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Sep 13, 2017 11:42 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

UPDATE: Southampton Town Board Signs Off Thursday On Environmental Study For 'The Hills'

Southampton Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman reads a resolution to accept the FEIS for 'The Hills' on Thursday. AMANDA BERNOCCO
Sep 15, 2017 9:53 AM

UPDATE: Thursday, 4:30 p.m.:

The Southampton Town Board unanimously accepted the FEIS on Thursday morning during a quick special meeting.

A handful of people attended the meeting, though no one spoke during the public comment portion of the meeting, which lasted under 10 minutes.

ORIGINAL:

The Southampton Town Board is expected on Thursday to accept the Final Environmental Impact Statement for The Hills at Southampton, a luxury golf resort targeting nearly 600 acres in East Quogue.

That vote is scheduled to take place at a specially called meeting that will begin at 10 a.m. in the Town Board meeting room at Town Hall.

If that occurs, the next step is for the board to accept the findings statement from the town’s planning staff and, finally, scheduling a vote on the application itself.

The application, a planned development district filed by Discovery Land Company of Arizona, would require the support of four of the five Town Board members, known as a supermajority, to gain final approval. The prior two votes—acceptance of the FEIS and the findings statement—require only a simple board majority to be approved.

In a prior interview, Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman said that he expects the vote on the PDD to occur before the end of September.

This week, he said the board opted to hold a special meeting on the FEIS vote this Thursday, September 14, as opposed to adding it as a walk-on resolution during this past Tuesday’s board meeting, in order to provide more notification to community members.

The application, which seeks permission to build 117 homes and an 18-hole golf course centered around 168 acres along Spinney Road, has been a hot-button topic since its introduction, mostly because of its potential impact on the environment as it would be built on the largest remaining tract of land on the South Fork.

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The town board should approve. #1 private property is protected and the owners have a right to use as they see fit unless of course it would cause harm. #2 most of the land would be preserved something Southampton Government was unable to achieve,#3 no children and limited to the time of occupancy #4 limits damage from 100 + individual homes with the associated infrastructure needs and the impact on schools, #5 taxes to the village, #6 inflow of new money to local businesses, #7 state of the art ...more
By tom (51), Hampton Bays on Sep 13, 17 12:10 PM
... let's begin and end with your #1, Tom. They have NO right to do what they are asking for on this property. They seek a zoning change permitted under a flawed and recently rescinded PDD law.
By William Rodney (461), southampton on Sep 13, 17 2:23 PM
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My recollection of the recently rescinded PDD legislature decision process is more akin to the Town Board not being able to figure it out since it was complicated than it being flawed. Complicated doesn't always equal flawed. It just requires more thought to get it right. Repeal was the easy answer. The developers have the right to build and I suspect build they will after all this time. This is not the approval of the project, just the FEIS from what I see.
By HB Proud (754), Hampton Bays on Sep 13, 17 8:57 PM
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Let's go to #3 - How do you keep children out of a public school? How do you tell a home owner when they can use the h ome they purchased? A bit naive, no, Tom?
By zappy (41), east quogue on Sep 14, 17 2:14 PM
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Lets start with your "They seek a zoning change permitted under a flawed and recently rescinded PDD law." THE CHANGE TO THE PDD LAW DOES NOT APPLY TO THIS PROJECT ! DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ?

Its like the people who say Hillary won the popular vote. IT DOSE NOT MEAN ANYTHING ! Sorry for yelling and thank you for your time.
By 27dan (2122), Shinnecock Hills on Sep 14, 17 8:48 PM
Good job Town Board. Now let's expedite approving the PDD. The East Quogue taxpayers applaud you.
By A Great American (18), East Quogue on Sep 14, 17 5:16 PM
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Polluted water and brown bays will be here long before tax breaks which are many years away....after "build out", if it happens. Who will want a house with bad drinking water near polluted bays with brown tides? Local property values will crash - tax breaks will not seem so great then, even if they materialize.
By Taz (290), East Quogue on Sep 14, 17 5:41 PM
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Nobody. And that is why we are making sure that science supports what we are doing to prevent any kind of contamination.

You are advocating a lie. Pure and simple. And Dr. Gobler's research supports that. Not some hysterical, unsubstantiated claims from irrational opponents.
By Mark Hissey (166), East Quogue on Sep 16, 17 12:07 AM
Science supported tetraethyl lead in gasoline too.
By Mr. Z (9462), North Sea on Sep 16, 17 12:54 PM
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Looks like you are late to the conversation, American,as seen by the number of posts. EQ residents are only in favor of this debacle if it looks like they can profit; ie those in the building trades. EVeryone else is more interested in preserving our waters. Hopefully the Town Board sees that.
By zappy (41), east quogue on Sep 14, 17 7:33 PM
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Hey slappy, not everybody thinks like you do chief. Small business owners will benefit. Everybody associated with the school, especially the students, will benefit. Nearby residents will benefit with brand new septic systems. There are plenty of people who will benefit aside from builders and contractors.
By i'mrightyou'rewrong (5), Southampton on Sep 15, 17 10:35 AM
Obviously you have not been following this proposal very carefully. How will small business owners benefit when the homeowners, according to Discovery anyway, are only "allowed " to occupy their homes for a couple of months per year? How will our students benefit? Do tell. How many jobs could there possibly be in this "seasonal development"? Seems you have had a bit too much kool aid.
By zappy (41), east quogue on Sep 15, 17 11:10 AM
I'm sorry, but you are making yourself look foolish. It is you who isn't following things carefully if at all. Students, jobs, economy -- they are all in there. The issues you bring up are specifically addressed. You ask questions like they are mysteries when in fact they are right there in black and white in the proposal and have been outlined in public repeatedly.
By Mark Hissey (166), East Quogue on Sep 15, 17 6:50 PM
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I have been impressed with how the Town Board has been wading through the details of this project, It can be a surprise to nobody if it is approved, as it should be. The Discovery Group delivers Top Notch developments and this will be another.
By 11953guest (31), southampton on Sep 14, 17 11:16 PM
I am quite certain that the people in the Bahamas will differ on your opinion on top notch developments by Discovery. When the reefs began to deteriorate, Discovery was long gone as they will be in East Quogue when our water quality declines and the appeal of this as a vacation destination ebbs.
By zappy (41), east quogue on Sep 15, 17 11:06 AM
And there you are, wrong once again. Discovery hasn't left the Bahamas at all. We are there permanently. The people of the Bahamas are delighted with the development. The government of the Bahamas has in fact been on the record, repeatedly regarding this. You may want to look at DLC's commitment to both Barbuda and the Dominican Republic before you start slinging mud too.
By Mark Hissey (166), East Quogue on Sep 15, 17 6:56 PM
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Funny, Mr. Hissey, you reply here but not when 2 other bloggers on another article ask how much it cost to buy the dems. We are waiting.....
By zappy (41), east quogue on Sep 17, 17 3:18 PM
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Since the oceanfront and dunes are already ruined by development, you might as well go ahead and ruin the woods too.
By TheGoodLife (38), Westhampton Beach on Sep 14, 17 11:30 PM
Utter rubbish.

Felicity Kendall would be ashamed of you.
By Mark Hissey (166), East Quogue on Sep 16, 17 12:09 AM
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HAH. The day after the primary.

Where's George "Turkey Bridge" on this post?

Like I told ya, what I said.
By Draggerman (669), Southampton on Sep 15, 17 12:15 AM
This will kill the bays. The amount of nitrogen in the fertilizers needed to maintain a golf course will all run off into the bays and cause insane algae blooms. Golf courses kill the bays. Thanks
By milkdilk (45), Southampton on Sep 16, 17 9:43 AM
Instead of spurting ignorance perhaps you should simply read the FEIS.
By VOS (990), WHB on Sep 16, 17 2:20 PM
My understanding is the property will be developed by right and that The Hills project will also contribute $2.5M to the Southampton Housing Fund which will help build affordable housing for teachers, town employees, shop-keepers, young people who would like to live here, but can't afford to and others, which we so badly need. Do you know that a study done 20 years ago stated that Southampton town had a deficit of 5000 affordable unit, and that deficit has only grown. NIMBY's will be NIMBY's ...more
By MichaelDaly (5), Sag Harbor, New York on Sep 16, 17 11:21 AM
Your understanding is incorrect. The developer used a loophole in the Housing Law which enabled them to avoid paying into the fund by reducing the density by one unit, which they did.
By CleanWater (116), East Quogue on Sep 16, 17 2:09 PM
REMEMBER SANDY HOLLOW.
DRAIN THE S.H. TOWN BOARD SWAMP.
VOTE THEM ALL OUT.
By pw herman (704), southampton on Sep 16, 17 6:30 PM
... MD, you are too far out of whack to even comment. Typical real estate agent talk. and you call yourself a stanner?
By William Rodney (461), southampton on Sep 17, 17 9:55 AM
Michael, it is obvious from your picture that you are of the age to know better. Twenty years ago we didn't need a high price study to know we needed affordable housing, we don't need a study today and I'm sure twenty years from now they will produce a study saying the same. This is a HIGH PRICED market and will probably remain so. So why don't we working on getting light-rail and other affordable public transportation in our areas so workers can come and go at a reasonable rate and speed. Our children ...more
By SpeedRacer (61), Southampton on Sep 17, 17 5:39 PM
If you are correct and a loophole has, in fact, been used to avoid that contribution to the SH Housing Fund, then I would not support the project.
By MichaelDaly (5), Sag Harbor, New York on Sep 17, 17 7:18 PM
This loophole was closed and they will, in fact be contributing as much as $2.6M to the SHTown Housing Fund if the project is approved. This was confirmed by Diana Weir, SHTown Housing and Community Development.
By MichaelDaly (5), Sag Harbor, New York on Sep 19, 17 10:08 AM
Nothing in their documents or even in their PR campaign suggests that. All we know is that they reduced the yield by one club house apartment to use the loophole to avoid the payment.
And it was never a "contribution" it was a required payment that they used a loophole to wriggle out of.
By CleanWater (116), East Quogue on Sep 19, 17 12:38 PM
DLC reduced the number of homes to 117 from 118 to avoid available housing rules.Period.It was unclear at the time if the affordable housing rules would apply to them. They prefered a fine of close to $3million rather than cater to those less fortunate than themselves. BTW, it is my understanding that EQ has no place to apply the $3 million for affordable housing so the fine can not be used here - one of the requirements of the rule. More sloppy management by our leaders.
By Taz (290), East Quogue on Sep 19, 17 1:13 PM
Who wants to buy houses in the middle of the woods, not on the water, with no golf course? The as of right will never be completed, and therin lies the truth. The comparisons of the Hills to the as of right are incorrect on every level.
By Taz (290), East Quogue on Sep 16, 17 12:41 PM
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Taz, you are 100%. You get what you pay for, and in this case the Town Board paid nothing for this report and that is what it's worth. As was stated earlier... the Tobacco Industry had great scientific reports showing smoking wasn't bad for you health and we know what those reports were worth. Keep on fighting!
By SpeedRacer (61), Southampton on Sep 17, 17 5:17 PM
That is correct, Taz, or the "as of" right development value is less than what the overstuffed land trust fund would pay to turn it into a preserve. That would cost Discovery Land $100 million or more in lost profits so they will do everything to avoid that.
By dfree (317), hampton bays on Sep 16, 17 1:06 PM
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Still waiting for DLC to show us where the pollution restrictions and the penalties for violating them are written. If in FEIS, show us where.
By Taz (290), East Quogue on Sep 16, 17 1:11 PM
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Still waiting for DLC to show us where the pollution restrictions and the penalties for violating them are written. If in FEIS, show us where.
By Taz (290), East Quogue on Sep 16, 17 1:30 PM
DLC disappears whenever I ask this question. Wonder why?!
By Taz (290), East Quogue on Sep 19, 17 12:01 PM
Draggerman, I agree. "Turkey Bridge" should change his name to "Turtle Bridge". He claims he has Dem insider info, so he sticks his neck out, and then when he can't produce, he hides in his shell.
By SpeedRacer (61), Southampton on Sep 19, 17 5:01 PM
Draggerman, I don't know what you mean by "the day after the primary." SpeedRacer, I don't know what you mean by "Dem insider info." Both your posts are incoherent, as far as I'm concerned.

If I had insider info, which I don't and never said I did, I wouldn't share it with you guys. The very nature of insider info is that you don't go spreading it all around.

Here's my story: I've said what I had to say and done what I had to do. Now it's up to the Town Board. It is my hope ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1744), Quiogue on Sep 19, 17 7:54 PM
DLC reduced the number of homes to 117 from 118 to avoid available housing rules.Period.It was unclear at the time if the affordable housing rules would apply to them. They prefered a fine of close to $3million rather than cater to those less fortunate than themselves. BTW, it is my understanding that EQ has no place to apply the $3 million for affordable housing so the fine can not be used here - one of the requirements of the rule. More sloppy management by our leaders.
By Taz (290), East Quogue on Sep 20, 17 11:18 AM
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