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Apr 4, 2017 9:19 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

UPDATE: Hampton Bays Taxpayers Reject $9.9 Million Library Referendum

The Hampton Bays Library referendum vote will be held on Tuesday. DANA SHAW
Apr 5, 2017 9:35 AM

UPDATE: 9:40 P.M. TUESDAY

For the second time in 10 months, Hampton Bays taxpayers have rejected a multimillion-dollar plan that would have financed the complete overhaul of their Ponquogue Avenue library.

The latest proposal, a $9.9 million bond referendum, failed 571-336 on Tuesday, according to library officials. If approved, the bond would have paid for the gutting and renovation of the current single-story facility as well as the acquisition of a neighboring lot for additional parking.

Both Susan LaVista, the library’s director, and David Zimmerman, president of the library’s Board of Trustees, described Tuesday’s results as “disappointing.” Mr. Zimmerman also said he and his fellow board members will discuss their options moving forward at a future meeting.

Taxpayers rejected a previous and more expensive $15.8 million bond referendum that, if approved, would have financed the demolition of the current library and the construction of a new two-story building in its place. That measure failed 719-507 in a vote held on June 14, 2016.

ORIGINAL STORY

Hampton Bays taxpayers will be voting today, Tuesday, April 4, on a $9.9 million bond referendum that, if approved, would finance the complete gutting and renovation of the hamlet’s library.

The polls will be open from 10 a.m. until 9 p.m. today in the main program room of the Hampton Bays Public Library, located on Ponquogue Avenue. Only registered library district taxpayers can cast ballots.

Library Director Susan LaVista said she hopes to see a big turnout from taxpayers in the district.

“I encourage everyone to come out and vote,” Ms. LaVista said. “We’ve done our best to get the word out to as many people as possible.”

Library Board President David Zimmerman could not be immediately reached for comment.

The proposed work calls for creating a completely new floor plan for the 20,000-square-foot single-story library, as well as replacing its roof, adding insulation throughout the building, and installing an energy-efficient heating and cooling system. The bond would also fund the creation of a new floor plan, and calls for the finishing of basement space so it can house some library operations.

Included in the projected costs is the proposed purchase of an adjoining half-acre lot at 3 Argonne Road for $390,000, and using the land to provide a few dozen additional parking spaces for patrons.

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VOTE NO!
By Bond007 (16), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 9:35 AM
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VOTE YES!
By johnj (774), Westhampton on Apr 4, 17 9:39 AM
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VOTE YES!
By johnj (774), Westhampton on Apr 4, 17 9:50 AM
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VOTE NO - it is easy for you, johnj to say vote yes - it is not your taxes. This is a ridiculously overpriced project for a middle class community that cannot afford one more dime of taxes. I hope everyone comes out to vote NO.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 10:10 AM
I wonder what you feel is more important than a Library? A couple of days out fishing on a party boat? Out to dinner once or twice a week? Buying a few lottery tickets? Stopping off someplace to shoot the breeze with friends and a beer or two as well? And how much would the proposed library affect your taxes?
By summertimegal (70), southampton on Apr 12, 17 10:06 AM
First of all, old news - the referendum failed. Second, the total cost is $10 million for the renovations and almost $20 million in debt service (a reported $647,000 x 30 years). The training I obtained from spending many many hours in libraries and educational institutions taught me to analyze projects on a cost versus benefit/want versus needs basis. It seems that some people,maybe like yourself, make knee jerk decisions on major capital projects and should be spending more time in libraries ...more
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 12, 17 7:00 PM
Taxes paid to the Library for the next thirty (30) years will be higher than our Volunteer Firemen and Brave Police if this vote passes. It would be a shame if Hampton Bays residents agree to support this outrageous amount of money (9.9 million) that will have nothing to show for it other than 34 more parking spots. That's over $290,000 per parking spot.

Its a no-brainer. And the entire Library Board as well as the Director should resign effective immediately for being so callous and ...more
By NO_to_library (2), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 10:23 AM
Taxes paid to the Library for the next thirty (30) years will be higher than our Volunteer Firemen and Brave Police if this vote passes. It would be a shame if Hampton Bays residents agree to support this outrageous amount of money (9.9 million) that will have nothing to show for it other than 34 more parking spots. That's over $290,000 per parking spot.

Its a no-brainer. And the entire Library Board as well as the Director should resign effective immediately for being so callous and ...more
By NO_to_library (2), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 10:23 AM
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My vote is NO.if La Vista wanted a big turn out the vote would be scheduled for later in year when the Florida people returned.....again remind your friends to vote a big no.
By watchdog1 (452), Southampton on Apr 4, 17 11:10 AM
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I noticed they used paper ballots instead of machines. I read the paper ballot carefully. Evidentially, any marks, writings or comments made on the ballot (or articles attached to the ballot), would render the ballot, null and void. So I just make a big circle around the word NO.
By sharkbait (32), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 12:41 PM
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NO!!!
By BarryMcConnell (14), Hampton Bays, New York on Apr 4, 17 3:14 PM
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Voted No.
By dnice (2302), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 3:42 PM
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Voted No.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Apr 4, 17 3:57 PM
1.4 million dollar custom heat and ac, 20,000 sq ft building, equals $70 a sq ft. Average 2000 sq ft home x $70 per sq ft to replace heat and ac $140,00 !!!!! does the board look at anything NO
By tinboat (8), hampton bays on Apr 4, 17 4:37 PM
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I feel great just voted NO met two others when I went for a beer after doing my civic duty they also voted NO
By watchdog1 (452), Southampton on Apr 4, 17 4:39 PM
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Ah yes that beer was important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And how many more than one did you all have?
By summertimegal (70), southampton on Apr 12, 17 10:08 AM
Summertimegal, you seem a little bitter about the results of the referendum. However, it seems to me that Watchdog1 and buddies can have as many beers as they want (and not drive) - they are not asking the taxpayers of HB to pay for them.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 12, 17 8:52 PM
At the last vote, there were 500 that voted yes and 700 that voted no. Ms. LaVista said she got the word out - I think those that were against it got the word out. Hopefully, this will be voted down by a large margin and send a clear message to the Board. Seriously, not sure what they were thinking. I would be very suspicious if this passes.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 4:53 PM
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We sent in Six absentee "no" ballots from sunny Florida. Cheers
By Ernie (76), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 5:11 PM
Hopefully they will be counted. If they were from the past vote, they may be counted.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 5:46 PM
important omission - may NOT be counted....
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 6:13 PM
Voted YES. HB needs more than a couple buildings that don't look like they'll fall down or look like they have been neglected by their local owners for generations.
By G (323), Southampton on Apr 4, 17 5:23 PM
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Does the library look like it's falling down or has been neglected for generations?
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Apr 4, 17 9:10 PM
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I was just going to ask the same thing.

No one disagrees that there should be improvements to HB. The library needing a new roof, maybe, and heating, they think, and insulation...why wasn't there insulation 15 years ago? All this to the tune of 9.9 MILLION dollars? is going to do what for the rest of the town?



Your logic fails me.
By bb (773), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 10:30 PM
What are u babbling about G.
By watchdog1 (452), Southampton on Apr 4, 17 5:31 PM
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couldn't have said it better myself. So G's logic is to take money away from people who can't afford to fix up their homes and use to fix a library clearly not an economics major.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 5:43 PM
Ms. LaVista said. “We’ve done our best to get the word out to as many people as possible.” If this statement were true, they would have sent information to the tax payers using the SAME ADDRESSES that the Southampton Tax Assessor's office uses. Since I'm a Southampton town tax payer, I should have received something from this library, but did not. The fact is they didn't do their best. They did the minimum and sent emails to their list of library patrons. That's pathetic considering ...more
By sharkbait (32), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 5:54 PM
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Hey G: HAVE YOU SEEN OUR TWO FIREHOUSES, three beautiful schools, Ponquogue bridge and beach, gorgeous King Kullen center, Scottos, La Parmigian Restaurant, Edgewater Reataurant, Buckleys Bar, Oaklands and Sundays Restaurant, our outstanding Main Sreet and new beautiful Good Ground Park and last but not least our great 7-11, etc. etc. etc. G do you live in Hampton Bays? Open your eyes and think, PS Our current library is also a beautiful building thanks to the generous taxpayers and donors of Hampton ...more
By P. Revere (81), hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 6:00 PM
Voted NO. Also today I made many phone calls reminding all my relatives, friends and associates to vote no, They all said they would do so. I am pround to say I got out about 20 no votes. They also networked to get out the NO vote. If we lose this vote something is corrupt. I will never accept an approval of this outrageous, no bid, waste of TAXPAYER dollars.
By P. Revere (81), hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 6:11 PM
Did the same P.l Revere. All of my friends thought it was ridiculous. If this passes, I will be very suspicious. Let's see what happens tomorrow.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 6:19 PM
Open your eyes HB. Take a drive down Mtk Hwy/Main Street. CPI & the falling down residences around it, Skidmores looks like it hasn't seen basic care in 50 years as do the locally owned insurance Co buildings and the hardware store. Most of the shops & businesses that have been kept up are run by Latinos - which you all hate in HB. As for the firehouses, they are an abomination on main st & look like crap. East Patchogue looks better/cleaner & that's not saying much. Go to the other end of town ...more
By G (323), Southampton on Apr 4, 17 6:14 PM
So G - your theory is if you burden the commercial property owners with more taxes that will provide incentive for them to invest in the community "You is a Genius". I guess that is what the "G" stands for. What Ivy League grad school did you go to - please let us know so we can make sure our children don't go there..
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 8:07 PM
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So let me understand, spending 9.9 million dollars on the library is going to fix that? Could you explain your theory?
By bb (773), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 10:34 PM
The Canoe Place Inn is undergoing renovation and the Diner is caught up in some legal nonsense. Both temporary situations. The hardware store is a great example of mid-century modern design. Who says we "all hate" Latinos? Since when is a tidy brick firehouse on an American Main St. an "abomination?" Never been to East Patchogue, and the point of your comparison would be what? If there is a vacant store in a retail center that is normal for such a complex's business cycle. So?
My eyes are open ...more
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Apr 5, 17 9:43 AM
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Dump sandpebble builders
By tinboat (8), hampton bays on Apr 4, 17 9:51 PM
Now that this referendum has filed for the 2nd time, Hampton Bays community members should demand the resignation of all Library Board members and Mrs. Susan LaVista effective immediately. If these people were running a company, their shareholders would sue them for incompetence. The nerve of them to expect Hampton Bays residents to not understand tax ramifications. They must go! They should not be given a third time to understand the needs of this community. Where is the Southampton CAC? ...more
By Michelle31 (1), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 10:10 PM
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Perhaps if the Hampton Bays taxpayers were allowed to vote for the library trustees as they do for school and fire boards--taxation with representation--these bond referendums would go more smoothly.

The Hampton Bays Public Library is an association library that still maintains a self-appointed, unelected trustee board, like the Westhampton Free Library. Only 6 of 19 Suffolk County association libraries still cling to this governing structure though it’s undemocratic and un-American ...more
By st (96), westhampton beach on Apr 4, 17 10:15 PM
Michelle31, the directors are volunteers. I don't see a lot of people stepping up. Hopefully, some people will do so now and make it public. I think a lot of people would support getting an elected Board. Ms. LaVista is another story. She is a paid employee. She needs to get in line with what the taxpayers want or move on. Hopefully, they have not entered into any agreements that are going to cost the taxpayers money.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 10:42 PM
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Just for information: the way it works at the Westhampton association library, and I believe it's the same at your library, is the Library Director has a contract and is hired and fired by the self-appointed board of trustees. If the director wishes to keep her job it's in her best interest to do what the board wants, not what the majority of taxpayers may want.

No trustee elections=taxation without representation=no accountability.

Someone commented that the board should resign. ...more
By st (96), westhampton beach on Apr 5, 17 7:13 AM
YouTube "What To Expect From Libraries in the 21st Centrury" and thank me later. It's never about the money. It's about mindset.
By AndyT (1), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 17 11:31 PM
watched it - very sweet - but nowhere does the presenter say "let's waster $20 million on unnecessary renovations" - ya' see I spent a LOT of time at libraries growing up and I actually learned the value of money and how to spend it wisely. Maybe some of you should spend some time there learning economics 101.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 17 12:04 AM
Now that the voters have spoken,for a second time,it is quiet clear the board of directors are out of touch with the needs of the community.I would suggest that the property adjacent to the parking lot be purchased the house be modified and all other remodeling of the main library building be put on hold until a new board of directors are in place...we need an elected board responsive and accountable to the tax payers.Sorry to say the present board are not up to the task.
By watchdog1 (452), Southampton on Apr 5, 17 3:33 AM
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No on the bond!
By Moral Dolphin (13), Southampton on Apr 5, 17 10:58 AM
Happy to see that the bond did not pass. Nearly $10M seems like an awful a lot of money for what I see as a facility that I think will become obsolete. I know I will get criticism, but what happened to Blockbuster? People no longer go out to rent movies; people access them digitally. Books, magazine, documents, etc. are all accessible online. A bond that will affect taxpayers for 30yrs, when user-ship is likely to drop in coming years, seems out of touch with the tax-payers and residents of Hampton ...more
By WetSand09 (3), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 17 12:45 PM
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By SlimeAlive (784), Southampton on Apr 5, 17 1:25 PM
It seems to me that the Library Board as well as some of the residents attempted to get this passed to create a free after school center funded by taxpayers. They have now labeled themselves as incompetent and dishonest and they have to live with the consequences of their actions. I believe that they hoped the taxpayers would not notice or were idiots. We are neither and there are more of us out there then these Board members and residents think. This fight is not over.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 17 1:43 PM
The schools have all day pre-k now so the taxpayers can pay for daycare too.
By SlimeAlive (784), Southampton on Apr 5, 17 1:46 PM
What these socialists don't realize it that 80% of the property owners in HB don't have children in the school district and have one foot out of HB because of the taxes leaving behind those that can least afford the taxes. They think they are so smart and compassionate instead they are inept and harmful like a cancer in our community. Time for those that understand economics, taxes and reality to step up.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 17 3:05 PM
Actually, this would be a pretty good idea. Would probably be a substantial, long term, benefit to a public after school program for elementary - high school aged kids.
- Would be a big burden off of working parents
- Could be a place where positive role models lead
- Could be a place for young people to continue actively engaging in activities outside of the classroom (other than sports/drugs/ipones)

Trying to get something this passed in a library budget is not the best ...more
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (478), southampton on Apr 5, 17 3:26 PM
Actually I agree - if there is a need for after school programs, that stop the lying and pretending that HB needs a library.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 17 3:50 PM
The schools do not have all day pre-K. There are 2 classrooms of two half-day sessions each. The costs associated with the program are paid for by the county and a NYS-grant expressly for the purpose of pre-k. The classes are not day-care, they are academic and developmentally-appropriate for social and emotional development. The curriculum is aligned to research on child and brain development. It is not daycare or play-time, and there are no naps.
By hblc (28), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 17 4:01 PM
and you don't need new bricks and mortar to have after school programs programs. There are plenty of those in HB - starting with the "state of the art schools the taxpayers are baying for. There are also plenty of not-for-profits that run after school programs - you don't need to keeping trying to get blood from a stone from the middle class folks in HB. How about the fabulous new community center at St. Rosalie's? I am sure Fr. Sheridan and the Catholic Church wouldn't deny those in need.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 17 4:02 PM
should have proofed before hitting submit.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 17 4:19 PM
Thank you for the clarification of the Pre-K program.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 17 4:26 PM
The current Board of Directors cannot manage the simple maintenance of a small town library and for a second time, have put all their eggs in one basket, putting another wasteful plan to a vote and hoping for a different outcome. This would be a good time for the Board to re-examine the purpose and role of a board member and ask themselves whether or not they have the skills to undertake these kinds of decisions. Only a fool would enter into an agreement with a contractor before having the legal ...more
By sharkbait (32), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 17 1:34 PM
Way too many employees at the HB library. Reports indicate 50 plus. LaVista will not tell the exact number. Staff at the library should not exceed 10. I have seen as many as 4 woman at the check out desk. At night 2 at the computer room desk. Joe is listening to the Yankee game and the girl talking on the phone to a friend. A fat security guard who can hardly walk. If there's a problem call the town police. Usually there is an officer less than a mile away at the firehouse.
By P. Revere (81), hampton Bays on Apr 5, 17 6:56 PM
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I thought the security guard was gone....so the leadership that thinks they are capable of running an after school center needs to do so with the help of a security guard hired because the kids were acting up (as per the minutes of the Board meeting)...this just keeps getting better...I think we all need to go to the next Library Board meeting...posting is here is fun and entertaining, but it is really not going to get us anywhere. We need a real solution to repairs needed at the library.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 17 7:58 AM
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Look at the salary budget for the year vs spending on library materials, maintenance and programs.
By HBayslocal (1), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 17 10:21 AM
..and it just keeps getting better....I wonder how much they spent on the two referendums..from what I know the Board of Election folks don't work for free.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 17 10:29 AM
The Library website now reports that the Board is going to pursue purchasing the building anyway.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 17 11:32 AM
I voted no but do hope they pursue purchasing the building anyway. Adjoining property might really be needed in the future and unavailable or available at exorbitant price. However, I will go nuts if the building is used for administration. Admin should be on premises and highly visible.
By baywoman (161), southampton on Apr 6, 17 1:56 PM
Pretty awesome. This article is now on both the Most Read and Most Commented lists on 27east.com. Two bond referendums fail in 10 months. Self-appointed, unelected library trustees are out of touch with the taxpayers. No more taxation without representation. NYS legislators need to step in and put an end to self-appointments at taxpayer funded association libraries.
By st (96), westhampton beach on Apr 6, 17 2:29 PM
agreed. We put this madness to bed for now, but the fight cannot be over. It is an undemocratic process. However, we still need individuals to step up and volunteer. The results may be the same whether appointed or elected.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 17 3:17 PM
Twice the taxpayers have spoken with landslide rejections of the library boondoggle waste of taxpayer dollars. Within 24 hours of a humiliating defeat, the library website posts that they will continue to disrespect the Hampton Bays taxpayers by pursuing the purchase of the adjacent property. LaVista, Zimmerman, its not about what you want, its about what the taxpayers want. You work for us. You are arrogant and disgraceful. Both of you should resign your positions in disgrace. You have harassed ...more
By P. Revere (81), hampton Bays on Apr 6, 17 6:38 PM
Can we request the board to change their bylaws to allow board elections and request that they add this topic to their next meeting agenda? Can we attend the board meetings?
By sharkbait (32), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 17 7:22 PM
The Board meetings should be open to the public. As "st", has been posting, the elected board versus the appointed point needs to be addressed. Maybe we need to start a petition. Any thoughts?
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 17 7:57 PM
I think this Board has left us no choice but to report them to the NYS Comptroller's Office, Division of Investigation where you can report alleged fraud, corruption, mismanagement or waste. The complaint form is on-line.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 17 8:10 PM
Very true, HBProud. An elected board doesn’t necessarily make anything better. But, in my opinion, America is founded on taxation with representation. We are a democracy. I am proud to be an American and I celebrate our freedoms and our rights. Men and women have died for us, defending our democracy.

Also, the same could be said for school, Village, fire boards. Why have elections? I believe they keep people accountable, and a vote gives a person a say.

Without ...more
By st (96), westhampton beach on Apr 6, 17 8:49 PM
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st - thank you for all this information. It is very helpful. I believe there are some people that want to wear us down, but we can't let them. Fairness must prevail.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 7, 17 1:05 AM
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Thank you for information. I wish I could share this with the Hampton Bays community board. May I?
By T818 (10), Hampton Bays on Apr 12, 17 1:28 PM
Yes, please do. Also, for more information, please read my other 27east comments by clicking on the number next to "st". I give a lot of researched information and opinion, too, of course. We also have information on our www.wflelectedboard.org website. Check out posts under the News tab.

Unfortunately, what happened here with the cause/call to action is the Westhampton Library's self-appointed board refused to address the issue for many months, when many people emailed and attended ...more
By st (96), westhampton beach on Apr 13, 17 7:34 AM
You’re welcome:). Also, for more information, visit https://wflelectedboard.org. View posts under the “News” tab. The first “Welcome” page has other items as well.

Remember, too, the sitting trustees are free to run for election. It’s nothing personal. It’s simply that we pay taxes and we want to vote. Exactly--it's fair, right, just, democratic. Also, elections can be held for one or two trustees per year, to allow for board continuity.

Good ...more
By st (96), westhampton beach on Apr 7, 17 7:50 AM
Great that the public came out to vote this down, Now if they would only do the same for the ridiculous school budgets.......
By bird (684), Sag Harbor on Apr 8, 17 11:11 AM
According to the library website, the next board meeting is scheduled for May 2nd at 7:00 pm. Anyone interested in learning "what's next" should attend. Somehow I doubt they will agree to just fix what really needs to be fixed and will cough up another expensive plan.
By sharkbait (32), Hampton Bays on Apr 12, 17 8:35 PM
- - - and so, Hampton Bays continues to slough away, its degeneration from a prime beach front community to a tawdry, "economically deprived" area accelerated by its parsimonious residents' choice of trivial, immediate monetary reward over long term prosperity.

Next - - - the schools!

Welcome to Flanders East.
By highhatsize (3498), East Quogue on Apr 12, 17 11:19 PM
No...not "parsimonious," just practical, debt-averse and unwilling to do without the facility for a year and a half. The library is actually successful which is why many saw no need for unnecessary multi-million dollar alterations to the structure, particularly considering the last building bond has not yet been paid off.
And, what "immediate reward?" Do we get a tax rebate for having sensibly voted no? I missed that part.
PS: Your imperious tsk-tsk-ing and negativistic prophesying is unconstructive, ...more
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Apr 13, 17 11:21 AM
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HHS, some of us actually used libraries to learn and not take chair yoga classes. I learned about cost versus benefit analyses. I learned to differentiate between the need of many and the wants of the a few. Please provide your address so I can have my contractor go to YOUR house and renovate it for $10 million ...don't worry...he will let you pay over 30 years and only charge you $600K a year in interest. No problem.
By HB Proud (854), Hampton Bays on Apr 13, 17 12:03 PM
Sorry you feel that way. I think HB voters did their JOB and saw a misguided effort if there ever was one. $10 million. With debt service $19 million. Confusion over what they planned. Complete roof. Yes. Oops. No, partial roof. Outrageous estimates. (Remember many in the HB community are in the building trades. They know reasonable costs when they see them. They also know seat-of-the-pants estimates and overinflated totally nonsensical estimates when they are bandied about also) The "old" renovation ...more
By baywoman (161), southampton on Apr 13, 17 5:53 PM
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Here's more relevant information, and it speaks a bit to summertimegal who is from Southampton (Rogers Memorial, Hampton Bays & Westhampton are all association libraries). Rogers Memorial went to an elected board in 1996 after the same situation that is currently happening in Hampton Bays, but it was after quite a battle.

I encourage people to search 27east's archives, 1996, Rogers Memorial Library. This quote below is from an 8/29/96 article, but there are quite a number of related articles:

"The ...more
By st (96), westhampton beach on Apr 13, 17 1:33 PM
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