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Stony Brook University will announce drastic cuts to Stony Brook Southampton

Publication: The Southampton Press
By Will James   Apr 9, 2010 1:31 PM

Stony Brook University officials will slash spending on Stony Brook Southampton, eliminate student housing, reduce operations at the 81-acre Shinnecock Hills campus to just two buildings, and pull the plug on most programs now offered there starting this fall.

The stunning cost-cutting proposal, confirmed Wednesday by Stony Brook officials, comes just four years after the university purchased the campus for $35 million from Long Island University, and invested tens of millions of dollars in an effort to transform it into a center for sustainability and environmental studies.

In a closed-door meeting at the Stony Brook University main campus on Tuesday afternoon, Stony Brook President Dr. Samuel L. Stanley Jr. discussed the proposal with New York State Assemblyman Fred W. Thiele Jr., State Senator Kenneth P. LaValle and U.S. Representative Tim Bishop. The legislators pledged to seek a way to preserve the full-time campus for the second time in less than a decade.

Representatives from Stony Brook University, as well as Mary Pearl, the dean and administrative vice president of Stony Brook Southampton, did not return calls seeking comment on Tuesday evening or Wednesday morning.

But in a press release issued on Wednesday morning, the university confirmed that it would be making deep cuts to Stony Brook Southampton, as well as the university’s Manhattan campus, in response to a steep drop in state aid over the last two years. The release stated that the university would be shutting down the residential program and new undergraduate admissions at Stony Brook Southampton, but did not offer further details.

Dr. Stanley is quoted in the release as saying that, despite the cuts, the university will “remain steadfast in our commitment to research and teaching at the site.”

In the same release, Stony Brook officials said they have lost nearly $55 million in state aid over the last two years and that, in addition to the cuts at Stony Brook Southampton, they will be cutting jobs in the future.

As per the proposal, which would take effect this fall, the Shinnecock Hills campus will remain open but will no longer house students, and the academic programs offered there would be reduced to marine science classes and the graduate degree program in writing, according to Mr. Thiele. The campus currently offers nine undergraduate majors, along with a graduate degree in writing.

The 500 students who currently attend the satellite campus would probably be absorbed into the main campus, according to Mr. Thiele. He also said that most of the facilities at the campus, including the library, student center and dormitories, would be shuttered under the current plan. Chancellor’s Hall, a building that contains classrooms and administrative offices, and the college’s marine sciences research center would remain open, Mr. Thiele said.

Mr. Thiele, who along with Mr. LaValle was instrumental in convincing the state to provide the money to acquire the college, described Stony Brook’s announcement as a “breach of faith.” In the same press release issued Tuesday evening, Mr. Thiele said Stony Brook University officials “are taking the substantial goodwill created by Stony Brook on the East End in the last five years and flushing it down the toilet.”

When reached immediately after the Tuesday afternoon meeting, Mr. LaValle also decried the plan.

“First, let me say that as the father of the Southampton campus, I am extremely angry at their proposal,” said Mr. LaValle, a former chairman of the New York State Senate Higher Education Committee, a key player in the effort to save the college, and for whom Stony Brook University’s Kenneth P. LaValle Stadium is named. “I can only liken this to hearing that you lost a family member,” he said later.

Stony Brook officials stated Wednesday morning that the cuts to Stony Brook Southampton will save them about $6 million a year. In the last 18 months, New York State has handed down more than $500 million in cuts to the State University of New York system, $33 million of which have been passed on to Stony Brook University, according to Mr. LaValle.

Mr. Bishop, a former provost of the campus when it was run by LIU, said that he understands that the university is in a difficult position, but that he will work to ensure that the cuts are a “temporary delay” rather than a permanent loss. “I just think it would be criminal to have those investments go to waste,” he added.

Stony Brook Southampton is currently operated as a quasi-separate entity from Stony Brook University, with a partially separate application process, its own faculty members and some degree of autonomy in academic and fiscal decisions. It appears likely that all of that would change, as per the description of the cuts offered by Mr. Thiele and Mr. LaValle.

Stony Brook University underwent a change of leadership this summer, when Dr. Stanley, formerly the vice chancellor for research and a professor of molecular microbiology at Washington University in St. Louis, took the reins from Shirley Strum Kenny, who retired after 15 years of service. Stony Brook Southampton was purchased under Dr. Kenny’s leadership.

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this is so sad.....
By josearaujo (1), southampton on Apr 6, 10 7:20 PM
Say good bye. They have decided it is done, stick a fork in it. All the politicians with blood oin their hands need to fix this.
By JimmyKBond (146), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 10 11:06 PM
What's a word that means worse than pathetic?
By Mr. Z (6222), North Sea on Apr 7, 10 11:54 PM
I believe the word you are searching for, Mr Z, is "Bishop"
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Apr 8, 10 5:02 AM
Now that had me LMFAO!!!!
By Mr. Z (6222), North Sea on Apr 8, 10 9:28 PM
Wow, wish I knew about this before I got half-way through my B.A. there.
By Cdwyer213 (68), Quogue on Apr 6, 10 7:23 PM
This is totally uncalled for. I was Class of 1968. Southampton was for me and many a place to be educated by an incomparable teaching staff and to grow into adulthood in an area that is unparalled in beauty and history. The cutback/closing saddens me greatly. I am no longer a resident of the State of New York and feel relieved to be a resident of a State where education and community enrichment come ahead of selective budget cuts.
By radioconsultant (4), Reno Nevada on Apr 6, 10 7:31 PM
a casino coming our way now????
By tianabay (5), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 10 7:49 PM
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This is an outrageous move--and one that should be aggressively fought by local, state and federal officials. Southampton College, under its various names, has long provided a year-round economic engine for the East End. Closing the college now would be horrible for the East End, for economic reasons AND educational reasons. As some of the other commenters are asking, what would be next for the campus that sits at the entrance to the South Fork?
By Doug Love (3), Huntington on Apr 6, 10 8:00 PM
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This is the academic equivalent of the MTA.
By EEGO (10), Bridgehampton on Apr 6, 10 8:01 PM
Betrayal! Of the first order...First it was the incompetence of LIU: I remember David Steinberg standing before a faculty meeting saying he would defend the college to the last--and he was proven a liar and a charlatan. Now it is Dr. Stanley and Dr. Pearl who have betrayed us and sacrificed academic excellence and community spirit on the altar of avarice and the budget. This campus deserves better than all of them and I only hope that from these twice-cooled ashes something better will yet arise. ...more
By Capt. Phil (40), Southampton on Apr 6, 10 8:11 PM
Dr. Pearl should not be included on any list of traitors. She has worked tirelessly and inventively to make this campus work. She is as shocked as everyone else--the faculty, who gave her a standing ovation and the students, who gave her several. These outpourings of recognition are no consolation for the demise of the college, but they are mightily deserved.
By Julie Sheehan (1), East Quogue on Apr 7, 10 4:16 PM
This is absolutely, postiviely the perfect example with what is wrong with this primitive government of ours. We will spend every dime we can get our hands on to help people not willing to help themselves or unable because of their legal status, yet spit in the faces of our kids trying to make something of their lives. This is pure loserville stuff. The people making this decision are the lowest forms of life and frankly should be investigated for incompetency. Man this just burns me up.
By do.the.right.thing (3), Southampton on Apr 6, 10 8:11 PM
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What does this have to do with helping people who can't help themselves, or someone's legal status?
By dagdavid (645), southampton on Apr 7, 10 8:24 AM
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I think that it is felt that if we squandered less on "freeloaders", we'd have more money for other things.

It's more likely that it would be pocketed by the usual suspects anyway, so...
By Mr. Z (6222), North Sea on Apr 8, 10 9:30 PM
This campus would be the perfect place for the Sinnecock Nation's casino. Located between the two highways would help the traffic flow. Shinnecock Nation residents would be close enough to actually be employed at the casino and benfit from it. The land probably belongs to the Shinnecock's anyways.
By Walt (243), Southampton on Apr 6, 10 9:20 PM
What a big disappointment. Hopefully the New York State government will reduce some of their cut backs to help the campus dorms and other programs stay open.
By Meikle (2), Southampton NY on Apr 6, 10 9:31 PM
why not have it as a guest institution every year...5 towns college, you're up next
By jaboga (11), Speonk on Apr 6, 10 9:38 PM
Southampton is an extremely special place for people to actually learn about something that they are truely passionate about. Unlike other SUNY schools, and especially the main campus of SUNY Stony Brook where you are just one in 400 and the professors don't have time to give a damn about the individual student, Southampton offers an environment where teachers get to know their students and actually impart valuable information. The students at Southampton are the ones that should be bolstered, not ...more
By olparin (1), Mount Sinai on Apr 6, 10 9:47 PM
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Stony Brook is lucky to have this beautiful town's name next to it! They should tighten main campus of its extra amenities and give them to Southampton and maybe more students would be attending. Way to GO GREEN, by cutting all the young, refreshing, inspired, environmental students of their major!! We are your next generation of upcoming scientists that you should be supporting because we actually care about this Earth!!
This is unbelievable 1)How do they ever expect to make their money back?? ...more
By SwtMermaid (2), Southampton on Apr 6, 10 10:07 PM
I will teach classes for free. I'm sure there are lots of others who would do the same- perhaps retired people or those who are underemployed in their chosen professions.

Why can't we be creative in proposing solutions?
By Montaukette (46), Waterland on Apr 6, 10 10:16 PM
From a business point of view it is short sighted. Few business generate a profit the first few years - From an educational standpoint it is a travesty due to the fact that the satellite campus would be providing the problem solving workforce for an island that is already suffering drastically from the "brain drain." And lastly, how could anyone not be angry at the same SUNY Board who supposedly backed this decision over 5 years ago to promote the Southampton campus. Where was the foresight then? ...more
By Nelson (1), Huntington on Apr 6, 10 10:20 PM
It seems like they always have the money to pocket excessive salaries, but no money to invest in the future...
By Mr. Z (6222), North Sea on Apr 6, 10 10:29 PM
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You hit the nail squarely on the head!
By elliot (203), sag harbor on Apr 6, 10 10:52 PM
Thank You, Tim Bishop, for running Southampton College broke in the first place...
By Uniblab (24), Water Mill on Apr 6, 10 10:46 PM
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ignorant, cheap shot. Bishop was a good steward all those years, ask Thiele.
By JimmyKBond (146), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 10 11:04 PM
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it's true and you know it. Bishop was a terrible manager there. and Thiele is the last person I'd ask about anything.
By Uniblab (24), Water Mill on Apr 7, 10 6:04 AM
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ask Thiele LOL
By razza5350 (1545), East Hampton on Apr 7, 10 9:49 AM
Well this certainly is the end of the Southampton college campus. In a few years, it will be shuttered all together and the land sold to developers.

The State should have recource for this horrible breach of faioth. Stony Brook should pay back the $ 35 million gotten from the taxpayers. The colege campus is dead, dead, dead. RIP.
By JimmyKBond (146), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 10 11:03 PM
Why did they insist that the radio station (88.3) move out, at considerable expense to a community station. It was a beautiful facility and now will be empty. Also, the library was just completed - what a waste .
By sunshine (47), southampton on Apr 6, 10 11:24 PM
Why bother spending all that money to purchase...and then another 10 million to upgrade...they did such a nice job...I was actually proud to tell pepole that I go there and how quaint and beautiful this small tight-knit campus. It's all for naught then i suppose.
By MarineWiffler (1), seaford on Apr 6, 10 11:52 PM
81 acres would be adequate to house a new regional medical center that the East End desperately needs. Its association with Stony Brook SUNY would staff it with the finest of medical residents. As a non-profit, state hospital it would be cushioned against economic cycles by the state treasury and the federal government.

We have the land. All we need is the will and the imagination. It could be a salvation for the East End in the new National Health Care universe. Most of the grounds ...more
By highhatsize (2114), East Quogue on Apr 7, 10 1:35 AM
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Great idea highhatsize. If Stony Brook offered more classes, more degrees at this location perhaps the college would be doing much better. It seems its always the east end of LI that "our politicians" take away from first.
By mystcstar (51), Quogue on Apr 7, 10 9:38 AM
Highhatsize, I don't agree with you often, but that is an excellent idea! This community needs an upgraded and larger medical center, and the location is perfect. I tip my hat to you (for a change) but don't get used too it. Hopefully someone in an influencial position will have the foresight to explore this option.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Apr 9, 10 6:49 AM
I recently started atending Southampton College after a 5 year hiatus from school. After months of debating between different schools, I was so happy I chose this school in particular. The "green" concept is new and innovative, the teachers there actually give a damn about what they do, and I've honestly had an extremely enjoyable experience so far with the students I've come across. I'm truly saddened by this disappointing news.
By rallyn18 (1), east moriches on Apr 7, 10 4:02 AM
I graduated from Southampton College in 2002, Stony Brook (with a masters) in 2006. Presently I am pursuing an MFA on the SBS campus. Having been involved with the writer's program since 2000, I have seen the fall, rise--and now again, the fall of this beloved institution. It's almost more than I can take. I'm sure there are many who feel as I do. How can this be alllowed to happen again? Where is the leadership? Another failure of government to serve the people. When do th einstitutions of the ...more
By DOC (9), Riverhead on Apr 7, 10 4:25 AM
Totally Sad. All that investment then to shut it down. What no reserve fund?? Stony Brook needs new a new management team. This little campus in Southampton could be so great if they just promoted it more. Just look at the Marine Science location. The campus should be chock full of marine science, environmental science students.
By North Sea Citizen (329), North Sea on Apr 7, 10 6:13 AM
To you people who are blaming Congressman Bishop for ths:
1. I think you misunderstand what the position "provost" entails.
2. He hasn't been at the college for over 8 years, it's the equivalent of blaming Bill Clinton for the current state of the economy.
By SamIAm (35), hampton bays on Apr 7, 10 6:33 AM
Bill clinton is responsible for expanding the role of Fannie Mae and Freedie Mac which helped lead to the housing crisis which helped lead to the fiancial meltdown.
By razza5350 (1545), East Hampton on Apr 7, 10 9:57 AM
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It isn't far fetched to give Clinton a portion of the economic blame, there's plenty to go around. Do you think if the next president is an Obama disciple, and the economy hasn't ressurrected entirely that George W would get a free ride? Use your head, man.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Apr 8, 10 5:00 AM
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.

Can you say, "not just a river in Egypt"?
By Mr. Z (6222), North Sea on Apr 8, 10 9:33 PM
Ruthless. Short-sighted. And, lazy. Rather than negotiate 10% cuts across all three Stony Brook campuses, Stanley effectively shuts down one: Southampton. He might have thought this one big cut would be *easy*. We could prove him wrong.
By hola (2), east hampton on Apr 7, 10 6:45 AM
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Maybe SUNY should look to cutting executive salaries:
"Dr. Stanley will receive an annual state salary of $400,000. Dr. Stanley, in recognition and support of his ongoing research, will receive $100,000 per year from the Research Foundation of the State University of New York. The Stony Brook University Foundation will provide $150,000 annually in compensation or deferred compensation. Dr. Stanley will be provided university-owned housing at the Stony Brook University campus and will also ...more
By hola (2), east hampton on Apr 7, 10 7:20 AM
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Our government officials, such as Anna Throne Holst, Thiele, LaValle, and Bishop should start work to create new laws to prevent the closure of Southampton College. They need to create a new charter for the Southampton college, based on a real undergraduate vision. To do otherwise would be to squander another opportunity to get it right. Stony Brook SUNY faculty have absolutely no interest in undergraduate education, which is why they dumped the college, rather than keep their commitments. ...more
By Tree Man (18), Southampton on Apr 7, 10 7:46 AM
Maybe the county could step in and provide that campus as another community college campus. The Eastern campus in Riverhead is so crowded they have trailer classrooms. Maybe an offering of courses further east would help ease that burden and keep the campus out here as an active part of the community. Just a thought...
By LocalMom (36), Southampton on Apr 7, 10 8:12 AM
Not a bad idea (I hate agreeing with you)
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Apr 8, 10 5:05 AM
For shame --- Stony Brook shoved the radio station out, destroyed a beautiful facility, cost those trying to save the station considerable time and money to find an alternative space, all the while knowing they were going to do this. No wonder they can't make a go of it --- they have no vision or, perhaps, interest in 'their' community.
By Nancy Q. (27), east Hampton on Apr 7, 10 8:25 AM
Can some please explain to me what our elected officials do? Albany is a wreck! We have some of the highest taxes in the country! Our cost of living is through the roof! The only thing our local politicians do is bicker and point fingers at each other! Deficits and scandals... And now this! You've got people from all over the country BEGGING for a collage education.... All elected officials should be paid "Pro bono" until the job is done. This just disgraceful and sad so very sad...
By Soundview (87), Hampton bays on Apr 7, 10 8:49 AM
There is a student rally planned for 2:30 PM today(4/7/10)in the Avram Auditorium at the Southampton Campus. Pres. Stanley is supposed to be attending as well. We are hoping to see as many members of the local community there as possible showing solidarity for our mission to keep this campus open!
By Cdwyer213 (68), Quogue on Apr 7, 10 9:18 AM
Maybe they can raze it down and put up the shinny's big new casino there. New jobs, new tax revenue, better access to drugs, prostituation, and legalized gambling. New business such as pawn shops, strip clubs and liquor stores are bound to arise. All right on 27. Who needs an education anyway
By razza5350 (1545), East Hampton on Apr 7, 10 9:55 AM
Well put, Mr. Razza.
By rss0246 (23), East Hampton on Apr 7, 10 11:31 AM
its time for those indians to do their part and step up to the plate
By kuali (8), southampton on Apr 7, 10 10:12 AM
Are you kidding? I am often amazed at the amount of blatantly racist comments folks post on these boards. This is NOT the deep south folks. Evolve.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Apr 7, 10 1:28 PM
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...meanwhile they're building new buildings in Stony Brook and just finished a major renovation to the gym? I have friends that go to both campuses and the ones in Stony Brook only wish their classes were here in Southampton. Stony Brook is more a commuter school while they look at Southampton more as a community school. Dr. Stanley you should be ashamed for making hasty decisions without the input from the community who has supported all the work the college has done through whatever name it had....
By LMVT (47), Shinnecock Indian Reservation on Apr 7, 10 10:26 AM
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Simply an incredible assault and insult to the East End. If they are going to close the campus then the land should be donated to any one of the local organizations that will preserve it as open, undeveloped space FOREVER!!
By barberosa (36), Watermill on Apr 7, 10 10:39 AM
i can see it now..... Senator LaValle and Thiele dressed in shining armour charging up the hill toward the windmill..... for the good of the people of course. They'll say whatever to whoever and go back to their respective hidey holes. at least the whale in easthampton knew when it was time to quit.
By uncleronk (136), southold on Apr 7, 10 11:42 AM
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This comment cracked me up--so well put and so true!!
By Mrs.Sea (202), Sag Harbor on Apr 7, 10 12:27 PM
Wow. Way to go Stony Brook!! Lets cut an entire campus instead of cutting a percentage of jobs all around! You have got to be kidding me. This community needs a college and has grown since the start of Stony Brook Southampton. You have spent all this money to fix up the campus and now you are going to shut it down.
I think Pres Stanley should be ashamed and FIRED!!! What about all of these kids that have started this year wanting to graduate from this school. Also the jobs of those that ...more
By Local41 (1), southampton on Apr 7, 10 11:55 AM
Typical:

The university gets a 33M subsidy and offers barely double digit courses.
1. if the economic model were viable then it wouldn't need the subsidy.
2. the model for education is virtual...not 81 acre campuses in areas that are barely populated in the winter time.

By Hambone (378), New York on Apr 7, 10 12:34 PM
I'll say it again, and again, and again:

It seems like they always have the money to pocket excessive salaries, but no money to invest in the future...

By Mr. Z (6222), North Sea on Apr 7, 10 1:02 PM
No matter who is in any office today, they have a huge mess to clean up thanks to Ayn Rand, Alan Greenspan, and Bill Clinton, to name the top three.

Ayn Rand was a Russian born author under communism, and the post Bolshevik revolution Soviet Union. Her most famous work is probably "Atlas Shrugged", and she believed in a "lassiez faire" take on economics. Her greatest disciple was Alan Greenspan, who ran the treasury for about twenty years. His view on NOT regulating the economy allowed ...more
Apr 7, 10 1:25 PM appended by Mr. Z
Silly me, I forgot about Robert Rubin being in that crowd that gagged Brooksley Born.
By Mr. Z (6222), North Sea on Apr 7, 10 1:25 PM
wonder how many mansions they will fit on that lovely piece of land......
By Talbot77 (51), southampton on Apr 7, 10 2:25 PM
We've got to hang out for a football game sometime.

I'll be going on 26 years as a fan this season.
By Mr. Z (6222), North Sea on Apr 7, 10 10:40 PM
The savings to be gained by teaching Sustainability to a new generation of students would more than offset the apparent short-term savings IMO.

A very short-sighted and DUMB move!

Who is in charge of this, and other recent East End developments (i. e. MTA payroll tax and LIRR schedule cut-backs)?

Is the Speaker of the Assembly looking for a showdown?
By PBR (4365), Southampton on Apr 7, 10 3:55 PM
Mr. Z. Ayn Rand believed in objectivism, character, and earning your way through life. The problem with the derivative crisis and other past and future crisis is human greed, human evil, and human immorality. You cannot regulate human morality by government. In fact, government in collusion with a small handful of corporations led to the current fiscal crisis. One might call it crony capitalism, which is all about staying in power. God knows more regulations will not help, as it will further stifle ...more
By grimag (38), southampton on Apr 7, 10 3:57 PM
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Is that why Alan Greenspan recanted his beliefs before Congress?

The lack of regulation is what led to what is probably the greatest degree of disparity in History.

Earning your way through life, I don't disagree with.

Lassiez faire, I wholly disagree with.
Apr 8, 10 10:39 PM appended by Mr. Z
Georgist explanation In his posthumous work "The Science of Political Economy" published in 1905 Henry George traced the many financial crises in the USA in the 19th century to bank lending practices linked to asset bubbles in the market for land. As land is a scarce resource, it lends itself to such speculation. The speculative bubble bursts when the banks run out of money and can no longer lend for such speculative investments. Bank insolvencies follow as the asset price drops and speculators are unable to pay back the loans. This is similar to subsequent speculative bubbles in other asset markets, including equity and mortgages. In short, this is not a theory of economic collapse proper but an explanation of shortcomings in bank lending as a cause of financial crisis and economic collapse.
By Mr. Z (6222), North Sea on Apr 7, 10 10:39 PM
Stony Brooks failure to notify the CWA Local 1104 that they plan to eliminate our members jobs is a violation of our collective bargaining agreement. It looks like Dr. Stanley does not view the union or it's workers as partners. One can only hope that Congressman Bishop and Senator LaValle can make him see the error of his ways. The CWA will make SUNY follow every article in our contract to protect our members rights. Shame on Dr. Stanley
By gbloom (1), Farmingdale on Apr 7, 10 5:11 PM
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what about the UUP and its members?
By bailey (51), East Hampton on Apr 7, 10 6:11 PM
New article posted, link not yet above.

Peconic University will take over campus.

Peconic County will lead the way.

Peconic Bay Regional Transportation Authority will provide the transportation.

Mr. Silver, please get out of the way.
By PBR (4365), Southampton on Apr 7, 10 6:51 PM
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Absolutely shocking! Before the heads really carry through this threat I wonder, Has anyone in the top tier thought of other ways to save that little gem of a school? Well, it really isn't so little when one contemplates the kind of education and students they have given to the commuity and the world.
In the many crisis facing us I wonder has any CEO ever thought of taking a pay cut? Don't start I've already been laughed at for that but seriously, The high prices in all aspects of our life ...more
By summertime (492), summerfield fl on Apr 7, 10 8:17 PM
Shinnecock College?
By PBR (4365), Southampton on Apr 7, 10 8:24 PM
Mr. Z..Alan Greenspan’s entire tenure at the Federal Reserve was one devoted to distorting market outcomes in the pervasively controlled financial markets, including the mortgage market. The Fed by its nature wields enormous power over the market as it dictates the money supply and interest rates, which in turn determine lending, borrowing, and bank leverage throughout the economy. Early in Greenspan’s tenure, some expected the onetime opponent of the Fed and supporter of a gold standard to minimize ...more
By grimag (38), southampton on Apr 8, 10 8:41 AM
So, you feel his intent was malicious, and had nothing to do with his "hands off" approach that the market would regulate itself?
By Mr. Z (6222), North Sea on Apr 8, 10 9:25 PM
This is terrible. First off, this has been a failing school prior to SBU acquiring it. Second, there seems to be no sense of liability to the employees who have uprooted themselves and their families to dedicate their lives for the idealism of an Eco school in SH. These poor people and the students were sold a bridge...
By oldenoughtoknow (1), middle island on Apr 8, 10 10:35 AM
Such a shame that a school has not been able to succeed in such an affluent area like this one. It just doesn't make sense.
By reality 101 (137), East Hampton on Apr 8, 10 11:38 AM
I went to school at Southampton College and was editor-in-chief of school newspaper. If anyone knows Tim Bishop and his managerial skills, It's me. Tim worked his butt off to save Southampton College, but LIU never put in a credible fund raising entity. Private colleges do not operate on tuition alone. Should Congressman Bishop have had a bake sale? Did you do anything to save Southampton College? How about Stony Brook Southampton? No? I thought so.
If you don't like Tim Bishop, don't vote for ...more
By DOC (9), Riverhead on Apr 8, 10 1:11 PM
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