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Aug 18, 2012 9:57 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

UPDATE: Description Released Of Man Who Fled Hampton Bays Double Stabbing

Aug 22, 2012 11:06 AM

Southampton Town Police on Wednesday released the description of a man who fled the scene of a double stabbing that occurred at a Hampton Bays bar early Saturday morning.

Two patrons of the Beach Bar on Foster Avenue were stabbed with “some type of knife or blade” during an altercation involving several patrons that started inside the bar and continued outside after the brawlers were escorted out by bar security staff, Detective Sergeant Lisa Costa said.

Officers were called to the scene at 2:21 a.m., where they found two men in their 30s, both from the Mastic-Shirley area, suffering from non-life-threatening stab and slash wounds to their arms and heads.

Police said between five and seven people fled the scene after the incident and, on Wednesday morning, they described one as a dark-haired Hispanic man, about 30 years of age. They said he was 5 feet 8 inches tall, weighed about 240 pounds, and noted that he wearing an orange or reddish shirt and a silver-colored cross hanging on a cable containing clear studs around his neck.

The Hampton Bays Volunteer Ambulance treated the stabbing victims at the scene before transporting them to Southampton Hospital. One was released the same day and the other was listed as stable, but required surgery.

Police said it is unclear what started the fight.

New York State Police and the Riverhead Town Police K-9 unit assisted in a search for the suspects on Saturday, but to no avail.

Town Police have asked anyone with information to call 702-2240.

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Are the suspects Mormons? Perhaps a physical description of the perps would help in their apprehension.
By highhatsize (3966), East Quogue on Aug 18, 12 11:12 AM
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Where'd the comments for the pervert child molester go
By Lets go mets (343), Southampton on Aug 21, 12 10:13 PM
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Apparently one goes to a bar in hampton bays armed with a deadly weapon? What kind of person does that?
By Brian Bailey (36), Southampton on Aug 18, 12 11:51 AM
Um, someone tempted to go to a bar in Hampton Bays?

Or aren't you up on your recent history of the hamlet?

In fairness, you're making an assumption that what you're terming "a deadly weapon" was in this instance, a knife or a bayonet -- could just as easily have been a Bic pen or a broken bottle.
By Frank Wheeler (1810), Northampton on Aug 18, 12 1:35 PM
Why would you even attempt to talk about fairness when you make such an asinine generalization about Hampton Bays? Let me rephrase BB's question: Why must these few boneheads be such fools that they think it's acceptable to stab someone, with whatever object, because they're trying to impress people or themselves? I hope the sentencing judge takes into account how many innocent people just out for a night of fun, possibly including these two victims, were endangered by these punks.
By VOS (1175), WHB on Aug 18, 12 2:05 PM
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Again, "assuming facts not in evidence," VOS:

> "innocent people just out for a night of fun"

Nothing like this is even remotely suggested by the most recent update (10:11 AM).

In respect to making "an asinine generalization about Hampton Bays," perhaps you don't remember:

1.- Carl Petrusa, shot to death outside a club in HAMPTON BAYS less than two years ago;

2.- the 2009 stabbing death of Calvin Butts outside the HAMPTON BAYS Diner;

3.- another ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1810), Northampton on Aug 18, 12 3:15 PM
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I knew someone was gonna point out that the weapon(s) in question were not reported, and that it could have been procured on site, but I think it's a fair assumption to make that someone involved in a stabbing probably tends to be armed. In any case my more central point I was expressing was disgust with the violent machismo.
By Brian Bailey (36), Southampton on Aug 18, 12 3:49 PM
Memorizing history is one thing.

Understanding the wisdom due to it's (history's) record of daily life?

You wanna hear somethin' kinda' odd? But, sort of funny?

Sometime, somewhere there was a schmuck just like you. And, You need to subtract roughly 20 sextillion dollars to get back to exchanging peanuts using our tongues whilst avoiding predator cats.

Weapons in a place of relaxation.

How primitive.
By Mr. Z (11145), North Sea on Aug 18, 12 5:28 PM
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Over 3500 Comments...really!!! Get a life!
By springsmom (29), East Hampton on Aug 18, 12 11:38 PM
I don't need an update to know that thousands of people are out every week in Hampton Bays just looking to have fun. If a couple of idiots from out of town show up and tussle with a couple of other idiots from out of town and somebody gets hurt why is that a reflection on Hampton Bays? Weren't most of the identified players in the instances you mentioned from areas closer to Northampton than Hampton Bays? Odd that you want to throw stones in ignorance when your glass house already has so many ...more
By VOS (1175), WHB on Aug 19, 12 12:18 AM
@ springsmom:

I've been a member for over three years. You've been here what, nine months? When I'm refurbishing an old computer (which can take a GOOD bit of time), or working for Google, I get a little bored now and then. Pardon me for having a love of healthy debate, writing, and a disdain for ignorance.
By Mr. Z (11145), North Sea on Aug 19, 12 5:27 AM
Thanks Mr. Z. LOL!!!
By springsmom (29), East Hampton on Aug 19, 12 8:17 AM
Carrying a knife with a blade under 4" is perfectly legal and doesn't necessarily mean the person doing so is dangerous or a threat. I can tell you I can't remember the last time I was in a bar without a LEGAL knife, maybe not ever! I have also never been in a bar fight, while I have diffused quite a few, usually with logic and reason rather than force. It is not the knife or the carrying of it that presents the problem, it's the attitude as you mentioned (violent machismo) that is the problem. ...more
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Aug 19, 12 1:14 PM
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Mr Z., IMO, is one of the best posters on this site. Take it easy, maybe you just might learn something.
By dnice (2343), Hampton Bays on Aug 19, 12 1:51 PM
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@ ICE, I agree carrying a knife is not necessarily a bad thing in and of itself. Knives are useful tools and I certainly don't begrudge people the right to protect themselves either. However if it IS for self-protection, in my opinion, training in hand to hand combat is much safer and more effective than relying on a blade. Similar to the dangers of owning a gun, the odds are that you will end up getting sliced yourself.
By Brian Bailey (36), Southampton on Aug 19, 12 3:32 PM
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You nailed it, "Knives are useful tools". That is the primary use, I have never cut anyone but myself on accident of course. Not a day goes by where I don't use it multiple times for a wide variety of tasks. As for self defense, I agree hand to hand combat/Martial Arts are a much more effective means of self defense, which can't be dropped or taken away and used against you. In any Marital Arts discipline they always teach you to use your mind first to try and avert any physical confrontation. I ...more
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Aug 19, 12 4:59 PM
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We can also add to hamptons happenings:
the box cutter bar brawl at 75 main
the Featherstones glass throwing comedy night
the cigar bar mega brawl
the flying point stabbing
UConn's Kendall Madison killed at an East Hampton night spot
the westhampton steakhouse supposed slashing & gunshot
bowling alley throw downs, crowd control at the polish hall,
numerous CPI bottle bashings...
so on and so forth.
this has been going on since before the old Marakesh shane ...more
By year round (22), southampton on Aug 20, 12 2:38 PM
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Thanks dnice!

Compliment noted, and duly appreciated!!
By Mr. Z (11145), North Sea on Aug 20, 12 4:37 PM
Times r a changing out east for sure
By BlackDog (47), Boca Raton on Aug 18, 12 2:29 PM
not really
By dnice (2343), Hampton Bays on Aug 19, 12 5:20 PM
Lowlifes !!!!!!

By TO BAD (24), hampton bay on Aug 18, 12 3:09 PM
thats how they roll in Compton Bayzz, Bitchezz!!
By C Law (339), Water Mill on Aug 18, 12 4:46 PM
Did you flash a gang sign while you keyed those strokes?
By Mr. Z (11145), North Sea on Aug 18, 12 5:14 PM
No, I was too busy 'C' walking
By C Law (339), Water Mill on Aug 18, 12 7:55 PM
It is Harlem Bayz, get it right would ya.
By dnice (2343), Hampton Bays on Aug 19, 12 1:02 PM
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Way back when the old-timers in Southampton used to call Hampton Bays "Sin City" also Black people were not allowed in Hampton Bays at night.Except for a Black family who had a Father in the Coast Guard.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Aug 18, 12 7:42 PM
This is a non story-bar fights have been going on everywhere and forever. The weapon could have been a broken beer bottle.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Aug 18, 12 8:29 PM
A non story? These so called night clubs do nothing for the towns economy. Just a bunch of kids from other towns with no money causing trouble. Hampton Bays will never change unto people put their foot down.
By chief1 (2665), southampton on Aug 19, 12 12:37 AM
Hair gel - check.
Nice shirt - check.
Wallet - check.
Cell phone - check.
Knife - check.

Ok - ready for a night out.

What's the appropriate weapon for dinner at Starr Boggs? I don't want to be outgunned.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Aug 19, 12 10:20 AM
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Is this the first incident in the old "OTI"? Seemed like a nice place. Funny that there were no witnesses, and such a lack of information on the bad guys. Maybe there will be an up date....
By Tommy Turbo (51), Deep River, CT on Aug 19, 12 12:41 PM
I believe it was last summer or the Summer before that a young man by the name of Mitchell was run down in the parking lot by a crazed driver that was charging back and forth across the lot trying to run others over.
By year round (22), southampton on Aug 20, 12 2:25 PM
Double the standard, everyone in starr boggs carrys a weapon. The sticks up there you know whats hahaha
By GoldenBoy (339), EastEnd on Aug 19, 12 12:48 PM
Too funny, Goldenboy.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Aug 19, 12 2:47 PM
A shanking at Shuckers? Most likely a razor clam as the weapon.
By G (325), Southampton on Aug 19, 12 1:15 PM
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I live in Hampton bays, the people who live here are hard working people, we're not rich, but geographically, we are living in an ideal location, the bars do breed trouble, as they would in any town.What this town needs is an ice rink or go-cart racing or any other non alcoholic businesses to draw in people. We don't need to attract any more drunken knife wielding thugs.
By randommom (4), hampton bays on Aug 20, 12 10:09 AM
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AGREED!
By lmahanna (15), Hampton Bays on Aug 20, 12 10:46 AM
> "What this town needs is an ice rink or go-cart racing"

Well, you had a nice roller-skating rink AND a Go-Kart track back in the 70s and 80s, and they weren't pushed out by bars. Did you support them then? My parents did, taking me to the Go-Karts one summer.

Oh, and I see this story hasn't been updated with additional information, so what news do you have that "drunken knife wielding thugs" were involved?
By Frank Wheeler (1810), Northampton on Aug 20, 12 11:22 AM
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I remember the Go-Karts in Hampton Bays, it was a fun track! I don't know if it was a lack of patronage or an inflation of their insurance premiums that caused it's demise. It was somewhat hidden, which may have made it difficult to locate for some. If you could refrain from commenting on anything outside of Northampton I think randommom would appreciate it.
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Aug 20, 12 5:05 PM
You're right Frank, these were probably nice tea drinking people who just happened to fall onto someone with a sharp object. Good point your making... I think, what is your point? You live in Northampton.
By randommom (4), hampton bays on Aug 20, 12 11:40 AM
Yes, I live in Northampton, dear "randommom" (I hope that's not as haphazard as it sounds), which is not only a part of Southampton Town (as is Hampton Bays), but is in proximity to Flanders and Riverside where a sometimes disproportionate number of bad things have occurred -- and we don't have anywhere near the number of retail liquor licenses as you do.

So instead of getting defensive about Hampton Bays and lashing out with a "so's your old man" reply, try sticking to what's happening ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1810), Northampton on Aug 21, 12 12:40 PM
What Hampton Bays needs is authorities that enforce the rules-no more overcrowding, no more underage drinking, close establishments that have a history of trouble, etc, etc. The police, the politicans look the other way and do nothing. Enforcing existing rules would stop a lot of trouble before it happens. Until then Hampton Bays will not get cleaned up.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Aug 20, 12 8:34 PM
Where's Thiele? Will he start crusading to shut this club down too? C'mon Freddy, show us a sign!
By G (325), Southampton on Aug 21, 12 7:37 AM
" they described one as a dark-haired Hispanic man, about 30 years of age. They said he was 5 feet 8 inches tall, weighed about 240 pounds" If he is documented he should be asy to find
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Aug 22, 12 3:31 PM
golden boy since their heads are taking up so much room how is there room left?
By xtiego (694), bridgehampton on Aug 22, 12 4:16 PM
Just another job Americans don't wanna do, stabbing people at bars.....
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Aug 22, 12 6:11 PM
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Word has it that the root of the dispute involved adultery.

Doesn't excuse the violence, or the choice of venue; but I understand...
By Mr. Z (11145), North Sea on Aug 22, 12 7:46 PM
Eyewitness told me he was NOT hispanic ( although he did look similar). He was an african american, as was all involved in the fighting were, from up island. They were all wearing the same necklaces and the weapon used was a box cutter.
By youknowwho (3), East End on Aug 23, 12 11:06 AM
Also, he was wearing a red shirt, was at least 5 foot 10 inches and in his mid to late 20's.
By youknowwho (3), East End on Aug 23, 12 11:07 AM
Labor day weekend features the Upside Down parties.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Aug 26, 12 6:21 AM
Nothing good happens after 2 am
By 1bigfish (18), Hampton Bays on Aug 27, 12 10:05 PM
Future Stars, Summer Camps,