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Feb 13, 2018 10:36 AMPublication: The East Hampton Press & The Southampton Press

Southampton Boys Basketball Ready For Playoffs After Hectic Week Marked By Post-Game Brawl

Micah Snowden takes a technical foul free throw for the Mariners after multiple fouls were called on Wyandanch in the waning seconds a game on February 6. Multiple fights broke out afterwards and police had to be called to the school.  MICHELLE MALONE MICHELLE MALONE
Feb 13, 2018 2:05 PM

Post-game brawls; a playoff-clinching victory; a tough road loss.

Last week was a hectic one for the Southampton boys basketball team, but as the dust settled, one thing was sure: the Mariners are indeed heading back to the Suffolk County Class A postseason. That was due to an 80-74 victory over Wyandanch on February 6, a game that grabbed local and regional headlines due to the multiple fights that occurred directly following the game.

Referring to the game as “physical and highly intense,” Southampton Schools Superintendent Dr. Nicholas Dyno said, in a statement released the day after, that the drama started when a Wyandanch player was ejected in the fourth quarter and four Warriors coaches received technical fouls and then refused to leave the court, which prompted a decision by the referees to end the game early with 26 seconds left.

“Our security personnel were on-site and were able to calm the situation within less than five minutes,” the letter, sent the next day, stated. “However, due to the nature of the situation and for the safety of our students, staff and spectators, police were called. There were no major injuries and all students are in school this morning.”

But according to a release that was sent out on Friday by the Southampton Village Detective Division, there were multiple injuries. According to that release, Southampton Village Police arrived at Southampton High School at approximately 7:58 p.m. after receiving multiple 9-1-1 calls of a large group of people fighting in the school’s gym. Upon arrival, the release said, members from the Wyandanch team and their spectators became involved in multiple fights with spectators from Southampton. Security, staff and coaching personnel from Southampton were able to restore order as police arrived on the scene. The incident lasted approximately 15 to 20 minutes.

Detectives asked that anyone who may have video footage of the incident to forward it to them and anyone with additional information to call Southampton Village Police at (631) 283-0056.

The district added that the high school administration and personnel reviewed security footage and other available video, which was not shared with anyone due to students’ privacy laws that prevent them from doing so. No disciplinary action was taken at the time the letter was released, but as investigation of the incident continues, disciplinary action could be taken if warranted, the letter said.

Herm Lamison, who is both the varsity boys basketball head coach and Detective Sergeant of the Southampton Village Police Detective Division, described the scene following his team’s game as “chaotic,” but said that the altercation happened after the game was called. In fact, his players were in the locker room when multiple fights broke out in the gym, he said.

“Both teams had already shook hands as we addressed sportsmanship—some kids embraced each other,” he said. “It was in the locker room with my players that I was alerted that there were multiple fights and, once my kids are safe, I have to turn my attention and run the criminal investigation and try to restore order and settle things down as best we can.

“None of my players were involved in the fights. They were in the locker room,” Lamison confirmed. “There were Wyandanch players involved in the fights.”

Lamison also pointed out that none of his players were given technical fouls during the game.

After reviewing the current footage he has, Lamison said it appeared that Wyandanch spectators and a few players charged across the gym from where their fan section and team bench was located and became entangled in fights near the exit of the gym. Lamison said that he knows of two people who were taken to the hospital by private vehicle due to the altercation.

“We are seeking people with cell phone video, or from any other recording device, because we do have multiple complainants who received injuries, and if we identify the individuals who caused those injuries, those individuals could be charged,” he explained. As to whether or not racial epithets were said before or during the incident, as some media outlets have reported, that has yet to be determined, Lamison said.

“I haven’t seen any indication of that. I don’t know where that’s coming from,” he said. “I can’t control how people deal with the information that’s in front of them. We deal with facts. We don’t work with anything beyond the facts.”

Lamison said on Monday morning that the investigation his detective unit is in charge of is still active but no arrests have been made yet.

As far as his basketball players, since they were not involved in the fights, they are physically and emotionally okay, although they did suffer a 76-64 loss at Bayport/Blue Point on Thursday, February 8. They rebounded from that loss nicely with a 49-36 victory at Shoreham/Wading River on Monday night to finish the season with a 9-7 League VI record (11-8 overall).

Southampton and Mount Sinai finished with identical 9-7 records, and despite defeating the Mustangs in both league games this season, the Mariners were seeded ninth and had to play at Mt Sinai on Wednesday in an outbracket game. Lamison was unsure exactly why his team was given the higher seed forcing his team to play on the road.

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“Our security personnel were on-site and were able to calm the situation within less than five minutes,” 50 seconds of violence can feel like an hour. Did this really go on for 5 minutes? youtube clip?
By thepresssucks (21), watermill on Feb 7, 18 3:56 PM
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By SlimeAlive (975), Southampton on Feb 7, 18 7:30 PM
Is that a fact, or is it supposed to be a joke?

Hope you feel good picking on teenagers.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4178), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 7, 18 7:36 PM
Not a joke. They weren't teenagers.
By SlimeAlive (975), Southampton on Feb 8, 18 7:11 AM
From the body that regulates High School sports in our area:

"A student shall be eligible for interschool competition...until his/her nineteenth birthday."

If you believe Wyandanch is flouting the rules, please bring it up with Section XI or nysphsaa.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4178), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 8, 18 7:20 AM
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Yeah but they're loaded up with 19 year old freshman.
By pw herman (1136), southampton on Feb 9, 18 9:15 PM
"until his/her nineteenth birthday" means once they turn 19 they're ineligible. The full rule is: "A student shall be eligible for interschool competition until his/her 19th birthday. If the age of 19 years is reached on or after July 1st, the student may continue to participate in all sports for that year if the student is not in the 5th year of High School."

To your credit, there are waivers in place for kids who lost a year of eligibility for illness, accident, or other circumstances ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4178), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 9, 18 9:23 PM
It's better to spread fake news, isn't it slimey.
By tenn tom (199), remsenburg on Feb 8, 18 7:24 AM
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By toes in the water (684), southampton on Feb 8, 18 8:08 AM
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Only have 4 years of eligibility and age. Can't drop out and come back at 22.
Many teenagers have children early and some marry...
By knitter (1482), Southampton on Feb 8, 18 8:13 AM
Upon reading the first paragraph of this article, it gave me the impression that the fight broke out on the court among the players . Maybe the staff writer could take that small insert of “ the Wyandanch Fans initiated the fight” an include that in the first paragraph. Also, were any of the players actually involved in the fight? And if this all happened within 5 mins, no injuries reported an security personnel on site, was there actually a physical alercation? Or did security prevent ...more
By toes in the water (684), southampton on Feb 8, 18 8:52 AM
See the newly added video yet?

Now I'm wondering if anyone left in handcuffs...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4178), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 8, 18 1:02 PM
Video answers my questions clarifies the intensity of the fight. Such as shame the final moments of the game came down to this.

There’s long standing tension between Wyandanch an SH
By toes in the water (684), southampton on Feb 8, 18 6:48 PM
Makes sense.They wont release information to the public about ut the financial settlements they reach with departed administrators, so they should not release videos about students that are minors either.
By Toma Noku (616), Southampton on Feb 8, 18 1:52 PM
Is that the same security we see while voting?
By knitter (1482), Southampton on Feb 8, 18 3:17 PM
Yes Knitter, do you know them?
By guest (63), Bridgehampton on Feb 8, 18 8:52 PM
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By bird (721), Sag Harbor on Feb 8, 18 9:08 PM
What does that have to do with this incident?
By guest (63), Bridgehampton on Feb 8, 18 10:42 PM
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By toes in the water (684), southampton on Feb 9, 18 9:00 AM
We went to Wyandanch to play them in football in the late 80’s, i think my sophomore year. We lost the game badly. As we were leaving town on the school buses we had a brick thrown at our bus and a window shattered. One of our players was struck by the broken glass. They think they are tough over there in the whinedanch, some things never change...
By icecreamman (395), Southampton on Feb 9, 18 9:46 AM
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By mtkfishman (53), montauk on Feb 9, 18 1:14 PM
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By thepresssucks (21), watermill on Feb 9, 18 3:10 PM
These games have been tense for years. Why would they not have additional security, just to be safe...
By knitter (1482), Southampton on Feb 9, 18 6:05 PM
Both Districts had safety staff on hand. The one thing no one can control is the emotions and anger from others. It is an unfortunate incident and some people will have to take responsibility for their actions.
By guest (63), Bridgehampton on Feb 9, 18 10:23 PM
Nice, then the detective coach can qualify the games as police work.
By Mouthampton (409), Southampton on Feb 9, 18 7:00 PM
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By bigfresh (3742), north sea on Feb 9, 18 10:49 PM
My recent comment about there being tension between these 2 schools for reason was not inappropriate. Really SH Press? Really?

SHADE
By toes in the water (684), southampton on Feb 10, 18 7:28 AM
Oops, I meant ... There’s been tension between these 2 schools for years
By toes in the water (684), southampton on Feb 10, 18 7:29 AM
The adults fought. Not the students.
By SlimeAlive (975), Southampton on Feb 10, 18 8:04 AM
Wyandanch - the Un-Hampton !!!!!!
By pw herman (1136), southampton on Feb 10, 18 9:16 AM
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By bigfresh (3742), north sea on Feb 10, 18 10:37 AM
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Violent, out of control, instigating, and mean-spirited are all more accurate adjectives that don't have subhuman connotations.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4178), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 10, 18 10:41 AM
As a Police Department Detective you should have known better than to allow the criminal element that resides in Wyandanch to even enter the town limits let alone interact with the students of Southampton. It's equivalent to sending Mormon Boys to the South Bronx. Think I'm wrong? Think I'm racist? It's merely the truth and the video simply backs up my statement. Who cares about these leagues and their rules, its a game. There are more than enough local schools to compete with. Taxpayers should ...more
By DisgustedHamptons (41), Hampton Bays on Feb 13, 18 4:37 AM
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So what're you suggesting, that all members of a particular town be stopped at the SHT border and refused entry?
Feb 13, 18 7:23 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I probably don't have to point out how ridiculous that is, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4178), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 13, 18 7:23 AM
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That's a great idea! Perhaps the US Boarder Patrol and ICE should set up one of those checkpoints on 27 out in the Pine Barrens - just like they have on I-10 down south!
OK Folks I'm being ridiculous to convey my point...
If you KNOW that there is a decades long problem when ever these schools get together for sporting events - WHY IN GODS NAME WOULD YOU ALLOW THIS STUPIDITY TO CONTINUE??? For a sport? A title? School 'spirit'??? When a student or adult 'fan' wind up stabbed or shot and ...more
By DisgustedHamptons (41), Hampton Bays on Feb 14, 18 1:38 AM
So thankfully your first idea wasn't genuine...do you have any real suggestions?

Perhaps we can provide a greater police presence? Or exercise more scrutiny at the door? Should everyone get patted down, or just non-locals? Why not just ban the fans from rivalry games altogether?

There's upsides and downsides to all of these. What has zero upside is ridiculous suggestions.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4178), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 14, 18 9:33 PM
Why not build a wall around the town?
By tenn tom (199), remsenburg on Feb 13, 18 7:17 AM
Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers or viewers as a sincere expression of the parodied views.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4178), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 13, 18 7:27 AM
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I was being sarcastic peewee
By tenn tom (199), remsenburg on Feb 13, 18 3:42 PM