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Sep 7, 2010 4:28 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

Three Republican candidates will battle on Tuesday for right to challenge Bishop in November

Sep 7, 2010 4:28 PM

The three men vying for a Republican Party nomination in this Tuesday’s primary election, with the ultimate goal of unseating incumbent U.S. Representative Tim Bishop of Southampton in November, have a lot in common.

Randy Altschuler of St. James, Chris Cox of Westhampton Beach, and George Demos of Ronkonkoma are all in their 30s and hold degrees from Ivy League schools. All three list job creation and tax cuts at the top of their respective priority lists, and all want to repeal recent national reforms to the health care system.

But that hasn’t stopped them from scrapping bitterly to distinguish themselves as September 14 fast approaches. On that day, the three hopefuls will face off in a primary election for a shot at unseating Mr. Bishop, a Democrat who is seeking his fifth two-year term representing the 1st Congressional District, which spans most of Suffolk County, including East Hampton, Southampton and Brookhaven towns.

Another battlefront opened up last week when a court ruled that Mr. Cox, a businessman and the grandson of late President Richard Nixon, should be allowed to challenge Mr. Altschuler, also a businessman, for the Conservative Party nomination. Although Suffolk County Conservative Party leaders picked Mr. Altschuler as their candidate in April, Mr. Cox gathered more than 850 signatures from party members, according to his campaign, and intends to force a second primary vote to challenge Mr. Altschuler.

While a State Supreme Court judge originally rejected his bid, the Appellate Division of the State Supreme Court reversed that decision on August 31, allowing Mr. Cox to run as a write-in candidate for the Conservative Party line on September 14—the same day as the race that will decide the Republican nomination. Mr. Altschuler will be the only name to appear on ballots in the Conservative Party primary race, but voters will be able to write in other names, including those of Mr. Cox and Mr. Demos.

As of August 25, Mr. Altschuler has led his rivals in the campaign financing department, throwing in $2 million of his own money and raising $800,000 from individuals, financial records show. When contributions from political action committees are taken into account, his total bankroll rises to $2.9 million.

Mr. Cox has also loaned his campaign a hefty sum—about $1 million—and has raised another $500,000 from supporters. Mr. Demos has raised about $500,000, almost entirely in individual contributions, campaign finance records show.

Their potential opponent, Mr. Bishop, has raised about $1.9 million so far, with $1.1 million coming from individuals and the rest coming from political action committees.

In separate interviews, the three potential Republican candidates all claimed the conservative mantle, saying that, if elected, they will seek to spur job creation in Suffolk County by cutting spending in Washington, D.C., and lowering taxes.

Chris Cox

Mr. Cox, 31, said he was born and raised in Manhattan but spent a “significant amount of time” in Suffolk County, which he called the place that shaped him. His family has long maintained a home in Westhampton Beach, where he said he now lives. He studied politics at Princeton University and earned a law degree from the New York University School of Law.

Now, Mr. Cox, who is engaged to be married, runs a business consulting firm called OC Global Partners, which has offices in Manhattan and advises companies about how to sell products in overseas markets. That business experience, he said, will help him tackle what he called the most serious challenge facing Suffolk County: the dwindling job market. He predicted that the issue would dominate the conversation leading up to the general election in November.

“I knock on doors several hours every day, and overwhelmingly what I hear people are concerned about are jobs and job creation,” he said.

Mr. Cox said that, if elected, he will aim to create jobs by tackling a “spending problem” in Washington, D.C., brought on by the administration of President Barack Obama, and cutting taxes. In particular, Mr. Cox said, he would look to save money by pulling funding from the recently passed national health care reform bill, which he said “contains a lot of waste.”

As a businessman, Mr. Cox said, he would also be in a position to pitch for employers to move into his congressional district. “I want to be a congressman who will go out and bring businesses in, have them relocate to Suffolk County,” he said.

Mr. Cox touted his familiarity with East End issues, saying he would work to stop family farms from disappearing, remove restrictions on fishermen, restore the deteriorating coastline, and maybe even get the hamlet of Flanders its own zip code.

“There are all of these things I know about because I’ve grown up and lived them,” he said.

Randy Altschuler

Mr. Altschuler, 39, was born in Manhattan and settled in St. James three years ago with his wife, Cheryl, a doctor. They have a 3-year-old son, Noah, whose birth, Mr. Altschuler said, inspired him to run for office.

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Three teapartiers clinging to policies that brought this country to economic ruin while trying to distract from their lack of qualifications by focusing on socially divisive issues like abortion.

Learn from the past, kids, tax cuts to the wealthy do not create jobs, but increase deficits and the health care reform that you like to refer to as a "government takeover" is still run by private insurers. The conservative mantle = failed policies.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Sep 8, 10 9:41 AM
The Dems took a bad situation and made it worse. I agree though that the focus throughout govt is off the mark. I don't care if there is a D or an R next your name, if you lower payroll taxes and reduce the cost of health care then businesses will start hiring and that will help everyone. Abortion, same sex marriage, mosque locations don't mean much when you are worrying how your going to feed your family.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Sep 8, 10 1:49 PM
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The month President Obama took office America was losing nearly 800,000 jobs a month. Again, the month our current President took office, we were losing 800,000 jobs a month - America lost 4 million jobs in the four months before Obama took office. The dems made it worse? I don't think so.

I do, however, agree on lower payroll taxed and affordable healthcare.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Sep 8, 10 2:23 PM
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By 27dan (2149), south hampton on Sep 8, 10 6:59 PM
You have nothing of value to contribute so you revert to puerile misogyny. Pathetic, but not unexpected.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Sep 8, 10 8:23 PM
Coming from someone using the term "teabagger" with all it's vulgararity intended, your hypocrisy is really galling.

By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 8, 10 9:16 PM
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My above comment says "tea party" and was a direct reference to the article, not any individual poster. Besides "Teabagger" is a word coined by your own teaparty compatriots when they began their "teabag congress" campaign.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Sep 8, 10 9:37 PM
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Tax cuts for the wealthy are the greatest contributor to disparity, and breakdown of infrastructure.

Also, they create false "philanthropists" who bathe themselves in luxury, all the while creating the disparity that caused the need for charity in the firstplace.

Quite a Catch-22, eh?
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 9, 10 2:10 PM
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just shut up already
By joe hampton (2932), south hampton on Sep 10, 10 11:09 PM
What is the obsession with the healthcare bill? These guys should be asked:
-Do you want to remove the 'no pre-existing condition' provision? Please tell that to your cancer patient constituents - to their face.
-Do you not want healthcare to be portable from job to job? Tell that to the people you pretend to care about that have lost theirs.
-If making people buy healtchare is unconstitutional (as many Repub states leaders have claimed and are taking the fed gvmt to court over) then ...more
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Sep 8, 10 10:43 AM
Look Laszlo, You getting as hysterical as you Fidel Castro Avatar looks. We do want health care reform... just not redistribution of wealth. after we defund, repeal and replace the recently passed government-run health care with a system that actually makes health care and insurance more affordable by enabling a competitive, open, and transparent free-market health care and health insurance system that isn’t restricted by state boundaries.
Its good you brought up auto insurance because the ...more
By joe hampton (2932), south hampton on Sep 8, 10 11:53 AM
So you approve of our country being a Plutonomy?
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 9, 10 6:40 AM
The Gvt is not the answer to everyones problems. Bigger GVt equals more dependency and more debt. If we dont reign it in the bubble will burst and you wont have to fear Plutonomy anymore.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 9, 10 9:35 AM
Tim Bishop is a cancer on our community, so I am counting on one of you guys to come through for the real Americans in Southampton. This town simply cannot abide anymore Pelosi brown-nosing yesman leftwing radicals like Bishop. He's just a pawn.
By SHPredatorDept (72), Southampton on Sep 8, 10 12:26 PM
So which one will it be? The unknown right-to-lifer George Demos? The big-time job exporter Randy Altschuler? Or the silver-spoon carpetbagger Chris Cox? Any one of them will have a hard time beating Tim Bishop, even with all the rabid dogs out there baying for his head.
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Sep 8, 10 1:46 PM
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And Randy Altschuler isn't a carpetbagger??? Sheesh!
By Frank Wheeler (1735), Northampton on Sep 8, 10 5:17 PM
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True enough, and you could say the same of George Demos, for whom I understand Shelter Island is only a second home. Whatever you think of Tim Bishop, he's a genuine local. There may be an argument for electing people who are newcomers to Washington, but not people who are newcomers to the district they're supposed to represent.
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Sep 9, 10 12:14 PM
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I wonder what the percentage of pro-choice vs. anti-abortion is on LI. I don't see it as a really make or break issue here. Mr. Demos seems to think it is.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Sep 8, 10 1:54 PM
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Mickey Mouse would be a better candidate than any of the above.
By lifesaver (108), speonk on Sep 8, 10 3:32 PM
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These guys will be running against mickey Mouse
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 8, 10 3:52 PM
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mickey doesn't have a birth certificate
By uncleronk (136), southold on Sep 9, 10 8:52 AM
These three seem to be battling over who is more socially conservative.
I guess no one told them that the east end has a proud tradition of supporting the individual, and following the "live, and let live" ideal. Where do they think they are, Topeka, Kansas perhaps ?
By EEGO (10), Bridgehampton on Sep 8, 10 3:42 PM
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An individual like Timmy right? An individual who stands up for their constituents and votes and acts in the best interest of their constituents like Timmy right? Whoever wins the GOP nod cant do any worse than Pelosis lap dog
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 8, 10 3:56 PM
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razza, you are so angry and vindictive. Can't you just address the topic at hand calmly and with facts? Seriously, we know you hate democrats, but to say that Tim Bishop does not act in the best interests of his constituents is to completely ignore the fact that his constituents have elected him to office no less than four times. What you mean to say is that he does not act in YOUR best interests, so just tell us what he has done that is so terrible, besides being a democrat.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Sep 8, 10 5:54 PM
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Progress now (LOL) Sounds like you are talking about yourself. The laundry list of things Timmy has doneto hurt his constituents is countless and his reign as Pelosis lap dagh as ended. If you would like an example of how he has hurt us lets start with health care reform. "I will not vote for the senate version of the bill. This bill will be a tremoundous burdon to the taxpayers of New York State and if called upon I will say no." That was Timmy speaking prior to the Brown getting elected in MAssachusetts. ...more
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 9, 10 9:27 AM
So his vote to do away with pre-existing conditions, to allow college kids to stay on their parent's insurance, and to keep insurance in the hands of private insurers is the terrible thing he has done? Well then I certainly hope he gets another term to continue his terrible reign of destruction.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Sep 9, 10 11:00 AM
Lol. Where did you pull that from. In NY state you can cover your dependents to age 29 and prexisting conditions have always been covered in NY as long as you have had coverage. You can also not be dropped due to a prexisting conditions. Please get your facts straight. Timmy himself was opposed to the senate bill because it expanded Medicaid eligibility and strangled NY taxpayers. He convienently changed his mind upon brown's election because it was the only way to still ram this pile of garbage ...more
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 9, 10 7:39 PM
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By year round (22), southampton on Sep 8, 10 3:55 PM
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Is it too late for Kabot to run? She's awesome and has the criminal track record we need inside the Beltway!
By littleplains (305), olde england on Sep 8, 10 5:01 PM
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She would be better than these three clowns!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 8, 10 6:20 PM
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Stop being so amusing...progressnow spent decades developing that pinched, bitter liberal face and anything more than a sarcastic smirk might make her skin crack.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 8, 10 9:21 PM
You seem to be obsessed with me, unrealityperson, especially since you refer to me in a reply to someone else's comment.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 8, 10 9:42 PM
My bad, thought you were referring to me, but it is actually progressnow you seem to be obsessed with. I am too.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 8, 10 9:45 PM
If you are going to use so many different user names, make sure you log on with the right one first ;)
By flyonthewall (30), Southampton on Sep 9, 10 8:15 PM
We share a computer but it sounds as though you may be speaking from experience? For a flyonthewall you sure are a busybody.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 11, 10 11:08 PM
Don't worry, peoplefirst, TG is still upset that her plot to destroy Tuckahoe was foiled!
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Sep 12, 10 1:43 PM
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By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 8, 10 6:23 PM
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Ice said --- >Rage and hatred are the fall back argument for something that can't be defended with facts or common sense. The other more inflammatory word is racism, when you don't approve of something that has to do with someone of a different nationality or ethnicity it is attributed to racism. Ironically this is done by bigots," Apr 24, 10 4:17 PM So....Lets make fun of the Greek gentleman's eyebrows. Your a class act ICE. Thank you for helping me make up my mind. You got my vote george !
By joe hampton (2932), south hampton on Sep 8, 10 6:52 PM
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Well, you certainly studied the candidates' résumés and made a rational choice!

How 'bout "None of the Above," but any of them instead iof Bishop?
By Frank Wheeler (1735), Northampton on Sep 8, 10 6:58 PM
I was making a joke, how is that bigoted? It has nothing to do with him being Greek. I made no reference to ethnicity, race or nationality. If anything he is the is the one I would most likely vote for out of the 3 considering he didn't supplement his campaign with his own money, so I don't worry about him looking for kick back during his term to compensate his investment.
Now if I were to have said how could anyone vote for a Greek with the state that country is in, you're comment would be ...more
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 8, 10 8:56 PM
Remember January of 08? That was when we were girding for the next GREAT DEPRESSION! The economic stimulus averted economic collapse in the
United States.
C-A you promote the failed policy of Hoover….do nothing and let big business save the economy…..that was and is PURE INSANITY!
Tim Bishop has my vote!

By SHNative (554), Southampton on Sep 8, 10 11:05 PM
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If you were to substitute postponed for averted in your above comment it would be more accurate.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 8, 10 11:30 PM
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By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Sep 9, 10 2:38 PM
Seems like Demos is the only one who didn't have millions to spend on his own campaign. Or, loan to it as the article states.

More money doesn't always mean a better kind of candidate, just more bread to cover said candidate's flavor...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 9, 10 6:42 AM
Does anyone know where these candidates stand on the issue of illegal immigrants?
By ADAMSG (53), EAST QUOGUE on Sep 9, 10 8:19 AM
Well, at least Bill McGintee is not running....
By Dayo (33), Sag Harbor on Sep 9, 10 8:38 AM
Hey C-A where were all of you when our economy was healthy and our then President took us into an almost pointless war that cost us, and is costing us hundreds of billions of dollars?
Tim Bishop voted against that fiscal nighmare but when we spend money here in America for Americans you folks out on the far right try to paint him negative.
We will be paying for the war in Iraq for the rest of our lives.....Bishop tried to stop it. What did you do?
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Sep 9, 10 11:17 AM
please get your facts straight
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 9, 10 12:02 PM
Please, for once SHNative, give us a link showing where Saint Tomothy voted aginst the war in Iraq.
Your claims , once again are a complete unfounded and undocumented fabrication.
By Terry (380), Southampton on Sep 9, 10 12:05 PM
At NO time during the 21st century was our economy "healthy".

The ILLUSION of healthy, yes, but nowhere near such. It was a blatant, and recklessly irresponsible circus, based on fabricated capital in a black contract derivatives market. That market was basically Vegas, doped up on a combination of LSD, and PCP. A glorified casino, where losing was very unlikely for those who could manipulate the market into TRILLIONS of dollars, with no real capital to back it up. It was like giving ...more
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 9, 10 2:02 PM
That is a flat out lie. Timmy never voted on the bill (Iraq war) deemed HJ resolultion 114 because it took place in October 2002. He was not yet in office. He DID vote for Hr 1159 in 2003 which allocated over 60 billion to the war effort in Iraq. Timmy is nothing more that a tax and spend liberal. He has voted yes to almost every spending bill that has crossed his desk.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 9, 10 12:01 PM
I guess i am not allowed to say Cox here at 27east even though i have to read it repeatedly on the way to work.

Stop littering on our highways with your crappy campaign propaganda.
After one good rainfall all that paper turns to litter.

Cox - grandson of tricky Dick
A name we are appearantly not allowed to mention
By year round (22), southampton on Sep 9, 10 12:05 PM
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By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 9, 10 5:29 PM
Joseph Goebbels would be proud of you censorship ambitions!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 10, 10 6:17 PM
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By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 10, 10 6:20 PM
It appears someone did like Cox signs in their face as they drive down the road, because they reported my comment as inappropriate. Let be reasonable Editor, try to preserve your dignity as well as the first amendment!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 10, 10 6:20 PM
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By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 9, 10 2:05 PM
Year Rounder - I think the editor objected to your inappropriate and poor attempt at humor.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Sep 9, 10 2:31 PM
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Maybe...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 9, 10 11:14 PM
So an Offshore Outsourcing Pioneer and Enemy of All American Workers is Actually Running for Congress on Long Island, New York! Are LI'ers MORONS? Randy Altschuler of NJ (who tried to grease the skids to run for Congress in NJ first but was rejected) is a former top firm investment banker who made a FORTUNE offshoring American jobs from NYC to India utilizing his company, OfficeTiger, which he formed with another investment banker. Randy Altschuler SPECIFICALLY USED HIS CONNECTIONS AS AN INVESTMENT ...more
By PatrioticNYer (1), New York on Sep 9, 10 2:57 PM
Enough with the removing comments for a minor infraction, Please, I thing we can handle it. I realy hate P C police stop your sniveling !
By joe hampton (2932), south hampton on Sep 9, 10 3:45 PM
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yes, joe, stop your sniveling
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 4:44 PM
The failed stimulus that Tim Bishop voted for cost more than the Iraq war and didn't help a single solitary person that needed it. An early Congrats to Altschuler who is going to win on Tuesday. All you lefties are welcome to your opinion, but you have serious troubles in District 1 NY and you would be best served trying to figure out how you are going to separate the hatred that people have for Nancy Pelosi from Mr. Bishop. You will have to find a way to distance yourself from Tim's votes for ...more
By Sparkibew (28), southampton on Sep 9, 10 6:14 PM
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I would personnaly like to see Randy or George oppose bishop but the most important thing is the canidates unite with the sole purpose of sending bishop packing.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 9, 10 7:46 PM
With Bishop in bed with the union thugs, wall street robber barons, billionaire hedgefunders, blue chip communications concerns and the inside the beltway democratic syndicate and he will be very difficult to defeat.
By Sparkibew (28), southampton on Sep 9, 10 8:28 PM
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By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 9, 10 11:22 PM
Whenever "Big Money" is introduced to one side of the equation, the influx of propaganda usually has that side winning.
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 10, 10 2:25 PM
And, if Mr. Bishop thought the healthcare reform was so great, he wouldn't have voted to exempt himself from a victim of it - As did the other Democrats who voted for it. If you want the healthcare reform bill repealed, vote for Randy Altschuler.
Sep 9, 10 8:36 PM appended by Sparkibew
take 2 "..., he wouldn't have voted to exempt himself from being a victim of it - ...
By Sparkibew (28), southampton on Sep 9, 10 8:36 PM
The funny thing about it is the actual bill that bishop voted for he did not like. In fact he opposed it and favored the house bill. He folded to his voters and yielded to pelosi like a spineless jellyfish. Unfortunately this bill will be next to impossible to repeal and future generations will be saddled with monstrousity
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 10, 10 12:05 AM
OH COME ON!

That was funny...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 9, 10 11:12 PM
You see Z thats what I am talking about! What are we children. (Lets not keep score at the Southampton press soccer game, So everyone feels like a winner) Tos are one thing but this is ridiculous in here.
By joe hampton (2932), south hampton on Sep 10, 10 9:57 AM
You know what actually might be cool, is a running tally of how many "likes" a user has. Over at MajorGeeks.com, they tally how many "Thanks" a user gets over time.

But, that may be like keeping score...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 10, 10 2:29 PM
Maybe they are afraid children read this?

This will be heated. Politics seldom is not.

One way or the other, at least there were a few "likes" here and there, before the "Big D" key came down...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 10, 10 2:23 PM
Its funny that Tim Bishop sends a piece of junk mail to the house that explains he is worried about american jobs being outsourced resulting in americans that lose work. Yet, he is a full blown amnesty puppy who thinks its o.k. for everyone and their brother, sister, cousin etc..to come into the country illegally and crush our infrastructure under the weight of their blank stares and extended hands. For the survival of our way of life, this inside the beltway skunk who sold his soul to Ms. Pelosi ...more
By Sparkibew (28), southampton on Sep 10, 10 5:13 PM
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By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 10, 10 6:27 PM
Seriously how old are you? 12??
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 10, 10 7:22 PM
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If it was directed at Bishop you would love it.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 11, 10 5:20 PM
Just saw some 9-11 footage, GW lost It at the end with Tarp but watching him in the hours after the buildings fell was inspiring. Thank you Mr President for being so presidential. I salute you ! And I believe history will portray you in a different light than the 2008 election did.
By joe hampton (2932), south hampton on Sep 10, 10 11:07 PM
I think he lost it when he agreed to let the towers be knocked down in the first place. It was a fine bit of acting immediately following the false flag operation.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 11, 10 12:14 AM
Maybe we should just move Hollywood to D.C., it seems like every one of these guys are great actors.

Maybe we should elect another one to the White House, since it went so well the first time around...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 11, 10 12:26 AM
that's tasteful ICE.
By Sparkibew (28), southampton on Sep 11, 10 8:55 AM
Tasteful? The amount of coincidences surrounding that day are ridiculous. I'm not buying the official conspiracy theory put forth by the same people that said the air at ground zero was safe to breathe. We all know how true that was!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 11, 10 5:24 PM
ICE you put so much time into adding absolutely nothing.
You post " Let be reasonable Editor, try to preserve your dignity as well as the first amendment! "
Reasonable and dignity... how very elusive, ICE.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Sep 11, 10 11:02 AM
Folks, take a good look at what PatrioticNYer posted up above (Sept. 9, 2:57 PM) about Randy Altschuler's outsourcing history. Notwithstanding some overheated language, the basic facts are all true. Please note especially that the only Americans he'll hire are salespeople to convince other businesses to export jobs through his company, and the telling remark that Long Island will become a laughingstock if we elect Mr. Office Tiger the Job Outsourcer to Congress. What a bad joke this guy is!
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Sep 11, 10 11:06 AM
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Niether one is okay! Outsourcing jobs and allowing illegal aliens to come here and work are both treasonous IMO. I say hang them all, both the outsourcers and bleeding heart liberals who condone illegal immigration.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 11, 10 5:27 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, this time in CAPS:

"IT'S NOT SO MUCH WHAT YOU SELL, BUT WHO AND WHAT YOU SELL OUT TO BUY YOUR FUTURE THAT MATTERS."
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 13, 10 12:33 AM
The teaparty has forced Republican politicians to turn their backs on sensibility, decency, and moderation and instead turn to fear, hatred, and distrust. The teaparty political philosophy is a cancer upon our public discourse which sprang, not from grassroots anger or frustration, but from the pockets of powerful business interests like the Koch brothers and ultra-conservative political groups like Dick Armey's freedom works. It is a direct result of the election of our first black president ...more
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Sep 11, 10 1:27 PM
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!
Dagdavid, You hit the nail on the head!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Sep 11, 10 5:38 PM
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Still waiting for you to show us where Mr Bishop voted against the Iraq war, SHNative.
By Terry (380), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 3:23 PM
When all else fales dogdavid goes to the race card
By joe hampton (2932), south hampton on Sep 11, 10 11:11 PM
If you were to switch the parties and some of the names in dagdavid's post, the exact same could be said about ''the other side''. its all fear, hatred, distrust, big money - on both sides, on all sides, actually. Sounds like dagdavid should be reminded of that silly saying "don't hate the playa, hate the game".

By Sparkibew (28), southampton on Sep 12, 10 6:16 AM
(ok, look, I actually did that, see what I mean?)

The extreme radical left has forced democratic politicians to turn their backs on sensibility, decency, and moderation and instead turn to fear, hatred, and distrust. The radical left political philosophy is a cancer upon our public discourse which sprang, not from grassroots anger or frustration, but from the pockets of powerful business interests like the George Soros and his ultra-leftist political groups like open society institute. ...more
By Sparkibew (28), southampton on Sep 12, 10 6:28 AM
Nice work, Sparkibew, and as a semantic exercise, of course your version has some appearance of truth. But ask yourself, between your version and dagdavid's, which one reflects more accurately what's going on here in the First Congressional District of New York today, as we speak? I say it's dagdavid's. In another time, it may be your version, but not now.
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Sep 12, 10 10:33 AM
"Perish those who said our good things before we did."

Aelius Donatus
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Sep 12, 10 10:50 AM
for people like you we just nod and utter "whatever you say pal".
By Sparkibew (28), southampton on Sep 12, 10 8:09 AM
George Demos was an enforcement attorney with the SEC from 2002-9: the period when Wall Street, mortgage brokers, banks and insurers were busy fleecing the public and destroying the economy. And they still are.

Randy Altschuler is busy trying to block the Mosque in lower Manhattan, but doesn't find any irony in saying he wants to "Defend our Constitutional Rights and Freedoms".

Chris Cox is a self-described tea-bagger trying to ride the coattails of Sarah Palin (Queen of the ...more
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 12, 10 12:48 PM
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I expect the most radical of these candidates to win on Tuesday and then Tim Bishop's road to re-election will be that much smoother. Just as in Nevada where Harry Reid had no chance of ever being re-elected until Sharon Angle stormed onto the scene, the teaparty is doing a wonderful job for the dems!
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Sep 12, 10 1:23 PM
I am sure whoever wins "in your eyes" the canidate will be radical
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 13, 10 7:35 AM
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Whether you like her or not, Pelosi is one of the most intelligent, hardworking and effective speakers of all times. Palin is a 1/2 term moron.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 2:29 PM
Pelosi isn't ignorant, she's just another self-serving political opportunist. Palin is without a doubt the stupidest person ever pushed in front of a national television camera.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 5:25 PM
Financial expert, publisher, and former presidential candidate Steve Forbes today announced his endorsement for Chris Cox in New York's 1st Congressional District, citing the need for strong voices in Washington willing to fight for fiscal sanity and sound tax policies that will unleash the private sector to create jobs and help restore America's economic growth and vitality.
It's all about the economy. And Chris Cox gets it," Forbes declared.
A steadfast pro-life fiscal conservative, ...more
By joe hampton (2932), south hampton on Sep 12, 10 7:07 PM
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I agree Steve is a very clear thinker and his endorsement carries a lot of weight. I would have liked to see him win the presidency when he ran. I don't think people were ready for the truth back then but now it seems some have grown up and seem ready to call out the far left.
By 27dan (2149), south hampton on Sep 12, 10 7:50 PM
Hah! That's funny. You're talking about Steve Forbes, right? You guys crack me up, seriously.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 2:31 PM
As far as his endorsement goes, McCain and Giuliani consider it the kiss of death.

Forbes is just billionaire looking for another personal tax cut. The so-called "flat tax" he endorses is a regressive tax that would further shift the burden onto the ever-shrinking middle class and increasing number of working poor. He would also do away with both social security and medicare.

Amazing how self-styled flag-waving Reagan-worshiping conservatives will repeatedly and vociferously ...more
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 12, 10 11:58 PM
No sir, We vote with the founding fathers for Life, Liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness, not the guarantee of some socially engineered utopia. Its called capitalism and it fosters the kind of freedom that people will die for the opportunity to participate in.And the fair tax is just that. Fair!
By 27dan (2149), south hampton on Sep 13, 10 1:32 AM
It's all social engineering. The kind you like supports big corporations that own government, utilize tax shelters to avoid paying legitimate taxes, send American jobs overseas, conduct war for profit, erase pension plans to increase shareholder returns, sell anything to anyone as long as there is a profit, etc. That's the very antithesis of an individual's life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Micro capitalism - an individual's opportunity to conduct business and earn profit - is ...more
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 12:35 PM
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Hey, Ronnie, the founding fathers were among the most liberal and enlightened folks of their time and they would roll over in their graves at the idea of the radical right and the tea party!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 3:31 PM
As far as I can see, Demos is the only one who fits the bill as "a man of the people".

He's not some privelged, country club member, and he fought AGAINST the Wall St. that almost destroyed this country.

Least of the three ills, Mr. Demos...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 13, 10 12:37 AM
Yet another legacy of Bush, Cheney, and the right:

Even as the United States has been borrowing trillions to pursue its wars in the Middle East, the government of Iraq has posted a tidy surplus, according to a new Government Accountability Office report.

The report makes a direct link between U.S. government spending -- including $642 billion on U.S. military operations there and $24 billion for training and equipping the Iraqi security forces -- and Iraq's cumulative surplus of ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 4:02 PM
Remember the planeloads of cash that just disappeared? Palette after palette shrink wrapped with stacks of $100 bills - $12 billion worth, some 360 tons of paper currency - unaccounted for. And Paul Bremer (who also disbanded the Iraqi army, pretty much single-handedly creating the insurgency by unemploying hundreds of thousands of trained military personnel) got a Presidential Medal of Freedom ... and who knows how much cash. Meanwhile our boys are still dying over there while Blackwater mercs ...more
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 5:08 PM
But abortion is just fine? Yup just fine. How many lives have been erased for convenience since 9 /11 ....and even if you believe you ridiculous numbers on Iraqi dead you forgot to mention most of them were killed by Chemical Ali and his first cousin Saddam Insane, The ultimate Bigots killed his own in a sick act of ethnic cleansing of Kurdish rebels of the north, and the Shia religious dissidents of the south. Woman and children it did not matter............uh Noah you still there?
By joe hampton (2932), south hampton on Sep 13, 10 6:16 PM
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The 2nd Lancet study, peer reviewed and conservatively made (eliminating data from Fallujah), estimated up to 942,636 Iraq civilian dead as of mid-2006 (only 2-1/2 years into a 7 year war that continues as we speak). But of course it can't be true - Bush discredited it.

The estimate of 55,000 insurgents killed is from National Review online. The cost per insurgent of $13.6 million is simply the cost of Iraq war to date (some $750 billion not including Afghanistan) divided by 55,000.

Iraq ...more
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 7:46 PM
Joe, Thank you for so perfectly demonstrating the rethug tactics perfected by Dick Armey and Newt Gingrich - when you have no ideas, bring up abortion! Classic.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 8:01 PM
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This just in, the deficit has gone DOWN 8% in the first year of Obama's presidency. That's right, the deficit is now 8% LOWER than it was when Bush left office and that is WITH the stimulus. Put that in your teapot and brew it!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 8:08 PM
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Kind of the way you side runs to the race card except my comment is backed by hard numbers sad ones at that.
By joe hampton (2932), south hampton on Sep 13, 10 9:08 PM
Let's face it Joe. The real race problem here is either that your president is black or pro-choice (or both).

"Choice" is another word for "freedom". It means that someone else isn't deciding something for you. But you get to decide for someone else? That not just ironic, it's ignorant.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 11:06 PM
Lets face this.... Choice is another word for Murder. End of story.
By joe hampton (2932), south hampton on Sep 14, 10 8:35 AM
No choice is totalitarianism. It is the government dictating what you can and cannot do. Sounds like China, you'd probably like it there.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 14, 10 10:59 AM
Hey joe we need to stay out o the Bushes,
Allow the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans to expire.Like O siad, some folk have made enough money.Time to spread the wealth baby.
By local 84 (302), riverhead on Sep 13, 10 9:19 PM
Don't parrot the language of conservative talking points.

"Spread the wealth" is the kind of talking point that conservatives use to trumpet cries of socialism and communism. A more accurate way to describe it would be to abandon a tax code that favors the wealthy and penalizes the working class.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 10:55 PM
See what I mean? The talking point is spun into a rage of fear and resentment by those who live in fear and denial.

The red menace is upon us! Eliminate social security, privatize medicare and every police and fire department (liberal social services) in the US. COMMUNISTS! Vote Palin 2012! She can see Russia!

These people are so ignorant and brainwashed they don't realize that the real redistribution of wealth is that their taxes are given to wealthy corporate interests to conduct ...more
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 13, 10 11:37 PM
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Do you just make this stuff up or has someone been feeding it to you? The Bush tax cuts clearly benefit the wealthy - the top 20% income bracket - over everyone else. See the chart here:

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/background/bush-tax-cuts/account.cfm

You decry "redistribution of wealth" but refuse to recognize where your money is being redistributed to and the process by which it happens. You hate "socialism" but aren't prepared to do away with the taxpayer funded ...more
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 14, 10 10:38 AM
Captn, why would you oppose privatizing the PD and FD? And while we're at it, why not let for-profit companies take over public water and sewer responsibilities? Oh, I know - because you don't want to call the FD when your house is on fire, or the PD when someone has broken into your house, and be told no one's coming to help because responding to those types of calls just isn't profitable enough.

PD, FD, clean water, sanitary sewer services - they're all directly related to our health ...more
By CoweeDewey (110), East Quogue on Sep 14, 10 11:35 AM
Nice quote job, Captn - but you don't understand. Obama's plan (now endorsed by John Boehner) preserves the Bush tax cuts for everyone earning under $250K. Why do you want to keep tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans? Because it will somehow trickle down?

Enough of your hypotheticals - here's some non-hypothetical reality from today's Bloomberg news online, titled "Rich Americans Save Tax Cuts Instead of Spending, Moody's Says." The opening sentence: "Give the wealthiest Americans ...more
By CoweeDewey (110), East Quogue on Sep 14, 10 12:21 PM
What's not BASIC about your personal health? Or mine? Or anyone else's? In fact, what could possibly be more basic than our health? Isn't our health the most important thing in our lives? Remember the old saying, At least we've got our health?
By CoweeDewey (110), East Quogue on Sep 14, 10 12:24 PM
The only reason health care is not a "community" service is because the for-profit model has made health insurance prohibitively expensive to most people. If cost were not an issue (i.e., if it was supported through taxes), health care would be the most basic community service of all.

Yes, unlike many, I've been fortunate enough to have selected a number of health plans, and all leave something to be desired. One size does fit all - it's the "size" that says that, whenever you need health ...more
By CoweeDewey (110), East Quogue on Sep 14, 10 1:24 PM
I'm doing my best to keep up...

My point is that, if you're earning over $250K, you can absorb a return to the higher tax rate more easily than if you're earning $25K. My point is also that the ENTIRE argument the GOP puts forth on preserving tax cuts to the $250K+ crowd is the 'trickle-down' theory, namely, that the taxes they save will somehow make it back into the economy and generate jobs. That's simply not true. So without that, what's the argument to extend the tax cuts for the ...more
By CoweeDewey (110), East Quogue on Sep 14, 10 2:49 PM
re health insurance
You're kidding when you say healthcare is available for every person in America, right? That's like saying an estate on Further Lane in EH is available to every person. It is, but for a price that few can afford.

And the only reason health insurers might profit more from Obamacare is because the GOP killed the public option, which was the only way to force true competition in the health insurance industry. Again, to protect this private, for-profit industry.
By CoweeDewey (110), East Quogue on Sep 14, 10 2:55 PM
Obamacare (Palinspeak adopted by fundamentalists and corporatist Republicans) was written and approved by Congress, Republicans and Democrats alike. It was not written by Obama.

And like pretty much everything else that comes out of government that consists of corporate stooges, it is a huge giveaway to corporations, in this case insurers and drug companies. Funny how conservatives don't object to that but cry "socialism" at the very thought of a basic public service that everyone would ...more
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 14, 10 6:13 PM
You go Noah tell um you have the testicular fortitude and the knowlege to stand up to this crowd. And I dont see a probem with the redistribution its time we gets some too. 250.000 a year pleaseeee, and you want me to feel sorry for you ? NOT
By local 84 (302), riverhead on Sep 14, 10 9:16 AM
Yeah Noah, you tell um, you have the testicular fortitude and the knowledge to stand up to this crowd. You know, as an anoymous poster. Yes we can! Oops, wait, I actually be Dr. Dre's wife and I don't appreciate Jay Z, taking my benjamins. Maybe Kanye has something to say about this. Uh oh, I think Don Cornelius is on the phone....he on the sooooooooouuuuuuuulllllllllllllll train.
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Sep 14, 10 11:34 AM
It's a small town, and if you know some of us, you know who we are FROM our monikers...
By Mr. Z (9530), North Sea on Sep 15, 10 10:16 PM
yo cow, if your making 25k you ain't payin' taxes. i can assure you, that you have absolutely no clue about which you are talking. obama has raised taxes on the middle class significantly, bend over and wait for january then come back here and talk to us. at the same time, noahway also has absolutely no clue about the healthcare reform. if he think he's getting cheaper care and that the only thing that was missing from obamacare was a public option, she is sadly mistaken. but i do like how ...more
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