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Aug 24, 2011 2:10 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

UPDATE: Storm Lessens In Intensity; Should Make Landfall At 10 a.m.

The East End Prepares For Hurricane Irene
The East End Prepares For Hurricane Irene
Southampton Town Hurricane Guide 2011 (PDF)
Aug 30, 2011 1:19 PM

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UPDATE:

9:28 a.m., Saturday, August 27

Mayor Mark Epley, in conjunction with the Southampton Fire Department, has declared a state of emergency effective 9 a.m. today. An emergency order also has been issued calling for the mandatory evacuation of all low-lying areas subject to flooding and impacts of storm surge.

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UPDATE:

9:23 a.m., Saturday, August 27

East Hampton Village Mayor Paul F. Rickenbach Jr. declared a state of emergency on Saturday morning. Village officials are advising residents living in low-lying areas to voluntarily evacuate, as Hurricane Irene may cause significant flooding. High winds and rain combined with high tides might cause some streets to become impassable, village officials warn, adding, that there may be power interruptions due to high winds and fallen trees.

All village beaches are closed, and residents are being advised to stay off the roads during the storm. Village officials warned this morning that there are dangerous surf conditions, and that extreme currents and erosion will make beaches unsafe.

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UPDATE:

7:56 a.m., Saturday, August 27

Hurricane Irene continued an angry path north overnight—and residents are urged to finalize emergency plans immediately, as the storm is expected to hit the East End slightly earlier than anticipated.

According to David Stark, a meteorologist at the National Weather Service in Upton, New York, Hurricane Irene is currently a massive Category 1 storm, with maximum sustained winds of 90 mph, slightly less than last night.

The storm is sited 540 miles south/southeast of Montauk Point with storm motion moving north/northeast at 14 miles per hour.

Hurricane Irene is expected to slam onshore and make landfall on the Outer Banks of North Carolina at 9 or 10 a.m,

If the hurricane stays on its projected track, the storm is expected to make landfall somewhere across western Long Island as a Category 1 storm, with maximum sustained winds of between 75 and 80 mph, at approximately 10 a.m. Sunday morning. “That’s a little earlier than originally thought,” Mr. Stark said.

He warned that higher gusts could still hit the East End, even if the storm makes landfall to the west. “It’s a very large storm,” he said. “Gusts could be a little stronger than 75 and 80 mph.”

As Hurricane Irene gets closer to the East End, the storm is expected to pick up speed, Mr. Stark said. By Sunday morning, when the storm is just off the New Jersey coast, Hurricane Irene is expected to have increased movement to 22 mph. It is expected to cross over Long Island mid-Sunday morning, with areas on the east side of the circulation of the storm, including the East End, experiencing intense hurricane-force winds.

Experts anticipate by around 3 p.m. on Sunday the center of the storm will have moved north to central Massachusetts, with gusts weakening as the storm heads out of the area. By 6 p.m., Mr. Stark said the eastern parts of Long Island, including parts of Southampton, Montauk Point, and Orient, could still be seeing tropical storm force winds between 39 and 74 miles per hours, with winds most likely at the lower end of that range.

New updates will be issued by the NWS at 8 and 11 a.m.

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UPDATE:

4:38 a.m., Saturday, August 27

The National Weather Service reports that, as the center of Hurricane Irene closes in on the Outer Banks of North Carolina, it is moving up the East Coast at a slightly quicker pace and could reach Long Island by Sunday morning, with the outer bands of the storm beginning to reach the area by Saturday morning and afternoon.

“Conditions are then likely to rapidly deteriorate in torrential rain and strengthening winds Saturday night,” the NWS bulletin stated. “The worst conditions are likely late Saturday night into Sunday afternoon.” Damaging winds, heavy rains and significant coastal flooding are all expected on the East End.

At 3 a.m. Saturday, the center of the storm was about 100 miles south of Cape Lookout, North Carolina, still more than 600 miles south/southwest of Montauk Point. It remains a Category 1 hurricane, though slightly diminished, with maximum sustained winds of 90 mph. A hurricane warning remains in effect for much of the Northeast coast, including Long Island.

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UPDATE:

10:26 p.m., Friday, August 26

According to Steve Coleman, media representative for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, due to Hurricane Irene, all Port Authority airports—including JFK, LaGuardia, Newark, Liberty, Stewart, and Teterboro—will close to arriving domestic and international flights at noon on Saturday.

The five airports will remain open for departing flights pending further updates. Travelers are advised to check with carriers.

The MTA will begin to shut down all train, bus and subway services throughout the city and on Long Island starting at noon. At the same time, New Jersey Transit will suspend all rail operations, and at 6 p.m. all bus operations will be suspended. Visit the transit agencies’ websites for more up-to-date news on their operations. You can also visit www.panynj.com for updated info and weather for all Port Authority facilities.

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UPDATE:

10:20 p.m., Friday, August 26

East Hampton Village officials met at 4 p.m. this afternoon to review the latest weather information, according to East Hampton Village Police Captain Michael Tracey. They plan to meet early Saturday morning to make a determination as to whether or not an evacuation of low-lying areas in East Hampton Village areas will be announced, he said after the meeting.

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UPDATE:

10:01 p.m., Friday, August 26

According to Jeffrey Tongue, meteorologist for the National Weather Service office in Upton, Hurricane Irene is currently a Category 2 hurricane, with 100-mph sustained winds.

The entire Long Island region was upgraded from a hurricane watch to a hurricane warning as of 5 p.m., meaning hurricane conditions are expected within the next 36 hours. Currently, Hurricane Irene is located about 180 miles south of Cape Lookout, North Carolina, and about 690 miles south/southwest of Montauk, moving north/northeast at 14 mph. “It is expected to gradually accelerate as it approaches,” Mr. Tongue said.

Hurricane Irene is expected to “touch” the Outer Banks of North Carolina in approximately 12 to 18 hours. “We’re already seeing good, strong gusts upward of 40 to 50 mph along the Carolina coast,” Mr. Tongue said.

He said with 5 to 10 inches of rain expected, East End residents will be faced with flooded roadways and basements, as well as high waves, storm surges and fierce winds. Downed trees and loss of power are also concerns.

Locally, the high clouds, indicating the highest outer edge of the approach of the hurricane, can already be seen on Long Island.

Although the path of the hurricane is unpredictable, and conditions will vary based on that path, on the East End tomorrow, conditions are expected to be cloudy, with rain developing and increasing winds developing from the southeast, which will continue to increase throughout Saturday night. Tropical storm conditions, with winds of at least 39 mph, are expected to develop overnight Saturday and reach hurricane force, with winds of more than 74 mph, by Sunday morning.

Winds should shift to the west by Sunday morning, and the storm will move into New England, Mr. Tongue said. “Then, it’s gone,” he said, with clear skies and light winds predicted for the early part of the week. “It’ll be time to clean up whatever damage Irene has done,” he said.

He reiterated that it remains important for residents in the path of the storm to make necessary preparations.

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UPDATE:

9:15 p.m., Friday, August 26

Suffolk County has updated its home page with emergency preparedness information. Residents can go to www.suffolkcountyny.gov for a complete list of emergency shelters, an interactive map of shelter locations, links to evacuation information, coastal storm evacuation routes, and other critical information.
The county offers the following suggestions and tips:
· Experts agree that shelters should be a last resort; residents should attempt to find safe haven with family and friends before heading to a Red Cross facility.
· Suffolk County officials urge residents to remember that calling 911 should be reserved for emergencies, not for storm questions or to report power outages. The non-emergency number to be used for Suffolk County Police is (631) 652-2677.
· As long lines form at area gas stations, Suffolk County officials remind residents that it is illegal to charge exorbitant prices for essentials after a declaration of an emergency. To report suspected price gouging on general items, call 1-800-697-1220; to report gas price gouging, call (631) 853-5730.

Regarding transportation: the Hampton Jitney will be suspending service after 7:30 p.m. on Saturday evening going westbound, and will resume service Sunday evening at 5:30 p.m. from Southampton, providing that public roads are open.
A Hampton Jitney call center will remain open Saturday from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. and Sunday from 7 a.m. to 11 p.m. Up-to-date information will also be available at www.hamptonjitney.com.

The Hamptons Luxury Liner announced Friday that Saturday’s service to the Hamptons has been limited to early departures only, and has been suspended completely for Sunday, with hopes of resuming a full schedule on Monday.

The Long Island Rail Road will begin shutting down incrementally on Saturday at noon, in order to ensure safety for customers and staff and to protect equipment and infrastructure. Shutdowns will begin approximately eight hours before sustained 39-mph winds hit the area. For a complete list of last trains to operate before the shutdown, visit the LIRR website at www.mta.info/lirr/.

Governor Andrew Cuomo has suspended MTA fares and tolls to facilitate the mandatory evacuation of residents living in low-lying areas and the Far Rockaways.
“Waiving fares may be the factor that convinces some people to leave promptly when they might otherwise be tempted to stay and confront this hurricane,” Governor Cuomo said.

Tolls are suspended on the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge, the Throgs Neck Bridge, the Cross Bay Veterans Memorial Bridge, the Marine Parkway-Gil Hodges Memorial Bridge, and the Bronx Whitestone Bridge. Fares will be suspended on buses throughout the city and for subway and rail passengers at stations in the mandatory evacuation area.

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UPDATE:

8:10 p.m., Friday, August 26

The National Weather Service at 7:08 p.m. upgraded its Hurricane Watch to a Hurricane Warning for the east coast of the United States extending northward into souther New England, and including Suffolk and Nassau counties.

Additionally, a flood watch remains in effect for all of southeastern New York, northeastern New Jersey and southern Connecticut.

As of 6 p.m., the center of Hurricane Irene was about 650 miles south-southwest of New York City or 720 miles south-southwest of Montauk Point. It was travelling at about 14 mph. Winds were at 100 mph.

The hurricane was forecast to track north along the eastern seaboard over the next 48 hours, with its outer bands likely to begin impacting the area Saturday into Saturday afternoon. Conditions are then likely to rapidly deteriorate into torrential rains and strengthening winds Saturday night into Sunday afternoon, with increasing potential for damaging winds, flooding rains and significant coastal flooding.

The potential exists for 6 to 12 inches of rain with locally higher amounts.

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UPDATE:

8:00 p.m., Friday, August 26

National Grid, which delivers electricity to the Long Island Power Authority, issued a statement late Thursday that said it has “activated its storm emergency plan.” That includes calling in extra crew members; “pre-staging,” or setting up crews and equipment in areas expected to suffer most from the storm; working with emergency planning officials; and making sure that operations and customer call centers are appropriately staffed.

The utility’s website is www.nationalgridus.com.

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UPDATE:

7:56 p.m., Friday, August 26

Howard Waterman of Verizon said Friday evening that his company has two sets of backup power, in the event of a commercial power failure, at most cellphone towers and all switching stations, although he could not speak specifically to the East End. There are batteries, backed up by generators, at all switching stations, which he described as the neurocenters of Verizon service. The network team has been topping off generators, he said, and been in contact with fuel vendors to make sure that cell sites are fueled.

Over the years, he said, Verizon has added “significant amounts of capacity” for consumers as part of its day-to-day operations. Cellphone towers must meet local standards for such things as wind conditions, he said. Network teams are “on alert and on call as needed,” he said.

When there is a “huge, simultaneous spike in usage,” he said, some Verizon users might not be able to make calls, while others can. Texting is a good way to communicate in such a situation, he said, as it produces “short, bursty” spurts rather than more voluminous emails.

Verizon customers can call 611 from their cellphones for assistance with service during the storm, he said.

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UPDATE:

7:38 p.m., Friday, August 26

As Hurricane Irene gets closer to the East End, NOAA experts say the storm has veered a bit west and lost a tiny bit of its steam.

According to Joe Pollina, meteorologist for the National Weather Service office in Upton, Hurricane Irene is still a Category 2 storm and is currently located 265 miles south/southwest of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina. With wind speeds of up to 100 mph, “it’s weakened a bit,” said Mr. Pollina, as it approaches the North Carolina coast. Should it travel over land in North Carolina, it could weaken a little more before heading north.

The latest projections—which could change significantly in the coming days—show landfall in the region will be “a little more to the west,” in Nassau County, when the hurricane hits Long Island, probably late Sunday morning. Hurricane Irene is still expected to be a Category 1 hurricane, with winds of at least 74 mph, when it arrives here.

The East End, Mr. Pollina said, is still expected to see hurricane-force winds of more than 74 mph, with heavy rainfall of approximately 6 to 7 inches, and higher amounts locally.

Areas on the western side of the storm, including New York City, northeast New Jersey, and the lower Hudson Valley, are expected “to get the heavier rain. As the track moves west, the axis of the hurricane will move accordingly,” said Mr. Pollina.

However, Suffolk County is still expected to get heavy rain, and a flood watch will be in effect for the entire storm area, including Suffolk County, he said.

Residents, Mr. Pollina said, should “still be preparing for the worst. This is a very dynamic situation. We are monitoring it closely.”

More accurate reports will unfold as the storm moves closer, he said.

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UPDATE:

5:16 p.m., Friday, August 26

President Barack Obama declared a state of emergency for New York today at the urging of Governor Andrew M. Cuomo.

“I thank the President for his quick response. We are working hard at all levels of government to prepare for this storm and we appreciate the federal government’s support,” Governor Cuomo said.

The declaration will enable the federal government to provide assistance and resources to New York State and local governments to support activities related to evacuation, sheltering, and other protective measures.

The declaration will provide New York with technical assistance at no cost from any federal agency in support of the state’s response to Hurricane Irene. This includes areas such as debris management, logistics management and electric power generation, according to a press release issued by the governor’s office late Friday afternoon.

This assistance is for the counties of Bronx, Kings, New York, Queens, Richmond, Nassau, and Suffolk.

Additional designations may be made at a later date after if requested by the state and warranted by the results of further evaluation.

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UPDATE:

4:18 p.m., Friday, August 26

“The Coast Guard is taking this storm very seriously,” said Lt. J.G. Erin Dixon of Coast Guard Sector Long Island Sound in New Haven, Connecticut.

The Coast Guard is asking boaters, swimmers and surfers to stay out of the water. Pleasure crafts should be taken to a safe harbor, she said, and “if you can trailer your boat, move it to higher ground.” Sails, life rings, dinghies, paddles and the like also should be secured, she said. Better yet, they should be labeled with a phone number—if the Coast Guard has a report of an oar in the water, or even a loose kayak, it might send a crew out to look for a lost boater, which could endanger the would-be rescuers. A phone number allows the Coast Guard to check with the owner to make sure all is well.

Boaters can say informed by listening to VHF Channel 16 and listening to advisories, she said. The Coast Guard is stretched during severe weather, and severe weather can delay any rescue attempts. “Even our boats have limitations,” Lt. Dixon said.

She added, “This is not the weekend to learn how to surf”—wave heights and currents will be at dangerous levels even before any hurricane landfall, and rip currents can reach a speed of 8 feet per second, she said, which is “no match for any swimmer.”

“We definitely want to emphasize safety during the storm,” said Lt. Dixon. “Long Island looks like it’s really going to get the brunt of the impact around here.” She added, “Do not underestimate the storm that’s coming.”

Residents, she said, should inform themselves and be prepared with a family plan, a hurricane supply kit, and be vigilant in securing homes and boats. In addition, she said, “If an area is told to evacuate, people should evacuate. When the storm hits, the Coast Guard may not be able to help with evacuations.”

And for mariners, Lt. Dixon said the best advice is to stay on land. “As weather conditions degrade, so do the Coast Guard’s response capabilities. We’re going to tell people to stay off the water, because if they are in distress out there, we might not be able to get to them and help them. Our boats have limitations, also.”

According to Charles Rowe, public affairs officer of the Coast Guard Sector New York, based out of Staten Island, first and foremost, people should monitor the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s website, as well as websites of local and state emergency management offices.

“Mariners should be very attentive to the wind and water conditions,” he added, and check the U.S. Coast Guard website for notices and updates. “In general, be prepared for a significant and severe hurriane,” Mr. Rowe said.

Boats, at the very least, need a safe haven, a secure anchor, and a place to tie up where the vessel will not break loose. “If possible, take the boat out of the water,” he said.

In addition, mariners should secure everything in their boats and stowe away as much as possible, lashing down tightly everything that can’t be tucked away.

“The most imporant advice for now is for mariners to exercise extreme caution,” Mr. Rowe said. “Do not underestimate the storm under any circumstances.”

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UPDATE:

3:48 p.m., Friday, August 26

East Hampton Village officials, who have been meeting for two days in preparation for Hurricane Irene, have most recently been focusing on making sure the village’s flood maps are up to date, getting lines of communication in place, and “talking to each other,” meaning internal supervisors as well as East Hampton Town and Long Island Power Authority officials, ocean rescue and fire and ambulance volunteers, dispatchers, the Red Cross, fuel suppliers and other agencies, according to Police Captain Mike Tracey.

Captain Tracey and Village Administrator Larry Cantwell said another briefing is planned for 4 p.m. Friday.

Of particular concern in East Hampton Village, Mr. Cantwell said, is the prospect of fallen trees. “We have enormous trees,” and they are now in full leaf, and will be wet. Not only can fallen trees and limbs cause power outages, but they can block roads and access to people who need help. The village has been working on getting equipment ready to respond, Mr. Cantwell said, “so an ambulance can follow a payloader to someone’s house,” for instance.

As far as flooding is concerned, the areas surrounding Hook Pond and some of the areas surrounding Georgica Pond are of most concern, he said. “Fortunately, a lot of that is the Maidstone Club” rather than houses, however.

One of the East Hampton School District buildings will be designated by the Red Cross if one is needed, Mr. Cantwell said.

Captain Tracey said it was important for people to touch base with relatives and friends and to “reach out to the elderly” to see if they need help.

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UPDATE:

3:14 p.m., Friday, August 26

East Hampton Town officials will hold a meeting at 10 a.m. Saturday to brief the public about hurricane preparation and procedures. The meeting, which will be held at Town Hall, will be broadcast live on LTV (channel 20).

Officials, anticipating heavy traffic from evacuations up-island as the storm gets closer, advised voluntary evacuations townwide on Friday.

“The reason we’re doing that is to ensure that people realize that an extraordinary amount of time has to be allocated for travel, for what appears will be congested roads,” said Supervisor Bill Wilkinson.

Tomorrow, officials may decide to order a mandatory evacuation of low-lying areas, including Louse Point and Gerard Drive in Springs, Ditch Plains in Montauk, and Beach Hampton in Amagansett.

The town was making emergency preparations on Friday afternoon. John M. Marshall Elementary School in East Hampton was designated as a Red Cross shelter, but Mr. Wilkinson said officials were trying to move the shelter to East Hampton High School, because it has more room.

Mr. Wilkinson said the town is trying to set up another shelter at the Montauk Community Center and staff it with volunteers from the fire department’s Ladies Auxiliary. A shelter for pets is also being prepared there, he said.

Final plans will be announced at Saturday’s meeting.

Police were planning to cordon off beaches Saturday morning. “Not only tidal surges, but wave currents and exaggerated wave heights sometimes cause hazards on the beaches,” Mr. Wilkinson said.

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UPDATE:

3:08 p.m., Friday, August 26

The Suffolk County Water Authority announced today that it has added about 100 generators to pump stations throughout Suffolk County to provide a reserve power supply that can activate automatically in the event of a power failure caused by Hurricane Irene. Fuel suppliers will make deliveries to the generators a top priority, according to a press release from the water authority.

The authority is set to supply fresh water at emergency shelters where possible, using emergency water tanks. The agency said it is ready to keep workers on overtime if traveling makes showing up for work difficult, to provide transportation in 4X4 vehciles in key areas, and that it has fully stocked chemicals and fuel levels to help ensure that water will be available before and after the storm. The agency serves about 1.2 million residents of Suffolk County.

Cablevision, which provides phone, internet, and television service, issued a general statement and said it would provide updates when the company can “assess any storm-related impacts.”

The statement said: “Cablevision is preparing for Hurricane Irene. In the event of storm-related impacts, we will work immediately and around the clock to assess damage and complete any necessary repairs to our own facilities and in cooperation with local utilities.”

East Hampton Town Supervisor Bill Wilkinson said earlier today that the Long Island Power Authority was sending emergency vehicles to the East Hampton Airport, where they will be positioned to remedy storm damage. East Hampton Village Police Captain Mike Tracey said this afternoon that village officials had been meeting with LIPA officials as they are “gearing up” for the storm and that they have been doing a “top-notch” job of “pre-positioning” for storm damage. “They really have their act together,” he said. “They’ve seen it before.”

Calls and emails to LIPA’s media relations department were not immediately returned.

According to LIPA’s storm center website, www.lipower.org/stormcenter, power outages can be reported to LIPA at 1-800-490-0075. The utility advises customers not to touch or go near any downed wires—instead, call the power outage hotline, or (631) 755-6900, to report any downed lines.

Backup generators should only be operated outdoors to prevent the accumulation of carbon monoxide gas indoors, LIPA advises. They should be on stable ground and should not be filled with fuel while running. Gasoline should not be stored indoors. Appliances should be plugged in only after the generator is on and running, according to LIPA. Those using generators should first disconnect electical power from the main circuit breaker to avoid injuring LIPA crew members who are working on lines.

Relatives and other caregivers of customers who depend on electric-powered life support have been asked to call 1-800-490-0025.

LIPA also advises keeping written instructions on how to turn off electricity, gas, and water if advised to do so.

In addition, LIPA recommends keeping a non-electronic phone in the house, as landline phone lines often remain operational even during power outages.

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UPDATE:

2:18 p.m., Friday, August 26

According to David Stark, meteorologist at the National Weather Service office in Upton, despite some reports that the storm is weakening, the latest reports, as of 11 a.m. Friday, indicate that the storm is a “powerful Category 2,” with winds of 105 mph, and higher gusts. The forecast is for the hurricane to remain at that strength throughout its trip to the Outer Banks of South Carolina.

“It might slowly weaken, but we are still expecting a landfall [on Long Island] of a Category 1, with winds between 74 and 95 mph,” Mr. Stark said.

Impacts will be felt on the East End in the form of storm surges and dangerous winds. If the storm makes landfall west of the East End, local residents could still see hurricane-force gusts of more than 74 mph.

Other potential impacts locally include “very heavy” rainfall of as much as 10 inches, with locally higher amounts expected, said Mr. Stark.

Mr. Stark added that the probability for hurricane-force winds on the East End has increased, from 5 to 10 percent yesterday, to between 10 and 20 percent today, as the storm moves closer. As the hurricane gets closer, the probability of hurricane-force winds will increase, as long as the hurricane stays on its current track.

The probability of tropical storm-force winds, with speeds of between 39 and 73 mph, is between 60 to 70 percent right now for the East End when the storm arrives, Mr. Stark said.

Stephen Leatherman, Ph.D., director of the Laboratory for Coastal Research at Florida International University, said Thursday: “The best thing for you up there would be for it to go inshore at Wilmington [North Carolina] and stay over land. It will just grind itself out. There’s a lot of energy packed in this thing—it will take a long time for it to release that.

“A lot of people were saying ‘What happened to hurricane season?’ this year. But we’re up to the ‘I’ storm already—this is one of the most active seasons we’ve had in years,” Dr. Leatherman said, noting that this is the first Atlantic hurricane of the season. “It’s just that everything has stayed below hurricane strength and out offshore.”

He added: “There are two factors steering the storm: the dip in the jet stream pulling it to the west, and the high pressure offshore pulling it to the east. Thus far, it seems the jet stream is winning out, and it’s sliding to the west as it moves north. But it could wobble like that for a while. North Carolina is going to get it one way or the other. What happens after that will tell the tale.”

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UPDATE:

2:01 p.m., Friday, August 26

U.S. Senators Charles E. Schumer and Kirsten E. Gillibrand have called on President Barack Obama to declare a federal state of emergency for New York in light of the projected path of Hurricane Irene. Governor Andrew Cuomo officially requested the declaration yesterday.

In a letter to the president, Sen. Schumer and Sen. Gillibrand pointed out that New York has seen near record rainfall amounts during August, and grounds in and around New York City are already saturated. “Significant wind and rain from Hurricane Irene presents the very real possibility for major flooding throughout the region,” they wrote. “We must do everything possible to ensure we have the federal resources in place to protect the largest metropolitan region in the country from what could be a very dangerous storm.”

A federal state of emergency declaration would allow the Federal Emergency Management Agency to initiate emergency protective measures before, during, and after the storm hits New York. Specifically, a state of emergency declaration signed by the president would allow FEMA to assist with: warning devices (barricades, signs, and announcements), search-and-rescue efforts, construction of levees, shelters and emergency care centers, and providing food, water, ice and other essential needs, among other things.

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UPDATE:

1:15 p.m., Friday, August 26

As Hurricane Irene barrels toward the East End, the Long Island Rail Road announced on Thursday morning that a number of Friday afternoon trains to the Hamptons and Montauk have been canceled

The LIRR made the decision so that equipment and infrastructure could be secured from hurricane-force winds, which are expected to slam into the area on Sunday. Customers are asked to review travel plans and remember that depending on the force of the winds, the LIRR might shut down entirely prior to the storm making landfall to ensure safety.

Friday trains canceled so far include the 1:49 p.m. and 4:30 p.m. from Hunterspoint to Montauk, and the 7:38 p.m. train from Jamaica to Montauk. The 5:09 p.m. train from Penn Station to Montauk will terminate in Speonk instead. The 3:58 train from Penn Station to Montauk will run on Friday but will adhere to a Thursday schedule, arriving at Montauk at 6:45—and with no Hampton Reserve cars.

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UPDATE:

1:04 p.m., Friday, August 26

Hurricane Irene is getting closer to the East End—and experts say residents need to be preparing now for a massive storm.

According to Jim Connolly, meteorologist for the National Weather Service’s Upton office, said “very little has changed” since early morning reports. “The hurricane remains on track.”

Currently, Hurricane Irene is a Category 2 hurricane, with winds of up to 105 mph, and is located 750 miles southwest of Montauk and moving north at 14 mph. While some of NOAA’s models indicate a trend that would have the hurricane shifting slightly to the east, there is “no official change in the track” as of 11 a.m., Mr. Connolly said.

“We are still looking at significant impacts,” Mr. Connolly said, with Hurricane Irene expected to pass somewhere over Long Island. “People should definitely be getting prepared.”

A further position and track update will be issued at 2 p.m.

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UPDATE:

12:46 p.m., Friday, August 26

All beaches in Southampton Village will be closed as of 2 p.m. on Friday, by the order of the Deputy Mayor Richard Yastrzemski in conjunction with the Southampton Fire Department.

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UPDATE:

11:36 a.m., Friday, August 26

At a special East Hampton Town Board meeting on Friday morning, Supervisor Bill Wilkinson said that the town was likely to recommend voluntary evacuation. “We’re basically concerned that if people want to leave, they get on the road soon enough,” he said, adding that traffic could be particularly bad if Fire Island is evacuated.

“If you are thinking of leaving under these conditions, leave earlier rather than later,” he said.

An Emergency Operations group will be meeting on Saturday morning, the supervisor said, to discuss preparations and precautions for Hurricane Irene.

Red flags are already up at town beaches and will probably stay up over the weekend, he said, and some beaches may be taped off to prevent access.

“One of my chief concerns is that we have a tourist population unfamiliar with wave action, surges, and erosion,” Mr. Wilkinson said, adding that visitors are attracted to “nature’s finest” but can then get in harm’s way.

The town will focus on low-lying areas like Louse Point in Springs, Ditch Plains in Montauk, and beaches on Napeague, he said.

He had learned, he said, that if cellphone service goes out it may still be possible to send text messages.

The Long Island Power Authority is going to put emergency vehicles on a runway at the East Hampton Airport.

Mr. Wilkinson said it was his understanding that LIPA would be sending 2,000 utility workers out on Monday, if necessary, to restore power.

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UPDATE:

10:57 a.m., Friday, August 26

Southampton Town Supervisor Anna-Throne Holst said Friday morning that if Hurricane Irene is still tracking toward the East End Saturday morning, mandatory evacuations of flood zones may be ordered. A final decision will be made at 8 a.m.

“We will probably start ordering evacuations at 10 a.m. tomorrow in all the flood zones,” she said.

Residents can check the town’s website, she added, to determine if their home is located in a flood zone.

And, as Hurricane Irene continues to forge its fierce path north, experts are urging East End residents to finalize their emergency plans.

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UPDATE:

10:55 a.m., Friday, August 26

According to David Stark, meteorologist with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration office in Upton, as of 7 a.m., Hurricane Irene was sited about 860 south and southwest of Montauk Point, and moving north at 14 miles per hour.

“We do expect it to slowly pick up its speed later into today and into tomorrow,” Mr. Stark said.

Currently, the storm is a Category 2 hurricane, with winds of 110 mph, the top threshold for a Category 2 storm.

Despite the fact that the storm may have weakened slightly overnight, Mr. Stark said, “You can’t let your guard down, just because the winds came down a little bit, and because there have been little structural changes in the storm. We are still expecting it to pick back up in intensity.”

Hurricane Irene is supposed to make landfall on western Long Island on Sunday afternoon, after pummeling the North Carolina coast.

“The current track takes Irene right across western and central Long Island on late Sunday morning and into Sunday afternoon,” Mr. Stark said.

Locally, impacts are expected to include heavy rainfall, of up to 10 inches, with locally higher amounts, and gusty winds of at least tropical storm force, from 39 miles to 73 miles per hour, and possibly, “winds much stronger,” if hurricane force winds of over 74 miles per hour and higher slam the East End.

High winds spark the potential for downed trees and power lines.

Residents are urged to finalize emergency plans today, stocking up on dry and non-perishable foods, water, and batteries, Mr. Stark said. “If you have a boat at a marina, make sure you perform last minute emergency operations to secure the boat or craft,” he said.

In addition, Mr. Stark said it is critical that residents in low lying coastal areas take heed if local elected officials order evacuations. “Now is the time to comply with local officials,” he said. “It’s very important to do it while there’s still some time. You don’t want to be doing it tomorrow, when the storm is approaching.”

Mr. Stark said the East End had a “brush” with Hurriane Earl last year, but pointed out the storm never made local landfall. Hurricane Bob, in 1991, was the last time a hurricane “made a close approach” to Long Island. “The East End got battered by Hurricane Bob,” Mr. Stark said, despite the fact that the storm missed an actual “eye” landfall on Long Island.

The hurricane most closely resembling Irene in recent memory, Mr. Stark said, was Hurricane Gloria in 1985. “But it is important to emphasize that this storm is going to be potentially bigger than that,” Mr. Stark said.

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UPDATE:

10:50 a.m., Friday, August 26

Jamie Berger, director of marketing at the Animal Rescue Fund of the Hamptons, said ARF will serve as a pet evacuation center for the Town of East Hampton, but only if a state of emergency is declared. ARF can only accommodate 50 dogs and 30 cats—and no people, just pets—so it will operate on a “first come, first serve” basis. “We wish we could accommodate all the pets, but we can’t,” she said.

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UPDATE:

6:36 a.m., Friday, August 26

At 5:39 a.m. the National Weather Service issued a hurricane watch for coastal New York, northeastern New Jersey and southern Connecticut, including Suffolk County, advising residents that “dangerous Hurricane Irene to impact the region Saturday night into Sunday night.”

For Mariners, the watch is also in effect for all of Long Island and Connecticut coastal waters and New York Harbor.

A hurricane watch means that hurricane conditions are possible within the next 48 hours somewhere in the specified areas.

The weather service advises all persons in the watch areas to review their preparedness plan and be ready to implement it should a hurricane warning be issued.

As of 5 a.m., Eastern Daylight Time, the center of hurricane Irene was located about 810 miles south-southwest of New York City and about 860 miles south-southwest of Montauk Point, traveling north at 14 mph with winds at 110 mph.

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UPDATE:

6:59 p.m., Thursday, August 25

East Hampton Town Supervisor Bill Wilkinson said town officials will meet at 11 a.m. tomorrow to assess the situation as Hurricane Irene moves closer.

The supervisor said the town is considering recommending a voluntary evacuation to motel owners, if the storm stays on track. “We would ask them to consider notifying their guests because of the gridlock” that officials are concerned about, as scores of residents evacuate and head west, he said. With voluntary evacuations on Fire Island and other more western communities, Mr. Wilkinson said Suffolk County officials are concerned about the number of cars on the road.

Mr. Wilkinson said East Hampton Town residents will not be urged to evacuate, but certain low-lying locales, such as Louse Point and Ditch Plains beach areas, might be areas of focus. Potential evacuation, he said, will be “sensitive to location.”

In addition, townwide, the supervisor said an emergency operations team has been formed to coordinate efforts between police and marine control, parks and highway department staff, and animal patrols, in order to provide shelter for animals, if necessary.

Lists of senior citizens who might need help have been compiled, Mr. Wilkinson said. “We know who is in fragile condition and will require assistance,” he said. Seniors and those with special needs will be taken to the human services center in town. Radio broadcasts will be used to update residents.

“This is a time to watch out for your neighbor,” Mr. Wilkinson said. “It’s time for the community to act like a community and be careful for each other.”

The supervisor said he worries about visitors being drawn to the beaches in hopes of watching Mother Nature’s display: “With tidal surges and wave action, people unfamiliar with that could get caught very easily.”

Last year, during a storm, Mr. Wilkinson said, the town was successful in coordinating efforts of marine patrol, police, lifeguards and volunteer ocean rescue personnel to mitigate dangerous situations. Beginning tomorrow evening, the supervisor said he expects points of ingress to the beach will be taped to ensure no possible access.

“Just be careful,” Mr. Wilkinson said. “Watch out for your neighbor.”

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UPDATE:

5:46 p.m., Thursday, August 25

Southampton Town Councilwoman Nancy Graboski reported that the town’s website, southamptontownny.gov, has been updated to include important storm information and links to area, regional and national agencies. Also a link for Spanish-speaking residents has been added.

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UPDATE:

5:31 p.m., Thursday, August 25

East Hampton Village officials have been having briefings in preparation for the hurricane since 2:30 p.m. on Wednesday, according to Captain Mike Tracey. The first was with the National Weather Service, with about 12 participants, including communications, police and highway supervisors and Village Administrator Larry Cantwell. Ensuing meetings have included fire chiefs, Ocean Rescue volunteers, East Hampton Village Board members, the East Hampton Town Harbormaster, Ed Michels, other town officials and social services workers so that people with special needs can be identified.

The Red Cross typically does not assign evacuation shelters early in the storm preparation process, Captain Tracey said. If evacuation shelters are needed, emergency officials will announce where they are on local radio and television stations and send press releases out to print media.

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UPDATE:

5:28 p.m., Thursday, August 25

With Hurricane Irene expected to spark heavy rainfall, stormwater runoff, flooding and erosion, the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation announced on Thursday that shellfish harvesting areas in Suffolk and Nassau counties will be temporarily closed to shellfish harvesting, effective Monday, August 29.

In Southampton and East Hampton towns, impacted areas include all creeks, bays, harbors, coves and tributaries.

The precautionary measure was taken to protect public’s health. The DEC will reopen closed harvesting areas after testing of water samples indicates conditions are safe.

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Hurricane Irene is still heading for the East End—and experts say the impact from the storm could be greater than residents have seen in recent history.

Despite a slight shift westward in Hurricane Irene’s projected track Thursday morning, experts are still warning East End residents to prepare for the worst.

Officials are urging residents to finalize an evacuation plan and stock up on supplies On Thursday instead of waiting until Saturday, when the storm is expected to reach Long Island.

At the same time, Ashley Sears, a meteorologist for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Weather Service, said that, as of 11 a.m. on Thursday, an updated storm trajectory indicates that Hurricane Irene has shifted a bit to the west from earlier tracking.

“It’s kind of good news,” she said. As the storm shifts to the west, the area hardest hit, based on current projections, could be in Nassau County.

But East End residents should still be prepared for a Category 3 hurricane, characterized by 75-80 mph winds that could potentially reach up to 100 mph, expected to reach Long Island Sunday night.

“The last time the East End experienced anything similar was in 1985, with Hurricane Gloria,” Ms. Sears said.

David Vallee, the hydrologist in charge for the Northeast River Forecast Center who has extensive background in New England hurricanes, said depending on its track, “This is a heck of a lot like Hurricane Gloria.”

Hurricane Bob, which ripped through the area in 1991, “was a much smaller hurricane,” Mr. Vallee said. “There was not nearly the impact Hurricane Irene could put on Long Island.”

Hurricane Bob, he said, passed over Block Island in Rhode Island. Hurricane Irene, he added, “is a completely different beast. This could have a really significant impact.” And despite a slight shift westward, experts predict the hurricane could “come to Long Island basically unabated,” Mr. Vallee said.

Southampton Town Police Lieutenant Robert Iberger, the town’s emergency preparedness officer, emphasized that residents should prepare immediately. “If this thing hits the way they’re looking at it, it’s going to be something very few living in this area have ever experienced,” he said.

The East End could be looking at up to 11.5 inches of rain, Det. Lt. Iberger said. “I don’t think I’ve ever seen that kind of rain in my lifetime.”

Rain could affect low lying areas. And even homes that are not located directly near the ocean or bays could be affected by heavy flooding.

Mr. Iberger said the town is working to ensure generators are operational and facilities are secured.

Fire departments, he added, “are ready to go,” assisting with cleanup after the storm.

Southampton Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst said a meeting will be held Friday morning with department heads and town and village officials, to assess the situation.

“The town is on full alert and monitoring the situation carefully, knowing the storm has the potential to become severe,” Ms Throne-Holst said on Thursday. “It is imperative that residents begin to prepare now, while there is time to stock up on supplies, take measures to protect homes, and clearly think through how to best protect family and loved ones should we be facing a strong storm.”

Residents are encouraged to visit the town’s website for updates and Southampton’s hurricane preparedness guide, and also, to tune into local radio stations for critical information—with an emphasis on preparing as soon as possible.

“Once the event starts, we are not going to be able to come and get them,” Mr. Iberger said.

Southampton Town Councilwoman Nancy Graboski reminded residents on Thursday that the town’s recently updated and released hurricane preparedness guide states that residents need to have an action plan.

“Survival is everyone’s responsibility,” she said. “There is no way that government can take care of everybody. Rather, we need our residents and visitors to share in this responsibility, so that we can best protect ourselves, our families and our property.”

The 2011 guide includes up-to-date emergency information including important telephone numbers, checklists, tips to keep residents and their families safe, and special sections are included for seniors, pets, and individuals for special needs.

East Hampton Town’s website, www.town.east-hampton.ny.us, has a “Hurricane Irene Alert” section. As of 4 p.m. on Thursday, it said that town officials were in the process of coordinating a plan for “Hurricane Irene as the storm track becomes more definite.”

“We will post information on shelter sites and openings as they occur,” the alert said, “so please check our website periodically for updates.”

The website provides emergency and other key telephone numbers as well as safety tips for landfall, after a storm and on the road as well as suggested supplies for safe areas and for “go bags”—emergency supplies that should be kept on hand in case evacuation is necessary. There are also links to the Red Cross to track the storm.

East Hampton Village issued a media advisory this afternoon asking people to closely watch local weather updates.

“Although it is too early to predict the exact impact of the storm on our area,” the advisory said, “we are advising the public to take preliminary precautions as they should in any storm, and have adequate water and non perishable foods on hand, batteries for flashlights, should power be interrupted, and any medications that they require.”

A list of recommended supplies can be found at www.redcross.org and information about Hurricane Irene at www.nhc.noaa.gov.

As of Thursday morning, the Category 3 hurricane, with 115 mph winds, was located in the middle of the Bahamas, with bands beginning to impact areas of southern Florida.

Moving northward at 13 mph, the storm is expected to hit areas of North Carolina and then head north, with a weakening trend expected, Ms. Sears said.

Residents should begin “preparing for the storm right now,” stocking up on dry goods, flashlight, and filling up the car with gas, Ms. Sears said. “People also need to remember their pets,” she said.

According Brian Ciemnecki, a National Weather Service meteorologist based in Upton, New York, “We believe the East End will be impacted in some way.”

The exact track of the hurricane, as well as its severity, are yet to be determined, but Mr. Ciemnecki said potential fallout could include heavy rainfall, increased wind, storm surges, and waves that could severely erode area beaches. Downed power lines and trees also could pose a problem, he said.

Governor Andrew M. Cuomo on Wednesday ordered the state’s Office of Emergency Management to open to prepare for the potential impact of Hurricane Irene, instructing the state’s Emergency Operations Center in Albany to track the storm and to work with other state agencies to prepare the state’s response. Relevant state agencies have also been in communication with the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the National Weather Service to discuss the potential tracks of the storm and to determine storm planning efforts.

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If shelters become necessary, I hope the towns arrange for at least some of the shelters to be pet friendly.
By bailey (52), East Hampton on Aug 24, 11 2:37 PM
That won't happen, at least in East Hampton. Town officials, though pressed to make that kind of arrangement, have never pursued it, and the regular shelters, which are run by the Red Cross, do not allow pets. Two places in EH (ARF and the Montauk Playhouse) will accept kenneled pets but without their owners. I don't think too many pet owners will part from their pets that way.
By justthefacts (9), East Hampton on Aug 25, 11 4:29 PM
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Southampton Fire Dept said the Suffolk County College in Riverhead is taking pets.
By vanlexi (8), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 6:35 PM
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I'm sure Y'ALL know your responsilbilty in getting all small items off the lawn. Put all such stuff under wraps.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Aug 24, 11 5:12 PM
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Hope LIPA is as perpared as last year.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Aug 24, 11 9:36 PM
Let's all go to the "shelter" at the "new" Town Hall - a public building "built" by taxpayers money no less - ahhhh -beating a dead horse. The Playhouse may be designated but no generator yet -- any contibutors for the generator? There will be heavy rains on Sunday - a beuatiful day on Monday . . . if I am correct - and there is a 50/50 chance I will - please just call me
Albert Lincoln "Al" Roker . . . .
By Board Watcher (532), East Hampton on Aug 24, 11 10:11 PM
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Duct tape your windows...oh wait that was for a terrorist attack?
By bchgrl83 (52), Westhampton Beach on Aug 24, 11 11:49 PM
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Earl.

The hurricane that wasn't.

Still, I've go dibbs on the last generator...
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Aug 25, 11 12:26 AM
P.S.

OK, I'll say it.

DUCK, AND COVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Aug 25, 11 12:45 AM
I hope it blows away that huge monstrosity they're building on Montauk Highway in Water Mill.
By btdt (435), water mill on Aug 25, 11 1:11 AM
??? huh?
By johnj (978), Westhampton on Aug 25, 11 11:51 AM
I beleive he's talking about the new parish art museum..
By Woody Harrelson (5), East Hampton on Aug 26, 11 9:55 AM
Masking tape, it's masking tape on the windows. Keeps the glass pieces from shattering as badly if they blow in; if they don't it's easily removed from the window afterwards. Duct tape, not so easily, and removing it could on its own break some older windows.
By M. O'Connor (147), Southampton on Aug 25, 11 6:31 AM
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By uncleronk (136), southold on Aug 25, 11 8:43 AM
Taping is for Tornados not so much hurricanes. Even if you wanted to tape, picking up glass would be the least of your problems. You should put loose items away (trash cans, etc). Don't park under a tree, garage it if you can. Clear your gutters, be ready if you lose power (flashlights, batteries, cooler, ice, foodstuffs, radio). If you have time cut any dead branches back from the house. Rent movies, bit the beverage barn, play a game and enjoy the show.
By Hambone (508), New York on Aug 25, 11 11:21 AM
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If you have a well, along with plenty of bottled water, be sure to have either a bathtub full of water or a line up of filled water buckets ready to help flush toilets when the power goes out as it might be out for days. "D" batteries have become scarce around here, but Home Depot in Riverhead said it was getting a delivery of them this morning, Thursday. Be sure you have a battery powered radio - with fresh batteries and that all cell phones are charged, vehicles are gassed up and you have enough ...more
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Aug 25, 11 11:32 AM
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batteries are already gone....
By honeylamb (71), East Quogue on Aug 25, 11 2:41 PM
DON'T FORGET TO FILL YOUR BATHTUB AND KEEP EXTRA BUCKETS FILLED FOR FLUSHING !
By Bill in Riverhead (190), Riverhead on Aug 25, 11 11:33 AM
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oH sORRY, i JUST GOT SO EXCITED !! HEHE !
By Bill in Riverhead (190), Riverhead on Aug 25, 11 11:34 AM
National Data Buoy 41010, 120 NM east of Cape Canaveral FL, is already showing wave heights of 14.8 feet as of 12:20 EDT.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41010

Scroll down and click on the chart symbol to the left of the "Wave Height" line item. There is a real spike up in process.

Station 41001 to the East of Cape Hatteras should be interesting to watch over the next few days as well:

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41001

The ...more
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 25, 11 1:12 PM
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are u a meterologist?? "should steer Irene either to the west or east or stall in the south" really nailing it down aren't you-- IMO nobody cares what your opinion is- especially when it is different from what the national hurricane center is saying. IMO they are better qualified than you to predict storm track
By CaptainSig (707), Dutch Harbor on Aug 25, 11 1:29 PM
the guy give his opinion. you dont have to be a d**k about it.
By tm (174), mtk on Aug 25, 11 1:44 PM
The current projection for Irene has her downgraded to a tropical storm by the time she reaches NYC/LI.

Chances are good, in my personal opinion (CaptainSig, perhaps you should take out your dictionary), that Irene will undergo further downgrades. If you have better factual information, or additional URL links to post about relevant information available online (not personal attacks), for the greater good, please inform us.

Thank you.
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 25, 11 4:13 PM
PS -- The wave heights at Buoy 41010 have just gone to 19.0 feet as of 3:50 PM EDT. Check the chart at the links above for hour-by-hour readings.

Fascinating stuff available online! (especially for those with a curious, intelligent and inquiring mind, not interested in personal and angry attacks penned anonymously?).

By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 25, 11 4:22 PM
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To put the recent downgrade in graphic format, the possibility of hurricane force winds hitting LI is ZERO percent. The green 5% probability zone's tip is located in the ocean, about even with central NJ:

ttp://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/152235.shtml?hwind120#contents

North of this green 5% probability zone, the risk of hurricane force winds approaches zero.

Just the facts.
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 25, 11 4:53 PM
which word, exactly, did I spell incorrectly?? and no I don't have better factual info than the national hurricane center, as u appear to have. you posted your opinion- and I posted mine, so what's the problem?
By CaptainSig (707), Dutch Harbor on Aug 26, 11 10:25 PM
Problem? Your angry tone of voice!
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 7:43 PM
HURRICANE PLAN FOR THE HAMPTONS:

1.Remember to remove the nets from the tennis courts.

2.Remember to get the signs in the basement that say "Private Property, No Refugees".

3.Remember to fill your underground gas tanks for generator.

4. Stock up on supplies such as champagne, scotch, caviar, truffles, and live lobsters.

5. Put the Porsche and the Bentley in garage, if the BMW fits fine, otherwise let it ride the storm out in driveway(s).

6. With ...more
By garyev (3), Hampton Bays on Aug 25, 11 1:49 PM
ROTFLMAO!! VERY FUNNY!!!
By honeylamb (71), East Quogue on Aug 25, 11 2:43 PM
Garyev you are a funny fellow....lol
By DJ9222 (85), southampton on Aug 25, 11 6:06 PM
Absolutely hysterical! Made my day.
More...please....more!
By Uncle Fester (59), Southampton on Aug 26, 11 5:17 PM
I fell off the chair when I got to #9!
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Aug 26, 11 5:41 PM
Dude, that seriously is a bonafide record for "Likes"!!!!!!!
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Aug 30, 11 8:04 PM
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By They call me (2674), southampton on Aug 25, 11 2:22 PM
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By tm (174), mtk on Aug 25, 11 2:48 PM
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By hamptonsjoy, Sagaponack on Aug 26, 11 7:25 AM
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By johnj (978), Westhampton on Aug 25, 11 3:35 PM
As long as no one get's hurt it may be a nice economic stimulus going into the fall and winter,a gift from mother nature to cleanse us with.
By BlackDog (47), Boca Raton on Aug 25, 11 4:00 PM
garyev that is awesome! Keep it coming!!
By johnnyhampton (81), Southampton on Aug 25, 11 4:13 PM
I will work on it stay safe
By garyev (3), Hampton Bays on Aug 25, 11 7:00 PM
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See comments above re: Irene wave heights and her being downgraded to tropical storm etc..

Other factors to consider: New Moon is on Sunday, resulting in higher high tides, and high tide at Montauk Point is at 9:05 PM on Sunday. High tides on the ocean on the south shore of LI differ from Montauk, but in general they will occur on Sunday before midnight.

TBD
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 25, 11 5:41 PM
Yesterday afternoon Southampton Village Police went door to door on Meadow Lane telling residents that there will be a mandatory evacuation at noon on Saturday. There is the potential for extensive damage to property due to storm surge, 15-20 foot surf and a new moon tide. Heads up boys and girls, this could get ugly.
By bigfresh (4306), north sea on Aug 26, 11 6:48 AM
According to Village Police Chief Thomas Cummings, officers did not go door to door along Meadow Lane or tell residents they would have to evacuate. Village and department officials will, however, meet Friday morning to discuss storm preparation.
By Bill Sutton, Managing Editor (114), Westhampton Beach on Aug 26, 11 8:45 AM
This is obviously a fluid situation...we're now hearing that the village has called for a voluntary evacuation of Meadow Lane as of 1 p.m. Friday, and a possible mandatory evacuation at 9 a.m. Saturday. Stay tuned--we'll keep updating.
By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (201), Hampton Bays on Aug 26, 11 11:44 AM
A mandatory evacuation of Meadow Lane as of 9 AM tomorrow morning would be precipitous in my personal opinion, and an over-reaction to what is indeed a fluid situation.

To put this in perspective, how many people are currently located on Meadow Lane west of Halsey Neck Road? One would guess that many homeowners are not home because of Irene. Tomorrow is Saturday, so most builders, sub-contractors etc. will wisely take the day off.

The remaining homeowners, staff and misc. personnel ...more
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 26, 11 11:59 AM
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Have YOU ever lived through a cat. 2/3 hurricane on Meadow Lane? Have you ever lived through a cat. 4 hurricane on the eastern end of LI? well, I have and I'd get off the beach by Sat. am if possible. And the way this Irene is going y'all are on the north east side of the atorm and that is definitly the bad, meaning not good, side to be on. The storm never impacted my area in N/C Fla.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Aug 26, 11 12:35 PM
I'm with Summertime on this one--if the officials suggest that oceanfront folks should leave, I'd listen. Better safe than sorry.
By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (201), Hampton Bays on Aug 26, 11 4:48 PM
Could we be more precise with the terminology and timing, please?

Voluntary evacuation? OK at any time, with the emphasis on the "voluntary." Freedom of choice is part and parcel of our democracy.

Mandatory evacuation as of 9 AM tomorrow morning? Precipitous and not called for in my opinion.

Funny, Joe Shaw and summertime, an odd couple indeed!

PS -- let's keep our sense of humor through the "storm."
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 26, 11 5:58 PM
now he's an expert on coastal flooding and evacuation logistics! an hour??!! now I KNOW you are an idiot. So all you folks who may be under an evacuation order- forget what the experts say PBR says don't worry stay home and relax-- and oh by the way when the road floods don;t bother calling police, fire dept or ambulance-- they won't be able to get to you-- just call PBR, im sure he'll have an answer and a fancy word for you
By CaptainSig (707), Dutch Harbor on Aug 26, 11 10:33 PM
I've can bet that we've all lived through more "possible" Cat 4 hurricanes or 2 & 3s for that matter, than you've lived through the actual hurricane. If there it seems that this is actually going to hit land here and will actually be a Cat 2 3 or 4 I am sure people will evacuate. Doing so days in advance I don't really see a reason for.
By bb (878), Hampton Bays on Aug 27, 11 3:20 PM
hmm. unless you were alive about 200 years ago you haven't seen a cat 4 hurricane on the east end. Sorry
By littleplains (305), olde england on Aug 27, 11 7:25 PM
Not a hurricane on the East End (of any category). Not a tropical storm either. Just barely a gale.

The past is the past.

This the present.
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 7:38 PM
Summertime and CaptainSig. Minimum damage from only gale force winds. Did you check the links I posted and the data within them as suggested?

BTW CaptainSig are you really the famous Captain from Dutch Harbor AK of the Deadliest Catch show?

Or just a fake?

Thank you for your intelligent and non-angry reply.
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 7:54 PM
The wave heights at Buoy 41010 off Cape Canaveral FL peaked at about 32' last night. As of 10:50 AM EDT, the wave height was down to 21.0'. Check out the Wave Height chart. [links for buoys etc. are above in yesterday's post at 1:12 PM]

Thus far today, Buoy 41001 off Cape Hatteras only has wave heights of 9.8' as of 10:50 AM EDT. Given the proximity of Irene to this buoy, in my personal opinion only, the much smaller wave heights at this buoy, compared to the 32' hit at Buoy 41010 last ...more
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 26, 11 11:29 AM
This Just in Breaking News!
President Barack Obama, says Hurricane Irene is all the Tea Parties Fault, and stems from the past Bush Administration.
By garyev (3), Hampton Bays on Aug 26, 11 1:05 PM
Irene appears to be weakening IMO.

See it with your own eyes at the link below.

Click on the second radar down on the left side ("Western Atlantic Enhanced"). The coverage of the storm is widening, and the red areas of intensity are lessening. The eye is becoming more disorganized. Could this change? Of course, but the further north she travels Irene will be going over colder and colder water, robbing her of heat (fuel to a hurricane).

Plus check the size of the clear ...more
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 26, 11 3:16 PM
I am sure that hurricane Irene will be as devastating as hurricane Earl was last year!
By Raym (1), Amagansett on Aug 26, 11 6:33 PM
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I hope it's not like Hurricane Hugo in S.C. on Sept 21, 1989. That was devastating and I lived 25 miles inland. Over $10,000. in damages. But no one was hurt at my house, Thank the Lord. Things can be replaced (and they were) but people can't be replaced by an insurance company.
By Barbie793 (5), Hampton Bays on Aug 26, 11 7:21 PM
Everyone can have funabout IreneYou are VERY VERY Lucky to have Town, County and State officals taking care of you
I WAS IN THE BIG 1938 and we had to take care of ourselves until the next day when the Red cross came.
Appreciare whatever you have and THANK all the volunteers and First responders.
By Trails (2), east hampton on Aug 26, 11 7:23 PM
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By Trails (2), east hampton on Aug 26, 11 7:24 PM
7:38 update suggests Irene is weakening.

Hmmm, do we hear an echo from previous comments?
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 26, 11 7:47 PM
By your personal opinion, of course. But to respectfully disagree.. if you were in a large building, and smelled a little smoke, and then a fire alarm went off... would you get out right then or wait until you see any flames? You can't blame people for being safe rather than sorry, especially in such a populated area as LI/Manhattan. Things will remain iffy at best over the next 12 hours, of course. But just imagine if she does hit full bore as a Cat 1 or 2 and people decided not to be prepared ...more
By YesYesBub (58), East Hampton on Aug 26, 11 9:53 PM
But would you leave if someone told you that you may smell a little smoke in a few days?

The point is, people should be prepared and use their brains. BUT, promoting panic is useless and counter productive.
By bb (878), Hampton Bays on Aug 27, 11 3:22 PM
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Ditto
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 7:59 PM
Well the folks who live in bonac creek did the right thing and chose not to be there, as a couple of homes ended up surrounded by water. One house is very lucky to be on stilts as the sea took over the whole property around it. I feel that our officials did an excellent job in dealing with such a high surge and 70 mph gusts. Calling it nothing but a gale couldn't be more of an understatement when you just look at all of the pictures. A no damage, 45 mph Nor'easter is a gale, and we should all ...more
By YesYesBub (58), East Hampton on Aug 29, 11 8:30 PM
Boy I'm glad I voted for OBama. He promised us CHANGE and guess what we got. So now we get HURRICANES and EARTHQUAKES! Thanx OBama
By johnnyhampton (81), Southampton on Aug 26, 11 10:07 PM
Boy, I sure hate (is that too strong a word) all the nuts with their negative crude comments about serious actions or ideas concerning our elected officials and they have the nerve to call themselves by just local names.
johnny hampton, joe hampton, big fresh indeed!
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Aug 27, 11 8:40 AM
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If you are told to evacuate and decide not to maybe PBR would be kind enough to come get you if you find yourself in a bad situation during the storm so none of my friends and relatives who VOLUNTEER to keep you safe don't get hurt or killed because you decided to stay. Remember...it's not just your life you are risking by being stupid.
By cmac (175), East Quogue on Aug 27, 11 9:03 AM
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By wvreeland, Watermill on Aug 27, 11 10:16 AM
Good morning- thank you for all of your comments- the information and levity is much appreciated!

Regarding evacuation...officials are using the term "mandatory" for certain areas in the hope that people will comply...yet I believe that no one can legally be compelled to leave, yes?

Remaining in obvious danger zones does indeed threaten the welfare of rescue workers. In addition, doing so could potentially deflect emergency services away from people who are in trouble despite ...more
By eastendlocal1 (2), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 11:42 AM
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USCG Station Hatteras NC is reporting winds of 40 Knots and gusts up to 69 Knots. Scroll down the page here, and check the various station reporting charts:

http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/quicklook/data/IRENE.html

The eye is actually going east of this station, so it should be receiving the maximum winds in the NE (dangerous) quadrant of the storm.

Buoy 41001, 150 nautical miles east of Cape Hatteras, is reporting wave heights of 30.5' as of 10:50 AM EDT, and the chart ...more
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 12:12 PM
Correction -- the eye of Irene is going west of USCG Station Hatteras NC.
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 12:47 PM
Do whatever you have to do................just be SAFE.
By Barbie793 (5), Hampton Bays on Aug 27, 11 2:33 PM
Updated weather map from yesterday shows the high pressure system which has continued, in my personal opinion only, to weaken Irene as she has traveled north.

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/dailywxmap/index.html

Current radar views suggest similar conclusions IMO.

http://hurricane.accuweather.com/hurricane/atlantic/satellite.asp?partner=accuweather

Click on each map and decide for yourself if the eye is weakening over NC.

Stay safe.

If you are ...more
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 3:27 PM
NWS Upton 3:09 PM update indicates winds have reduced to 85 MPH.

http://www.weather.gov/view/validProds.php?prod=HLS&node=KOKX

Wind gusts and wave heights at Buoy 41001 off Cape Hatteras have decreased as well. [link in comments above]
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 3:48 PM
3:50 update -- so dramatic!
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 4:46 PM
Irene appears to be falling apart, in my personal opinion.

See all previous links, especially the accuweather.com radar ones.

"Good night, Irene."
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 5:16 PM
Per NWS 5:00 PM update, maximum sustained winds have dropped to 80 MPH.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT4+shtml/272055.shtml
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 5:58 PM
North Carolina Cape Hatteras wind gusts are now down to 68 Knots as of 6:00 PM EDT. These are the GUSTS -- average winds are reported at 30-50 Knots, and Irene is still well south of us.

http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/quicklook/data/IRENE.html

FYI
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 6:27 PM
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7:03 PM article update here, with a sub-headline of 6:47 PM --

"all that’s left to do is take cover and wait."

"Hurricane Irene has not weakened and is expected to slam into Long Island tomorrow morning as a Category 1 hurricane, with winds of at least 74 mph and a possible deluge of up to 12 inches of rain."

"Landfall, between 9 and 10 a.m, will be on the Nassau County-Queens border, bringing fierce hurricane force winds and gusts by 10 a.m.."

To quote ...more
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 7:30 PM
Article updated at 7:46 PM with new time line.

So the worst to be expected is sustained winds of 75 MPH or stronger to "pummel" us tomorrow afternoon on the East End? No actually it gets worse tomorrow morning starting at 8 AM:

“It gets worse,” said Mr. Morin. Hurricane force winds will blast the East End, beginning at 75 mph. Conditions will continue through noon, with up to 12 inches of rain. The heaviest rains, however, are expected to fall west of the storm track, ...more
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 8:25 PM
Just heard S & P downgrades Irene to a AA !!
By drteedancer (10), East Hampton on Aug 27, 11 9:10 PM
Wind is the problem folks. So, if you have trees, get your vehicles, boats, RVs, etc. to a safer location. East Hampton High School, Amagansett, and EH parking lots are tree free. Don't forget to fill your bathtubs for toilet flushing water.
By tommy j (1), East Hampton on Aug 27, 11 9:44 PM
Thanks so much for the timeline. You're doing a great job. I haventbeen able to find that information anywhere else.
By wiry (1), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 9:45 PM
Hoping that everyone on the east end and elsewhere stays safe tonight and tomorrow!!!
By Sag Native (54), East Hampton on Aug 27, 11 10:19 PM
Some suggestions:I put gallons of water in my freezer, that are now frozen. For the smaller spaces I used zip loc bags full of water, to have the most frozen containers for the refrigerator when we lose electric.

We are on what is known as the "dirty side" of the storm, so this will not be pretty. I live 3.6 miles from the ocean and I can hear the waves crashing from my front door already.

Most of the windows in Southampton Village are not boarded up with plywood, but some are ...more
By WarriorMom (61), Southampton on Aug 27, 11 11:04 PM
Here comes what may be the last band of rain:

http://www.accuweather.com/us/radar/sir/ct_/radar.asp?play=true

Click on "Zoom out to region" for a wider view.

The winds and rainfall on the East End have been WAY less than the dramatic forecasts of yesterday. The NY Times is reporting that Islip got about 2.29" of rain in the last day, and that winds overnight reached 33 MPH.

The official NWS reports for the last 24 hours should be out by 9 AM, and there are usually ...more
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 6:51 AM
Is anyone in Southampton near Shinnecock Bay?
Update ?
By Seriously. (3), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 8:09 AM
Here is where you can watch a loop of the radar picture of the hurricane, from nhc noaa.

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?rid=OKX&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes

You can see the eye of the storm is almost at NYC. We are not getting it as intense as people close to the eye.
By WarriorMom (61), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 8:20 AM
Eyewitness news just reported the bouys at 17 - 18 feet just south of Long Island. Will any of the barrier islands breach, and form an inlet, with waves coming in at those heights?
By WarriorMom (61), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 8:22 AM
Buoy 44097 south of Block Island reports wave heights of 22' as of 7:32 this morning.

Buoy 44017 SW of Montauk stopped transmitting on 8/20/11 and has not been repaired yet.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44017

These wave heights are out in the open ocean of course, and the waves get smaller as they fetch up on the rising ocean bottom. No reports of new inlets have surfaced in the news sources to my knowledge.
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 8:43 AM
As of NWS Upton 7:29 report:

http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=OKX&product=PNS

MAXIMUM high winds on the East End overnight ranged from 28 MPH in Orient to 43 MPH in Mecox.

Winds in this range are GALE FORCE winds, not a tropical storm, and nowhere near a Hurricane! How could the weather forecasters have gotten things so wrong? Winds in the last hour or two have strengthened but do not appear to have gone over 40 MPH IMO.

Similarly, rainfall ...more
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 8:34 AM
NWS 9:03 AM update shows East End rainfall totals just over 1" on the East End.

http://www.weather.gov/view/validProds.php?prod=RTP&node=KOKX

NYC and NJ totals range from 5" to almost 8."
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 9:26 AM
Okay I just had a 30 foot black locust fall across my south yard. The roots gave way in the gusts. It is the place where water tends to accumulate when it rains in my yard. What kind of gust can do that?

Earlier another tree went "pop, pop, thud" just south of that tree and I can see a large black locust limb hanging, from the "pop" after the last "thud". Fortunately the really big trees are not leaning, but losing some branches.
By WarriorMom (61), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 9:31 AM
to PBR:

I noticed the dichotomy in reports yesterday evening. The media and its linked meteorologists were predicting that the storm would hit NYC with Category 1 winds. Meanwhile, the noaa website maintained a predictive map that showed that likelihood as being about 10%.

I have seen other reports that had the storm at 75 mph as it approached NY but it seems to have lost much of its strength as soon as it hit the city.

Well, I have learned my lesson. The next time ...more
By highhatsize (4000), East Quogue on Aug 28, 11 10:41 AM
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The NY Times quotes a NWS official as saying that they are good at getting the Track of storms but not so good at the Intensity just yet, because the only close-up data they have from within the storm is from high altitudes when the hurricane hunter aircraft fly through the storm.

Hello !!!

Does the NWS know that NOAA has weather bouts all over the place and that these bouts are an incredible fount of ver precise and detailed data right IN the storm at ocean level?

Hello ...more
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 2:59 PM
Should be "buoys" -- darned auto-complete on the phone!
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 3:11 PM
Hither Woods in Montauk has reported no power since 5 am
By mkirby207 (1), Montauk on Aug 28, 11 10:41 AM
A third tree just came down in my yard in Southampton. It was another black locust. Half the apples are down from my organic apple tree. They taste wonderful already. I will be baking pies. The deer are not getting them when they taste this good. They can enjoy the locust leaves! I still have all services.

My parents are in Stony Brook and my mother reports all services out except her cell phone and 71 mph winds. No one is allowed out in the streets.

My daughter reports that ...more
By WarriorMom (61), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 10:54 AM
Thank you, SH Press, for the continuous updates you've provided throughout the hurricane, as our own town government's website was surprisingly useless in this respect.
By elliot (246), sag harbor on Aug 28, 11 11:09 AM
Power out in Village. Phone circuits busy. LIPA slammed and jammed?

Good thing this was not a REAL hurricane on the East End!
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 11:18 AM
Do what they tell ya sheople.
BTW,Thank you, SH Press for your excellent coverage.
By Johnny Nova (83), Northampton on Aug 28, 11 12:17 PM
Ditto. Great storm coverage by the Press.

Optonline is also down along with LIPA with maximum winds around 45 MPH on the East End.

What would we be facing if a Category 2 storm had slammed us with a direct hit?

Scary to imagine.
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 1:14 PM
Agreed. Well done.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Aug 28, 11 2:17 PM
Per recent update to article -- 55% of residences are without power?

In such low winds?

Mind-boggling!
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 2:19 PM
Lots of damage was done. Between the insane surf and the amount of trees that fell, I'm surprised that it's only 55% Lots of debris and damage, even around my own home. My neighbor had two trees fall on either side of his poroperty and trapped him. Things are surely crazy over here.
By YesYesBub (58), East Hampton on Aug 28, 11 2:53 PM
Power back but not Internet.

I hope that the Press will R&D why such low winds caused the long outages.

If our infrastructure is so weak why not fix this problem and help the economic recovery with one stone?

By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 6:08 PM
Really, what a tempest in a tea pot!

One hopes that the drama specialists above will come to their senses by tomorrow morning and 'fess up.
By PBR (4909), Southampton on Aug 28, 11 8:10 PM
Dune Road is closed till the mayors of Quogue Village, Westhampton Beach & Southampton Village have a conference call in the morning and decide .
By Summer Resident (232), Manhattan on Aug 29, 11 12:22 AM
Still no power in North Sea and the storm there was nothing unusual
By Q333 (161), Southampton on Aug 29, 11 12:31 PM
I suppose Irene drove him to this, lol. Obama's long-lost "Uncle Omar" has been arrested for alleged drunk driving outside Boston and detained as an illegal immigrant, this should put arrest to the mystery over the fate of a relative that the US President wrote in his memoir had legally moved to America from Kenya in the 1960s, Since the circumstances of his discovery may now prove to be an embarrassment for the White House. I hope it will not effect storm response time to those who need help from ...more
By They call me (2674), southampton on Aug 29, 11 1:19 PM
what will happen if we have an actual hurricane? no power or water for months? years? our power went out with winds in the 4-8mph range. Why would the NHC and the Weather Channel report sustained winds of 75mph in Central Park when actual readings never exceeded 18mph? Something isn't making sense. Meanwhile, LIPA is ''tweeting'' the newsconference to folks that have neither internet or television...
By kaluss (113), Southampton on Aug 29, 11 2:40 PM
4-8 mph isn't enough to fly a kite. I'd take another look at where you got your information. We had more damage than we did from those barely 60 mph straight line winds in the '08 thunderstorm, which caused havoc between Eh and Montauk, and the winds from the storm that hit springs last summer.
By YesYesBub (58), East Hampton on Aug 29, 11 8:21 PM
A click through of the Hurricane photos on the front page of 27east makes it clear that this tropical storm did some heavy damage even out on the east end a good 60-90 miles away from the eye. Cite your source for winds being in the 4-8mph range. 4-8mph winds do not take down trees.

Cite your source for winds not exceeding 18mph in Central Park - while sustained winds in the Brooklyn area were not a sustained 75mph they were in the mid 50's (according to the National Weather Service). ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 29, 11 3:38 PM
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By kaluss (113), Southampton on Aug 29, 11 3:58 PM
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Since you subscribe to the HighHatSize school of thought (where you ask other bloggers to do your research for you because you are presumably lazy or fearful of being wrong) here you go:

6AM (when you power went out) @ Wainscott winds registered at 25mph (sustained) with gusts of 38. By 9:45 gusts had registered at 58mph and sustained winds @ 33 MPH. (Source: http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=MKHTO&month=8&day=28&year=2011)

Now, cite your source ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 29, 11 9:32 PM
to Nature:

"meow!"
By highhatsize (4000), East Quogue on Aug 30, 11 12:40 AM
I'm Lord Linday Young's second cousing. Helloooooooo Hoboken!
By kaluss (113), Southampton on Aug 30, 11 9:53 AM
We did not have the heavy sustained winds or the torrential rain on the east end. However the gusts were real. The gusts took out the trees, which took out the power. Just be glad we don't have flooding like up in VT.
By Brian Bailey (36), Southampton on Aug 29, 11 5:42 PM
Well, when too many trees are burlap wrapped, dropped in a hole, have crap for a taproot, and are never really healthy trees...
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Aug 29, 11 8:00 PM
Nah, it's not the small caliber ornamentals that do the damage. The limbs of the maples and oaks are the real culprits. Most of what I'm seeing laying around are broken off maple limbs.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Aug 30, 11 10:41 AM
yes yes, You can find a way to bring your hate for the wealthy even in an article about a hurricane. Please just for one day try and remember that we all make up the Hampton's even if we are not 3rd generation well read trash collectors
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Aug 29, 11 9:50 PM
Most of the trees that line the streets of SH village are such. Nothing to do with "the wealthy".

Genius...
Aug 30, 11 8:07 PM appended by Mr. Z
And for reference, I RECYCLE newspaper, and periodicals. Usually means I have salvaged the "pick of the litter" now and then.
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Aug 30, 11 8:07 PM
Lets just say you stepped into something I know a little about and you statement was ridiculous.
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Aug 30, 11 9:06 PM
I've never seen a durable, 100% healthy transplanted tree.

Not unless it was a twig when planted...
Sep 2, 11 6:58 PM appended by Mr. Z
Then again, maybe they do pop up in rows along the side of the road, all by themselves...
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Sep 2, 11 6:58 PM
You sound like the old Lady's in Sag Harbor who despise fences. Whats the matter the trees block your view... cant be nosy as you would like?
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Sep 6, 11 1:13 AM
Irene made landfall close to Moorehead NC at about 0430 on the 27th. The wind speed recorded by NOAA, and published on their Weather site, was NE at 52 mpg with gusts to 69 mph. The NOAA recorded wind speeds up the East Coast were in the 20 to 30 mph range with gusts in the
30 to 50 mph range. This was not a hurricane in NY. You can check this by going to NOAA weather and checking the 3 day hourly reports. And you if you have an insurance claim make sure your insurance company applies the ...more
By kaluss (113), Southampton on Aug 30, 11 9:46 AM
They call me, I hear after the storm blows over and the WH helps him make bail there are plans for a new company to open up , Uncle O's Boston Lager. might give Billy Beer a run for its money
By Undocumented Democrat (1929), southampton on Aug 30, 11 11:24 AM
Still no power in Water Mill. Wtf?!!
By johnj (978), Westhampton on Aug 30, 11 1:40 PM
I am close to you and my generator went back to stand by yesterday morning. I would call LIPA and make sure they know your power is out ... If you already have not done so.sometimes they are not aware of an outage on a particular block
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Aug 30, 11 2:20 PM
bay street, sag harbor,