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Jul 22, 2011 4:49 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Town Board Will Hold Hearing Tuesday On New Energy Efficient Building Standards

Jul 22, 2011 4:49 PM

The Southampton Town Board will hold a public hearing at a board meeting on Tuesday evening to consider amending the town code to require new or substantially reconstructed homes to comply to building standards that would make them more energy efficient.

If enacted, the law would require homes up to 3,500 square feet to achieve a Home Energy Rating System (HERS) index number of 70 or lower, instead of a rating of 80, which is what’s currently required in the code. The result of the change would be a 30 percent increase in energy efficiency, according to a copy of the legislation.

Town Board members discussed the legislation at length at a work session on Friday. Some members expressed concerns about costs associated with complying with the new code, particularly during a fragile, recovering economy.

The Town Board will likely adjourn the hearing on Tuesday, Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst said, as it will await more information from the Building and Zoning division on costs to homeowners associated with implementing the building standards.

Also at Friday’s work session, the board discussed the results of a solid waste study that will help the board shape the town’s future policy on solid waste removal through an updated Solid Waste Management Plan.

The report presents four possible directions, including keeping operations the same; abandoning current waste operations and moving towards municipal waste districts with curbside pick-up, keeping the transfer stations open for municipal use only and optimizing current operations.

The board agreed to consider maintaining current operations, while trying to make them more efficient.

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Again the Town Board getting involved in something they know nothing about. Ranks up there with requiring solar heating for pools. Go spend your own money-not ours.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Jul 22, 11 5:15 PM
Energy efficiency standards save money for everyone.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Jul 22, 11 5:34 PM
In this case, 70 HERS is a modest requirement that is feasible with reasonably priced technology. We're talking $10,000 to $15,000 for a 2200 square foot home

The added cost of this level of energy efficiency will be quickly recouped by the homeowner, and the savings will continue to mount over time, so it's a win for everyone.

Mandated efficiencies are only problematic when government entities think they can just wish them into existence, without regard for cost or unintended ...more
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jul 22, 11 9:21 PM
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What about houses larger than 3500 sq ft? Seems to me some of the behemoths that have been built must use up an enormous amount of energy. It's why East Hampton was threatened with brown outs a few years ago and a whole new power cable had to be brought out.
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Jul 22, 11 9:00 PM
Really a whole new power cable. Oh the humanity
By joe hampton (3231), south hampton on Jul 24, 11 4:31 PM
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Some of these "homes", require one, or sometimes even two 75 KVA transformers.

For reference, one ot those transformers can supply an eight unit townhouse.
By Mr. Z (10715), North Sea on Jul 25, 11 9:55 PM
Oh thats great another tool for SH Building inspector Harold Fisher to terrorize the town with, just great
By They call me (2523), southampton on Jul 23, 11 12:56 AM
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Is that a shirt or a table cloth from Pizza Hut ?
By Undocumented Democrat (1811), southampton on Jul 23, 11 10:10 AM
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I think it's a fantastic idea to build houses that will operate more efficiently. I also think it is extremely ridiculous for the town board to mandate such standards. The state and federal governments already regulate building standards; the county regulates sanitary requirements. The town needs to focus on running their operations, not creating more operations to be administered.

No one on the board, to my knowledge, has any expertise in this field and their research time can better ...more
By VOS (1146), WHB on Jul 23, 11 12:14 PM
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Totally agree. But remember this has nothing to do about saving energy. It has EVERYTHING to do about Mike Benincasa (the guy with the incredibly ugly shirt in the picture) and Queen Anna getting more control over your life.

By tuckahoeptomember (9), Southampton on Jul 24, 11 12:31 PM
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Disagree. First, the story doesn't say who introduced the resolution or called for the hearing - I'd like to know. Second, I don't believe the supervisor or anyone else on the board desires to control my life, but I do believe they are all looking to get as many points as possible by pandering to any vocal minority at the expense of the rest of us. Whatever happened with that banned parking in Noyac?
By VOS (1146), WHB on Jul 24, 11 4:40 PM
I wonder how your fellow pto members feel about you using their organization as you screen name, especially considering the content of your posting. Then again, the PTO members at my kid's school were mostly obnoxious as well
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Jul 24, 11 8:22 PM
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Razza, incapable of adding anything intelligent or productive to the conversation, speaks again.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jul 25, 11 10:26 AM
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Ah, realityfirst, your comment to me is so much more "intelligent" and "productive" then mine to your wife, is it? You crack me up, dude, but you're stalking is a little frightening.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Jul 25, 11 1:22 PM
Progressnow shares a computer with me. I forgot to log her out. My apologies, Mary. But my comment to realityfirst stands. The dude is a joke.
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Jul 25, 11 1:24 PM
Sure, let's mandate technologies that most of the middle class can't afford anyway.

That will bring home ownership to those who service Oligarchy.
By Mr. Z (10715), North Sea on Jul 25, 11 9:57 PM
Exposed.... Two left wing hacks really one..... Film at eleven
By joe hampton (3231), south hampton on Jul 26, 11 12:31 AM
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Joe hampton, if you are referring to razza5351 and me, we are two distinct users with similar views who often share a computer. I do not always agree with the way razza5351 expresses himself, but I do mostly agree with his views.

Realityfirst is always complaining that others cannot remain on topic, yet his postings, like the one above, are no different than those of which he complains.

The teapartiers and far right conservatives like yourself seem to find it hard to believe ...more
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Jul 26, 11 2:06 PM
Maybe they should start w/ turning down the AC at Town Hall & other Gov buildings. It's ice cold in all the Town buildings - a total waste of power.

Until they figure out the budget problems, missing funds & shoddy accounting - please stay out of our lives.
By G (324), Southampton on Jul 24, 11 9:02 AM
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Bennicasa is suggesting that only the first tier's (the code is written in 3 tiers, small. large, mcmansion housing) energy efficiency be improved. The other tiers already have high energy efficiency standards in place. The smaller homes, built or substantially renovated by the "little guy" will now need to be more efficient. I see it as protection. Now the builders and renovators must take into account the energy usage that the average Joe will be paying for. The modest increase in cost will ...more
By RegisterdIndependent (6), southampton on Jul 25, 11 9:52 AM
That's really why this is important. As a consumer, it's nearly impossible to know what's behind the walls in new construction, and if it's a spec house, the only people who will know for sure are the builder and the inspector.

Unfortunately, many builders have proven that if they can save $100 in construction costs that will cost the buyer $1,000 a year in additional energy costs, they prefer to add the $100 to their bottom line.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jul 25, 11 10:32 AM
That's good...do more to hurt the local economy.Besides that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play. They don't understand costs asociated with their actions. When Town Board members do it themselves, then they can mandate to other people. This is purely job preservation by government workers. LEAVE US ALONE!
By The Real World (351), southampton on Jul 25, 11 12:29 PM
in related news, the hot air spewing from progressnow's geodesic dome is powering all of hampton jitney.
By local69 (65), southampton on Jul 25, 11 4:40 PM
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