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Mar 13, 2019 10:22 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Shinnecock Nation Considering Other School Districts For Students

Shinnecock Tribal Trustee lance Gumbs.  PRESS FILE
Mar 14, 2019 3:03 PM

Shinnecock Indian Nation officials planned to meet with Southampton School District administrators on Wednesday, March 13, and deliver an ultimatum: Either make changes within the district to better support Shinnecock students, or they will find other schools to receive their children—and the state funds the children provide.

Tribal Trustee Lance Gumbs said Tuesday that the Nation is “fed up” with the school district’s treatment of the approximately 130 Shinnecock children. He said they are underachieving in the district because they do not have enough of a staff support system, and because they are disproportionately targeted when it comes to disciplinary measures.

“We had a tribe meeting where a large number of parents turned out to discuss the issue of their children, and it was overwhelming that people just don’t want to send their children to Southampton schools anymore from our community,” Mr. Gumbs said, referring to a tribal meeting that took place several weeks ago.

The current five-year agreement between New York State and the school district to send all Shinnecock students to Southampton schools expires in June, so the Wednesday meeting is intended to bring the tribe and the district together to discuss the terms of a new agreement, which would take effect July 1 if approved. The contract provides millions of dollars in state financial aid to the chosen school district in the form of reimbursement.

But because the Shinnecock Nation chooses where it wants to enroll its schoolage children under the contract, Mr. Gumbs said the tribe has the opportunity to consider a different district.

“There’s been a resurgence in our community to pay attention to what is transpiring with our children in the school district, and, obviously, these contract negotiations are bringing a lot of things to light that have been affecting our community for quite some time,” Mr. Gumbs said. “We have the opportunity now to either address those issues or make a change.”

Under the agreement, which has been in place for decades and renewed periodically, all Shinnecock students living on the reservation must attend the Southampton School District from kindergarten through 12th grade, unless approvals are otherwise given for a student to attend a different school district.

The contract authorizes the state to provide funding to the school district for the cost of educating Shinnecock students, as Shinnecock residents do not pay school taxes, Southampton Superintendent Nicholas Dyno said. The state provided $26 million under the current five-year contract, the State Education Department confirmed, and funding for the new contract is not yet determined. A tuition contract proposal has not yet been submitted to the state but the amount will be based on the state-issued Native American tuition reimbursement rate per Shinnecock student in the district, according to the department.

For the 2017-2018 school year, the Native American tuition rate for Southampton averaged $25,502 per student and $58,640 per student with a disability. Comparably, the non-resident tuition rate—charged to non-resident students attending Southampton schools that is based on the cost of instructing a Southampton student—averaged $28,325 per student and $91,498 per student with a disability, according to Jean Mingot, Southampton’s assistant superintendent of business. Every school district receives its own calculated rates based on costs.

“The Southampton School District is committed to providing a quality education for all students, including our students from the Shinnecock Indian Nation,” School Board member Michael Medio said. “We value our relationship with the tribe and look forward to working with them to ensure all students continue to receive a well-rounded education.”

Presently, the school district has one community liaison stationed at the high school to support Shinnecock students, as mandated under the contract. Mr. Gumbs said that the tribe is planning to ask at the meeting for a liaison in each of the district’s three schools, citing a problem that they face at the intermediate school in particular.

“Our children, we’re losing them there,” he said of the intermediate school. “They’re just giving up when they’re getting in the high school, and it’s stemming from the academic treatment that they’ve received in the intermediate school.”

Mr. Gumbs said the tribe is looking at several school districts in the area and even private schools as alternatives.

In 2013, during the renewal period for the current contract, Shinnecock officials explored other school district options as well. They considered switching to the Tuckahoe School District, a kindergarten-through-eighth grade school. It was unclear where they would send high school students.

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By USAfirst (6), Hampton Bays on Mar 14, 19 7:42 AM
Does that mean the SUFD will change the name of the holiday back to Columbus Day?
By deepchanel (74), Hampton Bays on Mar 14, 19 8:18 AM
They don't even celebrate Columbus Day in Italy, fighting for nothing.
By adczeta (71), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 3:33 PM
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That's a no brainer - Columbus didn't discover Italy.......... and now you can go on with the history lesson you're going to give me.
By HamptonDad (203), Hampton Bays on Mar 14, 19 3:53 PM
What exactly did he discover? I believe there were people here already.i think that’s settled history.
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 4:22 PM
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There is ample evidence there were people here before the "Native Americans" as well. Maybe these invaders should go back across the Bering Straight where they came from?
By MoronEliminator (168), Montauk on Mar 14, 19 6:40 PM
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What are you talking about? Indigenous Americans are the descendents of the people who crossed the Bering Strait.

It's Leif Erikson who later stumbled across the contingent but never settled.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5915), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 16, 19 7:36 AM
He’s trying to quantify his comments. Right now he’s backed into a corner with no way out, meaning his narrative is weak,
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 16, 19 8:15 AM
"disproportionately targeted when it comes to disciplinary measures" To be fair, the Nation should be open to discussing the behaviors which are leading to disciplinary measures. Just saying.
By East End 2 (139), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 9:09 AM
Disproportionately targeting the people committing a disproportionate number of acts of violence, as most parents with students in that school know.
By MoronEliminator (168), Montauk on Mar 14, 19 6:41 PM
You mean proportionate discipline for disproportionate acts?
By East End 2 (139), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 7:44 PM
The Nation’s children should go wherever they feel they get the best results for their kids, if that’s their deal with the State. I wish them all good things. Not so much Lance, who can’t help but turn it into more victimhood, more vitriol, and more media attention.
By CPalmer (40), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 9:19 AM
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By C Law (337), Water Mill on Mar 15, 19 11:08 AM
$26 million divided by 5 years divided by 130 students is $40,000 per student per year. Hire Ivy League & MIT graduates and have a tutor for every 2 students. It's ludicrous for the nation to buy into the dysfunctional Long Island school system -- do right by your kids and do it yourself. It's time to leave the blame game behind and get your kids $40,000 per year of education, not pay through your nose for some social science experiment, whining, self indulgent "we can't make it" welfare mindset ...more
By dfree (694), hampton bays on Mar 14, 19 9:26 AM
... the Shinnecocks should build their own school, k-8. Provide the basis they are looking for and then send their students to local high schools.
By William Rodney (531), southampton on Mar 14, 19 9:47 AM
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nothing like a bunch of internet commenters to reveal our own idiocy ... like a well oiled machine.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (634), southampton on Mar 14, 19 10:08 AM
don't forget good old fashioned racism
By johnj (960), Westhampton on Mar 14, 19 10:35 AM
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By USAfirst (6), Hampton Bays on Mar 15, 19 10:45 AM
No student should be subjected to Southampton School District.
Garbage curriculum & adult bullies.
By April1 (151), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 10:46 AM
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I just love when the true colors of our community members come out! It’s refreshing to know our kids are in school with yours and this type of mind set is being taught at home! Amazing! And to the citizen in the back... that math is correct apx 40,000$ per student! And the times are changing, students are changing and their parents are changing! We want better for ours the same as your own so if Ivy League education is what 40k will afford then that’s what we will have. No one is whining, ...more
By shlady09 (9), southampton on Mar 14, 19 10:48 AM
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Excuse me “educate” yours. Thank you
By shlady09 (9), southampton on Mar 14, 19 10:49 AM
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It would have been helpful if Lance Gumbs possessed the ability to describe the treatment he doesn't like. Because neither this:

"“There’s been a resurgence in our community to pay attention to what is transpiring with our children in the school district, and, obviously, these contract negotiations are bringing a lot of things to light that have been affecting our community for quite some time,” Mr. Gumbs said. “We have the opportunity now to either address those ...more
By SlimeAlive (1144), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 11:04 AM
I think the nation would do well in Hampton Bays schools
By C Law (337), Water Mill on Mar 14, 19 11:05 AM
"Thank you peanut gallery, education yours we will educate ours"
Take the $40,000 per year per student and educate your children. Stop subsidizing the Long Island teacher's union with $150,000 per year teacher's pay packages and $300,000+ per year pay packages for Superintendents that do nothing for the Nation. Hire some bright Ivy League education and math majors fresh out of college and make your children learn. Stop blaming others for your problems.
By dfree (694), hampton bays on Mar 14, 19 11:37 AM
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I agree. Start your own charter school. 130x40 = 5.2m/yr. Clearly, there is a need there and there are funds to do it.

Also, if you add in health insurance and a defined benefit plan, most teachers on the east end are north of 200k/yr.
By C Law (337), Water Mill on Mar 14, 19 12:31 PM
They aren't going anywhere. Empty threats using NY State taxpayer's dollars as leverage.
By SlimeAlive (1144), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 1:12 PM
I had both my children educated in Southampton School District and I think it is a great school system.
All students are given opportunities to achieve.
By BonnieSchmidt (1), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 12:39 PM
the thing is that your two children are not actually all children and you may be unaware of nuanced issues faced by the children who are not yours
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (634), southampton on Mar 14, 19 1:55 PM
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Why don't you explain the nuanced issues faced by the children who aren't hers?
By SlimeAlive (1144), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 7:32 PM
Why don't you explain how one parent can understand the experiences of all of the SH school students and their parents.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (634), southampton on Mar 15, 19 9:35 AM
Didn't think so.
By SlimeAlive (1144), Southampton on Mar 15, 19 12:12 PM
Also didn't think so.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (634), southampton on Mar 15, 19 2:09 PM
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By USAfirst (6), Hampton Bays on Mar 14, 19 1:20 PM
What the Shinnecocks need are parents who will insure that their children behave and pay attention in class. Also, back up the teachers who are trying to educate your children. The Shinnecocks have no one to blame but themselves. Instill discipline and good study habits.
By P. Revere (129), hampton Bays on Mar 14, 19 1:50 PM
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They are a "sovereign" nation, why don't they build their own school where they can indulge their spirited youth.
By Preliator Lives (374), Obamavillie on Mar 14, 19 2:19 PM
Great comments. I don’t understand why you all don’t go to a tribal Trustee meeting and bring all these issues up.
Mar 14, 19 2:29 PM appended by Fred s
I should have put an “s” for snark next to my comment. I don’t want it to appear I agree with the majority of the comments
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 2:29 PM
We like breathing.
By Preliator Lives (374), Obamavillie on Mar 15, 19 11:22 AM
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Your fears are unfounded. Instead of making horrible comments about a whole group of people, maybe get to know them. You will be pleasantly surprised.they are no different then you or I.
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 15, 19 11:44 AM
It's funny all these comments but when one of Tribal members became the first Native to be accepted to Oxford, crickets, nothing. Grow up, picka book or for the lazy, just Google. If proper education of Native history was taught in the school, people wouldn't be so ignorant.
By adczeta (71), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 3:35 PM
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By chief1 (2637), southampton on Mar 14, 19 3:49 PM
Chief, I’m not following you. I myself am on the reservation maybe 3 times a week. I have friends there, been friends for over 40 yrs. can you tell me where all the drug dealing is taking place. If you think tribal members are for drugs and dealing, you are sadly mistaken.the res is a microcosm of society as a whole, no different then anywhere else as far as I can tell. The big difference is everyone waves to you on the res, that doesn’t happen anywhere else.
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 4:15 PM
If anyone would know about the inner-workings of the Reservation, it would be the Chief.
By Pacman (240), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 4:37 PM
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Ok, I was wrong no problems on the rez.
By chief1 (2637), southampton on Mar 14, 19 4:41 PM
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I never said that Chief , there are problems everywhere.
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 4:51 PM
Wow these comments are just disgraceful. Ya'll grown adults on here talking about KIDS. You have nothing better to do with your sad lives than make racist comments on the internet about children all day? Absolutely pathetic and I feel bad for YOUR children.
By LMVT (53), Shinnecock Indian Reservation on Mar 14, 19 7:52 PM
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By NateNewtown (80), east on Mar 14, 19 8:42 PM
Absolutely DISGUSTING remark Nate! Your comment spews racism. And for the Press to allow this comment, I think it’s time I cancel my subscription.
By toes in the water (758), southampton on Mar 15, 19 7:12 AM
Great post NateNewtown. Statistics do not back up your diatribe.im sure your comment will be gone by morning. Here’s a few stats to dispel your vicious attack.....Social factors such as class and intelligence predict anti-social behaviors of many kinds — but those factors do not account for racial disparities in school punishments.
African-American children do not engage in more serious forms of misbehavior. In fact, research by Russell Skiba and his colleagues shows ...more
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 9:34 PM
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May I suggest home schooling for the Shinnecock tribel children.
By watchdog1 (515), Southampton on Mar 14, 19 9:52 PM
How about everyone simply just get the **** over themselves?
By Mr. Z (11018), North Sea on Mar 14, 19 11:02 PM
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By P. Revere (129), hampton Bays on Mar 14, 19 11:50 PM
I simply cannot believe the hateful comments being allowed here. This community gives more support to illegal immigrants than we do our local Native American Tribe . What the ????

God Bless the Shinnecock Nation!
By toes in the water (758), southampton on Mar 15, 19 7:25 AM
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You've touched on why they are mad. They aren't the minority anymore. That's always why they would never go to Tuckahoe or Hampton Bays. They would be less of a minority in those schools.
By SlimeAlive (1144), Southampton on Mar 15, 19 8:06 AM
They? Your post makes zero sense
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 15, 19 8:30 AM
How about treating all humans equally?
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 15, 19 7:30 AM
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By themarlinspike (211), southampton on Mar 15, 19 8:01 AM
The blame game pw? Look back a little bit in history , and come back with another example.
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 15, 19 9:10 AM
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By themarlinspike (211), southampton on Mar 15, 19 9:51 AM
So you indict a whole race of people for it? Good one
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 15, 19 9:57 AM
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By themarlinspike (211), southampton on Mar 16, 19 8:22 AM
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By themarlinspike (211), southampton on Mar 17, 19 8:56 AM
Happy St. Patty's day, PW!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5915), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 17, 19 9:43 AM
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By themarlinspike (211), southampton on Mar 17, 19 9:56 AM
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By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (634), southampton on Mar 17, 19 4:35 PM
Columbus Day still comes once a year.
Mar 18, 19 8:34 AM appended by themarlinspike
Just Like Christmas !!!
By themarlinspike (211), southampton on Mar 18, 19 8:34 AM
It's an amazing opportunity for the Nation to be able to educate outside of the Long Island public school union mandates, costs and prohibitions. Take the $5 million per year and hire tutors to guide your children on a personal education that is tailored to each Childs strengths. Every university in the country would bend over backwards to admit a well educated native American with decent standardized test scores. Get away from the local education dysfunctional schools and create lawyers, doctors, ...more
By dfree (694), hampton bays on Mar 15, 19 9:03 AM
I don't think the state just hands them a check for $5M every year.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5915), HAMPTON BAYS on Mar 15, 19 11:01 AM
The reservation system has created a group of people who have been marginalized by being separated from the rest of the country and made dependent upon the US government for nearly everything they have. That is a recipe for creating a population who can't make it on their own merits. The best thing the Nation could do would be to get the hell of the Rez and refuse the government handouts.
By Babyboo (265), Hampton Bays on Mar 15, 19 6:07 PM
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If they didn’t want to lose their minority status and the perks that brings , they shouldn’t have voted for open border democrats. We tried to warn you.
By SlimeAlive (1144), Southampton on Mar 16, 19 7:12 AM
Can’t make it on their own merits? Tell that to to ones who were police officers , members of the military. Tell it to the teachers and lawyers. Baby boo you have a very narrow view. Shinnecocks are proud people , your narrow view is only meant to further your view of people you obviously know nothing about.
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 16, 19 7:13 AM
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By Babyboo (265), Hampton Bays on Mar 17, 19 1:48 PM
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By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 17, 19 5:24 PM
"People, I just want to say, you know, can we all JUST get along? Can we get along? Can we stop making it, making it horrible for the older people and the kids? … It’s just not right. It’s not right. It’s not, it’s not going to change anything. We’ll, we’ll get our justice … Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try ...more
By SlimeAlive (1144), Southampton on Mar 18, 19 8:14 AM
Agree slimey
By Fred s (2186), Southampton on Mar 18, 19 9:15 AM
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