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Apr 29, 2011 2:00 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Southampton Town Board Appoints Wilson As Police Chief

May 4, 2011 12:00 PM

With a standing-room-only audience that spilled out into the hallway at Southampton Town Hall looking on, the Town Board on Monday appointed Southampton Village Police Chief William Wilson Jr. as chief of the Southampton Town Police Department, marking the end of a controversial search for a new leader that spanned weeks.

Chief Wilson was appointed by a 4-1 vote, with Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst, Councilmen Jim Malone and Chris Nuzzi, and Councilwoman Bridget Fleming all voting in favor of the appointment, which was the sole item on the agenda at Monday’s special meeting. Councilwoman Nancy Graboski opposed the appointment. Chief Wilson’s first day on the job will be Monday, May 16.

Nearly 50 people, mostly village, town and a few New York State Police officers lined the sides of the board’s meeting room, with some standing behind the Town Board as it made the appointment.

Before the board acted, many people spoke about the high profile decision. Some residents were upset that the Town Board voted to appoint Chief Wilson over Town Police Captain Anthony Tenaglia, who was viewed by some as the obvious successor to Chief James P. Overton, who retired in April.

Last month, the board was reportedly poised to hire Capt. Tenaglia after interviewing him, but a majority changed course, calling for Chief Wilson to be interviewed as well, prompting accusations of political deals leading to the appointment. Those accusations were denied by Town Board members, who then announced that they would also interview three Town Police lieutenants: Robert Iberger, Robert Pearce and Lawrence Schurek.

“I am outraged by this resolution tonight you are considering,” said an angry Marietta Seaman, a former town councilwoman and town clerk. “Why? Because Captain Tenaglia is the most qualified.” She went on to challenge the experience of Ms. Throne-Holst, Ms. Fleming and Mr. Malone, all of whom she noted have been in office for less than three years.

“How much time has your interaction been with the police department?” she asked. “You’re still learning your jobs, let alone how to run the police department.”

Ms. Throne-Holst called the captain last Friday afternoon to tell him the board was going to appoint Chief Wilson, Capt. Tenaglia said in an interview on Monday. He said that while he was disappointed, he respected the Town Board’s decision. He plans to stay at the department as captain. He also called Monday night’s appointment political. “Any chief’s job is a political decision,” Capt. Tenaglia said.

It was learned earlier this week, after Chief Wilson’s appointment, that an ethics complaint had been filed within the last two months against Capt. Tenaglia by an unidentified Town Police officer. When asked Wednesday morning about the complaint, Capt. Tenaglia—who said he has not seen a copy of the document—said he believes it is related to union matters and noted that he serves as president of the Southampton Town Superior Officers Association, a group that includes all of the Town Police department’s sergeants and lieutenants.

Capt. Tenaglia also said that the complaint was filed to hurt his chances of becoming chief.

“I know what this was from the very beginning,” Capt. Tenaglia said. “This was a way to try to discredit me and stop me from getting the position of chief of police.”

Ms. Throne-Holst confirmed that a complaint has been filed against Capt. Tenaglia, but declined to divulge any information or identify the officer who filed it. She also said that the complaint did not influence her decision to hire Chief Wilson.

Others who spoke at the podium on Monday evening voiced support for Chief Wilson and lauded his credentials.

The audience burst into applause after Katherine Cantrell, the wife of the late Frederick “Woody” Cantrell, a town officer who died last December, endorsed Chief Wilson’s appointment. She said in his 29 years at the department, her husband was well known.

“He was famous for his smile and his kindness and today he is looking down on all of you and he’s smiling because you picked Billy Wilson,” Ms. Cantrell said.

“I know that these guys and girls at the Town of Southampton Police Department are going to be okay,” said Southampton Village Police Sergeant Sue Hurteau, who endorsed the hiring of Chief Wilson. “I know we’re going to be okay too. Whatever your decision is, you go with your gut because if you go with Chief Wilson, it’s going to be nothing but good.”

Former Southampton Town Police detective and PBA President Charlie McArdle supported the board’s choice to conduct a search outside the department.

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While I am certainly out of the loop politically and geographically, it just seems like Tony Tenaglia got a raw deal here.
By Doug Penny (62), Lexington, Virginia on Apr 29, 11 2:35 PM
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It is a gob of spittle in the eye of Tony Tenaglia and the Lieutenants who've worked their way through the ranks.
By Frank Wheeler (1805), Northampton on Apr 29, 11 2:44 PM
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This is another example of outrageous behavior by our elected officials who put their own selfish and petty politcall interests above doing what is right and fair. Voters will hopefully remember this at the polls. I know I will.
By Maxa Luppi (7), Southampton on Apr 29, 11 2:46 PM
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WOW wasn't this the guy who had all the computer porn going on under his watch at the Village PD?
..and this is going to cost us a half million dollars!!!!
This Town Board has GOT to GO!!!.. just waiting for one of them to claim they are FISCAL CONSERVATIVES in the upcoming election...
THIS NOVEMEBR LET'S TAKE OUR TOWN BACK!!!!
KUDOS to the Captain,....an officer and a gentleman!
By lucklucy (9), Hampton Bays on Apr 29, 11 2:55 PM
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Absolutely correct, it will cost the taxpayers a lot of money. Yes, big kudos to the Captain. he deserved better than this.
By Maxa Luppi (7), Southampton on Apr 29, 11 3:07 PM
Jim Malone can not get voted out of office soon enough. What a self serving unethical individual.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Apr 29, 11 3:32 PM
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I knew this was coming but im still at a loss for words. These politicians are getting there way when do we get our way?
By GoldenBoy (333), EastEnd on Apr 29, 11 3:41 PM
Wow sad sad sad ,I am not a police officer I have No dog in this fight ,but something is NOT right here,we need the support of the police union to appoint a chief,,,,,,,,,,,,,no the police union will help to reelect the people now in political office,,,,,,,,,,,,bear that in mind next election,shame on you Malone you lost my vote
By Etians rd (490), Southampton on Apr 29, 11 4:20 PM
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I agree with Etians, you have no backbone Malone. I heard you came in late and left early so you would not have to face answering any questions. Do you really think you will be able to hide under Anna's skirt for the next 2 years? I hope Chris and Nancy will still vote no even though Anna controls the Board. Dump Malone, he is really shameful. Hold your head up high Tony, you are the professional.
By silverbeaver666 (8), westhampton on Apr 29, 11 4:45 PM
Well he does have another job to get to doesn't he?
By bb (826), Hampton Bays on Apr 29, 11 5:17 PM
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You always want to try to promote from within. It tends to cause hate and discontent among the ranks if you don't. The only time I can see appointing an outsider is if there were serious problems within the department and they are trying to go in a new direction.
By BruceB (141), Sag Harbor on Apr 29, 11 5:25 PM
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All you people are so clueless. If you followed Southampton Town Police issues you would know that for years the department has been defending itself from various lawsuits, millions waisted on radio systems that don't work, computers in vehicles that can only check drivers license, fire departments and ambulances departments that refuse to use already tax paid dispatchers, an agency that won't work other law enforcement governments, oh and so much more. The department has been stale for years with ...more
By NYfacts (1), Southampton on Apr 29, 11 5:31 PM
I hope the reason for hiring Wilson is the result of our current police staff not meeting the qualifications of the Position Description. I hope the Police Department as well as all other Town Departments have Succession Planning in place. This plan provides the employee with the requirements and qualifications for promotion. It is the job of management to oversee this process. Every employee wants and needs to know they can be promoted to the next level. I hope future promotions will come from ...more
By auntof9 (132), Southampton on Apr 29, 11 5:34 PM
They are SOLD don't we see this SICK SICK SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where do we live???? We don't do anything to stop this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Bel (86), southampton on Apr 29, 11 5:54 PM
Stop What???
The Town Board hired a Chief of police. Calm down everybody.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Apr 29, 11 6:07 PM
They didn't hire him yet-this should be stopped !!!!
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Apr 29, 11 6:21 PM
Sounds like all of Anthony Tenaglia's friends are upset. I am sure there was a reason he wasn't the choice.
By Bama-Slama (41), Hampton bays on Apr 29, 11 6:22 PM
The fact is Tenaglia would have had the job if he had not been selfish and petty himself. This guy has made a career out of alienating people and burning bridges. His own actions over the past 20 years is the reason he didn't get the job, and I for one am happy he has to live with that for the rest of his life.
By The Truth Hurts (4), Hampton bays on Apr 29, 11 6:25 PM
It's always tough when a boss has to exercise his authority and the unruly ones don't like to be disciplined. Grow up boys.
By Oshaunnessey (11), Westhampton on Apr 30, 11 9:23 PM
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By MIKE JONES EAST QUOGUE, EAST QUOGUE on May 9, 11 10:40 PM
HELLO? Where is highatsize? there is a conspiracy theory here that he needs to use big words to explain. And if we're lucky, mr. Z will chime in too. Maybe its as simple as wilson interviewed the best, congrats, and move on.
By Bayman3142 (190), Southampton on Apr 29, 11 6:30 PM
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Nah, this is too rich to comment on...
By Mr. Z (10697), North Sea on Apr 29, 11 11:34 PM
Hey this is Southampton... He can keep both jobs and still have time for a private "security" gig on the side
By littleplains (305), olde england on Apr 29, 11 6:50 PM
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Hater with issues...
By oldskoolff (5), Southampton on Apr 30, 11 12:14 PM
What happens with Tenaglia now? Does he retire? Does he interview for the now vacant SHVPD Chief position?
By Duckbornandraised (181), Eastport on Apr 29, 11 7:01 PM
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Tenaglia is now a shoe in to replace Malone. He should run for town board.
By V.Tomanoku (675), southampton on Apr 29, 11 8:49 PM
What a disgrace the SH PBA and Suffolk County Conservative party is running the Town of Southampton. Assuming its the gang of 3 that is voting yes to appooint Wilson.
Malone is a liar he said he would step down a SH Town conservative leader should he win the council seat and resign as Deputy County Clerk. He has NOT. ATH and Bridget is just bought and sold by the PBA.
WHAT A DISGRACE THESE 3 ARE. I will not forget on election day.
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Apr 29, 11 7:17 PM appended by reg rep
Take a look at the You Tube of the "Police Protect in Southampton" this will explain just how much the PBA hated Capt. Tenaglia. This you tube is a disgrace the behavior of the speaker is disrespectful.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Apr 29, 11 7:17 PM
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ATH, Bridget and Malone the people of SH know that opening up the interviews to others was just smoke and mirrors. Wilson was your pick all the while. Difficult decision? RIGHT!
Apr 29, 11 7:21 PM appended by reg rep
Note to the SH Press: The article did not state if all 5 members of the board will vote yes to appoint Wilson.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Apr 29, 11 7:21 PM
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You have too much time on your hands, I hear majics pub is opening up again soon.
By Bayman3142 (190), Southampton on Apr 29, 11 7:27 PM
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By carson (79), southampton on Apr 29, 11 8:16 PM
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By carson (79), southampton on Apr 29, 11 8:36 PM
Hey Carson, why don't you do yourself a favor and take some spelling lessons and while your at it some intelligence lessons as well because I am sure that I am not the only person offended by your vulgar and immature statements. People have a right to an opinion., but if you want to be taken serious, i think you need to clean up your act!
By whp (20), East Quogue on Apr 29, 11 9:43 PM
Cannot believe that the Town wants the Chief of the scandal riddled 6.2 square miles of jurisdiction, how do you think he's going to handle 145 square miles? Oh yeah, hire all his good buddies from the Village......
By DiDi (16), Southampton on Apr 29, 11 11:34 PM
Chief Wilson DISCOVERED the wrong-doing and cleaned house! What else could anyone want of him?!
By oldskoolff (5), Southampton on May 4, 11 3:27 PM
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Why do so many here think the best person for the job was to be found within 15 miles of Town Hall? There's a big country out there with a lot of highly educated, highly experienced police professionals who could have brought a lot to the table.

If civil service regulations really require such a limited search (reports show differences of opinion on that) it's time to change those regulations so the next time this slot needs to be filled it can be filled by the best man or woman available.
By VOS (1139), WHB on Apr 30, 11 12:33 AM
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While I've come to expect the political shenanigans from ATH and her clone, I am thoroughly disgusted with the Judas, Malone. To further his own political ambitions he has now shown his willingness to sell his soul for the possibility of a judgeship. Losing Tenaglia, an outstanding professional leader, is a shameful reflection of of how the tail (SH-PBA et/al) wags the body (of certain members of the town board).
By Tennyson (77), Quogue on Apr 30, 11 10:08 AM
I am writing this not because of who will be appointed as chief of the Southampton Town Police Department but WHY. Accusations have been circulating that this appointment was done because the Southampton PBA endorsed Mr. Wilson. The other accusation is that the Suffolk County Sheriff’s office and the Suffolk County Conservative leader are pushing for Mr. Wilson as well. If this were true, appointing someone as chief for these reasons would be dishonest.

When we elect people to the ...more
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Apr 30, 11 10:25 AM
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Key words of your lengthy post.....ACCUSATIONS AND RUMORS. Why don't we try to base our posts on facts and truth? I am almost embarassed to be a member of the republican party seeing the behavior of late. I am sure Wilson will do a fine job leading this outstanding police agency.
By Bama-Slama (41), Hampton bays on Apr 30, 11 12:03 PM
"Rumors have it that a relationship ensued between Anna and the lawyer ..." Naughty me, I thought you were talking about Bridget. I forgot about what's his name... What's a comfort dog?...
By V.Tomanoku (675), southampton on Apr 30, 11 12:16 PM
Interesting perspective reg rep. Who do you think should have been selected as chief?
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Apr 30, 11 1:42 PM
Where exactly did Bridget Fleming say that part about Wilson being born in Southampton Hospital as a reason for hiring him? Did you make that up, or did she actually say that?
By Frank Wheeler (1805), Northampton on May 1, 11 2:10 PM
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By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 2, 11 8:22 AM
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By V.Tomanoku (675), southampton on May 2, 11 12:23 PM
Fleming noted that Wilson was born in Southampton Hospital and has spent 25 years in law enforcement.
By just breath (82), East Moriches on May 3, 11 10:24 AM
Quote out-of-context. BF was explaining the Chief Wilson was LOCAL and known throughout the town. Sometimes I wonder if some folks went to the same Board meeting I did...
By oldskoolff (5), Southampton on May 4, 11 3:34 PM
Ed Walsh and the Suffolk County PD have spoken and Malone has obeyed!
Now its up to Wilson to make the SHPD a conservative party stronghold just like the SCPD to enhance the strength of the SH PBA!
By ridiculous (214), hampton bays on Apr 30, 11 10:55 AM
All the candidates from within the STPD were GOOD candidates! I applaud the town board for selecting the BEST candidate for the job! I view Chief Wilson's appointment as the "more difficult" decision to make. It would have been easy to appoint the "heir apparent" and not subject themselves to ridicule (see above). I see it as Chief Wilson brought more of what the town board was looking for to the table (i.e. plan for the future of the department). Maybe if the town board was happy with the department ...more
By oldskoolff (5), Southampton on Apr 30, 11 12:09 PM
The town board takes weeks to interview and appoint a Police chief and you all get indignant and mortified. The real gang of three, Nuzzi, Graboski, and Malone make a clearly political appointment of Kratoville and you were all silent. The party took a hit on this one, stop embarassing yourselves.
By Bama-Slama (41), Hampton bays on Apr 30, 11 12:15 PM
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Nice try on the spin Bama-Slama
Who was silent on the Kratoville appointment?
It doesn't bother you why Wilson is being appoined? So you have a blind eye as to what is really going on, or you choose to.
Oh yea your a member of the republican party, sure you are.
You sound alot like some other spin master that we have not heard from yet today. He a loyal member of the Democratic Party too.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Apr 30, 11 5:54 PM
I think Bama-Slama was pretty spot on, you on the other hand spend so much time concerned about what Turkeybridge is doing, you would think the stalking laws would apply. YOU are what is wrong with the republican party. YOU are a hypocrit who make statements of rumor as fact. YOU need to get away from the bar stool at majic's. Do not for a second think we are fooled by your nonsense. Your a disgrace to the republican party, and you need medical assistance with you anger issues. You have my pity, ...more
By Bayman3142 (190), Southampton on Apr 30, 11 7:58 PM
Yippee ki-yay Run Linda Run...From Sea to the Bay...
Yippee ki-yay Run Linda Run...From Sea to the Bay...
Yippee ki-yay Run Linda Run...From Sea to the Bay...
By V.Tomanoku (675), southampton on Apr 30, 11 12:25 PM
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This was "news" a week ago. Today, it's simply confirmation of the facts. We know why ATH & ATH2 voted for Wilson. But why was Malone ordered to do so? Evidently his political future will not be tracking though the Town of Southampton.
By highhatsize (3784), East Quogue on Apr 30, 11 3:15 PM
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HEY REG REP why are you so interested in everbodies sex life? And about their pets and friendships in our small town. Do yourself a favor worry about your own life as you try to recover and why your at it by a new pack of D cells and try to put a smile on that bitter beer mug of yours. See you at magics cheerleader.
By carson (79), southampton on Apr 30, 11 5:35 PM
its obvious people weren't lining up backing the capt. otherwise he would have been elected.
By WESTEND (15), quogue on Apr 30, 11 8:29 PM

Westend, if you're basing that statement on this article's posts, keep in mind that many of the posts here are from the hilarious and obvious PBA bloggers, especially Pat Aube's. They are so predictable.

Everything about the out of control PBA compensation system is just peachy fine and should be increased.
By Obbservant (443), southampton on May 3, 11 11:45 AM
westend, have you been reeading this blog...the majority of the people have lined up behind Tony Tenaglia, however Ed Walsh spoke and Malone stepped in line to support Anna and the PBA. You may find it comforting hiding under Anna's skirt right now Jim but in the end you will have to answer to the voters and it won't be pretty.
By silverbeaver666 (8), westhampton on Apr 30, 11 9:11 PM
Tony Tenaglia has been treated badly by these officials of the Town of Southampton. Let's hope voters take their discontent to the polls. They have by-passed a true professional, a real "stand up" guy who is beyond reproach ethical, intelligent and a credit to the men and women of law enforcement. His years of dedication to the people of Southampton town earned him the esteem and appreciation of the taxpayers. The elected officials discredit themselves by this action.
By Oshaunnessey (11), Westhampton on Apr 30, 11 9:15 PM
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Oshaunessesy have another cocktail you have no idea what talking about. Don't pretend you know the man. How come the law enforcement community did not come out for the man. Not even just one. Not one. And once again check the archives. Not even close to a perfect past. Not close. God bless, good night, and get a hobby.
By carson (79), southampton on Apr 30, 11 9:58 PM
The Praetorian Guard has spoken and has selected the new Emperor.

12 hour tours, here we come
By North of Highway (280), Westhampton Beach on Apr 30, 11 9:32 PM
Carson, Its one thing to have an opinion but you do it with poor taste and no class. You sound like like a STPO or Wilsons wife, I hope you represent the town better on the streets than you do on this comment board. And you have made a more than a few comments on this topic so dont tell others to get a hobby when you yourself can use one.
By GoldenBoy (333), EastEnd on Apr 30, 11 10:16 PM
remember the Public Safety Commissioner position that voters approved several years ago but was never filled?? I wonder if there are plans to fill that spot- I think Tenaglia woild be the perfect choice.
By CaptainSig (690), Dutch Harbor on May 1, 11 6:46 AM
Long time reader, First time poster here, So I hope I can add a little to what is becoming a "heated" discussion on essentially dribble of a topic. Town board interviews 5 guys, picks 1. End of story. We elected them to do the best job they can, and I feel that they have. Look at both PD's, they both had/have problems, albeit Southampton Town the greater of the problems. Times are changing, and The board feels Wilson will better lead the department. The one thing about this blog, you got some real ...more
By Jimmy MacDoogan (43), Flanders on May 1, 11 7:21 AM
Well, if Jimmy MacDoogan and the rest of the SH Police Officers on this blog agree and feel that the town board have done their job then it must be so.
All because I posted 99% (1 post not sure of) facts and you look at it as discrediting ATH, your upset. The post of Jim Malone is 100% factual he is a liar and so full of himself. This is upsetting to me and should also be to every other tax payer with defending her. How much or what is it that you stand to gain from the gang of 3 (not sure on ...more
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 1, 11 10:22 AM
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This is a political deal. Period. This is all about the Democrat candidates getting the Conservative lines in the upcoming election in exchange for Wilson the PBA and Conservatives choice. Malone -- being a Conservative -- is part of this political "coalition" coming together to screw Tenaglia -- who is a hard ass and someone who will hold the members of the PBA accountable in their jobs (Lord forbid !). Graboski is right that this a back room deal involving ATH, Fleming Malone, the Conservative ...more
By mrmako61 (148), southampton on May 1, 11 11:55 AM
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Of course it was a political deal.
When the vote takes place tomorrow night at 6pm we will find out if the entire town board votes yes or just the gang of 3.

Should the conservative line go to Anna and Bridget, the republican candidates can always primary them.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 1, 11 8:06 PM
Fact of the matter is no one sat in on the interview process, no one knows what the town board was thinking. Tony has had a great career but just because he is Capt does not make him a Chief. The town board chose who they feel is the best candidate and while others on this board are giving opinions, i will also, I believe they have chosen the best candidate for that job out of who was interviewed.
By mrobin (119), North Sea on May 1, 11 1:35 PM
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Wilson didn't want this job any more than Honest Jim Malone wanted to give it to him. They are both after higher and more lucrative political offices. Wilson needed something more in his resume than Chief of a little village so he took a pay cut to become Chief of a (bigger) Town. Malone was probably going nowhere in Town politics after his vote for Kratoville so he had nothing to lose by voting for another designee of higher political powers. Perhaps Malone will be the next Commissioner of ...more
By highhatsize (3784), East Quogue on May 1, 11 4:10 PM
This decision was based simply on advancing political careers. Simple, cut and dry, cant get any clearer, no argument. I just wish they would admit it. Its funny how
By GoldenBoy (333), EastEnd on May 1, 11 8:49 PM
Whatever happened to the requirements for a Police Commissioner pursuant to Town Code Section 19-4. Since the legality of the implementation of Chapter 19 of the Town Code (creating the position of the Police Commissioner rather than a Board of Commissioners) was upheld by the Appellate Division, Second Department back in 2008, the position has evidently been unfunded and has remained vacant. There must ...more be some plausible explanation since the language of a Town Proposition in 2007 (assuming ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on May 2, 11 12:07 AM
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N Tiger: Southampton, a relatively small town, obviously never needed a Police Commissioner, which is why when the fiscal deficits mounted, that job was the first to be defunded.

If you talk to Town Hall insiders, you would know that the Commissioner's position over the Police Chief, was strictly a Skip Heaney creation because he despised Chief Overton and wanted to put his man over him to neuter the Chief!

Heaney never cared about the extra $200K + the redundant Commissioner ...more
By Obbservant (443), southampton on May 3, 11 11:28 AM
A plausible reason for the creation of the position, but having created a position that eliminated the Police Commission under the NYS Town Law Section 150 and replacing it with a Commissioner that the Code states "shall" not "may" be appointed, an attempt to eliminate the position thus created by not funded doesn't strike me as "kosher". We all need to be concerned about taking shortcuts (didn't we learn that lesson with the Supervisor's first pick for Town Attorney). I have no dispute with your ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on May 3, 11 5:26 PM
It is now time for the Town hire another 75+ officers so we can have the police coverage needed for our town.

My tax cost for Police is $400, I would be glad to pay double that for the better of Southampton!!

My support is behind progress, and Chief Willson is progress!!
By BigOne (22), Hampton Bays on May 2, 11 12:41 AM
NTiger the proposition failed to pass in the 2007 election. I know you are a lawyer, can I ask how does that effect the Code? Does the town board have to repeal the law even though the proposition failed.
Are you tring to make a point that the town board cannot act as a board of commissioners because of the existing law?
Thanks

May 2, 11 8:42 AM appended by reg rep
In response to Frank Wheeler question above. I tried to answer you and provide the name of the web site I read that statement that Bridget made, but as you can see the press deleted it. I guess you can't mention other articles. And no I did not make it up she did make a statement about wilson being born in sh hosp.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 2, 11 8:42 AM
The proposition in 2007 stated in full "SHALL THE POLICE COMMISSIONER OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHAMPTON, WHO IS, PURSUANT TO THE TOWN CODE, RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SUPERVISION OF ALL POLICE PERSONNEL, BE THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY FOR THE DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING THE RIGHT TO MAKE EMPLOYMENT DECISIONS CONCERNING POLICE PERSONNEL?" A reading of Chapter 19 of the Town Code the legality of which was confirmed by the Appellate Division of the Second Department in a decision ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on May 2, 11 10:59 AM
Thank you Nancy for standing up for what is right.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on May 2, 11 1:54 PM
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Ditto -- a real SNAFU decision-making process if ever there was one.

Chief Wilson may arguably be the best of the candidates interviewed, but the net to search for candidates was not cast widely enough IMO.

Welcome to our own "locals only" Peyton Place!
By PBR (4883), Southampton on May 2, 11 2:26 PM
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Mangling some references there, PBR!

I recollect that the "SN" part of SNAFU is "situation normal," and I don't think I've seen anything in the past quite like the Kratoville and Wilson appointments, so this really can't be termed "normal" -- at least, I certainly hope not!

And "Peyton Place?" Please! A dated reference at best, and it was pretty racy reading when I was a kid, but there's no sexual dynamic to any of this -- is there? I certainly hope not!


By Frank Wheeler (1805), Northampton on May 2, 11 3:23 PM
I hope that it was a simple "who's in whose bed?" reference myself.
By Mr. Z (10697), North Sea on May 2, 11 3:36 PM
We can all grumble and complain about what has transpired. We swear we will vote the bums out. Unfortunately, they may well leave or be voted out, but we the taxpayers and voters will get stiffed with the bill for their actions for a long time to come.

Those that argue that this is comparable to the Kratoville appointment are wrong, and we know that two wrongs do not make it right. However inelegant that selection process, the consequences of that selection are not as weighty as the outcome ...more
By V.Tomanoku (675), southampton on May 2, 11 2:04 PM
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We need a new supervisor; Anna is out of touch with the Town’s vision.
By Woohampton (35), Westhampton Beach on May 2, 11 2:08 PM
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We need a whole new Board. These members do no work together in any capacity--two very distinct sides never agreeing on anything and always looking for any excuse to publicly criticize the other side. So much negative time and energy is spent in this way rather than serving and helping the public.
By Mrs.Sea (267), Sag Harbor on May 2, 11 2:54 PM
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Nancy Gabrowski voting no is no surprise. The only real surprise is that she is saying or doing anything at all as just another puppet for the republican party. Playing it tough because she is leaving. If she had to run again she would be saying and doing nothing like she has always done. Good bye and good riddens dusty.
By carson (79), southampton on May 2, 11 3:50 PM
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I just dont understand why all the anxt,,,,,,,,,,,,,the Town Board is working for the good of the people ,,,,,,,,,,,they take an oath to do that,,,,,isnt that what Nancy Jim and Chris did when they appointed Kravittsville,,,always for the public good
By Etians rd (490), Southampton on May 2, 11 4:56 PM

The Shinnecock Canal Bridge is for sale. Really, really cheap and a great deal.
By Common Sense (56), Southampton on May 5, 11 10:50 AM
What did Nancy Graboski feel in her "heart of hearts" when she stared stone faced to the public and then voted to appoint Kratoville to the 150K position paid for by the taxpayers of the town?
By SHNative (554), Southampton on May 2, 11 5:22 PM
arent all hirings and appointments by town councils political deals? Wouldn't the WIlson supporters be screaming the same screams if their guy lost? I really dont know the difference between these two candidates but someone should explain why Tenaglia was so much more qualified than Wilson... rather than complain "it's politics".
By littleplains (305), olde england on May 2, 11 6:21 PM
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does this appointment need an unanimous vote or a majority ? in other words does graboski voting no mean anything?
By CaptainSig (690), Dutch Harbor on May 2, 11 7:19 PM
Think I hit the wrong button before. Scusa.

Wilson has run a Village PD of two dozen personnel. Over the past several years on Wilson's watch, there have been numerous accounts of improprieties within the Department, and at least four resignations in the middle of, or one step ahead of, internal investigations.

Tenaglia has by all accounts been actually running the much larger Town PD for the past four years. He knows the personnel, he knows the job, and he knows the Town.

Three ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1805), Northampton on May 2, 11 7:22 PM
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bloomberg hired ms. black and fired her in a month,guiliani and bush almost named bernard kerik the head of homeland security he in jail for corruption,this board names wilson who didnt know about the porn going on,this board will be embarassed for not giving the people what they want .mr.tenaglia is the best qualified for the job according to the majority of people you talk to.why then this choice.i dont know mr tenaglia all i know al lot of people slept good at night when he was at the helm.he ...more
By earl of olay (13), hampton bays on May 2, 11 8:04 PM
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Town Police needed a new direction, out with the old, in with the new. I hope the Captian and most of the Lt's retire! Wilson will build a much better command staff!
Wilson has alot of support, more then the other's. The very few that comment here are far from the majority, seems Wilson had that!
By BigOne (22), Hampton Bays on May 2, 11 8:55 PM
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maybe you will find many answers why Tenaglia wasn't hired from dedicated southampton police officers. I like the man but i dont think it was politics. It was the best man for the job -black and white
By tom mac (3), Sag Harbor on May 2, 11 10:59 PM
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Et tu? Nuzzi..
By V.Tomanoku (675), southampton on May 3, 11 8:21 AM
it will be a much needed change..I have alot of friends working in that pd. I believe they called it a sigh of relief, the dept needed a morale boost, and if they promoted from within everything would have stayed status quo. I think the PD will now be a job sought by many new hires. Obviously Mr Wilson advised the board of his "future plans" and the way he would like to see the department move into the future, and it was liked by 4 of the 5 on the board.
9-11-01 is said to have happened because ...more
By BCHBUM11968 (81), SOUTHAMPTON on May 3, 11 9:21 AM
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sorry, slip of the key ..2nd largest Police agency in Suffolk County
By BCHBUM11968 (81), SOUTHAMPTON on May 3, 11 9:25 AM
First it was a very bad idea to compare what happened on 9/11 with your version of what is going on in the SHPD.

The way some people feel about the appointment of Chief Wilson has nothing to do with Wilson personally, I am sure he is a fine member of our community. The disagreement as to do with an appointment being made for political reasons, THAT’S THE ISSUE. The local PBA should not endorse anyone, nor should the Suffolk County Conservative Leader, nor should the Suffolk Sheriff ...more
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 3, 11 11:36 AM
No one should be fooled. This appointment was about politics....PERIOD. This was a deal to give ATH and one Democratic town board candidate a Conservative cross endorsement. At a great $ cost to the town to convert Wilson's pension. What was Nuzzi thinking about? Graboski should run for Supervisor against ATH because - she would win on integrity alone.
By mrmako61 (148), southampton on May 3, 11 8:34 PM
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have to agree with reg rep, this is about the minority conservative party hi jacking the republican party, what a disgrace. Marietta Seaman was right and left Malone hiding under Anna's skirt and exposed Anna as pompous and clueless as she was the day Fred gave her the first talking points two and a half years ago. Every time Anna gets into trouble she fills the room with the PBA members, is there anyone that thinks she represents anyone but the PBA? Not one civilian spoke in favor of the new ...more
By jimmyk24 (13), east quogue on May 3, 11 9:16 PM
jimmyk you are correct, not only was the room filled with PBA members but some stood right behind her. I just know she (Anna) arranged this knowing that members of the public (who were very upset) would be addressing their comments to her. She wanted the speakers to feel intimidated.
Anna has met her match with Marietta Seaman, Marietta has bigger one's than she has. Run Marietta show this witch who's town board room that is and put some class in the Supervisor seat.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 3, 11 9:51 PM
i believe there are about 94 police officers in the town of southampton - I would venture to say that close to 50 of them were there last night in support of Chief Wilson - their message was clear - they are ready for change - their time has come to have the leader they deserve! someone with energy and vision to make a good police department even better- political reasons or not however Chief Wilson ended up there I am so happy for Police Department - good luck guys - you deserve it!
By arniford (1), Southampton on May 3, 11 11:06 PM
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The uniforms were at the meeting to support the new incoming chief and you had representatives from all over the island. While I respect the people that got up and spoke on behalf of the Capt I can't help but ask where was the law enforcement support for him? I haven't once heard chief overton support the Capt for the spot nor any other person. I think that speaks loud and clear! I've also searched this site and the "others" and can't find a PBa endorsement anywhere. Was that Nancy just stirring ...more
By mrobin (119), North Sea on May 4, 11 7:25 AM
Capt. Tenaglia did not ask for his supports to be present because he has "class". The meeting was to appoint Wilson not to defend Tenaglia. If the town bord was to open a public forum to discuss the issue at hand I am sure that the supporters of Tenaglia would be out in full force. And for your information Cheif Overton did reccomend Capt. Tenaglia to the town board. Unfortunately the town board, who might I add, has less combined experience running the town then Tenaglia has had in runnning the ...more
By rose23 (1), hampton bays on May 4, 11 1:52 PM
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Captain Tenaglia had no support there, because he had none from law enforcement. And where was Chief Overton if he truly was pulling for the man. If there was a public forum announced and Captain Tenaglia was to have his supporters there, you would here a pin drop, or worse yet Marietta Seaman's nasty mouth barking out miss-information about the man again. Who wrote that for that mummified women anyway. She seemed awful emotional. Is there more there to that. Anyway, by now she is back on the ...more
By carson (79), southampton on May 4, 11 6:59 PM
I agree with carson on the whole seaman thing, I just dont have the same colorful grasp of the english language she has. I do find it interesting how reg rep can call for seaman to run against anna for supervisor when it was not too long ago re rep stated:

"It was Marietta Seaman and some of her republican cronies that caused this debacle. Help from Seaman is like the kiss of death, no one has any respect for the former town clerk. She was elected and then left for an up island job paying ...more
By Jimmy MacDoogan (43), Flanders on May 4, 11 7:39 PM
The message will be clear this November the voters in the Town of Southampton are ready for a change too.
Re-read your comment, you are saying it's ok to have elected officials who are corrupt for the good of the police department. Now I've heard everything. l
May 4, 11 9:02 AM appended by reg rep
mrobin a letter was sent from the Suffolk County Sheriff to the Town Board on April 6 in support of Wilson it was mentioned in this paper and the pba endorsement was mentioned in several local papers. Are you kidding or what! Both mrobin & arniford said "political reasons or not change is what they need. Its so sad that you could care less if some members of the town board may be corrupt.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 4, 11 9:02 AM
I've re read and I clearly stated if that's what YOU think. By no means do I think corruption is ok nor do I think corruption took place but that is your thought, which you are entitled to. The town board interviewed 5 candidates and chose the best that they felt would lead the dept the best.
By mrobin (119), North Sea on May 4, 11 9:21 AM
Of-duty, uniformed police officers should NEVER be permitted at meetings wherein their civilian superiors are deciding matters in which they have a vested interest.

This is the second time that the blueshirts of Southampton have demonstrated their arrogance and ignorance. They would have been right at home in Germany in 1933.

We are left with a Town run by gormless, spineless groundlings who have handed political power to the schutzpolizei.

The STPD PBA ought to form ...more
By highhatsize (3784), East Quogue on May 4, 11 9:55 AM
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I can agree with many aspects of your statement, but comparing the our police to the SS is in very bad taste. This is local politics run by schmucks and not the horror of the nazi's and the holocaust.
By V.Tomanoku (675), southampton on May 4, 11 11:55 AM
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"...uniformed police officers should NEVER be permitted at meetings..."

Please let us know which other constitutionally guaranteed rights the cops should be excluded from.
By VOS (1139), WHB on May 4, 11 8:20 PM
I agree that it is inappropriate for off duty police to appear at a public meeting in their uniforms. It was intimidating. It looked like a police state. They had every right to be there, but they should have been there in their civilian clothes like every other citizen
By goldenrod (505), southampton on May 4, 11 11:32 AM
I believe the sole purpose of the meeting was to swear in the new police chief, therefore having members of his former and future departments in uniform is entirely appropriate, along with the uniformed members on Southold, New York State, East Hampton. What was inappropriate was the actions of the seamans, both marietta and her husband whose name escapes me. The decision was made and the time for public comments past at the last town board neeting. Mr and Mrs seaman were a beligerant embarassment ...more
By Bama-Slama (41), Hampton bays on May 4, 11 4:49 PM
to V. Tomanoku:

Specifically, I was referring to the mobbing of the Reichstag parliamentary assembly in 1933 by the stormtroopers (brownshirts) who intimidated the majority parties into giving dictatorial powers to Adolf Hitler. At this point, the horrors of the Holocaust had not begun and the SS was insignificant.

MOST jurisdictions prohibit the police from wearing their uniforms off-duty and in public meetings as a result of what the stormtroopers accomplished in 1933 and ...more
By highhatsize (3784), East Quogue on May 4, 11 12:25 PM
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Ridiculous comparison no matter how you feel about Wilson's appointment.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on May 4, 11 3:16 PM
Tell us which jurisdiction you are referring to that would not allow uniforms to be worn at the official swearing in of a new leader of that department, or do not comment on something that is undoubtedly way beyond your limited comprehension. Your statements comparing local law enforcement to the brownshirts of 1933 is appalling, and tracing thru your past comments par for the course with you. You seem to have a problem with authority, or our local authority, and speak as if an authority on all ...more
By Bama-Slama (41), Hampton bays on May 4, 11 5:02 PM
fyi officers of many police departments are prohibited from wearing any part of an official uniform while off duty unless prior approval from the dept is obtained. a common example of this would be to attend a police funeral
By CaptainSig (690), Dutch Harbor on May 4, 11 5:20 PM
Hey HighHatsize, maybe you should stick your head in the oven for a while, turn up the gas and give us all a break with your outragous blogs of nonsense. Do you actually have a job, because it seems your on this thing all day. And if you do have a job, then maybe you should get a life. You and REGREP, Marietta, should get together for the early bird in Boca and then maybe a night cap in Doug Pennies room at the home.
By carson (79), southampton on May 4, 11 7:12 PM
Highhat you are a disgusting miserable individual. Time to find something else to do, because your postings are getting more and more ignorant. Comparing a PD to the nazi party is as offensive as it gets. I'm sure you felt you were being witty and impressive, you were actually showing yourself to be small and insignificant. Big words equates a bigger jackass when it comes to you. If you need help finding an oven it seems alot of people will help you find one.
By Jimmy MacDoogan (43), Flanders on May 4, 11 7:53 PM
So many police officers on this blog its like happy hour at Tom McBrien’s, in Hampton Bays hey Carson?
To all the self-righteous phonies (Bama-Slama) that are so full of it. Highhatsize may have used the wrong comparison but he was making a point that most of you choose to ignore because you are so bent on winning your point. Some people feel that some members of our town board made an appointment for political reasons. Some feel as though we are living under a dictatorship and the pba ...more
May 5, 11 8:20 PM appended by reg rep
One person above tried to compare what happened on September 11(due to lack of information) with what is wrong with the SH police department. Not one of you phony hypocrites said one word about that. We have a double standard here don’t we?
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 4, 11 8:20 PM
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I'm sure as learned and opinionated a post as HHS is aware, and cheerfully flouts, "Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies." (I.e., he lost any standing in this "debate" as soon as he cited "Nazis" or "Hitler.")

But I must say that Madame Supe's positioning of the uniformed "troops," gives one pause.
By Frank Wheeler (1805), Northampton on May 4, 11 8:33 PM
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Boy, you REALLY need to get some meds. A comparison of the unwillingness of the SHTPD to play nice with outside agencies and 9/11, is NOTHING like a comparison of the people who work for the SHTPD and the brownshirts of nazi germany 1933. You again have shown yourself to be a completely ignorant poster, but on the brightside, you have highhatside as your compatriot. Thank you marietta, for truly showing us how intelligent you are.
By Jimmy MacDoogan (43), Flanders on May 5, 11 10:44 PM
Those who do not learn History...
May 10, 11 5:58 AM appended by Mr. Z
"Quis custodiet, ipsos custodes." ~ Juvenal
By Mr. Z (10697), North Sea on May 6, 11 5:58 AM
I appreciate your thorough knowledge of history and what you are saying. I too am appalled with what has transpired. Still, most of us lack your historical knowledge and are more simple minded and your comparison of our police department to the SS or storm troopers are unwarranted. I am well aware of the terror of dictatorships and their puppets from a family and personal perspective. I don’t think we are quite there.

While I agree that the line of cops behind the town board was ...more
By V.Tomanoku (675), southampton on May 4, 11 3:05 PM
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This comment is directed to all of you whom are slinging mud and stating falacies...If you are man or woman enough to make the comment and post it then sign your real name to it . Don't hide behind your screen name...if you feel its true then man up and stand beside your convivtions. You will notice that those who speak the truth use their real screen names.
By angela tenaglia (1), hampton bays on May 4, 11 3:13 PM
Well said, Angela!
By Maxa Luppi (7), Southampton on May 5, 11 11:29 AM
I support Captain Tenaglia and his family. Not only has he been a dedicated leader of the police force, he has given up so many special occasions, events, family commitments etc to provide service to this community and that isnt good enough for him to receive a well deserved promotion? Actions speak louder than words people!!!! You really dropped the ball on this one!!!
By Lisa Marte (2), hampton Bays on May 4, 11 8:10 PM
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Alright already great family guy, we get it ! Now wipe the tears and go. You a hansome lady.
By carson (79), southampton on May 5, 11 11:48 AM
I have spoken to many people specially in the police department...unanimously
they said ...they could not have pick a better person for the job....and that they went out in force Village and town supporting Wilson...the first ones sorry to see him go...the second ones happy to have him as their new boss.....
By Bel (86), southampton on May 4, 11 8:50 PM

These people in the STPD Police Dept you're referring to have an ax to grind and are hardly objective because "these people" are surely the PBA rank and file who have detested their superior officers since they rightly bolted from the PBA to form their own organization. Superior officers ARE MANAGEMENT!
By Obbservant (443), southampton on May 4, 11 9:26 PM
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of course their happy with him, who wouldnt want a boss that they can contol through their union
By ricky0311 (1), southampton on May 4, 11 9:32 PM
Some words to discribe some members of our town board:
Currupt, dishonest, untrustworthy. It's not over, November will be here before we know it.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 5, 11 10:58 AM
Congratulations and good luck to Chief Wilson.
By Turkey Bridge (1885), Quiogue on May 5, 11 10:21 AM
That's right -- ATH voted for it, so it's good enough for TB!
By Frank Wheeler (1805), Northampton on May 5, 11 11:26 AM
Limited as I am to two comments a day, I'll try to wrap up all my responses in one:

to Frank Wheeler:

No, I had never heard of Godwin's Law. It's a cute idea. Of course, if you subscribe to it, you defer your rationality to Godwin's (whoever he is.) You also eliminate the paramount example of so many kinds of despicable behavior from any dialogue.

to Jimmy McDoogan, carson, :

Your inane rants are noted.

to Bama-Slama:

To answer your loaded ...more
By highhatsize (3784), East Quogue on May 5, 11 11:27 AM
You are quickly losing credibility and respect, Hat. The Belch case refers to an officer, ON DUTY, in uniform, making statements in a TELEVISION INTERVIEW regarding a political election where it was determined there was an appearance of his acting in an official capacity. Belch does NOT equate to off-duty officers expressing their opinions while wearing the uniform at a public meeting.

If you are simply going to cite cases giving the impression they back up your viewpoint and ridiculous ...more
By VOS (1139), WHB on May 5, 11 12:16 PM
I've been reading some of these comments over the past couple of days and following the stories on here. Three members of the Town Board must be voted out of office. What is going on with our town, we cannot have this kind of dishonesty. The police were hired to do a job, not run town government.
Well said highhatsize don't take any nonsense from these clowns.
By ms.11968 (2), southampton on May 5, 11 11:46 AM
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By carson (79), southampton on May 5, 11 11:51 AM
In watching the podcast it seems there were Sgt's there also in uniform. That leads me to believe that maybe its not just the PBA that thinks change is needed or it wasnt just a PBA conspiracy. An now we find out theres also an ethics complaint pending?
By mrobin (119), North Sea on May 5, 11 12:10 PM
If there is a true desire to insure that elected officials are responsive to the needs of the general public as opposed to the special interests (whoever they may be) then amend the Town Code to provide for "Recall" and "Referendum". Who knows elected officials might even decide to respond to questions asked during the public portion of Town Board meetings if their job security was on the line. And if there is a current rule against such communications then a majority of Town Board members (can ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on May 5, 11 3:21 PM
mrobin seems your right on the money and apparantely Im hearing through friends at Town Hall at the water cooler that there are several complaints stemming not just from PO's but from Supervisors as well, and some how the US Open is involved. I guess we'll wait and see how this unfolds
By mollymguire (4), RIVERSIDE on May 5, 11 5:41 PM
Really mollymguire? What a scoup, now it's not just one PO complaint but PO's and Supervisors as well. Please, do tell what else you heard from friends standing around the water cooler.
Was this complaint from the US Open in 1995 or 2004? That was a long time ago to be filing a complaint now, don't you think? Did you hear the rumor correctly?
By ms.11968 (2), southampton on May 5, 11 6:59 PM
The website of the weekly publication from the village near Long Wharf (overlooking Shelter Island to the north) has a really cute photo of the new couple in a warm and fuzzy pose. Matching outfits? Holding hands?

[PS -- it is against the rules of this site to post URL's which would make "the news" more available to all IMO.]
By PBR (4883), Southampton on May 5, 11 5:55 PM
Up above here, I posted a simple line, "Congratulations and good luck to Chief Wilson," and someone took a shot at that. Can you believe it? Not exactly noble in defeat, eh?

Anyway, I forgot some other congratulations that are due. Congratulations to the Town Board for conducting an open interview process for a change, making a careful choice, and sticking with that choice despite intense pressure, innuendo and false accusations. Congratulations to Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst for maintaining ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1885), Quiogue on May 5, 11 6:15 PM
which one of them wrote that speech for you?
By CaptainSig (690), Dutch Harbor on May 5, 11 9:23 PM
Thank you Turkey Bridge aka George Lynch loyal member of the Democratic Party and loyal supporter of Anna Throne Holst. I'm sure Chris Nuzzi will now be able to sleep now that you have given your approval. What about Malone no special thanks to him or was he too much of an embarrassment hiding under Anna’s skirt during (as you say) the provocations.
BTW were the provocations at all like when you pounded on the podium during the public portion of a town board meeting a few months ago, ...more
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 5, 11 6:38 PM
Het, reg rep, aka "crazy person"' since you see fit to call out others, how about revealing your identity? Yeah, didn't think so
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on May 5, 11 11:29 PM
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Hihatsize your absolutely right it was political on the republican side, the only reason Nuzzi and Grabowski got involved to support one of there commitee man a "loyal soldier" since he was 17 years old, Sgt Jimmy Kiernan who would personally benefit if Tenaglia was promoted and Jimmy ultimately would be the next LT and then chief of police. And he would have been the first person to be hired from outside the township because he never was a resident anyway just a carpetbagger to steal a job from ...more
By mollymguire (4), RIVERSIDE on May 5, 11 7:17 PM
The town should consider itself lucky to have jimmy kiernan serving the pd at any position. One of the few good ones left. And as far as the pba, that union is more like a mafia than anything. I need my road paved, guess I have to go to the pba prez and kiss his rings. So now ATH has the pba and csea union prez in her back pocket. Who by the way just landed a nice cushy job in the public safety dept. On "light duty". Nice, 160k worth of salary to run a dept. with a budget of 45k. What else ...more
By GoldenBoy (333), EastEnd on May 6, 11 10:01 AM
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GOLDENBOY, one of the few good ones left. I understand that SGT Kiernan has only been a police officer for about ten years. He seems to be awful new to have given himself such high expectations. Pretty delusional if you ask me. You republicans are one arrogant bunch. Maybe he should actually figure that job out before crowning himself and the republicans.
By mollymguire (4), RIVERSIDE on May 6, 11 1:48 PM
HaHaHaHaHaHa peoplefirst

Golden Boy you are correct. Pete Collins President of the CSEA was promised that job for endorsing Ms. ATH; I just never thought it would be 160k. Pete kept his mouth shut during the pay increase neg. for the town employees in 2010, he sold them out. He did not embarrass Anna during the negotiation by speaking at the town board meeting. If you remember the year before when Ms. Anna was running for Supervisor, Pete Collins attended a town board meeting complaining ...more
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 6, 11 10:40 AM
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I agree with peoplefirst, if you are going to call out others, reveal their identity when they are posting anonymously, then have the courage to do the same yourself.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on May 6, 11 10:48 AM
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to VOS:

I am using up one of my two daily posts to correct your misinterpretation of the citations that I posted to show that cops have NO constitutional right to engage in political activity while in uniform. Please pay close attention:

Belch v. Jefferson Co., 108 F.Supp.2d 143 = cops in uniform and on duty don't have a Constitutional right to engage in political activity even a little teeny-weeny bit and even if they didn't start it. A cop's assertion otherwise is SUMMARILY ...more
By highhatsize (3784), East Quogue on May 6, 11 10:56 AM
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HHS - While Belch may not be the best case to cite (the court expressly limited it to its facts), other cases (for ex., see Thomas v. Whalen, 51 F.3d 1285, and cases it cites) make clear that rules/regs prohibiting an officer commenting on matters of public concern while in uniform pass constitutional muster.
However, the question here seems to be: Do the Village/Town/State PDs have rules/regs prohibiting the officers' conduct? Without a rule/reg, there doesn't appear to be a common law, ...more
By CoweeDewey (110), East Quogue on May 6, 11 4:22 PM
progressnow
Your defense of Turkey Bridge is very admirable but not necessary. The Turkey told me a few posts ago that everyone knew he was George, it was nothing new to anyone, except for me. So, it’s ok you can relax, he’s fine with it. Happy Mothers Day!
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 6, 11 11:42 AM
Reg rep, I don't know who George is and I don't care. If someone posts here using an alias, as you do, then address them by their alias. Will you wish me happy mother's day as well?
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on May 6, 11 12:12 PM
HIGHHATSIZE,REGREP, you two have to be the same person, I can't imagine two people as stupid as you two. And to praise NANCY GABROWSKI, your definitely nuts, rumor has it she has some problems of her own concerning some ethics violations and ignoring her oath of office. Between her and NUZZI'S Brookhaven Town problems looks like the cream didn't rise to the top, looks like the dirt did. Things are looking up you republicans.
By mollymguire (4), RIVERSIDE on May 6, 11 1:59 PM
Congrats to Chief Wilson. Now lets move on and stop blaming those really not behind the hiring. The best for the job was chosen for the local citizens and this town.
By UNITED states CITIZEN (207), SOUTHAMPTON on May 6, 11 3:14 PM
As an outsider, but concerned citizen, my wish was only that the best man (or looking to the future -- woman) be chosen to lead the Town's police department. What I learn about Mr. Tenaglia from a distance, and only through press reports, is a man looking inward, licking wounds, unable to hide his disappointment. What I see from the press reports is a man unable to set aside hurt for the benefit of a larger good -- the morale and professionalism of the police department. Sometimes, no matter was ...more
By number19 (108), Westhampton on May 6, 11 3:54 PM
number19 claims to be an outsider and just a concerned citizen. Would an outsider participate in a rally for Tim Bishop handing out press kits in favor of healthcare reform? This rally took place in August of 2009 in front of Bishop’s office on Hampton Road, Anna Throne-Holst was present as well. Isn’t that so number 19? This guy is entrenched with the Democratic Party and a big supporter of Anna Throne-Holst and Bridget. What we have here is just another phony player, just like the ...more
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 7, 11 2:13 AM
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Ok number 19, nice try with that last comment but everyone who knows Mr. Tenaglia knows he is not licking wounds but a standup guy who always did his job efficiently and effectively. We all also know that Jim Malone took his marching orders from Ed Walsh, the county conservative party leader, and incredulously the conservative party will nominate a liberal democrat, anna throne for supervisor for putting her support around the PBA darling, William Wilson. Up Island politicians making decisions ...more
By jimmyk24 (13), east quogue on May 6, 11 8:53 PM
Marietta "OTB" Seaman is outraged? Really? That's outrageous! This is the person who engineered the rescue of Russell Kratoville from the sinking ship of OTB by a hiring process that had a lot wrong with it, including no consideration of anyone for the job but Prince Russell. At least Chief Wilson came out of a process that looked at five different candidates. If you want to see someone who gives new meaning to the word "spite," take a look at Ms. Seaman on the tape.
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on May 7, 11 8:50 AM
A process were the outcome was predetermined and gave out false hope to long standing candidates. How can you weigh the consequences of hiring a police department chief to Kratoville? In the scheme of things, except for being overpaid, Kratoville is inconsequential.
By V.Tomanoku (675), southampton on May 7, 11 11:04 AM
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You're right, VT, the police chief job is much more important than the Management Services Administrator sinecure that Russell Kratoville occupies. No one would propose axeing the police department, but that's exactly what was in store for Kratoville's job and that whole department before Marietta Seaman discovered her OTB office was in such deep trouble that Russell needed a new place to land.

In the end, I agree with you that Administrator Kratoville's position pales into relative ...more
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on May 7, 11 2:51 PM
I suppose if you repeat the same unsubstantiated rumors, personal attacks and innuendo often enough, you convince at least yourself of its veracity. However useful these techniques might be in propaganda and spin they don't meet the Sgt Friday (late of Dragnet) test which is a simple "Just the facts". The test for both Mr. Kratoville and Chief Wilson is how they perform in their respective positions. Hopefully their performances far surpass the performance of the Supervisor's first choice for ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on May 7, 11 6:36 PM
You say judge them on how "they perform their services for the public, not on who or how they were appointed." So we should just let the pols hire their pals or whoever sucks up to them, not follow any procedure, and then just hope these bozos do a good job? What were you smoking when they held civics class, NTiger?
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on May 7, 11 8:39 PM
I have to agree with you. Had ATH and the board taken some questions they might have been able to allay some of the suspicion around this decision. Instead of stonewalling the public a little back and forth might have illuminated the public about their thinking with respect to the police department and how it should be run and how their choice reflected their philosophy.

There will be no need for expensive campaign advisers and advertisers for ATH' opponents. Just still of her ice cold ...more
By V.Tomanoku (675), southampton on May 7, 11 9:08 PM
What we should do is elect governmental officials (pols or whatever you wish to call them) who have only the best interest of the public in mind, not their own advancement. You can only judge an appointee by the job she or he does, you can judge the electeds who appointed them by the manner in which they chose to select appointees (on the presumption, albeit not always a very accurate one that they are not making the appointment in a manner considered against the law - i.e. you appoint so and so ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on May 7, 11 9:34 PM
You say "Procedure is just another one of those make believe transparency things." Wow! So just don't bother with any rules, right? For all the talk, that's what it comes down to, that's what you're saying. As far as I'm concerned, anyone hired with no rules might be a bozo for all I know. That's part of what the procedure is for, to screen out the bozos.

Screen names, by the way, are part of the culture of this site, as you'll know when you've been around for a little longer than ...more
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on May 8, 11 9:43 AM
Oh yes the procedures that were followed in the Supervisor's selection for her first Town Attorney. You can continue to misread and misrepresent what I have stated as long as you want. If you truly believe that there was any chance that the 3 votes for Chief Wilson were going to go away after screening the Lts., or that interviewing others for the Administrator position would have changed those three votes, then as former Town Supervisor Marty Lang used to say "God bless you".

As for ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on May 8, 11 11:32 AM
If you're saying I've been "spreading unsubstantiated rumors, personal attacks and innuendo," name them. Otherwise, don't say that.
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on May 8, 11 4:40 PM
Ms. Throne-Holst replied during the public portion of Monday town board meeting that "it wasn’t procedure to entertain a back-and-forth during the public comment session".
I came across this doing some research about the public portion of meeting. Go to the public portion of the town board meeting of September 28, 2010 6p.m. The public portion goes on with one person with a back and forth for over 30 minutes. All of the town board members and the town attorney were in a back and forth ...more
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 7, 11 7:48 PM
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You don't know what you're talking about, reg rep. I looked at the September 28 meeting, and that was about a police disciplinary matter, and the board members weren't answering questions from the public, they were asking questions, and they were talking among themselves, and asking the town attorney for advice. It wasn't a deal of any clown being able to stand up and put the board through the third degree. You're just stretching it so you get to trash ATH at the end, because that's what it's ...more
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on May 7, 11 9:05 PM
Clam pie what’s it all about for you?
This was a PUBLIC PORTION of a Town Board Meeting and board membes were in a deep discussion with the speaker. The board members were not silent. All parties were participating giving opinions, a BACK and FORTH exchange was definitely going on with the speaker. So I don't know what you are talkinga about. All Anna had to do was answer the question asked of her at the meeting on Monday and no issue would have been made.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 8, 11 6:59 PM
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I explained the difference already. If you don't get it, or don't want to get it, too bad. As far as ATH not answering the question, that's a bum rap because she did. They all told why they were voting pro or con. They just did that after the public part was over, not in the middle of it. So what's the problem?
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on May 9, 11 9:33 AM
Its you that is not getting it! I think the voters get it and will vote accordingly in November.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on May 9, 11 11:27 AM
to CoweeDewey:

Thanks for the critique.

I don't think that there is any case law on A POLICE OFFICER'S FREEDOM TO WEAR HIS UNIFORM OFF-DUTY per se as a Constitutional right. The cases that I can find all deal with the right of the brass to forbid an officer from engaging in certain activities off-duty and in uniform. Those cases all come down on the side of the brass. I cited Belch v. Jefferson Co., 108 F.Supp.2d 143 for the sake of drama. The court therein summarily dismissed ...more
By highhatsize (3784), East Quogue on May 8, 11 10:51 AM
Sigh...Again, we have corrupt, useless members of the Town Board. Hopefully the voters will voice their discontent with them at the next election. Captain Tenaglia is the perfect man for the job! We'll see how long it takes for puppet Wilson to cut off the strings from Anna Holst's clutch! hehehe
By Jaws (239), East Quogue on May 11, 11 12:52 AM
So, now one year later, the town board wants to oust the chief. Go figure?!?
By Jaws (239), Westhampton on Apr 24, 12 1:00 AM
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