed the plan to ensure public safety in Charlottesville." Well bravo Democrat Brian Moran.
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 17, 17 9:39 AM
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There's idiot extremists on both sides of the American political spectrum but it's about ten thousand crazed left-wingers to every one crazed right-winger. It's always been that way and always will. Down with all the anarchists, bolsheviks & communists. Long Live American History !!!
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 17, 17 9:48 AM
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As usual you are being dishonest with yourself as well as others. every fair minded person here can see both sides are at fualt...both sides were outfitted for combat and went to Charlotte with the intent of provoking violence. why do you apologize for Antifa and BLM ? maybe you do not understand what has been going on at these rallies for the last year. you should get out a little more hat.
By joe hampton (2905), The Hamptons on Aug 17, 17 12:20 PM
The KKK is a fringe and outdated group with little significance in our modern society. At the same time what do we hope to accomplish by tearing down historic monuments, it is no different than ISIS or the Taliban who have blown up Christian monuments, artifacts and churches throughout the middle east. We should learn from history not try and erase it.

Instead we should be concentration on coming together and re building our infrastructure and rebuilding out cities. Please stop this hate ...more
By local 84 (300), riverhead on Aug 17, 17 1:08 PM
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to Undocumented Democrat (& razza5350 & bird & bigfresh & 27dan & local84 & They call me & Erin 27 E & bmr80 & widow gavits):

Quote:

"Anyone who cant admit that the Charlottesville unrest has blame on both sides. does not know anything about Antifa or BLM and I suggest you get yourself to you tube for an education.

Any descent person would not supports the KKK and these supremest groups / Any honest person admits Antifa and BLM are every bit as bad."
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["sigh"] ...more
Aug 17, 17 9:47 AM appended by highhatsize
to Mr. Snerdley (infra): The cited article ALSO SPECIFICALLY DEBUNKS your ignorant allegation that BLM chanted for "dead cops" in NYC. That WASN'T BLM, Mr. Snerdley. (You have to read more than the TITLE of an article.) "The clip in question involving chants about 'dead cops' was shot in New York City in December 2014, but contemporaneous reporting widely and incorrectly identified its source as Black Lives Matter and Millions March demonstrations taking place in different parts of the city at different times." - Snopes
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 17, 17 9:47 AM
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Please stop hating all white people, enough already.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 17, 17 9:49 AM
HHS wrote: "As I have already pointed out on another thread, the accusation that BLM is a violent hate group that chanted for "dead cops" and that advocates violence is blatant Right-Wing propaganda that was refuted over a year ago.*"
Aug 17, 17 10:02 AM appended by Mr. Snerdley
Yeah, about that... the focus of the Snopes review was on an event that took place SPECIFICALLY in Baton Rouge. It's well documented that BLM has shouted: "WHAT DO WE WANT ? .... DEAD COPS ....WHEN DO WE WANT THEM ? .... NOW ". Specifically in our NYC back yard. No, that's not too violent or hate filled now is it.
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 17, 17 10:02 AM
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Hat Hat you have always had a problem with the police. Anyone who has been around here long enough knows from your ongoing comments about our local police departments knows this to be the case. Please let me know if you would like me to post those comments for everyone here to evaluate further.
By joe hampton (2905), The Hamptons on Aug 17, 17 12:28 PM
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HHS just because you have stuck your head in the sand and buried yourself in your own echo chamber doesn't mean all of those things you want to pretend didn't happen. The counter-protestors DID come armed with bats, pipes, guns, sticks with nails embedded, soda cans filled with concrete, water bottles filled with bleach, helmets and other assorted weapons designed for riots, violence, and mayhem. They WERE made up of communists, antifa, anarchists and BLM extremists (strange group of people to ...more
By localEH (228), East Hampton on Aug 17, 17 4:07 PM
Trump can't bring himself to condemn white nationalists by name even though their ideology supports killing his son-in-law, daughter, and grandchildren. What kind of man is he? Incredibly pathetic.
By harbor (296), East Hampton on Aug 17, 17 10:36 AM
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By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Aug 17, 17 12:31 PM
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By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Aug 17, 17 1:18 PM
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Perhaps you need to peek your head out from inside your own narrow little echo chamber before you make embarrassing comments like that. These are some of the condemnations Trump has made:
We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides. It's been going on for a long time in our country. It has no place in America. Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, ...more
By localEH (228), East Hampton on Aug 17, 17 4:18 PM
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Pure kaka. Ever hear of deeds, not words? These are words put in trump's mouth by WH officials trying to do damage control. Trump was raised by a man who was arrested at a KKK rally, has been sued for racial housing discrimination, led the Birther movement, told a girlfriend he only talks to "interesting or very famous blacks".
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 17, 17 8:18 PM
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I hope they didn't tear down the concrete pedestals these statues were mounted on. They're going to need them for the new heroes of the next civil war that is coming soon to the United States.
By BruceB (131), Sag Harbor on Aug 17, 17 4:27 PM
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Every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. History has stopped. -1984, Orwell
By localEH (228), East Hampton on Aug 17, 17 7:38 PM
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By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 17, 17 8:37 PM
I read the comments on this page which, let's face it, aren't comments as much as they are hate filled insults of people on either sides of the spectrum and am completely disheartened. Hating each other and being right is you're number one priority. Remember when we used to be proud to be Americans??? Remember when we used to think we could do anything, solve any problem?? You're so pre-occupied with your side winning that you can't even see that you're losing it for all of us. Turn off Fox News, ...more
By kkelly75 (16), Hampton Bays on Aug 17, 17 4:32 PM
Brian McLaren, a prominent Christian author and activist, who wrote about his experiences in Charlottesville:
I have participated in many protests and demonstrations over the years, but I have not seen the faith community come together in such a powerful and beautiful way as they did in Charlottesville,” he wrote. “I met UCC, Episcopal, Methodist, Unitarian, Lutheran, Baptist, Anglican, Presbyterian and Jewish faith leaders, and the Quakers were out in large numbers, wearing ...more
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 17, 17 8:41 PM
How wonderfully progressive the right wing-nuts are when it comes to protecting Nazi and white supremacists first amendment rights. But when Kaepernick protests, you start foaming at the mouth. Obviously judging by the crowd of Nazi's and white supremacists in Charlottesville, he was right about the sub culture of hate that still exists for blacks in this country. Usual hypocritical, pick and choose Republicans when it suits them. Disgusting traitors you are.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 17, 17 8:48 PM
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You are just as divisive as those you criticize Mets fan.
By dnice (1985), Hampton Bays on Aug 17, 17 9:58 PM
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By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 17, 17 11:26 PM
Sticks and stones
By dnice (1985), Hampton Bays on Aug 18, 17 6:50 AM
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I hope to be as divisive as possible when it comes to Nazi's, white supremacists, and their sympathizers.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 18, 17 8:33 AM
They should have left your original comment up.
By dnice (1985), Hampton Bays on Aug 19, 17 7:01 PM
LOVE is or should be, color blind.
The media makes the ten thousand times worse.
By A_Concerned_Parent (37), manorville on Aug 17, 17 9:55 PM
Nazi's and White supremacists march in great numbers in Charlottesville, and the media makes that worse? Those who say nothing about it, make it worse.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 17, 17 11:35 PM
For the record I condemn and abhor the Kkk and white nationalists but don't you believe in free speech. The rally was originally held to protest the removal of a few statues. With the exception of one lunatics don't see anything wrong with that. The left does it all the time. Maybe the alt right should organize, protest and incite violence ever single time the alt left decides to protest something.
By razza5350 (1859), East Hampton on Aug 18, 17 1:37 AM
There were hundred of lunatics there. Unless you consider Nazi's and white supremacists, just your average protesting American according to you. How's your free speech when it comes to Kaepernick? Did you see Vice news follow and interview the Nazi with his Stony Brook roots?
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 18, 17 8:28 AM
Trump's recent unflinchingly truthful remarks about Charlottesville reinforced my support for him.

AMERICA AGREES WITH TRUMP — NPR POLL: 62% SAY CONFEDERATE STATUES HONORING LEADERS SHOULD REMAIN

the polls show that because most reasonable people realize it's a stupid thing to do that accomplishes nothing we can't change the past only learn from it.

MAGA !
By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 17, 17 11:13 PM
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Maybe he should have listened to the descendants of Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, and Robert E. Lee. All of them said they should be taken down and placed in a museum.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 17, 17 11:29 PM
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By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 17, 17 11:30 PM
If you're going to call someone a moron, spell "you're" correctly. More oomph.
By SlimeAlive (625), Southampton on Aug 18, 17 5:29 AM
Making America Garbage Again!
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 17, 17 11:31 PM
to localEH (& joe hampton & Undocumented Democrat & Erin 27 E & the widow gavits)

Quote:

“HHS just because you have stuck your head in the sand and buried yourself in your own echo chamber doesn't mean all of those things you want to pretend didn't happen. The counter-protestors DID come armed with bats, pipes, guns, sticks with nails embedded, soda cans filled with concrete … et. “
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Lies, baseless belief, unsupported ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 18, 17 12:19 AM
I'll be protesting the monument on Jobs La in Southampton today. Will propose we let the Shinnecock Nation put a smoke shop there.
By SlimeAlive (625), Southampton on Aug 18, 17 5:27 AM
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Another derogatory, bigoted, bias post. Welcome to today's right wing.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 18, 17 8:31 AM
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In case you didn't see them all, here are all the liberal comments of outrage against the democrat senator who openly wished someone would murder President Trump:
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Aug 18, 17 8:43 AM
Can we all agree that BOTH sides came ready for a violent confrontation?
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Aug 18, 17 9:19 AM
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It's no mystery that the majority of the comments on this message board are defending neo-nazis and white supremacists. It's the only recourse you people have—you're too cowardice to speak these beliefs in person, or you have no one left in your life to speak with in the first place.

Again, you say both sides are to blame for the unrest and destruction in Charlottesville, but the situation is actually quite simple.

One side of the unrest, the neo-nazis and white supremacists, ...more
By vexatiousmass (10), Sag Harbor on Aug 18, 17 10:05 AM
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There have been no comments here supporting or defending either the neo Nazis or the Klan , if so, please enlighten us all. While their message is loathsome , vile and repugnant , they have the same right to free speech as any other group, we don't have to like what they say. That being said, BLM and Antifa have no right to react with violence , none whatsoever. Leave it to a liberal to defend the indefensible.
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Aug 18, 17 12:02 PM
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It's too bad Donnie Johnny couldn't channel his hatred for nazi's like he did for Nordstrom's dropping Ivanka's clothing line.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 18, 17 12:41 PM
I think that what people are trying to say is this:

If you walk around with Nazi flags or if you walk around with people who are carrying Nazi flags chanting slogans derived from Nazi slogans that this is an act of violence. And it is being made clear that many Americans are ok with violence against Nazi's and Nazi ideals, just like we always have been (just like many are accepting of violence against ISIS).

So go ahead and call what these people are doing free speech. But working ...more
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (399), southampton on Aug 18, 17 12:48 PM
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from your lips to junes ears to bad you can only see things from your side of the street, sad
By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Aug 18, 17 8:22 PM
What is sad about calling Nazi's murderers or pointing out what a Nazi is?

You're either a terribly weak troll or grossly uninformed. Waving the flag of a group that killed millions of innocent men, women, and children is violence. (we all saw the flags in VA...)
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (399), southampton on Aug 19, 17 7:00 AM
American neo-nazis are nothing but a misfit clownish group of uneducated & powerless fools who pose zero threat to our society.
On the other hand the same can not be said for isis & the alt socialist left.
Any competent Civil War buff will tell you that a rebel statue never shot anyone.
Save our American History, all of it !!!
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 19, 17 7:58 AM
So it seems as if the lunatic left is ready to do battle in order to stifle free speech. We have no right not to be offended , I loath all that the Klan and neo Nazis stand for but I defend their right say it, there may come a time in the not too distant future when the radical left decides that they can't handle ANY speech that they deem offensive , quite a slippery slope to totalitarianism .
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Aug 19, 17 8:27 AM
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I think that this is not the case.

The 'freedom of speech' rallies have happened and continue to. Though there are just many louder voices who oppose the views of those speaking at these events ...and the opposition also exercises their right to free speech, much more loudly.

So yes, feel free to be a Nazi and speak out loud about it. But dont expect those around you to remain quiet.

Say it loud, you're racist and you're proud! ... expect some pushback.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (399), southampton on Aug 19, 17 11:06 PM
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The spineless Congressman cannot have it two ways. He supports this monster of a President who is tearing our country apart. But the Congressman clings to both sides of the fence and refuses to refute the Orange Orangutan's hate-filled agenda of catering to the only voters he has left: the radical right. 2018 cannot come soon enough.
By RSMMathews (2), BRIDGEHAMPTON on Aug 18, 17 11:48 AM
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I support our Congressman and our president. I'm just an average guy and not even close to falling into the category "the radical right."

If our country is being torn apart, it is because some have made it a choice to tear it apart.
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 18, 17 12:45 PM
The only people tearing this country apart are the butt hurt clowns in the liberal media and the pathetic PC snowflakes on the left who can not get over the fact that their pig of a candidate LOST. YOU people are the hate filled ones, a million angry little monsters, clawing and tearing at the country; you are no different then ISIS, blinded by your hate.
By Preliator Lives (238), Obamavillie on Aug 18, 17 2:44 PM
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Tired of winning yet. Please tell me again about your great healthcare policy. Lower deductibles, better coverage. Has Mexico's installment fee for the wall come in yet. Speaking of ISIS, weren't they supposed to be defeated by the great generalissimo banana republic in thirty days? tired of winning, yet? At what point do you realize he is an incompetent, classless loser playing celebrity apprentice with our government.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 18, 17 2:54 PM
what does 'butt hurt' mean?
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (399), southampton on Aug 18, 17 2:59 PM
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What you say is 100 % true but there is trouble making people on both sides for sure!
Aug 18, 17 8:24 PM appended by Erin 27 E
that was for you dear preliator
By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Aug 18, 17 8:24 PM
YO YO YO...BANNON IS GONE...GOD BLESS AMERICA!
By Toma Noku (579), Southampton on Aug 18, 17 12:52 PM
Trump's government celebrity apprentice back on, Bannon fired. What a s... show. This is what happens when you elect a reality show drama queen!
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 18, 17 1:00 PM
Can't wait for one of our resident Trumpcucks to come in and say how they never liked Bannon to begin with and they're glad he's gone. LMAO!!
By johnj (687), Westhampton on Aug 18, 17 1:16 PM
Glad he's back. Now I hope he doubles down on destroying the corrupt press.

Win the election. Check
Constitutional originalist in the SC. Check
Cut regulations and release the power of our economy. Check
Destroy the lying, corrupt, seditious press...... Make it hurt!

Welcome back to the front lines, General Bannon.

We've missed you!
Aug 18, 17 7:31 PM appended by They call me
Good news! Now Bannon can launch Breitbart TV. That would be the best weapon for getting out the truth. if we can get Breitbart TV going post Roger Ailes, as most of Fox declines and keeps going left, we can get a win here. Trump needs bannon's help now more than ever. I have faith he can help. MAGA!
By They call me (2143), southampton on Aug 18, 17 7:31 PM
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Brainwashed manchurian candidate! Making America Garbage Again!
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 18, 17 7:41 PM
I know thank god Moochelle and him moved out last year!
By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 18, 17 8:19 PM
Donnie Johnny Trump, Making America Garbage Again!! Must be Hillary's e-mails that's turned his whole administration into a s... show!
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 18, 17 11:05 PM
Eight years of socialist Obama will have screwed up this country for twenty years.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 19, 17 8:09 AM
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Deflecting from the orange orangutan doesn't work. You own this s...show. Here are two things you'll never get from the cheetoh, the buck stops here and I'm protecting the environment.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 19, 17 8:54 AM
Sounds like Trump has broken you too.
By SlimeAlive (625), Southampton on Aug 19, 17 9:10 AM
Why would I support him, he can't get anything done. Tell me Slime about his healthcare policy, lower premiums and better coverage. Tell me about his plan. ISIS defeated yet, according to Generalissimo banana republic would take thirty days. Mexico's installment for the wall come in yet. Nope, stupid is as stupid does. Broke, just getting started! Your little experiment will soon be over, honest and decent people will take back what was hijacked.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 19, 17 1:00 PM
The driver in Barcelona was a Robert E Lee statue. If we can just get a handle on the statues...
By SlimeAlive (625), Southampton on Aug 19, 17 9:09 AM
He hates these cans !!!!!!
Hahaha omg
By Sturgis (242), Southampton on Aug 19, 17 9:51 AM
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Bannon is now your worst enemy, not constrained by white house protocol or the press corps. Every inch of this has been choreographed.
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Aug 19, 17 4:52 PM
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BOSTON STRONG!!! END THE HATE!!!
By Toma Noku (579), Southampton on Aug 19, 17 5:00 PM
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Tim Pierce‏
@qwrrty

Y'all should hear about my experience with BLM at the Boston Anti-Nazi Rally. 1/
1:02 PM - 19 Aug 2017 from Arlington, MA




Tim Pierce‏ @qwrrty 6h6 hours ago

Replying to @qwrrty
First, BPD did an outstanding job of managing conflicts. 2/

Tim Pierce‏ @qwrrty 6h6 hours ago

Police escorted Nazis to and from the rally. Did not prevent interactions but stood close by to prevent ...more
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 19, 17 9:42 PM
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June. I think we got it.

If I may some up your last 2 years it's essentially this:

My team - good
Other team - bad

soon it'll be fall clean up time. Look out for rakes that have been left upside down. You step on that wrong and *thwap* right in the kisser.
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Aug 20, 17 7:23 AM
DONALD TRUMP PRAISES ANTI-HATE PROTESTERS IN BOSTON…

…‘WE WILL HEAL AND BE STRONGER’…

… REPORT: 27 ARRESTED, BOTTLES OF URINE THROWN AT POLICE…

I watched an old lady on fox today with an american flag ripped out of her hands by a "peaceful" protestor.. she got knocked down by this vile Marxist who wore a mask and hurt her leg... yayyy peaceful protestors!!!
By They call me (2143), southampton on Aug 20, 17 12:30 AM
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The following sounds oddly familiar. Wasn't Biff Tannen based on Trump?

"As a character, Zaphod Beeblerox is hedonistic and irresponsible, narcissistic almost to the point of solipsism, and often extremely insensitive to the feelings of those around him. In the books and radio series, he is nevertheless quite charismatic which causes many characters to ignore his other flaws. Douglas Adams claimed that he based Zaphod on an old friend of his from Cambridge called Johnny Simpson, who "had ...more
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 21, 17 1:48 AM
How ridiculous do libs look as the ''denounce hatred''. Sounds almost as dumb as when they explain they are ''pro education''.
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Aug 20, 17 7:21 AM
Here's a tune you won't hear on WLNG :

Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton,
Old times there are not forgotten.
Look away, look away, look away Dixie Land!
In Dixie's Land, where I was born in,
early on one frosty mornin'.
Look away, look away, look away Dixie Land!
I wish I was in Dixie, Hooray! Hooray!
In Dixie's Land I'll take my stand,
to live and die in Dixie.
Away, away, away down south in Dixie!
Away, away, away down south in Dixie!
There's ...more
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 20, 17 8:06 AM
No nazis served in the confederate army.
No confederates served in the nazi army.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 20, 17 8:54 AM
what's your point PW.

Racism is real.
Violence against bigots is real

man up and kiss your brother.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (399), southampton on Aug 20, 17 9:10 AM
He has no point, he never does, just a white supremacist sympathizer. Just another anti-american bigot.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 20, 17 8:14 PM
The point is that southerners are fine people and nazis are not.
Unlike mets fan, I don't hate white people.
Civil War buffs are not bigots.
The real American enemy is socialism, as avowed by mets fan.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 21, 17 8:44 AM
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I am white. I am a Civil War buff. Don't ever try to pull the Southern charade that the war was about state's rights. It was about states's rights to maintain slavery. Southerners who are white supremacists or white supremacist sympathizers are not "fine" people. Call me a socialist for supporting with my taxes our soldiers, police, teachers, and firemen. I do it gladly. I've never accepted a penny from the government. So what's your point now?
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 21, 17 9:06 AM
police, teachers, and firemen should be paid for by state taxes not Federal
By Ditch Bum (314), Water Mill on Aug 23, 17 11:47 AM
It is the job of the police to protect us from viloence, not the BLM or any other group. That's called vigilantism. First amendment right to free speech allows those we agree with as well as those we vehemently disagree with to put forth their positions. Violence begets violence. Where will it end?
By Taz (283), East Quogue on Aug 20, 17 10:24 AM
Who said anything close to BLM's job is to protect from violence?
Could you try and maybe resist the impulse to react with a groundless and ridiculous comment when your belief system is shown to be in error? Using your logic, no parent should protect a child, no sibling should protect another, no stranger should help someone in need. Who on earth thinks like that? What gets incorrectly asserted on this list is that BLM is committed to violence when in fact, it is based on MLK's non-violence ...more
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 20, 17 11:04 AM
Tell that to the families of the dead or injured cops in Dallas, NY, Florida and Pennsylvania. Videos of Boston show BLM confronting police. Protest, but do it separately. I responded to YOUR post from 9:42 pm last night.
By Taz (283), East Quogue on Aug 20, 17 11:30 AM
Vigilantism is a far cry from protecting one's own. Another example of extremism on the left..
By Taz (283), East Quogue on Aug 20, 17 11:33 AM
No one condones the violent outlier who commits crimes, but the outlier does not a movement make. BLM leaders routinely condemn violence against the police even though the root problem is a long history of racialized police violence. James Baldwin wrote about it in 1966. LA burned over it in 1992. To deny that is to take sides against the victims. And so rather than address racial violence in our criminal justice system, extremists will make victims the threat to justify violence against them, ...more
Aug 20, 17 1:35 PM appended by June Bug
Oh, and about that "left wing extremism", here are the actual statistics from the Anti-Defamation League: Murders by domestic extremists: Right wing 74% Islamic extremism 24% Left wing 2%
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 20, 17 1:35 PM
And the report goes on...
Aug 21, 17 7:59 AM appended by Mr. Snerdley
Though not the most lethal, in some ways the most troubling extremist-related murders that occurred in 2016 were the murders of police officers at the hands of black nationalists. Eight police officers were killed in two incidents in which extremists deliberately targeted police officers for murder. In July 2016, Micah Xavier Johnson, who had ties to black nationalist groups such as the New Black Panther Party, killed five police officers (and injured nine others) in Dallas, Texas, in an ambush attack aimed at police maintaining public order at a Black Lives Matter protest. That same month, Gavin Eugene Long ambushed and shot six police officers, three of them fatally, in Baton Rouge. Long was an adherent of black nationalism as well as the anti-government sovereign citizen movement. Both incidents were acts of retaliation against police officers in response to controversial police shootings of African-American men. The year 2016 was unusual in that right-wing extremists did not dominate the murder statistics, as they have each year for more than 30 years. Anti-government extremists and white supremacists were responsible for only a minority of extremist related deaths in 2016, though they did commit two triple homicides. These low figures also occurred during a year in which non-violent right-wing extremist activity was high, in large part due to agitation and propaganda by the so-called alt-right and other extremists in connection with the 2016 presidential election.
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 21, 17 7:59 AM
Wow June I'm surprised you're such a fan of MLK because it's not consistent with your anti Zionist feelings. I do however understand your affinity for BLM considering BLM is staunchly anti Israel. Which is also confusing because Arabs still enslave blacks.
By Sturgis (242), Southampton on Aug 20, 17 3:13 PM
The topic is tactics, not alliances.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 20, 17 6:27 PM
Ok whatever you say -insert eye roll here -....
I bet you hate it when the ice cream truck comes around....!!!
By Sturgis (242), Southampton on Aug 20, 17 10:06 PM
I believe in history. To take down these monuments is wrong... Next you will burn all the history books. Children don't even know about WW2 and Vietnam, go figure???
By knitter (869), Southampton on Aug 20, 17 5:45 PM
The statues are of pro-slavery figures erected post abolition to stick a finger in the eye of blacks and to make sure they knew who was "boss". They are a black mark on our history, and are being removed via the will of (enlightened) residents in the respective towns. They belong in museums, not on pedestals.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 20, 17 6:31 PM
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Dear knitter, descendants of Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, and Stonewall Jackson have said these statues should be taken down and put in a museum. Not to worry, Donnie Johnny Drumpf will be replacing them with statues of Vladimir Putin.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 20, 17 8:09 PM
Smash the glass cases containing your embalmed heroes Lenin, Stalin & Mao. !!!
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 21, 17 8:59 AM
Not my heroes, but your orange orangutan's friends.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 21, 17 9:08 AM
Ha! What the decedents Of Jefferson Davis actually said was we should have the conversation without all the hatred and violence and IF such statues are offensive to a large majority of the public they should be moved to a museum - but as we know, the large majority of the public wants them to stay. "The Confederate battle flag, in my estimation, has been hijacked by that group of racist individuals and should be in a museum which indicates it's a military flag and not a flag of the Confederate States ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 21, 17 9:52 AM
Has there been a vote, large majority according to whom? Are the statues a celebration of the American spirit or monument to white supremacists, who defended their right to own slaves. They fought for the worst reason possible, to keep others enslaved. Why this even has to be explained backs Kaepernick's reason for protest. That their is still a majority of a sub culture of hatred towards blacks. Judging by the posts on this site, you are completely consumed by your hatred that the ruination of ...more
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 21, 17 11:03 AM
It was the democrats who filibustered civil rights law, and started the KKK. You are on the wrong side on this. What has the democratic party done for blacks? Continued to enslave them through terrible education and dependance on food stamps and welfare.
By Taz (283), East Quogue on Aug 21, 17 11:20 AM
It is true that Southern democrats opposed Lincoln's anti-slave republican party. The Democrats after the war consisted of plantation owners and KKK. However, beginning with the Johnson administration, proposing the Civil rights Act, democrats began flipping to the Republican party. As of today, it is the conservative South that is Republican. Inside those Republicans are the KKK and black and Jew hating Nazi's. Not good to stereotype, as one of those so-called enslaved became POTUS. Not all Republicans ...more
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 21, 17 5:09 PM
Please stop hating white people already, you sound like Ali Velshi.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 22, 17 11:45 AM
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By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 22, 17 11:57 AM
to Sturgis:

Quote:
" ... BLM is staunchly anti Israel."
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A lie. Jonathan A. Greenblatt, CEO and National Director of the Anti-Defamation League, addressed this claim:

"[W]e are well aware that a SMALL MINORITY of leaders within the Black Lives Matter movement have supported anti-Israel — and at times anti-Semitic — positions. ... At the same time, we also know that many of the concerns raised by participants in the ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 20, 17 10:47 PM
Ridiculous to watch a wasp in the Hamptons try to descdribe the BLM movement to other wasps. The BLM Manifesto refers to genocide when describing Israel's actions towards Palestine. The utter ridiculousness of BLM trying to dictate national policy towards Israel is immeasurable.

The conflict between Jews and Blacks is deep rooted and far beyond some know-it-all drummer in Hampton Bays.

Jews and blacks in America have long danced around one another, at times feeling solidarity ...more
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Aug 21, 17 7:20 AM
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It also should be noted that the foundation on which BLM was organized is a flat out lie. The kid never yelled hands up don't shoot.
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Aug 21, 17 7:28 AM
EVERYONE! deep down knows this already, but yes worth being said once again!
By They call me (2143), southampton on Aug 21, 17 9:09 AM
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Aug 21, 7:02 AM EDT

POPE: RIGHTS OF MIGRANTS TRUMP NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERNS
BY NICOLE WINFIELD
ASSOCIATED PRESS

????????????????????????????????????????????????????
By They call me (2143), southampton on Aug 21, 17 9:13 AM


"While some immigrants certainly commit crimes, decades-worth of data indicate that immigrants commit far less and are far less likely to commit crime than native born Americans. Immigrants are also highly unlikely to commit acts of terrorism."
---www. businessinsider.com
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 21, 17 11:42 AM
Why is it that "outliers" and "small minorities" of leftist groups are the excuse for violence, but when it is those on the right, the entire group and extensions of them are all to blame? No logic there.
By Taz (283), East Quogue on Aug 21, 17 9:33 AM
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Why is it that you insert a falsehood inside a stupid question?
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 21, 17 11:22 AM
to even flow:

Quote:

" The BLM Manifesto refers to genocide when describing Israel's actions towards Palestine."
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A lie.

There is NO REFERENCE to Israel or to Palestine, directly or obliquely, in the "BLM Manifesto" (A Herstory of the #BlackLivesMatter Movement - Herstory - The Creation of a Movement") which readers can access at:

http[colon][forward slash][forward slash]blacklivesmatter[dot]com[forward slash]herstory[forward ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 21, 17 11:26 AM
Hahahaha wrong ....but that's to be expected.
By Sturgis (242), Southampton on Aug 21, 17 12:15 PM
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"Best regards" to the families of those injured/murdered by neo-nazis.
"That's too bad" upon hearing about our missing sailors.
How awesomely lovely.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 21, 17 1:50 PM
What difference does it make ?
By Biba (338), East Hampton on Aug 21, 17 2:07 PM
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What did 1 percent say about Lee Zeldin up above? Oh yes, "Trump's little man." Perfect. Nailed it, 1 percent.

The Honorable Lee and his daddy both need to learn that Nazis are not protected by the rules of normal discourse. Nazis are just wrong and evil, always and everywhere. There are no "good people" marching with the Nazis, not ever. If you're marching in the same column with the Nazis, that's it, you're wrong, case closed.

When Donald Trump defends the Nazis or those ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1740), Quiogue on Aug 21, 17 2:06 PM
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No one here is defending neo Nazis TB, no one! What is being danced around is the FACT that the leftists here have not come out against antifa and BLM violence, instead they have pulled some lame moral equivalency out of their posteriors and called it fact. deep down the far left is drooling over the idea a civil war.
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Aug 21, 17 5:53 PM
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Passionate fervor by any other name just would not be the sane.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 22, 17 2:12 AM
to Snerdley: Apparently you didn't get the memo stating that copying and pasting your appended post of August 21, 7:59AM is not allowed. Especially when it is fake propaganda and unsourced. (Amazing to encounter the plethora of lies presented as fact by the right wing. And the level of acceptance of same.)

Herewith some actual data:
Source: ABC Marist Poll:

For most Americans, there is only one side to what unfolded in Charlottesville. Few residents nationwide agree with ...more
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 21, 17 8:11 PM
to bigfresh:

Quote:

"What is being danced around is the FACT that the leftists here have not come out against antifa and BLM violence, instead they have pulled some lame moral equivalency out of their posteriors and called it fact. deep down the far left is drooling over the idea a civil war.
----------------------------------------

The only people making "lame moral equivalents" here are the Right-Wingers who, in the face of all the evidence, claim that the counter-protesters ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 21, 17 11:39 PM
Um, citing Snopes to buttress your position on anything political is akin to citing Elizabeth Warren or Maxine Watters.

But I ask again: who at Charlottesville were wearing black masks?



By Frank Wheeler (1729), Northampton on Aug 22, 17 12:16 AM
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Racist people calling other people racist.....
By Biba (338), East Hampton on Aug 22, 17 6:45 AM
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People need to learn how to COEXIST

Kindness matters, pass it on
By toes in the water (537), southampton on Aug 22, 17 6:50 AM
to Frank Wheeler:

Quote:

"Um, citing Snopes to buttress your position on anything political is akin to citing Elizabeth Warren or Maxine Watters.

But I ask again: who at Charlottesville were wearing black masks?"
------------------------------

Naturally, you will be able to provide citations to validate your opinion that Snopes is a "leftist" site?

Your "mask wearing" inference is a fallacy of hasty generalization. There were probably nose-pickers ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 22, 17 10:33 AM
Too much hate on this site. I'm done. Bye.
By Taz (283), East Quogue on Aug 22, 17 11:52 AM
Blacks who were never slaves are fighting whites who were never Nazis over a Confederate statue erected by southern Democrats because now Democrats can't stand their own history anymore......yet somehow it's Trumps fault!
By pigroast (10), East Quogue on Aug 22, 17 1:07 PM
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How many times do we have to over this. After the Civil War, southern white supremacists, plantation owners, KKK, rebs became democrats, They were not going to be Republicans, which was the anti-slavery party. The south voted democrat as a block till Democrat Lyndon Johnson enacted the Civil Rights Act. Since then southern democrats have flipped to the Republican party. So all those wearing red Make America Garbage Again hats in Charlottesville were KKK, white supremacists, and Nazi's. They love ...more
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 22, 17 8:12 PM
Pure myth that the parties switched. For starters, it was Republican Senator Everett Dirksen, not Democrat Lyndon Johnson, who pushed through the 1964 Civil Rights Act. In fact, Dirksen was instrumental to the passage of civil rights legislation and he also wrote the language for the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
Aug 22, 17 9:26 PM appended by Mr. Snerdley
Frances Rice writes about it so eloquently REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS DID NOT SWITCH SIDES ON RACISM By Frances Rice -Published on Nov 19, 2016 - From the time of its inception in 1854 as the anti-slavery party, the Republican Party has always been the party of freedom and equality for blacks. The Democratic Party is the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism. Democrats have been running black communities for the past 50+ years, and the socialist policies of the Democrats have turned those communities into economic and social wastelands. Democrats first used brutality and discriminatory laws to stop blacks from voting for Republicans. Democrats now use deception and government handouts to keep blacks from voting for Republicans. In his book, "Dreams From My Father," Obama described what he and other Democrats do to poor blacks as "plantation politics."
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 22, 17 9:26 PM
False, false, false, and false.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 22, 17 10:10 PM
Nice try, the Nazi's and white supremacists were wearing red Make America Garbage Again. So tell me those people vote democrat and voted for Hillary.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 8:04 AM
True, true, true and true June B. Please be more specific to your disagreement.

Huh? Mets fan, we're talking shift in political parties. NOT the actions of a relative sampling of knuckleheads. The reference to plantation politics by Obama is pretty telling.
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 8:16 AM
White conservatives in the South voted Democrat since the civil war, many whom are white supremacist sympathizers. Those same people are republicans now.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 8:24 AM
Oy Vey... but they are NOT indicative of the Republican Party. More from Mr. Rice - In his book “Dreams From My Father“, Obama wrote disdainfully about blacks who complain about being poor, yet continue to vote for Democrats — like Obama — who keep them poor. On page 147 of his book, Obama described what he and his fellow Democrats do to poor blacks as “plantation politics” when he wrote: “A plantation. Black people in the worst jobs. The worst housing. ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 9:07 AM
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Seems like one of those democrat voting blacks, plantation politics? Rose to become POTUS
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 3:07 PM
Congrats on the one. Don't forget, he didn't build it on his own. Harvard served him well.
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 24, 17 9:33 PM
Another campaign drivel speech last night. Even from a teleprompter, he repeated himself over and over. What a blithering idiot.Poor Drumpf, had a tough week. Keeps falling faster and faster in the polls.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 22, 17 8:15 PM
Doesn't drink, but repeats himself like an alcoholic.

And, don't you know that only Obama isn't allowed to use a teleprompter?
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 22, 17 8:25 PM
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Are you alleging the president, a man who does not drink, has alcoholic dementia, or is it simply a poor attempt to poke fun at people with a disease?
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 22, 17 9:36 PM
Most definitely medicated last night. Watch the tapes, watch the eyes. Words just short of slurred. In stark contrast to any performance to date which oftentimes appears to be fueled by amphetamines. Can't tell me anyone under such investigation who doesn't medicate with alcohol wouldn't resort to something-anything-else. Has history of being treated for depression. Also on that alopecia drug which has negative side affects. Maybe last night was a cocktail from the pharmacy.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 22, 17 9:46 PM
Most definitely? LOL. Thank you Dr. June Bug. I'll personally wait for the pee test, or Hillary the resident expert of medicating, to weigh in.
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 22, 17 9:51 PM
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hey Mets fan , get your real news right here only a quarter

As you read this remember Pres Trump is donating his paycheck. He gets nothing from us for all of this work. nothing !

**ON TRADE**

1. KILLED TPP
2. $350+ billion deal with Saudi Arabia ($110 billion in arms $250 billion in trade/investment) creating 100,000’s of jobs in both countries, historic.
3. Pulled out of PARIS ACCORD
4. Had a major victory on sugar exports from Mexico, made Mexico ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1517), southampton on Aug 22, 17 10:43 PM
Please supply the source(s) from where you have plagiarized this material that we may be permitted to fact-check its accuracy. Certainly you have no objections with the flood tide of "Fake News" the Donald continues to warn about.
By VOS (987), WHB on Aug 23, 17 3:32 AM
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Nice cut and paste of useless propaganda that you swallow whole as truth. Please tell me unDe about the orangutan's healthcare policy, who knew that some parts take 60% to repeal, who knew? His words. Tell me again about ISIS, defeated? Mexico paying for the wall? Of course not. Pulled out of Paris accord, climate change is a hoax. You know who embraces climate change, Russia. Northern sea lanes previously frozen are speeding up trade and cutting costs. They're growing crops in areas never seen ...more
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 8:15 AM
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wow very impressive list, he has been busy working behind the lines each and every day and will continue to fight for the people who elected him in a controlled steadfast way

go trump
By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Aug 23, 17 10:20 AM
A cultist posts a cut and paste, and not a peep out of the heretofore allergic Erin 27 E. Must be the humidity. Not to mention her/their obliviousness to the fact that everything on the ludicrous list is actually harmful to her and the rest of us.
"Controlled steadfast"? WTH? Is this some kind of attempt at literacy? Laughing and smh.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 23, 17 11:37 AM
Alcoholism is not a disease. The idea that it is is purely asinine.

Very poor attempt on your part to try and use some idiotic measure of guilt or finger pointing to make me look like a bad bad guy. Reflects very poorly on your sensibilities.

I thought you were ledge conservatives were the tough ones...
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 23, 17 3:13 PM
Judging from the defensiveness we've confirmed it was intended to poke fun at those with a disease. I think we've hit a new level (low) of self-riotousness. Tell the AMA it's not a disease. The official National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism would disagree with as well.
Aug 23, 17 3:30 PM appended by Po Boy
So if it's NOT a disease Mr. Z, what IS alcoholism? I can't wait for the answer. Let me guess, no self control or will power? Addicts across the world are waiting!
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 23, 17 3:30 PM
How the hell is "everything on the ludicrous list actually harmful to her and the rest of us"? Being pro America is a good thing.
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Aug 23, 17 4:00 PM
Alcoholism is a substance abuse disorder. Dengue fever is a disease. ALS is a disease.

You don't choose to contract a disease. Swallowing alcohol is a choice. It is not caused by bacteria, virus, or genetic defect.
Aug 23, 17 6:39 PM appended by Mr. Z
P.S. "Alcoholism" is the direct result of self inflicted injury, i.e., swallowing POISON. It does not qualify.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 23, 17 6:39 PM
Ohhh, so you were poking fun at people with DISORDERS. My bad even though the AMA, National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism and even AA would say otherwise. If you think a person "chooses" to drink themselves into a slow death over the course of countless years while wreaking havoc to themselves and families, you've either A) never met an alcoholic or B) have serious anger toward someone who was and refuse to accept it for what it was.
Aug 23, 17 7:29 PM appended by Po Boy
People DON'T do that with poison. Alcoholism most certainly IS a disease. It is considered a disease of the brain.
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 23, 17 7:29 PM
Ethanol is classified as a poison. It is an antiseptic. It is a psychoactive drug. It is a depressant. It is a solvent. It is flammable, toxic, and so are it's metabolites such as acetaldehyde.

Sorry, but swallowing poison is a choice.
Aug 23, 17 7:43 PM appended by Mr. Z
Addiction is not a disease. It is at the very least a bad habit which damages one's life, and the lives of those around them. If you call addiction a disease, so is "falling in love" thanks to neuroplasticity.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 23, 17 7:43 PM
P.S. Don't people tend to mock poor lifestyle choices? Yeah, they do.

Why else do we have "Darwin Awards"?
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 23, 17 8:06 PM
Well that is one theory. What you are missing is the distinction between choosing to stop and the ability to make the choice which is driven by compulsion - so no, absent your initial comment to the president, people don't mock poor life style choices. That is their choice - live with the consequences. HOWEVER - alcohol is referred to as "cunning, baffling and powerful" in AA circles for a reason.

Also ethanol is NOT a poison, but is classified as alcohol in its basic form - it can be ...more
Aug 24, 17 10:09 AM appended by Mr. Snerdley
Its interesting that while the Baldwin Research concludes alcoholism isnt a disease stating it could be counter productive to the health of the individual, countless MILLIONS have been relieved of their alcoholic compulsion by accepting the premise of AA, the AMA and NIAAA that it is a disease.
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 24, 17 10:09 AM
An antiseptic is a poison. There are a bevy of poisons which are not fatal in small doses. Try again.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 24, 17 2:16 PM
From Wiki: Ethanol, also called alcohol, ethyl alcohol, and drinking alcohol, is the principal type of alcohol found in alcoholic beverages. So no, in it's purest form, ethanol is not a poison.

We've yet to see any from you Mr. Z on the classification of alcoholism as a disease by authorities such as the AMA, AA or the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism. Tick tock...
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 24, 17 6:36 PM
Is ethanol lethal.

Yes or no.
Aug 24, 17 8:49 PM appended by Mr. Z
Perhaps you should reference the MSDS for ethanol...
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 24, 17 8:49 PM
P.S. Ethanol is a Class 2 MDSD hazard, 1 being the worst and 4 being the least.

I thought you connedservatives were smart.
Aug 24, 17 10:31 PM appended by Mr. Z
Pardon, MSDS. Brain moved faster than fingers.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 24, 17 10:31 PM
Water is lethal if you drink enough of it.

Meanwhile, one can't wonder how far you've wandered off the farm. Come home brown cow! Tell us more about how alcoholism isn't a disease. Please refute the AMA, AA and NIAAA... PLEASE!
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 24, 17 11:39 PM
No, that's called sodium dilution.
Aug 24, 17 11:50 PM appended by Mr. Z
In case you missed it, I already did. Neuroplasticity, Class 2 Health Hazard. Antiseptic. Known carcinogen. Organ toxicity. Mutagenic effects. Human teratogen. If alcoholism is a disease, so is "falling in love".
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 24, 17 11:50 PM
P.S. It's actually rather curious that an alleged conservative would embrace such a liberal ideal. I thought you were the tough crowd.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 24, 17 11:57 PM
Your tasteless comments to those with a disease aside, being drunk and being in love while having a similar chemical reaction, the compulsion that drives an alcoholic is drastically different and which is characterized by the disease.
Aug 25, 17 8:57 AM appended by Mr. Snerdley
You are demonstrating the basic inability to discern the effect of how the human body processes the drug once ingested vs. the root cause that continually leads an alcoholic to have a compulsion to drink. Just as you've done with the characterization of alcoholism as a substance abuse disorder. While true, that is the end state clinical condition.
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 25, 17 8:57 AM
Basing a disease model on the work of Dr. Benjamin Rush is speculative at best. Consensus is changing.

There was a time when it was believed that the moon had no influence on keeping the Earth geologically active. Now we are researching and discovering the.opposite.

And Mr.Snerdley whining about a "tasteless comment" indeed takes the.proverbial cake, LOL
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 25, 17 2:56 PM
Medical Dictionary Definition. Alcoholism or alcohol dependence is defined by the American Medical Association (AMA) as "a primary, chronic disease with genetic, psychosocial, and environmental factors influencing its development and manifestations."
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 25, 17 5:34 PM
Yeah and bloodletting was once an acceptable medical treatment.

Nothing like the Victorian Age scientific mentality.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 25, 17 6:57 PM
Yeah, we all know how antiquated the American Medical Association is.
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 26, 17 11:46 AM
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Yeah, science from 1956 is SO up to snuff...
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 27, 17 6:06 AM
I thought science...was...science and it doesn't change over time, it just is? I'm pretty sure the human brain and overall physiology hasn't changed since 1956...well, then again we had 8 years of Bill Clinton, 8 years of Obama, inept Democratic Congress'... inept GOP Congress'...Washington establishment run amuck and a contested election in 2000 that set it all off....maybe the human brain HAS changed?
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 28, 17 9:19 AM
President Dwight D. Eisenhower Rocked !!!!!!
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 28, 17 9:28 AM
So the great orange cheetoh, with his vast military experience, smarter than all the other generals, with his great instincts is going to defer to the military. Win or lose, the orangutan will never take responsibility. If it doesn't go well, he already made his excuses that the Afghans didn't step up. He is just a publicist for himself, he stands for nothing. Whatever raises the polls is all that counts. One big game of government apprentice. The only problem, young men will die for his ratings ...more
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 22, 17 8:24 PM
MO Lt. Governor Calls for Special Session to Remove Democrat Chappelle Nadal from Office

Aug 23rd, 2017 8:16 am by Jim Hoft Missouri State Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal hoped for the assassination of President Trump in a comment last Thursday.
Aug 23, 17 11:27 AM appended by 27dan
This is why decent folks get enraged at politicians. This low life Senator, isn't going to resign. She's not just gonna give up her salary, and her perks. She needs to be treated like the trash that she is, and tossed out into the street. If Missouri is lucky, she might wind up in prison.
By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 23, 17 11:27 AM
Now little child-liar-in-chief Trumpelthinskin needs a rally to soothe his bruised ego. Did you ever see anything like this pathetic baby.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 22, 17 8:30 PM
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GO TRUMP MAGA USA USA USA ! WE LOVE YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP !
By They call me (2143), southampton on Aug 22, 17 10:19 PM
Here is the shrewd great businessman, the Art of the Deal, please fellas we need to pass this (on healthcare) Making America Garbage Again
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 8:21 AM
if anyone wants to know their playbook just exposed:
1. Call Trump racist and unhinged and have CNN and MSNBC keep repeating
2. Use Facebook and Google as well as fake news to spreead the word daily
If anyone wants to see it it is on top at Whatfinger News right now.
it is a coordinated effort and an actual meeting was help by MSNBC, CNN and other socialist and Marxist groups and Free beacon got a hold of one fo the docs, Fast video on it all at that site I mentioned

Now ...more
By They call me (2143), southampton on Aug 23, 17 9:58 AM
20000+ PATRIOTS at the Trump Rally inside. Paid "protesters" and domestic terrorist groups on the outside. Draw your own conclusion..... MAGA wins all the time.
Aug 22, 17 10:34 PM appended by 27dan
Correction I just read that convention center holds 29,000 GO DONALD !
By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 22, 17 10:34 PM
Patriotism is the last resort of a scoundrel.

~ Samuel Johnson
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 23, 17 3:01 PM
Liberals and their antifa/BLM storm troopers are nothing more than a bunch of spoiled brats unable to deal with being told NO and pitching a tantrum.
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Aug 23, 17 7:00 AM
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to bigfresh:

Quote:

"Liberals and their antifa/BLM storm troopers are nothing more than a bunch of spoiled brats unable to deal with being told NO and pitching a tantrum."
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You and your fellow true believers are enthralled fools who long ago surrendered the last shred of your reason to belief. The only "storm troopers" in Charlottesville were your ideological brethren, the Nazis. Your lying implications won't change the non-violent ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 23, 17 7:20 AM
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By joe hampton (2905), The Hamptons on Aug 23, 17 9:51 AM
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By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Aug 24, 17 3:40 PM
Phoenix sholud have given Trumpelthinskin a pacifier, that's all he really needed and sent him on his way.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 8:44 AM
we loved how president trump finally called the msm, rino elites and antifa garbage out last night and we love donald trump !
By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Aug 23, 17 10:17 AM
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As you can see by the usual leftists posters above, they got nothing but sick delusional imagination and must have suffered great trauma early in life. Now watch the name calling escalate. They have the nerve to call the living descendants of those who fought against and defeated hitler, and and his genocides, names like nazi & white supremacist. They really can't ever be taken seriously. The leftists are already in the garbage heap of history & they don't yet know it but they do breath their own ...more
Aug 23, 17 10:48 AM appended by pw herman
JUST CHECK OUT mets fan's RECORD OF DELETED FOUL MOUTHED COMMENTS ABOVE !!!
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 23, 17 10:48 AM
How do you get through the day with all the injustices and degradations you suffer every day as a white man
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 11:56 AM
White guilt much ? lol i for one certainly cant be accused of having white privilege so pleassssse stop peddling that garbage round here good man. lol
By Undocumented Democrat (1517), southampton on Aug 23, 17 12:05 PM
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As a Russian, neo-Nazi, white supremacist sympathizer that you are, you should in insulted as well.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 2:55 PM
So your saying those that the descendants of those that defeated Hitler, had no problem walking alongside neo-Nazi's? I was surrounded by WWII heroes as a boy. They would never having marched alongside Nazi's, probably would have bullets up their butt.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 2:59 PM
Probably would have shoot bullets up their butt.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 3:02 PM
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By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 24, 17 9:27 AM
METS FAN COMMENTS ARE ALL TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE !!!!!!
Aug 24, 17 10:20 AM appended by pw herman
UNDOCUMENTED DEMOCRAT ROCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 24, 17 10:20 AM
Snowflake
By johnj (687), Westhampton on Aug 25, 17 4:51 PM
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It really is laughable... we are now in our tenth day with no mention of 'Russia Collusion' but 24/7 racism is the new clarion call of the far left nuts.

Any sane person can see this for what it is !
Aug 23, 17 11:10 AM appended by joe hampton
a bunch of paid off sore losers on a witch hunt still throwing a temper tantrum.
By joe hampton (2905), The Hamptons on Aug 23, 17 11:10 AM
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Exclusive: Top Trump aide's email draws new scrutiny in Russia inquiry

By Manu Raju and Marshall Cohen, CNN
Updated 7:31 PM ET, Wed August 23, 2017

Washington (CNN) Congressional investigators have unearthed an email from a top Trump aide that referenced a previously unreported effort to arrange a meeting last year between Trump campaign officials and Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to sources with direct knowledge of the matter.

The aide, Rick Dearborn, ...more
Aug 23, 17 8:22 PM appended by Mr. Z
"Putin wants to host the Trump team when the time is right," Papadopoulos wrote in an email on April 27 to then-campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, according to the Post. On that same day, Trump delivered his foreign policy speech at the Mayflower Hotel.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 23, 17 8:22 PM
YUUUUUGE.
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 23, 17 9:11 PM
There's been a lot of talk about McMaster lately, and yes, he needs to go, but it's for more important to get Kushner and Ivanka out if the White House. Jared is not qualified or suited to be in WH. Trump needs to let him go NOW!
We should stop giving money away to foreign country's until we can pay our own bills!

Trump's Hurting The Movement That Elected Him With Ivanka & Jackazz!
By Ditch Bum (314), Water Mill on Aug 23, 17 12:02 PM
We'll see when Mueller comes back with his report. The only one changing the subject is the great deflector-in-chief. Bad, bad week for our incompetent cheetoh. Now he has to have a speech, that says he's winning wars. Anything for the ratings. One big game of government apprentice. He stands for nothing and the buck never stops with him. Little child needed his rah-rah from his zombie deplorables to make him feel loved again. Most children have more fortitude than this orangutan. What shiny object ...more
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 23, 17 12:04 PM
The lying lunatic's days are numbered.
Make no mistake--this cynical discrediting of the press is pre-emptive. Create skepticism where none should exist. All in service to him when the reporting comes in re: his crimes and those of his spawn. (And the contradictions are laughable---knock CNN, then in the next breath complain because they're not covering him.)
Profanely berating McConnell (another horror with Russian connections) for failing to PROTECT him from investigation ...more
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 23, 17 1:07 PM
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PATHOLOGICAL LIAR'S PANTS ON FIRE

Trump’s Phoenix Fiction
FactCheck.org
Eugene Kiely
1 hr ago


Summary
President Donald Trump delivered a raucous, error-filled speech in Arizona on Aug. 22, just days after he was uniformly criticized for blaming “both sides” for the deadly violence at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

The president gave a revisionist account of his remarks about Charlottesville, exaggerated his ...more
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 23, 17 6:50 PM
"create skepticism where none should exist"?

You can't be serious.

You care telling us roughly how many days he has left since you think they are numbered?
By SlimeAlive (625), Southampton on Aug 24, 17 10:43 AM
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In Cleveland there is a statue of a very well known local hero named Bill DeWall. I wonder if that will have to come down.
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Aug 24, 17 11:02 AM
DOSSIER IS MUELLER ROADMAP.
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK......
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 24, 17 11:09 AM
Not even the caps make you sound like you know what's happening around you.
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Aug 24, 17 3:38 PM
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This made me laugh...
By Sturgis (242), Southampton on Aug 24, 17 4:00 PM
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I watched the fighting in Charlottesville and could not tell who was who. After getting facts, learned one group had permit to organize, the other did not. Police allowed the group without permit to go unchecked. There is no such thing as peaceful provoking or peaceful instigating. The mayor should be removed from office for not allowing police to arrest counter protesters.

Libs want to limit who gets a permit to organize. They can’t. United States allows groups to organize by scheduling ...more
By pigroast (10), East Quogue on Aug 24, 17 2:51 PM
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Ten sailors die, not one mention of this from the great orange patriot. Always a phony, never sincere. All that matters is the ratings. He stands for nothing. National embarrassment on a daily basis.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 24, 17 7:37 PM
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Vice Adm. Joseph Aucoin, the three-star commander of the U.S. 7th Fleet was relieved of command on Wednesday by President Donald Trump.
What mets fan does daily will make him blind soon.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 25, 17 8:20 AM
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Yea Mets and Obummer was silent when cops were killed ....
What difference does it make ?
By Sturgis (242), Southampton on Aug 24, 17 8:14 PM
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As always deflecting from their child-liar-in-chief. Donnie Johnnie was supposed to be the great patriot, remember. Only when it's good for ratings Blind are supporters of the ignoramous orange cheetah. 2016 We will build a wall, and Mexico is paying for it. 2017 we will build a wall if even we have to shut down the government. Just how do you get through the day with all the injustices and degradations you suffer P..w...
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 25, 17 8:31 AM
Feel a little better after getting all of that seething hatred out? How can let one person ruin your life? It's identical to August 25, 2016.
By SlimeAlive (625), Southampton on Aug 25, 17 8:36 AM
Like most, I love my Country and favor justice and upgrades for all.
Notably, your North Korean allies are mighty quiet as of late.
Without Obama, it's a such a wonderful World !!!!!!
Bolshevik Socialism is on the run once again.
Squint mets fan, squint.
Aug 25, 17 8:41 AM appended by pw herman
" I SUFFER NOT !!!!!! " PW HERMAN 08/25/2017
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 25, 17 8:41 AM
How am I deflecting? You make a statement then someone may or may not respond. That's how this works.
Not sure however why you think the current POTUS is able to repair the utter destruction committed by his predecessor.....it's going to take a little longer than 7 months.
By Sturgis (242), Southampton on Aug 25, 17 9:48 AM
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your post makes no sense.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 25, 17 4:33 PM
What does Trump not honoring ten dead sailors have to do with Barack Obama? that's deflecting! Your current ignoramus as President boasts how great a patriot he is. He didn't mention the sailors because that would be a blight on his record as commander-in-chief, and as he boasts with him as commander-in-chief the military is running like a top. Like I said, the buck never stops with him, always a phony, never sincere, and never ever his fault despite his many shortcomings.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 25, 17 4:41 PM
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By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 25, 17 4:49 PM
Give me a break Mets , my comment makes perfect sense.
By Sturgis (242), Southampton on Aug 25, 17 11:09 PM
As part of their non-stop Trump-bashing, NPR regularly criticizes President Trump for being so slow to fill many open government positions. As if it's a requirement. Or good for America. They refuse to report that Trump is intentionally NOT filling them in order to cut waste and benefit taxpayers. That wouldn't be consistent with their anti-Trump narrative. For more than eighty years, beginning with FDR’s New Deal, Americans have witnessed a constant increase in the size and scope of the ...more
By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 25, 17 1:00 PM
And trump's "government' has become a disaster. Everything matters. Size included.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 25, 17 4:26 PM
"Oil companies upset that Trump regulations rollbacks will cause more oil spills, leaving the oil companies to be blamed"


Oil and gas allies to Trump: Slow down

While the industry has generally cheered the administration's approach, there are growing worries that its efforts could backfire.
By Ben Lefebrve 08/25/2017 05:11 AM EDT
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 25, 17 8:32 PM
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Breaking: TRUMP PARDONS ARPAIO

Well, at least they have something in common...

Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio Failed To Investigate Over 400 Sex Crimes, Including Molestations Of Undocumented Children

By Tanya Somanader
DEC 5, 2011, 4:20 PM

“I’ve known Jeff [Epstein] for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt ...more
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 26, 17 12:53 AM
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Long Live Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio !!!!!!!!
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 26, 17 11:31 AM
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Your crazy you completely over looked Bill Clinton's trips with Epstein to his private island on his plane nick named the Lolita express. Trump has stated Jeffery is up to no good and his earlier comments were before everyone new about what he does with underage woman. Whats Bills excuse Mr Z ???
By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 26, 17 4:33 PM
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Bills excuse is " He did not have S* relations with that woman"

fill in the blank so many to choose from _ _ _ _ _ !
By They call me (2143), southampton on Aug 26, 17 4:40 PM

Written like an illiterate, and spoken like a kindergartener, 27 dan.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 26, 17 5:07 PM
to 27 dan and They call me: Frank Conniff and John Hodgman liked
Oliver Willis‏Verified account @owillis 23h23 hours ago

There's a place in hell for people who said Clinton was "just as bad."
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 26, 17 9:52 PM
Your point is useless tripe.

You excuse Trump, but b**** about Clinton. If you think Trump didn't know, you're a bigger idiot than he is. Problem is we live in the present, and Clinton isn't in the Oval Office. To quote an old orator, "Goodness is not being better than the worst".
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 27, 17 6:04 AM
There the left goes with the name calling again. On this site if a conservative calls a liberal an idiot in print, their post is immediately removed. It seems the moderator has some very small cohones.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 27, 17 8:57 AM
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'the left' ... you are the one name calling
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (399), southampton on Aug 27, 17 10:05 AM
adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ? YOU REALLY DON'T EXPECT US TO BELIEVE YOU ARE THAT FRAGILE?
By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 27, 17 2:12 PM
"The Left" eats tripe every night while "The Right" eats its spinach !!!
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 28, 17 9:32 AM
Reading the litany of the entirety of Arpaio's sadistic cruelty and general criminal outrageousness--only a fraction of which he was convicted-- is enough to make one's eyes bleed. And before he was even sentenced, he is unconstitutionally pardoned by another criminal, one who took an oath to uphold and execute the law and who fancies himself Mr. Law and Order.
A complete misuse of the power to pardon, and the frightening act of a tinpot dictator ignoring the rule of law.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 26, 17 1:28 PM
I remember how upset you were when Bill Clinton pardoned his brother for dealing coke or obama for pardoning over 2,900 criminals. An 85 year old law ENFORCEMENT official was never going to prison. What's most telling is you sounding like you know what you are talking about with palpable seething hatred after no more experience with any of it except through the media that uses you.
Aug 27, 17 6:36 AM appended by SlimeAlive
typo. s/b 1900
By SlimeAlive (625), Southampton on Aug 27, 17 6:36 AM
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Sadistic cruelty is having to listen to or read anything that comes out of the shriveling brain of a political leftist.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 27, 17 8:51 AM
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"And I am worried that even those who detest Trump and are appalled by this pardon do not entirely appreciate the depth of Arpaio’s evil, or understand quite how indefensible what Donald Trump just has done is. Frankly I think even Trump may not fully realize the extent of the wrongdoing that he has just signaled his approval of. And I think it’s very important to be clear: the things Joe Arpaio is nationally infamous for, the immigration crackdown and the tent city, these are only ...more
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 27, 17 10:25 AM
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By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 27, 17 2:16 PM
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Long Live 85 year old Joe Arpaio.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 30, 17 8:10 AM
trump Tweet: "Thank you, Arizona. Beautiful turnout of 15,000".
"Capacity for event space was 4200 people. At final count 4,169 attended". ---Phoenix Fire Department
Res Ipsa Loqitur.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 26, 17 5:11 PM
President Donald Trump indicated he spoke to about 15,000 people inside the Phoenix Convention Center at his rally Tuesday evening.
City of Phoenix spokeswoman Julie Watters on Thursday morning said that many people showed up for the rally but not all were able to enter.
"I can confirm the overall number of people who came to the rally was approximately 15,000," Watters said in an email. "There were more than 10,000 inside and there were approximately between 4,500 to 5,000 outside who were ...more
By SlimeAlive (625), Southampton on Aug 27, 17 6:38 AM
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We love you president trump
By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Aug 27, 17 2:18 PM
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Well then, you are a very poor judge of character, decency, and honesty. Narcissism, lying, boastfulness, misogyny and xenophobia are not qualities to be admired. These certainly are not characteristics you strive for as an American.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 28, 17 12:20 PM
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Well with the exception to the xenophobia,which by the way Trump does not have, you perfectly describe Hillary Rodham Clinton. Of course she's not xenophobic, she wants to bring every piece of garbage into this country without checking their backgrounds. Because it was more important to fill her promises to some of the most disgusting people on the planet , than to keep America safe.
By Sturgis (242), Southampton on Aug 28, 17 9:12 PM
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By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 30, 17 8:18 AM
Why are you bringing up Hillary? Is she President? Why are you always deflecting? We're talking about the child-liar-in-chief. You know the incompetent orange cheetoh. Who couldn't get healthcare passed. Who keeps lying about Mexico paying for a wall. Isis still in the field after he said he would defeat them in thirty days.
By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 30, 17 3:57 PM
Seems the "peaceful" fascist "ant-fascists" were at it again last night.

Anarchy in Berkeley: A hundred black-clad antifascists with 'no hate' signs storm rally, pepper spray leader of conservative Patriot Prayer group and clash with cops
•Ten have been arrested after skirmishes on Sunday between competing rallies in Berkeley, California
•Thousands of protesters joined a left-wing 'Rally Against Hate' march in the college town
•They descended on a handful ...more
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 28, 17 10:59 AM
Just the left's storm troopers hating against hate, freaking hypocrites! Care to defend your comrades in arms JuneZ, Mets Fan , HH?
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Aug 28, 17 12:28 PM
Crickets as usual
By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 28, 17 9:07 PM
to Po Boy, bigfresh & 27dan:

Antifa is indefensible (and it sure ISN'T "L"iberal.) It is also an insignificant minority amidst the thousands of peaceful protesters.

The Right-Wing, however, has falsely implied that Antifa's behavior is typical of ALL protesters' behavior (including entirely blameless organizations like BLM.)

You finally find something that is an embarrassment to the Left-Wing (after years of transparently fraudulent Right-Wing propaganda) and then ruin ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 28, 17 10:17 PM
BULL!!! Antifa and BLM are violent, hate filled and bigoted movements.

One would be wise to NOT equate ALL to anything...that includes TRUMP SUPPORTERS an the police. But that is exactly what they do.
Aug 28, 17 10:28 PM appended by Po Boy
To be clear the vast majority of Antifa IS violent, hate filled and bigoted, BLM is hate filled and bigoted with violence evident by past incidents and dangerous rhetoric.Trump supporters by and large are NOT violent, hate filled nor bigoted, but the are treated as such by the Left.
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 28, 17 10:28 PM
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During the press conference today, President Trump listed all the criminals that were pardoned by Bubba and 0 bama. It was excellent.
By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 28, 17 9:11 PM
To Slime Alive who posted some serious unsourced excrement re: turnout for trump in Phoenix:

Trump Punishes Longtime Aide After Angry Phoenix Speech, Sources Say
By Jennifer Jacobs and Kevin Cirilli
Bloomberg News
August 28, 2017, 7:41 PM EDT
George Gigicos removed as president’s rally organizer
Sparse crowd put Trump in foul mood before delivering remarks

Donald Trump was in a bad mood before he emerged for a confrontational speech in Arizona last week.

TV ...more
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 28, 17 9:27 PM
to Po Boy:

Quote:

"BULL!!! Antifa and BLM are violent, hate filled and bigoted movements. ... BLM is hate filled and bigoted with violence evident by past incidents and dangerous rhetoric."
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Is there no vile defamation to which you will not stoop, Po Boy?

First you equate BLM with Antifa, making no attempt to substantiate that non-existent connection. Then you underhandedly level an accusation of "violence" against BLM in ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 29, 17 1:12 AM
Deplorable. Black Lives Matter and/or those identifying with BLM participate at the same events as Antifa - protesting side by side... In UNISON, violence* and all. Did you miss that portion of the Charlottesville footage?

Where are the so called moderate democrats - you know, the significant majority you've referred to - condemning Antifa and BLM for the violence, dangerous rhetoric and bigoted views?? You can't even suggest that ALL lives matter without blow back.


*Black ...more
Aug 29, 17 9:12 AM appended by Po Boy
And please hat, you keep parading that worn out, disproven citation which highlights ONE event where video was used at another event - all the while - IGNORING the countless examples showing BLM most certainly is VIOLENT.
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 29, 17 9:12 AM
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Provocation and reaction to provocation are two different things. Non violent protest is not equal to violent protest. Let us step away from the abyss.
By dfree (316), hampton bays on Aug 29, 17 9:19 AM
to Po Boy:

Bogus tripe.

The article that you cite attributes violence committed by unknown individuals to BLM, without any factual support. Ditto Charlottesville, where Right-Wing "eyewitnesses" likewise ignorantly blame violence on BLM "'terrorists' ... and other genetic refuse"*.

You are citing prejudicial opinion as fact, a familiar Right-Wing trope.

Finally, as I noted to your colleague, Mr. Snerdley (supra), it's not enough just to read the TITLE of a ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 29, 17 10:21 AM
Unbelievable. It sure doesn't take you long to migrate off to tangential topics. I never once said in my point that BLM was responsible for what transpired in Charlottsiville, what i said was "protesting side by side... In UNISON, violence and all." Who started it.... who cares. I guarantee you whatever you read the truth is in the middle* with ALL SIDES BEARING RESPONSIBILITY (including local authorities). For every "first hand account saying it was the KKK, you'll find one stating it was Antifa. ...more
Aug 29, 17 2:33 PM appended by Po Boy
Further disbelief... And as far your flimsy Snopes citation goes... The claim is simple: "Black Lives Matter protesters in Baton Rouge chanted calls for "dead cops ... now" shortly before three officers were killed in that city." BATON ROUGE....one video that portrayed violence attributed to violence that took place in BATON ROUGE. Fine in didn't....countless other examples show BLM IS violent.
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 29, 17 2:33 PM
Me wonders how this would fly if we replaced the BLM with the KKK.

"The article that you cite attributes violence committed by unknown individuals to BLM.."
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 30, 17 8:18 AM
Boy the world sure could lean a lot from Texas... just look how they handle themselves in a disaster, very composed and civil to each other regardless of race or gender. Those people are true Americans. Could you imagine the looting and anarchy if this was... shall we say ? Baltamore...Texans are just showing the rest of the country and those Communist idiots in Berkeley, Phoenix, Boston, and Charlottesville what being an American really means....God Bless America!!!
By joe hampton (2905), The Hamptons on Aug 29, 17 10:29 AM
to 27 Dan: Re: Arpaio pardon.
Outrageous on sooo many levels with one exception which is that any pardon carries imputation of guilt, and an acceptance of guilt. Therefore, trump asserts, and Arpaio admits, guilt.
trump provided zero facts to show an unjust conviction to back up his pardon.
The cases he cited were commutations of sentences, NOT pardons.
Citing past "pardons" is not a defense (try using "others have done the same thing" as an excuse ...more
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 29, 17 12:24 PM
To June , Sheriff Joe made no apologies for the way he up held the LAW !

Nor do I make any apologies to you !

The good people of Maricopa County elected Joe every time because they were fed up with ILLEGALS crossing into there town and thumbing there nose at the LAW!

When ICE refused to come and get these CRIMINALS he held them the best he could to stop them from over running his town. Obama and Eric fast and furious Holder did not like this. No surprise there.
By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 29, 17 2:47 PM
You might "like" his racist and sadistic behavior, but decent human beings would not. Including the "good people" of Maricopa County who voted him out, and GWB who initiated an investigation that lasted through the Obama years and into the trump administration which, despite his fellow fascist trump's attempt to quash, convicted him.
"Holding them the best he could" involved racial profiling and torturous violation of civil rights laws up to and including forcing a woman to give birth ...more
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 29, 17 7:53 PM
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No decent human being would share the leftist, socialist, bolshevik, anarchist beliefs that your side has, that's for $#it sure.
In the end it's the garbage heap of history for that kind of vile comradery.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 29, 17 8:05 PM
Hey June, heres a news flash for you black lives matter is a racist organization because they hold events for blacks only and that is the definition of racism. so I ask you do you "like" that behavior ? All the man did was enforce the law and when I C E refused to come pick them up like Dan said he kept them off the streets. He was the Sheriff and like it or not that title gives him the power to do what he did!
By Ditch Bum (314), Water Mill on Aug 29, 17 8:48 PM
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By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 29, 17 9:23 PM
Yes, but if you had bothered to read my comment you would see it was not referencing Americans.
By Ditch Bum (314), Water Mill on Aug 30, 17 7:42 AM
to bigfresh:
Opposing fascism is good. (Eisenhower, Patton, Churchill, Marshall)
Violence is never good. (Including war fought to defeat it)
Stands to reason that if fascists cease to have a voice/presence, Antifa will no longer have a reason to exist.
Arguing over tactics avoids the real issue which is the root cause of violence regardless of perpetrators. Whole other discussion for another time.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 29, 17 2:14 PM
JuneZ, antifa ARE THE FACISTS!! They are using techniques by Nazi brown shirts to shut down any opposition! They have become the de facto storm troopers of the alt left , using violence to control any speech their masters have deemed "hateful", in actuality anything they don't agree with. Sucker
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Aug 29, 17 2:26 PM
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By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 29, 17 7:06 PM
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By Mets fan (863), Southampton on Aug 30, 17 8:37 AM
it looks like this is just about settled, should only be a couple of more comments in this thread and everything will be clear.

thanks for all of the hard work everyone!
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (399), southampton on Aug 29, 17 2:34 PM
"When you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front row seat."

~ George Carlin
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Aug 29, 17 9:59 PM
On July 21, 1972, comedian George Carlin was arrested at Milwaukee, Wisconsin’s Summerfest and charged with violating that state’s obscenity laws after performing his controversial routine.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Aug 30, 17 8:15 AM
Do you support the First Amendment, or "obscenity laws"?

People pay for their tickets.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Sep 3, 17 1:00 PM
to Po Boy:

You have, at last, reverted to full-on, Right-Wing debate mode (the s.o.p. of Right-Wingers herein.) Your assertion is disproven; your citation discredited; you can't find anything substantive to support your ignorant belief; so you allege "countless other examples", which (natch') you won't specify since they are, in reality, nonexistent.

"Political" debate with Right-Wingers inevitably become theological - - - belief vs. fact.

One last time, BLM is a PEACEFUL ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 30, 17 10:23 AM
I see you've abandoned any reference to the fascist Antifa and the violence, hatred and bigotry it espouses, choosing instead, to plant the flag with BLM. You can claim one last time, or countless next times that BLM is LMAO*... "PEACEFUL." The KKK says its not racist. What's your point? My point is that if it quacks and walks like a duck....it's a duck. When they calling for dead cops, has a platform that insists black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise, causes property ...more
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 30, 17 11:03 AM
to Po Boy:

Quote:

"I see you've abandoned any reference to the fascist Antifa and the violence, hatred and bigotry it espouses, choosing instead, to plant the flag with BLM."
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You have determinedly forgotten my post of two days past:
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"Antifa is indefensible (and it sure ISN'T "L"iberal.) It is also an insignificant minority amidst the thousands of peaceful protesters.

The Right-Wing, ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 30, 17 5:26 PM
I see you've completely ignored information that runs contrary to your point, choosing instead, LITERALLY... NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE.

Permanently disabled’ Baton Rouge officer sues Black Lives Matter for 2016 ambush shooting By Katie Mettler July 10 
Aug 30, 17 6:25 PM appended by Po Boy
While you refer to Antifa as indefensible, you immediately default to minimize mode deflecting it as not liberal and the minority "amidst the thousands of peaceful protesters".Pure BS. THAT is indefensible and that make YOU part of the problem.
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 30, 17 6:25 PM
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By loading... (510), quiogue on Aug 30, 17 11:39 AM
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By johnj (687), Westhampton on Aug 30, 17 4:11 PM

Trump's proposed corporate tax plan will add trillions to US debt – report
The Guardian
Suzanne McGee7 hrs ago

Donald Trump’s plans to reduce the corporate tax rate from 35% to 20% will result in a revenue loss of $3tn to $7tn for the federal government over a decade and are unlikely to create the promised boom in jobs, according to a new report from the non-partisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.
Trump and Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House of Representatives, ...more
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 30, 17 1:10 PM
And what percentage of a business' NET INCOME do you feel the government is entitled to JuneZ?
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Aug 30, 17 4:24 PM
Oh, let's see. How can I demonstrate the idiocy of this question? How about you tell us the value of the use of the commonwealth that any business enjoys in the conduct of its enterprise?
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 31, 17 12:03 PM
Here we go with the " you didn't built that" crap again... Keep your cool biggie she really does not know any better !
By joe hampton (2905), The Hamptons on Aug 31, 17 3:53 PM
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you built it joe, you and bigfresh and the rest of you hard working men built it for your family's and don't let them tell you otherwise
By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Sep 2, 17 9:05 AM
you are the one that feels as if business and the most successful among us are not paying their "fair share" JuneZ , not I. Please enlighten us all on your idea of raising taxes and please elaborate where these funds would be spent.
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Sep 3, 17 11:02 AM
Yet again with the most inane soundbite ever, which only the mentally inept trot out when they feel cornered. We all built the highways, roads, and infrastructure. Generations of Americans, in fact. So, your train of thought is not only inept, but just plain stupid.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Sep 3, 17 11:23 AM
to Tail Gunner Po:

Quote:

"I see you've completely ignored information that runs contrary to your point, choosing instead, LITERALLY... NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE.

Permanently disabled’ Baton Rouge officer sues Black Lives Matter for 2016 ambush shooting By Katie Mettler July 10 
Aug 30, 17 6:25 PM appended by Po Boy
While you refer to Antifa as indefensible, you immediately default to minimize mode deflecting it as not liberal and the minority "amidst ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Aug 31, 17 11:38 AM
More Hypocrisy from Black Lives Matterby IAN TUTTLE July 12, 2016 Too many protestors choose to escalate tension and increase the likelihood of violence.
Aug 31, 17 12:21 PM appended by Po Boy
"Last week, a gunman in Dallas opened fire on police at the end of a Black Lives Matter demonstration, killing five officers and wounding several others. Micah Johnson, the shooter, told a hostage negotiator that he was angry on behalf of Black Lives Matter and “wanted to kill white people, especially police officers.” Johnson’s Facebook page revealed an affinity for black nationalism, and he followed a Facebook group called the “African American Defense League,” which encouraged followers to “ATTACK EVERYTHING IN BLUE EXCEPT THE MAIL MAN” and “sprinkle Pigs Blood.” Johnson seems to have been the mirror-image of Dylann Roof, the white nationalist who killed nine black people at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C., last year."
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Aug 31, 17 12:21 PM
A lone, demented or hate-filled loon can come in any hue and can claim inclusion in any group. No more proves BLM is a violent movement than Charles Manson, the Unabomber, or Richard Speck prove that all white folk are violent.

Does the following entitle you to claim police in general are violent?
‘We only kill black people’: Georgia cop caught on video reassuring nervous white woman during traffic stop
BRAD REED
31 AUG 2017 AT 07:54 ET ...more
Aug 31, 17 1:56 PM appended by June Bug
Apparently there is historical precedent for what's been posted on this list. Just saw a reproduction of a NYTimes article on Twitter which focused on the "violent" "anti-nazi" protesters when Nazis held a "Pro-America" rally in Madison Square Garden in 1939. Hmmmm.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 31, 17 1:56 PM
LOL JuneB. The crazy Left (but I repeat myself) think they have an A-HA moment, but all they have is a moment of sarcasm and poking fun at the ridiculous BLM movement by someone who they despise.

GOOD FOR THE COP!
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 31, 17 2:26 PM
So tell me, do racists also find references to Auschwitz "fun", too?
And do they understand Freudian "slips"?
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Aug 31, 17 3:31 PM
It's ok, I get it. You're in the "all cops are bad" crowd and incapable of seeing the forest through the trees. Do you understand sarcasm and verbal judo?
BTW, I think it was a little uncalled for to refer to my friend HHS a a "lone, demented or hate-filled loon." Don't worry HHS, I got your back.
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Aug 31, 17 4:24 PM
The Left is slowly starting to realize that tearing down statues of everyone born over 100 years ago and defending violent Antifa thugs isn't as popular across the country as it is at there cocktail parties.
By They call me (2143), southampton on Sep 1, 17 5:49 PM
its so crazy the main stream media is so corrupt as well as most campuses being turned (already turned) into propaganda centers, I have several friends whose children have opted to take on line courses from regular brick and mortar institutions in order to avoid the blatant brainwashing and indoctrination which takes place in classrooms.
By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Sep 2, 17 12:42 AM
If you have to cover your face in order to get your point across, your point is a bad one.
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Aug 31, 17 12:28 PM
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Covered faces are the norm these days, it could be white supremacist hate groups or or once again the violent Black hooded Antifa like at Berkley on Aug 27

(Berkeley cops STAND DOWN and Antifa to brutally beat people) source you tube
By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 31, 17 10:59 PM
Masked Faces Don't Matter
By pw herman (704), southampton on Sep 2, 17 9:28 AM
Winning: American Manufacturing Expanded in August at Fastest Pace in Six Years.

End DACA
End Globalism
End all Trade deals
Build that wall
MAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Ditch Bum (314), Water Mill on Sep 1, 17 5:57 PM
Please remind us how well isolationism worked for the Chinese.

We'll be waiting...
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Sep 3, 17 11:28 AM
Antifa will all find out if ANYTHING happens to our legally elected President, Donald J. Tump. That includes if they impeach him. These s bags will be shown what it means to be American once again!
By They call me (2143), southampton on Sep 2, 17 4:11 PM
to They call me:

Quote:

"Antifa will all find out if ANYTHING happens to our legally elected President, Donald J. Tump. That includes if they impeach him. These s bags will be shown what it means to be American once again!"
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You're cute.

Those mean ol' Antifa bullies are cowering under their beds NOW!

Puss-pusses of America - - - UNITE!

By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Sep 3, 17 10:20 AM
HHS you seem to be implying that ANTIFA is a peaceful grass roots group. Is that what you are saying ?
By 27dan (2119), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 3, 17 10:57 AM
Can anyone please explain why antifact protesters cover their faces? who is so PRO fascist or PRO nazi that they are concerned about?

Seems more like they are afraid to be seen by the ones paying the tuition invoices.
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Sep 3, 17 10:29 AM
...for the same reason you hide your identity from being associated with your comments here.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (399), southampton on Sep 3, 17 11:44 AM
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the kids must have teased you endlessly with a name like "adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurw"


you couldn't answer the question.
By even flow (495), East Hampton on Sep 5, 17 3:35 PM
to 27Ddan:

Quote:

"HHS you seem to be implying that ANTIFA is a peaceful grass roots group. Is that what you are saying ?"
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Not at all. Antifa advocates and practices violent confrontation. For this reason, we Liberals condemn it (as we do the white supremacists and Neo-Nazis of Charlottesville.)

It is, however, a distinct and entirely different organization from Black Lives Matter - - - which IS a "peaceful ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Sep 3, 17 3:41 PM
Not at all. Antifa advocates and practices violent confrontation. For this reason, we Liberals condemn it (as we do the white supremacists and Neo-Nazis of Charlottesville.)

You should have quit while you were ahead ...
By joe hampton (2905), The Hamptons on Sep 4, 17 11:49 AM
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highhatsize, you seem conficted

"You're cute.

Those mean ol' Antifa bullies are cowering under their beds NOW!

Puss-pusses of America - - - UNITE! " By highhatsize (3275), East Quogue on Sep 3, 17 10:20 AM

"Antifa advocates and practices violent confrontation. For this reason, we Liberals condemn it" East Quogue on Sep 3, 17 3:41 PM


By They call me (2143), southampton on Sep 4, 17 11:56 AM
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"Black Lives Matter - - - which IS a "peaceful ...more grass roots group" (although the determinedly ignorant Far Right habitually conflates the two in promotion of its mendacious propaganda.) "By highhatsize

To high hat size, Tell that to the baton rouge police officer left permanently disabled after a black separatist killed three policemen and injured three more in a shootout at an event where nearly 200 people arrested. This police officer is now suing Deray Mckesson and four other ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1517), southampton on Sep 4, 17 12:16 PM
This group doesn't not speak for me thats for sure, I do not want to defend a man like Micah Xavier Johnson who killed five police officers and injured nine others in another attack at a BLM event in Dallas, Texas.

Johnson a self admited BLM leader claimed he was angry over police killings of black men and stated he wanted to kill white people, namely white police officers, according to the Dallas police chief David Brown.

You must remember this incident high hat ? It was the one ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1517), southampton on Sep 4, 17 12:21 PM
UD you forgot the biggest one last year just 60 miles away from East Quogue ! When BLM “Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon!” a phrase that refers to police officers in body bags and has been used overtly and shown on TV by BLM activists in NY, Dallas and Minnesota.

Or the infamous BLM march in NYC played over and over on TV where we heard.

“What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!”

“Whose streets? OUR streets!”
“No ...more
By They call me (2143), southampton on Sep 4, 17 12:32 PM
to Undocumented Democrat:

Mindless progaganda.

Neither the Baton Rouge shooter nor the rioters in Baltimore were BLM members.

The stupidity inherent in equating "black" with "BLM" would embarrass a single-cell organism (but not, of course, a Right-Winger.)
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Sep 4, 17 12:34 PM
OK sure ! and James Alex Fields, Driver Charged in Charlottesville Killing was technically not a card carrying member of the KKK, Please listen to yourself mad hatter at least be honest and admit both sides are looking for trouble and trust me they will continue to find it !
By Ditch Bum (314), Water Mill on Sep 4, 17 12:44 PM
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to Undocumented Democrat & They call me:

New lies and old lies:

"'Johnson a self admited BLM leader ..' - Undocumented Democrat" - a NEW lie. - - - He made no such admission

"'Or the infamous BLM march in NYC ... ' - They call me" - an OLD lie - - - It WASN'T BLM.

- - - and novel misdirection:

"Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon" - reprehensible, but an unsanctioned, spontaneous, thirty-second incident cherry-picked from an otherwise innocuous ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Sep 4, 17 4:34 PM
"but an unsanctioned, spontaneous, thirty-second incident cherry-picked from an otherwise innocuous event of some hours."

But yet, those chanting the disgusting, reprehensible and dangerous rhetoric just hours after a Texas Deputy was gunned down in cold blood and chanted in ear shot and feet away of St. Paul police leading the protesters... held Black Lives Matters signs. Rashad Turner, the organizer of the St. Paul march saw nothing wrong with what was chanted.... referring to the rhetoric ...more
Sep 4, 17 11:20 PM appended by Po Boy
And therein lies the problem with BLM. Their rhetoric is dangerous, escalates tensions and promotes violence.
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Sep 4, 17 11:20 PM
all lives matter!
By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Sep 4, 17 6:10 PM
All Birthdays Matter!
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (399), southampton on Sep 4, 17 6:35 PM
to Po Boy:

Quote:

"And therein lies the problem with BLM. Their rhetoric is dangerous, ... "
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Your comment is a logical fallacy, specifically, "the fallacy of hasty generalization".* You have taken an insignificant incident and inferentially inflated its importance to be definitive of the behavior of BLM as a whole. It's not. In fact, your very recourse to such a vanishingly inconsequential event indicates the insubstantiality of ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Sep 5, 17 2:20 PM
“At any point when the rhetoric ramps up to the point where calculated, coldblooded assassinations of police officers happen, this rhetoric has gotten out of control,” Sheriff Hickman said. “We’ve heard ‘black lives matter.’ All lives matter. Well, cops’ lives matter, too. So why don’t we just drop the qualifier and just say ‘lives matter,’ and take that to the bank.”
Sep 5, 17 3:10 PM appended by Po Boy
Statement by Harris Country Sheriff after the targeted murder of a deputy - shot 15 times. Hours later, Black Lives Matter protesters were calling for "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon".
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Sep 5, 17 3:10 PM
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to Po Boy:

"Rhetoric" by BLM didn't cause any cops' murders nor did the "pigs in a blanket" chant refer to any.

Duplicitously, you have raised irrational, viscerally charged implications to deflect attention from the factual bankruptcy of your case against BLM.

Sadly, your chicanery is unsurprising.
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Sep 5, 17 3:44 PM
Hmmm. Whose sentiment holds more value and meaning? A Sheriff who sees first hand the implications of dangerous rhetoric, or a, um.... well, I'll leave it there.

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” MLK

Sep 5, 17 10:09 PM appended by Po Boy
Politically fueled cop hatred has taken another innocent officer’s life By Heather Mac Donald July 6, 2017. "Alexander Bonds’ anti-cop rhetoric echoes the Black Lives Matter-inspired vitriol spewed by previous cop assassins over the last three years."
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Sep 5, 17 10:09 PM
not many here agree with you mr hat, you seem to always be on the opposite side of reason . i guess you enjoy inciting others with a more reasonable view point
By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Sep 6, 17 2:04 AM
Obama defined a daca "child" as a person up to age 36. The average age of a daca "child" is 25. Now you know why libs think it's cruel to take these "children" from their parents. At age 30, many libs aren't ready to leave the nest.
By SlimeAlive (625), Southampton on Sep 6, 17 6:28 AM
“As an example, you have people in this county for 20 years. They’ve done a great job. They’ve done wonderfully. They’ve gone to school. They’ve gotten good marks. They’re productive. Now we’re supposed to send them out of the country? I don’t believe in that, Michelle, and you understand that. I don’t believe in a lot of things that are being said.”

~ Donald J. Trump
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Sep 6, 17 7:12 AM
Sorry but I'm not here to play footsie. If you have a point to make, make it. The smart money is on you being unable to make one without calling someone that doesn't share your beliefs ''stupid'', which ultimately, is the calling card of the flummoxed.
By SlimeAlive (625), Southampton on Sep 6, 17 7:52 AM
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Michelle who ? This Michelle ?

"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country."Michelle Obama, February 18, 2008

“It's the story that I witness every day, when I wake up in a house that was built by slaves.”
Michelle Obama, June 3, 2016

“We can’t waste this spotlight, it is temporary and life is short and change is needed and women are smarter than men. And the men can’t complain because you’re outnumbered ...more
By They call me (2143), southampton on Sep 6, 17 2:11 PM
Being stupid, and acting stupid are two disparate things.

If you read carefully you'll note that the ideas are modified by your so carefully quoted adjective. There is no ad hominem attack, and the conspiracy theory about "ransom money" is the object of said adjective.

I'll loan you a copy of Warriner's if you'd like should you not grasp reading comprehension...
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Sep 12, 17 10:44 PM
to Po Boy:

Quote:

"Hmmm. Whose sentiment holds more value and meaning? A Sheriff who sees first hand the implications of dangerous rhetoric, or a, um.... well, I'll leave it there.

'Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.' MLK

Sep 5, 17 10:09 PM appended by Po Boy
Politically fueled cop hatred has taken another innocent officer’s life By Heather Mac Donald July 6, 2017. "Alexander ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Sep 6, 17 10:43 AM
AP/ September 3, 2015. Two sentenced for bomb plot in wake of Ferguson police shooting...The sentences for Brandon Orlando Baldwin, 24, and Olajuwon Davis, 23 - identified by federal agents as New Black Panther Party members."
Sep 6, 17 11:08 AM appended by Po Boy
One needs to look no further than the fact that the ideological guru behind Black Lives Matter – the individual whom its founders cite as their inspiration – Assata Shakur - was a Black Panther Party member, and convicted cop killer who is on the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorist list and interestingly enough routinely paid homage by Leftists at agitation events.
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Sep 6, 17 11:08 AM
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to Po Boy:

You have become wholly absurd.

Now you imply that BLM was culpable in a bomb plot because the perps were members of The New Black Panther Party, and Assata Shakur, whom some BLM members look upon favorably, was a member of the (original) Black Panther Party fifty years ago. (Needless to say, Ms. Shakur, who has lived in Cuba for the past thirty years, was never a member of BLM [nor were the perps.])

Your accusation comes from an article* on Right-Wing conspiratorialist ...more
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Sep 6, 17 2:08 PM
nice rose colored glasses you have there mr hat
By Erin 27 E (881), hampton bays on Sep 6, 17 2:14 PM
LMAO hat... "lived in Cuba"... translation.... was serving a life sentence and fled to Cuba after escaping from prison. "Lived in Cuba" HAHAHAAHAHAHA.... this murdering terrorist who has "lived in Cuba" is the Left's darling and the foundation of BLM. Your darling too apparently.
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Sep 6, 17 3:41 PM
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From wiki - the Black Panthers were known to chant "Off the pigs!" which helped create the Panthers' reputation as a violent organization.

Sound familiar?

By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Sep 6, 17 10:36 PM
to Mr. Snerdley & Po Boy:

Naomi Cambell is a supermodel.

Sammy Davis Jr. was an entertainer's entertainer.

Contrary to your resultant expectations - - - however - - - BLM won't be tap-dancing down the streets in couture.
By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Sep 7, 17 5:00 PM
Like Naomi and Sammy, every entertainer has a front man and the business of public agitation, mayhem, rhetoric and violence is no different. BLM is nothing more than the front man who manages public image while setting the stage for its miscreants to run loose. It allows those inclined to condone the abhorrent behavior to dismiss and rationalize it.
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Sep 8, 17 10:15 AM
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to Po Boy:

Same old same old.

Your (and your colleagues') bogus references having been refuted earlier, all you have left is unsupported, Right-Wing conspiratorialist cant.

"Belief" is STILL not "fact", Po Boy.



By highhatsize (3298), East Quogue on Sep 8, 17 2:19 PM
Don’t criticize Black Lives Matter for provoking violence. The civil rights movement did, too. Martin Luther King Jr. deliberately courted violence. By Simone Sebastian October 1, 2015
Sep 8, 17 2:50 PM appended by Po Boy
"Black Lives Matter protests have produced one spectacle after another. Peaceful demonstrations in Baltimore and Ferguson, Mo., were followed by riots in which police and activists clashed. Many Americans, weaned on tales of how 20th-century civil rights leaders used nonviolent resistance, criticize today’s advocates for “extreme” tactics and accuse them of inciting violence. Even Martin Luther King Jr.’s niece, Alveda King, called BLM’s methods inappropriate. Mike Huckabee said the civil rights leader would be “appalled” by BLM’s strategy: To address racial injustice, “you don’t do it by magnifying the problems,” he said."
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Sep 8, 17 2:50 PM
WHITE CHRISTIANS ARE NOW A MINORITY OF US POPULATION

BY RACHEL ZOLL
AP RELIGION WRITER
By They call me (2143), southampton on Sep 6, 17 12:35 PM
Natural evolution.

Atheists and Agnostics are the future.

If the "Good Book" was still truly in play, slavery would be legal, as well as stoning in public, and executions for wearing different cloths and planting crops against some old fashioned alleged "wisdom".

"Right wingers" don't even realize how Victorian their train of thought is.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Sep 12, 17 8:27 PM
Has BLM come out against the anti -cop rhetoric spouted by some of its' members? Did they come out against the "pigs in a blanket fry um like bacon" folks? Did they disavow violence? Did they disavow racism?
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Sep 6, 17 1:09 PM
They were too busy denouncing black on black crime that day.
By Biba (338), East Hampton on Sep 6, 17 2:33 PM
Maybe the voices that did were drowned out by the mob.

The psychic ability of a crowd mentality is quite powerful.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Sep 12, 17 8:29 PM
An original thought in a left-winger's head would die of loneliness.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Sep 13, 17 8:48 AM
There is no truly original thought.

We all stand on the shoulders of countless generations. You couldn't build this world in ten lifetimes on your own.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Sep 13, 17 10:01 PM


Calls for a 'white jihad' show how terrifyingly intertwined Islamists and the far-Right have become
TELEGRAPH, uk
JULIA EBNER AND AMARNATH AMARASINGAM
7 SEPTEMBER 2017 • 2:48PM

There are peculiar parallels between Islamist and far-Right violence – and they’re illustrated vividly by the banned neo-Nazi organisation, National Action. On Tuesday, four serving members of the Army were arrested under anti-terror laws on suspicion of being members. A ...more
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 7, 17 8:18 PM
You mean Nazi"s and ISIS are bad?.... say it ain't so. Thanks for the breaking new June B!
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Southampton on Sep 7, 17 10:04 PM
You heard it from your "Congress" first...

Congress Overwhelmingly Approves Resolution Condemning White Nationalists

BY ASSOCIATED PRESS
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Sep 12, 17 8:33 PM
Not exactly Mr. Z. The bill language essentially restates what the president stated in his initial remarks. We heard it from THE PRESIDENT first... "and other hate groups.". Hate=bad... You don't say. Thanks Democrats and Republicans in Congress! It's not like there are other pressing matters to be looking at.
Sep 12, 17 9:32 PM appended by Mr. Snerdley
BTW Mr. Z. Very disappointed in you. You're usually very good at colorful commentary on corruption in (Republican) politics when it occurs but have been silent on the recent Democrat events. Tisk tisk.
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Alexandria on Sep 12, 17 9:32 PM
Except for that pesky "Hate Crime Prevention Act" back in 2010. Not a "right" idea, as it were.

Makes it a bit more of a challenge to be colorful when we need a rule because someone is murdered for it...
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Sep 12, 17 10:24 PM
Yeah, almost used that in my initial response as an example of meaningless legislation. Murder is murder whether it be for "hate" or "love".
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Alexandria on Sep 13, 17 8:20 AM
You negate passion.
By Mr. Z (9458), North Sea on Sep 13, 17 9:57 PM
The ConArtist-in-Chief pontificates about "protecting us" on 9/11? The same traitor who sold us out to our major foreign adversary? The same eel who lied and lied on 9/11-- "saw bodies falling through the air from Trump Tower (impossible)", "saw thousands of Muslims celebrating in NJ" (false), "lost hundreds of friends in the towers" (edited the next day to "many friends") yet NEVER ATTENDED A SINGLE FUNERAL. Didn't lose a single friend. How do you people sleep at night knowing you were ...more
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 12, 17 11:05 AM
Breaking: Senate sticks it to trump by UNANIMOUSLY approving a resolution praising Heather Heyer, fallen state troopers, and CONDEMNING WHITE NATIONALISTS. If approved by the House, it goes to trump.
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 12, 17 8:15 PM
Shouldn't you be out buying Hillary's book of lies?
By Po Boy (452), Water Mill on Sep 12, 17 10:13 PM
Read it more closely June B..... the bill covers several groups and includes "and other hate groups." The bill essentially restates what the President stated in his initial remarks condemning violence on all sides. It does nothing but make a statement.... it's a complete waste of tax dollars.
Sep 12, 17 9:44 PM appended by Mr. Snerdley
From Congress dot gov...S.J.Res.49 - A joint resolution condemning the violence and domestic terrorist attack that took place during events between August 11 and August 12, 2017, in Charlottesville, Virginia, recognizing the first responders who lost their lives while monitoring the events, offering deepest condolences to the families and friends of those individuals who were killed and deepest sympathies and support to those individuals who were injured by the violence, expressing support for the Charlottesville community, rejecting White nationalists, White supremacists, the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis, and other hate groups, and urging the President and the President's Cabinet to use all available resources to address the threats posed by those groups.
By Mr. Snerdley (355), Alexandria on Sep 12, 17 9:44 PM
Wrong per usual, Snerdley.
First, do you know the difference between a "bill" and a resolution? Obviously not. Secondly, the resolution does not "restate what the President stated in his initial remarks". It is in direct opposition to those remarks-- a unanimous, bipartisan effort by lawmakers to secure a more forceful denunciation of racist extremism from trump after he was roundly (and appropriately) criticized by lawmakers of both parties for blaming "both sides" in Charlottsville. The ...more
Sep 13, 17 7:28 PM appended by June Bug
Breaking from politicus.com: Trump Won’t Commit To Signing Condemnation Of White Supremacy Passed Unanimously By Entire Congress. "All men are created equal"? Meaningless to this son of a Klansman whose employees were instructed to place the initial "C" on applications to rent his apartments to indicate the applicant was "colored".
By June Bug (1411), SOUTHAMPTON on Sep 13, 17 7:28 PM
just more delusional ravings from one of our resident leftists, ALL LIVES MATTER
By bigfresh (2980), north sea on Sep 14, 17 6:15 AM
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