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Sep 8, 2009 7:50 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

Health care reform march held in Sag Harbor

Sep 8, 2009 7:50 PM

As Congress goes back into session this week following a month-long break, a group of area residents marched in Sag Harbor on Saturday to demand reform of the nation’s health care system.

More than 70 people marched 3 miles, from Bay Point to Marine Park, in support of the much-debated public option under consideration by Congress and proposed in America’s Affordable Health Choices Act. The march ended with a rally at Marine Park, where speakers called for a government-run plan to compete with private insurers and control rising health care costs.

“We need competition for the health insurance companies,” said retired Brooklyn Health Network Chief Financial Officer Mike Anthony, a speaker at the rally and a former Southampton Town Democratic Committee chairman. “What we need to make [health care] more affordable is a public option. I think we need a robust public option.”

Sag Harbor Concerned Citizens for Health Care Reform, a group led by John Hooker and Harriet Sawyer Demato, organized the march, which coincided with hundreds of similar rallies across the nation assembled by MoveOn.org Political Action and other organizations.

Conservative factions opposed to the proposed health care reform did not make an appearance at Saturday’s 
rally.

Most marchers were middle-aged and older, and when speaker Janine Carter of Sag Harbor asked marchers to raise their hands if they have health insurance, nearly all raised their hands.

Health Insurance Plan of New York subscriber Maxine Kleendorfer, 62, a resident of Baiting Hollow, said she was marching for people who cannot access affordable health insurance or are denied insurance because of a pre-existing medical condition. She said her daughter, Laura, who had a heart attack two years ago at the age of 40 and later got insurance through her employer, was denied coverage for cardiologist visits because the insurer said her heart attack was a pre-existing condition.

“I would like a public option so that people have the choice to go into another type of organization rather than just private insurance,” Ms. Kleendorfer said.

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In NY state if you have health ins the company can NOT drop you for prexisting AND you can not be denied obtaining coverage if you have a prexisting condition. What they can do is deny coverage for most prexisting conditions for 1 year if you have had no coverage within the past 60 days. The reason for this rule is no one would get coverage until they get sick. Pretty fair I think.
Again the GVT has painted yet another part of the private sector, the Ins companies as the demons. Lets get to ...more
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Sep 7, 09 9:02 PM
it gets better, razza5350, if you haven't been to doctor for 90 days for that pre-existing condition, it doesn't even meet definition and must be covered from day 1! you have to wonder when prez runs around affirming that you can keep what you have....while explaining that what you have is no good! we've won, but let's not let up.
By hamptons surfer (79), southampton on Sep 8, 09 6:54 AM
If you lose your health coverage for any reason, say you lost your job, and you go 63 days without coverage, then you can be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions and they can deny all expenses related to that condition for up to one year. Think of how much a person could spend in one year on a serious illness. Those with a serious illness have seen their doctors about it within the last 6 months.

The insurance companies deny claims every single day. United Health is said to have ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 8, 09 10:04 AM
NYS hospitals incur $2 billion a year in uncompensated care. (Stat from the Health Association of NY -- HANYS). New York hospitals, to keep open, receive $857 million a year from the Bad Debt and Charity Care pool. Read the Berger Commission report. Excutive summary -- "New York Health Care system is broken and needs fundamental reform."
By number19 (108), Westhampton on Sep 8, 09 10:08 AM
People first- You are a lost cause.
1. It is true that if you do not continue coverage under cobra or NY state continuation or you have not have had coverage within the last 63 days that the insurance conmpanies will deny coverage. The reason IS no one would pay for coverage until they got sick. It is your responsibility to get the coverage. To help unemployed Obama put into effect a plan to have the GVT pay for 65% of your cobra premium for 9 month if you were termed from employment involuntarily.
2. ...more
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Sep 8, 09 11:01 AM
I attended the rally and I would like to thank all the organizers for putting together the event. Looking around me I did not see any left wing, socialist, agitators, but a group of well-spoken, considerate and caring individuals who believe that health care is a right, not a privilege.

We will get health care reform this year and that will be the base upon which we can build further reforms until the day that, as Bill Moyer said, "Health is not a commodity, but a condition."

To ...more
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Sep 8, 09 11:54 AM
razza, have a look at the facts. The following is from the California Nurses Assn. Similar studies exist across the country. If these numbers don' t make you sick, then keep your private insurance. 75% of all Americans want a public option.

Rejecting medical claims

California's top health plans reject an average of 1 in 5 claims for treatment -- 45.7 million claims over the last seven years. Here's how their rejection rates compared during the first six months of 2009:

PacifiCare: ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 8, 09 12:00 PM
By the way, the 10,000 physicians marching on Washington do not represent physicians as a whole. In fact, have a look at this website http://www.pnhp.org/

The site is Physicians for a National Health Program. Their mission: Single Payer National Health Insurance. That's right - SINGLE PAYER. Their membership includes 17,0000 medical professionals. Not just that, but overall 59% of all physicians support single payer.

Break it down further, one survey found that 83 percent ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 8, 09 12:10 PM
Razza5350 -

the majority of physicians actually WANT some kind of Gov reform. This based on published surveys (latest in April 09, Ann Int Med). The number is 59%. Those that do not, are usually the better paid ones (they stand to lose more, usually they do expensive sub-specialty procedures). However nearly all docs absolutely loath the constant fight with the insurance companies. Many now do not accept ANY insurance - you just pay cash. This is the trend and it is advancing very ...more
By doc4reform (3), East Hampton on Sep 8, 09 12:34 PM
You have way to much free time on you hands. I'm sure you could pull up tons of right wing or left wing artilces that will tell you a different story depending on what point of view you want to take. I am not necessarliy against a single payor system as long as the GVT doesn't run it. Problem with a single payor is now you need to FORCE everyone to buy it just like car insurance. Again the root of the problm is COST of Care.
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Sep 8, 09 12:39 PM
doc,
I like it...I disagre but an intelligent response.
1. I agree we need health care reform. I feel most people do. I would like to point out that Meidcare and Medicaid are lowering reimbursement which is causing doctors to drop then as well. II believe that is true that we need a universal claim form and increased underwriting procedures to help reduce administrative expenses.
2. I am sorry to hear about your mother in law. I do not about texas state laws but that can not happen ...more
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Sep 8, 09 1:00 PM
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Doc4reform, Thanks for your posting. I am with you all the way. At times it is exhausting trying to talk sense to people who don't care to listen, but it needs to be said time and time again until is sinks in, just like with a child.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 8, 09 2:13 PM
peoplefirst are you really Tim Bishop who says lets have an honest debate which equates to if you don't like my view I'm going to piss and moan like a little girl. What is it you far lefties say... Dissent is patriotic. Dissent is only patriotic to you if I agree with your agenda. At least Doc4 reform had some valid points. Again I AM for reform but I do not believe a GVT run plan must be included.
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Sep 8, 09 2:45 PM
"I'm going to piss and moan like a little girl." Thank you for your positive and highly intelligent contribution to the debate.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 8, 09 3:55 PM
Mr. Hamptons, funny, but I was just thinking how you anti-health care radicals sound a lot like people from the South. Perhaps you'd be willing to go and leave us overwhelmingly blue state northerners to make some real positive change. By the way, it is "secede"
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Sep 9, 09 5:37 PM
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WASHINGTON, Sept 10 (Reuters) - The number of people living in the United States without health insurance rose to 46.3 million in 2008 from 45.7 million a year earlier, a U.S. Census Bureau official said on Thursday.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 10, 09 12:44 PM
Forgot to mnetion that number is up from 30 million during Obamas speech to congress
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Sep 14, 09 10:14 AM
Razza,
Stupid is as stupid writes. If you think your inanities are clever retorts, you should go kiss yourself in the mirror. You are truly representative of most of the people unhinged by having a black president, who can not explain their opposition to the health care public option, except by rote cliches they receive from shock jocks. I challenge you to be intellectually honest and read the 2 articles recommended to you. If you can be honest.
By mo (89), Sag Harbor on Sep 16, 09 11:58 PM
Mo I am not a racist. Obama being black has nothing to do with why I disagree with the public option. I do not believe in big GVT. If you read my prior posts you will see my arguements and beliefs. I do not feel like regurgitating points to you. I believe you Libs say dissent is patriotic but I guess that only applies when someone agrees with you. Stop crying like a little girl
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Sep 17, 09 11:31 AM
Wow,I have read all of these healthcare posts and its really ashame to see how harsh those folks are that are supposedly ''for'' healthcare reform, even though everyone does seem to see the need to reform the system. The approach is different - but it I doubt the thoughtful people that post here are ignorant, racist and you can't be scared or fearful if you want to take care of yourself rather than rely on a federal subsidy. Can't we all just get along? As soon as there is a new healthcare related ...more
By thetruthhurts (21), southampton on Sep 17, 09 8:57 PM
it is very hard to accept the protests of aging former hippie's
who became capitalist pigs. rather contradictory - don't you think ??
i do however, appreciate their right to
protest.
By morris the cat (2), nyc on Oct 13, 09 12:39 PM
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