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UPDATE: Wilson Chains Trucks To House In Latest In Property Dispute

Apr 15, 2013 4:07 PM

UPDATE: Monday, 2:30 p.m.

In the trenches of a land dispute with her neighbor, Southampton Village and Southampton Town Justice Barbara Wilson chained her Dodge Dakota truck to her yellow Toyota SUV, and chained both vehicles to a column on her front porch Monday morning. She said she did so because her neighbor, Tony Gugliotta, again threatened to tow away her SUV.

The two have been in a land dispute over a small piece of Ms. Wilson’s Elm Street driveway that Mr. Gugliotta said is on his property. He has plans to landscape the area where the driveway crosses his property, removing part of her driveway, he said.

In an effort to stake her claim, Ms. Wilson has kept her bright yellow SUV parked on the disputed line that divides the properties. She posted “No trespassing” signs and warnings of punishment under civil and criminal law inside the car’s windows, but has since taken them down.

The disputed land is currently part of Ms. Wilson’s driveway, and she said it has been since her family moved into the home at 165 Elm Street in the 1940s. Although both their survey plans show that a sliver of her driveway belongs to Mr. Gugliotta, Ms. Wilson is claiming adverse possession, or “squatter’s rights,” which allows a person to claim title to property that he or she has used for a period of years, unchallenged.

The two are seemingly in a stand off, waiting for the other to make a move.

Original Story:

Drivers traveling down Southampton Village’s iconic Elm Street have slowed down to view a spectacle taking place at the property line separating homeowners Barbara Wilson and Tony Gugliotta.

The two have been in a land dispute over a sliver of Ms. Wilson’s Elm Street driveway that Mr. Gugliotta said is on his property, and in the last month the disagreement has grown into an all-out feud.

In an effort to stake her claim, Ms. Wilson, who is a Southampton Village and Southampton Town justice, has kept her bright yellow SUV parked on the disputed line that divides the properties. Boldly posted inside the car’s windows are “No trespassing” signs and warnings of punishment under civil and criminal law, designed to keep Mr. Gugliotta from having the vehicle towed.

The land in question is currently part of Ms. Wilson’s driveway, and she said it has been since her family moved into the home at 165 Elm Street in the 1940s. A survey taken of the site in the 1940s is slightly different from today’s survey: approximately 3½ feet is missing from the southwestern side of her property, in the shape of a pizza slice. Both Ms. Wilson’s and Mr. Gugliotta’s up-to-date surveys reflect the change, putting the property line in the driveway.

But Ms. Wilson is claiming adverse possession, or “squatter’s rights,” which allows a person to claim title to property that he or she has used for a period of years, unchallenged.

To Mr. Gugliotta, who owns 161 Elm Street, the survey doesn’t lie—and he wants to erect a fence on the property line to make the distinction clear.

“She’s not cooperating—she’s a bully of a neighbor,” Mr. Gugliotta said. “I can’t put a fence there, because she’s purposely parking there every day.”

Mr. Gugliotta owns TS Construction of Sayville and has restored his $1.6 million home—but not without trouble, he said. Before Ms. Wilson left for a recent two-week trip to Europe, she left her SUV parked on the disputed line. Mr. Gugliotta said he was seriously thinking about towing it but opted not to.

Ms. Wilson said she’ll keep her car there as long as it takes to work the matter out, and is adamant about charging Mr. Gugliotta with criminal trespass and burglary if he decides to call a towing company.

“I’m protecting the further destruction of my property,” she said on Monday. “If he tows it, he’s going to be liable. I don’t want to own or take his property, I simply want to be able to pass through my driveway the way my mother, father, grandmother, aunts and uncles have.”

Trying to literally stake out his property line before Ms. Wilson parked her car, Mr. Gugliotta put up line markers—which Ms. Wilson promptly pulled out and, in one case, threw on his property, he said. He then placed stones on the line; Ms. Wilson said she couldn’t move them, so his own workers moved them for her.

She claims her neighbor started the feud by tearing out a portion of the driveway that is on his side of the line. “He ripped out what I had there—bricks and cement—he ripped it out so I couldn’t drive into the driveway,” she said, adding that he later put a nail in the driveway to mark his territory. That’s when she decided to deploy the SUV to mark the territory.

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Neighbors...Kinda like family...You don't get to pick them!
By V.Tomanoku (622), southampton on Apr 12, 13 11:10 AM
You have got to be kidding! The Wilson family was there first. Mr. Gugliotta had to have seen the driveway when he bought the property. He did look at it before he paid didn't he? I know all the houses on Elm Street... I lived there a few doors north and in my day that driveway was dirt and was shared by both homeowners in the share and share alike manner. Too bad all those newcomers can't see what they are buying and take it for what it is. I bet all he wants to do is flip it anyway.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 12, 13 3:37 PM
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The legal, state sanctioned survey shows that Wilson is encroaching on Mr. Gugliotta's property. If he were to try and sell it, he couldn't. No title insurance company would provide insurance while a neighbor is actively encroaching. No title insurance means no bank would ever write a mortgage for the property either.

So what would you do? Give the neighbor an easement and pay the $5,000 to $10,000 that's going to cost as a gift? Give me a break. His offer to give her the easement as long ...more
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Apr 12, 13 7:18 PM
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RealtyFirst, you never seem to get it. I said the Wilson family was there first. Did Guuligotti not Pay Attention to the driveway? He and his agent are at FAULT!
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 12, 13 8:42 PM
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He has a Town and Country Real Estate sign on the lawn. This is a flip for him. he only cares about the money.
By lifesaver (108), speonk on Apr 12, 13 9:10 PM
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You are so right. That part of Elm Street was always the blue collor worker's home place. When I was selling real estate back in 1985 one of my buyers said "Why, on Elm I would never buy north of John Street
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 12, 13 9:19 PM
Not to disagree but, didn't he just buy and renovate the property. Why wasn't the issue brought up when he was purchasing.
By khan (36), hampton bays on Apr 16, 13 8:42 PM
The Wilson's were not there first, someone else was. The fact that they've been there since the 1940's means they made a mistake and encroached on their neighbors land. The right thing to do would be to correct their error. The crass and ungentlemanly way to handle this is to fall back on a legal technicality that neighbors should not be using for minor issues like this. It would be different if the Wilson's accidentally built their house on his property, lived in it for decades and faced hundreds ...more
By Funbeer (204), Southampton on Apr 16, 13 8:49 PM

Wilson is known by many as the judge who often times has the most arbitrary and wackiest decisions among all the judges in Southampton.

She is a judge that should render decisions that conform to the law, and not to legitimize long time illegal encroachment of her family( ie, trespassing!) on a neighbor's property, using a legalistic technicality to trespass on someone else's property!

Just because her family was allowed by a previous owner to encroach on their property does ...more
By Obbservant (438), southampton on Apr 18, 13 2:10 PM
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Seems childish on Wilsons part. If we were to do that we would be asked to take the signs down and park in the driveway until the courts decide. I guess she is above the law.
By GoldenBoy (320), EastEnd on Apr 12, 13 12:29 PM
Sounds like a clear case of abuse of power, NY State demands more licensing and continuing education for a manicurist or hair stylist than it does for this little local judges. The NY Times has found decades upon decades of abusive intimidation by judges in their rural or semi-rural jurisdictions. To throw around ''under penalty of civil and criminal law'' makes Southampton Town Justice Barbara L. Wilson no better than the 3rd world esque deviants to whom she administers public lashings for frivolous ...more
By Local 69 (12), southampton on Apr 12, 13 1:36 PM
Stupid temper tantrum.......surely there are bigger issues going on in the world and all this energy can be put onto something that's really important???
By honeylamb (71), East Quogue on Apr 12, 13 2:18 PM
The Judge's inclusion in her signs of a citation to the New York Penal Law ("P.L.") sections on criminal mischief and criminal trespass appear to be totally inapposite, and merely a thinly veiled attempt at intimidation. Both parties' surveys show the Wilson driveway is slightly encroaching on her neighbor's property. David Buda
By davbud (108), east hampton on Apr 12, 13 2:41 PM
The Wilsons have lived there since the 1940s...look at the ORIGINAL survey. Obviously something got changed in Gugliotta's favor somehow. Barbara Wilson should have rights to the original survey. Newcomers arrive and think they can change things to their favor. Barbara Wilson, I am in your corner! ;)
By AnonymousSgh (181), Sag Harbor on Apr 12, 13 2:57 PM
You are wrong as far that property is concerned. It has been in the same family since 1940's I vouch for 1944 anyway. That is when my family moved to Elm St.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 12, 13 8:51 PM
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Ernie and family have been in this town for generations.

Fairwind, do you know who used to own the now Bridgehampton National Bank lot in the village?
By Mr. Z (9294), North Sea on Apr 12, 13 8:54 PM
Barbara Wilson's father lived on Mary's Lane in North Sea...BUT her grandparents owned the house on Elm Street.
By AnonymousSgh (181), Sag Harbor on Apr 12, 13 9:56 PM
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Fairwind....And your point is?... The BNB lot is on Hampton Road.
By AnonymousSgh (181), Sag Harbor on Apr 13, 13 5:52 PM
How do you know that for sure? I mean you know for sure that D&B built the original building?
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 14, 13 12:57 PM
Right! The person with NO government connections has gone out and somehow "changed" the property deeds... while the person who works FOR the government is beyond reproach. What a silly post.
By littleplains (305), olde england on Apr 15, 13 5:29 PM
They may have owned it since the '40's but they lived on Mary's Lane from the '60's through at least the 80's.
By Funbeer (204), Southampton on Apr 16, 13 8:51 PM
There is no question that she is guilty of intimidation and improper use of her title as a judge in NY State. She knows darn well the removal of a her property that she willfully placed on her neighbor's property before leaving town would NEVER end up in criminal court nor would it end of in civil court. Mr. Guliatta should have that eye-sore of a car towed from his property post haste and challenge this so called judge to abuse the justice system to satiate her own personal bad attitude.
By Local 69 (12), southampton on Apr 12, 13 3:00 PM
Local69, what does that mean 1969 is when you moved to "the Hamptons"? I was told that the only locals were the Indians.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 14, 13 1:15 PM
I wouldn't want to describe what the '69 means to a nice old lady such as yourself.
By Local 69 (12), southampton on Apr 16, 13 9:35 AM
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I lived there in the 1940's untill 1952. Just up the road a few doors to the north of the property in question. Walked past those houses every day of my life on Elm Street. In the old days those two neighbors accepted and shared the driveway. Actually the drive was dirt then. You could do that in the good old days when neighbors knew each other and relationships were friendly. The judges' family were easy to get along with. The "new" homeowner bought the property knowing the impediment. Unless ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 12, 13 3:19 PM
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Does she moonlight as a taxi driver. That thing is uglier than Aunt Daisys cooter.
By we could run this town! (128), the oceanfront trailer park on Apr 12, 13 4:38 PM
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It is interesting that Tony's survey shows his driveway encroaching onto his other neighbor's property, however, at the time his survey was prepared, there was a "Proposed Driveway Easement" (to be purchased from the other neighbor?) and also a 1.5 foot landscape buffer. I guess "turnabout is fair play." David Buda
By davbud (108), east hampton on Apr 12, 13 5:14 PM
Please read my reports in this. The driveway was a Y long before Gugliotta bought the place. Some day the R E buying public will learn what fools they are to pay millions Unless they want to buy two houses there for tear downs and make it one lot.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 12, 13 9:24 PM
Both parties must have known, since they both have their own surveys. Why an attorney would have a brick border constructed around their property without the benefit of a survey is puzzling.

The problem is it appears Mr. Gugliotta is trying to sell that house, and encroachments show up when the title search is done.

It could be that the deeded dimensions of the homes on Elm Street add up to more than the total length of the street, in which case each homeowner has to give up a ...more
By diy_guy (101), Southampton on Apr 12, 13 7:30 PM
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It does look pretty cut and dried from what the surveys show. Judge Smith has to be more careful than Mr.Gugliotta as unless her case is iron clad she'll be accused of using her position in the town/village to intimidate her neighbor. Even if there is an adverse possession claim here on Judge Wilson's part it could come back to bite her at election time...
By Arnold Timer (263), Sag Harbor on Apr 12, 13 8:35 PM
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You all are thinking without knowing the truth. I lived there only 4 doors north of the Wilson Family in 1944 to 1952. All lof that time Barbara'a grandparents and Aunts and Uncle Art lived there. The driveway was dirt. Both home owners shared the drive. When they got to their back yard they turned to their own yard back of the house. Get it? It was a Y U kn c it now I hope.!!!!!!!1 In case u need more help it was more than 70 Years ago.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 12, 13 9:12 PM
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I get it! But life is different now than it was in the 40's and 50's. Property on Elm Street is now worth a fortune and properties will be renovated, landscaped and inevitably trade hands. Since the parties obviously can't resolve this amicably then the surveys are the the bottom line. As stated clearly above, if Wilson's driveway is indeed on her neighbor's property it will be an impediment to his abilty to sell and she should move it. Good driveways make good neighbors:)
By Arnold Timer (263), Sag Harbor on Apr 13, 13 1:17 PM
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Be fair and share......a basic concept learned in kindergarten. It would seem more feasible for the town to determine it's a "shared" driveway and end the dispute.
By suzer67 (51), nanuet on Apr 14, 13 4:44 PM
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She reminds me of that other civilly disobedient idiot I know...
By Mr. Z (9294), North Sea on Apr 12, 13 8:49 PM
U R NUTS
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 12, 13 9:26 PM
Has Guinness checked to see if you are the only 80 year old involved with civic issues taking place 1600 miles away from where she resides?
By Local 69 (12), southampton on Apr 13, 13 4:53 AM
We get your point already. It doesn't matter who was there first. A line is a line.
By CaptainSig (640), Dutch Harbor on Apr 13, 13 6:23 AM
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@ summertime:

Note the post below based on logic, not polemics.

Nuts, indeed.
By Mr. Z (9294), North Sea on Apr 13, 13 12:39 PM
I love that!!! Good for U
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 14, 13 1:19 PM
Wilson's family has owned 99.5% of and used 100% of the driveway to access the garage since 1940's and have legal rights to continue to do so. The new survey denies access to the garage that has been used since 1940 therefore Wilson has eminent domain that was granted by the previous owners and Mr. Gugliotta who has owned the house only a few years has no legal rights to that land. You cannot legally deny people access to their property especially since it has been used for over 70 years.
By lifesaver (108), speonk on Apr 12, 13 9:29 PM
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The driveway is wide enough for access (just look at the picture), so it is not denying anybody access to anything. Not to mention she has room to move the driveway entrance over if she so desires.

By your reasoning, according to Summertime the owners of the Gugliatto property shared her driveway, so I guess she is denying him access, requiring him to get an easement from the other neighbor?

I don't buy into that reasoning. The term is adverse possession, not eminent domain. ...more
By diy_guy (101), Southampton on Apr 13, 13 9:10 AM
Who cares what it was like 70 years ago. Seems as though senility has its perks!
By Local 69 (12), southampton on Apr 13, 13 4:49 AM
A line may be a line on a survey, but not when long standing custom, ten years or more, allows another to pass over it without dispute. That's real estate 101. This driveway has been used exactly in the same manner for generations, therefore there are legal easement rights for one neighbor to continue crossing a bit of the other's property.
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Apr 13, 13 10:29 AM
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It looks like someone twisted the ruler a bit when they drew the southern line on the survey.

It's the difference of a few degrees on a vector. Thing is, that though the bearings at the rear of the survey (Wilson: 70 51' 50") are identical, the front and rear property width are not. The bearings seem to stipulate the lot should be an equal width front to rear. I also find it interesting that if you straighten the line, the front and rear property lines (Wilson) would be almost the exact ...more
Apr 13, 13 12:20 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, if you look at the Gugliotta survey, the exact same bearing (70 51' 50") is shown on his northern boundary, yet the line is not straight. Looks like someone is plying the line should you look at the Gugliotta line. There is a pivot changing the bearing of the property line from the original. If you apply the original bearing, the eastern line bordering Elm St. would be on the edge of the driveway. Perhaps someone built the "Gugliotta" house a bit too far north?
By Mr. Z (9294), North Sea on Apr 13, 13 12:20 PM
WHO CARES?!!! JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE LIVED THEIR YOUR WHOLE LIFE DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN "RELAX" THE LAW!!

SURVEY SAYS...
By just breath (82), yuck on Apr 13, 13 11:00 AM
Are the two property owners in court yet? Tell it to a neutral judge ASAP IMO.

Do their title insurance policies provide for arbitration?
By PBR (4803), Southampton on Apr 13, 13 1:16 PM
It seems irresponsible to show the Judge's house and Street in the newspaper.How about if a defendant is seeking revenge? Now they know exactly where she lives.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Apr 13, 13 7:11 PM
I like judge Wilson but she is wrong. A survey shows its not hers property. I don't care how long her family lived there. If it were squatters right why would you need a survey.If if were they way she thinks, what a mess property ownership would be there is no clear title to anything
By fish sticks (44), hampton bays on Apr 13, 13 7:49 PM
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silly
By blackduck (6), southampton on Apr 14, 13 10:51 AM
The whole subject is immaterial to those of us who are commenting on the principals problem... but this old timer is wondering just when the new survey was drawn, did both parties know the survey was being done, and did Mr. Gugliotta know the drive way 'problem' when he bought 161 Elm in the first place? How did an intelligent buyer purchase that property in the first place? As it has been mentioned I am old but still that can't be held against me :)
On the west side of Elm, north of VanBrunt ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 14, 13 1:33 PM
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This is not the way an elected official should act period. A bad example of lack of judicial and balanced behavior. Arbitration is an option.

By blackduck1 (20), southampton on Apr 14, 13 2:57 PM
Does the Judge plan on leaving her bright yellow car parked with two wheels on her neighbor's property for the next 20 years, so as to establish and satisfy the elements of a claim of ownership through adverse possession? An adverse possession claimant must show that possession is actual, open, notorious, exclusive, hostile, under cover of claim or right, and continuous and uninterrupted for the statutory period of 20 years. David Buda
By davbud (108), east hampton on Apr 14, 13 10:32 PM
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Look at both surveys intently, not just the one.

There is not a straight boundary line on the Gugliotta property. He doesn't even entirely own his own driveway, or the proposed landscape buffer on the south side of the property.

What this looks like to me is either the Gugliotta home was built too far to the north, or was added on to at some point and encroaches on the Wilson lot. Someone working in some type of easement would explain why the southern line on the Wilson survey ...more
By Mr. Z (9294), North Sea on Apr 15, 13 4:54 AM
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dav - it's 10 years and she showed that by maintaining the driveway and utilizing it daily.

That being said, this is pathetic, sad and childish. The fact that she is a judge makes it worse. If I had to go before her I'd be thrilled - should be easy to argue she is not of sound mind!
By Nature (2952), Hampton Bays on Apr 15, 13 3:34 PM
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What would you do if someone was taking your property? The only thing childish is Gugliotta trying to ignore the law, and an easement he was well aware of when he purchased the lot.
By chief1 (2312), southampton on Apr 15, 13 4:51 PM
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There is no easement...it's gugliotta's property, and Wilson is claiming it's hers. There are a whole multitude of ways of going about this. Chaining your car to your house isn't one of them
By Nature (2952), Hampton Bays on Apr 15, 13 6:39 PM
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Oops, you're right, 10 years in New York, not 20 years like in New Jersey. But, I dare say simply maintaining a driveway that slightly encroaches onto a neighbor's property is not sufficient. On the other hand, parking a bright yellow vehicle on a neighbor's property satisfies the "notorious" requirement and there's more than enough "hostility" in the language of the warning signs placed in said vehicle. However, you misunderstand the nature of the remedy of claiming another's land by virtue ...more
By davbud (108), east hampton on Apr 15, 13 11:44 PM
Didn't really misunderstand - just omitted the part you added which is what I was trying to explain to Chief (but that's like talking to a doorknob). There are actual legal legitimate ways of dealing with this situation that don't require acting like a 5 year old who doesn't want to share. Pathetic. Lawyers set to go before her are probably salivating
By Nature (2952), Hampton Bays on Apr 16, 13 9:42 AM
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The real question here is WHY did that investment buyer buy that lot when the impeidment was already there? That driveway has been in that confiruration for over 65 years. Just like those folks who are without morals just want to throw their weight and cash around.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 16, 13 2:06 PM
You are clueless as usual. It's called adverse possession, and by the mere fact that Wilson has maintained the area she has rights to it. What she is doing is keeping her continuous rights to the property so Mr Gugliota doesn't install a fence to cut off her access. Just because you don't like the law doesn't mean it isn't valid. There are hundreds of cases of adverse possession so Judge Wilson is on firm ground. The part of her posting parts of the penal code to her truck to intimidate someone ...more
By chief1 (2312), southampton on Apr 16, 13 9:10 PM
ROFLMAO...She's totaly lost it...
By V.Tomanoku (622), southampton on Apr 15, 13 3:49 PM
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"The two are seemingly in a stand off, waiting for the other to make a move."

How about a move to court for a civilized resolution to this matter?
By PBR (4803), Southampton on Apr 15, 13 4:29 PM
Sounds like it is time for Ms. Wilson to be evaluated by the professionals.
By ba (49), speonk on Apr 15, 13 5:08 PM
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Are U offering ur services?
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 16, 13 2:07 PM
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By bigfresh (2901), north sea on Apr 15, 13 5:10 PM
She hasn't changed all that much since high school.
Sigh....
By Uncle Fester (57), Southampton on Apr 15, 13 5:12 PM
good to see we have such thoughtful, level-headed JUDGES. What a farce
By littleplains (305), olde england on Apr 15, 13 5:17 PM
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Southampton Town should intervene. There should be a deal worked out whereby Gugliota gives up part of that driveway and is compensated by SH Town. In exchange, Wilson steps down, avoids a not-fit-to-wear-the-robe style of hearing, with no pension. If I were an attorney in front of her, I would demand mistrial in 2 seconds and simply use this behavior as evidence that this lady is unfit to be a judge, much less operate either one of those cars.
By Local 69 (12), southampton on Apr 15, 13 5:55 PM
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This property is in the Village of Southampton, not the Town.

The dispute is a private matter, albeit the dirty laundry is being shown in public, and the two parties, their attorneys, title companies, and the court system can resolve this without any government involvement IMO.

Your final point deserves consideration IMO.
By PBR (4803), Southampton on Apr 15, 13 6:02 PM
She's a SH Town Justice so they would have to negotiate her retirement. Personal matter, personnel. Everyone wins.
By Local 69 (12), southampton on Apr 15, 13 6:05 PM
I've seen her (sitting) in action twice now -- the woman is certifiable and should be removed from the bench as expeditiously as possible! It shows just how low the Town Republican Party has fallen that they would nominate and renominate her.
By Frank Wheeler (1723), Northampton on Apr 15, 13 6:26 PM
Maybe the NYS Commission on Judicial Conduct needs to review what is going on here.
By nellie (451), sag harbor on Apr 15, 13 7:52 PM
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please people make Barbara into a person instead of a Justice. she is protecting what has been her family's rights for over 70 years. This has nothing to do with her job (s) as town and village justice and has only to do with her being a homeowner thanks to her previous ancestors. To make this into a job inspired act is pathetic at best. It is a property line disagreement nothing more, nothing less. Since she has maintained and her family has used the driveway for over 70 years why is this ...more
By xtiego (592), bridgehampton on Apr 15, 13 8:30 PM
Uh, no. The judge was the one who immediately started to quote lines of legalese and manipulated this situation squarely to engage in intimidation regarding the court system. Ms. Wilson is blatantly capitalizing on her professional vocabulary and it cloaking her entire position under her black justices' garb. If a police officer used his gun or an attorney used frivolous lawsuits in the same way, there would be implications. Just because its less tangible here doesn't mean its time for this ...more
By Local 69 (12), southampton on Apr 16, 13 8:31 AM
It looks like someone twisted the ruler a bit when they drew the southern line on the Wilson survey. As far as I know, the Wilson lot was survetyed, and the home was there first. Not only that, but the bearings on the survey don't add up and the Gugliotta line doesn't match the straight one on the older survey. The Gugliotta line has a pivot, and has been modified as it is NOT straight. Gugliotta's lot looks piecemealed, while the Wilson lot is almost "square" at 34/36.

It's the difference ...more
By Mr. Z (9294), North Sea on Apr 15, 13 8:57 PM
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"Judges must demonstrate their commitment to maintaining public confidence in
the integrity and impartiality of their decisions by considering how the public
might reasonably view their conduct." to quote Cynthia Gray.

Regardless of who is correct here from a legal standpoint, Justice Wilson's actions are not becoming of an elected Town/Village Justice. Part of the responsibility she has in her position is to always act in a manner so that there is no appearance of impropriety. ...more
By Arnold Timer (263), Sag Harbor on Apr 15, 13 9:54 PM
How embarrassing to the whole community.
By just breath (82), yuck on Apr 16, 13 6:16 AM
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Carpetbagger from away trying to flip a house, nuff said.
By bigfresh (2901), north sea on Apr 16, 13 6:41 AM
Are we not all carpetbaggers here?

It takes two to tango in the current property dispute.

No resistance? No persistence . . .
By PBR (4803), Southampton on Apr 16, 13 6:58 AM
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as a fan of civil disobedience an unconventional warfare myself, I'd have to wonder about the behavior of the other party involved.

I have heard no mention of the other parties behavior at all...
By Mr. Z (9294), North Sea on Apr 16, 13 8:36 AM
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The only folks not carpetbaggers are the shinnecocks up on the res. to be called a "local" your family must have lived in the Southampton area since 1865.Can you match that?
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 16, 13 2:15 PM
She seems to have lost her mind!
By left eq (23), Southampton on Apr 16, 13 8:09 AM
Why can't people just grow the f up and figure out how to get along?
By firecat911 (8), Hampton Bays on Apr 16, 13 10:47 AM
Unfortunately Cat, this is one of the youngest societies on the planet at less than 300 years, and most people are not so far removed from animals in the primitive emotional behavior they exhibit as they would like to believe.

Me, me, me, mine, mine, mine; no better than a petulant toddler.

The primitive lust for dominance, and power has not left our society's collective psyche.
By Mr. Z (9294), North Sea on Apr 16, 13 12:42 PM
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I would imagine this will end before she stands for re-election. When is that?
By Duckbornandraised (150), Eastport on Apr 16, 13 1:40 PM
And the SURVEY says................ What is right is right. Everybody else has to deal with correct property lines that are on the survey so should B.W. Claiming "eminent domain" or just because I used it in the past does not make a valid legal claim to the land. Makes absolutly no difference whether or not T.G. is going to live there or sell!
By marcd (7), southampton on Apr 16, 13 2:22 PM
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Again, the legal precept that could possibly be invoked here is "adverse possession," and not "eminent domain." But that requires seeking judicial intervention from the NYS Supreme Court, and not a "self-help" remedy. David Buda
By davbud (108), east hampton on Apr 16, 13 3:30 PM
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summertime I can and have the geneology to prove it
By xtiego (592), bridgehampton on Apr 16, 13 4:18 PM
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So do I this posting is fun we might know each other Heavens one wag once told me back in the time of the rail road arrival our gene pool wasn't that big. well sort of. :) Certainly was more neighborly. shared driveways and all.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 17, 13 1:29 PM
My mom always quoted Robert Frost when he penned "The best neighbor is a good fence' just might be accurate here. But seriously Tony G. You bought a house in the village, it's been like that for 60 years and your complaining? You lose nothing! You have a property that you will unload soon because thats the way it is, but Barbara will live here for life, her daughter will grow up in the village
and your complaining about an out of date survey. Make the three and a half foot area in dispute a ...more
By ride the truth wave (125), southampton on Apr 16, 13 8:35 PM
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With all respect to your mom, the line from Frost was: "Good fences make good neighbors."

It's not a matter of who's lived her the longest, but where's the actual property line. I may not like Ms. Wilson's style on the bench, but a correct survey will determine this matter.
By Frank Wheeler (1723), Northampton on Apr 18, 13 10:55 AM
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The funniest thing here is the judge is quoting the penal code, and it doesn't even apply. Firstly 140.05 is a trespassing law that states you knowingly trespass on someone's property. How could Gugliotta trespass on his own property? Wilson might have a right to drive over this section, but it is still Gugliottis property, because he also maintained it. The other law is 140.15 which deals with someone knowingly trespassing in a dwelling. That doesn't even apply here. Funny a judge isn't even sure ...more
By chief1 (2312), southampton on Apr 16, 13 9:33 PM
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Just because you live somewhere and NEVER ADHERED TO THE LAW, doesn't make it OK to say, "heyup, I lived here, nope... nobody said nothing so it's the law, heyup..."
By LI native (125), east moriches on Apr 16, 13 9:37 PM
NEEDS TO BE A SHARED DRIVEWAY, ASK THE TOWN.
By joan s (53), hampton bays on Apr 17, 13 7:47 PM
ACTUALLY ASK THE VILLAGE.
By joan s (53), hampton bays on Apr 17, 13 7:49 PM
I find the fact that the judge is acting in this manner to be entirely reprehensible. As someone who knows and works within the legal system, her actions are infantile and bullying.
By jhoofer (1), los angeles on Apr 19, 13 1:09 PM
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Its a simple case of adverse possession. When Gugliota bought the property, this would have shown up and his lawyer would have asked for a boundry line agreement, as the title wouldnt insure as there would be a potential claim to that part of the property. The Judge isnt above the law and should seek remedy in the courts for her adverse possession lawsuit. That is she and her family have a chain of years of egress over this adjoining lot, and the new owner cannot block their access. It should be ...more
By North Sea Citizen (449), North Sea on Apr 20, 13 7:33 AM
As I said before an up the Island carpetbagger trying to get over on a local. Amazing how so many folks from away move here because they love the place and then try to change it into the very hell hole they moved away from. !1710 good enough?
By bigfresh (2901), north sea on Apr 20, 13 7:58 AM
Big Fresh, 1710? well I guess so perhaps my great great greeted yours and sold him some, what we call wood lots, out in North Sea.... or perhaps you sold in the village and moved out there after prices sky rocketed in late 70's.
So I say hey neighbor this posting is fun!
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 20, 13 1:09 PM
Oh I ment to add, Sorry for Barbara's troubles. And I hope she sticks to lher guns. That ...... from up west newbie should have, and I bet did, know, about the impeidment to the cheap (sorry Barbara) property he wanted to buy. But like all bullies he thought 'what the h...' and went ahead with the deal. Konwing full well what was going to happen. So sure that his $$$ would buy him what he desired at the time. For once I wish the 'local' would win. So sorry that the locals on Wooley Street lost ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 20, 13 1:18 PM
summertime, perhaps we do kow each other. I agree that the Wilson problem as was the Wooley Street high house are village issues that so easily always fall to the one with the $$$.
By xtiego (592), bridgehampton on Apr 20, 13 8:11 PM
Does anyone here remember the Dragonhead house on Dune Road. oops I mean Meadow Lane, ah that sounds better; I mean the house now owned, reportabaly by Calvin Klien? Mr. Barry Trupin decided to really do a tear down and build up, really up, like 40 feet above turret; all without permits! Well, one of the city ladies, back in the day that is what we called them, found out the facts of that deal. This is the difference between Wooley Street and Elm Street. That really angry 'Society' lady carried ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Apr 21, 13 4:37 PM
Back at you neighbor! Trupin's castle was a fiasco from the get go, Calvin's box house isn't as bad but still pretty ugly.
By bigfresh (2901), north sea on Apr 22, 13 6:33 AM
Before the current Southampton Town Justices took office, town justices weren't even lawyers. Their proximate predecessor was a commercial crab fisherman. Expecting them to conduct themselves like "real" judges is foolish.
By highhatsize (3290), East Quogue on Apr 25, 13 6:53 PM