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Nov 22, 2011 6:52 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

The Fresh Market Is Store Interested In Southampton Village Site

Nov 29, 2011 4:59 PM

The Fresh Market, a Greensboro, North Carolina-based supermarket chain with more than 100 stores in 21 states, is the grocery store that has an arrangement in place with a Southampton Village family and hopes to set up shop in the village should a proposed local law allowing the development be approved by the Village Board in early 2012.

Bob Silver, a development representative at RS Silver Enterprises in Bedford, Westchester County, confirmed the identity of the market on Tuesday. Mr. Silver is the broker for the Glennon family, who owns a 68,950-square-foot lot in the village’s eastern corner that inspired the proposed law.

The Southampton Village Board last week set a public hearing for Thursday, January 12, on the law, which would alter the village zoning code to allow supermarkets to be built on certain parcels zoned as highway business.

Members of the public can weigh in on the plans at that night’s Village Board meeting, which begins at 6 p.m. at Village Hall on Main Street.

The proposed legislation would apply to all village lots zoned as highway business with street frontage on County Road 39 or 39A or Flying Point Road, with a lot area of at least 60,000 square feet, and the supermarket would be limited in size to 10,000 square feet to 20,000 square feet. Any application for a supermarket would need to win Village Board approval.

Mayor Mark Epley has said nine properties in the village fit the criteria of the proposed law—though the shuttered automobile dealership at 630 Hampton Road, which also fronts Flying Point Road at the eastern edge of the village, is the inspiration behind the legislation. Gil Flanagan, an attorney with the South Main Street firm Bourke, Flanagan and Asato P.C. in Southampton Village, which represents the Glennon family, owners of the Hampton Road lot, has said that his clients already have an arrangement in place with a “high-end” supermarket, should the law be adopted.

Founded in 1982, The Fresh Market’s 107 stores in 21 states all “convey the atmosphere of an old world European market,” according to the company’s website, and include an “old-style butcher shop and fish market, bakery, produce and floral stands, and delicatessen.” Perishable food items are available unpackaged, and the store offers such perks as free coffee and classical music playing in the background. The company started with a single 14,000-square-foot store in North Carolina.

The Fresh Market’s nearest locations to Southampton, according to its website, are in the affluent towns of Westport, Connecticut and Montvale, New Jersey. Additional Fresh Market supermarkets are expected to open soon in Avon, Connecticut, and Scarsdale in Westchester County.

Planning Commission Chairman Siamak Samii is expected to give a public presentation on the Hampton Road proposal at the next Village Board meeting on Thursday, December 8, at 6 p.m. at Village Hall.

At least one merchant has objected to the plan: Mike DeGennaro, the owner of Avanti Market and Southampton Wines, both of which are located in the Water Mill Shoppes plaza off Montauk Highway in Water Mill, has argued that a new supermarket on the village’s eastern end would detract shoppers from his businesses and tie up traffic.

“It portends the danger of all the small businesses in the plaza, and a grocery store of that size could have dry cleaning, a florist and video rentals, which would be redundant with the shops that are here,” Mr. DeGennaro said earlier this month. “I think the village looked at this as sort of the village in a vacuum. They didn’t look [farther] east.”

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By PBR (4952), Southampton on Nov 22, 11 7:32 PM
isn't this known as spot zoning, ie. make a zone to "help" one or more individuals make money? Mr. DeGennaro is correct in that any specialty market will indeed hurt his businesses and since Water Mill is a ghost town why would not the village look at neighboring areas?
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Nov 22, 11 8:46 PM
DeGennaro hurts his own business by failing to stock it, staff it, and light it adequately. Neither he nor any other businessman deserves protectionism. Bring on the competition!
By VOS (1230), WHB on Nov 22, 11 11:33 PM
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You got that right!
By guitarboy (1), Sag Harbor on Nov 23, 11 3:36 PM
I feel for the businesses that will lose out but we in Southampton need Walbaums to have some big time competition !!!!!! They know they are all most of us busy residents have. I simply dont have time to battle traffic to King Kullen or drive like some do all the way to Stop n Shop so they run a junkie store. The produce is always lacking and they are always out of stuff. The staff is always cursing, eating and simply rude the isles are way too small its a drag going there I just wish it was better ...more
By Crankypants (34), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 22, 11 10:11 PM
well said !
By coxie1 (37), southampton on Nov 23, 11 5:43 AM
Wow, the Westhampton Beach Waldbaum's and the Southampton Village Waldbaum's are twins. Imagine that!
By sayitaintsojoe (100), Westhampton on Nov 23, 11 10:59 AM
It does not seem right that they want to change the zoning for that store to accommodate a property owner that is not willing to divulge who the potential tenant will be. The residents have a right to know who the prospective tenant will be in order to better evaluate the potential impact .
Residents along from Cobb road in Watermill, Wickapogue Rd., Downers Path, and, of course, Flying Point Rd. may all be impacted by greater traffic flow to that store. More important, is how will the increased ...more
By Toma Noku (616), uptown on Nov 22, 11 11:17 PM
Translation if its Trader Joe's then its all good and they can change whatever they what to ... Right Toma isn't that what your saying. I say we need one 60,000 square foot whole foods and shut the other 3 crap holes down. Enough of this protectionist garbage already... I want a real supermarket.
By joe hampton (3429), south hampton on Nov 23, 11 1:29 AM
Its not at all what I'm saying. Having a large supermarket is a great idea, but not at that location. I like the Tuckahoe location for that.
By Toma Noku (616), uptown on Nov 23, 11 1:42 AM
Joe hampton, you sound exactly like a spoiled, three-year old child. What you call "protectionism" I call preservation - preservation of land a way of life.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 23, 11 10:10 AM
Toma, My apology if I grouped you in with the other hippies.... lol
By joe hampton (3429), south hampton on Nov 23, 11 1:07 PM
This is pretty straightforward--The Village badly needs a quality grocery store. To put up with Walbaum is just too painful. Schmidt's doesn't get it either, it's too small. Who ever can deliver a large high quality, gourmet grocery store wins.
The situation in Southampton Village is currently a disgrace when it comes to a grocery shopping experience.
By trent (1), southampton on Nov 23, 11 12:44 AM
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I totally love the idea STOP MONOPOLIZING!! what is it with Mr DeGennaro? honest competition brings offer and demand and everybody is a winner, Yes! what about THE CUSTIOMER ? they should put up a Best Yet so we dont have to go al the way to Riverhead !
By YXZ (32), Hampton Bays on Nov 23, 11 9:12 AM
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I MEANT CUSTOMERS !
By YXZ (32), Hampton Bays on Nov 23, 11 9:13 AM
Its Citerella.
By Draggerman (942), Southampton on Nov 23, 11 9:50 AM
Citarella would be terrific! Avanti is a pitiful replacement for the Citarella that was was in Watermill. But for better pricing (if not quality) I'd love to see a new Stop and Shop in town.
By rickyonmain (10), southampton on Nov 23, 11 10:31 AM
Citarella would HARDLY cause Waldbaum's to offer even lower prices.

Stop 'n' Shop however...
By Mr. Z (11693), North Sea on Nov 25, 11 7:22 PM
I agree with you. I went to Avanti around the time it opened and quicly realized that "this dog can't hunt". I never went back.
By Toma Noku (616), uptown on Nov 23, 11 9:02 PM
Another vote here for Best Yet.
By Zorro (66), Southampton on Nov 24, 11 9:22 PM
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There is no argument the Waldbaum's is small for a grocery store that has to accommodate a huge amount of traffic the store sees during the busy summer time and the holidays. I find it amazing how many people forget or don't know that we had 3 major supermarkets in the Village of Southampton at one time..IGA now CVS...Gristedes now Rite Aid...and A&P now Waldbaum's...not to mention smaller independent markets...Herbet's on Main Street...Catena's still open..and Schmidt's which earlier was called ...more
By maryskitchen (5), Southampton on Nov 25, 11 1:35 AM
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"rumors have it that Citarella's wants to leave East Hampton...rent to HIGH."

ROLMAO!

"The rent's TOO D**N HIGH!"
By Mr. Z (11693), North Sea on Nov 25, 11 7:28 PM
one little correction: Schmidts was always Schmidts since the 1980's. It opened in a little spot on Nugent street across from the old post office. Yes the building where Scmidts is now was once McLaren's. And Mac has since passed away. It is not easy to run a food emporium and so true about the low profits in todays world. The one good thing for owners family is the high quality food on the dinner table. That is after the customers have had the first cut!
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Nov 27, 11 2:10 PM
I heard that a Costco is coming to Riverhead.
By Toma Noku (616), uptown on Nov 25, 11 8:13 AM
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Unfortunatly... Rt. 58 is now the tacky riverhead 112.
By Allergic2Stupidity (77), Riverhead on Dec 4, 11 9:43 AM
It's Trader Joe and in my opinion Southampton is the wrong market for that concept. If a supermarket is what is needed, you must start at 40,000 square feet in order to be considered "super".
By Summer Resident (250), Manhattan on Nov 25, 11 11:52 AM
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I agree we need another supermarket to service our area,but to put one at that location is insane.....The traffic at that intersection is crazy now,just think how bad it will be with a supermarket there, all it would do is drive the traffic to
the side roads.....
By DJ9222 (85), southampton on Nov 27, 11 6:07 PM
Other than the Glennon corner lot, what other properties fit within the description from above?

Is this zoning change proposal a head-fake?
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"The proposed legislation would apply to all village lots zoned as highway business with street frontage on County Road 39 or 39A or Flying Point Road, with a lot area of at least 60,000 square feet, and the supermarket would be limited in size to 10,000 square feet to 20,000 square feet. Any application for ...more
By PBR (4952), Southampton on Nov 28, 11 9:02 PM
Article updated. The Mayor has indicated that nine properties would be affected by the zoning change. It would be helpful to know which properties IMO, as we should be sure what can of worms we might be opening up here. The large triangular piece north of Hillcrest Ave. (off North Sea Road) seems noteworthy in this respect (see post above for zoning map link).
By PBR (4952), Southampton on Nov 29, 11 5:13 PM
Well I object to Mr DeGennaros objection who does he think he is arguing that a new supermarket on the village’s eastern end would detract shoppers from his businesses. Where does he think he lives that such disregard for the constitution is the norm...Does he think he lives in China or San Francisco or Southam Oh sorry I forgot
By 27dan (2817), Southampton on Nov 29, 11 8:31 PM
I'd like to see general pricing of store items.

The most I could come up with was a $5.99 lb. special on Tuesdays for rib roast, most likely $8.99 lb. regular price.

32 oz. of crabcakes for only $85! ($2.66 per oz.) 100 shrimp, for ONLY $100! ($1 per shrimp) 45 scallops, for $135 ($3 a scallop). What a STEAL! Well, on the part of the store, that is.

There is NO WAY IN H**L that this store will force Waldbaum's to drop, or price more competitively. They simply ARE NOT ...more
Nov 29, 11 10:21 PM appended by Mr. Z
COLLOSAL SEA SCALLOPS ONLY $30 PER POUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Mr. Z (11693), North Sea on Nov 29, 11 10:21 PM
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I cant believe that this idea is even being entertained. This will be horrible for the Flying point section of Water Mill. This is SH village property but its the Water Mill residents that will be screwed on this. And everyone will be so horrified by the traffic that this will cause at this crucial turn. Also there is nothing charming about Whole Foods its just another supermarket. Please say no to this. Dont let them take away our lovely way of life. There has to be another answer for this property.
By watermillluvr1 (11), watermill on Nov 29, 11 11:47 PM
The Glennon property is a natural location for a quality food market that can serve the village , Watermill, and Bridgehampton. Reduce the traffic in the middle of the Village-hope it opens before Memorial Day.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 30, 11 12:07 AM
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How about not in our back yard? If SH village wants another grocery- put it in another location. This is right down the road from beautiful Mecox Bay and Flying Point Beach. We dont need it here . What about a traffic study and enviromental impact.? Has anyone realized that 18 wheelers will come in the of the night for deliveries? Thought about the stadium lighting? Supermarkets are not what you want in a neighborhood. They are noisy and smelly and ugly.
By watermillluvr1 (11), watermill on Nov 30, 11 12:30 AM
And I bet you like to leat too!
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Nov 30, 11 3:53 PM
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By watermillluvr1 (11), watermill on Nov 30, 11 12:32 AM
Hey, luvr, it's not all about you. Please don't let this proposal interfere with your sense of entitlement.
By VOS (1230), WHB on Nov 30, 11 1:31 AM
Fabulous! Something else to compete with Waldbaums. King Kullen, Citarellas and Scmidts. A little variety is good for everyone and there is enough of a demographic by that loaction. Hopefully they can keep the prices down so us year rounders can go there. Variety competition is a good thing!
By North Sea Citizen (564), North Sea on Nov 30, 11 6:19 AM
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Hey, Glennons! Have you approached Stop and Shop to see if they might be interested in your location? Before you sign anything, do us a favor as fellow community members and talk to them. Not all of us are rich or want fancy foods. We could really use a small, carefully edited Stop and Shop to serve the village and surrounding areas. Point out that they would make a bloody fortune with their Pea Pod home delivery service to seasonal residents.



By goldenrod (505), southampton on Nov 30, 11 11:59 AM
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Fat lot of chance you have of getting a big box store to consider a carefully edited 'small' store. I do not believe you have any conception of how the food business is run!
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Nov 30, 11 4:13 PM
A little off topic but does anyone know whatever happened to the proposed market in Wainscott (where the old car dealership was)? We need one desperately. The small Citarella closed and now the Hampton Market is closed due to fire. Please Fresh Market, come to Wainscott!
By wainscotter (18), wainscott on Nov 30, 11 2:00 PM
Editor, the map illustration at the top of article is great. Any chance of zooming out, and showing the nine parcels (per Mayor Epley) which would be affected by this proposed change of zone? In particular, there is a large triangular piece of HB apparently north of Hillcrest Avenue and west of North Sea Road.

Will this large triangle benefit from the change of zone, and if so, who owns each parcel within it?

Could the Glennon property be just the tip of this Titanic iceberg?

Hmmmmm?
By PBR (4952), Southampton on Nov 30, 11 2:10 PM
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Hey Y'all, All Y'all are so lucky to have such a fine Market come to y'alls home place. We have been shopping there ever since one opened in The Villages,Fla. People in Southampton who are used to quailty meats and such will be delighted. You will have no problem with the traffic any more than you do now. And the distance between Schmidts and that corner of Flying Point Road will be just fine to keep Schmidts owners happy. Their customers too. Sometimes I have been in Schmidts lately and it has ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Nov 30, 11 3:50 PM
Yes! We need a some more choices in this town. Fresh Market would be amazing.
By tmarie (30), Southampton on Nov 30, 11 7:46 PM
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For all the folks citing "spot zoning" beginning with the 2nd post up there.
Unfortunately the village arb has long ignored all those guide lines to the great dismay of many residents. One of the most egregious (my opinion) is the one on North Main Street between Jennings Ave. and Layton Ave. After the 2nd WW a local boy came home from the war and was looking for property to buy for his building business. Low and behold, there was a beautiful old, circa early 1800's, captains house sitting empty ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Dec 1, 11 8:04 AM
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summertime,

After WW II, Southampton Village was a sleepy little place.

-- no zoning
-- no ARB
-- thus, no spot zoning

And now, there appears to be plenty of anger about a veteran who came home and made good? summertime, are you related in any way to the family who owned the previous captains house? in the late 1940's

Please clarify.

PS -- And what about the 7-11 which was built opposite Prospect Street when there WAS zoning? Fortunately it moved ...more
By PBR (4952), Southampton on Dec 1, 11 9:34 PM
Summertime is actually one of the original settlers. So old in fact, that the season of Summer was actually named after her family. She is married to Mr. Z. There is simply nothing past, present or future that between Summertime and Mr. Z can't be figured out. Unlike us, she was there that fateful day in the 1800s as the "local boy" tore down the house while the "from away" family kept theirs. Fast forward 200+ years and an online love affair much like her old pals Romeo and Juliet take place, ...more
By Frissel (5), East Hampton on Dec 2, 11 7:25 AM
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You are so funny. I loved your response.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Dec 3, 11 10:50 AM
You are so right about the 7-11. If wishes were horses everyone would ride. and I would charge right at those two blights on my favorite part of North Main Street. I lived on that part of North Main in my ancient childhood.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Dec 3, 11 10:55 AM
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By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Dec 3, 11 10:57 AM
You are so right about the zoning.PBR. Anger is too strong a word, disapponint, yes about the two brick buildings. If wishes were horses everyone would ride and I would charge right at those two blights on my favorite part of North Main Street. I lived on that section of N. Main in my ancient childhood. And on the east side on N. Main, the street opposite the former 7-11, is Layton Ave. Opposite Prospect St. on the east side of North Main, is Our Lady of The Hamptons School.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Dec 3, 11 11:13 AM
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Bring one to East Hampton and save us all from Waldbaum's.
By harbor (411), East Hampton on Dec 1, 11 2:43 PM
That's great news, love Fresh Market
By Q333 (161), Southampton on Dec 1, 11 8:46 PM
Re: earlier references to Whole Foods coming to town; it's not really a supermarket but huge gourmet market. Their stuff is very good but very expensive. The chain is often called Whole Paycheck.
By rickyonmain (10), southampton on Dec 2, 11 10:36 AM
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then it's the perfect! we have whole paycheck plumbers, whole paycheck gas stations, whole paycheck restaurants etc.
By harbor (411), East Hampton on Dec 2, 11 1:41 PM
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This store will change the entire profile of Flying point Road. Also, Watermillluver stated, the stadium lighting required for security and parking is going to make this charming, upscale location look as cheesy as Green Acres.

What a mistake!!!
By elliot (254), sag harbor on Dec 3, 11 1:30 AM
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because the rat infested garages and over grow weeds that are there now are so attractive.
By They call me (2797), southampton on Dec 3, 11 7:50 AM
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How about a Florida -Suthampton connection! open up a Publix and since SH is so spoiled, we'll be happy to have our groceries taken to our cars and NO TIPPING policy :) just cortesy for a change !
By YXZ (32), Hampton Bays on Dec 8, 11 10:55 AM
XYZ has a good idea. Publix would never stand for the dirty mixed up situation at Waldbaums. But Publix will never travel into the land north of the Mason Dixon line where they have, oh horrors, unions!
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Dec 8, 11 11:33 AM
Just because they have unions doesn't mean Publix would have to use them. Whole Foods is union free and happy to be so.

And Publix would be very unlikely to open up in NY because it's difficult to have a such a large gap in your supply chain of stores. Companies like grocery stores generally expand outward in a linear fashion so their infastructure (like trucks) grow with it. It's highly unlikely that it would make sense cost wise, which is a shame becuase Publix is one nice grocery ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 9, 11 11:09 AM
Thats why I love my house in Boca.... No Union mentality. Things actually get done in a right to work state....and with a smile and a good morning.
By joe hampton (3429), south hampton on Dec 9, 11 10:51 AM
Just back from Fla-shipped at the Fresh Market in Stuart everyday. Great experience
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on May 21, 12 12:12 PM