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Oct 23, 2017 10:36 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Southampton Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman To Leave Independence Party, Join Democrats

Jay Schneiderman
Oct 24, 2017 7:45 PM

Southampton Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman has filed the paperwork to switch from the Independence Party to the Democratic Party after next month’s election, in which he’s seeking reelection.

Mr. Schneiderman, who joined the Independence Party about a decade ago, downplayed the move, saying on Monday that he decided to change parties to reflect how closely he has been working with the Democratic Party in recent years. He was elected town supervisor after earning the Democratic Party line, and he has the party’s endorsement for reelection.

His party change was filed earlier this month, though it does not take effect until November 14, according to officials.

“I still see myself as an independent, as an independent-minded person,” Mr. Schneiderman said. “Even though I chose to affiliate with the Democrats.”

Mr. Schneiderman maintained that his change of party was merely a personal decision. But State Assemblyman Fred W. Thiele Jr., Southampton Town chair of the Independence Party, said in his experience a political party change tends to be an indicator that a politician is looking to make a career move.

“Certainly, there is a school of thought that if you are running for higher office you need to be in one of the two major parties,” Mr. Thiele said. “I think Jay has his eye on a higher office. And to run for higher office, he needs to join one of the two major parties.”

Mr. Thiele, who switched from the Republican Party to the Independence Party in 2009, noted that former Southampton Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst switched her party registration from the Independence Party to the Democratic Party right before a run for the 1st District congressional seat last year. Kate Browning also switched from Working Families to Democrat before her recently announced congressional bid.

Mr. Schniederman said he has no plans to vacate the top post in Southampton Town. “The only thing I am thinking about at the moment is town supervisor,” he said Monday.

Mr. Schneiderman, a former member of the Suffolk County Legislature, noted that it was “not surprising” that there is speculation about his moving to a higher office—such as a run for a Suffolk County post, or even a congressional run—as he is often asked about it.

But he stressed this week that the only reason for his party change is that he has been working so closely with the Democrats, who cross-endorsed him in his bid to run for reelection as town supervisor. He said he has been working so close with the Democrats in recent years that the change may not come as a shock to many of his constituents.

“Most people already think I am a Democrat,” Mr. Schneiderman said. “So it probably doesn’t come as much of a surprise. I decided that the time has come to become part of the Democratic organization.”

Mr. Schneiderman pointed out that registering as a Democrat puts him in a better position if he were to face a primary challenger. The town supervisor nearly did during this election season, as Fred Havemeyer, a former Town Trustee, attempted to challenge Mr. Schneiderman in a primary for the Democratic endorsement. Mr. Havemeyer, a former Republican who is now registered as a Democrat, filed a petition with the Board of Elections, but it was thrown out when officials said more than half of his signatures were invalid.

Mr. Schneiderman explained this week that if he ended up in a Democratic primary, he would have been at a disadvantage because of his Independence Party registration. He also pointed out that as an Independence Party member he would never be able to challenge a Democrat in a primary.

Throughout the course of Mr. Schneiderman’s career as an elected official, he has made a few party changes. He noted that he was a registered Republican when he sat as East Hampton Town supervisor before moving to the Suffolk County Legislature and eventually changing to Independent.

“I think a party is very much a personal decision,” Mr. Schneiderman said. “I am going to continue to work in a bipartisan fashion across party lines for what I think is best for the community.”

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The Independence Party's Loss is the Democratic Party's Loss. Mr. Jay Schneiderman seems to be following in the foot steps of his predecessor ATH. His next move should be into political oblivion. The town should only be so lucky!

VOTE ON NOVEMBER 7 ....

WRITE IN A CHOICE FOR TOWN SUPERVISOR


By SpeedRacer (152), Southampton on Oct 23, 17 10:53 PM
So now Schneiderman is a Democrat?

I wonder if he will attend future debates when he's not in office.

Not too many Democratic Committee people attend these debates, not even the Democratic Party Chair Gordon Herr.

HOW PATHETIC !
By HamptonClassic (108), Southampton on Oct 23, 17 11:21 PM
HamptonClassic, in fact Gordon Herr has attended every debate, meet and greet, and candidate night in this campaign cycle, with the sole exception of the Hampton Bays Civic Assn. event on Oct. 23. The local chairs of both our major parties have stepped up to do a difficult, largely thankless, but absolutely vital job, and they work hard at it. It's a great contrast to people like yourself, who do nothing at all but perch like vultures on this site, waiting to seize on isolated lapses by the people ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1957), Quiogue on Oct 25, 17 10:56 AM
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Well, he's out of the Leftist closet now.

Linda Kabot should get back in it. She didn't do so well in a beauty contest against Anna Throne-Holst, but she'd have a good shot against Jay.




By Frank Wheeler (1818), Northampton on Oct 23, 17 11:41 PM
Jay is a fraud
By HB90 (163), southampton on Oct 24, 17 12:50 AM
I'm glad you still see yourself as an Independent Jay because NOBODY sees you as a Democrat!

Can't the Dems vote to block him from tarnishing their good name? Trust me Jay - Your own party, The Independents don't want you and neither do anyone else!

I'll be writing in my choice for Town Supervisor on Election Day, and based on voter turnout, I have calculated that my vote counts for over 450 people in my Election District

What a joke Jay... What a joke!
By DisgustedHamptons (57), Hampton Bays on Oct 24, 17 2:55 AM
Based on the reaction here, calling him a joke, a fraud, pathetic ..one can only surmise that he is a perfect fit to be a democrat.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Oct 24, 17 4:32 AM
Gosh--with all the supportive comments and outpouring of warm wishes--I'm surprised more people don't run for public office?
By aging hipster (200), Southampton on Oct 24, 17 6:38 AM
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Excellent point.
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Oct 24, 17 2:49 PM
Aging Hipster - Jay did run for the job and then chose not to do it. In the real world, people get fired when they don't do their job. They are not given a 2 year probation period. Others deserve the opportunity to run now.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 24, 17 6:51 AM
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Human chameleon... yet he gets elected again and again..amazing. Just shows the quality of political opponents here.
By harbor (409), East Hampton on Oct 24, 17 10:59 AM
Write in Fred Havemeyer and show the Dem party they are on the wrong page!!!! Don't forget to vote for Julie Lofstad and Tommy John Schiavoni!!!!!! The Hills must go down!!!!
By Taz (689), East Quogue on Oct 24, 17 11:23 AM
So for the next four years Julie and Tommy John are going to be "one hit wonders?". Tommy John's wife is a Town Judge - no couple should have that much input in our Town. If those against the Hills want to write in, they may actually win. Look at what happened with Kabot a few years ago - I think she got a 3rd of the vote as a write in. Otherwise, Ray Overton is a great candidate for Supervisor- a clear winner in last night's debate in Hampton Bays. If Jay wins, it is only because people are ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 24, 17 11:45 AM
HB, do you remember anything at all from your Civics courses at school? We have three branches of government, executive, legislative and judicial. They're all separate. Ms. Schiavoni, as a judge, is in the judicial branch. Tommy John,if he wins, will be in the legislative branch. Separate branches, no problem.

You seem to like the GOP, so let's look at some GOP couples: Mitch McConnell, Senate, legislative branch -- Mitch's wife (forget name), cabinet secretary, executive branch. ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1957), Quiogue on Oct 25, 17 2:57 PM
How many partys left for jay?
By capt rich (12), Southampton on Oct 24, 17 12:20 PM
It seems to that is all Jay wants to do is go from party to party...and I don't mean political party. Not even the HBCA a/k/a the Democratic Party of Hampton Bays could make Jay look good last night.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 24, 17 12:52 PM
Hmmm He's been a Republican, a Green, Independence, and now a Democrat. Both the Conservatives and the Working Families are missing out. But since Both of those parties only run Democrats I guess they still have him.
By Gillnetter (105), Hampton Bays on Oct 24, 17 12:54 PM
Didn't that Working Families woman do the same thing before she announced she was running for Congress against Zeldin? I guess Jay's out the door come the day after election day.
By Gillnetter (105), Hampton Bays on Oct 24, 17 12:59 PM
Carpet bagging pol whose only job is to get reelected. Seems about right.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Oct 24, 17 1:09 PM
Seems to me that Jay's worried about the write in campaign and trying to shore up his Democratic party appeal.

Or he just wanted another story and picture about him...:)
By Toma Noku (616), Southampton on Oct 24, 17 2:55 PM
Does not matter what party he wants to be. He is a flat out liar. That beautiful bel aire motel in Hampton Bays is still open and it is disgusting. It’s for sale but the landlord still packs them in and collects checks. He said he would do something your a liar JAY
By bigblue84 (89), Hampton Bays on Oct 24, 17 3:00 PM
To quote Jay Schneiderman," Most people already think I am a Democrat. So it probably doesn't come as much of a surprise."

GUESS WHAT, JAY SCHNEIDERMAN ? Most people know you're an OPPORTUNIST--- so don;t be surprised when you're not re-elected!
By HamptonClassic (108), Southampton on Oct 24, 17 5:27 PM
Opportunist!!! That’s the word I was looking for. Thank you.
By GoldenBoy (344), EastEnd on Oct 24, 17 8:48 PM
Opportunist!!! That’s the word I was looking for. Thank you.
By GoldenBoy (344), EastEnd on Oct 24, 17 8:48 PM
The democrat party is what criminals join for cover. So what is he hiding?
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Oct 25, 17 5:30 AM
Hey slimy, remember when you got caught lying about the NRA giving zero donations to Trump?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7586), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 5:39 AM
The only presidential candidate who didn’t take a dime from the NRA is Donald J Trump. You cannot debunk that stmt., nor the one above.

Good luck to the Mets!
Oct 25, 17 5:45 AM appended by SlimeAlive
post away all you want but the NRA did NOT give Donald Trump 30 million dollars. Forget that it would be illegal. They didn't give the man a dime.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Oct 25, 17 5:45 AM
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By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7586), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 5:55 AM
"According to a report by Open Secrets and Trace, the NRA gave $30.3 million to Trump's campaign. A month before the election, NBC reported that $9.6 million (of the then-$21 million contribution) had been spent on ads and spreading a pro-Trump message, while the majority — $12 million — had been spent towards attacking his opponent Hillary Clinton, the most the NRA has ever spent on an election in history." from bustle dot com
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By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Oct 26, 17 6:59 AM
FACT: DJT received a direct donation for $1,065 from the NRA, in addition to the funds given to pro-Trump PACs.

"OpenSecrets [dot] org is the nation's premier website tracking the influence of money on U.S. politics, and how that money affects policy and citizens' lives."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7586), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 7:07 AM
Except the fact is: The NRA gave $30 million to pro-Trump super PACs in addition to the standard, limited-by-law donation directly to the candidate.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7586), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 5:54 AM
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Trump is bought and paid for by the NRA. Case closed. Try to get back to some form of reality slime
By Mets fan (1477), Southampton on Oct 25, 17 6:00 AM
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Morning mets. I'm still waiting on that check for my subscription, since we're the same person and all. Whattaya say, buddy? ;-)
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7586), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 6:04 AM
The only presidential candidate who held a political fund raiser in 2016 at the personal home of the NRAs top lobbyist was hillary clinton.

Trump is the singular candidate who hasn't taken a dime from the NRA...he is also the one person in DC who HASN'T colluded with the Russians.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Oct 26, 17 7:01 AM
FACT: DJT received a direct donation for $1,065 from the NRA, in addition to the funds given to pro-Trump PACs.

"OpenSecrets [dot] org is the nation's premier website tracking the influence of money on U.S. politics, and how that money affects policy and citizens' lives."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7586), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 7:08 AM
"Trump is bought and paid for by the NRA."

Let's say it's true...just for discussion sake, so what? I can think of nothing more important than protecting Constitutional Rights. Now, if you disagree or dislike their policy, that's your problem. But, fact is, all politicians are "bought and paid for" by their policy stance darlings - and let's not even get started on the Clinton Foundation list of donors.
By Po Boy (4863), Water Mill on Oct 26, 17 8:11 AM
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I'm not making a value judgement on an endorsement by the NRA, I'm just calling slimy a liar.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7586), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 8:24 AM
Political party affiliation at the local level has less importance than at higher levels. The decisions and actions of the Town Board directly effect our quality of life and the economic, social, and environmental viability of our communities. Jay is a fraud. He is all talk and no action. He wants a photo op for showing up. He wants a $99 million budget for what? He wants an 8% raise for himself and a 40% raise for his Deputy who is a bigger fraud. He put forward a "longevity" bonus so ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 25, 17 8:03 AM
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An even more important vote this coming election day is for our TOWN TRUSTEES!!! The Board is dysfunctional and needs to be shaken up, please do your research and look at what each Trustee has actually accomplished , not what they say. There are some very worthy non incumbents running who would work very well with one or 2 of the sitting Trustees. Remember , the top 5 vote getters are in. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO VOTE FOR 5!!!!!!!!
By bigfresh (4536), north sea on Oct 25, 17 8:27 AM
I would not say the Trustee election is more important - I would say of equal importance. Those of us who recognize how important this election is for the Town need to get the word out.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 25, 17 8:36 AM
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I am not voting for a single incumbent this year. We do not have any Democrat incumbents in this race just charlatans that claim to be DEMOCRATS while running with and as CONSERVATIVES. You can not be both of those things. I'll be writing in Fred Havermeyer and voting for all new trustees.
By CleanWaters (79), Southampton on Oct 25, 17 9:16 AM
Bill Pell is worthy of another term as Trustee
By bigfresh (4536), north sea on Oct 25, 17 10:41 AM
Turkey Bridge,

Talking about yourself, once again? "perching like a vulture, waiting to seize upon others who might differ from your line of thinking," and that's the overall opinion of your posts by the other people on 27 East.

SHAME ON YOU !

By the way, you have no idea what I do, nor will you ever know. I'm hardly a "do nothing" person, and that's not an opinion, but it's a fact.

P.S.If you took the time to do a little research, you would know that Senator ...more
By HamptonClassic (108), Southampton on Oct 25, 17 8:01 PM
So you had to go all the way to my reply to a different poster (HB Proud, not you) to get something on me. And what was it? Oh, yeah, the fact that I didn't bother to get McConnell's wife's name, a matter wholly irrelevant to the point I made. Lame, HamptonClassic, lame.
By southamptondems (7), southampton on Oct 26, 17 10:38 AM
Oops, my bad. Used "southamptondems" which is my subscriber name, the name I have to use to read articles in full, instead of Turkey Bridge, for the post just above. This mistake happens occasionally, and when it does, I step right up and make things clear, as I'm doing now. No harm, no foul.
By Turkey Bridge (1957), Quiogue on Oct 26, 17 10:42 AM
Does that mean the party pays for your subscription, George?
By Draggerman (930), Southampton on Oct 30, 17 8:17 PM
This guy is like a woman at a department store. Goes from republican than to independent, and now democrat. Talk about a traitor and only doing things that work for his agenda. Another weak leader for the town of Southampton.
By turkeyloser (22), east quogue on Oct 26, 17 6:37 AM
The only people that will be voting for Jay this year are the uniformed or delusional. We cab't do anything about the delusional, but we can do something about the uniformed. Ray Overton is a serious person with a strong business background and years of dedication to the community. For those that are basing their decision on the The Hill and don't agree with Mr. Overton, write in your candidate. No one should vote for Jay.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 26, 17 6:59 AM
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Turkey Bridge,

WOW ! you're feathers get so easily ruffled, you ended up posting on a different site !
Your attitude is abrasive, people see it, and know what you're all about. Pointing out an omission on your part, highlights your lack of knowledge, and does not make me lame by any stretch of the word. You come across as being so detailed and knowledgeable, too bad that won't help your guy, Schneiderman on November 7.

Concerning Tommy John Schiavoni and his wife, Judge Andrea ...more
By HamptonClassic (108), Southampton on Oct 26, 17 12:38 PM
Don't forget the debate tonight at Rogers Library in SH at 7:00.
By Toma Noku (616), Southampton on Oct 26, 17 12:47 PM
Has the Southampton Press come out with endorsements yet?
By GoldenBoy (344), EastEnd on Oct 26, 17 2:19 PM
Thanks, Toma Noku,, for reminding us about the Debate.

WHAT A DEBATE !! JAY SCHNEIDERMAN SAID "YES TO THE HILLS."

IF YOU CARE ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT, WHEN YOU VOTE ,,

WRITE-IN FRED HAVEMEYER FOR TOWN SUPERVISOR

EVERY VOTE COUNTS

.

By HamptonClassic (108), Southampton on Oct 26, 17 10:58 PM
Jay and Tommy John should start the "hypocrite" party. They made it very clear at the debate in Hampton Bays that the illegal use of motels in Hampton Bays was a "Hampton Bays" problem - certainly not a Southampton Village or North Sea problem. They should be ashamed of themselves. Tommy John is on the Sag Harbor School Board and they just approved an expansion - I think there are motels in Sag Harbor, right? Jay has a motel in Montauk, why isn't he using his motel for residents. Frauds all ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 27, 17 8:37 AM
Where, HB Proud, where did Jay Schneiderman or Tommy John Schiavoni say anything at the Hampton Bays debate to suggest that either of them thinks illegal motel use is a "Hampton Bays problem" for which the Town has no responsibility? Show us the words.

I know that's a tough challenge, and you'd have to go to the SEA-TV film to look for the words, but when you make a serious accusation like that, you have to be ready to back it up, especially when you say that "they made it very clear." ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1957), Quiogue on Oct 27, 17 11:45 AM
Yes when Tommy John called it "workers" housing and only suggested some additional funding...NEVER suggested to move to Sag Harbor did her??? Jay's silence on is alleged plan that doesn't exist is deafening.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 27, 17 11:54 AM
I said show us the words, HB Proud, and you have not done it.
What's wrong with calling it workers housing or workforce housing? To me, that gives it a stronger appeal, since a lot of people associate "affordable housing" with loafers and welfare cheats. This is for people who work, who do the jobs we must have done in this town, like police, ambulance, health care, teachers, et al.

And how in the world does Tommy John's calling it workers housing leave it in the lap of Hampton ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1957), Quiogue on Oct 28, 17 12:48 PM
..and Jay was shocked that the Hills developers "forgot" to post the official notice?
Seems to me that made postponing the vote conveniently AFTER the election. See ya, Jay. I'd rather vote for a Republican who stands by his position than an opportunist whose position can be bought. This entire PDD debacle is so lacking in integrity. Anyone with any intelligence can see right through Jay Schneiderman. I am writing in Havemayer.
By zappy (57), east quogue on Oct 27, 17 10:31 AM
Havemeyer for Supervisor! Tommy John & Julie for Town Board!!!!!
By Taz (689), East Quogue on Oct 27, 17 10:54 AM
Is Jay still a democrat?
By HB salvation (19), Hampton bays on Oct 27, 17 10:29 PM
What day of the week is it?
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 17 11:08 AM
TB, you seriously must get paid by the word. The"Hampton Bays is great" argument is the mantra for not wanting to deal with the issues. It is very transparent. It is almost like you want to build a wall to make sure none of the issues of Hampton Bays push to the east - tool late you already had the attempted rape and sexual assault in the Village. Shame on you for not knowing the legal definitions of affordable housing. Most of us actually do. No where did Jay or Tommy John offer solutions ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 17 3:11 PM
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By turkeyloser (22), east quogue on Oct 28, 17 10:17 PM
Just another crook! Plain and simple. Trump has proven to ALL of us one thing. Not what you know, it’s who you know! We are all the fools
By Bohay (18), Watermill on Oct 29, 17 11:05 AM
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By Bohay (18), Watermill on Oct 29, 17 11:05 AM
Bohay,

WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN FOOLED ONCE ,,BUT THAT'S OVER !

SCHNEIDERMAN AND OVERTON BOTH SAY "YES" TO "THE HILLS PDD"

WRITE-IN FRED HAVEMEYER FOR TOWN SUPERVISOR

VOTE NOVEMBER 7
By HamptonClassic (108), Southampton on Oct 29, 17 2:36 PM
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Freddy is a great guy, but he’s a one trick pony.
By Draggerman (930), Southampton on Oct 29, 17 5:56 PM
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No one should vote for Schneiderman if they want truth, transparency and fiscal responsibility in local government. . Overton has been transparent about his decision and his reasons about the Hills. He seems like a stand up guy that just doesn't want a vote but wants voters respect and trust. Jay has taken advantage of his position as Town Supervisor for photo ops and press conferences just like the one day extravaganza at Good Ground Park last year for his buddy Anna....and there are still no ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 29, 17 3:44 PM
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Draggerman The environment and our quality of life, here on the East End is hardly a single issue. Fred Havemeyer represents the last chance to save what is so crucial to all who love this area, Hardly a "one trick pony".

Write in Fred Havemeyer for Southampton Town Supervisor.
By SpeedRacer (152), Southampton on Oct 29, 17 8:01 PM
Throughout this campaign season, Councilwoman Julie Lofstad and Town Board Candidate Tommy John Schiavoni have stated "NO" to "The Hills PDD". More than once, Stan Glinka has refused to give the voters an answer, stating "I have to respect the Developer". And then there is Thea Fry, who has no clue about the PDD, all she can say is "Trust Me".

VOTE FOR TWO WHO WILL WORK FOR YOU ...

JULIE LOFSTAD & TOMMY JOHN SCHIAVONI

VOTE ON NOVEMBER 7
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By HamptonClassic (108), Southampton on Oct 29, 17 8:45 PM
You are counting your chickens before they are hatched. Julie has gone along with Jay on everything since day 1 and when pressed as to an explanation as to why she voted the way she did, she could not come up with it. Please do not say Tommy John and Julie will work for us - you don't know that and to date Julie just has gone along with Jay. In HB that means, not addressing the overcrowded housing, top heavy management with understaffed code enforcement, approving "longevity" payments, dumpling ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 30, 17 5:34 AM
Julie hasn't always gone along with Jay. She was instrumental in helping to get the Speonk Workforce housing apartments down to a number that the community felt comfortable with. Julie has also established a panel that is looking for ways to spread out affordable housing throughout SH Town, thus limiting sudden and extreme density impacts. She's a thoughtful and pragmatic councilwoman, and deserves re-election IMO. Tommy J is a good candidate, but I'd rather have Stan on the board. I'm not a fan ...more
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Oct 30, 17 10:08 AM
You are kidding about the "sudden and extreme density issues" when Hampton bays has almost 500 motel units that for the most part are being used as de facto affordable housing with almost 100 children in the school district. When Speonk has that kind of density, let's see who you support.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 30, 17 10:27 AM
I'm not saying that the HB problem doesn't exist. I was just pointing out that Julie hasn't always walked lockstep with Jay.
I actually agree and sympathize with you about the overcrowding issue. It's unfair, unsafe and needs to be addressed. In my dealings with this town board I've found them accessible and considerate of our issues. That said, politics is a ship that turns slowly, so keep talking to them and work on solutions. You may be surprised how receptive they are to that. Hampton Bays ...more
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Oct 30, 17 11:51 AM
See, HB Proud can't (or doesn't want to) control that base nastiness. He snarls that Tommy John Schiavoni "NEVER suggested (affordable housing) to move to Sag Harbor," and he answers Craigcat saying, "When Speonk has that kind of density, let's see who you support."

It's just a Trumpish, playground insult kind of mentality, that I find especially repugnant. Craigcat's saying what I said above, which is, get out and do some practical work for Hampton Bays, taking advantage of its extraordinary ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1957), Quiogue on Oct 30, 17 12:19 PM
TB Yes that "base nastiness" - that is the other mantra of your committee. Attack the person when you can't attack the issues. You are all very transparent,. There are almost 500 motel rooms in Hampton Bays of which many are used as illegal housing with 100 kids going to the school. The school has written to the Town repeatedly threatening lawsuits and still nothing. Jay has done nothing and has no plan - following along right behind Julie...John Bouvier saying it is all myths and now Tommy ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 30, 17 12:56 PM
and, TB, can you please stop taking the signs from HB for Row B. It is just plain childish.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 30, 17 2:42 PM
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Posting the signs is childish; removing them, more so.

Insulting voters by bombarding them with meaningless signs is an affront to every resident and an blight on our environment. They say nothing about what the candidate stands for, and apparently that's the way the candidates like it. Party line voters will not be swayed and those looking for issues will be disappointed.

Redirect the expense of the billboards to direct mailing that actually says something about the priorities ...more
Nov 6, 17 11:32 PM appended by VOS
Vote for people, not for parties.
By VOS (1224), WHB on Oct 30, 17 11:32 PM
The small lawns signs were put up last week - only two-three weeks before the election. While you may be informed, the rest of the community may not realize how important the election is. When the Library expansion was going on, I thought everyone knew and I was mistaken. Hampton Bays has about 6,000 registered voters and about 300 voted in the last regular library election. People focus on the National elections and miss how important the local election is. A few weeks of "sign pollution" ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 31, 17 7:10 AM
It is mind blowing that the turnout for local elections is so poor. People want to ignore the process, but complain about the outcome. We can't have it both ways.
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Oct 31, 17 9:50 AM
I will never stop believing in the power of communication, persistence, and solutions through compromise. Republican, Democrat, or Independent, on the local level we all have more in common than not. So at the risk of sounding hokey, I think we should focus on the positive and how we can work together. The alternative is exhausting and typically fruitless.
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Oct 31, 17 10:03 AM
HB Proud, I’ve never touched an opposition sign in all the years I’ve been doing this. The GOP Sign Dogs, however, are out in force this year. Many incidents of Dem signs disappearing from the main roads, and I came out the last two mornings to find signs in front of my house trashed. (No problem, I have plenty of spares.).

You guys must be really desperate this year to turn to that old stuff, and to accuse the other side of it as you have, HB Proud. Once again, it just goes ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1957), Quiogue on Oct 31, 17 9:06 AM
You should set up a camera and share videos of these fools.

Not necessarily to catch them, just to laugh at them.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (7586), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 9:55 AM
Who is responsible for removing the signs after election day? I typically pick up 10 or so by my road. I don't mind that they are displayed for a couple weeks, but there should be an organized effort to pick them up after the election.
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Oct 31, 17 9:47 AM
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TB, I realize it is probably not you personally taking signs, but some of your committee members or advocates in Hampton Bays - very childish behavior. It was very noticeable driving around after one overnight "raid" that a bunch of Row B went missing but yet all of the democratic signs were still there. CC, I agree, you would hope the people that put them up would take them down after next Tuesday. Hope springs eternal.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 31, 17 12:15 PM
"What's wrong with calling it workers housing or workforce housing?"

I prefer to call it "migrant housing," and since most of this work is out east, all towns (and taxpayers) should help with this crisis. But I won't be voting for Tommy John because he doesn't understand what the folks in Hamptons Bays are dealing with.
By pigroast (100), East Quogue on Oct 31, 17 2:38 PM
cc, by definition, stabbing, sexual assaults, home invasions are negative and you can't ignore them and say "let's focus on the positive" - yes it is exhausting - so is being a good parent. t is not about focusing to the positive or the negative, it is being realistic and having those charged with the responsibility of dealing with the negative - deal with it. Instead Jay and his deputy Frank are more concerned about concerts at GGP (the latest press release) then dealing with underlying problems ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Oct 31, 17 7:25 PM
Understood. So you'll likely vote for the opposition, as is your right. The point is, no matter who you vote for, or who wins, you'll still have to engage them on a consistent basis. So I go in with a positive outlook and offer solutions while remaining persistent.
I do know this, the default method of screaming, finger pointing, and personal attacks rarely work.
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Nov 1, 17 11:00 AM
HBP - have you spoken with your CAC and Civic Assoc?
Have you set up personal meetings with each town board member? Doing this with the assistance of the CAC and Civic Assoc helps.
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Nov 1, 17 11:05 AM
And finally, if any of these motels are participating in the section 8 voucher program, the property owner is subject to maintenance and occupancy standards. What you need to do is find out who administers the voucher (The Southampton Town Housing Authority, The county, or perhaps the state) and request assistance.
Also, stay engaged with the local code enforcement officer if you haven't already.
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Nov 1, 17 11:16 AM
CC, the community has been engaged with the Board for more than 5 years through the efforts of the CCHB and the CAC, without moving the needle of the USE issue one bit. The new head of code enforcement said at the last CAC meeting that they left 17 people in a single family house and all the people in the motels with the roaches and bed bugs, but heck they put batteries in the smoke detectors. John Bouvier said it was all "fake news" and Jay warned us to be quiet otherwise another $1 million deal ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Nov 1, 17 11:33 AM
So in your opinion what is needed to fix the problem? I mean in a practical way. I don't see hundreds of people suddenly thrown out and becoming homeless in the dead of night.
What would you like done and how can it be done?
I'm not baiting, I honestly want to know.
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Nov 1, 17 11:55 AM
This is the same circular argument that Jay and his administration has used. First of all by definition it is THEIR responsibility to come up with a solution not ours. Jay has 20 years experience in government and campaigned two years ago that he had a "plan" that never materialized. Second, who says these people are going to be homeless? Where do you get that from (their argument too). How did they get to the motels? What makes you think that they can't get somewhere else the same way? Those ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Nov 1, 17 12:23 PM
Why is it that every time I ask you a question you assume that I'm arguing with you? I'm trying to understand why no action has been taken on this, and what is the best solution to the problem. Town Board members aren't mystical people with all the answers. Sometimes you need to offer something. If Jay is who you say he is, then vote for Ray. If you think Thea will do more for you than Julie (doubtful - watch the debates) then vote for Thea. Again, whoever is on that board will have a long list ...more
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Nov 1, 17 12:52 PM
cc, I don't see how my comments are argumentative with you. I am pointing out that the Town Board along with the proposed $99 million in Town budget, all the County, State and Federal resources are the responsible parties and resources to come up with the solution. Asking a resident to do it is deflecting their responsibility and incredibly ineffective and unproductive. I don't see how you don't see that. Jay, Julie and John said they had a plan when they ran 2 years ago and now they have been ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Nov 1, 17 2:15 PM
My experience with the TB has been entirely different, but that doesn't mean you aren't entitled to your opinion. At the very least you are engaged and voting with purpose. I do a lot of community work and hope to do a lot more. Perhaps our paths will cross and we'll do some good sometime. I hope this issue is resolved. HB could and should be a thriving town. I honestly wish the best for you.
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Nov 1, 17 4:17 PM
No surprise your experience is different. Let me ask you this: How many illegally used motels are there in SpeonK? What about restaurants that have turned into strip clubs? How many houses have 17 people living in them? How many gang stabbings have you had? How many BMW's have been stolen by gang members? Sure they are agreeable when you want to take away 4 affordable housing units from a project. They don't want to or incapable of dealing with the difficult issues and they are more than ...more
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Nov 1, 17 5:07 PM
How many illegally used motels are there in SpeonK? None that I know of.
What about restaurants that have turned into strip clubs? One which is long rumored to be a front for nefarious activity.
How many houses have 17 people living in them? A few, though it's hard to pinpoint an exact number.
How many gang stabbings have you had? I don't know. One murder a few years back involving an undocumented immigrant.
How many BMW's have been stolen by gang members? A lot of break-ins, though ...more
By Craigcat (255), Speonk on Nov 2, 17 10:31 AM
Throw the guy out. Vote row "B" on Nov 7th. Exception Vote for Alex Gregor on row "A" he is doing a good job.

See if someone else is willing to help Hampton Bays return to a tourist destination by forcing Motel owners to conform to the Zoning Law that limits owners to using motels for transient customers not full time work force housing and illegal apartments. Just enforce the existing laws not just the laws you like. Jay is part owner of the Breakers Motel in Montauk so I guess he has ...more
By Ernie (88), Hampton Bays on Nov 2, 17 12:28 PM
Hot Tubs,SALE, Southampton Village, SouthamptonFest weekend