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Jun 20, 2017 12:28 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

MS-13 Has Presence On South Fork, Police Officials Say

Southampton Rotary Club hosted Suffolk County Police Commissioner Timothy Sini at their weekly meeting on Thursday. GREG WEHNER
Jun 21, 2017 10:49 AM

Suffolk County Police Commissioner Timothy Sini’s efforts to take down the notorious gang MS-13 in western portions of Suffolk County may hit a little closer to home on the East End than originally suspected.

During a visit to Southampton Rotary last month, Mr. Sini told Rotary members that there are significant numbers of MS-13 gang members in areas like Central Islip, Brentwood and Greenport—and the gang even has a presence on the South Fork, though its numbers are low.

According to Mr. Sini, roughly 400 members of the gang are located in Suffolk County. Compared with the nearly 1.5 million people who live in Suffolk County, Mr. Sini said the numbers are “not of epidemic proportion.” But he noted that members of the gang have “no regard for human life” and said they engage in violence just for the sake of violence.

“We have to eradicate this gang from our communities,” Mr. Sini said.

MS-13 is the common name of Mara Salvatrucha. According to the FBI website, the gang is made up mostly of Salvadoran nationals or first-generation Salvadoran-Americans, but also includes immigrants from Honduras, Guatemala, Mexico and other Central and South American countries. It has as many as 10,000 members nationwide in at least 42 states and the District of Columbia, according to the FBI.

Mr. Sini, a Democrat who announced his candidacy for Suffolk County district attorney in May, did not return several calls over the past couple of weeks to speak about specific numbers of gang members on the South Fork and where they are located.

Southampton Town Police Chief Steven Skrynecki confirmed on Monday that MS-13 has a presence on the South Fork, particularly in the areas of Riverside, Flanders and Hampton Bays.

Although Chief Skrynecki said he did not have specific numbers, he said his department is currently in the process of ramping up its intelligence and looking to gather information about problem individuals and gangs.

“At this point in time, because this policing strategy is relatively new to this department, I would not want to comment on numbers—but we are aware of the presence,” he said. “This is deserving of much more research.”

Chief Skrynecki said his department is working with police departments in Suffolk County and Nassau County, and the State Police, all sharing data to crack down on MS-13 and other gangs. Mr. Sini said working with other departments is crucial in the eradication of gangs, especially MS-13.

Over the past 30 days, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement worked with Homeland Security, the Suffolk County Police Department, the Nassau County Police Department and the New York City Police Department, among other groups, to crack down on the numbers of gang members on Long Island, according to a press release from ICE.

During those operations, agents arrested 45 individuals who were confirmed members of gangs such as MS-13, the Latin Kings or the 18th Street Gang, the release said, and 33 of those individuals were arrested in Suffolk County alone.

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This is not news. Anybody with their eyes open already knows there has been a presence here for years.
By bird (739), Sag Harbor on Jun 20, 17 4:01 PM
"Compared with the nearly 1.5 million people who live on Long Island.."

This is the number of people in Suffolk, not on Long Island. Minor point.
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Jun 20, 17 4:27 PM
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Indeed, people often erroneously calculate Long Island's population without figuring in Kings and Queens counties. Leaving out Nassau is much less common. An Island is a geographical boundary, States, counties and cities are political. That Kings and Queens counties are part of NYC doesn't affect their geographical location upon Long Island.
By FoReel (18), Hampton Bays on Jun 20, 17 5:22 PM
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By MoronEliminator (158), Montauk on Jun 20, 17 4:37 PM
Wake up Schneiderman before Hampton Bays turns into Brentwood.
By A Great American (58), East Quogue on Jun 20, 17 4:44 PM
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from the looks of all the garbage in the parking lot at the spanish deli next to the movie theater in hampton bays it may be too late!


where is code enforcement ?
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Jun 20, 17 8:25 PM
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Probably doing better detective work than you.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Jun 20, 17 10:09 PM
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By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Jun 21, 17 1:26 AM
Another d*** comment.
By dnice (2341), Hampton Bays on Jun 30, 17 9:41 PM
blame code inforcement lack of doing antything
By rdorf21 (2), hbays on Jul 30, 17 9:00 PM
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By MoronEliminator (158), Montauk on Jun 20, 17 4:56 PM
well we still need to solve the problem locally dude.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (599), southampton on Jun 20, 17 5:02 PM
Too late, A Great American.
By HB90 (154), southampton on Jun 20, 17 6:49 PM
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By HB90 (154), southampton on Jun 20, 17 6:50 PM
Didn't the idiots in Greenport vote themselves a sanctuary city? If so, hope they like the residents they now find themselves surrounded by.
By BillWillConn3 (165), Southampton on Jun 20, 17 9:40 PM
Didn't the idiots in Greenport vote themselves a sanctuary city? If so, hope they like the residents they now find themselves surrounded by.
By BillWillConn3 (165), Southampton on Jun 20, 17 9:42 PM
Sounds like Gangsta Bays is here to stay!
By G (324), Southampton on Jun 21, 17 6:02 AM
Supervisor Schneiderman's administration built a $4 million attractive nuisance so gangs and drug dealers have a meeting place closer to Main Street than Red Creek Park. Except for a few events, that place is going to be a social nightmare. The Town administration has no clue what they are doing. Drain the Swamp is right..
By HB Proud (888), Hampton Bays on Jun 21, 17 7:49 AM
Needle Park.
By A Great American (58), East Quogue on Jun 21, 17 9:34 PM
People are selling crack and heroin in the parking lot of the movie theater in Hampton Bays. This has been going on for years, not days or even months. It seems there is a strong police presence, but I'm not sure why theyou haven't done anything about it. I assume they are afraid of being accused of racial profiling or being labeled racist. However, it is time to take the blinders off and clean up this menace.
By Yamka (12), Southampton on Jun 21, 17 12:06 PM
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I also know this to BE A FACT! So whats up ? WHY IS NOTHING BEING DONE SHPD ???

Dam right I'm pissed off about this!
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 21, 17 9:51 PM
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Sorry for the typo.
By Yamka (12), Southampton on Jun 21, 17 12:07 PM
Well, drug dealers using the park is easily solved by posting some webcams, recording license plates and enforcing registration and insurance laws. It might be good for the police to try that for a day or two and see what they catch. Oh, I forgot, the real problem is people renting their house to yuppies from New York for a week, not 2 weeks -- we need all 8 code enforcement officers at $100k+ per year trolling the internet for the murderous AirBnB gang -- much more important work than monitoring ...more
By davidf (325), hampton bays on Jun 21, 17 12:12 PM
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The Obama administration knowingly let in at least 16 admitted MS-13 gang members who arrived at the U.S. as illegal immigrant teenagers in 2014, a top senator said Wednesday, citing internal documents that showed the teens were shipped to juvenile homes throughout the country.

Sen. Ron Johnson, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, said a whistleblower turned over Customs and Border Protection documents from 2014 detailing the 16 people who were caught crossing the border.
“CBP ...more
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Jun 21, 17 12:56 PM
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Weapons of mass destruction are in HB too! Send in the troops!

Screw both these guys and their rhetoric, and stop lumping Hampton Bays in with Flanders please. 1 stabbing does not equate with a "gang presence" and usually police have evidence of things before they declare something fact, right? Didn't they drop the "gang" charges against that kid? Lol clowns...
By Brandon Quinn (164), Hampton Bays on Jun 21, 17 1:16 PM
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Yo Mr. Angry,

There is gang violence in Hampton Bays and the people responsible enough for addressing the problem with the hopes of fixing it are not clowns. The old you get, the more you will realize you actually do NOT know it all and have a lot to learn. That will only come with maturity.
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Jun 21, 17 1:55 PM
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Right , ignoring it will make it go away. You're ridiculous.
By Sturgis (469), Southampton on Jun 21, 17 5:24 PM
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You're right. Clowns actually WORK.
By deepchanel (65), Southampton on Jun 22, 17 12:15 PM
The police seemed on the spot when Linda Kabot had an extra glass of wine at her sister's birthday party -- maybe they should put a breathalyzer stop at the Dream Nightclub where there is still an unsolved murder hanging over the place. Also nice to hear about the "massage" parlor in the Bar Boy strip mall. Hope the new Southampton Police Chief is up to the task. It's a $30 million/year department or maybe more, maybe some felony arrests instead of ticketing folks for renting their house to ...more
By davidf (325), hampton bays on Jun 21, 17 1:32 PM
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Did they ever approve the Spanish church / (Social club) massive expansion next to the paint store? Across from the massage parlor and next to where the MS 13 stabbing occurred last year. It all so ridiculous and must be stopped.
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 21, 17 9:47 PM
Church ? Hair Salon ? Ya Right that corner as well as the movie theater parking lot is the wild wild West and know one seems to care to do anything about It. WHY?
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Jun 22, 17 11:32 AM
It was an expansion of the parking lot and I think it was stopped. Again, if you want to set up a police stop at that corner and check for legal registrations, matching license plates and paid insurance I think the police will find a number of violators -- then confiscate the vehicles.
By davidf (325), hampton bays on Jun 22, 17 1:21 PM
Is there a legal way a citizen can check registrations and matching license plates, inspections and so on. If so than I volunteer right here and right now! for real

I see these police traffic control trainees all day long in King Kullen and everywhere else in Southampton but never at the bar boy location or the movie theater. Why not is the question. So again i ask, is there an app anyone knows of where i can make citizen vihicle checks ? Can I do this in a leagle manner ?
Jun 22, 17 4:38 PM appended by Ditch Bum
There are also a few locations I would like to do this in southampton and flanders and sag harbor
By Ditch Bum (663), Water Mill on Jun 22, 17 4:38 PM
No.
But! It's perfectly legal to ask the owner of the local businesses that you hire to work on your house, property, pool etc in addition to asking the owners of all of the bars, restaurants, stores that you visit if all of their employees are on the books and accounted for for taxation purposes, you can also ask if all of their employees are legal citizens (they may not know 100%). Either way, the best way to accomplish your goal is to stop hiring people who hire and pay illegal immigrants.

Start ...more
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (599), southampton on Jun 22, 17 5:50 PM
i called to complain abouit iilegals on my beach .and police asked me for id not them
By rdorf21 (2), hbays on Jul 30, 17 9:04 PM
Your beach? Beaches are public - you don't have a beach.

"Illegals?" You can tell that people are "illegal" just by looking at them? With a talent like that, Mr. Trump must have a job for you.
By VOS (1149), WHB on Jul 31, 17 12:08 AM
Police Chief Skrynecki will be making a presentation tonight (Wednesday, June 21st) at the Hampton Bays Fire Department Substation on Ponquogue Avenue. The meeting is open to the public and everyone concerned about Hampton Bays should consider attending.
By G.A.Lombardi (313), Hampton Bays on Jun 21, 17 3:43 PM
thats great but just hearing about it now was it a secret meeting?? WTF??
By CaptainSig (694), Dutch Harbor on Jun 22, 17 7:09 AM
curious to hear if police chief skrynecki addressed any of the above well known issues , i could not make it but would like to hear what transpired?
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Jun 21, 17 10:00 PM
CaptainSag, no secret meeting. It was the monthly HB CAC meeting and we hosted the Police Chief. Chief Skrynecki indicated he is going community to community making presentations. I don't know where he is going next, but I suspect that if you contact him, you can find out. BTW, there were posters all over Main Street, emails were sent out from various community associations in Hampton Bays, it was on Patch and on various social media platforms.
By G.A.Lombardi (313), Hampton Bays on Jun 22, 17 7:43 AM
What did he say? I didn't get this memo in time.
By davidf (325), hampton bays on Jun 22, 17 1:23 PM
SH Town should put out a brochure about dealing with MS-13 and other Latino gang bangers. It could look like the hurricane preparedness one and include helpful information like how to say "please don't stab me" in Spanish.
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Jun 22, 17 8:04 AM
No Answers ? Nothing will change till we start voting the people with no answers out !
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Jun 22, 17 11:28 AM
27dan, the massive expansion by CB's and the Pain Store was for the Rock of Salvation Church and it was approved.
By HB Proud (888), Hampton Bays on Jun 22, 17 2:43 PM
Well that flew under the radar pretty neatly didn't it. Total BS Church my A this place is the next social club how did they get approval to build so close to the road ??? JAY CARE TO EXPLAIN ? we need an act of congress to restore the CPI of put in a billion dolor golf coarse but this abomination slips right on by ?
Jun 22, 17 4:10 PM appended by 27dan
sorry for the errors, i am p off
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 22, 17 4:10 PM
we already have st. rosalie's so why do we need this church ? where is the follow up story about this church? i can only find one story stating the church will need variances and special exceptions from 2015 and now you say it is all done ?

where were all the stories in 27 east like the ones about the hills resort?

there was a gang related stabbing at this corner last year. one does not have to be blind to see what is going on at that corner and the duncan donuts shopping area
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Jun 22, 17 4:57 PM
This expansion flew under the radar is right...Zoning Board of Appeals approved all of the variances about a year ago - maybe afraid of being called "racists" - who knows. This size project, Church or not, would never have been approved anywhere else in the Town of Southampton. Where were all the environmentalists since this is a environmentally sensitive site? Everyone is so afraid of not being PC, they are selling their souls and the future of Hampton Bays.
By HB Proud (888), Hampton Bays on Jun 22, 17 6:06 PM
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I would love to hear someone step up to the plate and explain how this could have happened... this should not have been allowed to proceed. I have looked into this and the town may be open to getting sued on this one
Jun 22, 17 9:42 PM appended by joe hampton
this church is being used as a Trojan horse and the county thinks they are cute... the question is why has the town allowed this to slide on through ? Anyone ?
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Jun 22, 17 9:42 PM
If we let the town get away with this it will seal hampton bays fate for good, have you ever seen a church go out of business.

i have looked up this brand of church and the kind of nieborhoods they are located in. it is not a preety picture.

people of hampton bays we have been SCREWED OVER!

how could this have happened? is there anything we can do Joe, HB?
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Jun 22, 17 10:00 PM
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Don't have a clue what we could do - would love to know how a church that supposedly helps the poor can afford such a tremendous expansion. Where does the money come from? What do they do with their vans during the week? Are the furnishing laborers? I believe the Town Administration purposely keeps Hampton Bays down.
By HB Proud (888), Hampton Bays on Jun 22, 17 10:58 PM
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Last year a welfare motel full of section eight cases now this ? would this be allowed on hill street ?
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 22, 17 11:19 PM
Theres always channel 12 News, Newsday or NY Post ( Post prints stories that local papers wont ) Tip them off. Invite them to a peaceful protest/rally.....from all of your comments it certainly sounds like the decent HB's residents need to be heard on the BS that going on!
By toes in the water (708), southampton on Jun 23, 17 6:45 AM
I thought folks spoke out against it at the zoning hearing -- and got glared at by the church officials for their effort, nothing like a little non-verbal intimidation. As for churches, once that church on Ponquogue opened and stayed open despite zero permits that was it -- first amendment protection of religion etc. If you want to push back the way to do it is by having the police impound cars that lack proper registration, insurance and inspection stickers. That will clear many parking lots. ...more
By davidf (325), hampton bays on Jun 23, 17 10:08 AM
The graffiti you see in Hampton Bays is all gang related. When some tags are crossed out with spray paint that is a signal which means there is a claim on a rival's territory and that a challenge for it is set to begin. Steer clear of that zone until the shooting is over.

If you see any graffiti on a street sign it means that the gang has claimed your neighborhood.

These items could be in the brochure.
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Jun 23, 17 7:02 AM
i would call the post or start a peaceful protest but i am afraid to get in the middle of somthing like even just wrote about shooting.

I saw something yesterday by ram pasture were a man on a skateboard wearing a bandanna flashed a gang sign at a passing car. made me really think what is going on around town. i know some of you will say there is nothing to worry about but my kids tell me it is all over the schools. Is this true?
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Jun 23, 17 7:44 AM
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What's in the schools is heroin dealers posing as wrestling coaches. Did that crime ever get adjudicated? Where did the coach buy the drugs? Ask the new chief why the easiest place to buy drugs is the high school -- and then ask why we pay $40,000 per child per year to have them exposed to this sort of criminal activity?
By davidf (325), hampton bays on Jun 23, 17 10:12 AM
Erin, completely understandable that you wouldn't want to put yourself in the middle of a situation like this. As well as having reason to worry. The fact that the Press has printed this article is a positive though , and with the informative comments added in, it brings even more attention to the whats really going on in HB
By toes in the water (708), southampton on Jun 23, 17 4:07 PM
One can also tell if gangs are present by the graffiti they create. It can sometimes be found on the back of business buildings, in alleyways, on the back of street signs, on sidewalks, on large and small metal trash containers, and on utility-type poles. If the gang thinks it dominates an area, the graffiti may be more conspicuously placed such as on the front of a building at a major intersection or on the corner mailbox. There are as many places to post graffiti as there are flat surfaces.


Physical ...more
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Jun 23, 17 8:23 AM
Great share even flow!!! This is absolutely what the Town should be putting in a brochure , as you suggested !!
By toes in the water (708), southampton on Jun 23, 17 4:15 PM
Yes, right next to the parable about what happens to a town if you let the proprietor of the local Dinner turn it into a Spanish night club!

By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Jun 23, 17 9:26 PM
Not an I told you so, But this is exactly why you should have and still should incorporate people of Hampton Bays. You have nicer water front than any other Hampton. But the town wants you to be there servant quarters! I say to hell with that and take control of you own destiny already! Its painful to watch what they don't do for you and Flanders!

Stop worrying about your property taxes going up before you land is worth half of what it should be!
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Jun 23, 17 9:23 PM
Property taxes go up because of the schools. $40.000 per kid per year, they don't get into the good universities, there are heroin dealers on the high school grounds, and the school board thinks it's doing a great job. Keep up the good work everyone!
By dfree (615), hampton bays on Jun 24, 17 8:30 AM
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It is extremely dangerous in the Hamptons. I am so worried when I leave the keys in my running car as I go to 7 eleven every day. It is so scary to leave my doors unlocked when I'm not at home. The crime here in the Hamptons is terrible. The drive by shootings in Bridgehampton is terrible. Is is so dangerous here I'm afraid to go out at night. All of the gang warfare every night keeps me from sleeping. I go to the grocery store and expect my BMW with the keys in the ignition to be stolen by the ...more
By deelove (133), Bridgehampton on Jun 24, 17 5:03 PM
So what is your agenda?
By SlimeAlive (1033), Southampton on Jun 25, 17 7:22 AM
She told you her agenda to make your town equal to Bell port, Mastic and Selden then everything will be equal and fair
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Jun 25, 17 3:29 PM
The mafia and the Klu Klux Klan is on the south fork too. Old people in East Hampton cause more trouble than MS13 on the south fork. This is a non issue.
By deelove (133), Bridgehampton on Jun 24, 17 5:06 PM
I am sure there were people like you that had their head in the sand in Brentwood a few years ago. Are yo seriously comparing old people in East Hampton to machete carrying gang members who rape and kill just because they can?
By HB Proud (888), Hampton Bays on Jun 24, 17 9:55 PM
Right deelove because the Klu Klux Klan are everywhere you look around here. Feels more like the Wu Tang Clan lately

"Old people in East Hampton cause more trouble than MS13 on the south fork. This is a non issue." Really ? Please explain to us what trouble old people from East Hampton cause " ?




By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Jun 25, 17 3:34 PM
Its not just killers it classless trash that is starting to feel very comfortable here. As far as the Spanish go the parents are hard working church goers there children are the problem
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Jun 24, 17 10:56 PM
ud even if they are hard workers there are just to dam many they do not seem to want to assimilate and they put multiple family's in single family homes. this needs to stop and if these town officials cant do it we need to vote them OUT! What happened to the concerned citizens of hampton bays ?
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Jun 24, 17 11:24 PM
Read Chief Skryneckis comments in the article carefully. He is basically saying that the STPD, before his arrival, was doing nothing about this problem- not collecting intelligence, not taking any action, not doing what a responsible police dept should do. Who is responsible for intelligence/investigation in the STPD ?? Asleep at the wheel. We finally have a professional at the helm of the PD- there is hope.
By CaptainSig (694), Dutch Harbor on Jun 27, 17 7:09 AM
Don't get your hopes up he knows zero about Southampton Town.
By chief1 (2579), southampton on Jun 27, 17 5:56 PM
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Which is a good thing in this case. Drain the swamp
By CaptainSig (694), Dutch Harbor on Jun 28, 17 6:46 AM
BUILD THE WALL!!!!
By HaMpToNzSukS (12), east quogue on Jun 29, 17 8:45 PM
Build the wall in the middle of the pine barrens complete with a 10 dollar toll and a drivers license check point in between the Manorville and West Hampton exit

Make the Hamptons Great Again !
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 29, 17 9:15 PM
You would need a second one at the Duck and a third at Beaverdam pond

I LIKE IT !
By Ditch Bum (663), Water Mill on Jun 29, 17 9:19 PM
Good borders make great neighbors.
By SlimeAlive (1033), Southampton on Jun 30, 17 8:30 AM
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