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Aug 27, 2010 5:04 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Congressional candidate Cox joins anti-abortion activists in protest at Bishop's office

Aug 27, 2010 5:04 PM

Republican congressional candidate Chris Cox joined anti-abortion activists in Southampton Village on Friday, August 27, in a protest in front of Democratic incumbent U.S. Representative Tim Bishop’s East End office.

Mr. Cox is vying for the Republican nomination in a primary race with George Demos and Randy Altschuler. He is guaranteed a spot on the ballot in November regardless of the results of that primary, because he has secured the Taxpayer line. He is also seeking the Conservative nomination.

See the video for what Mr. Cox, the grandson of Richard Nixon, had to say.

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Mr. Cox, thankfully, you do not have a snowball's chance in _____. You and your fellow teabaggers claim to be concerned with government overreach but you want to tell women what they should and should not do with their own bodies? Pathetic, out of touch, and ignorant.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Aug 27, 10 5:56 PM
I’m wondering how protesting against the practice of twisting and tearing the bones of babies with forceps until their bodies are dismembered and removed, or poisoning babies by injecting them with saline solution, or suffocating them to death, or pulling them out by the legs to jam scissors into the back of their skulls to suction out their brains translates into “you want to tell women what they should or should not do with their own bodies”. How about the baby’s body? And as far as “government ...more
By drafthorses (3), Southampton on Aug 28, 10 1:21 PM
70 percent of Americans wanted a public health insurance option, but we didn't get that. A majority of Americans were against desegregation and the civil rights act, but, thankfully, we got that. A majority of Americans favor gay marriage, but we don't have that. Don't tell me about a majority of Americans.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Aug 28, 10 11:16 PM
Babies? Babies are born. Fetuses are in utero.
By culturaladvocate (4), Brookhaven on Aug 28, 10 11:19 PM
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WASHINGTON (AP) - If Democrats had doubts about the voter unrest that threatens to rob them of their majority in Congress, they needed only look from the Capitol this weekend to the opposite end of the National Mall.

By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 29, 10 3:09 PM
Madam, Eliminating a defenseless baby gives things like yourself a greater feeling of control over your sexual activity and helps eroded your social and psychological resistance to premarital sex. "No fault" divorce, a term borrowed from the field of auto insurance, in reality has amounted to unilateral divorce and has begone to undermine the idea of marriage as a binding mutual contract oriented toward the procreation and nurturing of children. Contrary to nearly every prediction, the ubiquity ...more
By 27dan (2148), south hampton on Aug 29, 10 3:45 PM
Amazing, we try harder to save the whales and murder unborn babies. My, how brave the left is.
By MickNY (43), East Hampton on Aug 29, 10 5:20 PM
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There is a lot less whales on the planet!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 29, 10 7:59 PM
Dude premarital sex is like, well let's just say a "test drive". Would you buy a vehicle without driving it?

There are more than enough unwanted, starving and abused children in this world.

Do we really want to legislate ourselves into further overpopulation.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 29, 10 11:04 PM
ya keep telling yourself that
philathome
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 30, 10 1:00 AM
speaking of loooooossssers, did you see the pix of Obama bike-riding on the vineyard???? How do you spell DOOOFFFUS?
By uncleronk (136), southold on Aug 30, 10 10:58 AM
NBC Aug 30 10 AM - based on a comparison of available photos from the Beck, Obama and MLK events, a crowd of 300,000 (the maximum allowed by the National Park Service permit) in the areas occupied by the Beck rally would have been packed significantly tighter.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 30, 10 11:40 AM
Science tells us life starts at conception, God said He knew you when He formed you in the womb. So because they don't look like us we give someone the right to kill them. During slavery people were told blacks were not human and this helped people to say slavery is OK. The supreme court also agreed but we see that was wrong. People are human no matter what color or what age, give them life liberty and the chance for the pursuit of happiness.
By Jr (7), Sag Harbor on Aug 30, 10 9:35 PM
When did you speak with God? Do you know that what he/she/it says even if an entity such as that could even do so, if it were to be real, does not figure in to our system of government and is therefore irrelevant.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 31, 10 2:40 PM
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Inside or outside, it makes no difference what you call the preborn. It’s still a person. When did you become you? Nothing was added to you to make you more human after the moment of fertilization, nothing but nutrition. All DNA was in place. You were fully alive and fully human. What do you think makes the preborn not a person? Is it size? What size does one need to be in order to be human? Are tiny, premature babies not human? Is it location, as you indicated? How is it that being in one place ...more
By drafthorses (3), Southampton on Sep 1, 10 10:34 AM
Apparently the Hyde Amendment is ineffective. Planned Parenthood collected $349.6 million in government grants and contracts in 2008. Planned Parenthood kills over 5,000 innocent human beings per week. You can’t tell me all of those pregnancies were a result of rape, incest or endangerment of the life of the mother. Also, seventeen states (AK, AZ, CA, CT, HI, IL, MA, MD, MN, MT, NJ, NM, NY, OR, VT, WA and WV) do use public funds to pay for abortions. About 14% of all abortions in the United States ...more
By drafthorses (3), Southampton on Sep 1, 10 11:17 AM
It is killing a baby, say it anyway you want it is killing a baby. It is dupes like you who use leftist logic that brought us the 'final solution' that saw the murder of millions of Jews. It is leftist ideology that saw the birth of the eugenics movement, it is leftist logic that tells us you know what, it is okay to kill the helpless and the weak.

I saw an estimate that 50 million babies have been murdered by your 'legal medical procedure' since Roe vs Wade. 50,000,000 in the US alone; ...more
By MickNY (43), East Hampton on Sep 1, 10 5:01 PM
As a hardcore leftist along the lines of Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro I understand that the truth is simply disregarded when it doesn't align with your agenda, but tell me, if a majority of Americans support gay marriage, why has it been defeated EVERY single time the question has been put to the voters?
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 5, 10 12:12 PM
When the American people tell you exactly what they think of your leftist views in the next couple of election cycles, remember to tell them, loudly, just what you think of them. Once the people of this nation understand that the left hates the vast majority of them, believes their country is the root of all evil and the world would be better off without it, you and your twisted views be consigned to the dustbin of history.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 5, 10 12:17 PM
Read this guys' comments in the Star: like a lot of Tea Party candidates he makes generalized statements about wanting "freedom" from government but when pressed he still wants federal $ coming to the area (e.g., he says "money from the federal government should be used for projects to drive the business community to make more investments.") Sorry, Chris. If you are a Tea party candidate you can't ask the feds for money or get special treatment (what you might call a "special interest"). Every ...more
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Aug 27, 10 6:07 PM
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By greenmonster (13), southampton on Aug 27, 10 9:24 PM
Teabagger or Carpetbagger? Where does Mr. Cox live and work? Where did he vote in our last election? What has he done for the residents of the East End in the last 10 years?
By metsfan2 (126), southampton on Aug 27, 10 9:46 PM
Sure was okay for Hillary. Oh I forgot, she was a scum sucking liberal so that is okay, carpetbag away.
By MickNY (43), East Hampton on Aug 29, 10 5:19 PM
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A double standard coming from the left??? Hard to believe.

Hey lefties, how's that Black Democrat Congressional Caucus working out for you? Where's your outrage now?
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 5, 10 12:24 PM
Such an opportunist. Grabbing at every straw just to get to Washington. Privileged up bringing, knows nothing about grassroots people, does know his father is NY state GOP chairman. Family's probably a friend of local billionaire David Koch who is pouring millions into tea party coffers - see this week's long New Yorker article. Nothing like big oil money to fuel a tea party.
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Aug 27, 10 11:11 PM
Nixon's grandson.... enough said.
By ICE (1207), Southhampton on Aug 27, 10 11:50 PM
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Obama's father and grandfather were marxists, enough said.
By MickNY (43), East Hampton on Aug 29, 10 5:21 PM
Guess what genius I don't like Obama and it isn't because of who or what his father and grandfather were. I don't like him because he is a puppet for the globalists and doesn't have the cojones to stand up to Israel.
I am not as simple as you, I will not blindly support either side of the isle. There is good and bad in both sides ideologies, unfortunately more bad in both!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 29, 10 8:06 PM
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Da Furor! Hail Obama!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 29, 10 10:54 PM
His signs are so annoying, they are everywhere!
By ICE (1207), Southhampton on Aug 27, 10 11:52 PM
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like most liberals, the opportunity to say Cox and Teabagger in the same sentence was too much for her to pass up. But, you should know that while you're worried about abortion, you voted for Obamacare. You're whole, government out of my Virginia argument doesn't really past muster anymore. You voted to have government up your toucas. Whats a few inches.
By HW Jablome (21), southampton on Aug 28, 10 7:21 AM
Life is full of irony! Conservatives and teabaggers claim they want less government but, when you get down to specifics, it's only less of the parts of government they don't like. They'll happily spend every last dime this country has, with minimal oversight, on "defense" but they will pinch the pennies on education or health.
They don't spend less, they spend it differently. They don't lower total taxes, they just change the source... generally onto the shoulders of others while they get ...more
By baywoman (153), southampton on Aug 28, 10 11:27 AM
So a gay woman teacher who is an atheist is their ultimate nemesis?
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 29, 10 8:08 PM
This guy Cox lives somewhere else, right? Or he did until last year or something, still has his apartment in Manhattan, still works there, still spends most of his time there. So how can he represent us?
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on Aug 28, 10 12:30 PM
Funny I bet you did not feel that way about Hillary
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 29, 10 3:17 PM
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Hillary Clinton didn't say she was a long-time resident of New York when she wasn't. Cox makes noise about his family being in the East End forever, but they're summer people, they always have been. Chris Cox stays at his uncle's house sometimes, but he doesn't pay taxes here, or work here, or even live here most of the time. Hillary was up front about being a newcomer, but Cox tries to make it look like he's a homie, and that's garbage. And remember, Hillary was a player in Arkansas and Washington ...more
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on Aug 30, 10 10:36 AM
Good for you Baywoman, Libs big on Education and Health, Repubs big on defense, helping the rich and they like to wrap themselves in the flag rap. You have a yellow belt in not thinking for yourself and spewing whatever they feed you in class and then on cnn. Please turn your voter registration card in at your next non-profit cocktail benefit.
By HW (21), southampton on Aug 28, 10 1:34 PM
First of all, HW, I never used the word "Republican." You just did. I mentioned conservatives and teabaggers! Are you saying all Republicans are conservative &/or teabaggers?
All one had to do was pay a nano-second's worth of attention to the health care debate to see where political division lay. Same on "defense" spending (notice I use quotes around the word "defense" because I'm not against defense but half the crap used by some under the heading "defense" because it's hard to justify being ...more
By baywoman (153), southampton on Aug 28, 10 4:12 PM
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Anti-choice and the Tea Party are strange bedfellows.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Aug 28, 10 4:40 PM
death to unborn innocent. No to the death penalty and redemption for murders. Liberal logic
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Aug 29, 10 7:09 PM
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baywoman, its not all about us v. them, but that is exactly what ''they'' want you to believe. cocktail party means you're rich, yellow belt means cowardly, republicans, teabaggers and all that. the only us. v. them is the governing elites v. you and I. the faster we get together the better. the longer people like you believe all of the divisive nonsense you consume from the government/media/public education complex - the longer our nation's problems will continue.
By HW (21), southampton on Aug 29, 10 8:17 AM
I'm pro-choice to the point that I stand behind the Hyde legislation.

I'm also fully behind "planned parenthood". Contraception isn't always a 100% solution, but abstinence is.

As long as it is allowed for issues like this to make it us vs. us, instead of us vs. them, NOTHING will be accomplished. HW is absolutely right, and as I have said in the past, leave the Polemics out of your arguements. When logic and good sense are trumped by emotional passions, well, that's when things ...more
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Aug 29, 10 10:58 AM
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Stop the killing , How do you live with your selfs. If you have already done It and you were young ask god to forgive you and hope that he will. If your older and have no conscience about advocating the death of the Innocent. Just tell me how do you look in the mirror every morning? How?
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 29, 10 3:15 PM
I remind myself that while you may not include me in your heaven, you, joe, will be in mine.
By jackie0 (2), southampton on Feb 2, 11 10:08 PM
joe hampton, that's not right at all. first, if you ask god for forgiveness...its not a ''hope that he will'' proposition. you're good. but at the same time, life happens to lots of people and you don't have to be so harsh in your condemnation of people that are involved in very difficult and personal decisions. and, its not always easy for them to look in the mirror...so cool it dude. you know not of which you rant.
By HW (21), southampton on Aug 29, 10 3:26 PM
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joe, imagine if it was your life, or the life of a fetus.

How would you choose?
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Aug 29, 10 3:41 PM
You forgot to mention that the mother started the fire intentionally. Maybe that was the problem?
By Blackjordan (15), Sag Harbor on Aug 30, 10 3:21 PM
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I understand Z. There are Exceptions to everything. And HW I hope I have not caused you any pain. Its just attitudes like Progressnow has must be challenged there is to much at stake for both the unborn and the surviving mom.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 29, 10 3:56 PM
Look at the image you use as an avatar. Your hatred and prejudice make you irrelevant. Keep the government our of your life but give them the power to control mine? Sorry, Joe, your hypocrisy is astounding and, despite the media's obsession with the teaparty, your numbers are dwindling and your message is overwhelmed by your fears.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Aug 29, 10 4:30 PM
Just curious why is he prejudice? Is it because Obama is half black and not agreeing with his policies makes one a racist? Or is it because Liberman is Jewish and he doesn't agree with him? Maybe both?
You want to talk hypocrisy, you are against changing the 14th Amendment to close the "Anchor Baby" loophole that is being exploited and was not within the intent of the 14th Amendment. There is a big difference between granting citizenship to the children of people who were brought here against ...more
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 29, 10 7:47 PM
Indeed, understanding Society can be worse than learning German...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Sep 1, 10 4:48 AM
I remember this old episode of the "Twilight Zone" called "A Penny for your thoughts".

The one line by Dick York that stood out in the entire episode was "Y'know, people are not what you think they are at all. They do things without thinking about them, and think about things without the slightest intention of doing them."
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Sep 1, 10 4:54 AM
@razza

"death to unborn innocent. No to the death penalty and redemption for murders. Liberal logic"

I was thinking more along the lines of the tea-bagger's war cry of "get the government out of the way" and the anti-choice platform of having their belief system enshrined in legislation. But I wouldn't expect a bagger like razza to understand such ironies.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Aug 29, 10 10:40 PM
The real irony here is a bunch of guys who don't have to carry the child to term, having so much to say about something which they can't possible understand at the level of a woman, much less a woman who is in the difficult position of having to decide how to proceed with an unplanned/unwanted/unsafe pregnancy.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 29, 10 11:01 PM
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Listen Ice don't feed us that crap its not selling very well anymore, What happened to decency and personal responsibility.Its just a Calais self centered view point . If you find yourself in a position of unplanned and unwanted does that give you the right to toss a living miracle into the trash. Have the courage to at least give up the child for adoption. Give the baby a chance,.or are you afraid you might get attached to the child and have to tough it out. Sorry if that sounds insensitive to ...more
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 30, 10 1:36 AM
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By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 30, 10 1:37 AM
It should be a woman's choice, not your moral values imposed upon her. The give it up for adoption is easy to say, but a whole lot tougher to go through. There far two many children in substandard foster care and starving and homeless all over the world that need to be adopted first. Take care of those who are here before mandating that people bring more into this world.
My mother was forced by my hard line Catholic grandfather to give up her first born, because the father chose not to marry ...more
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 30, 10 2:04 PM
How can I "un-like" this comment?

Actually, ICE, most pro-lifers are women (including every single woman in my extended family). Moreover, many of them became pro-life AFTER having an abortion. How's that for CHOICE?
By Blackjordan (15), Sag Harbor on Aug 30, 10 3:24 PM
And who speaks for the child you have decided to terminate. The child who never had a chance to become someone. The child you robbed of his or her chance to breath air. Its not to late to change Ice. Please listen to what you are saying. just stop for one second and listen to what your saying.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 30, 10 5:25 PM
I'm can not and will not change my position that the option should be available. If we make it illegal it will still take place on the black market. Just look at our successes in making drugs illegal, the war on drugs is a disaster. If abortion is illegal those with the desire to abort will find ways to do so anyway.
I am not promoting it as a form of birth control, just an option along with adoption, hormones and the most noble abstinence.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 31, 10 2:47 PM
Sorry for the double post
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 30, 10 1:42 AM
The sad part here is that all these protesters do just that protest. Suggest to any of them that they get into the trenches and help the children born into the bleakest of circumstances, and all they will do is run, and run fast. There are far too many issues facing us today than telling a women what to do with their body.
By EEGO (10), Bridgehampton on Aug 30, 10 8:51 AM
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EEGO I think you miss the point of the religious right. They do not have a problem with giving a woman the freedom to do what she wants but they do have a problem with what they consider murder. I have always been confused by the lefts support of abortion yet being against on the death penalty. It almost seems like a warped contraditicion
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Aug 30, 10 10:54 AM
They don't have a problem with giving a woman the freedom to do what she wants unless she wants to make a choice that effects no one but herself. Razaa, just be glad you'll never have to make such an excruciating decision and leave women their personal liberty to choose. This has nothing to do with the death penalty.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Aug 30, 10 12:08 PM
The wrapped contradiction is coming the religious right who are of the same ilk who participated in the "Holy Wars". Is it only okay to kill those who don't believe in the same fictitious God that you do? Religion is such a sham, more people have been killed in the name of God and religion than anything else throughout history. Please don't condemn abortion as murder from a religious standpoint, as it is the most hypocritical position to take based on thousands of years of history.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 30, 10 2:12 PM
How selfish you sound
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 30, 10 5:27 PM
her choice effects no one but herself??? How about her unborn child??
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Aug 30, 10 10:20 PM
Why should it be an "excrutiating decision"? It's just a bunch of cells, right? No different than having a wort removed.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 5, 10 12:28 PM
oh who cares, the ability to get an abortion or not is not at risk. the problem now is that the folks who want to have the right to abortion protected have just signed over the sum total of their healthcare decision to the federal government/media/public education/george soros complex. so it doesn't matter anymore anyway. none of it matters...you're all pawn in "the man's " power grab. you can argue for your rights - but you keep signing them over to the fed. that's the big irony here folks.
By HW (21), southampton on Aug 30, 10 12:13 PM
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You've clearly been drinking too much of that tea-bagger kool-aid.

And you've got the wrong complex - it's financial-military-industrial, and it owns politics, dems and reps alike.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 2, 10 7:24 PM
The abortion debate will never be settled. But if you agree with the Tea Party platform you also have to support:

-Less govmt in personal lives: that includes legal abortion and being able to marry whoever you want. Anything else would require judicial activism
-No gvmt subsidies: that means energy, farm subsidies, defense contractors, even medical research. I want the head of the Tea Party to tell everyone with a straight face that they want to stop funding cancer research, Alzheimer ...more
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Aug 30, 10 1:05 PM
I agree with what you say here, except the part on the constitution, it is a living document and can and should be amended from time to time. The first 10 Amendments (Bill of Rights) are considered part of the original document and should not be touched. The 14th in particular in no longer relevant in relation to "Birthright" citizenship due to there being no slaves here to give birth anymore. This portion of the 14th should be struck as it has fulfilled it's original intent and is now being exploited ...more
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 30, 10 2:19 PM
While we are at it, let's get rid of FEMA, the NIH, Centers for Disease Control, and the FDA. Let the market take care of its citizens like God intended! That's why Jesus threw the money changers out of the Temple, to get the real businesses in! After all, the market did a spectacular job in Dickens' day.
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Aug 30, 10 1:12 PM
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Yes, let's get rid of FEMA, FDA and DOE!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 30, 10 2:26 PM
That all sounds good, especially dissolution of FEMA, NIH, Centers for Disease Control and the FDA. I'm with you on legal abortion, marrying whomever you want, no gvmt. subsidies and government currently only funds 36% of medical research, so sure, get them the hell outta there too. constitution is fine the way it is and sure overturn all rules that gives special rights. absolutely. i would say we can have disabled people have special rights because it isn't based on color, creed, religion or ...more
By HW (21), southampton on Aug 30, 10 1:20 PM
Nope. The market should take care of the disabled. Why don't the gimps just buy a hovercraft for access to buildings and public monuments (which btw, should also be decommissioned and sold).
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Aug 30, 10 1:32 PM
"Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?" (I Corinthians 6:19).
Say I got drunk and slept with the guy from Accounting. Got me pregnant. Since my body is a temple (see above) then I have the right to protect it from the creepy guy in Accounting's DNA (c'mon I was feeling LONELY. And, he was being sweet until he asked me to pay for my own cab fare home). The Bible can't be wrong.
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Aug 30, 10 1:30 PM
HAHA, "The Bible can't be wrong" Was it not written by man? I thought you were smarter than this.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 30, 10 2:30 PM
then, i would have to say that the teaparty people exhibit significantly more compassion. the deal is off. we tried to include you in the solution, but you proved to be too aggressive and abstract. your attempts to shock with the pregnant, holy spirit thing is completely falling short - not all tea party people are evangelicals. that's where your small mindedness fails you again. but since this is all conjecture, you'll have to wait until november to become a vocal minority. this i have heard ...more
By HW (21), southampton on Aug 30, 10 1:38 PM
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I don't mean to imply that Tea Party supporters are evangelicals, only that the majority of them are hypocrites. They are selective in their beliefs - which is human - but their leaders speak in absolutes. That is the danger.
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Aug 30, 10 2:01 PM
Laszlo, you don't know anything about the tea party supporters. And, that HW guy owned you. You should stop while you are ahead. I voted democrat for 32 years and because I REJECT the POLICIES of the current administration, I have looked for a found someone willing to take them on. You will never get your mind wrapped around the concept of a wholesale rejection of you and people that believe in your ideas.
By Arthur187 (3), Southampton on Aug 30, 10 2:13 PM
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I know something about the teabaggers: They are right-wing, bigots whose hypocrisy is eclipsed only by that of their leaders, Beck and Palin. As Robert Sinclair so presciently declared, ""When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag carrying a cross"
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Aug 30, 10 5:40 PM
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By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Aug 30, 10 10:15 PM
Hurricane Earl must be getting closer!
By PBR (4819), Southampton on Aug 30, 10 5:14 PM
For those that think "we people" know nothing about the Tea Party or for those who just want to get educated: you might want to read this truly in-depth, non-partisan, detailed and insightful article about the subject published by a right-leaning, conservative magazine (Bill Kristol, one of the earliest supporters of Sarah Palin for VP is the editor): http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/two-faces-tea-party

Read up or shut up. Let me know if it's too long for you or the words they use ...more
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Aug 30, 10 5:23 PM
Non-partisan? Right leaning? LOL

The Weekly Standard bills itself as "a weekly conservative magazine". Bill Kristol is Chairman and one of the founders of "The Project for the New American Century", the neocon policy group behind two Bush terms and the Iraq invasion. Their plan was coauthored by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and such noted intellectual luminaries as Dan (patatoe) Quayle and I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby (scapegoat leaker for Cheney in the Plame affair, whose ...more
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 2, 10 7:34 PM
Laszlo we will not shut up. See you in Nov. Good night sir I must go now Glen beck is on in 5 min . Peace be with you.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 30, 10 5:33 PM
This is what I was talking about: you'd rather watch Beck than read a serious piece of journalism about what he stands for and his effect on politics. Enjoy the Goldline commercials.
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Aug 30, 10 5:37 PM
You would be surprised how much I read friend
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 30, 10 6:45 PM
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By PBR (4819), Southampton on Aug 30, 10 5:59 PM
And FYI, I stock seeds, Dried food, Water, Ammo and Silver The way this guy is printing $ you would a fool not to. When it gets real bad maybe the United Nations will come In their little blue helmets and save you.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 30, 10 6:53 PM
Joe, perhaps instead of stocking up on ammo and silver (I guess you plan on hunting werewolves?) perhaps you should dial back the hate and anger, read something about American history (not the teaparty's version, but historyy written by historians) and fight the real enemies of democracy: ignorance, fear, bigotry, and corporate power. By the way, President Obama was not put into power by Muslim overlord intent on overthrowing the US, he was duly elected by a large majority of the American public. ...more
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Aug 31, 10 10:50 AM
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No Obama wasn't put in power by the Muslims he was chosen by the Bilderburg Group.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 31, 10 2:51 PM
I had to join this chat. It looks fun. Laszlo, PBR and the rest of the klan here are all worked up?! The president is the most radicaly leftist in history, they've got the mainstream media wrapped up tight, the have most print media in their back pocket, they own the public education system, the unions are theirs, they seemingly have every latino and black american - yet they are SUPER freaked out about an ex am radio DJ? Talk about trying to squash the opposing point of view! And if all of ...more
By progessivesrtoast (21), the springs on Aug 31, 10 7:25 AM
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Hey, you guys are pretty clever around here, I just read that Laszlo Lowenstein is Peter Lorre's birth name. He was a Hungarian Jewish actor, frequently cast as a sinister foreigner. Poor guy suffered from Morphine addiction. Do you folks feel like chatting about Al Sharpton? Remember him, he lied and claimed that a NYC cop threw human waste on Tawana Brawley. I think he is a horrible man and it is a darn shame that somehow he became elevated to whatever he is today. He hates Glenn Beck too. ...more
By progessivesrtoast (21), the springs on Aug 31, 10 7:31 AM
Toast welcome to the discussion. You will find when you ask a question that does not have a comfortable answer they will ignore you
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Aug 31, 10 11:53 AM
I agree with you on that, but it seems to go both ways!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 31, 10 2:54 PM
Thanks Joe. Looks like we have a few cases of big fish little pond around here. Time to show the know-it-alls that we too can pull articles and stats and boloney from all over the place, but that the proof is in the puddin'. The proof is in real life, where many of these progressives have yet to wade. Its easy to claim that paying taxes is so great when you don't pay any, and it is fantastic to claim that everyone is a bigot when they have a problem with a protected class - but these folks can ...more
By progessivesrtoast (21), the springs on Aug 31, 10 2:16 PM
joehampton and progressive toast are the Beck and Palin of 27East! Oolong or Early Grey?
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Aug 31, 10 2:22 PM
I prefer Chai!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 31, 10 2:55 PM
I embrace a good debate but if you have a position you should also have the facts. Saying that Obama is the most liberal president ever is simply ridiculous. Just look at each issue:
Defense: he is continuing policies laid out by that leftie Bush
Economy: Bush signed TARP; under Obama the $ is coming back to the Treasury, Republicans in states that didn't have Toyota or Honda factories supported the Detroit auto bail out
Health Care: the plan that ended up passing looks a lot like ...more
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Aug 31, 10 2:40 PM
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Peoplefirst (at 458 comments you do the tea thing? you should be ashamed of your lack of creativity) and Laszlo, you can certainly do better than that. you do understand that you have already lost. the mere existence of this page, the comments and our discussion means you have absolutely lost. Based on what you told us 2 years ago, the indonesian muslim was going to create a post racial utopia. Look, we don't owe you a thing...you had a shot and you and yours have been rejected. You are free ...more
By progessivesrtoast (21), the springs on Aug 31, 10 3:29 PM
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Keep on baggin'!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Aug 31, 10 5:01 PM
By the way, thanks for allowing me the opportunity for 460! I love even numbers.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Aug 31, 10 5:02 PM
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Tea baggers, tea baggers, tea baggers, OMG...talk about obsessed!! I think you need to find something else to do all day peoplefirst, a job perhaps?
By teachourkids (36), southampton on Aug 31, 10 10:26 PM
Always the same nonsensical response from folks like you. I am gainfully self-employed and I am actually hiring workers right now. I'd be happy to send you an application if you're not too busy harassing teachers, immigrants and everyone else you blame for your own misery.

By the way, it may take you all day to come up with your brilliant little retorts, but mine are posted much more quickly.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 1, 10 8:48 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me how the right always substitutes real policy and solutions with divisive social issues. They have no positive vision for moving this country forward so, instead, the right attempts to motivate with hate, fear, and bigotry. Lest we forget, abortion is LEGAL in this country. Try focusing on positive ways to help the middle class and bring people together.

Also, I love it when someone like teachourkids say something like "get a job" to someone expressing their ...more
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Sep 1, 10 11:11 AM
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Hey, teachourkids, someone strike a nerve! HAH! At any rate, glad to see your taking a break from screwing things up at Tuckahoe to post on the boards! Hope you're enjoying your summer!
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Sep 1, 10 4:10 PM
Quick question Laszlo - and all you "big fish small ponders" - Hurricane Earl - caused by George Bush and his anti-environmental policies right?
By progessivesrtoast (21), the springs on Aug 31, 10 3:40 PM
NO it's caused by his weather modification programs... LOL!!! Bush was a mess, but so was Clinton, Bush, Regan, Carter, Ford, Nixon and Johnson, Kennedy was the last real president we had. All those since him have been sellouts.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Aug 31, 10 4:10 PM
Kennedy? Just another over blown myth, like that Obama, all talk.
By MickNY (43), East Hampton on Sep 1, 10 5:08 PM
He may have been over blown but that was Marilyn's fault.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 3, 10 9:11 PM
Ice, so correct. Bush was an unmitigated disaster, I am not sure Reagan was that bad...Nixon and Ford for sure, Carter wrote the book and Clinton was a mixed blessing- the country hummed while he was president...but at the same time...well, I'm not saying that joke. You are a very sane person, your comments are not nearly as off the deep end as mine and you seem to be fair to all sides of issues....but I see your sense of humor shine through too. Sense of humor - that's how we can tell you are ...more
By progessivesrtoast (21), the springs on Aug 31, 10 4:16 PM
Where was Cox when bush/chaney started their war crimes and killed 600,00 Iraqi civilians?
By Nordseacap (5), southampton on Aug 31, 10 9:52 PM
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By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Sep 1, 10 4:55 AM
When the crap hits the fan, i know my enemies - the teabaggers.

As they have clearly shown disregard for others opinions.
this could have been avoided if you were a little more tolerant of the rest of us.

i will not hesitate to roll right over any of you. And by the way...you are all very easy to spot. lol

Remember teabaggers: back when you were all comfortable and complacent in the Bush years - you were all criticizing the "conspiracy theorists" and calling them out. ...more
By year round (22), southampton on Sep 1, 10 11:13 AM
whatever philathome, you do realize reagan hasn't been prez for decades and the old fogie has checked into the motel 6 feet under, so we disagree. yawn. do you have anything else? and fine you have a newsweek poll, yawn again. you all should be ashamed at yourselves. everything is cool while you run around 27east without anybody calling you on your vitriolic nonsense. but wthout newsweek and msnbc you are void of a legit, coherent, tangible, applicable thought. you do nothing to assist your ...more
By progessivesrtoast (21), the springs on Sep 1, 10 11:15 AM
oh be quite year round. you sound like you've been watching too many re-runs of battlestar galactica.
By progessivesrtoast (21), the springs on Sep 1, 10 11:16 AM
i'll take that as "quite" the compliment, thanks ; )
By year round (22), southampton on Sep 1, 10 12:32 PM
I'll stick to reading Rolling Stone...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Sep 1, 10 5:01 PM
I'm bailing- don't think there is anything more to add. My work here is done. That will make many of you happy, but it was fun while it lasted.
By progessivesrtoast (21), the springs on Sep 1, 10 12:36 PM
I offer up a challenge to all posters:
-No name calling - e.g., teabaggers, obama hyphens, etc.
-Back up your positions/opinions with facts
-Read and/or listen to considered opinions and facts outside your own echo chamber (Fox News and MSNBC included)

I think what bothers those who do not identify themselves with the Tea Party/Beck/Palin crowd the most is not their positions but their reliance on slogans, name calling and misinformation (e.g., all the rhetoric re: the "Ground ...more
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Sep 1, 10 1:02 PM
ok, i'm back. no freakin' way laszlo nice try. bush is prez and for 8 years you and your ilk were brutal. was he a great president, no, but you were brutal. google george bush and hitler, then click google images and enjoy the 800,000 pages. now that the shady attorney from chicago in the office its all kumbaya.
FAIL. we are on a roll brutha and you can step outta the way lest you get flattened by the train thats rollin' down the tracks for its final stop in november. not fallin' for ...more
By progessivesrtoast (21), the springs on Sep 1, 10 4:29 PM
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Anyone who goes in the voting booth and flips the levers based upon party alone is the uneducated sheep.
Both parties are in it for their special interests of choice. The candidates that would start out doing the right thing never make it to the two main tickets, except on rare occasions.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 2, 10 2:52 AM
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And I hope the general public is reading this, because this is nothing less then liberal playbook 101 on display in its full glory. When laszlo and his progressive buddies are getting their skirts handed to them, they feign sensitivity and try to change the rules of engagement. What a 180 degree turn. Completely predictable. Now, what comes next boys and girls that either a.) we get ignored or b.) someone is going to come through with some snide remark.
By progessivesrtoast (21), the springs on Sep 1, 10 5:06 PM
I will vote for Bishop over this guy, because I don't like Cox. Bishop seemed decent in the brief encounter I had with him. He was more genuine than Thiele although, that doesn't take a hell of a lot though!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 2, 10 2:56 AM
Do you even know if Cox has the nod? My understanding is there are two other people still in the mix Randy Altshuser and George Demos. I believe Randy is actually the frontrunner over Cox. Sounds like you have your mind made up already. Bishop. Based on your previous post you are the uneducated sheep who is pulling th lever based on party alone. Bishop is spineless and has little regard for his constituents. He votes party lines over 98% of the time.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 2, 10 9:05 AM
Wrong razza5350 I am open to another Rep other than Cox, if there is another choice I will give it consideration. But if it is Cox, yes my mind is made up.
Read my post again "I will vote for Bishop over this guy" not every and anyone.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 2, 10 5:13 PM
You go girl
By local 84 (302), riverhead on Sep 2, 10 9:05 PM
Ice, I wouldn't deny that bishop was pleasant when you met him. do NOT be fooled for a minute. I had same experience. When you peel off the layers and get to the man's root, he is a full blown elitest. He has so very little faith in us ''little people'', and believes that government is the only solution. As a career hypocrite he is completely beholden to the policies of Pelosi and Reid because he is scared to death of losing his job and rely's heavily on their support - to fill in where his ...more
By isthisguyserious? (15), hampton bays on Sep 2, 10 7:58 AM
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What you say makes a lot of sense. The beltway gang is corruptive in their very essence.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 2, 10 5:16 PM
1.) "bush was an idiot" 2.) the entire republican part is coming apart at the seems 3.) ask anyone in the world, he was the biggest idiot and worst president in history 4.) the republicans have no solid policies they just obstruct and oppose 5.) the right will lead this country into corporate facism 6.) It has an extremest agenda 7.) The extremest agenda is promoted by talk radio and fox news 8.) It attracts all the less educated.

Folks, philathome has won the award for the best post ever ...more
By isthisguyserious? (15), hampton bays on Sep 2, 10 8:05 AM
<- - - - Now now we will have none of that
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Sep 2, 10 9:08 PM
A vote for COX is a vote FOR TIM BISHOP!
I'm a moderate republican and I plan to vote FOR Chris Cox !!! WHY? Because he can't possible beat Tim Bishop. On the other hand, if super-conservative Randy ALthschuler wins the Republican nomination (he already owns the conservative line), he will have a STRONG chance of winning against Tim !!! If Cox wins the Republican line, Cox and Althschuler will split the vote. So GET OUT THERE, MODERATE REPUBLICANS, and VOTE COX !!! I DON'T WANT EITHER ...more
By jhampton (1), Southampton on Sep 3, 10 2:15 PM
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You consider yourself a moderate republican and you want Tim Bishop in office?? If you are a moderate republican than I am a liberal.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 3, 10 2:55 PM
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I inadvertently clicked like instead of reply. Jhampton has a point and it is one that us progressives are counting on - radical ideology, left or right, does not float with the average voter. Guys like Cox are so over the top, that he helps sane, moderate, well-spoken dems like Bishop. Sorry, razzaa, you are enamored of the extreme teaparty candidates but even many republicans are repulsed by such insanity.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Sep 3, 10 5:33 PM
his only valid point is that cox and Randy may split the vote which will help Bishop. To call Bishop a moderate is ridiculous. He is anything but. He has voted along with Pelosi over 98% of the time and never takes a stand for his constituents. You are out of touch if you feel many republicans favor Bishop.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 3, 10 7:24 PM
Free markets are a roaring joke as long as the Fed sets the interest rates.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 4, 10 7:27 PM
CBS) With many polls indicating the Republicans may win back control of the House of Representatives (and possibly the Senate as well) Jim VandeHei, the executive editor of Politico, told CBS' "Face the Nation" that the Obama administration is in a horrible position.
"Does the White House understand this?" asked guest host Harry Smith. "Do you feel any sense of panic or concern" on the part of the administration?
"They get it. There's panic. There's concern," VandeHei said. "The reality ...more
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 5, 10 10:21 PM
One of the negative outcomes here is that the libs have done such a thorough job screwing everything up that there from the governors to the president, it'll all be righties until the next generation comes along who forgets this experiment gone awry. That isn't very good either. We need balance here. We are seeing what happens when the public education to the media to the state gov'ts to the federal burocracy is run by a single party. nobody wins.
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Sep 6, 10 8:30 AM
I assume you're referring to 2 terms of Bush and a Republican congress.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 6, 10 5:39 PM
phil, let me see if I understand you correctly. 8 years of republicans screwed us up, and then even though the dems got everything under wraps from the judiciary to the media and its still the republicans fault. that's exactly the reason your clock is getting cleaned in a couple of months. that's utter pathetic weakness.
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Sep 6, 10 3:36 PM
The judiciary (indisputable conservative majority)? The media (5 corporations own >60% of the news media)? You ought to check what's in that tea bag you're sipping from.

The entire government - Democrats and Republicans - are both owned by corporate interests. Time to turn off Glenn Beck (who is cashing in on your ignorance) and turn on your brain.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 6, 10 5:31 PM
Thats right turn thet poor excuse for a man off. We need more stimulus now! Now! This is crazy stopping the president before he has the chance to turn the BUSH economy around. Lets get real now.
By local 84 (302), riverhead on Sep 6, 10 10:50 PM
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