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May 26, 2009 5:20 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

Riverhead man stabbed to death in front of Hampton Bays Diner

May 26, 2009 5:20 PM

A Riverhead man was fatally stabbed in the parking lot of the Hampton Bays Diner early Sunday morning, according to investigators at the scene.

An ambulance took the victim, 26-year-old Calvin Butts, to Peconic Bay Medical Center in Riverhead, where he died of his injuries.

Investigators said Mr. Butts had been with a group of friends and was in a fight involving several people outside the diner at around 4 a.m. when the stabbing occurred. Police said they do not have a suspect in custody.

Frank Vlahadamis, owner of the Hampton Bays Diner, and his son James Vlahadamis, who works there, said police told them the fight that led to the stabbing was gang related, and witnesses told them the people fighting came to the diner from the Whitehouse nightclub, which is located in Hampton Bays on Montauk Highway about two miles east of the diner.

Mr. Vlahadamis and his son said as many as three people had been taken away in handcuffs, including one man who was yelling at police officers, criticizing them because he said it took a long time for them to arrive at the scene.

James Vlahadamis said his father had been in the vestibule and went out on the diner stoop to see what was going on, then ran in and told him to call the police.

“When I went outside, there was an individual lying there, pretty severely injured, bleeding from his head,” the younger Mr. Vlahadamis said. “There were so many people around. They were screaming. Everybody was freaking out. By the time the ambulance got here, they were trying to resuscitate him, giving him CPR and mouth-to-mouth.”

Mr. Vlahadamis said he saw the victim lying on his back, motionless, in a pool of blood. “It was just obviously a needless killing,” he said. “It’s really unbelievable. It’s mind-boggling.”

Both he and his father said the people fighting were not customers of the diner, but had simply stopped in the parking lot.

More than a dozen investigators, including the commanding officer of the Suffolk County Homicide Squad, were on the scene on Sunday morning. Police, who collected the diner’s security camera digital video recorders, allowed the diner to reopen shortly before 11 a.m.

The entire property had been cordoned off by police for several hours, snarling holiday weekend traffic along busy Montauk Highway.

Uniformed officers and detectives from the Southampton Town Police were joined at the scene by a crew from the Suffolk County Crime Lab and Detective Lieutenant Jack Fitzpatrick, who leads the county’s Homicide Squad. Various officers were interviewing witnesses at the scene, and employees remained inside the diner, which is located at the intersection of Montauk Highway and Route 24 in Hampton Bays.

Blood was visible on the sidewalk in front of the diner’s front steps, next to a nearby parking space, and splattered on a parked gray Volkswagen Jetta, which a County Police wrecker took away. A second wrecker left the diner with a white sedan.

As the diner was reopening, employees powerwashed the blood stains from the sidewalk.

Det. Lt. Jack Fitzpatrick said he suspects there were witnesses at the diner who left before police arrived, and he encouraged them to come forward by calling Crime Stoppers, 1-800-220-TIPS.

The Victim

Mr. Butts graduated from Riverhead Senior High School in 2001, on the honor roll. He had started for Riverhead’s basketball and football teams.

According to New York State Department of Correctional records, Mr. Butts was incarcerated at Cape Vincent Correctional Facility between March 2004 and September 2006, after he was convicted of attempted robbery.

Southampton Town Police had charged Mr. Butts with two counts of first degree attempted robbery, one count of first degree assault and a count of fourth degree criminal possession of a weapon in 2003 after he stabbed a gas station attendant twice in the chest at a Flanders Road gas station. He entered the Suffolk County Jail on the charges in April that year, according to the Suffolk County Sheriff’s Office. He was bailed out that September.

Mr. Butts reentered the Suffolk County Jail in March 2004 but stayed only for nine days before being discharged to a processing facility on his way to serve his sentence at Cape Vincent.

The New York Police Department arrested Mr. Butts in February this year and charged him with assault with intent to cause serious physical injury, a felony. He pleaded guilty this month to a reduced charge, a misdemeanor count of assault in the third degree, according to court records.

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By BeachGal (72), Hampton Bays on May 24, 09 3:43 PM
What does the Whitehouse Night club have to do with the stabbing at the diner? Not only does it have history, it brings massive amounts of revenue to the Hampton Bays, as well as all the other clubs in Hampton Bays. If any of them are a problem it is The Boardy Barn. I have seen so many people taken out in ambulances every time that is open, but noone will say anything bad about them. Why do you think King Kullen moved out of that shopping center. trust me I know first hand. The Barn would ...more
By HBays1234 (2), Hampton Bays on May 24, 09 3:59 PM
In defense of the diner, it has been in Hampton Bays forever, and was always the place to go after clubbing back in the "calmer" days, when bouncers were not needed outside the diners! (The diner in Southampton had to have a bouncer one year when a club was located next to them due to the quality of the people who entered the diner after leaving the club). It is a sad statement of how society has changed for the negative and maybe we're just about overdue for the supposed "big change" that 2012 ...more
By pegee (14), Southampton on May 24, 09 4:10 PM
it has nothing to do with Julios'. It's all about drunk and aggressive people who cannnot control themselves. As i was driving to work, i saw the cops, the detectives, the blood, and i thought about how the hamptons it's not the Hamptons anymore, especially Hampton Bays! I love the diner and i love Hampton Bays but most ppl are very ignorant!
By supernanny (2), east quogue on May 24, 09 4:31 PM
My comment in regards to hispanics was not meant to say they are not hard working people. Whitehouse is a KNOWN club for blacks and hispanics. This is NOT the general population of Hampton Bays...their patrons are drawn from Riverhead, etc. After a night of drinking most likely the patrons from Whitehouse headed down to the diner for something to eat. The DINER has promoted a hispanic night for over a year..and I believe was encouraged by the town to get a bouncer last year. Most drunks have ...more
By BeachGal (72), Hampton Bays on May 24, 09 5:02 PM
true, I agree, but it's not nice to refer to the hispanic population as "Julios".
By pegee (14), Southampton on May 24, 09 5:02 PM
i would like to take the time out to clear alot of things up regarading the events that happend at the hampton bays diner.first and foremost,no i was not there but i do know the victim personally.he wasn't there to fight,he was there after having a night out with friends.his attackers may have been gang related but he was not.it was a pointless murder that shouldn't have took place at all.the people that are rumored to have did this, should have been in jail a long time ago.these individuals are ...more
By shan009 (1), riverhead on May 24, 09 5:17 PM
As being a important person at the "old" King Kullen, and being a part things that took place, YES, the move was very much in part to the distruction that occured after the Barn closed, and yes CPI has held functions to help the community. The donate to the FD, and Ambulance, and I have attended a Grease Band event in promotion, and fundraising for the ambulance. You obvi were not there Beach Gal
By HBays1234 (2), Hampton Bays on May 24, 09 5:38 PM
what is wrong with you people? why are we all focusing on the business in which this horrid crime took place? why is no one concerned with the fact that there are are like 5 cops for every person in the hamptons, how could they not have responded any quicker? if anything, people should be mad at the ones we call "policemen". they are so busy following minorities around looking for a reason to pull them over and ticket them, they couldn't respond to a REAL emergency, and actually do their jobs ...more
By rice (3), montauk on May 24, 09 6:02 PM
Maybe if 72% of tax revenue didn't go towards paying for "public education" when less than 10% of the residents in the Hamptons overall are full-time residients and less than 4% have kids there would be more $ for a stronger police force.

Second, so happy that you're not blaming the "summer people" and you at least acknowledge that this is a "local problem."

Finally, the clubs have nothing to do w/what happened. The Boardy Barn and CPI/White House are AWESOME and if don't ...more
By BeachQueen (8), Shinnecock Hills on May 24, 09 6:11 PM
Just to inform you BeachQueen, Florida has a lot more action than the Hamptons! It is like death out here, try to find a place to have a snack after 11 oclock on a summer weekend, no less! There are more places to dance, and socialize for all ages down in Florida. For one, the police don't let any crap go on, you get out of hand, they are right there! Everything is zoned for the activities. That means, no noise complaints shutting down club music at 10 oclock. The old people there know how to live, ...more
By pegee (14), Southampton on May 24, 09 6:31 PM
Rice from Montauk is way out of line with his moronic criticism of the Southampton Police.I don't know the facts in this case and I know you don't either. What I do Know is that the Town police have the largest area to patrol on the Island and are understaffed to do so,especially on one of the biggest party weekends of the year
By vag (12), southampton on May 24, 09 6:33 PM
oh please, now it's the police that's the problem? get a life... The police officers do not hang around headquarters waiting for something to happen they are out on the road keeping the quality of life up to your standards.
By bpcooke (11), Southampton on May 24, 09 7:16 PM
CPI is a dump and always will be, it attracts lowlife scum. All as the SHPD sit at hampton bays HQ drinking coffee and eating 7-11 bagels.
By slamminsammy (104), Hampton Bays on May 24, 09 8:18 PM
vag from southampton is delusional and most likely a "cop".
By rice (3), montauk on May 24, 09 8:37 PM
The whole world is going crazy ! People should start praying to God!
By gotGod? (1), Sag Harbor on May 24, 09 9:09 PM
Hasn't anybody figured out that his name doesn't sound Spanish, so why was hispanic put in the picture right away. Do people think that Americans aren't always related to gangs? It's very ignorant to think Hispanics are the only people that relate to gangs. And i do agree that the diner brings lots of revenue.
By GE1008 (3), East Quogue on May 24, 09 9:29 PM
Rice you are an "idiot". Vag knows exactly what he's talking about. You however are talking out your a**. You should not comment about things you know nothing about. STPD patrol more area then SCPD but have significanly less officers. Get a ticket lately Rice? You sound a little bitter. Let me guess, it wasn't your fault, the cop was a jerk? Ignorant morons like you really piss me off. STPD arrived on scene in less then 5 minutes. State police barracks are in Riverhead at least 3-4 miles ...more
By concerned citizen (41), Hampton Bays on May 24, 09 9:38 PM
Most of you comentators have no clue what goes on at night. First, if your ears are up you would know lastnight was hell. Everything everywhere was breaking loose, all over the Township. Our Police as most of you say "where were they"? were busy saving lives, a car accident/fire down the road, Man having a heart attack, about 6 overdoses (drug/booze) neptunes, one guy drunk laying in the street, etc,etc,etc. I stopped they but there's plenty more. You all have tunnel vision, and oh yes tell me again ...more
By The Squirl (36), Red creek on May 24, 09 10:02 PM
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By BooyahGrandma, PJS on May 24, 09 11:15 PM
There are "lil rascal gangs"...then there is the difference of the bloods....Columbian cartel gangs...Mexican gangs...What do any of you think which gang was envolved??? Hummmm....don't want to say do you????You would be called a xenophobe? The truth will come out...and it depends on how safe the politicians will decide it will be to live here. We have an excellent police department. The sirens were going all through the night that night...If anyone is to blame...it is the gang members that killed ...more
By UNITED states CITIZEN (207), SOUTHAMPTON on May 25, 09 5:19 AM
No rice,I am not a cop,or even love one.I just don't like people who before knowing anything about what went down use these forums to grind a personel ax
By vag (12), southampton on May 25, 09 7:24 AM
Well at least this mess should cut down on traffic and noise on Elm Street this summer.
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on May 25, 09 8:36 AM
oops that was meant for another post...Anyway...it will be interesting to see what the real story is behind this MURDER...umm because thats what it was a MURDER... I doubt it was gang related. I dont know anything about hamptons street life but I feel safe in saying that black people from what I know of have no need to be part of "gang" culture. There might have been a gang of people involved but I doubt very much that it was a crips vs bloods or MS13 or whatever the "gang" element is out there. ...more
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on May 25, 09 8:46 AM
Try and ride a few shifts with a police officer. I took the STPD Citizen Academy Course. A police officer has to cover a wide area. in Southampton Township. On a typical 4 hrs. daytime shift the officer was busy dealing with drug and alcohol problems at lunch time. Those children pleading not to tell or call their parents. The paper work involed taking them back to headquarters . A trafic accident in Southampton. A heart attact victim throwing up blood on the oficer. Than he has to ...more
By Carol (109), East Quogue on May 25, 09 9:40 AM
typical, close your eyes and pretend nothing is going on, that's what the Hamptons stand for right ? the truth is that there are "gangs" in the hamptons, I personally know of a fight between gangs of riverhead and hampton bays 2 weeks ago, unbeknowist to me my daughters boyfriend is in the "riverhead" gang he's white, non hispanic and seemelnly comes from a good family.and yes they're out to hurt. we as a community have denied our young people for so long that this seems to be the avaue they are ...more
By typical (61), southampton on May 25, 09 9:43 AM
HB1234..as an important person involved in King Kullen would you explain why a store would move out because of problems, yet open another store at the same site? While boasting your self-importance there..I am sure you are way up the ladder within the KK corporation..your spelling must shine on reports! As far as my attendance at fundraisers..I DO NOT participate in fundraisers where liquor is served; however, I do make contributions to most local organizations. Yes, these places bring out ...more
By BeachGal (72), Hampton Bays on May 25, 09 10:29 AM
PEGEE..as your are defending the diner because it has been a part of the community for a long time..do you defend them providing a place for games of chance, such as poker on a weekly basis?? Granted society has changed and not for the better..but when establishments encourage illegal activities it draws a different segment of the population than you would be entertaining in your home.
By BeachGal (72), Hampton Bays on May 25, 09 10:36 AM
Unfortunatly..I was there when this horriffic incident occured.I was reading most of your posts and agree with most of them. In all honesty, wen we walked in at 330am. the dner was very crowded. I think too crowded. maybe knowing what type of crowd gathers there at such early hours there should be some extra security. on the weekends. to protect EVERYONE! At 4am... the "salsa room" let out. These people were let out through the Diner.. I guess hoping to get more customer so buy there less than mediocre ...more
By HBLADY (5), Hampton bays on May 25, 09 10:44 AM
HBLady..I understand completely your heart going out to this young man's family. Undoubtedly, his parents did not think the last time they spent time with him they woulld be faced with his murder. No matter what..there is NO excuse for someone being violent to another human. You are 100% right that the diner should provide security when they know that most of their patrons have been using the least alcohol. Amazing the State allows them to use their liquor license for a "salsa" room..I am guessing ...more
By BeachGal (72), Hampton Bays on May 25, 09 12:10 PM
By jboomboombaby (1), bridgehampton on May 25, 09 12:22 PM
Beachgal.... U NAILED IT!!! alll about GREED!! It upsets me so much! We need to get a petition going in our town for this. And how do we report this to the liquor athority? if anyone knows please post it. Someone has to stop this nonsence once and for all! LETS ALL STICK TOGETHER!!!!
By HBLADY (5), Hampton bays on May 25, 09 12:48 PM
By HBLADY (5), Hampton bays on May 25, 09 12:51 PM
Our police are not hired to be baby sitters while on duty... They are peace officers. The cost should not be on the taxpayers to have a policeman and a car stationed outside of bars , ect, on taxpayers time. The costs should be paid by the owners of these establishments. I understand the BoardyBarn pays for the extra police protections and hopefully for the police car engines running full time in the parking lot..... This type of work should be done on non taxpayers and non police duty ...more
By Carol (109), East Quogue on May 25, 09 1:13 PM
Here you to HBLady...just fill out the apropriate paperwork on their site. www.abc.state.ny.us/ ...also anyone that thinks the town needs to post a police car at all the places in town that has unruly customers needs to get a grip. If a police presence is necessary, how about these establishments hiring off-duty police officers in uniform. Why should the taxpayer have to eat the costs of security when these establishments are being greedy and putting others a risk?? Our town police are under-staffed ...more
By BeachGal (72), Hampton Bays on May 25, 09 1:30 PM
Our police force bust tail all year round but even more so on holiday weekends. Summer brings the dregs of society to our towns to party. They think its a free for all here. The upislanders are the most obnoxious spoiled slobs coming out here. Its not the summer people anymore. The people peeing in the aisles and in parking lots are usually from the west. Its very sad this guy died like this. But the murderer will be caught. Anyone who thinks the Bloods and Crips and MS13 arent here......is in denial.
By squeaky (288), hampton bays on May 25, 09 3:20 PM
Wow. I don't know what a "salsa night" is, but it doesn't sound OK, based on the comments. I do know this: we go to the diner on occasion for breakfast or lunch, and like it. If I had ANY idea that activities that jeopardized the community took place there, it is most definitely not the only game in town, and we'd pass it by and get comparable food elsewhere. Like we plan to do, after reading this.
To HB lady, your evening was horrific. If it turns out that your account of events is accurate ...more
By LM (35), riverhead on May 25, 09 3:21 PM
How about some simpathy for Calvin. His life was stolen from him. Regardless if his murderers were in gangs or not they obviously bad people. I've lived here all my life. I love it here. However, unfortunately there are gangs. Bad do things do happen. Bad things happen everywhere!! And for all of you that are saying to close down the Boardy Barn and the rest of nightclubs, just remember that our communities depend on the revenue. Do not blame the establishments. What would us locals do if it didn't ...more
By Jessica713 (20), Easy Quogue on May 25, 09 3:59 PM
I would like to start by saying that it is a horrible thing that this happened to this young man. It is also a horrible thing that this had to happen in our town. Whether you want to realize it or not that is a mojor gang problem in Flanders, Hampton Bays, Riverhead, Bridgehampton, and Greenport, just to name a few. You have MS-13, Bloods, Latin Kings, and other less known gangs operating in these areas. You have a town that is hell bent on ending the tourism money from young people. When i moved ...more
By yearroundresident (4), hampton bays on May 25, 09 4:41 PM
Thank You Yearround! Thank you for taking the time to write such a lovely letter.Its obvious that you care... and we need more people like you! AMEN to all you said! And Thank you for the information Beachgal... I will look into this. Maybe we as a community we can form some sort of group to try and clean up our neighborhood?.... To help the police! We need to be possitive. Lets really do this! It's only the begining of the season... we need to get something going soon! Let me know neighbors! ...more
By HBLADY (5), Hampton bays on May 25, 09 5:30 PM
I moved to Hampton Bays from Manhattan two years ago. I now live here full time. I chose to live in Hampton Bays for many reasons. Hampton Bays can be a really cute beach town if taken care of properly. First we have to stop local establishments from serving to gang members. All these clubs and late hour establishment MUST hire security or better yet hire off duty police. If we want this community to thrive we can't be afraid of diversity but we must keep it safe and gangs just mean trouble. ...more
By gdgbays (1), Hampton Bays on May 25, 09 5:49 PM
I thought the town had already shut down the diner's latino night ? The diner's owners were/are breaking the law by running dual useages .

The town should buy the whitehouse property and tear it down and make it into a park or something like they did to those beach bars on Dune Rd.
There's only one beach bar left in that area of Dune Rd. , Neptunes.
By PrivateerMatt (390), Weesuck Creek , EQ on May 25, 09 6:40 PM
as someone who spoke calvin almost everyday. i can say he was no "gang member". we had our own crew. we looked down on those fake little thugs. i can also say many many times, i personal, tried to get him to move out of riverhead. i told him, its nothing up there. come to nc or atl, we'll help u find a job. his only respones was always, " i should right." he just never made the move. now, i get the felling we didn't push him enough to move. almost like we left him up there alone. something tells ...more
By impala583 (1), charlotte on May 25, 09 7:01 PM
A salsa night is a night of dancing. Salsa is a major ballroom dance. Although I am not hispanic and don't go to the nights at the Diner, there is definitely nothing wrong with any form of dancing, especially ballroom, to which I am a student. The problem lies in drinking, drugs , and a lack of security!! If you have a "club" you need security and bouncers, and have to try to control the amt.of liquor being imbibed by your patrons. Like they do in other states, Like Florida.It should ...more
By pegee (14), Southampton on May 25, 09 7:32 PM
PEGEE...there is NOTHING wrong with salsa dancing...what is wrong here is that an establishment is being allowed to do business like a "CLUB" but does not have the proper licensing for it. Nor does it have a licensing to conduct games of chances. Hopefully with the county's involvement someone will follow thru and do something. The owners of the diner have for YEARS been trying to bring some type of "club"..if not mistaken, they originally tried to do this on the east side of the canal and could ...more
By BeachGal (72), Hampton Bays on May 25, 09 9:53 PM
BeachGal really needs to get her facts straight. Besides the obvious bias she has toward the diner, she is presenting many falsehoods as fact.
First, she is saying that the diner provided the games of chance and that created a dangerous environment. The diner has not had a poker game for almost a year and a half. When the diner did provide a place for the game, they were taking no cut and only making money by serving food. Also, the people that frequented these games were good people in the ...more
By beachboy (1), Hampton Bays on May 25, 09 11:31 PM
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By The End (13), Riverhead on May 26, 09 3:27 AM
Please think about what you are saying. Yes, I guess I am bias against the diner because I do not approve of ANYONE breaking the law. You acknowledge the fact that the diner hosted or provide space for patrons to play a game of "chance". Glad to hear they no longer are taking place. It is AGAINST the ABC laws in this State to have gambling on the premises. There are several different types of liquor licenses. I doubt the diner has a "CL" license..therefore it is very questionable ...more
By BeachGal (72), Hampton Bays on May 26, 09 7:14 AM
There is a reason it is called 'Compton Bays'
By C Law (313), Water Mill on May 26, 09 8:58 AM
Its time to take our town back - The dinner should serve food only - no card games no club nights and if this club Whitehouse is such a problem and brings a bad element into our town then the doors should be shut - and to the family of Mr. Butts I am sorry for your loss - no matter what people say about him or what life he chose to live I am sure you loved him.
By jacks (70), hampton bays on May 26, 09 9:54 AM
I am appalled at the comment that you leave The End. He got what he deserved? What is wrong with you. A 26 year old man lost his life. What if it had been your family member or friend? Would you say they got what they deserved. I'm disguted to know that I live in a community with people that think like you. My thoughts and prayers go out to Calvin's family and friends.
By MD (17), Southampton on May 26, 09 9:58 AM
Dead is dead. There are so many ways one can enjoy their life besides getting stabbed in the parking lot of the Hampton Bays diner. No he'll never know.
By ride the truth wave (125), southampton on May 26, 09 10:15 AM
in ref to the false comment from "the end". calvin was not a member of the flame unit. the flame unit is a bunch of local punks that terrorized calvins younger bro for the majority of his high school years.. so what if calvin did jail time, that doesn't give anyone the right to kill him. your a hater.. the fact that calvin decided to change his life around was a blessing. he did work the majority of his time. maybe next time u should research ur facts before u put them out there.. calvin rest in ...more
By shea (2), riverhead on May 26, 09 10:20 AM
I remember a time when all this bull did not go on.

I remember a time when we didn't need so many police officers, and had a negligible crime rate.

You want to pin blame on anyone, pin it on the nitwits who exploited this place for every cent they could, and brought this element to our town.

If it wasn't for all the publicity and citdiot wealth, we would still be a relatively quiet resort community without a population it cannot sustain properly.
By Mr. Z (9930), North Sea on May 26, 09 11:57 AM
For people to come on here and leave negative comments ... WOW shame on you. NO ONE deserves to die, especially the way he did. If you have nothing nice to type ... you shouldn't type anything at all. The majority of you commenting on this particular story did not know Calvin Butts. And have no right what so ever to bring up his PAST mistakes. Let Jesus be the judge of that. Just worry about yourself ... Let him REST IN PEACE. Thats the problem with people nowadays ... always minding other people ...more
By goodashuneybee (1), Riverhead on May 26, 09 12:45 PM
Why is the diner open after midnight anyway??? Salsa night or no salsa night, what kind of crowd are they attracting after midnight on a weekend?? I mean really, lets face it, the only people there are the after hours crowd that are hungry after a long night of drinking! I know 5 years ago, thats where I would go after the clubs! There was always someone arguing or some kind of altercation when I went! And yes, the food was so disgusting and sub par, as if they knew it was only a bunch of drunks ...more
By Miss K. (98), East Quogue on May 26, 09 12:53 PM
It was gang related....the reality is that these places are now attracting gangs. It's not a matter of race...it was gang related... Use your common sense. Would you want to go somewhere that attracts gangs?... not me!!! I was at the diner with friends a few weeks ago and i plan never to step foot in there late night ever again. The economy failing has been a contributing factor to this & other events that have taken place this past weekend. It's just the reality of our country right now. It's ...more
By mfoley (5), West Hampton Beach on May 26, 09 3:41 PM
Ok...1st, to GDGBAYS: You are absolutely right! Local establishments MUST stop serving to Gang Members! I don't know why they haven't thought of that! I'm sure it's really easy to do so....I mean, after all, the first thing I do when I go to the diner is whip out my "Honorary BLOODS Member" card...with my picture ID, of course...
2nd...to BEACHGAL: WTF is up with your obsession about the poker game and games of "Chance"???? Who cares???? There were no games of chance going on Saturday night ...more
By LL (2), East Hampton on May 26, 09 4:33 PM
Lol!! LL your last sentence could not be more true. Its the up island guidos that cause most of our weekend trouble. No one deserves this kind of death. Very sad.
By squeaky (288), hampton bays on May 26, 09 4:45 PM
LL: great posting. Look at the geniuses on here - asking why a diner is open past midnight! Isn't that the point of a diner?

People out here are just unreal. Stupid, racist, small minded people blaming everyone for everything else.

I'm surprised no one has asked that jerk off from the 7-11 in Southampton to start "protesting"... I mean you know that Salsa dancing is a surefire sign of illegal immigrants!
By littleplains (305), olde england on May 26, 09 5:41 PM
Geez Little plains..... you really are too hung up on the immigrations thing. Maybe go simmer down, have a beer or Valium.
By squeaky (288), hampton bays on May 26, 09 6:33 PM
LL..obviously you are still in a stuper from your long weekend. It isn't the poker..nor is it the "salsa" room ..it is the illegal use of an establishment. Possibly Mr. Butts wasn't there for the food, but to continue his clubbing?? The diner is NOT licensed to be a club PERIOD. If this is something that happens in the clubbing scene frequently..possibly they all need to address the issue with heavy security. Very sad when you accept this as the norm. FYI..when you have a liquor license you ...more
By BeachGal (72), Hampton Bays on May 26, 09 7:27 PM
Butts was BLACK, Not Hispanic, Almost all 15 were Black.... I was at the light going to work when It happened.Hispanics had nothing to do with It! show me a Hispanic over 30 that is not working and I bet he is at church or doing his laundry, And the bad Hispanics, all of which are under 30 learned their bad behavior from the Blacks in the USA.When are we going to stop making excuses for these criminals.If i was a hard working person of color I would be even more pissed off that these gang banging ...more
By joe hampton (3043), south hampton on May 26, 09 10:27 PM
I AM SO SICK OF ALL OF THE RACISM! and it disgusts me that every single person in here posting ignorant, racist, and finger pointing comments are all locals! For the last time, he was not in a gang! He did not desreve this! The Boardy Barn has nothing to do with it! There will ALWAYS be stupid people soing destructuive and stupid things. Shutting down all of the clubs and bars is only going to make this place suck! It's going to ruin our economy and ultimately our community. And not for nothing, ...more
By Jessica713 (20), Easy Quogue on May 26, 09 10:57 PM
I cant believe how truley ignorant people are! Im truley sick to my stomach knowing i live around some of you!
Calvin Butts was not a gang member! He was a good guy who made mistakes and will only be judged my GOD! n none off you. He will truly be missed and was loved by many, my familys prayers go out to his family and his brother! And you Joe hampton are an idiot! The last thing i want to do on the computer is respond to fools like you and other posters on here but i created an account ...more
By shlady09 (5), southampton on May 27, 09 12:55 AM
I just dont understand how a DINER can have a salsa or poker night?>? Wheres code enforcement for this one?
By hhhub (10), speonk on May 27, 09 12:39 PM
The owner of the diner has a lawsuit against the town police department, charging them with harassment due to the fact that they issued summons to the diner for violations, as well as some the its patrons (hispanic). The owners have tried to portray the local police as bigots and racists, so that they may gain financially.

The most likely scenario here is the the local police department has been avoiding any unneccessary presence at the diner, due to them having to walk on eggshells ...more
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on May 27, 09 2:20 PM
Funny. No one was calling for police to be stationed at restaurants last summer after that WHITE golf pro beat a guy to death at Southampton Publick House.

Oh wait... the victim there WAS a cop, if I recall correctly.

The point is, all kinds of people kill and injure each other. All of these posters are just racists who jump to wild conclusions based on skin color. God help us if any of you ever sit on a jury.
By littleplains (305), olde england on May 27, 09 3:00 PM
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I don't know what's more depressing; the violent and anti-social behavior that bars spawn, or the 6 or 7 empty, boarded up bars on Montauk hwy. between Westhampton and Hampton Bays. Let's face it, we are living in a drunken culture. Got forbid the mothballed bars were converted to some other form of social interaction that didn't involve booze, bouncers, brawls and blame. (But change is driven by profit, and now even the bars have proven unprofitable. So what do we have left?) Here you have ...more
By endthetyranny (2), westhampton on May 27, 09 3:00 PM
Hey littleplains, where do you get that "WHITE golf pro" business?!?

The accuased attacker, Anthony Oddone. was an employee of The Bridge in Noyac. How does that make him a "golf pro?"

And no, another think you don't remember correctly -- the victim was not "a cop," but a Suffolk County Department of Corrections Officer.
By Frank Wheeler (1766), Northampton on May 27, 09 4:37 PM
This really shows the mentality of Hampton Bays and it is sad. You moved here when the clubs were here and then you complained about them. Guess what i moved onto eleanor in hampton bays because the neighborhood was more affordable and guess what i knew there was a club there. I turn on my air conditioner at night and dont hear a thing. I have lunatics as neighbors that wanted me to join their association ( Lynch Mob ) I refused. I am sleeping soundly while lunitics are calling and waking up their ...more
By yearroundresident (4), hampton bays on May 27, 09 6:04 PM
I also forgot to point out that the victim was local how much do you want to make a bet when the police make an arrest they are local also. Nothing to do with the summer crowd
By yearroundresident (4), hampton bays on May 27, 09 6:53 PM
i hate to break it to all of you-but this could have happened ANYWHERE in the hamptons. it has nothing to do with salsa night, latino night, or anything else like that! it has more to do with how kids are raised these days and that respect and good character are a thing of the past. especially in the hamptons-no one gives a crap about anyone other than themselves. i wouldn't be surprised if we begin to see more murders out there.
By haj80 (11), Chapel Hill on May 27, 09 7:27 PM
I agree times are changing and there is more and more violence in our society, and it is right here in good old HB. It all starts at home and look at the children we are turning out of our local houses. this new breed of child has no respect for authority going from their parents right up to law enforcement. Parents keep an eye on your kids, and be tough with them. Parents now adays are pacifists and allow this mentality to breed.
When people my age were in their 20s we never had to worry about ...more
By yearroundresident (4), hampton bays on May 27, 09 8:18 PM
State Cops do sit around the station, although when I saw it there were about 5 watching Nascar on a Saturday night last summer. And the Boardy Barn crowd ends up at the train station terrorizing anyone who wants to take the train back to the city. That doesn't really help the Hampton Bays image. And now a murder at the Hampton Bays Diner where I used to go as a child and still go when I need an early morning breakfast. The town is on the edge of tipping either way--towards the higher end classy ...more
By davidf (325), hampton bays on May 27, 09 9:07 PM
Frank Wheeler: You can nitpick and split hairs all you want about whether a golf caddy is a "pro" and whether a corrections officer is a "cop".

The point is that no one called for shutting down the Publick House when a murder occured there - because it involved two white guys instead of african americans or hispanics.

or maybe I should refer to them as "bloods and crips" or "coloreds" or "spanish" to satisfy all the racists in our midst.
By littleplains (305), olde england on May 27, 09 9:49 PM
David wrote... "The town is on the edge of tipping either way--towards the higher end classy Hamptons or the slums of Flanders". And I thought it was worth repeating. Let the million dollar timeshare come in and level C P I , Its not what we remember It to be, Just drive by and take a look at the line to get in one night. And how about a international house of pancakes to replace the Dinner. one more thought lets stop busing our kids from Red Creek to Riverhead High School.Hampton bays has more ...more
By joe hampton (3043), south hampton on May 27, 09 10:05 PM
What do you people think this is???

Blazing Saddles!?!?!?

You ain't Mel Brooks, and your labeling, bigoted crap "tain't funny McGee".

Last time I checked, my blood is red.

What about yours?
By Mr. Z (9930), North Sea on May 27, 09 10:08 PM
little plains, Its not people of color we are objecting to, It is gang banging, racist,foul mouth,trash. The thug from publick house would fit that description and my guess is so would you. I new the corrections officer and his family.The poor man was trying to save money be moonlighting to take his wonderful family on a well deserved vacation.So be a little more respectful. His wife is a lovely lady who still lives here in town and reads this paper!
By joe hampton (3043), south hampton on May 27, 09 10:25 PM
Well Joe Hampton, Calvin has family too. The press could only dwell on this kid had a record. He made mistakes and made bad choices in his young life. HE STILL WAS MURDERED. He was MURDERED by cowards who left him there at that diner to DIE. He was also MURDERED by the witnesses who would not come forward and advise the police who created this tragedy. We all know this crime will be forgotten because of who the victim is a young black man. H e was not a rich city kid or a town brat.....
By tulip (8), calverton on May 28, 09 9:10 AM
Sorry Tulip, thats a cop out. We do care! He dies for no reason but his past may have something to do with it so that needs to be looked into. They were cowards and so are the witnesses. I don't have to live where they do and have dealings with the murderer but they do and maybe they are scared. They will be caught somehow, someway I truly believe that. The cops will work it but if noone tells what happened how is that their fault? The race card is old so give the cops the info they need and they ...more
By squeaky (288), hampton bays on May 28, 09 9:34 AM
Joe Hampton: I never wrote one bad word about the poor guy who was murdered at Publick House. I just pointed out that when he was killed, everyone called it a tragedy and rallied to raise $ for his family... but when an african american guy gets killed, he is automatically labeled as a "gang banger", "trash", "blood and crip" guy who deserved it. read these postings.

Just amazing that people on these boards can make so many conclusions and assumptions about a guy they never met, and ...more
By littleplains (305), olde england on May 28, 09 9:47 AM
This is a horrible tragedy and my heart goes out to the family and friends of the Mr. Butts.

I have to agree that the Diner is implicit in this situation. While I understand that a Diner is a 24 hour business, their "club" in the back of the dinner is nothing but trouble. To state that they haven't had a poker game in over a year does not change the fact that they did break the law by having illegal gambling; they are acting as a club even though they are not supposed to and, while I ...more
By bb (772), Hampton Bays on May 28, 09 10:00 AM
My condolences go out to Mr. Butts' family and friends. This was a senseless tragedy that should've never occurred. Our prayers are with you.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on May 28, 09 2:35 PM
davidf dribbles:

the slums of Flanders

Care to point them out slick?

Once again this moron can't post without crying about the cops or troopers. Just how many traffic tickets have you gotten??
By Terry (380), Southampton on May 28, 09 2:59 PM
Little plains.... People who work at the diner claim 15 black men came in through the back room.Then at closing filtered into the front with the rest of the crowd.It seems they were on a mission to hunt down Mr Butts. Why is still being investigated. Some said they over heard something about an altercation at a different club.Some said Mr. Butts smashed a bottle of Hennessey over a gang members head. I have heard this from a friend who is S.H.P.D and was part of the call to respond. All of this ...more
By joe hampton (3043), south hampton on May 28, 09 10:05 PM
Ok I have watched comment after comment since Sunday and I have finally had enough! I went to school with Calvin. I graduated with him and I was absolutely blessed to have known him. This is such a horrific tragedy, it makes me nauseous to even think about. This has nothing to do with the color of his skin or the color of his clothes...Calvin was NOT a gang member! This whole altercation was a fist fight taken to the next level because nowadays, nobody fights with their hands...I don't care what ...more
By Ligirl33 (3), riverhead on May 28, 09 10:41 PM
Yeah ok ligirl33. Why don't you tell the folks out there how Mr. Butts stabbed and robbed the gas station attendant in Flanders a few years ago, and the time he was arrested for injuring a police officer while making a drug arrest and resisting arrest. Hmm wasn't it just 3 months ago he was arrested again for assault ???? Amazing person??? Are you for real????
By The End (13), Riverhead on May 28, 09 11:34 PM
yes im very for real...anybody who can read should already know what calvin did in the past, whether it be 3 years or 3 days ago. I knew him when, and I suppose I will always think of him that way. Last I checked I wasn't the one to judge anyone. I do know that no matter what, he didn't deserve to be killed. No matter what he did...he was somebody's son. I was raised to hate the sin but love the sinner and I loved him.
By Ligirl33 (3), riverhead on May 29, 09 12:09 AM
littleplains, you are scarcely one to complain about others "conclusions and assumptions!'

What you tried to dismiss as "nitpicking" and "splitting hairs' was nothing more than correcting your Comments which, as usual, are based on things you know little about,

You were wrong on more than one of the "facts" you prentended to have knowledge of! Stop trying to weasel out of it.

By Frank Wheeler (1766), Northampton on May 29, 09 2:38 AM

All people do not cross the line and fight with anything but words in writing or orally. Sadly those involved have never been taught right from wrong, let alone self-respect. Yes it is sad that a life was lost, but hopefully it is a lesson finally learned by his so-called friends and they don't try to take the law into their own hands. Anyone that was with him when this happened knows who was involved. If they loved Calvin, out of respect for his memory they have or will turn ...more
By BeachGal (72), Hampton Bays on May 29, 09 9:34 AM
What makes you think they haven't? I know who did it and as per his family so do the police.
By Ligirl33 (3), riverhead on May 29, 09 12:09 PM
First let me send sympathy to the family and friends of Calvin Butts. Death at any age is difficult but murder is even worse. Second - all those people in the diner that saw this and not one of them whipped out a camera cell phone and took pictures of the culprits or the getaway cars? Gang related or not - this was senseless and I truly hope that the family can grieve and hopefully find not only peace, but justice to the horrible jerks that did this. A young man died for what? I hope that ...more
By LovedHerTown (118), southampton on May 29, 09 1:12 PM
what's really sad is all you people are so quick to point your fingers at the clubs/police/diner ect. how about trying to help find out whos fault it actually was.. if anybody was a witness to the scene they should come foward and get the people who did this horrible thing.. i dont think its right all you people are talking bad about the diner, it has nothing to do with the fact they have a latin night, because as fas as i am concerned, the back was closed before any of this happened.. i lived in ...more
By lilmama2212 (1), hampton bays on May 29, 09 6:30 PM
LilMama..DINERS should NOT need security BUT when a diner uses it back room for dancing or whatever it becomes a CLUB...and the DINER does NOT have the appropriate license to operated a CLUB. How freaking ignorant are you people..sadly, this young man lost his life..BUT if the diner did not promote a CLUB atmosphere..possibly the young man might not have been there. There are very conflicting stories about the young man entering the "salsa" room prior to his death..so please let the police sort ...more
By BeachGal (72), Hampton Bays on May 29, 09 8:49 PM
The article in the Independent May 27 2009,Printed according to police reports the the incident was gang related, It also says.. The owner of the diner himself Mr Vlahadamis said , And I quote "A gang of 20 were involved all attacking one fellow. All of those Involved in the attack said Vlahadamis were black" Maria Vlahadamis said " the diner's bar which caters to a Latino crowd, has not been an issue.but this was a different element"
By joe hampton (3043), south hampton on May 29, 09 10:02 PM
I'm gonna make this short and sweet. Neither the killer nor the victim are gang members. I grew up with both of them. None of you people commenting no either of them. It's a terrible tragedy that never should have happened but it did. The WHITEHOUSE isn't responsible and neither is the DINER. I know the whole story INSIDE and OUT but no need to AIR it out on here to people who HAVE NO CLUE.
By stopplayin (4), riverhead on Jun 1, 09 6:42 PM
Stop playing, How hypocritical your name is....you say you know the whole story but yet you will not set the record straight???? Why?
By joe hampton (3043), south hampton on Jun 1, 09 9:57 PM
The record is SET STRAIGHT.

According to the Suffolk County Sheriff’s Office, the county jail’s Gang Intelligence Unit did not label Mr. Butts as a gang member—inmates are screened for gang affiliation when they enter the jail.
By stopplayin (4), riverhead on Jun 1, 09 10:52 PM
The SUSPECT turned himself in this morning and was arraigned today.
By stopplayin (4), riverhead on Jun 1, 09 10:54 PM
By shea (2), riverhead on Jun 1, 09 11:20 PM
How did he go to sleep...I guess he just cranked up the latest ONYX cd so he could not hear his conscience anymore
By joe hampton (3043), south hampton on Jun 1, 09 11:33 PM
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By joe hampton (3043), south hampton on Jun 1, 09 11:48 PM
UMMMMMMMMMMM, everyone knew who did it, including the cops. They were looking for him all week and i'm not the only one who knows the story inside out. Anyways, I will no longer be commenting on this, IT'S OVER!!!
By stopplayin (4), riverhead on Jun 2, 09 3:31 PM
hypocrits you wanted to blame htis senseless killing on Latinos...well it was one of your own, so stew on taht, it had nothing to do with the diner or a bar it could have been anyplace you backyard for example...typical hamptonite, you forieners never grow up or face facts, go ahead point fingers, tha's what you do best...thank God I'm not one of you anymore..
By typical (61), southampton on Jun 2, 09 10:06 PM
Next time turn the spell check on so we can figure out what you are writing.
By The End (13), Riverhead on Jun 3, 09 2:53 AM
All the negativity and for what? It seem as if some people are living in the past. Still referring to people by the color of their skin. What is one of your own suppose to mean? I am of two different racess so which one will we blame today. Who actually sat and counted the number of people that attacked before calling the police. I know a lot of different p[eople from all cultures and they listen to rap. So what does Fifty Cent...Onyx ...T.I...Da Brat.. Jay-Z etc.... have to do with anything? That ...more
By ME09 (1), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 3, 09 2:14 PM
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ME09 I was not looking at color ...What I was looking at was the lyrics, They glamorize killing. As well as stealing , beating females,gang culture,abortion,and general disrespect for anything descent. I invite anyone to goggle Onyx lyrics... you may be shocked how similar they are to the events we have seen lately in our town.Its not about color Its about ignorance.The Ideas the music they play at the clubs promotes has no place on our streets.
By joe hampton (3043), south hampton on Jun 3, 09 7:36 PM
Oh my god!! where do I start I'm going to keep it simple. I read all of these comments and it sad that we still have so many ignorant people in this world that can only focus on the color, and acCacusations of those involved being in a gang. HELLO ! someone lost their life and it was all sensless for what? I knew Calvin personally as well as the person who killed him, neither one of them were in a gang. Think about some of the things you say before opening your mouth espically if you don't know ...more
By ButtaPecan (1), riverhead on Jun 4, 09 12:10 PM
Calvin Butts was murder an a victim on May 24, 2009. If you don't know the facts on Calvin Butts please keep your negative comments 2 yourself.
The newspapers do not know all the facts, they do not care about the facts just putting out a story. I will not comment on the story or facts because its still under investigation. Thank you
By Faith (10), Riverhead on Aug 9, 09 2:42 AM
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