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Oct 7, 2009 1:21 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Kabot's proposed $78 million budget will eliminate 48 town jobs next year

Oct 7, 2009 1:21 PM

Forty-eight town employees will lose their jobs next year under Southampton Town Supervisor Linda Kabot’s proposed $78.8 million budget, and the moves are expected to save the cash-strapped town nearly $3 million.

Ms. Kabot’s spending plan is 4.5 percent below the current year’s budget of $82.5 million. It proposes an additional $1.5 million in cuts to materials, consultants and programming and includes the elimination of $1 million in spending on the Southampton Town Animal Shelter, which would receive no funding in 2010.

But the proposal still will raise the town property tax rate by 5 percent next year, the limit under town law. The town raised the tax rate by 5 percent last year as well. Additionally, Ms. Kabot is seeking an amendment to the town’s tax cap legislation that would create a separate line on town tax bills for paying off an estimated $10 million capital fund deficit.

Such drastic changes are needed, Ms. Kabot said, to pay off multimillion-dollar deficits in the town’s police, highway and waste management funds.

“This was a very big boulder to roll up a very high mountain,” Ms. Kabot said.

If approved, the supervisor’s budget would raise the town tax rate by 6 cents, from $1.32 to $1.38 per $1,000 of assessed valuation next year, according to town officials. A taxpayer whose home is assessed at $500,000 would see his or her annual tax bill increase about $30, from $660 this year to $690 next year.

Southampton Town Public Transportation Director Thomas Neely, who makes $80,000 a year and has been employed by the town since January 2005, is among the town employees whose jobs are on the cutting block. If the spending plan is approved, Mr. Neely, who has two sons attending college, will be laid off next year, and his secretary will be transferred to the highway department.

“I think it’s clearly disappointing on a personal level,” Mr. Neely said. “On a professional level, I am concerned that it devalues the projects in the areas that I get involved with.”

But Mr. Neely is not alone. His position is one of 48 that will be eliminated under Ms. Kabot’s proposed budget to help offset declining mortgage tax revenues, which are expected to swoon to a $5.5 million low next year after reaching heights of nearly $13 million in 2006. Ms. Kabot said $3 million would be saved by the layoffs.

“I proposed a plan that is honest and balanced and is the best I can do under the circumstances,” Ms. Kabot said. “To do any more than what we already did would be with a heavy heart.”

The proposed layoffs also include Housing Director John White, who at around 5:30 p.m. on Tuesday was busy shuttling back and forth between his office and the Human Services Department in Town Hall. Though his position was identified as one of the 48 jobs to be cut next year, Mr. White hoped it will be salvaged.

“I have no intention of leaving,” Mr. White said.

Disagreement remains over salary raises and other concessions for union employees. Ms. Kabot said she hopes the Southampton Patrolman’s Benevolent Association (PBA) and Civil Service Employee Association (CSEA) will accept concessions that she is proposing, including one week’s lag pay, no salary increases for next year and an early retirement scheme targeting at least 40 senior employees.

Lagging pay by one week could free about $1 million for 2010 by deferring payments to future years, Ms. Kabot said. The early retirement plan, which offers $500 for every year the retiree was employed by the town, could cost the town as much as $350,000 up front, but save millions in the long run, Ms. Kabot said.

The Town Board is expected to amend and approve the budget before November 20.

But union officials said they will oppose the concessions.

Southampton PBA President Patrick Aubé at a meeting on Friday argued against instituting lag payroll and forgoing longevity pay. Deferring a week’s salary under a lag payroll program, Mr. Aubé said, would only end with the town paying more than what is 
already owed to workers due to cost 
of living adjustments on those payments.

The PBA, which has been working without a contract since 2008, is currently in contract arbitration with the town in hopes of reaching a settlement.

“This scheme only serves one purpose and that is to put the burden on the taxpayers in 2011,” Mr. Aubé said of lag pay. “There is no savings for the municipality unless it involves other mechanisms. In addition, the concept of laying off workers fails all aspects of Management 101.”

CSEA President Pete Collins argued that elected officials should forfeit chunks of their salaries rather than freezing the salaries of union employees. Elected officials are expected to accept no salary increases for next year.

“I have a [CSEA] contract that expires at the end of the year,” Mr. Collins said. “I am not opening up this contract ... We will stand fast.”

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Good job, Linda... I've really changed my mind about you to the positive side. We need these cuts.
By deKooning (84), southampton on Oct 7, 09 1:00 PM
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You wouldnt be saying good job Linda if it were you getting fired from your job at the hands of her financial mismanagement. You say she has changed your mind. She is punishing 50 families and thats what chenged you mind. Its easy to strike a line through fifty names to save the Town money. Its not easy to be creative enough to save these jobs and find an alternative for tax savings. She took the easy way out. She always does when times get tough. She did her best, but she is over heard head. ...more
By rocky (79), shampton on Oct 7, 09 1:40 PM
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Agreed. This is the easy way out, but it will appease her base who hate unions and could care less about helping out troubled youth. It is nothing more than an indiscriminate hatchet job by one of the people responsible for the town's financial mess. Time to go, Linda.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 7, 09 3:12 PM
Where we are now, Kabot has become the candidate for change. I, a democrat, am not happy about her history of mismanagement either, nor of the suffering that it entails. But this latest development has strongly positive long-term potential for our town... lets support it. Let bygons by bygons and think about the future... If for no other reason, do it for the town's families.
By deKooning (84), southampton on Oct 7, 09 4:55 PM
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The financial mismanagement took place long before Kabot's arrival on the scene- she jjust had the misfortune of being in office when the problems came to light. The Police do a good job but no one else I know of gets lump sum payments for unused sick time. In this day and age it's ridiculous for someone with a HS diploma (current new hires must now have college) to be getting $100K+ checks on the day they retire, plus 75% of regular pay, plus social security. Do you get that? The police comp ...more
By Funbeer (206), Southampton on Oct 7, 09 8:33 PM
You're joking, right.
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 7:59 AM
As someone who has little regard for Ms Kabot on several professional levels, she deserves thanks from every Southampton taxpayers for showing guts and a strength of character by tackling a thankless situation. Bravo, Ms. Kabot for once you've stepped up to the plate and handled the problem in the only manner available.

It is disappointing that several years of mismanagement by past and present Town officials (including Ms Kabot) means a loss of employment for 48 families. It did not have ...more
By JimmyKBond (151), Hampton Bays on Oct 8, 09 3:25 PM
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this is a political pro-Kabot campaign comment and has no basis in fact. Kabot has been part of the leadership of this town for many many years and yes, she was in a position to vote on, and approve, past budgets. Simple as that, she is responsible for the financial chaos and $10 million screw up as are the rest of the members of the past and present administrations (dept heads included).
By JimmyKBond (151), Hampton Bays on Oct 8, 09 3:38 PM
False, False, False.
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 4:36 PM
My "false" comment was meant in response to Funbeer's ludicrous assertion that the mismanagement happened more than 13 years ago and is just now coming to the forefront. Hah!
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 4:38 PM
Really?? what's the degree requirement for town supervisor?? and how much does she make a year?? Our police officers deserve every penny they get, how about making some other cuts? Like the $$10,000 carpet ms. kabot needed in her office?? no, that was probably necessary. ya right!! find more BS expenses like that and cut them! not the pay of our officers who take drunk drivers like ms.kabot off the road!!!
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 4:51 PM
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What? No altercations with any audience members? Disappointing. Maybe she can pick another fight with that dog in town hall.
By littleplains (305), olde england on Oct 7, 09 1:05 PM
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Another 5% increase in property taxes ? !!! Jeez ! I feel sorry for the animal shelter.
By PrivateerMatt (390), Weesuck Creek , EQ on Oct 7, 09 1:19 PM
How about we get ride of Bill Jones and keep the youth bureau open longer. We have a better chance of those kids dong something positive for the town then Bill Jones doing it.....
By farmlocal (83), Southampton on Oct 7, 09 1:26 PM
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What a shame that a community as wealthy as ours cannot find a way to protect and care for the animals at the animal shelter. Our fiscal problems, which were caused by mismanagement need to be solved not on the backs of hard working employees and helpless animals (who of course don't vote).
By sunshine (47), southampton on Oct 7, 09 1:33 PM
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Actually this might be a very good thing for the animals! Politicians are not the ones that should be running the animal shelter in the first place. It should be people who care about the animals that have no polital agenda. And hopefully this will happen if they allow the shelter to privatize. I know I'll be back there in a heartbeat to help!
By animalcaregiver (14), sag harbor on Oct 8, 09 3:50 PM
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There seems to be more concern over animals than there is over humans....48 people losing their jobs? Their bills/mortgage/expenses mounting? Pretty soon the Town, and as extension, the economy, is going to need a re-boot. But what about the animals?
By cat (18), Riverhead on Oct 7, 09 1:38 PM
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Taxes will have to be raised the maximum amount for the next couple of years until an equilibrium is found. Of course this is not the sexy thing to say, but the town has been run into the ground by expanding on its excess funds from mortgage tax revenues with deaprtments not being properly monitored. The town should be run on its base tax and any extra resulting taxes collected should be utilized to build reserves and pay off debt. Time for a new managment team.....Get out and vote!
By North Sea Citizen (454), North Sea on Oct 7, 09 1:55 PM
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This is all that needs to be said
By JohnnyH (1), Westhampton on Oct 7, 09 3:30 PM
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The PBA President is wrong - the payroll lag will be repaid as employees leave service, and since they do not leave all at once the additional cost is spread out over many years; its cost is minimal in any given budget year.
This I think is the best Ms. Kabot can do and I sincerely hope the layoffs can be avoided and the unions agree to the concessions; outside of the layoffs these are pretty soft concessions given the times.
By North of Highway (278), Westhampton Beach on Oct 7, 09 2:04 PM
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While it is unfortunate that many people will lose their jobs, I applaud the efforts to keep the budget in check.

And even with these cuts, the budget still goes up 5%.

Note to all politicians........how about a zero percent increase next year!

By C Law (310), Water Mill on Oct 7, 09 2:13 PM
Union leaders like their jobs - they also like to keep them - so it boils down to do I accept these concessions and have my members angry at me and vote me out of office or do I have fewer non-affected members and take the layoffs?
There was a round of layoffs in New York City in 1991 in the Dinikins Administration and I was involved in negotiations with the civilian unions on similar issues like givebacks to save jobs. Every union but one (a union made up of middle managers) opted out and took ...more
By North of Highway (278), Westhampton Beach on Oct 7, 09 2:23 PM
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Reads like Linda has a winning election stragtery with this budget. Four more years with Linda Kabot.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Oct 7, 09 2:57 PM
Cuts in the youth bureau? Are you kidding? Hey Linda, the boulder might be too big to push up the mountain, but you spent the last 13 years increasing its size. This is nothing more than a gimmick to appease blood thirsty republican voters and deflect your DWI charge. Our fiscal problems are the result of criminal mismanagement of which Linda played a huge role, to say she is the right person to fix it is sheer lunacy!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 7, 09 3:08 PM
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GWI, Governing While Intoxicated
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Oct 7, 09 3:15 PM
There are too many unnecessary job positions in the Town and way too significant pay raises. So I support her proposal. And before you ask, yes I DO know what its like to be unemployed in the past so I can empathize. But sometimes it has to be done. NOW the Animal Shelter is another story. They cant receive unemployment or look for a job elsewhere. So are they going to make it on donations alone??? Im going to voice my opinion to Linda in an email right now.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 7, 09 4:02 PM
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Cutting jobs is always a hard choice. But if you have 10 building inspectors that used to handle 1000 permits a year, and now you only have 500 permits (fictitous numbers), what do you do?

I'm all for reallocating staff to departments that are short-staffed, but at some point there just isn't enough work to employ everyone and carry them through this time.

If the union can make concessions, wherein the Town can continue employment of everybody at the same, or close to the same, ...more
By diy_guy (101), Southampton on Oct 7, 09 4:03 PM
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What I'd like the Town to consider is a re-deployment plan for anyone laid off. New York did that in the early 1990's. Vacanies that need to be filled will periodically happen, you can never have a total wage freeze as there are some positions that just need to be filled. A reployment plan will at least give these employees some shot of getting a position. It may not be their original job, it may not be the same pay, but their previous work years will carry over for any seniority, that is no break ...more
By North of Highway (278), Westhampton Beach on Oct 7, 09 5:07 PM
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Rocky: EVERYONE across the U.S. is or has been getting laid off, why should the Town be any different? You cant blame Linda- thats really stretching it and while youre at it why dont you blame her for the war in Iraq too! It has even hit a couple of local churches around here and most people would think that churches would be more benevolent than that than to cut your food source, but no one WANTS to do it- it HAS to be done. Yes, it sucks. But theres really no blame to pinpoint.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 7, 09 5:45 PM
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u have to roll department heads and send the rest to other departments like east hampton is going to do now they have mcguilty off the pay roll.your going to have all these employees laid off collecting government services soon.
By asurest (117), easthampton on Oct 7, 09 6:33 PM
How is it that Southampton Town has four Justices??? Do you all remember last year when we found out that when the fouth Justice was added no new court time was added? Has more trials been added? Do we even need a fourth Justice??
Maybe we could do some cutting there.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 7, 09 7:34 PM
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Yes the justice court now offers night court, but very few people opt to go to night court, the majority still opt to go during the day.
By ridiculous (214), hampton bays on Oct 8, 09 8:39 AM
why is this so controversial? The economy is crap, and people get fired. What more is there to talk about? (Too bad they cant fire all those cops making $100k a year to give seatbelt tickets all day)
By nicole (96), Hampton Bays on Oct 7, 09 7:36 PM
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This is what happens when one crowd stays in power for too long -- they get comfortable, they get cozy, they get careless with our money. In this case, the Southampton Republicans' carelessness was monumental, ignoring the most basic rules of prudent accounting and management. What's really unfortunate is that it's the little people who will pay the price -- low-level Town employees who are losing their jobs, and already-struggling taxpayers who will have to shoulder higher property taxes to fill ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Oct 7, 09 10:04 PM
Agreed!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 9:23 AM
The Town does not need to cut ANY money from Animal Control or to fire ANY employees because of budget restrictions. $3.6M is available that could make both these steps unnecessary. The proposed budget allocates it to the STPD.

Under the terms of his contract, an STPD officer acknowledges that his employment will terminate with his retirement after twenty years of service. This has always been the policy of the Town. The very first contract that an officer signs with the Town contains ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Oct 8, 09 12:56 AM
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another senseless comment from someone who so dislikes law enforcement and has so little comprehension of the Town budget ... sad, very sad
By JimmyKBond (151), Hampton Bays on Oct 8, 09 3:28 PM
What are you hiding under that high hat?
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 6:37 PM
Whats wrong with laying off these over paid workers? Ask the local lumber yards,electricians, plumbers and stores how many they let go this past year,I'm sure the number is way over than what the town is going to do. Let's be real !
By nurse (53), sag harbor on Oct 8, 09 2:14 AM
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How quick everyone is to call for the loss of someone else's job.
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 8:01 AM
Why should taxpayers fund an over-bloated bureaucracy? Not only do we fund them we suffer the consequences of doing so.

The building department is terribly overstaffed, the deputy supervisor is an oxymoron, the housing and transportation directors are a joke, there are far too many lawyers on the payroll, the list goes on and on.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 9:15 AM
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No one is "quick" to see a family lose their job ... nor the accompanying discomfort that comes with a loss of income. However look across America in every small town and village --- millions have lost their jobs in a horrible economy (thanks to the legacy of G W Bush)!

Only on Long Island is it expected that the government (taxpayers) gives the population more jobs than the private sector here -- it's true government (taxpayers) at all levels on Long Island is the source of more jobs than ...more
By JimmyKBond (151), Hampton Bays on Oct 8, 09 3:34 PM
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So lets take away from the children of the town who already do not have much. Why slash YARD programs. I haven't heard Linda saying anything about cutting department head salaries. Does Bill Jones really need to be getting paid as Deputy Supervisor and Human Service Director? Why not cut there are cut into Richard Blowes salary. It seems that the children and the hard working blue collar worker are the ones that always take the blame for someone in managements mistakes.
By favaunt (24), Sag Harbor on Oct 8, 09 8:06 AM
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You Kabot supporters sure know how to spin a story. How long has Linda been on the town board? 13 years? So after thirteen years of mismanagement and nearly criminal fiscal neglect Linda says, "I am going to fix it" and she pulls out her hatchet and starts swinging. It is always those on the lower rungs that are the victims of the failure of leadership at the top.

The best place to start is with Linda's position. Get rid of her and then fix her mess.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 8:07 AM
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Her own party rejected her twice - first with Heaney and then this year. The PBA has endorsed ATH - doesn't that tell you something? More of the same.
By North of Highway (278), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 8:26 AM
I can't believe how some of you would put the animal shelter in front of a family. You do realize that most of those animals have been abandoned because their owners can no longer take care of them or they have bittten someone. If your soooo concerned about animal shelter then fund it with your own money so we the taxpayers can use tax dollars for what it is intended for. FAMILIES not animals.
By lifesaver (108), speonk on Oct 8, 09 8:44 AM
Their owners can no longer take care of them because they've lost their jobs ...
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 9:05 AM
It is not about putting animals in front of families. It is about concern for both, which is the sane and humane thing to do.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 9:21 AM
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lifesaver: obviously youre not an animal lover, or even an animal LIKER. People have choices & opportunities in this life, they can overcome on their own w/perserverence, or state programs like unemployment and yes, even welfare if need be. Animals have NO choice. Yearrounder: why should the Southampton Town be exempt from all the layoffs in the U.S.?? Please answer that. Some are just looking for something else to blame Linda for...
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 10:25 AM
Because there are a number of alternatives to job cuts including across the board pay reductions for everyone employed by the town. Linda is being blamed because she created the problem, or, at the very least, sat idly by while others did. She needs to go bye-bye. And lets not forget the DWI. Enough is enough.
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 1:36 PM
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and Noah way: Ive been in the animal shelter looking for a dog myself and the staff told me that many of the animals are there b/c their owners either MOVED or got too old/senile to care for them.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 10:26 AM
Ridiculous....thank you for the info.
So we added a fourth judge, with now new court time added to the schedule. They offer night court but no one needs it.....hmmmm.
Did we need a fourth Judge? How much are we spending to have this added judge? Why was the position even added?
I think that we are the only town court in the state that has four justices.

The supervisor needs to look at this as a "cost cutting measure".
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 10:56 AM
Instead of cutting 50 jobs,why not let every employee take a 10% cut and lets see how much that would save. No need for a 4th judge
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 12:46 PM
Is Mr. White going to try and play the race card AGAIN?????
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 1:02 PM
People, we need that 4th Judge... to handle all the criminal cases from Kabot and her staff!

She is personally keeping all the lawyers in town in business... and then some.

Are we sure who's paying the bill?
By littleplains (305), olde england on Oct 8, 09 3:14 PM
When you drive under the influence it shows a total disregard for the life and well being of others. Look at todays Newsday cover...

It's not my nature, but I'm beginning to believe in the angry mob mentality. 100 yrs. ago these people (politicians) would've been tarred and feathered. The lack of accountability!

With the incalculable amount of wealth here, our tax base. How are we falling so sort of the mark! This type of mismanagement is OBSCENE!

Please don't tell ...more
By Soundview (89), Hampton bays on Oct 8, 09 3:43 PM
"We'll show them in the next election" I know,...
I'm so mad I can't even think straight!
By Soundview (89), Hampton bays on Oct 8, 09 3:47 PM
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Linda will be joining the other 48 on the unemployment line in 2010
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Oct 8, 09 4:48 PM
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How much did the Town spend on the Taj Mahal North Sea Transfer Station? Overhead canopies for waste paper? Lights for night dumping? 2 or 3 guards to be sure it all goes in the right place? Huh?
By sansouci (9), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 4:48 PM
Nothing compared to the new town hall complex ... keep those tax dollars coming in!
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 5:08 PM
Ok to all you miss led and ignant people out there that seem to love linda and let her ruin this awesome town, I have something to say to you. She wants to cut jobs and salaries but she say anything about cutting any money that effects her?? NO... She went and put a $10K carpet in her office last year ... was that needed... NO. She is part of the problem and has been. She has been involved with the town hall for the past 13 yrs. and now she is pointing the finger and saying its not her falt and ...more
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 5:45 PM
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You would either have to know Linda personally enough that she would confide in you the price of a new carpet (doubt it) or you would have to directly work in the Town Hall, or you would have to work for the carpet co. that (supposedly) installed it. So which is it?? If none of the above then you are going on mere unfounded gossip or fabrication. Please dont say I heard it from someone who heard it from someone b/c you know that doesnt hold any weight. BTW, Ive been in Linda's office and last time ...more
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 6:05 PM
All money that is spent in the town is public knowledge....do a little research Sam. are you for real you dont see any issue with her spending that much on a carpet when the town dont have the money.
quote from sam...
" BTW, Ive been in Linda's office and last time I was in there (long time ago) it really NEEDED a new carpet " what made it so needed bwt?? its just carpet...
she really needed it, well what about the 40 or so families she wants to get rid of and their carpet. Im sure ...more
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 6:51 PM
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wait... so tookatz is a gossiper or liar for talking about a 10K rug... but an anonymous, third-hand letter is proof that the cops framed Linda? What are you people smoking?
By littleplains (305), olde england on Oct 9, 09 10:45 AM
Don't forget the new slate roof on town hall.
I guess one of two things exist about the fourth judge on this strand. Either people do not really know if we needed a fourth Judge or not and are not responding.....
-OR-
people just do not care about the issue and are not responding.
I am frustrated with this issue.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 8, 09 6:20 PM
Ya see, They dont post anything about it cuz to them linda cant do any worng. they just point fingers tryin to pass the blame onto someone else just like linda. its much easier to point fingers then to take the responability for their actions.....
if ya diss agree read all the linda supporters posts. they all are tryin to pass the blame...

Vote no for DWI vote no linda kabot
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 7:00 PM
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Linda knew just what was going on for 13 years and as alwyas she pionts fingers at everyone else. She never does any wrong
GIVE ME A BREAK
LAST CALL FOR LINDA
Time for another drink Linda
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 6:21 PM
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"SAM"
Are you ever going to tell us were you really live.
Strange you know so much about Linda
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 6:40 PM
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By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 6:40 PM
And one more thing..... Linda REFUSED take a breathalizer test...amidst all these petty details about phone calls and police supposedly changing their stories...did we forget about this...? Why would a town representative refuse a test that would PROVE her innocence??? Personnally, as a westhampton beach citizen, i am proud to live in a village where police officers protect their people, and make the streets safe for us all to drive on. Especially by taking an elected official off the streets after ...more
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 7:07 PM
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and once again she is passing the blame... im I the only one that sees a pattern here ??
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 7:10 PM
SJD: and why is it so strange I know "so much" as you say, about Linda when I am one of her supporters, AND one of her volunteers (I help out every year at her re-election fundraiser), AND our kids go to school together, AND we are aquaintances, AND I have had many occasion to visit Town Hall. I am not ashamed to admit any of that. Why should I be? I dont know why you think it is "strange"that I know her. For some reason you think you are being Columbo the detective but I assure you there is nothing ...more
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 7:30 PM
keep drinking the kool aid dude. you're delusional
By littleplains (305), olde england on Oct 9, 09 10:47 AM
Way to Go Sam! Good answer!
By jrw1262 (8), Westhampton on Oct 9, 09 1:08 PM
I just found this link on another blog. It's a link to the sh town police officers yearly salaries. I also read they want even more, they are looking for a 4% increase in 2010.
http://www.town.southampton.ny.us/2009Budget/2010-TENT-town-police.pdf

We need to keep Kabot to vote NO on this increase. Throne-Holst is endorsed by the police so you better forget about her voting NO.
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Oct 8, 09 8:03 PM
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tookatz
Are you proud that the WHB police edited out 4.5 minutes of the dwi arrest?
This is tampering with evidence. What a disgrace they are. Shame on them.
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Oct 8, 09 8:06 PM
golfbuddy: thank you for that link
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 8:41 PM
Look at the pages cited above by golfbuddy. See how many of those officers have served more than twenty years. Lax management has permitted TWENTY-SEVEN to extend their employment beyond their contractual retirement date. Their salaries are now $3.6M/year. Perhaps this generosity arose in the past because the Town Council thought that the town was flush with cash, but today we are in dire straits. We cannot afford this multi-million dollar generosity.

Especially galling is that forty-eight ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Oct 8, 09 8:44 PM
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see once again linda lover tryin to pass the blame... making this a issue about the police not how linda has been spending and has spent the town's money. and as far as the police and the video?? did you see the video?? do you know for a fact there is a mising part of it?? and if so what part?? can you tell me ??
A quote from sam..."Please dont say I heard it from someone who heard it from someone b/c you know that doesnt hold any weight." I'll ask you the same question..
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 8:49 PM
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tookatz: you said "All money that is spent in the town is public knowledge" Could you please tell me where I could obtain the info on the carpet? could you post a link?
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 9:18 PM
Sam you claim to be so close to linda and all buddy buddy with her. call her up and ask her about it. go right to the horses or should i say donkeys mouth.
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 9:30 PM
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"SAM" Linda NEVER says anything is her doing
Looks like you are a BIG fan of Linda and her actions.
Seems strange she takes no blame in the money spent since she was involved for 13 years
Do you remember her husband calling a local radio station and used a different name??
Do you remember the housing problem on a property she is involved with and how her and her husband showed up ther??
Now someone claims to have edited over 4 min. of her arrest??
You do not post your real ...more
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 9:36 PM
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wow thanks to the person who posted the link to the police salaries list. these total compensation numbers are no joke, three pages of salaries, almost all over $150k.

these 7 alone over $1.25 million...

Detective PBA 165,538
Detective PBA 171,769
Detective PBA 172,833
Detective PBA 157,674
Captain PBA 223,928
Detective PBA166,549
Detective PBA 167,454
By davidf (325), hampton bays on Oct 8, 09 9:37 PM
tookatz
No one trying to pass any blame. I think it is you who is trying to make this an issue. I'm simply providing a link to the police budget.
The article regarding the video being edited with 4.5 minutes missing is in this paper. This information came to light with an exclusive interview the sh press had with Kabot's attorney.
How is it that you have no clue about the edited video, but have knowledge that $10,000 was spent on carpet.
Why should Sam call her up, you made ...more
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Oct 8, 09 9:44 PM
Lets look at how Linda voted the last 13 years
She was one of the people who caused the problem
From over spending to a DWI
NOTHING IS EVER HER FAULT
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 9:55 PM
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sjd
Who are you to ask anyone to post their real address or name. All because someone supports Kabot does that mean they are related to her? For you information Kabot has not been an elected official for 13 years.
What is your problem, what is your beef with Kabot?
It can't be that you are a fan of the WHB police, or the chief or the village board, not according to your blog in May of this year:

The mayor never answerd the quesion about his wife.
the owner of the bar is ...more
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Oct 8, 09 9:58 PM
With friends like this guy, Linda Kabot needs no enemies
By JimmyKBond (151), Hampton Bays on Oct 11, 09 3:32 PM
I dont need to im not the one asking the question. How do you know its not true? look it up do some home work and prove me worng!! your the one that dont want to have linda's buddy call her up and ask her. But im sure your one of the people that believe that this anonymous letter about linda not being drunk is totally true. so maybe I will write a anonymous letter about the carpet to the press and it will be the truth. prove me wrong...You cant because it is true ... :-p.
O and i dont recall ...more
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 10:00 PM
tookatz
Stop with the childish games.
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Oct 8, 09 10:09 PM
Golfbuddy, few on these pages act with such childish bravado as you. Glass houses, buddy, glass houses.
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Oct 9, 09 8:13 AM
and here we go again linda lovers changing the topic .... let me say this about the police budget.. does it seem like a lot of money??? but your going to put a price on somones life?? do you go to work and put your life on the line everyday?? do you have to wear a bullet proof vest when you go to work because someone may try to shoot you for doing your job?? i doubt it . well guess what all police officers do, they are the ones putting their butts on the line for you and all of the people of this ...more
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 10:18 PM
golfbuddy.
cant prove me worng so untill then....game on
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 10:21 PM
I'm going to bed im tired from playin all these games right golfbuddy...o and golfbuddy dont get too upset i dont want you to get all mad and push me like jones did to Aube. or was that a poke??
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 10:26 PM
tookatz: you didnt answer my question please. Youre not going to give me the link or the site/newspaper/documents where I can see (as you have seen) the cost of the carpet?? I would like to see it with my own eyes, as you have. If as YOU say, Linda is a liar, then why would I ask her?? Second time IM asking, would you please tell me where YOU obtained this information so that I may go to the SAME SOURCE. If we must assume that Linda's refusal to submit to a breath test means she is a drunk, then ...more
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 10:26 PM
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O ill add one more thing

VOTE NO for Drunk driving ....Vote NO linda kabot....

By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 10:29 PM
p.s. And I cant even post what Linda would or wouldnt say about the carpet if I did/will ask her because the Press would delete the comment. I made a post week's back including a quote from Linda but it was removed by the Editor.
p.s.s you seem to be avoiding the question. Im calling your bluff???
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 10:31 PM

Sam tookatz is going to bed she needs her beauty sleep to work that 8-4 shift.
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Oct 8, 09 10:31 PM
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Vote NO for Tookatz
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 10:32 PM
Hey your her buddy as u said it before you ask her and prove me wrong........
I did not say she is a drunk , I said if she was not drunk what did she have to hide . common please read all of what i post ... thank you and good night :)
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 10:33 PM
golfbuddy: would you please post your home addres and your full name and your phone number and your place of business on this public website please?
ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaa kidding
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 10:33 PM
no noooooooo tookatz, in this country you have to prove GUILT, NOT INNOCENCE!!!!!! So Im asking you AGAIN- please prove Linda guilty of spending 10,000 on a carpet. LOOK YOU BROUGHT IT UP!!!!!!!!
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 10:35 PM
I guess b/c you brought it up you assumed everyone was just going to take your word for it. What an insult that you think the people here are that stupid and easily swayed.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 8, 09 10:41 PM
Sam
I can't believe this nonsense. tookatz went to bed, should we talk about her while she can't hear us. Just kidding.
Have a good night.
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Oct 8, 09 10:41 PM
Look, i didn't assume anybody would take my word for it. i guess you shouldn't believe everything you read, just like the anonymous letter and the 4.5 minutes of missing video....just because someone said it, it must be true!!! i thought thats what everyone was going by...or at least golfbuddy and Sam. and by the way sam, if refusal to submit proof of my claim means i'm full of it, then im guilty. but at least my refusal isnt putting innocent lives at risk like linda's drunk driving!!!!!!!!!!
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 10:47 PM
whats up now SSSSAAAAMMMM???!
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 10:49 PM
ya know what, maybe you guys are right...maybe we should just give linda the benefit of the doubt. maybe the cops shouldn't have arrested her, they should have let her drive home, right? wonder if you could look someone in the face who has lost someone b/c of drunk drivers and tell them that even tho they failed a field sobriety test, its ok that the cops let them drive home. The drunk driver was probably a good person that works for the community, like linda kabot...get real. the cops did their ...more
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 11:00 PM
The examples of poor management or purchase decisions or construction decisions that posters lay at the foot of Linda Kabot are HISTORY.

The $3.6M annual expenditure on the salaries of police officers who should be retired is the FUTURE.

Unless a Supervisor and Town Board adopts the policy that formerly prevailed of not offering continued employment to most cops who have passed their contractual twenty year retirement date, we will spend $3.6M next year, and the year after, etc. ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Oct 8, 09 11:11 PM
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highhatsize
i completely agree with you on the issue of not offering continued employment to cops who have passed their retirement date. retire for gods sake!! spend time with your grandchildren, get a hobby and stop wasting our money! and i hope public outrage does ensue and that something is done to take this town back in the right direction....
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 9, 09 12:02 AM
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tookatz
Right on the receiving end of the drunk driving of Kabot, cut the crap. Now we have the bleeding heart act. Take a look at your morals.
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Oct 8, 09 11:12 PM
golfbuddy
wow! sounds like you're gettin mean now. too bad you can't have a debate like an adult. lemme know when you're ready to talk with the grown-ups. and as for your little 'bleeding heart act' comment, i take that very personally as a person who has lost someone close to me to a drunk driver. just stop with your "crap" now please, cause you're really barking up the wrong tree with that one.
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 8, 09 11:55 PM
You are exactly right, tookatz. Take a look at goflbuddy's comments throughout this site. Instead of offering up facts, evidence, intelligent theories, he calls names and stomps his feet. You have to treat him just as you would a spoiled child and ignore him.
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Oct 9, 09 8:15 AM
To tookatz:

It's not like the Town has to put fliers up in slums in order to attract candidates for the STPD. STPD officer is a highly desirable and highly competitive appointment. The position offers a good starting salary, and astronomical increases by grade and seniority, for a job that doesn't require a college degree. By the time a STPD cop retires after his twenty, he will have earned more than the average worker does after forty. He will retire on a pension and benefits that ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Oct 8, 09 11:30 PM
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So highat when was it, exactly, that your hope to be one of the Southampton Town Police went up in flames? Your anger over these (mostly) dedicated, selfless men and women of law enforcement is really off-putting, even as you have adefinite right to air your beefs with the cops.
By JimmyKBond (151), Hampton Bays on Oct 11, 09 3:36 PM
"golfbuddy" or should it be "samsbuddy"
You buddy sam stated he did not live in WHB just worked there and all I ever asked was were did he live.Strange he never answered and why not put up were you live???? Just shows people you have something to hide.
Please stop defending Linda.She knew what spending was done while she was on the board before she took her new position. But Lindas answer to EVERYTHING is it was someone else no her.
Her husband got caught making a call to a local radio ...more
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Oct 9, 09 2:06 AM
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well at least tookatz admitted she/he was full of it as far as the carpet is concerned. Now we can put that to be bed b/c it doesnt have a leg to stand on. Thank you tookatz for coming forward, but it goes to show you that people on here are making things up just to make linda look bad/worse.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 9, 09 7:15 AM
nope, guess again, never admitted i was wrong about anything sam...im surprised you would say that?! isn't the 4.4 mins of missing police video hearsay...where's that proof?? O, right. her lawyer said it, so it must be true! and what about the anonymous letter...nobody made that up either right? you seem to just pick and choose what you want to believe sam, so keep up the good work...NOT ;)
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 13, 09 4:54 PM
sjd: Im sorry ur so obsessed w/where I live but I assure you I am a registered SH Town voter. (I do not have a habit of posting where I live over the Internet. Not here or not anywhere.) You'll just have to get over it. And in answer to ur question, never once in any forum did I affirm or deny that Kabot was drunk. I have NO IDEA either way. I belive my 1st post way back when was that I am very dissapointed in her behavior that night HOWEVER that didnt change my vote for her. Ive also stated time ...more
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 9, 09 8:01 AM
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They're not laying off only the "overpaid employees". The majority of those laid off will be the people who live from paycheck to paycheck, as usual......maybe the Righteous Town Supervisor should take a cut in pay?
By MaryMac (43), Riverhead on Oct 9, 09 9:59 AM
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PRECISELY! Those 48 fires will, with one or two exceptions, be employees at the very bottom of the pay hierarchy in Southampton Town. THEY will have no savings or safety net of any kind to fall back on and will have difficulty finding another job.

By contrast, the 27 STPD cops serving supra-contractually beyond their designated retirement year would have a $100,000K pension and benefit package annually AND the credentials to secure lucrative employment in the private security sector.

If ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Oct 9, 09 3:04 PM
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so let me get this straight... Sam WONT vote for Anna because of "those obnoxious life-size poster boards"... but he WILL vote for a public servant who drives drunk, shirks personal responsibility, and has spent 13 years helping to run our government into the ground.

What's wrong with this picture?
By littleplains (305), olde england on Oct 9, 09 10:38 AM
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exactly!!!!! i couldn't have put it better littleplains
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 13, 09 4:49 PM
"littleplains" You hit the nail right on the head.
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Oct 9, 09 10:55 AM
Linda purchased that new carpet as a welcome mat for Anna when she takes over the office-money well spent.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Oct 9, 09 11:14 AM
what cuts and savings have Throne-Holst and Pope put forth? I don't recall any except for ATH's firing of the Vet Tech. Pope supposedly called for an audit, which everyone wanted anyway right after Blowes dropped the $19 million bombshell at a work session.

What has ATH dones in 2 years to reduce spending or fix the books in Town Hall? She's endorsed by the PBA why hasn't she proposed anything to fix the the problem?
What has Pope done in her 9 months in office other than that ridiculous ...more
By ridiculous (214), hampton bays on Oct 9, 09 11:39 AM
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Um, excuse me but wasn't Anna the one who demanded the audit that uncovered all the missing $... which is still not accounted for?

And last time I checked, the Supervisor proposes the budget, not the council.

I'm not even an Anna supporter. I think all of them should step aside. But you can't blame people on a council for 9 months when Kabot has been involved for 13 years.
By littleplains (305), olde england on Oct 9, 09 1:52 PM
Yes, but Anna has been bragging in debates and the news how she saw the economic crisis coming when she took office last year. So my question is what has she done to reduce spending during her 2 years on the board?

Yes it is the Supervisor's budget, but the Board makes amendments to it. So again what has/is she propsed to reduce spending and fix the deficit?

yes Kabot hasd been involved for such a long time but you seem to assume that because you are elected official, your fellow ...more
By ridiculous (214), hampton bays on Oct 9, 09 2:36 PM
Anna is smart-keep your mouth shut and you'll get elected. Pope has done nothing and does not deserve to be elected. My votes are going to Anna, Nuzzi, and Fleming
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Oct 9, 09 11:47 AM
I wish Nuzzi were running for Supervisor. Maybe next year?
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 9, 09 11:58 AM
Even Sam, a Kabot intimate, admits she must go ... and Nuzzi would be a fine difference once he's got a few more years of experience and seasoning. He is just too "green" to be handling or managing a "business" the size of Southampton Town.
By JimmyKBond (151), Hampton Bays on Oct 11, 09 3:57 PM
Highhat: how do you feel about Nuzzi?
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Oct 9, 09 11:58 AM
To Sam:

I really know little of Chris Nuzzi, as I knew little of Linda Kabot and the STPD payroll padding until her DUI arrest attracted my interest.

However, the list of Nuzzi's campaign benefactors suggest that he is another in the long line of Town Council members whose hearts are with the building trades. ( http://www.elections.state.ny.us:8080/reports/rwservlet?cmdkey=efs_sch_report+p_filer_id=C21689+p_e_year=2008+p_freport_id=K+p_transaction_code=B)

It is traditional ...more
By highhatsize (3321), East Quogue on Oct 9, 09 3:38 PM
Tonight I'm trying to figure out which town wins the prize for the most crooked politicians, Southampton or East Hampton? The prize, striped shirts for everyone !
By nurse (53), sag harbor on Oct 9, 09 11:32 PM
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Nurse, don't get a headache trying to sift through the incompetence so obvious in both Southampton and East Hampton. It is mind boggling isn't it?

TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE: Let us all hope the voters in November, for once, see through the campaign manipulation and advertising sleaze sure to cover up the horrible mismanagement and ego-driven tenure of Linda Kabot. Try finding a more inept past administration at Town Hall -- Democratic or Republican -- and there is none so poorly handled nor ...more
By JimmyKBond (151), Hampton Bays on Oct 11, 09 3:54 PM
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JimmyKBond
You have no idea what you are talking about, please expand on your reply regarding the mismanagement. Who' the Kabot team?
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Oct 11, 09 8:49 PM
the kabot team?? well, there's you...and don't forget sam...!!! hehe
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 13, 09 4:58 PM
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ask your spouse, Mr Kabot
By JimmyKBond (151), Hampton Bays on Oct 16, 09 2:50 PM
JimmyKBond
Who in your opinion as the skills & talent to lead an annual enterprise of $80 million?
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Oct 11, 09 9:12 PM
well it's apparent linda can't..
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 14, 09 8:58 AM
"Golfbuddy" shall we praise and exalt Linda Kabot (as you want) for the missing $ 10 million dollars she knew about before seeking to become Town Supervisor ? or maybe for the two years in office in which she has DONE NOTHING but mismanage the Town Budget and RAISE property taxes on all those who least can afford it (senior citizens, young families) ... ?

TO ALL VOTERS -- if you LOVE two years of Higher Property Taxes send Linda Kabot roses as a thank you and VOTE Linda Kabot back into ...more
By JimmyKBond (151), Hampton Bays on Oct 16, 09 3:02 PM
hey everybody, lets take a vote...who thinks that golfbuddy is linda kabots husband!? :)
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 13, 09 4:47 PM
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only 21 days until Linda's dimise
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Oct 13, 09 6:06 PM
I always assumed "golfbuddy" was Linda herself
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Oct 13, 09 6:08 PM
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I say time for change give ATH a shot at it. cant possibly mess things up more then linda has over the years.


remember VOTE NO for DWI, VOTE NO for linda kabot ! ! ! !
By tookatz (82), westhampton beach on Oct 14, 09 9:03 AM
LAST
CALL
FOR
LINDA
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Oct 16, 09 8:24 AM
I hope you guys and gals don't really think that Linda Kabot and Chris Nuzzi didn't know about these deficits last year, do you??? Republican "insiders" tell me that Linda was advised NOT TO RUN for office because SKIP should have been left to face the music that he wrote! That's right, folks. The mess you see in Town Hall was NO SURPRISE to any of the Republicans who are running for office today. Even the "conservative" candidate Malone was likely to have know this all along. They've all worked ...more
By Dodger (143), Southampton Village on Oct 16, 09 11:04 AM
Is it any wonder this town is in such trouble when it's registered voters focus on things like the size of campaign posters, finger pointing and name calling??

There are SERIOUS issues facing this town and this country. It is our duty to choose the person we feel can best address those issues, based on REAL things...things that can be proven by information avialable to the general public. Everything else is heresay.

If you feel that person is ATH...fine, argue those points intelligbly ...more
By EQMama (25), East Quogue on Oct 16, 09 3:26 PM
Dodger
You have no idea what you are talking about and are saying things that are not true.
You need to do some research before spreading lies. The democrats had the majority for most of the years during the Heaney administration. Did they know about the deficits? What did they do about it?
What have the 2 current democrats done knowing about the deficits. Tell me what have they done to cut expenses in the budget?
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Oct 18, 09 7:28 PM
Come on, golfbuddy, I answered those tired old arguments of yours under the article "Kabot DWI case moves to Riverhead Town Justice Court", with my comments of Oct. 13, 09, 10:32 AM and Oct. 14, 09, 2:48 PM. I can't be bothered typing it all out again, but please read it and spare us this recycled material.

Two officials seeking re-election are responsible for the horrendous money mess we're in -- Linda Kabot for overseeing Southampton's decline through thirteen years in high Town office, ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Oct 22, 09 12:07 AM
The name of Jim Malone, Conservative Party Chairman and Republican candidate for Town Board, has come up in some recent comments. I'm troubled by the fact that Mr. Malone hasn't said whether he'll leave his County job if he's elected. His website says he is the "Senior Deputy Clerk and Chief Fiscal Director" for Suffolk County, and that he "manages over 130 government employees and hundreds of millions of dollars per year."

This is a big and time-consuming government job in which Jim ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Oct 24, 09 11:32 AM
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