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Aug 14, 2013 11:02 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Revised Canoe Place Inn Proposal Is Receiving Mixed Reviews

Aug 14, 2013 2:49 PM

Before the Rechler cousins made their most recent development pitch to renovate a dilapidated, historic hotel and build 40 new townhouses on the opposite side of the Shinnecock Canal in Hampton Bays, many residents and community groups had already come to the same conclusion: one way or the other, the project eventually will happen.

The proposed project came up for discussion before the Southampton Town Board on Tuesday afternoon, the start of the public hearing process on the request by Gregg and Mitchell Rechler to create a Maritime Planned Development District (MPDD) allowing them to move forward with their redevelopment plan. Tuesday’s meeting also marked the start of the review on the project’s draft environmental impact statement.

Their plan is already drawing a strong array of opinions from hamlet residents, some of whom support the project and others who remain vehemently opposed. Supporters are praising the proposal for renovating—and saving—the historic and derelict Canoe Place Inn on the west side of the canal, and the new tax revenue it and the townhouses would generate for Hampton Bays. Opponents are lamenting the density of the project, which would require the Town Board to create a MPDD, a special zoning designation, and raised concerns over the proposed sewage system for the residential complex.

Now that the project is open for discussion, supporters will have the next month to offer their input to further refine the plan, while opponents will continue to try to convince the Town Board to deny the request for a change of zone.

For some the proposal is a home run for the hamlet, as it would bring in new business and boost property values. For others, though, the plan being pushed by R Squared LLC comes with a considerable environmental risk, citing the increased density along one of the hamlet’s main waterways, while also forcing the premature closure of two restaurants—Tide Runners and 1 North Steakhouse, both on North Road.

But for a select few, the refurbishment of the Canoe Place Inn, a 90-year-old building that was once considered for historic recognition but now lies derelict and vacant, is a sufficient trade-off for the less desirable elements of the proposal—namely, the construction of condominiums along the east side of the canal—since the status quo no longer appears to be an option.

“The Rechlers are going to build on both sides of the canal. They own property on both sides, and they have the right to build what they want,” Hampton Bays Historical and Preservation Society President Brenda Sinclair Berntson said during a recent interview.

“At least we’d get something for it,” she added, referring to the plan that calls for the renovation of the inn and its reopening as a catering facility. “They are going to build, they are going to tear down Tide Runners, so we should at least get something out of it.”

When Gregg and Mitchell Rechler, the owners of Plainview-based R Squared Development LLC, first proposed a PDD for their property in 2006, they received significant criticism from the community, in part because their plan called for the demolition of the Canoe Place Inn to make way for a 75-unit timeshare complex. After that proposal was struck down, the cousins approached members of the community to seek out more popular alternatives and potential trade-offs, said Jim Morgo, a representative for R Squared, beginning with a November 2010 meeting with various civic groups at the Hampton Bays Diner on Montauk Highway.

The result of that and subsequent meetings is the current proposal: a renovated Canoe Place Inn that features 20 rooms, a catering hall that can accommodate up to 350 people, a restaurant that can serve up to 90 people, and outdoor seating for 120 people. Also, residential development along the east side of the canal and a public boardwalk. The development would connect to a modern sewage treatment facility to protect local waterways.

Public engagement by the developers has continued in order to sell residents on the new proposal, including a billboard on Montauk Highway adjacent to the hotel property that directs people to an online petition site, www.savethecpi.com. The site directs people back to the development’s main website and provides the option for them to send a preformed email to Southampton Town Hall, expressing support for the Rechlers’ proposal. More than 180 letters have been submitted since the beginning of July supporting the project, while 23 letters were sent in opposing it, according to town officials.

Much of the opposition is related to the closure of the seasonal canal-side restaurant Tide Runners. A Facebook page, “Save Tide Runners,” was created on July 26 and has 407 “friends.” The restaurant’s owner, Chris Glynn, could not be reached for comment.

Hampton Bays Schools Superintendent Lars Clemenson threw his support behind the project both during the Tuesday’s public hearing at Town Hall and during his district’s Board of Education meeting that evening. He said the biggest selling point for him on the Rechlers’s project is that the townhouses would most likely serve as second homes, meaning that not many school-age children would be attending his district. He also cited the tax revenue that would be generated from a hotel and catering hall.

“Based on the remarks today, we’re concerned about density, we’re concerned about increases to our tax base ... ” he said. “This tax-positive impact is important to us because it makes the piece of the pie that everyone else in town has to pay just a little bit smaller.”

So far, the Rechlers also have in their corner the leaders of the Hampton Bays Chamber of Commerce, Civic Association, Historical and Preservation Society, Beautification Association and the Concerned Citizens of Hampton Bays.

“The chamber feels very strongly about it,” said Stan Glinka, the president of the chamber and a candidate for the Town Board this November. “It will have a very positive impact on the economic environment of the area here in Hampton Bays. It will add a lot more amenities to the area with the catering service and the restaurant, as well as the rooms upstairs.”

Mr. Glinka added that the townhouses would bring more patrons to local businesses during the summer months as the majority of the units are expected to be second homes, a key selling point for the Rechlers. Summer homes, they have pointed out, will not put additional pressure on the Hampton Bays School District.

Bruce King, the president of the Hampton Bays Civic Association, said he also supports the project because the townhouses will add to the hamlet’s tax base without further taxing schools. He added that the proposed sewage system is expected to cut the amount of nitrogen entering the water by as much as half.

Mr. King also said he would like to see something done with the Canoe Place Inn before “something terrible” happens to it, such it catching fire. There have been several small fires over the years at the building, which has been frequented by squatters.

“We’ve always been supportive of changing the area around the Shinnecock Canal to something more resort-oriented instead of what it is now with the one loud bar down by the water and a few other restaurants,” he said. “We think it can be more than that.”

But support for the proposal is not unanimous. Janice Landis, a member of the Hampton Bays Civic Association’s Board of Directors, said she has concerns about the density of the townhouses, adding that there are no guarantees that buyers will use them only as second or third homes. She also said she would be more comfortable if the sewage system proposed for the townhouses also would be incorporated into the renovated inn.

While she is one of only a few who are publicly speaking out against the plan, Ms. Landis said others are going along with it only out of fear of what the Rechlers could do with the properties if the MPDD is rejected. Those fears include demolishing the Canoe Place Inn and pushing ahead with plans to build residential units on the land.

“I’m the minority viewpoint, but even some of the people supporting it are doing so because they’re worried about what will happen if this doesn’t go through,” Ms. Landis said.

Former town supervisor and current supervisor candidate Linda Kabot raised several concerns during Tuesday’s hearing, including the loss of two waterfront restaurants and limiting of public access to the waterfront. The plan calls for a path along the eastern side of the canal to ensure continued public access. She also raised issues about the aesthetics of the structures, namely the proposed boathouses.

“We need to put a little bit more of that flavor into what we’re doing here,” said Ms. Kabot, who lives in Quogue.

Hampton Bays resident Larry Fasciano said he is concerned that the plan isn’t feasible as he questions how much money a catering facility such as the one proposed would actually make, adding that he thinks the inn should be leveled and the townhouses should be built in its place instead. He said that constructing townhouses on the eastern side of the canal will restrict public access to the waterfront, including the view now enjoyed by diners at Tide Runners.

“It’s a travesty because that’s a beautiful piece of property, whether Tide Runners operates it or someone else,” he said. “You can sit and have dinner and watch the boats go through the inlet—it’s just beautiful. And now you’re going to only allow the townhouse residents to enjoy that.”

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Hampton Bays resident Larry Fasciano thinks the inn should be leveled and the townhouses should be built there instead. Constructing townhouses on the eastern side of the canal will restrict public access to the waterfront, including the view now enjoyed by diners at Tide Runners.

Mr. Fasciano has the right of it -- with this proposal, the Rechlers get their townhouses, we lose the CPI eyesore, and everyone can still enjoy the waterfront and TideRunners. Why isn't this the proposal being ...more
By Tay (31), Hampton Bays on Aug 14, 13 1:16 PM
Because some loud voices in the community think that CPI is too important to be demolished...forgetting that it's original historic value is long gone.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 14, 13 3:55 PM
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How is it that everyone seems to forget that the Town of Southampton already owns a large tract park on the west side of the canal? Plenty of waterfront to enjoy, no?
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Aug 14, 13 5:33 PM
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The west side of the canal is a Suffolk County Park, not the Town of Southampton.
By terriann1 (6), Southampton on Aug 15, 13 8:54 AM
You're confused. Suffolk County Parks owns property on the East side of the canal (Meschutte beach and Shinnecock Marina). The Town of Southampton (Parks Dept.) owns a property on the West side of the canal (directly opposite CPI).
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 9:21 AM
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You're confused Nature - the town owns the property where the Rec Department sits but it does not own the road between it and the canal.
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 9:58 AM
Please bb, tell me who does own that road, if not the Town?
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 11:47 AM
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By CaptainSig (700), Dutch Harbor on Aug 16, 13 5:23 AM
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No wonder everyone is lost, no one can read the sigms . . .
By PBR (4895), Southampton on Aug 16, 13 5:44 AM
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SC Parks doesn't own the road - it's a Town road.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 16, 13 9:05 AM
Meshutte beach!!! Pronounced mish ut not miss shoot!!! /sorry, one of my pet peeves.
By sgt202 (74), Hampton Bays on Aug 17, 13 4:45 PM
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Mr. Fasciano doesn't have the right or the wrong of it. He has the absence of reality of it as Tiderunners will not survive any future redevelopment of the property.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Aug 21, 13 6:06 PM
Silly Silly PQ1 there ya go with reality again!
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 30, 13 10:08 AM
Another are where the public won't be able to sit and enjoy the waterfront dining......let's put up the condos, which will look like an eyesore., I guess the owners of the property didn't see how that side of the canal took on a lot of water during Sandy......I highly doubt these places will sell, the main reason...Insurance! Many companies are not writing policies within a mile of the water and those that are the premiums are through the roof....Get rid of CPI and put the condos there! There is ...more
By rjhdad (73), southampton on Aug 14, 13 3:37 PM
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I'm not dumb enough to think that what the Rechler's want won't happen (just look at CP's eyes light up as she looks at that pretty diorama!). But the Town Board has the ultimate say here in approving the PDD and the density is just too much, especially since the Rechler's aren't offering to purchase any credits. So where does the density come from? Thin air?

The waste from the STP will go right in the water... sure it's "treated" but show me a private STP in Suffolk County that's in ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 14, 13 3:59 PM
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ANATOMY OF THE DEVELOPER/TOWN BOARD SCAM:SCRATCH MY BACK AND I SCRATCH YOURS. THE HELL WITH WATER QUALITY AND DENSITY. IT ISN'T FLUSHING MEADOWS YET!

You're correct:The two major issues here is the horrendous density and overbuilding at Hampton Bays, as well as the insane despoilage of our waterways due to the waterfront location. Definitive studies on the causes of the water pollution of our bays and water clearly lay the blame on density and sewage from all that density. THIS DEVELOPMENT ...more
By Obbservant (443), southampton on Aug 19, 13 2:32 AM
The information on donations to candidates is available on the Board of Elections website. Go have a look.

Cheap land? Guess I missed a golden opportunity. The seller must have been unaware of the value of the property since they sold it "cheap". Why didn't someone else jump on this steal? I'd have thought the renters on the east side who knew the property was for sale and their leases may not be renewed, would have jumped on it! Cheap waterfront! WOW, now ya tell us.

You ...more
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 30, 13 10:06 AM
Curious, what sewage treatment plant do you recommend?
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 14, 13 4:18 PM
I recommend that CPI utilize a BESST or Nitrex system instead of a standard leaching field. Additionally, I recommend fewer units on the adjacent side which would reduce the size of the needed STP.

And I honestly feel bad for the residential neighbors of the "coming-soon" STP. Through no fault of their own, a residentially zoned parcel will be converted into a smelly, noisy waste treating facility. Oh joy.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 14, 13 4:28 PM
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i'd recommend no sewage at all. not raw and not treated. id recommend that area is too sensitive to generate sewage of any kind.
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“This tax-positive impact is important to us because it makes the piece of the pie that everyone else in town has to pay just a little bit smaller" -- total LIE.
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..no proposal has ever lowered taxes!
..these towns were mapped out & created to generate tax revenue so the business of government can PAY ITSELF.
more infrastructure only ...more
By david h (405), southampton on Aug 15, 13 8:07 AM
Since the Town didn't preserve the land on the east side of the canal there is no scenario where there is no sewage. There is plenty of sewage now and there is an outdated septic system.

No one said that taxes will be lowered. The Town Houses will generate MORE taxes than if they were condos.

Nature, to recap what you've said, you feel that a BESST system is better than Nitrex, but offer no reasons why nor examples where you've seen them in use.

You feel that PBCs ...more
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 8:46 AM
You're right - development has never, ever lowered taxes. Talk to the people of Sagaponack and ask if their taxes went down when Ira Rennert came to Town...
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 9:24 AM
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I didn't say BESST is better than Nitrex. I said BESST or Nitrex is better than a typical leaching field. I'll explain later, this thread isn't going anywhere...

And you again misinterpreted what I said. I did not state that PBCs "are better than any sewage treatment system". What I said was that PBC's should be required as part of the approval. Reason being, the developer would be getting development credits out of nowhere - not based on their zoning or underlying flow. If they use ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 9:27 AM
Sorry to burst your bubble but there is no way to use a Nitrex system on the Inn property, which is why it isn't in the proposal.

What is your experience with a Nitrex system? I would be interested to learn where the system is located and what your personal experience has been with it. I do know that this was the system that the Bay Keeper was advocating for. I am interested in hearing why you don't believe it is the best choice.

I am not familiar with the BEEST although I ...more
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 14, 13 4:36 PM
From SCDHS website: In studying 13 individual and 11 small community technologies systems, health officials have found that the two newly approved systems have produced excellent results; typically well below the New York State standard of 10 milligrams of nitrogen per liter of wastewater discharge. Other systems may be approved for use once the study is completed in March 2012.

Approval of these new disposal systems enhances our water quality while simultaneously promoting economic ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 12:52 PM
Is it really "Nature" or more properly "Naysayer"? You've never met a project you didn't hate. So, sir here's your chance, let your imagination go wild - what do you propose Rechsler does with its three properties involved here? Understanding that they have a significant investment involved that increases every year and we live in a free market economy, the three parcels have unique zoning applications and certain "as right" development opportunities, what do you suggest? Keep in mind that economic ...more
By VOS (1156), WHB on Aug 14, 13 4:45 PM
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I don't discount the history of the property - or even the last 100 years. But the last 20-30 the property has been treated with no respect, so why do the citizens care all of the sudden? A plaque and some interpretive signs would do just fine..

You're wrong when you say there isn't a project I don't hate. I just know that developer's ask for more than they expect to get, and the Board's usually don't realize that and give them the full request instead of coming to a reasonable solution. ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 14, 13 5:19 PM
(so, to re-iterate, I actually support their original proposal which was to demo CPI and build time-shares. But the real "naysayers" killed that, which forced the rechler's hand. I honestly don't believe the CPI will be built to the specs they are claiming... It's my belief that the condos will be constructed and CPI will be demolished and the property will sit and will be put up for sale. Hope I'm wrong, but it's too easy for the Rechler's. You build the condos, say you ran out of money and ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 14, 13 5:22 PM
The agreement is that they can not start building on the east side without first starting on the west side. I am sure that the community will complain should that not happen. Although after working on this project for years it makes no sense that they'd like to continue delaying the project and continue to tie up their money.

The Inn wasn't for sale until recently. Who said the public didn't care?

How are PBCs more beneficial to our waters?

All of your statements are ...more
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 8:41 AM
"The agreement is that they can not start building on the east side without first starting on the west side."

What agreement is that? The project has no approval... talk aabout supposition and conjecture.

I have explained reasoning for PBC's above. I never stated it would benefit our waterways, simply that they should be required to redeem them if they want this amount of density.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 9:29 AM
The proposed agreement. Happier now? If you had been involved in the process you would know that this question has been addressed repeatedly. If the PDD is passed they can not build on the east side without working on the west. That isn't supposition or conjecture. Go ask the Town Board. Although again, why would you think it would be financially smart to delay their own construction after being delayed for years?

You haven't explained your reasons for wanting the BESST system. Nor ...more
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 9:55 AM
This is not true at all: If the PDD is passed there is less density because there will not be new construction on the west side.

There absolutely is new construction on the west side - it's vacant (and derlict) right now. No one would go for a PDD if it didn't result in more units than as of right allows. Sorry that I haven't met your timeframe for explaining why I think BESST and Nitrex aren't an improvement over standard leaching fields... can I get some more time on the clock please?
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 11:51 AM
Please show us what new construction is planned with the PDD on the west side?

Sure take your time to figure out why you said what you did.
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 3:04 PM
The entire CPI proposal is "new". How can you be so right on Rumba and so wrong on this?

And I've explained the details above - the reason it took a while is because I had to pull some resources because I don't know quotes off the top of my head
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 3:46 PM
What is new? This plan has been in the work for a few years.
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 10:15 PM
The CPI is a dump and has no significance in the history of HB. The Rechlers are sophistacted investors who knew what they were getting into when they bought the property. They should only be able to build "as of right" on the land and not be permitted to co mingle the applicatioon with another detached parcel. Im sure a banquet hall will be very profitable along with a few over priced suites, and they would enjoy a nice return on the property. Has anyone asked for a spread sheet on the property? ...more
By North Sea Citizen (516), North Sea on Aug 15, 13 6:55 AM
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When did the gentleman from North Sea become an authority on the history of Hampton Bays?
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Aug 21, 13 5:53 PM
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Is that how it works the sewage treatment plant can break and the sewage is pumped into the canal? Lol....Right now Hampton Bays is at a critical crossroads for its future. Hampton Bays can ignore , and defeat thes type projects, and turn into a Mastic Beach. Or they can become an example of how to revitalize a town that was in the wrong direction.
Nature every project that ever comes up you always say that people are going to have no money to finish or they are making too much money. What ...more
By chief1 (2605), southampton on Aug 15, 13 8:49 AM
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I have extensive history and expertise in planning and development. Are you just now picking up on this?

I've said it multiple times now, I don't expect the Town to say no, but they shouldn't roll over and let the Rechler's run the show either. I'm FOR the original proposal the Rechler's wanted (knocking down CPI). I'm against 40 units per acre (with some of that land being underwater) particularly when credits aren't being utilized.

And I guess you're unaware of what happend ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 9:33 AM
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"I'm against 40 units per acre (with some of that land being underwater)"

HUH?
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 10:03 AM
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10 units/acre, sorry. The property is 4 acres and some of that "land" is underwater (marina).
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 15, 13 11:49 AM
Your an expert in development? I find that hard to believe.
By chief1 (2605), southampton on Aug 16, 13 8:28 AM
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ex·per·tise (kspûr-tz)
n.
1. Expert advice or opinion.
2. Skill or knowledge in a particular area.

(reading comprehension chief...)
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 16, 13 9:09 AM
Btw Chief - did you notice that the Watch Factory Condo project in Sag Harbor is for sale because the developer can't pay the bank? How about the condo project at the former Allen's Acres site... yea, that's coming along great! But you're right, I'm totally clueless when it comes to development and planning! I'm always wrong and you're always right....
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 16, 13 9:14 AM
I think you mixed up the West Water Street project with the Watch Factory one ("Watchcase"), which is alive and well IMO.

http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/Sag-Harbor/15360/Creators-Lift-Curtain-On-Model-Penthouse-At-Watchcase-In-Sag-Harbor
By PBR (4895), Southampton on Aug 17, 13 9:08 AM
The bankruptcy auction for "21 West Water" is next Tuesday August 20th.
By PBR (4895), Southampton on Aug 17, 13 9:24 AM
Yeah you are wrong the watchtower isn't going broke. You should check your fax allegedly they've already sold many units in there. The Allens Acres being torn down was a gift whether they rebuild condos there or not. There have been tens of thousands of projects on Long Island that are very successful. I'm sure the Rechlers know a little bit more about developing theyou a self proclaimed expert.
By chief1 (2605), southampton on Aug 17, 13 12:01 PM
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PBR is right - 21 West Water, sorry for the mixup, but my point still stands. There are plenty of examples of projects that looked great on paper and didn't end up the way they're supposed to. Is it good Allen's Acres is gone? Yup, but what's there is now is only marginally better.

Not a "self-proclaimed" expert, and never said the Rechler's don't know what they're doing. It's specifically because they know what they're doing that I'm worried about this project.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 17, 13 12:18 PM
If you know the history of West water you would know that the developer put in luxury condos in place of a problem night club. Sure the project went bankrupt but that's because the developer sucked all the money out of it. The project will now be sold, people will move in and it will be a great success. Nature please tell us how many projects you have done that would make you an expert.
By chief1 (2605), southampton on Aug 17, 13 1:45 PM
100% success rate chiefy boy!
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 18, 13 10:19 AM
It's such a sin to privatize the canal - I think the condo idea is even worse than losing CPI. They are using CPI as a bargaining chip to develop an area that should have been preserved long ago. A few years down the road, they will find a way out of CPI and will have won it all. Hampton Bays will never be the same, just sell the summer house now.
By terriann1 (6), Southampton on Aug 15, 13 8:51 AM
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CONDOs .. has anyone been to Sea Lisle City NJ or Myrtle BEach SC ??

.. that's where this endless "condos for tax cash" game is headed
By david h (405), southampton on Aug 15, 13 9:23 AM
CONDOs .. has anyone been to Sea Lisle City NJ or Myrtle BEach SC ??

.. that's where this endless "condos for tax cash" game is headed
By david h (405), southampton on Aug 15, 13 9:23 AM
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By chief1 (2605), southampton on Aug 15, 13 1:32 PM
Though I don't live in Hampton Bays, I would much rather see Tide Runners survive than CPI. It's a great place to sit with a drink and a plate of seafood watching the boats go by, and I hate to see a live music venue dissappear.
By BigBlue (12), Water Mill on Aug 15, 13 11:17 AM
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oh man chief1 were your ripping me to shreads ??
By david h (405), southampton on Aug 15, 13 1:56 PM
"""“The Rechlers are going to build on both sides of the canal. They own property on both sides, and they have the right to build what they want,” Hampton Bays Historical and Preservation Society President Brenda Sinclair Berntson said during a recent interview."""

Really? They have the right to build whatever they want? Can I have the right to build whatever I want? Can I put a swimming pool in my front yard and three or four sheds on my property and a poolhouse and a guesthouse ...more
By btdt (432), water mill on Aug 16, 13 12:16 PM
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I believe the point was that the current zoning allows any property owner to build whatever is allowed in the Code ("as of right"), and that therefore the literal reading of "anything they want" is misplaced. The comment must be read in context.

When a property owner comes to the Town Board to request approval of plans that don't fit neatly within the Zoning Code's "cookie cutter" pigeon-holes, it often benefits both the owner and the Town.
By PBR (4895), Southampton on Aug 17, 13 3:07 PM
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no, But you should have the right to do those things
By 27dan (2598), Southampton on Aug 18, 13 8:20 PM
There is nothing to preserve at CPI,We are to get 40 condos in exchange for a fake facade on a catering hall, Why not preserve athe East side of canal,and develop the CPI site.is it too late to prtessure the Town Board.
By Etians rd (509), Southampton on Aug 19, 13 6:32 PM
To answer your question easily, just look at each Town Board member's public disclosure of campaign contributors and you will have your answer. Alternatively, talk to a partner you know well at a Southampton law firm specializing on circumventing zoning law.

As they say, don't follow the law, follow the money and that explains all.
By Obbservant (443), southampton on Aug 19, 13 8:13 PM
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"We are to get 40 condos in exchange for a fake facade on a catering hall"

Could you show me where you read in the MPDD that this is what is planned?

By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 27, 13 9:07 AM
Obbservant, why don't you just tell us what you see in public disclosure that you are basing your opinion on?

Who is not following the law?
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 23, 13 7:50 PM
We all know who, don't we?
By Obbservant (443), southampton on Aug 24, 13 7:47 AM
No that is why I asked.
By bb (852), Hampton Bays on Aug 25, 13 5:34 PM