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Nov 30, 2010 4:16 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

Bishop Leads Altschuler After Absentee Ballots Counted

Nov 30, 2010 4:16 PM

UPDATE: TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 4:45 P.M.

When election workers finished counting outstanding ballots on Tuesday afternoon, Democratic U.S. Representative Tim Bishop of Southampton led his challenger, Republican Randy Altschuler of St. James, by 235 votes, according to Jon Schneider, a spokesman for Mr. Bishop—but a court still needs to decide the fate of scores of contested ballots.

Representatives of Mr. Altschuler’s campaign could not be reached after the counting wrapped up on Tuesday. When asked if Mr. Altschuler, a Republican, was considering conceding the race on Tuesday morning, his spokesman, Rob Ryan, said: “We’re going to just analyze the returns as they come in this afternoon, and at the appropriate time make an informed decision.”

The Suffolk County Board of Elections was not prepared to release an official count on Tuesday afternoon, according to Ivan Young, the assistant to Suffolk County Board of Elections Democratic Commissioner Anita Katz.

Both campaigns will appear in Suffolk County Supreme Court next Tuesday, November 30, to address the 1,261 ballots called into question by Mr. Altschuler’s campaign and the 790 ballots challenged by Mr. Bishop’s campaign. Once a judge decides which objections should be thrown away and which ones are valid, it will be up to the Board of Elections to finally declare a winner.

“Our hope is we can have someone certified by Friday,” Mr. Schneider said, referring to next Friday, December 3.

UPDATE: TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 8:45 A.M.

U.S. Representative Tim Bishop ended Monday 206 votes ahead of his challenger, Randy Altschuler, according to Jon Schneider, a spokesman for Mr. Bishop.

Since last Tuesday, election workers have counted 9,200 absentee and affidavit ballots, leaving 1,912 ballots left to be counted, according to Mr. Schneider. All of the remaining absentee and affidavit ballots come from Brookhaven Town; election workers have already counted ballots from Southampton, East Hampton, Riverhead, Shelter Island, Southold and Smithtown towns.

The tally does not take into account hundreds of ballots that are contested by both campaigns, which may eventually be ruled on by a State Supreme Court justice. As of Monday evening, Mr. Altschuler’s campaign has challenged the legitimacy of 1,051 ballots, while Mr. Bishop’s campaign has challenged the legitimacy of 714 ballots, according to Mr. Schneider.

UPDATE: MONDAY, NOVEMBER 22, 6:30 P.M.

U.S. Representative Tim Bishop’s lead over his opponent, Randy Altschuler, grew to 164 votes on Monday evening, as election workers neared the end of their fifth day of counting absentee and affidavit ballots, according to Rob Ryan, a spokesman for Mr. Altschuler.

There are 2,697 ballots left to be counted, according to Mr. Ryan, all of which are from Brookhaven Town. Since Tuesday, election workers have counted 8,776 absentee ballots from the towns of Southampton, East Hampton, Riverhead, Shelter Island, Southold and Smithtown, according to Mr. Ryan.

Mr. Bishop was behind by 383 votes before the count of the absentee and affidavit ballots began last week.

The current tally does not take into account hundreds of contested ballots, which were called into question by both campaigns since Tuesday. A State Supreme Court justice may have to decide the legitimacy of those ballots at some point.

Election workers are not expected to finish counting before Thursday, when they break for Thanksgiving, according to Ivan Young, the assistant to Anita Katz, the Democratic commissioner of the Suffolk County Board of Elections.

About half of the approximately 140 military absentee ballots are included in the current count of the absentee and affidavit ballots, according to Christopher Maloney, Mr. Altschuler’s campaign manager. The other half will be counted separately, he said, because there was an error on the ballots those service members were provided with.

Today, Mr. Maloney said he was confident that many of the challenges filed by Mr. Altschuler’s campaign will hold up in court, because they are lodged against people who own second and third homes on the East End, while many of Mr. Bishop’s will prove “frivolous.” Both sides of criticized the other in recent weeks for challenging the legitimacy of absentee ballots.

Ivan Young, the assistant to Suffolk County Board of Elections Democratic Commissioner Anita Katz, has said the BOE will not release official results of the absentee ballot count until the process is complete, so the information must come from the campaigns until that point.

UPDATE: FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 8 P.M.

U.S. Representative Tim Bishop squeaked ahead of his challenger, Randy Altschuler, for the first time on Friday evening, as election workers wrapped up their fourth day counting absentee ballots, according to Jon Schneider, a spokesman for Mr. Bishop.

Mr. Bishop was leading by just 15 votes as of Friday evening, after election workers finished counting absentee ballots from Southampton, East Hampton, Riverhead, Southold, Shelter Island and Smithtown towns, and began counting absentee ballots from Brookhaven Town, according to Mr. Schneider. Mr. Altschuler, a Republican from St. James, was leading by 383 votes when the counting of some 10,100 absentee ballots began on Tuesday.

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you are probably right.
By littleplains (305), olde england on Nov 18, 10 7:17 PM
As of a few moments ago, it seems Bishop will win. The East End has the most absentee left and Bishop only needs to win 52% which he will easily do.
By FactChecker (21), East Hampton on Nov 18, 10 7:36 PM
Where do you see bishop ahead and if so is that with east Hampton or without?
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 18, 10 8:34 PM
Philth at home has not found this tread yet its so peaceful in hear
By They call me (2172), southampton on Nov 18, 10 8:43 PM
Yeah, you can actually hear the wind blowing between your ears.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 18, 10 8:55 PM
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Talk about every vote counting! What a nail biter!
By baywoman (153), southampton on Nov 18, 10 9:39 PM
Good thing I dragged my wife her sister and my stupid brother in law to vote. Yes ! I might have actually learned something of value from Acorn!
GO Randy ! GO !
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 18, 10 10:02 PM
I agree with the other comments here that Altschuler will pull it out. The bottom line is that Altschuler has done better with the absentees in Southampton than people expected, and the same is true of Bishop in Smithtown. I think the key point, however, is that of the 11,000+ absentee and affidavit ballots, almost 400 more come from registered Republicans vs registered Dems. Bishop can claim he has "momentum" but the percentage of registered Repubs and Dems who crossed party lines in this election ...more
By TimS (13), Montauk on Nov 18, 10 10:03 PM
This is exciting. The theories propounded for both a Bishop or an Altschuler win are persuasive. It's Brookhaven, Riverhead and absentee voter party affiliation v. Easthampton, Southold and the local boy.

I wonder about the absentee military voters. Have all their absentee ballots been received and how do they vote? Are they younger and poorer which would draw them to Bishop or gung-ho fighters who will vote for the party that sent them to war?

Will the source of Altschulter's ...more
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 18, 10 10:31 PM
Newsday has given me the best and most up to dare info so far
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 18, 10 10:41 PM
As of 8:24 p.m., Thursday, November 18, Newsday has Bishop trailing Altschuler by but 90 votes.
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 19, 10 12:02 AM
Randy's boy Rob Ryan is reporting that Bishop is trying to challange the abstentee votes of active military personnel. No word on that allegation yet from Bishops camp
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 19, 10 10:42 AM
razza, you are such a teparty tool. Altschuler has challenged over 540 votes already and you're going to tell quote the outsourcer's minion as a credible source?
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 19, 10 1:04 PM
Obviously he is bias and I am merely stating what his camp is saying. By the way I am not a member of the tea party and am not sure why that information warranted an attack by you
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 19, 10 1:24 PM
Randy is challenging votes that may be cast by people may be NYC residents and may even be voting 2x.
Bishop is doing the usual Demoncrat thing and trying to challenge military overseas ballots.
By smacw (222), New York on Nov 19, 10 8:02 PM
Randy's first and last week in Washington DC is coming to a close.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 19, 10 3:02 AM
I will have to take a look at Newsday. Assuming both Bishop and Altschuler
received 95% of the absentee votes of their respective parties, then Bishop
would have to win above 65% of the "blank" votes in order to win. Of course, this is just reaind of tea leaves. But my prediction is that the "blank" votes
may slightly favor Bishop, but not enough to win.
By JDBeeee (3), East Hampton on Nov 19, 10 5:24 AM
Wait, I thought the Press reported he had won? Look, neither the Press nor Newsday has the correct info. In fact, there is not a single factual item that they have reported on this race that was accurate. I'm not trying saying anyone is ahead, I'm suggesting that it makes absolutely NO sense to hang your hat on anything one of these reporters writes.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 19, 10 7:13 AM
Aren't you the one who claims to already know the results? HAH! What a fraud.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 19, 10 10:16 AM
Please wash the turd out of your mouth.
By danrudan (39), Southampton on Nov 19, 10 10:13 AM
I went and polled absentee voters. Of the people I went to see, 80% voted for Bishop, and the reasons are obvious. They were home-bound voters with serious medical issues. They depend on government assistance to live (Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security). They voted for Bishop because he will protect their lifelines better than Randy would, given his capitalist leanings.
By Steve Mc (3), Miller Place on Nov 19, 10 10:22 AM
Steve, I hate to burst your bubble but what could possibly make you think your sampling of absentee voters was statistically meaningful? You say that you went to see "home-bound voters," presumably meaning seniors. I would venture to guess that seniors make up a relatively small demographic component of the absentee electorate. Just out of curiosity, what percentage of the military absentee ballots do you think went for Bishop? I bet you any advantage Bishop might have with seniors would be more ...more
By TimS (13), Montauk on Nov 19, 10 11:44 AM
In terms of Republicans having requested more absentee ballots than Democrats ? I forget the count, but a significant number of ballots were requested by "independents" who were not affiliated with either party. I happen to be one of them myself, and the election may turn on how we independents cast our absentee ballots. Mine went for Bishop !
By Sag (53), Sag harbor on Nov 19, 10 10:26 AM
Its true that normally more absentee voters trend repubs than dems due to military but I believe the independent will play a big role here (as they always do). Hopefully they will have looked at Bishops pathetic record of voting to screw small business, voting for almost every spending program and turning his back on us by voting for the health care reform bill....Hopefully
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 19, 10 10:49 AM
Are you referring to registered independents or people not affiliated with a party, or both? If it's both, we're talking about only 22% of the absentee and affidavit ballots (see below). Not sure that's "significant" but let's look at the math. JDBeee already did it above but I'll break it down for you.

Start by assuming all registered Repubs and Dems vote for the party candidate. Something like 95% will and the ones who don't get cancelled out by the 5% of the opposing party who also cross ...more
By TimS (13), Montauk on Nov 19, 10 11:33 AM
Thanks for the breakdown. I hadn't seen that
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 19, 10 12:10 PM
fcmann calls me a fraud and then suggests someone has anger issues. you can say whatever you want. i actually do have information that you aren't privy too. and you would be ignorant to think that because the paper doesn't have it or you haven't heard it at the beauty parlor that it isn't valid. the point of my comment is that the paper has no credibility...and my objective was to say that I am not coming from any one preference.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 19, 10 10:47 AM
I hope you are right. we all know this paper has no credibility but I always thought Newsday was pretty reliable
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 19, 10 10:50 AM
Then tell us how you came about this info and prove you are no fraud.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 19, 10 12:09 PM
you know, i wish i hadn't addressed fcmann directly. i regret that. she and several others here seem to make a hobby out of getting their aggression out here. i have no intention of getting into it. it can, however, be helpful and enlightening to share information amongst each other. arguments are useless in this format and really don't achieve anything except increasing bloodpressure, dividing people and providing the paper with entertaining content.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 19, 10 11:01 AM
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Now you are a double fraud.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 19, 10 12:11 PM
That (Simon?) Templar is one crusty, sick and angry mofo. Wonder what's it's like die inside and completely withdraw from the real world...
By rss0246 (23), East Hampton on Nov 19, 10 12:14 PM
How does one "sparse" their words?
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 19, 10 1:01 PM
"BOE Starts Counting Shelter Island Absentee Ballots"...

I have no doubt that absentee ballots from Shelter Island will favor Bishop, but I wouldn't expect there to be a lot of them, considering there are only 2,200 residents on the island. My guess is maybe 50-100 absentee ballots, so even if Bishop wins those by 70-30%, we're talking about maybe a 30-vote gain.

Brookhaven is the big one as its 292 districts make up more than half the Congressional district.
By TimS (13), Montauk on Nov 19, 10 1:22 PM
I am pleasently surprised bishop couldn't make up ground in EH where dems have a 2-1 advantage and they had a dem parked at the post office pushing abstentee votes. I still have little confidence in the papers accuracy
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 19, 10 1:27 PM
I can't imagine anyone on Shelter Island voting against Tim. I also think there would be many more absentee ballots-more than vote in the regular election.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 19, 10 1:30 PM
Why, you know everyone who lives on Shelter Island? My fishing guide lives on Shelter Island and votes Republican.
By TimS (13), Montauk on Nov 19, 10 1:35 PM
"In a press release issued on Friday morning, Mr. Schneider pointed to the fact that Mr. Altschuler’s campaign has challenged the legitimacy of 535 absentee ballots cast in support of Mr. Bishop, calling it a strategy “designed to suppress Bishop’s momentum.” Mr. Bishop’s campaign, in turn, has challenged the legitimacy of 342 absentee ballots cast in support of Mr. Altschuler, his Republican challenger."

To the author of the article, Will James. You should ...more
By TimS (13), Montauk on Nov 19, 10 1:34 PM
Does anyone know if these include military personnel votes and how many of those votes were cast
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 19, 10 5:17 PM
It does include the military ballots that have already arrived but there may be some still coming from overseas. They have to be postmarked by November 1st and must arrive by Nov 23rd. That said, my understanding is that because there are no military bases in the district the # of military ballots is fairly small and not particularly significant.
By TimS (13), Montauk on Nov 19, 10 5:42 PM
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The way I see it IF challenged absentee votes hold true then bishop is probably up about 200 votes. Do you know the breakdown of outstanding brookhaven absentee votes
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 19, 10 6:33 PM
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Its not about military people stationed in 1st district, its people whose home are in the 1st district but may be serving elsewhere, whether domestically or overseas.
By smacw (222), New York on Nov 19, 10 8:09 PM
Here is proof that every vote is significant.
smacw is correct, the idea that there are no military bases here (and there are) does not correlate to anything. It refers to persons from the 1ST CD currently on active duty elsewhere.
By Terry (380), Southampton on Nov 20, 10 1:32 PM
Go TIM! Keep that lousy outsourcer out of our town. 30 votes and Altschuler has challenged nearly 700! To all sane East Enders, keep the faith!
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 19, 10 5:17 PM
Tim will win.
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Nov 19, 10 5:45 PM
To the editor-comments should be stopped on this story until a winner is declared. Both sides are out of control.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 19, 10 9:26 PM
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How about the comments be allowed and anyone bothered by them simply doesn't visit? The baggers on this site have attempted to hijack every single post with their ignorance, bigotry, and hatred and I for one will continue to give them a taste of their own medicine no matter how much the whine
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 19, 10 10:22 PM
At this point it looks like it could go either way. Brookhaven was a statistical dead heat on election night out of over 100,000 votes cast. If we are to believe the current vote tallies and asssume both sides will only succeed in tossing out 5% of the challenges, Bishop is probably ahead by around 200 votes. So if there are roughly 5,000 ballots remaining, all in Brookhaven, Altschuler has to win those by 4.5 points, meaning he needs 52.5% of them, or better, to win.

I suspect that starting ...more
By TimS (13), Montauk on Nov 19, 10 10:05 PM
No, it was not a statistical dead heat on election night, it was the actual count, assuming it was accurate. Statistical dead heats refer to polling.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 20, 10 1:11 AM
sorry I don't have the lingo down but my point was that it was basically a tie, give or take a few hundred votes which gave Bishop a 0.2% advantage.
By TimS (13), Montauk on Nov 20, 10 8:10 AM
Actually I believe it was closer to an 0.3 Bishop advantage in Brookhaven on election night, but who's counting. :)
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 20, 10 3:19 PM
Here's the breakdown of what's left in Brookhaven.

"According to Ryan, 2,004 of the remaining ballots — more than 40 percent of them — are from registered Republicans; 1,826 are from registered Democrats, 920 are from unaffiliated voters, 160 are from people registered to the Independence Party, 137 are from registered Conservatives, and the remaining 50 are from others."
By TimS (13), Montauk on Nov 19, 10 10:12 PM
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My calculations on needed votes was the same. Thanks for the info for the breakdown. If true it's a horserace. Once it hits the courts we will be lucky to know a winner by Jan 1st
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 7:29 AM
Not sure where he get 40% from. More like 20%
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 7:34 AM
He means 40% of the Brookhaven votes (around 5,000), not the total absentees.
By TimS (13), Montauk on Nov 20, 10 8:13 AM
The 40% number is meaningless. If you take the repubs + conservatives less dems and differential on challenges you have Randy ahead by a nose hair. It will come down to independants and the court. We won't know officially for quite some time but it truly looks like a toss up at this point.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 8:37 AM
NY-1 has about a +6 differential favoring republicans over democrats. The remaining difference in Brookhaven, taking the figures shown here by TimS, shows the republicans with a little more than + 3 over the dems, so it certainly doesn't bode well for Altschuler who may now trail by over 200 when factoring in the challenges.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 20, 10 6:21 PM
Why in god's name does the BofE have a rule that they won't reveal results of their counting until the final count? Why couldn't they give a total at the end of each workday? After this election, let's hope they change the rules. There is no reason that I can see for the public to be kept in the dark. It seems completely capricious.
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 19, 10 10:50 PM
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The public is not in the dark. These numbers being published are accurate. Before they get reported in the press, both sides agree to them and then they double check them with the BOE #s and then the press updates the public. The fact that the BOE won't announce the results until after all lthe votes have been counted may mislead some into believing the official results may differ but they won't. That's because the representatives from both sides are counting with the BOE and making sure they're ...more
By TimS (13), Montauk on Nov 20, 10 8:18 AM
Thanks. Ghostofxmaspast stated that nobody could KNOW the current count because that information wasn't released. It makes sense that the Democratic and Republican referees who oversee the BoE workers actually counting the ballots WOULD know but I would rather that the totals come directly from a BoE representative to avoid "spin".

Additionally, the practice of keeping secret information that the public has a right to know, without any rationale, is presumptuous.
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 20, 10 10:36 AM
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Rep. Tim Bishop’s campaign spokesman just released a statement slamming Republican Randy Altschuler’s camp for challenging the residency status of the Democratic congressman’s parents, who voted for their son in NY-1 with absentee ballots sent from Florida.

According to the spokesman, Jon Schneider, Bishop’s 86-year-old father, Howard, is an 11th generation Southampton Village native. He’s also housebound and thus was unable to travel home, so he and his wife, ...more
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 20, 10 1:02 AM
That has already been reported and there may be validity to the challange. You need to check voting eligibility guidelines but I am pretty sure they need to have district 1 ny as their primary residence and have been here within the past 30 days. I could be wrong though
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 7:27 AM
You could be wrong? LOL-you think
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 20, 10 3:25 PM
Do you have info that shows that I'm wrong? I would love to see it.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 4:22 PM
You are eligible to vote absentee in New York if you will be:

* unavoidably absent from your county on election day
* unable to appear at the polls due to illness or disability
* a patient in a Veterans’ Administration Hospital
* detained in jail awaiting Grand Jury action or confined in prison after conviction for an offense other than a felony
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 20, 10 6:07 PM
Per the NY state board of elections you are NOT eligible to vote if you have not lived at your present address at least 30 days prior to the election. Seeing he is bedridden I would think it is worth the challenge unless of course you want to disregard the law
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 10:36 PM
In this situation you can challenge anything you wish, whether it's worth it or not is irrelevant, you don't pay by the challenge, and just about all the challenges on both sides are going to fail. This one for sure, and if you want to look at worth, this one wasn't worth the bad press.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 20, 10 11:43 PM
I never said that. I merely stated that the challenge may have been valid legally
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 21, 10 7:51 AM
Pollbuster I admitted I wasn't sure but after you called me to the table on it it appears you were wrong. It is a valid legal challange and according to the law if Mr bishops father has not resided in ny for the past 30 days the vote should be thrown out...legally
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 21, 10 12:16 PM
Are you actually capable of understanding that what you are saying has no basis in law? Unless, of course, if you are referring to that section of the law written by razza5350.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 21, 10 1:17 PM
15 votes holy crap if I did not drag wife siter and brother in law to vote it would only be 12 votes lol
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 20, 10 1:26 AM
It looks like job shipping Randy, the Republican carpetbagger, puppet is going to have to return to India and find himself a job.
By Steven (113), Westhampton on Nov 20, 10 6:29 AM
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The Altschuler Camp has just announced that The Bishop camp has stolen its tent and that their s'mores are coming out better. Not to be outdone, the Bishop camp has decided to tell stories by the bonfire. C'mon. Why doesn't the press give it up I'll be back when there is a winner declared...sometime next May.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 20, 10 6:47 AM
things are changing quickly. wait, this is coming over the newswire right this minute. The Bishop Camp has just announced its rabbit season. In response, The Altschuler Camp has just announced that Bishop's Camp is wrong. Altschuler's Camp is saying that its actually duck season. Officials in Yaphank are consulting with DC attorneys to see if its really duck season or rabbit season.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 20, 10 6:51 AM
Outsourcing has one disadvantage but it also has many advantages. The disadvantage, of course, is that jobs which might be created in this country are created instead in even greater numbers in a foreign country, usually China or other parts of Asia.
The advantages of outsourcing include:
(1)Many businesses that would not be able to survive in this country are able to survive with low cost foreign labor or operate much more profitably. These businesses would contribute tax revenues ...more
By Economics Professor (1), Honolulu on Nov 20, 10 7:02 AM
With the exception of No.3, you are correct. That proposition is, at least, not proven.

The rap against outsourcers is that they are creating wealth on the backs of the poorest of their fellow countrymen. Is this ethical, however efficient it may be? Everyone who has a job in this country is so employed because he is protected by the federal government. Were it not so, East Indians and Chinese would staff Wall Street, run the Judicial System, - - and everything else, and all of your ...more
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 20, 10 10:53 AM
Where did you get that bunch of nonsense, from an Outsourcer? Altschuler made a living not by creating jobs but by taking American jobs and convincing companies to send them overseas. This entire outsourcing is good, profit at any cost bs is destroying this country.
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 2:26 PM
I just got a disturbing call from a friend in the know that says at this point Its a vitual tie and this point bishop is leading by 20. Wow this is close.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 20, 10 7:14 AM
Your friend, who is "in the know", did he reveal to you that he read that info online last night or in todays Newsday?
By Terry (380), Southampton on Nov 20, 10 8:13 AM
Bishop winning by 20 after east end votes is not a good sign for him. Brookhaven Town is still not counted. I don't think the mastic-shirley crowd is very liberal.
By Academics (14), Southampton on Nov 20, 10 10:01 PM
If Brookhaven is so great for Altschuler, then why did Bishop win it 50.1 to 49.8 before the absentee count? And why has Bishop done better than Altschuler thru the first 44 ED's counted in Brookhaven; including ED's considered to be republican friendly?
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 20, 10 10:15 PM
... flip a coin.
By William Rodney (465), southampton on Nov 20, 10 8:33 AM
Blah, blah, blah....
This isn't a prize fight so I'm not sure why the crowd here is reacting and cheering on a round by round basis. Get the count down. Get us a winner. Get to work. Fix the mess.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Nov 20, 10 10:18 AM
why do we only hear from the Bishop people on the ongoing count reporting?? do I sense a lefty liberal bias on the part of the Press in the reporting of this story??? surprise - surprise -
By egv44 (5), Southampton on Nov 20, 10 10:41 AM
Oh please, Bob Ryan, Altschuler's spokesman has been spinning faster than the rotation of the earth. Just today, Newsday reported that he denied a 15 vote Bishop lead. He said it was 14--LOL.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 20, 10 10:05 PM
Come on, Brendan, it's past time to take down Templar's post above (11/19 at 8:40 AM). Calling a sitting Congressman or anyone, for that matter, a "scumbag" is way out of line. I also objected to the "Scumocrats" reference in Templar's later post (11/19 at 10:45 AM). If you let the site deteriorate like this, the serious commenters on both sides will drop out, and you'll be left with the schoolyard at recess, or worse.
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Nov 20, 10 11:01 AM
Boo hoo.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 11:14 AM
Turkey Bridge and I don't agree on much, but for the sake of civility, and to keep this from becoming a zoo like other public forums, I second his opinions strongly.
By Terry (380), Southampton on Nov 20, 10 11:18 AM
This site became a haven for right wing hate and bs a long time ago.
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 11:59 AM
Yeah people like you are full of left wing love
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 12:02 PM
Razza I started posting here in response to your completely over the top rightwing bs. You and your cohorts could not help but add your teabagger hatred to every single posting, no matter the topic, so I fought back. Why should only the righties be allowed to act like total d-wads? Any time someone disagrees with our they are "liberal" or "socialists" and worse. Your "boo hoo" comment above is a perfect example. 777 postings and not one original thought.







By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 12:35 PM
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Read my post, captn bagger, I did not claim to be better than you wingnuts, what I said is two can play your game. You guys aren't used to us "lefties" fighting back and you pitch a fit whenever we do. Get used to it
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 2:22 PM
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That actually made me laugh... at you.
Have you read the posts of some of your liberal friends here?
Wave your flag real high Razza5351. Not that you offer anything constructive yourself, that would take away from your name calling and foot stomping. Tell me... will your life be so dramatically better or worse regardless of who wins?
By double standard (1506), quogue on Nov 20, 10 4:05 PM
Did captn what's his name really just refer to his group of far right crazies as "the silent majority"? Best laugh of the week
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 20, 10 4:11 PM
No, what difference could it possibly make whether or not we elect a man who outsourced tens of thousand of American jobs to fatten his own pockets and those of his friends or a man who has dedicated much of his life to public service? Now I am laughing . . . at you. By the way, I went back and read some of your comments and you seem to have an unhealthy obsession with fcmcmann as well as a robot-like devotion to teaparty talking points. And, if it doesn't matter, then why chime in?
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 4:48 PM
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Tim or Randy? I see no reason to be excited about either. However, I did watch as Timmy walked the party line with Obamacare and that pretty much sealed the deal for me. I chime in because I can and need not offer an explanation to you or anyone else. I'm obsessed with fcm? Really? Maybe I pointed out the difference between fact and ideology a few times. You and FCM can enjoy that delightful chamber music being played by the Obama quartet, and don't worry at all about the iceberg on your starboard ...more
By double standard (1506), quogue on Nov 20, 10 5:06 PM
With all due respect Phil, this is not something limited to the right. Keith Olberman has earned an honorary masters degree in bloviating (and there are others on the left, like Maddow). At one time you could say that right wing talk crazies dominated, but the left has done a fine job catching up, leaving those of us in the middle wondering how this all went so wrong.
By Academics (14), Southampton on Nov 20, 10 9:59 PM
I tend to agree academics. The two party system and politics in general has turned very divisive. There seems to be little if no common ground anymore
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 10:30 PM
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By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 10:59 PM
yeah, best laugh of the week. you have problems missy.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 20, 10 11:08 PM
Exactly, the insane teabaggery and total hypocrisy of folks like captn bagger, joe hampton and little Razza is why I started posting. No need to watch FOX when a quick visit here is nothing more than a regurgitation of their bs. I cannot speak for fcmcmann, but the reason I do not type the word "America" when referring to you is because you stand in direct contradiction to the ideals upon which this progressive country was founded.
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 21, 10 11:33 AM
Now that, Phil, is funny!
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 21, 10 11:34 AM
Done! Good man, Brendan!
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Nov 20, 10 12:13 PM
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Challenging more ballots than your opponent
a time honored tradition to drag the process out, but it only prolongs the inevitable, and makes you look foolish when in the end you lose by a lot more than everyone expects.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 20, 10 9:58 PM
Let's wait until all the absentees are in before making that judgement. Bishop could wind up with more.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 10:54 PM
challenges
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 11:20 PM
LOL
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 21, 10 1:05 PM
Pollbuster...another liberal know it all whos never wrong about anything. you make me LOL.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 9:15 AM
Looks like I wasn't wrong--Altschuler 471 more challenges. Razza5350, another conservative know nothing.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 24, 10 5:49 PM
It ain't over, 'til it's over.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 20, 10 10:11 PM
And in politics, it's never over, even when it's over.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 20, 10 10:23 PM
mr z. Just watched a movie that I know you would love called inside job. Real great anti capitalism stuff with fantastic journalist integrity. They featured soros, Barney frank and spitzer. They almost even used the word plutocracy. Of cousrse they didn't offer any solutions to anything but the rant was a+ quality
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 20, 10 10:27 PM
Seen it.

How was the trip to Lincoln Plaza?

Oh, that's right, I made the trip to see it well before it made it out here. Thoroughly enjoyable viewing experience...
Nov 22, 10 11:49 PM appended by Mr. Z
http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-trailers/?vid=0e7cf6e8-e886-40c5-8a03-5e910c831258&from=en-us-ent_movies&more=msnmovies-Entertainment_Movies-Movie Previews
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 22, 10 11:49 PM
It's hard to have a "solution", when the sherriff is the thief, and the foxes are running the henhouse.

Must be alot of spare room in your upstairs, if you came away from that experience empty handed. Then again, being prejudiced going in, and brainwashed into thinking "capitalism" is what occurred in the last fifteen years, could explain ALOT. Capitalism, no. Outright, despotic, 21st century thievery? YES.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 23, 10 12:00 AM
just played a game of chess. ironically enough, it was exactly like this race. in the end, the Rook(ie) took the Bishop - who moved more like a pawn.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 21, 10 11:01 AM
And then the rookie outsourced the pawn's job to India and refused equal pay for the queen and health benefits for the knight before inviting the bishop to teach creationism at the local public school.
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 21, 10 11:36 AM
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Anyone interested in reasoned, sane, factual information on the truth behind tax cuts read the article here http://www.truth-out.org/the-great-tax-cut-debate-myths-and-facts65294

an excerpt:

"Republicans portray the Bush tax cuts as similar to President John F. Kennedy's. That is a poor analogy. Kennedy cut the top tax rate from an exorbitant 91 percent to 70 percent. In contrast, Bush cut the top tax rate from a historically low 39.6 percent to 35 percent. By increasing enforcement ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 21, 10 12:21 PM
Looks like there will be more jobs out sourced when our president gets home from all his trips abroad. I wonder how many companies will
"HE" send to India?
By longislander40 (34), hampton bays on Nov 21, 10 12:49 PM
What a lazy posting.

He went there to create jobs here. If you would pay attention to what actually happens, you would be able to do more than spew talking points. I have never seen a group of people so eager to bash a president over every single thing he does. And don't say Bush because it just ain't true.

from CBS NEWS:

"President Obama stayed for three days in India in order to discuss economic relations between the two countries as well as offering support to ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 21, 10 1:42 PM
"Oh, we can't have tax cuts!", says the brainwashed minion. "They simply don't have enough of our money and we need to send them more!". C'mon, give me a break. The truth behind tax cuts is that when you send less of your hard earned loot to the man, your family gets to keep more of it. And no, that's not up for discussion, you don't get that and we aren't on the same planet.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 21, 10 1:08 PM
Yeah, if they apply to the middle class, not the rich. The left is for TAX CUTS TO THE MIDDLE CLASS - those making 250,000 and under so try to pay attention.

You want to talk about something that is not up for discussion: In 2009 Americans paid the lowest tax rate since the 1950's! That is a freaking FACT so try to wrap your head around it.

"Amid complaints about high taxes and calls for a smaller government, Americans paid their lowest level of taxes last year since Harry ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 21, 10 1:50 PM
Lower taxes, the defecit skyrockets.

Even remedial mathematicians can wrap their mind around that.
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 22, 10 11:52 PM
In 2012 Americans will be looking for leadership, but they will also be looking for authenticity. Sarah Palin is authentic, speaks her mind and Americans so distrustful of the fraud of the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Charlie Rangel and yes, Barack Obama are clamoring for authenticity.They listen because we haven’t had this type of conservative leadership since Reagan and as every day passes she only gets stronger at the job.

By They call me (2172), southampton on Nov 21, 10 1:51 PM
Barbara Bush has shared her thoughts on Sarah Palin, and it sounds as if she hopes the former Alaska governor decides against running for president.

"I sat next to her once, thought she was beautiful, and I think she's very happy in Alaska," Bush said, before adding, "and I hope she'll stay there."

The former first lady made the comments in an interview with Larry King, which will air Monday night on "Larry King Live."
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 21, 10 3:03 PM
She blew the 2008 presidential race. She blew republican control of the house in 2010. If she runs in 2012 she will blow the presidency. Leave her and her family for The Jerry Springer show. They call me an idiot is your full moniker.
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 21, 10 5:03 PM
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republican control of the senate in 2010 is what I meant
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 21, 10 5:08 PM
Yes, she definitely seems to blow a lot of things.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 1:31 AM
The 2012 election season is still a ways off, but Sarah Palin could well be elected and I believe easily so. The press must think so otherwise they wouldn’t spend all the resources and energy trying to tell American she’s not the one for them. Think about it, if they really thought she wasn’t a strong candidate they wouldn’t spend ten minutes on her. With every story they only give her all the more platform to speak to America and as she does she IS winning them over, in ...more
By They call me (2172), southampton on Nov 21, 10 1:51 PM
Yeah, good luck with that.
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 21, 10 2:19 PM
Just like O'Donnell and Angle, her running will ensure victory for her competitor. She is the most divisive and the mist hated "politician" in America today and I hope to god she runs because the fringe righties will give her the nomination and her loss in the general will be a historic fail. The left does not fear her, but sane republicans cannot imagine a worst nightmare. All I can say is "Run, Sarah, please run!" I do, however, expect that she won't, but if she doesn't tease all those sexually ...more
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 21, 10 7:57 PM
YES WE CAN ! They call me. By the way did anyone hear 51 saying something ? Like Capt said last week all I hear is bla bla bla. Its like listening to Lynn Samuels or Randi Rhodes . Painful !
By 27dan (2148), Southampton on Nov 21, 10 2:12 PM
Is that ronnie the spender come back from the grave to remind republican/baggers that he just failed your purity test:

1. Deficit spending soared during Reagan’s presidency. Strike one.

2. As governor of California, Reagan oversaw the development of Medi-Cal, the nation’s largest Medicaid program — expanding it to cover long-term care and developing massive new managed care systems. Strike two.

3. As governor of California, Reagan established the Air ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 21, 10 2:18 PM
You know why it sounds like blah,blah,blah to you because he is imitating you. He isn't spoofing you, that is what it really sounds like, as pathetic as that is
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 21, 10 5:18 PM
WASHINGTON -- Billionaire Warren Buffett rebutted claims that the Obama administration is unjustly hurting business orders with high taxes by saying that in fact, the wealthy have never had it so good.

"I think that people at the high end, people like myself, should be paying a lot more in taxes. We have it better than we've ever had it," he told ABC's Christiane Amanpour in a clip played on "This Week" on Sunday.

When Amanpour pointed to critics' claims that the very wealthy need ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 21, 10 2:13 PM
Is the authentic Sarah Palin the one who was investigated by a bi-partisan Alaskan legislative committee led by "former Republican prosecutor Steve Branchflower, [that] resulted in the finding 'that Governor Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act.'*"(?)

"The report issued by Branchflower documented more than thirty occasions in which then Governor Palin, her husband Todd or members of her staff tried to influence Alaska's ...more
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 21, 10 2:30 PM
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those making over 250k make pay 98% of the tax. no president has ever raised taxes as much as the shady indonesian attorney from chicago.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 21, 10 4:15 PM
They have 99% of the wealth. Another racist post from the right. I think you and Ms. Marple would make a perfect pair.
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 21, 10 5:13 PM
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I thought he was supposed to be a Kenyan. Can't you teabaggers even get your bs straight?
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 21, 10 8:16 PM
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How is that statement racist? And I don't know Ms. Marple. And they do not have 99% of the wealth. Its INCOME tax. not wealth tax. the highest majority of millionaires make an average of 100,000 per year. But I'm more interested in how that statement was racist. Thank you.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 21, 10 6:59 PM
You are a hateful, pathetic racist and the proof of your racism is in your postings.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 21, 10 7:43 PM
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Mr Z what sort of advice he would give to Atlas upon seeing that "the greater the effort the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 12:04 AM
The top 1% hold just under 40% of the "wealth" of this country. Talk about "redistribution" in favor of only a scant few, eh? Where do you find these "facts" of yours, Xmaspast?

And, well joe, I know why it has gained some popularity. And, my advice would be, become not only more self sufficent, but more independent. Learn something, and do for yourself proper, before you pay someone else to do something you very well could on your own. Often, the more you lean on the world, the heavier ...more
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 22, 10 11:23 PM
ooooooh, why i've never! how dare you. but i will say if that's a recent picture in your avatar, you were having a good hair day! that pink brings out the red in your eyes.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 21, 10 9:21 PM
i think it's actually indonesia. 11/9/10 “Let me begin with a simple statement,” Obama said Wednesday in a speech to the Muslim world at the University of Indonesia. He then spoke in Indonesian: “Indonesia is a part of me,” a statement that drew cheers and applause.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 21, 10 9:23 PM
You didn't have to go on, I already didn't believe you after your first 2 words.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 1:23 AM
Dont stop thinking about tomorrow!
By They call me (2172), southampton on Nov 21, 10 11:47 PM
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By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 1:27 AM
Please keep posting and pushing for Sarah Palin to become the republican candidate for president.
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 22, 10 8:44 AM
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By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 9:05 AM
Just a correction, Palin's motto is "Don't START thinking"

They call me . . . gullible
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 12:06 PM
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11/22/10 Randy's last day-its over.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 22, 10 5:42 AM
When it comes to taxes, most people feel that an income tax should be balanced when it comes to percentage rates. This is where the problem comes in since the very wealthy have the resources needed to hide their actual income and pay a much lower amount in taxes than they should.

Most of the middle class will pay upwards of 30 percent of their income to taxes, yet the wealthy HIDE their income in off shore accounts so don't claim income made from those accounts and as a result do not ...more
By DaveB (13), Flanders on Nov 22, 10 7:24 AM
Dave, not sure how long it took you to come up with all of that..and it might have sounded pleasant to you, but not one iota of it is based in reality. It otherwords, your full of s.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 22, 10 7:29 AM
Ghostofsamitypast, you have zero class
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 22, 10 8:35 AM
What, you don't agree that EVERYONE should pay the same percentage taxes on their income, wherever that income may come from? Those who hide their income by using off shore accounts should be audited.
By DaveB (13), Flanders on Nov 22, 10 5:56 PM
XMaspast apparently does not have a grip on how those who can hide their wealth, DO.

Anywhere they can, from the Cayman's, to Zurich...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 22, 10 11:25 PM
in further proof that the bishop camp is desperate. his parents votes were challenged as part of a mandatory examination of all absentee ballots because of the situation at hand. then, bishop's ''camp'' press released some uppity b.s. about an 11th generation something or other. the altschuler camp had no idea about any of it, it was news to them. then, the sh press makes it look like randy himself picked out bishop's parents and runs with that story! meanwhile all you useful idiots run into ...more
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 22, 10 7:36 AM
The difference between us idiots and you is that we're "useful"
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 22, 10 8:38 AM
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oh, you're useful alright!
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 22, 10 10:07 AM
Throwing aside the typical pointless bantor does anyone have any new info on the Bishop altschuler latest developments
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 11:11 AM
Barack Obama rode into the Oval office on the strength of flowery speeches, a really good teleprompter and...well...little else. No experience, no backbone and no cajones. Just the vague promises of "Hope" and "Change". America was duped by the ultimate "snake oil" sales pitch
In 714 Days we take back America
By They call me (2172), southampton on Nov 22, 10 11:28 AM
Cant argue with you on Obama but as long as the Repubs and Dems are in charge we will never take back america. In my opinion the two party system in America is divisve and flawed. Both parties are "snake oil" salesmen who are corrupted by big corporations and lobbyists.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 12:14 PM
Go for it, but, remember it's mine for 714 more days and nghts, so be careful what you say, or I can ask you to leave.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 4:20 PM
It's spelled "cojones".

Cajones means "dresser drawer"...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 22, 10 11:29 PM
As of 10:30 Randy is up by a huge margin of 9 votes (not counting challenges of course)
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 12:51 PM
as of 1pm, randy is up by 14 votes. two of the ladies are currently eating ham and swiss on rye with mustard. the male appears to be eating a ramen soup. no back to steve for the weather.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 22, 10 1:08 PM
As per Reid Epstein of Newwsday: Tim Bishop re-retakes the lead over Randy Altschuler by 16 (or 17) votes in #ny01. Next break/update sked for 3pm. http://bit.ly/a2VWPc
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 2:06 PM
While Bishop leads by 17, lets remember there is still the roughly +212 differential favoring Bishop with the challenged votes.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 2:11 PM
As per Richard Tracy of Politics NY Blog, Bishop is up by 19 votes. Local 84 SEIU representatives have just brought cookies.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 22, 10 2:38 PM
bishop has begun to challenge absentee ballots of those that have been outsourced and sought work in other places. Talk about rubbing salt into the wound.
By ghostofxmaspast (32), North Haven on Nov 22, 10 2:39 PM
2:50 eastern time. Doctors have begun a complicated teabagectomy operation on ghostofxmaspast. The lead surgeon cannot guarantee a successful outcome, but he has assured friends and relatives that the patient will still be a complete tool regardless.
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 2:54 PM
ROFLMAO
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 3:00 PM
2:58 PM 5351'S momma washed his mouth out with soap and put him to bed without milk and cookies. He cried
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 3:04 PM
51 you are a bitter ideology at best. And if Bishop loses you will be the biggest sore loser in here. Give the personal hate a rest.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 3:42 PM
Dear joe, coming from the most bigoted and spiteful teabagger on this site, I'll take that as a compliment. By the way, if Bishop loses, at least I had the pleasure of watching you squirm.

“The tyranny of a prince in an oligarchy is not so dangerous to the public welfare as the apathy of a citizen in a democracy” Charles de Montesquieu

By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 4:04 PM
Dahh h look my mommy lets me play with crayons tooo
By They call me (2172), southampton on Nov 22, 10 4:14 PM
very interesting quote 5351 and believe it or not I actually agree. I am pretty sure our interpretation of the quote is different.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 4:30 PM
"they call me" I like the buck teeth. I always though he had a mouth that looked like a large mouth bass but I like the rabbitt look
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 4:48 PM
So, what's the count as of late this afternoon?
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Nov 22, 10 3:41 PM
Tim Bishop now leading #ny01 by 69 votes, Altschuler spox says. 3,683 absentee ballots left to count. http://bit.ly/g2q2p4
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 3:48 PM
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By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 3:49 PM
Altschuler has challenged 856 ballots to Bishop's 602. Probable that many of those get counted. http://bit.ly/g2q2p4 #ny01
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 3:50 PM
Not looking good for Randy. looks like it will most likely be 2 more years of Dimmy. Too bad I was really looking forward to seeing Alec Baldwin make a fool of himself
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 4:08 PM
Don't worry, you're filling in quite adequately for Mr. Baldwin.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 4:30 PM
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good one Pollster. you are funny
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 4:45 PM
Thanks, you're a good sport razza5350
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 4:51 PM
They call me bagger, your zombie Tim does not hold a candle to my zombie Ron.
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 4:16 PM
Palin 2010
By They call me (2172), southampton on Nov 22, 10 4:54 PM
I hear Palin is entered again in this years Iquitarod. Could you confirm this for me?
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 5:18 PM
Hah! Love it!
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 7:40 PM
You no it razza you da man . Ha Ha dat is the deal. Ha Ha Tim bisop is going to win dont worry about nothing. It is garenteed.
By local 84 (302), riverhead on Nov 22, 10 4:25 PM
Tim Bishop's lead up to 137 over Randy Altschuler, 2,907 absentee ballots left to count and 1,588 contested.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 5:48 PM
Now we all know why the world is at war, and our Congress too.

Scroll to the top of this article, and all the other articles related to the election, then read out loud to your children every word of every post (especially your own posts).

Sad IMO, and especially sad that the most prolific posters seem to have no self-awareness of their own myopia and anger.

Does the phrase "Peace on Earth" resonate here?

PS -- In Earth Year 002,060 A. D. (50 years from now), ...more
By PBR (4819), Southampton on Nov 22, 10 7:01 PM
Thanks, and you have a great Thanksgiving too, but forgive me if I differ on the heated debate that has taken place here. Sure there has been some over the top stuff, but better that then no debate at all. This is what democracy looks like.

And one more thing, war is going on in world, but the world, Thank God, is not at war.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 7:16 PM
You ask a good question, in 50 years, will it make any difference. The question is what will happen going forward, and will it be a good or a bad thing. From that, someone who tries to change things for the better will ALWAYS have some impact that will have long lasting effects.

I agree that there is a LOT of anger, but that is very typical when an economy is in trouble on both sides. Until the economy clearly starts to move in a positive direction HERE, people will be stressed out ...more
By DaveB (13), Flanders on Nov 23, 10 7:01 AM
27east.com is now reporting that Bishop's lead has grown to 164 votes, with slightly less than 2700 votes left to count.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 7:22 PM
Palin * Christie 2012
By They call me (2172), southampton on Nov 22, 10 7:39 PM
Why does this pathological hatred for Palin exist? for women like Fcm It comes down to one and only one issue.
For liberals…especially liberal women…and extra especially Jewish liberal women…only one single issue defines politicians and separates good from evil.Everything comes down to abortion.That’s it. Nothing else matters.
Some women will protest that they care about lots of issues.
No, they don’t. Everything, everything, everything, comes down to abortion
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 8:02 PM
Joe they call you a racist because you disagree with his policies. Is it ok to say they are a bunch of sexist woman haters...that's what I thought
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 8:19 PM
I don't follow what your saying Razza....I am sorry maybe I am just tired tonight. I assure everyone I am not a racist or a women hater And I have yet to see anyone show me what I have said in the past that proves I am one. I just hate the thought of murdering little babies, its the most disgusting of all things humans do,and I struggle to understand how anyone can advocate such self centered horror.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 8:36 PM
"especially Jewish liberal women" and you seriously want anyone to believe you are not a hateful, bigoted pig.

I hate Sarah Palin because she will say or do anything to promote herself. Because she preaches abstinence while her teenage daughter is having sex. Because she embraces stupidity and attacks intelligence. Because she is a lying, conniving quitter and because her fans are despicable, hateful, bigoted, racists like you, Joe Hampton
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 22, 10 8:57 PM
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Oh...... and you forgot she is pro abortion
Nov 22, 10 9:09 PM appended by joe hampton
Should have been NOT pro Abortion sorry very tired tonight
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 9:09 PM
What is so hateful do I not speak the truth. You just want to shame us all into silence through political correctness, While you and your ilk go on terminating the helpless. WELL I AM NOT PLAYING YOUR GAME LADY! Murder is wrong on any level but to take the life of a child for convenience is truly they height of a self centered existence.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 9:23 PM
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By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 10:15 PM
ya keep telling yourself that
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 10:33 PM
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By the mink (11), Westhampton Beach on Nov 23, 10 6:19 PM
If I could pick a ticket I personaly would perfer Christie / Rubio Or Rice / Christie
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 8:05 PM
How about Romney / Rice that has a ring to It
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 8:06 PM
Tim will win.
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Nov 22, 10 8:27 PM
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By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 8:37 PM
Altschuler continues to challenge more ballots 1,051-714, as gap grows to 337.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 8:44 PM
You know what ball buster It really does not matter all that much who wins in this insignificant district. Its a nation problem and nationally the referendum on obama has been played out already. So If little timmy wins or not we have bigger fish to fry.Nothing will ever change in the Hampton's or San Francisco or Chicago or any other corrupted progressive or union city anyway.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 8:49 PM
You are a sad, pathetic loser who says it doesn't matter when you are losing but screams like a child when you think you are winning. You are not fooling anyone.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 22, 10 9:01 PM
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So sorry, if your balls are busted. I just hope you have good health care.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 9:01 PM
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I would love to see bishop go down just to reset the big government and union control a few notches. But lets not forget I was a Cox supporter I hate outsourcing as well, for different reasons that you but I still do.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 9:13 PM
I just saw this: Altschuler spox says remaining EDs for #ny01 absentees are B'haven 202, 207 & 209-294. All over map, but includes a sr center where RA should do well.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 9:25 PM
Randy is done for. Those districts contain a welfare center, center for unemployed, big legal firm, union office, Acorn office and center for the mentally challenged. A recent study shows no one in that district actually works. Looks like a lock for Bishop
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 11:20 PM
Okay, I have to admit it, that was pretty funny.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 12:09 AM
Hope Tim wins ,, We want a local guy.......
By DJ9222 (81), southampton on Nov 22, 10 8:49 PM
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Yeah Tim voted for health care reform and is ranked virtually 0 in his voting record for small business and military defense. He has alos signed virtually every spending bill that has passed his desk but heh hes local
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 11:23 PM
Some math taken from the swing state project: Bishop up by 206 and holding the advantage of challenging 337 fewer ballots--assuming that Bishop benefits by 50% of the difference of the challenged ballots--Altschuler would have to get 59.78% of the remaining absentee ballots to tie. Bishop probably benefits by more than 50% on the difference in challenged ballots, so Altschuler's chances are shrinking dramatically.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 22, 10 9:30 PM
Perhaps you should be eting do do birds. Would you rather have Tim win OR would you rather control the house? This last election was a serious referndum on your parties policies.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 11:27 PM
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By local 84 (302), riverhead on Nov 22, 10 9:42 PM
What??? Is this guy for real. Hey buddy go yank somone elses chain. Fcm Is the biggest pin head in here but I dont even have words for you
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 9:46 PM
This guy needs some SERIOUS amounts of mental health.

"It's 'cause she was askin' for it", right? There is a fine line between fear, and respect. One is the quality of a leader, the other is the quality of a despot.

I'll leave you to figure out which is which...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 22, 10 11:39 PM
The tea bagger candidate from Colorado was asked on Meet the Press if he was against abortion even in the case of rape and incest and he said he was still against it. Is this your party platform as well Joe Hampton?
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 22, 10 10:24 PM
see about 15 posts above mets I am done with being iteragated tonight
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 22, 10 10:34 PM
Maybe he meant, "interrogated"?

This is too easy...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 22, 10 11:42 PM
come on guys I told you I was tired are we going to play spelling police tonight
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 12:05 AM
You brought it up. That's your answer, the woman should go ahead with carrying the baby for nine months, have the baby and put it up for adoption .As far if Bishop wins or loses you were gloating like a five year old school child. Now that your guy might lose it doesn't matter. You little sore loser child. And please keep posting for Palin in 2012. She blew the presidency for the republican party in 2008. She blew the senate in 2010. She will blow the 2012 race as well. You keep swallowing, while ...more
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 22, 10 10:53 PM
Mets fan, you clearly don't understand what that would do to the woman! So, the most horrible thing that could be done to a woman happens, and now you suggest she be reminded of the fact for nine additional months?!?
By DaveB (13), Flanders on Nov 22, 10 11:10 PM
the left is in favor of murdering the unborn innocent but is against the death penalty for a convicted murderer. HMM
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 22, 10 11:29 PM
I have not been posting for palin I said I would rather see other tickets.Did you not read that
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 12:07 AM
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By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 12:12 AM
If you really want to get into a debate on that issue, I would be happy to, but it would be off topic here. I am all for the death penalty, or to set up a penal colony in Antarctica for those who have a life sentence without giving these people a college education and TV rights and such. It might be reserved for people who have been caught in the act(so no chance of the wrong person being falsely imprisoned), but honestly, I don't understand why dangerous criminals are treated as well as they ...more
By DaveB (13), Flanders on Nov 23, 10 6:47 AM
You didn't understand my post, that was a teabaggers postion certainly not mine.
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 23, 10 8:44 AM
do any of you freaks ever actually talk to real live people?
By hegs (3), Southold on Nov 22, 10 11:02 PM
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Most people do not have time to talk about anything other than sports and Face book . So not so much no.Freakks
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 12:14 AM
Sorry fat finger. Freaks in what way?
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 12:15 AM
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I think you mean face to face. I assume everyone here is alive, maybe with the exception of a few.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 12:21 AM
Long winded, but a solid read:

THE GINGHAM DRESS

A lady in a faded gingham dress and her husband, dressed in a homespun
threadbare suit, stepped off the train in Boston , and walked timidly
without an appointment into the Harvard University President's outer
office.

The secretary could tell in a moment that such backwoods, country hicks
had no business at Harvard and probably didn't even deserve to be in
Cambridge.

'We'd like to see the president,' ...more
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 23, 10 12:41 AM
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Altschuler playing dirty politics. This says all you need to know about this man

BLOGSMONDAY MONDAY
Altschuler’s Unsubstantiated Accusations
Randy Altschuler’s latest press release may be the most provocative statement to come out of either camp since the election began. In it, Altschuler accuses Bishop of disenfranchisement and ‘stealing’ the election through one of his advisers.
http://thinksb.com/2010/11/altschulers-unsubstantiated-accusations/
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 8:28 AM
thinksb.com- stony brooks progressive magazine. Real great piece of journalism from an accredited source.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 8:47 AM
serously where do you guys find this crap. Do they post it on Moveon.org. and feed it to you with the intent of putting you in a frenzy
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 8:50 AM
Joe says for women, "especially liberal Jewish women" it is all about abortion, yet he was the one who broached the topic and can't stop talking about his christian conservative values.

Two things for you, joe - firstly, fc is right, you are a total bigot, second, abortion is legal in this country. If you ever get raped by your uncle and decide to have the baby, that's your choice - oh, that's right, you're a man so you really have no clue what you're talking about.

And then ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 8:40 AM
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Thats the best news I have heard all week. See you later. You wont be missed
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 8:52 AM
Well then Good Bye
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 8:44 AM
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Don't you have more important things to do anyway like to collecting sticks and mushrooms in Sag Harbor . Or making sure no ones fence is over 2 1/2 feet high so you can see up their driveway. Good riddance ! see you at Trader Joes.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 8:52 AM
I am with you, 5351. Joe hampton, razza and their fellow baggers are representative of all that is wrong with America today. They lack even the slightest modicum of decency, understanding or acceptance. They are hateful, whining bigots who will never change in this life and probably not the next. Let them come here and stomp their feet and hold their breath until someone listens, someone just like them.

Phil, these abhorrent wretches are incapable of rational thought therefore there ...more
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 23, 10 10:31 AM
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LOL good stuff
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 10:45 AM
The odds are that Bishop will win. Almost all of the ballot objections will be ruled to be frivolous so the leader at the end of the absentee count will be the winner. (So far, as far as I can tell since the BoE says NOTHING, the partial machine vote certification has shown no machine error.)

But it certainly doesn't FEEL like a win. How can one ever forget that one's neighbors almost voted into office a man who made centimillions by preying on the most vulnerable of one's fellow countrymen.

I ...more
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 23, 10 10:55 AM
Remember this is a +6 republican district and this was a republican mid-term wave election, so taking this into account Bishop is doing very well just by apparently surviving.

The terrain promises to be much better for democrats in 2012 in not only NY-1, but across the nation. The republicans will now be in the position of having to defend over 50 CD's in districts where Obama won in 2008. The greater turnout and greater likely enthusiasm on the part of dems in 2012 can very easily return ...more
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 11:54 AM
weeee now you can go watch wheel of fortune. hat head you have this pompous way about you and you dismissive nature. It should not feel like a win you lost 60 + house seats and obama is polling worse than ever.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 1:39 PM
You just described Big government and the SEIU
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 1:50 PM
No one has the right to terminate a life for convenience. Gay rights, Whatever that means, Gay or straight everyone should have the same rights and the right to be with whomever they choose, thats what the idea behind civil unions is about. Religious freedom Yes, as long as those religions abide by the law of the land. The right to a free public education Yes k thru 12 only, get a scholarship or pay for your own continuing education. The right to collectively bargain for wages. Not in my book. Days ...more
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 2:45 PM
Okay Joe, but I think I'll just bask in Bishop's victory. The victory that you and your ilk said was impossible over the past weekend. I will enjoy thinking about how your team assured everyone that Bishop couldn't carry Brookhaven, and how he would lose it 2-1. Oh yes, victory is sweet, especially when one thinks about how badly the conservative action alliance wanted this one. So Joe, you have a nice day and a very Happy Thanksgiving.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 2:51 PM
Thank you Sir I shall. You enjoy your small win here in district 1 And I will enjoy the complete control of the house.There all settled everyones happy.... life is good.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 3:05 PM
And I will enjoy the control of the senate and the presidency. As they say 2 out of 3 ain't bad. And I'm now claiming victory in this juvenile argument. Thank you
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 3:37 PM
Affirmative action absolutely not. Academic scholarships for all Yes
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 8:45 PM
I am not against anyone getting anything as long as you earn it like I did with sweat.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 10:04 PM
By way of Reid Epstein at Newsday. First #ny01 update of day: Bishop now leads Altschuler by 224, per Altschuler spox.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 11:27 AM
From what I've read, the count is supposed to be completed later today.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 11:55 AM
What a joke, You truly can be a delusional person Phil. You act like you showed me the folly of me ways. And then FCM seconds the motion. LOL. Between the press censoring me calling attention to the hypocritical stance you progressives take when counting the deaths of brave men and women who choose to serve in the war, and then supporting partial birth abortions. And your delusional victory's in your own mind. I just have to laugh.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 1:32 PM
I only said there may be circumstances where the choice is difficult. But most pregnancy's are not the result of a rape and the baby should not be terminated for convenience.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 1:53 PM
Why not? Many women get pregnant accidentally and do not want a baby at that point in their lives. Some get talked into going too far - you guys call it seduction, but it's the woman who bears the consequences, others get raped, or someone slips them something in their drink to incapacitate them - which happens more than you may think. I served on a grand jury about that issue. Should those women have to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term and go through the emotional wringer that carrying and then ...more
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Nov 23, 10 3:26 PM
And then the dissertation from Dr Z started , Pre natal specialist at New Yorks Presbyterian Hospital and Dr of advanced cell diagnosis .... Eggs and zygotes plus fertilization X spermatozoon and ovumnomics = a second trimester with no viable life and such no responsiblity for the mother...BLA bla bla
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 2:08 PM
Yes, if there ever was anything close to perpetual warfare, it has been the conservatives 500 year ongoing attacks on science.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 2:57 PM
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By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 2:39 PM
Absentee ballots are finished. Bishop up by 235. Only contested ballots remain and Altschuler has contested many more than Bishop. Looks like it's all over but the shouting. Lets see if Altschuler now thinks a full manual recount is necessary - in contradiction to his earlier dismissal of such a need.
By EastEndHomie (27), Southampton on Nov 23, 10 2:57 PM
I think you can pretty much count on him trying for a manual recount.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 3:07 PM
I think Altschuler will now demand a full hand recount, but wants it done in India.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 3:09 PM
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Breaking: Bishop spox says counting over, Bishop leads by 235 in #ny01 “We are very confident that Tim Bishop has won this election,” says Schneider.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 3:04 PM
Congrats to Mr Bishop...I hope the next 2 years work out for all of us
By sag runner (22), Easthampton on Nov 23, 10 3:22 PM
Thanks for the updates pollbuster.
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Nov 23, 10 3:29 PM
You're very welcome goldenrod
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 3:47 PM
Randy's on Amtrak on the way back to NY. I'm told he bought a one-way ticket. Conrats to Tim-we need him in Washington.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 23, 10 3:47 PM
EastEndHomie and pollbuster have it right on the numbers -- a lead of 235 votes for Bishop. Also, EastEndHomie is right in saying that the Altschuler camp has lodged significantly more ballot challenges than the Bishop camp. Most challenged ballots will be upheld and counted because most challenges, on both sides, are typically found to be without merit. If we assume that both sides directed their challenges to opposing voters, then the side with more of them should wind up losing the contest ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Nov 23, 10 4:03 PM
47% more to be precise.
By EastEndHomie (27), Southampton on Nov 23, 10 4:40 PM
2,051 challenged absentee and affidavit ballots remain up in the air and have not yet been counted in NY-1 A hearing will be held next Tuesday at State Supreme Court in Riverhead on those ballots. Of those ballots 1,261 were challenged by Altschuler, 790 by Bishop.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 4:40 PM
Sorry - I used the older figures. The correct number is 59.6%.
By EastEndHomie (27), Southampton on Nov 23, 10 4:43 PM
It looks like dimmy will win. Congrats dimmy! It was great to see you beat an outsider with a record of outsourcing so handily. 50.00001 have the utmost confidence in your ability to continuing spending our money like a drunken sailor.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 5:22 PM
Good show, razz -- generous in victory, noble in defeat, that's the ticket.
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Nov 23, 10 6:16 PM
I think I just heard razza5350 concede that it's all over, but the crying.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 7:29 PM
does anyone know whether the military votes have been counted yet?
By doc4reform (3), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 5:42 PM
Yes, all the military votes thus far received have been counted. I believe they still have one more day to arrive, so it's possible that a vote or 2 could still trickle in, as long at it's postmarked by Nov. 2.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 7:27 PM
Thank God! District 1 can breathe a huge sigh of relief! I hope this holds, we love you congressman Bishop!
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Nov 23, 10 5:50 PM
Congratulations Congressman Bishop... One more vote against the corporate takeover of America. The news today is that corporations are earning record PROFITS. All on the backs of average working (and non-working) Americans. End the Bush tax cuts for the class who has gouged our society for the last 10 years.... They will never reinvest their profits anyway. Haven't done it for 10 years...won't start now.
By the mink (11), Westhampton Beach on Nov 23, 10 6:25 PM
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LOL.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 6:32 PM
pathetic huh "We love you congressman bishop" LOL
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 8:52 PM
Why is everything black and white, Dem and Rep, Pro Market v Market?
I am a Republican who thinks there is a need for serious need for Market Regulation.
We have to monitor hedge funds for having knowledge (insider) and trading practices (not allowed by typical funds). We have extremely smart people who used to be scientists and artists now working or Wall ...granted making $ ... what does that say for us?
By kelly (75), hampton bays on Nov 23, 10 9:42 PM
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I agree some regulation is necessary Fanny and Freddy included
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 9:58 PM
It looks like dimmy will win. Congrats dimmy! It was great to see you beat an outsider with a record of outsourcing so handily. 50.00001 have the utmost confidence in your ability to continuing spending our money like a drunken sailor.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 6:26 PM
What it looks like is that old razza is losing it, posting at 6:26 the exact same screed he put up just an hour and four minutes earlier, at 5:22. Again I say, generous in victory, noble in defeat, that's razz, showing us how to lose ever so gracefully.
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Nov 23, 10 8:33 PM
Once again, the limousine libs of the East End have re-elected another socialist. Tomorrow they can celebrate by driving their Prius to an overpriced cafe to spend $20.00 on a latte and muffin, where they will discuss how hard times are.
By reality 101 (137), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 6:48 PM
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The Toyota Prius is now built in Blue Springs, Miss. Nice attempted dig though.
By Nature (2963), Hampton Bays on Nov 23, 10 7:21 PM
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"Limousine libs"?? Haven't heard that one in over thirty years. This is cutting edge, real George Wallace populism.
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Nov 23, 10 8:40 PM
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By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 9:00 PM
The Subaru wagon is the perfect lib 4x4 as it is not capable of driving on the beach, which of course is too peasantry for the East End lib. They look down on activities like surf casting or tailgate BBQ. They say they are for the common people, yet they defend the rights of the ocean front millionares. UGGH am getting sick.
By reality 101 (137), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 9:41 PM
where do you come up with this stereotype crap? You are the party wanting tax cuts for the rich so it will trickle down to your trailer.
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 23, 10 10:44 PM
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By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 7:38 PM
Zing! Sad thing is that it's the truth! Randy is a direct conduit to the international opportunists who are trying to take over (Murdoch, Koch, etc). Their gullible followers believe all their false flag waving. A lot of Americans are in denial and they rush to Fox Non News to reaffirm their hate and lies. They would rather see the Country completely destroyed than support any idea the President has that will help them and all Americans. The President, Bishop and the Democrats have done so much ...more
By SunriseHwy (14), Mattituck on Nov 23, 10 11:28 PM
Wasn't Bishop saying the same thing last week. If bishop were in the same position he would be doing the same
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 7:56 PM
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Bishop would never send himself to India.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 23, 10 8:04 PM
Does it really matter what his job approval is? He will win the next election because the republicans without anybody to think creatively will ride the media wave and nominate Sarah Palin. Just like nominating Altsholer a job outsourcer in an economy that is starving for jobs. Can anybody say brain-dead. Who is the genius behind that one?
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 23, 10 10:34 PM
You are actually referring to a Zogby internet poll. They are considered amongst the lamest polls out nowadays.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 24, 10 12:55 AM
What do you mean we are driving to congratulate little timmy thats like 4000 miles! I liked It better when you had that Expensive jet on the tax payers dime.
By They call me (2172), southampton on Nov 23, 10 9:05 PM
Obama is a disaster. He is the most liberal president in U.S. history.
By reality 101 (137), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 9:32 PM
Do the little people who work for G.M. consider him a disaster?
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 23, 10 10:26 PM
If it wasn't for Obama, there would be no G.M. left today.
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 24, 10 12:12 PM
I second that! Disaster....I almost feel sorry for him...
By kelly (75), hampton bays on Nov 23, 10 9:46 PM
Obama never lied about what he was. he consistently talked about wealth redistribution, and fundamentaly changing the U.S. People didnt pay close attention. Now his agenda is being rejected.
By reality 101 (137), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 9:51 PM
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Absolutely
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 9:55 PM
Looks like the self righteous granola crowd went to bed
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 9:57 PM
Phil must be watching that dude Madow again.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 23, 10 10:00 PM
Good one Phil. I'm sure if Randy had won you would have been the first one to congratulate him.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 10:57 PM
Well lets take a stroll down memory lane..... Just hit past comments for Phil and view his class. Lolllll
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 24, 10 12:13 AM
Read this everyone and you will realize we won this battle, next stop 2012
By 27dan (2148), Southampton on Nov 23, 10 10:23 PM
MoveOn, the group that heavily influenced the 2008 election of President Obama, wants its progressive president back. "I miss that guy," says MoveOn organizer Nita Chaudhary in a widely distributed E-mail.
By 27dan (2148), Southampton on Nov 23, 10 10:25 PM
Her worry: Obama is going all moderate on his supporters, especially on the Bush tax cuts. "In the wake of the election, it's more crucial than ever that President Obama stand up for progressive change. But instead he's considering giving in to GOP demands for a tax bailout for the rich. We need the bold, progressive Obama we elected in 2008 back—and we've got to send him that message,"
By 27dan (2148), Southampton on Nov 23, 10 10:25 PM
Ask any Liberal how liberal they think Obama is: they hate him for going towards center, as he began and continues to do. That's why Independents and people who want our government to WORK TOGETHER admire and trust him as our President. ESPECIALLY after eight years of the Bush/Cheney mess.
Suck it up, Liberals and Far Righters! MOST of us fit in the middle!
Obama's a solid chief executive, with a long vision and understanding of the troubles this country is suffering through.If the goddawful ...more
By Jean (76), whb on Nov 23, 10 10:35 PM
I trust neither party, am a Libertarian. I simply view the Republicans as the lesser of 2 evils. The Dems have become socialists, and seam to exude an anti-American view of the world. I cant identify with that.
By reality 101 (137), East Hampton on Nov 23, 10 11:12 PM
Would the little people who work on the line at G.M. consider Obama a socialist ? Is it anti-american that we still produce cars in america or is it better that we just let General Motors fold into the sunset and America gets totally out of the car business.And this is an Anti-american view of the World???? There is a great documentary about the auto worker on HBO. These are real americans who have spent generations working on the line.
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 24, 10 9:44 AM
I own a Ford, which by the way didn't need a bail-out because they actually make good cars that people want. You cannot argue the fact that many dems. look for any opportunity they can to bash America. just look at how obama grovels to Europeans. Again, the Repubs have made major mistakes too, but they dont seam to have this anit-American vibe about them. I feel this way. You dont have to.
By reality 101 (137), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 11:07 AM
Tim Bishop is a good Congressman and deserves to represent the 1st Congressional district. He is a life-long east ender who understands our issues. As far as Randy, he can go and try and buy some other Congressional seat.
Vote Bishop....Vote Local!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 23, 10 11:55 PM
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Tim Bishop is as good a man as Randy...
By kelly (75), hampton bays on Nov 24, 10 1:49 AM
I am am a right sided independent?
I REALLY hate that Randy ships jobs overseas!
I work in the financial field. My first job from college was a job that is now in india.
I worked for Dreyfus in their call center(EAB building)....huge long island presence..I watched the customer service business leave long Island. This was a entry job for me( LIU and people from Hofstra...). Where are the entry jobs for our kids?
By kelly (75), hampton bays on Nov 24, 10 2:00 AM
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The past and present GVT's economic policies have created this environment. Bishop has been part ofthat engine for the last 8 years. Perhaps you should be looking to him for some answers as to why this environment exists
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 7:06 AM
They werent attacked in the midterms because they had no power to dictate policy. The dems controlled the house senate and presidency. Obviously these elections were a signal that the hope and change people were promised is not being delivered
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 11:18 AM
that remains to be seen but the fact remains the dems have controled the house and senate for the last 6 years and the presidency as well for the last 2.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 12:55 PM
Thats right. You are correct. It was 4 years. So I will rephrase it. The dems have controlled the house and senate for the last 4 years and the presidency as well for the last 2. Its also important to note that until the Scott Brown victory they had TOTAL control and could have rammed anything down the rights throat that they wanted. Our country still has high unemployment and we continue to outsource jobs. In fact unless we change something drastically outsourced jobs will continue to rise. People ...more
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 2:58 PM
Lets not get petty with the 4 years Phil (its 47 months vs 48) and lets stick to the topic.
1. Increasing taxes on the wealthy (do you consider 250K per year wealthy?) will NOT create jobs or help to curb outsourcing. In fact it will hurt the middle class people working for small private run business
2. Bishop has been in congressfor the last 8 years. He has not addressed it during that timewhat makes you think he wil address it now.
3. In regards to golden parachutes and hoarding ...more
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 3:41 PM
Here we go when someone disagrees with your position the venom spews.
When calling you petty I was assuming you knew what I was talking about when I corrected myself and said 4 years and two years. Next time would you like the time in hours minutes and secounds
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 6:09 PM
Phil 250k on the northeast really isn't that much. I could maybe see a millionares tax(which has been floated around). You do know that almost all small business out here are s corps which is a pass through entity. Do you think taxing them will help the middle class. I'm sorry but I just don't see how it will help the economy or jobs. giving the middle class a 250 dollar IRS check will not empower them. I could buy it If you want to argue it will help reduce the national debt.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 6:30 PM
Phil most small business owners who employee people make over 250k. Again though let's stick to the orginal topic. How does taxing people (and business) help create jobs, help the economy or help the middle class? I just don't get the logic? I do see how if applied correctly it could help to reduce the debt but too often the GVT just finds another way to spend it.

FYI 250k really does not get you to far these days. When raising three kids, paying a mortgage, saving for retirement, college ...more
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 10:48 PM
again you are not answering the question. How does taxing people and business making over 250k Help the economy, create jobs or help the middle class. Your earlier comment of "I'm for taxing them and leaving us alone who don't make as much" sounds selfish.

As for me.. Let me break it down 250k after state federal and local taxes is about net 150k less
10k charitible contributions, 20k retirement savings,10k health insurance, 20k college fund for 3 kids, 30k for child care, day care ...more
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 11:41 PM
Ok now we are getting somewhere. If you want to apply the additional taxes to pay down debt I can buy that. I can't buy giving an IRS check is going to do anything significant in helping the middle class long term. It is generally accepted economic prinicipal that you do not raise taxes in a recession. If you feel you know more than most economists than so be it.

As far as you attacking my personnal life I guess I shouldn't have opened up to you. I can spend my money anyway I want. If ...more
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 25, 10 11:23 AM
By the way that entertainment expense HELPS the economy. If they tax me more that is most likely the first thing to go. My mortgage which is my biggest expense is for 600,000. I started from scratch, saved and amyrting to live the American dream
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 25, 10 11:28 AM
My sole purpose in trying to point out my situation is that 250k in the northeast is not a ton of money once you get down to it. I don't have a yacht or plane and work very hard to give my family the things I didn't have growing up. I am VERY comfortable with myself and my financing
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 25, 10 1:40 PM
Geez Phil. I am NOT having trouble with mu personnal budget. I am merely for the 1000th time trying to point out that if you make 250k a year you are not living in a mansion or flying around in a gulfstream.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 26, 10 4:17 PM
You're right, 250k is not a large amount in the northeast....if you have a 600k mortgage. My father makes about 250k, had three kids, saving for retirement, etc. etc....but his mortgage is around 200k, living in the Hamptons in a house bought 12 years ago. Yes, the house was a bit small, but we made it work. Sounds like phil is right, you are living outside your means.
By js393784 (1), Southampton on Nov 30, 10 11:23 AM
sounds like you should mind your own business and worry about yourself. Your comparision of your fathers income of 250K with a 250K mortgage 12 YEARS ago is laughable. I'm sure he would have loved getting hit with a tax hike as well.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Dec 2, 10 9:56 AM
Will Randy do the right thing and concede today? Let's hope so.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 24, 10 5:44 AM
Let us remember that Conressman Bishop went 2 for 3, and played solid in the field in the 09 Congressional Baseball Game. It erned him the MVP for the game and coverage on ESPN.
....and he is an effective Congressman who works hard for NY-1.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 24, 10 8:45 AM
It will be interesting to see how much time Randy now spends in the district he sought to represent in congress. It does bother me that Tim was was re-elected by such a narrow margin considering the competition. The Republicans did an excellent job of blaming the economy on the Democrats and riding the wave of public discontent.
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Nov 24, 10 9:25 AM
I must also commend Bishop he did an excellent job of redirecting his failures as a congressmen to make people focus more Randy's outsourcing.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 11:22 AM
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what a crazy back and forth.

Quick question: Will Randy's supporters do what they can to support Bishop in his efforts to work on our behalf on the East End, like they implored Bishop supports to do for Randy?
By tm (172), mtk on Nov 24, 10 10:13 AM
He has never supported many of us as evident by his voting record. Every time I have called his office I have received a sales pitch. The Health care Bill was the perfect example of him selling out
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 11:24 AM
Let's give Randy some credit. With all his money, he could just chill and enjoy life. But does he? No, instead he comes here (OK, just recently) and gives it his all, money-wise and effort-wise, to become our Congressman and serve the people, however misguided I might think his policies are. He runs a vigorous, reasonably fair campaign. Sure, there was some distortion of Tim's voting record and some terrorizing of the old folks about Medicare, but no more than what's been done elsewhere many ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Nov 24, 10 10:39 AM
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Turkey Bridge, you are a class act.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 24, 10 11:00 AM
Thanks, SHNative. I think most of us can be class acts if we just reach in there and fish out the good stuff.
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Nov 24, 10 1:12 PM
Although Palin's not ready for the office of POTUS,yet, she has infinitely more experience in the real world than the POS POTUS we are saddled with now.
By bigfresh (3023), north sea on Nov 24, 10 2:57 PM
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Yeah her experience in the real world comprises her alleged ability to see Russia from her home in Alaska.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 24, 10 6:04 PM
Yes she can see all of Korea, even the libruls in Central Korea.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 24, 10 8:56 PM









Yeah, she was the governor of a state that was roughly the size of Brookhaven, and lasted only 2 years because the going got too rough. She then decides to quit on Alaska and go whoring in the lower 48. Please, please make her the republican nominee.






By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 25, 10 1:23 PM
You doubt we could shuffle her into office?
Can you say George Dubya?
She would NOT be the First Ass to occupy the White House....
By Jean (76), whb on Nov 24, 10 8:51 PM
I'm sorry, but Sarah Palin makes George Dubya look like Albert Einstein.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 24, 10 8:57 PM
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Talk about ass we have our own right here in town .....Do you remeber this example
I KNOW that house.
One has to walk down a curved driveway, to a straight driveway, pass a 2 car garage, and, yes, open a very functional LATCHED gate to get in.
Do I believe Levan's alibi? Bwahaha! Who else would be crazed enough to DO this?
She was SEEN by Grandpa Arrasate next door, and by the VERY inappropriately challenged twelve year old, who should be QUITE capable of picking her out of a lineup, ...more
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 25, 10 12:53 PM
Your contempt for anyone over the poverty level shines through every time you open that big mouth
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 25, 10 12:55 PM
ROFLMAO
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 25, 10 12:59 PM
Another republican house leader convicted and now heading to the big house.

Hang down your head Tom Delay
Hang down your head and cry.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 24, 10 9:38 PM
Amazing rangel or blagovowich won't be joining him. Maybe he will share a cell with our own noble democrat George guildi
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 24, 10 10:57 PM
Yeah, along with those republican values guys like Mark Foley, and Larry Craig, and Bob Ney. Wait I think Ney has served his time.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 24, 10 11:06 PM
I find I have to keep reminding myself, Right Propaganda to the contrary, that neither party has a "mandate" to anything.
Only a small portion of the voting population gets a representative into office: as we are witnessing firsthand in the First Congressional District.
By Jean (76), whb on Nov 24, 10 9:45 PM
Add a mammogram and prostate screening to TSA, call it the "public option" and it'll be gone by Friday.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 24, 10 9:56 PM
as it should be WE DO NOT WANT socialized medicine get it good now go to bed
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 25, 10 12:32 AM
Let me guess Joe, reading comprehension wasn't your strong suit during your short time in school.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 25, 10 12:38 AM
Sorry I was eating a donut. Now! Listen up dim bulb because I am only going to say this once , A public option is a Trojan horse for single-payer health care,The American people know it and they do not want it. End of discussion.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 25, 10 12:55 AM
Medicare is run so ineffectively and has so many gaps in coverage that more and more people are turning to medicare advantage plans that are run by insurance companies. Phil I am just curious do you think money goes on trees? Medicare is on the fast track to insolvency
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 25, 10 8:26 AM
Sir, yes, sir!!!!!!
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 25, 10 1:01 PM
And most of your propaganda derived ideas are on the super fast track to nonsense.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 25, 10 1:30 PM
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By SunriseHwy (14), Mattituck on Nov 25, 10 12:13 AM
Altschuler is everything you say and worse. He couldn't decide whether to run in New Jersey or New York, but then challenges the vote of an 11th generation voter in the district, who also happens to be the father of his opponent.

Altschuler may one day steal his way into office, but rest assured it isn't going to happen this time.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 25, 10 12:48 AM
Oh and one other thing Sunrise, there are a few in this forum, who see all the things you have pointed out about Altschuler as positive. Yeah, I know it takes all kinds.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 25, 10 12:53 AM
Let me try this without using any slang words that could upset Mr. Moderator.
Why is It that everytime there is a progressive knuckle head in the left (Passing lane) that refuses to get over because in his omnivalence he feels everyone behind him is going fast enough. Or my other favorite the "safety first" self centered arrogant driver who has 15 car lengths in between his car and the next one.they are always driving a Prius, Subaru or a Volvo. Cant you folks take a bus to Trader Joe's?
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 25, 10 1:12 AM
When people drive under the speed limit, that DOES cause road rage, and rightfully so. In California, they have a law that says that if there are four cars behind you and you are driving slow, you are REQUIRED to pull over when possible and let the others get around you. It is one thing to be driving 40 in a 35 zone, and quite another to be doing 30 in a 45 because you don't know where you are going.
By DaveB (13), Flanders on Nov 27, 10 7:38 PM
Yea that's it Cptn....NYS election law be dammed. Let's not have the laws of the land interfere with your right-wing-nut partisan agenda.
Election Law be dammed?? Are you for real?
This is exactly the problem with your movement. That is you will quote Jefferson and wave American flags and complain about the new health care law, but you all want your Social Security and your medicare, and now you say "NYS ELECTION LAW BE DAMMED".
You guys are growing more and more like the National Socialists ...more
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 25, 10 9:56 AM
Love driving on the LIE-I set my cruise control for 69 in the HOV lane. There are times when someone will go nuts but there's nothing they can do about it. I'm not going any faster.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 25, 10 11:10 AM
Is that your Prius always under the front bumper of my Escalade ?Didn't your father ever teach you about road edicate. The HOV is one thing but the left lane is for passing.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 25, 10 12:33 PM
In states that actually enforce all laws, not just the ones they see fit, you will receive a ticket for holding up traffic in the left. Is it because you like the rush you get finally being the leader of something. Or is It your way of punishing an excessive world of speed and money. To bad you cant sprinkle some moon dust on the Uber house and make it Those Mc Mansions shrink down to a more reasonable size you and Ms Conrad find acceptable. I bet you would love that.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 25, 10 12:36 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to all !!!
By Mets fan (897), Southampton on Nov 25, 10 11:21 AM
Yes, All you Progressive radicals enjoy you TOFURKY
By They call me (2172), southampton on Nov 25, 10 12:14 PM
Happy Thanksgiving Phil, We should all be thankful we live in a country that affords you such freedoms. And for the men and women that have served and perished so valiantly so you could posses those freedoms.

I would like to take this moment to thank all our Men and Women and their family's who are currently fighting oversees. Thank you for your unselfish service to this great country.................. LET FREEDOM RING !
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 25, 10 12:45 PM
Yes indeed, Joe very true.To Appreciate Freedom, Talk to People Who Have Lived Without It ... In countries where people are all equal and the state provides benefits to all. It only assures everyone is equally miserable.
By 27dan (2148), Southampton on Nov 25, 10 1:08 PM
Yes Happy Thanksgiving Joe, and be careful of those public options, they're everywhere. God Bless everyone-no exceptions.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 25, 10 1:36 PM
Lets all be thankful THE RIGHT PERSON WON this election,and not some rightwing carpetbagger.......
By DJ9222 (81), southampton on Nov 25, 10 3:16 PM
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Me, too. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. We are, indeed, fortunate to be citizens of a country that holds individual freedom in such high esteem. I think of our countrymen who are soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan every day. May a Thanksgiving miracle happen and may no more of them be injured there until we leave.
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 25, 10 5:09 PM
to joe hampton-no I drive a Ford Explorer and have never been stopped for speeding or for blocking traffic. I just refuse to drive over 70 mph.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 25, 10 6:17 PM
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Happy Thanksgiving. God bless America. Henceforth may She only do right by her people and all the peoples of the world. And, to everyone here (as the local radio station likes to say)... THANKS FOR CARING !!
By rss0246 (23), East Hampton on Nov 25, 10 8:33 PM
Vermont moving forward with Single Payer! Must Read http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/11/25/923327/-Vermont-moving-forward-with-Single-Payer!-Must-Read-%28Update-1%29
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 26, 10 12:15 AM
Per section 1332 of the crappy health care reform bill Vermont can't even blow it's nose until 2017.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 26, 10 8:41 AM
Rational behind it is they didn't want states opting out. Single payer may also have it's pitfalls especially for the middle class working in the private sector. It passes the buck from the employer to the individual. It also transfers the burden of providing care on an ineffective GVT and still does not address the core of the problem which is the cost of care.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 26, 10 9:18 AM
Try reading the linked article, or maybe find someone who will read it to you.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 26, 10 10:50 AM
Single-payer health care is the financing of the costs of delivering universal health care for an entire population through a single insurance pool out of which costs are met. It is a form of monopsony. There may be many contributors to the single pool (insured persons, employers, government, etc.)

Single-payer health insurance collects all medical fees and then pays for all services through a single government (or government-related) source.[1] In wealthy nations, this kind of publicly-managed ...more
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 26, 10 10:58 AM
Redistribution of wealth! No thanks, repeal this bill we must and repel it we shhall.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 26, 10 11:36 AM
Thank God district 1 NY is not in charge of congress. The people of this republic see the grave mistake they allowed to happen in the election of obama, They are ready to correct this error In a magnitude never seen before in a election involving a sitting president. Right now even president Bush as a higher higher likability than obama.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 26, 10 11:45 AM
I am not insulting you and do not know why you feel the need to insult me. I am merely presenting you with the potential pitfalls of single payer. It is true that per the health care reform bill Vermont can not opt out and pursue single payer until 2017. If the Gvt allows them to pursue it they will then need to allow other state to adopt their own model. Most would love to opt out altogether.

In regards to single payer you are correct with Medicare. It is the nearest thing we have to single ...more
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 26, 10 4:30 PM
I'm not insulting you, I just don't think you've read the link with your 2017 reference.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 26, 10 8:53 PM
Do tell us Joe, how are you going to "repel" it? Or more accurately repeal it? It seems to me that HCR will be expanding soon in Vermont, California, Oregon, Hawaii, and Massachusetts. Remember Joe, it started with just one little prairie province in Canada, Saskatchewan and was fought tooth a nail by the big insurance companies every step of the way.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 26, 10 9:08 PM
I have if you read the whole section 1332 which refers to states opting out you will see that they can not do so until 2017. I have linked an article about senator wyden pushing to get the date pushed back to 2014. For your reference its huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/01/wyden-puhing-for-oregon_n_n701785.htl
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 26, 10 9:31 PM
So move to Saskatchewan and take Alec Baldwin with you .
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 26, 10 11:40 PM
Joe, you still haven't told us how you are going to repel, and/or repeal it? I guess that's just a lot of teabag bluster.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 28, 10 4:20 PM
East end I think what Joe. Was saying is you can go as slowly. As you like just not in the left lane.
By 27dan (2148), Southampton on Nov 26, 10 1:02 AM
Yes, Thank you Dan
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 26, 10 11:46 AM
There are a number of national healthcare models that western European nations and Japan follow. Single-payer is only one.

A system in which the government neither owns the hospitals nor pays the providers directly also works. (For instance, France)

What CANNOT work is the system that was voted in here, where FOR-PROFIT insurance companies run the show. Not only is expense encouraged by the corporations whose lode star is share value, but the focus of performance becomes achieving ...more
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 26, 10 1:31 PM
The model you speak of is Medicare. It is neither sustainable or cost effective.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 26, 10 3:20 PM
to razza5350:

Before responding to you, would you care to specify how Medicare resembles the model to which I refer?
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 26, 10 5:37 PM
How doesnt it? You are saying that in order to be sustainable and cost effective it must be run at non for profit. The only organization that presently provides coverage (that I know of)presently at non for profit is the GVT. Blue Cross tried making a go of it a few years back but was bankrupting the state and was sold to Wellpoint which is now running it at profit.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 26, 10 6:21 PM
Medicare is sui generis. It is a government health insurance program whose participants have already paid their membership via deductions while earning. It has no authority to set prices other than stating the maximum that it will pay for procedures and treatment. Doctors and hospitals comply with its set prices because it is such a huge part of their business that they would be bankrupt (in most cases) if they did not. It is also limited to that segment of the population that is the sickest. ...more
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 26, 10 8:51 PM
In regards to you first paragraph for profit companies offer coverage to that population through plans called medicare advantage. The plans offer better coverage and do not require particpants to purchase costly medigap policies. The plans are sold by insurance companies and they make a profit.

In paragraph two we have the same issue. GVT run health care (Medicare and Medicaid) is operating at massive losses. They both have massive unfunded liabilities and if nothing is done they will be ...more
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 26, 10 10:10 PM
to razza5350:

If you don't mind, I'll list your points by paragraph for the sake of brevity.

1) Medicare Advantage piggybacks on Medicare. No Medicare = No Medicare Advantage. They do not compete with Medicare because they can't. Medicare covers too much. I don't think we have a disagreement here.

2) Agreed. But they offer what they do because of increased hospital & physician costs that the politicians have not passed on to the electorate.

3) An artificial ...more
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 27, 10 10:25 AM
no prob. I will respond in kind.

1. With all due respect I disagree. I believe you are confusing Medicare advanatage plans with Medigap (medicare supplement) policies. Medigap policies are offered in combination with traditional medicare because the medicare coverage is like swiss cheese. The medigap policies fill in the gaps. Medicare Advantage plans (not to be confused with medigap policies) are used in lieu of medicare. In essence you waive your right to medicare and insure with a for ...more
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 27, 10 2:12 PM
to razza535:

You're right. I WAS confusing Medicare Advantage with Medigap. However, a little research on Wikipedia reveals that: a) Medicare Advantage patients paid a extra monthly premium. b) The Federal Government gave them a $14B subsidy in 2009. c) They were permitted to skew covered procedures away from areas that have large, unpredictable down sides and towards services that are more controllable.

Under those circumstances, one would expect better service. Were the ...more
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 27, 10 5:10 PM
comparing Medicare advantage and traditional medicare would take a week but I will try to summarize. People who opt to to take medicare advantage plans can opt to pay an additional fee IF they opt to increase coverage and receive out of network benefits but the base plans cost are significantly less than traditional medicare becuse they do not need to buy a medigap policy.

It is very true that the GVT subsidies these plans but their is a reason. For example medicare Part B (major medical) ...more
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 28, 10 11:10 AM
Why do people on the far right fight so hard for Health Insurance Companies and their profits? These companies proved how they can push back politically when their profits are threatened.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 26, 10 8:14 PM
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How many times do we have to say It Native, We are not fighting for the health Ins. Company's . What we are fighting for is the free market system. We do not want big government and the redistribution of wealth. Allowing competition across state lines would be a good start.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 26, 10 11:37 PM
With the new legislation, you can buy whatever health insurance you want. There...free market system....for Health Insurance Companies,
And please spare me the Fox-O-Matic responses.....redistribution of wealth.....big government......
The Health Insurance Companies that you Right-Wing-Nuts are fighting for would just assume let you die if they could save $3500 rather than treating you.

By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 27, 10 12:03 AM
When you are required to pay for health insurance, and you can't possibly afford it, that isn't the sort of choice any of us want. Have you even looked at how much health insurance costs if it is not subsidized by an employer?

What most people really do not understand is that the insurance companies want so much each year that many employers just can't afford to provide it these days. What do you do, have only three employees with health insurance, or 10 without? That is what employers ...more
By DaveB (13), Flanders on Nov 27, 10 7:35 PM
Comrade Native you are a lost cause
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 27, 10 12:51 AM
Comrade Joe….You know that I am correct. Health Insurance companies make huge profits and we pay the tab, even with those who have no insurance. You see, we do have a kind of health insurance for all. Emergency rooms treat everyone who enters and they pass the bill to us through the Health Insurance Companies, and they tac-on a fee for themselves. That is what we have NOW.
So Comrade….Turn off Fox, read, watch other types of news organizations and try to have a more open mind.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 27, 10 8:50 AM
Pointless to argue with him joe. FYI it is true that insurance companies indirectly charge us to cover the uninsured but that is due to a tax imposed on them by the GVT.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Nov 27, 10 9:41 AM
No arguement.....I am correct.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 27, 10 10:09 AM
Native I watch and read every thing I can get my hands on.That is why I have come to the conclusions I have.You just want something for nothing and I say hands off what I earned. Currently we do have a sort of health care for all with emergency room care.I am all for helping the poor in an emergency and helping children of all ages. You just want to make I more comfortable for Illegals and others who cant afford it to get extended services. If it was up to your kind homeless people would be getting ...more
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 27, 10 10:21 AM
Or perhaps Joe H is a small biz owner and Philathome has no concept of how difficult it is to run a business, keep people employed, and try to make a profit. You see, most people who work really hard and are willing to take the risk of starting a business get rather annoyed at liberals who think that everyone deserves to have things handed to them. You have the the right for the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit doesn't guarantee success, medical insurance, a house, or a wage over the minimum level. ...more
By double standard (1506), quogue on Nov 27, 10 1:12 PM
His employees can buy insurance for them self that way they will see how expensive it is and shop around.
By They call me (2172), southampton on Nov 28, 10 9:47 PM
Problem is, joe never thinks about where the money that subsidized his business came from.

Most of it was dirty, derivatives driven, Wall St. money.

The same funding that destroyed our economy, by evaporating away, since it never really existed in the firstplace. Were it not for deregulation, the East End would most likely not be overdeveloped, and men like joe would not have made the "fortune" for themselves they have.
Nov 28, 10 11:30 PM appended by Mr. Z
Yes, the source of the funds which overpopulated, oversexed, and overdeveloped was purely criminally, malfeasant fiscal behavior. There is no changing that. Just a shame there have not been enough of those responsible facing prosecution. If only Brooksley Borne had been listened to, the East End would still have much open space...
By Mr. Z (9527), North Sea on Nov 28, 10 11:30 PM
Now get in your prius block traffic up to Cedar point and collect your mushrooms
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 27, 10 10:23 AM
Comrade Joe....Why so angry. Remember that we are all Americans.
As far as your earlier post, all of those things are happening now. Except for the massages and vacations on your dime. (You really lost it there.) Go into an emergency room and you will see people using it as a general practitioner. They and their children are there for all sorts of things. That all gets bills to the health insurance companies and then to us. (personal and business)
Health Insurance companies are choking ...more
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 27, 10 5:25 PM
Vacationing a Human Right
By DAVID SEGAL
Published: November 16, 2010
In a bold step intended to reduce poverty, the European Union will soon be providing some of the Continent’s poorest citizens with subsidized plane tickets and hotel rooms. The New York Times reported on Monday that the European Union has declared
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 27, 10 7:08 PM
traveling for tourism a human right, and is launching a scheme to subsidize vacations with taxpayer money for those too poor to afford their own trips. The Times reports that the program, which will soon be piloted and fully launched in 2013, would involve taxpayers underwriting sixty percent of the cost of the vacation bill for families facing “difficult social, financial, or personal” circumstances. The Times reports that the program, once fully implemented, would cost European taxpayers ...more
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 27, 10 7:09 PM
Thank you Double
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 27, 10 7:00 PM
Lol Who would have believed It Joe.It cant be far behind . WOW! I guess he shut you up Native.
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Nov 27, 10 7:13 PM
Lol Who would have believed It Joe.It cant be far behind . WOW! I guess he shut you up Native.
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Nov 27, 10 7:15 PM
Comrade Joe...is talking about a whimsical idea in the European Union not here in the US. This has no bearing to our current health care LAW.
Health Insurance companies are choking ...more the United States of America…..and you are defending them.
Capt...it was the Health Insurance Companies raising their rates right before the election to sway the votes of Americans.....they are real S.O.Bs!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 27, 10 7:52 PM
Does anyone know the time and place of Randy's speech tomorrow? I can't find the announcement.
Nov 28, 10 2:56 PM appended by EastEnd68
Disregard
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 28, 10 2:56 PM
What speech?
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Nov 28, 10 3:24 PM
You Might be a Republican If……….

1. You believe George W. Bush’s redistribution of middle-class tax cuts to the top 1% of tax-payers was good for America, but Obama’s plan to return it to the middle class is ‘socialism.’
2. You believe stem cells are living human beings, but thousands of Iraqi children are ‘expendable collateral damage.’
3. You believe tax cuts for billionaires is a great idea, yet you wonder why the ...more
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 28, 10 4:31 PM
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You might be a liberal if you continue to use GW Bush's disastrous presidency as the root of all our problems and a built in excuse for the ineptitude for the current regime.

Put down your party sign for a moment and examine what Obama has done without comparison to GWB. It's ugly.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Nov 28, 10 5:05 PM
"Conservative friends," I guess they are people who are cautious about their friendship. LOL
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 28, 10 6:45 PM
I can live without another speech. Just count all the ballots!
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Nov 28, 10 4:32 PM
The votes have all been counted. All that's left is about 2000 challenged ballots. Altschuler has challenged around 500 more votes than Bishop, and as most challenges are disallowed on both sides, Bishop figures to expand his lead as the challenges are disposed, and win by close to 700 or so.

Randy, of course, in typical sore loser fashion will likely initiate one of those frivolous torts which conservatives are always telling us they are against, but are usually the first ones to go screaming ...more
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 28, 10 5:35 PM
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A speech by Randy....Hey maybe Randy Outsourcer will tell us his positions on some of the issues beyond the Fox/GOP attack points.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 28, 10 5:32 PM
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I think the reason we may not have heard about the speech was because it was outsourced to India.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 28, 10 5:36 PM
You talk about "same old" like it's a negative, and then espouse a conservative philosophy that would like to go back to the 1500's.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 28, 10 7:10 PM
You Know You're a Conservative When -

You know you're a conservative when you can believe that the nation should be ruled according to the Bible but conveniently forget the part about wealth being the most certain path AWAY from any Christian ideal of heaven.

You know you're a conservative when you believe that the poor are in that situation because they are lazy and then you thank God for all of your good fortunes (see above).

You know you're a conservative ...more
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 28, 10 9:38 PM
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When applied to the conservative goals here:

1 check
2 check
3 double check
4 check
5 check
6 check
7 double check
8 double check
9 check
10 check
11 triple check
12 check
13 check
14 double check


By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 28, 10 10:26 PM
Chapter 11, Title 11, United States Code refers also to the bankruptcy of your ideas. Maybe you need to go file.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 28, 10 11:38 PM
Dear Mr. President

We are writing to urge you to stand firm against those who would put politics ahead of their country.

For the fiscal health of our nation and the well-being of our fellow citizens, we ask that you allow tax cuts on incomes over $1,000,000 to expire at the end of this year as scheduled.

We make this request as loyal citizens who now or in the past earned an income of $1,000,000 per year or more.

We have done very well over the last several years. ...more
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 29, 10 12:12 AM
500+ posts about nonsense, for the most part. That sums this whole thread up in 1 sentence or less.
By cochise316 (58), southampton on Nov 29, 10 1:08 AM
707 more days to freedom!
By They call me (2172), southampton on Nov 29, 10 8:54 AM
Philth at home said " Many observers have argued that Palin could never win because of her embarrassing lack of expertise, knowledge,

Didn't seem to affect this dreamer from getting elected?
By 27dan (2148), Southampton on Nov 29, 10 9:09 AM
True, but I totally understand why people voted for Obama in 2010 after eight yrs of GWB. What I don't understand is why so many are unwilling to admit that he is doing a poor job. The theory of Obama played much better than the reality.
That said, if my choice is Palin or Obama in 2012 I'll opt for a night of pizza and ice cream with my family. Seriously, we should expect better. We should demand better.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Nov 29, 10 9:41 AM
When is the race offically over? and who declares it over?
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 29, 10 12:09 PM
About Wiki leaks I just want to say "it's about time" Obama promised change and transparency and we are getting it. This information is clearly being disseminated by inside sources and for good reason. I don't think there is a Democrat alive today that isn't cheering the release of this trove of information. Democracy Now!! Democracy Now!!! O ba Ma! O bs Ma!!!!!
By local 84 (302), riverhead on Nov 29, 10 1:22 PM
How many Czars were placed behind our backs. Democracy my butt.
By double-D (96), southampton on Nov 30, 10 4:47 PM
Obama does very little without Soros' approval so-as to bring down the US and to fundamentally change this country... While Obama would love to kill off America and the West, he doesn't have the brains to engineer the leaks. George Soros, however, does and would love nothing more than to punish Obama for not giving him (Soros) his money's worth.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 29, 10 1:48 PM
Local 84,You are truly a useful idiot for the cause.Who puts you up to this... Poll buster,Sh native,Mr Z ?
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 29, 10 1:52 PM
It looks to me, like Local 84 is one of your boys, Joe
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 30, 10 11:57 PM
well I guess that is a start. Now if the unions would get realistic It would be a step in the right direction.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 29, 10 7:32 PM
Bishop lead now stands at 221. It was reduced to 215 after all the military ballots were counted, 44-24 for Altschuler, but went back to 221 after some ballots were unchallenged by both sides and counted.

Counting of the challenged ballots will begin tomorrow.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 30, 10 7:07 PM
I know that this has to play out until the official BoE certification but, in reality, it's over. If past history is a guide, virtually ALL the challenged ballots will be verified. Altschuler has challenged lots more than Bishop so the final total will give Bishop a much greater lead.

Somebody mentioned 800 which is a pretty good guess but, certainly, not less than 600 in any case and possibly over 1000.
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Nov 30, 10 8:35 PM
It's not going to be anywhere near a 1000, but it is likely to be somewhere between 300-600.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 1, 10 12:01 AM
ok hat head very happy for you, Now lets talk about jobs
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Nov 30, 10 8:37 PM
If ignorance is bliss, then why are teabaggers always so angry?
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Nov 30, 10 11:58 PM
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Bishop up 247 over Altschuler at #ny01 lunch break. Each side dismissed another 80 challenges. Still 1,600 challenges left.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 1, 10 3:01 PM
705 Days till we FUNDAMENTALLY change the country back!
By They call me (2172), southampton on Dec 1, 10 4:50 PM
You should check your math on the 705 figure, unless you're talking about Chris Christie's weight.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 1, 10 4:57 PM
#ny01 update: Nothing new since lunch. Still Bishop +247. Bishop would like the 169 emergency ballots to count, since he's +12 in them.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 1, 10 4:54 PM
Since the challenged ballots began to be disposed of yesterday, both sides had agreed to unchallenge 418 ballots, 209 each. This has led to a gain +32 for Bishop

Of the 1,525 still-contested ballots that were awaiting the judge’s review, 1,146 were being challenged by the Republican side and 539 by the Democrats.

The math is getting more and more difficult for Altschuler as this proceedes.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 1, 10 7:05 PM
If each side agreed to dismiss challenges for 209 votes, how can Bishop be up + 32? Isn't each side up an equal number?
By highhatsize (3320), East Quogue on Dec 2, 10 12:36 AM
#ny01 update: Bishop up 259 at day's end. BOE/attys to examine non-residency challenges tomorrow. Judge tells them to go faster.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 1, 10 7:48 PM
its funny how the party of human rights and tolerance can make fat jokes when it is convenient and suits there militant causes .
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Dec 1, 10 9:53 PM
Joe, I have to admit you're right, because in the midst of an obesity epidemic, it wasn't appropriate.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 1, 10 10:44 PM
Ward Churchill would be proud of your remarks poll.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Dec 1, 10 9:55 PM
And Winston Churchill as well.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 1, 10 10:51 PM
You seem to pride yourself in being able to take the position of the most disgusting , progressive and least patriotic every time. Michael Moore would be proud.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Dec 1, 10 11:15 PM
Do you think Winston Churchill was a disgusting progressive Joe? Adolf Hitler would be proud of Joey.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 1, 10 11:42 PM
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By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 2, 10 1:28 AM
Altschuler atty now reading names of 21 ballots for which he's withdrawing objections. Congrats, Jerome Levin, your vote counts. #ny01
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 2, 10 11:42 AM
Altschuler has withdrawn another 23 objections, Bishop 29. Ballots being pulled and they will be counted soon. #ny01
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 2, 10 11:44 AM
Judge Peter Mayer has thrown out ballots from six would-be voters who did not properly lick the seals on their envelopes. #ny01
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 2, 10 3:07 PM
it's so ridiculous it's funny
By sirpoochala (76), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 10 6:20 PM
They've counted about 120 ballots today (all day) in #ny01 and Bishop is +5 on day, +264 total. GOP requested counting stop. Not sure why.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 2, 10 3:08 PM
#ny01 update: Bishop +12 on 184 ballots counted today, +271 overall. Still 71 ballots both sides agreed to be counted tonight
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 2, 10 6:14 PM
. Bishop +277 at day's end.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 2, 10 10:33 PM
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By jose1 (28), southampton on Dec 3, 10 8:15 AM
<------ I will dispatch Joe Bidin with stimuls $ cash $ to talk some sence into the senate . Those rich bastards will pay if it is the last thing aI do.
By Undocumented Democrat (1543), southampton on Dec 4, 10 11:31 PM
Lookie, lookie, an undercover teabagger. You can always tell by the spelling.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 6, 10 12:15 PM
Hey, you teabagging dittohead, I thought you guys were supposed to be AGAINST deficit spending? I guess it is OK to add to the debt as long as the rich benefit, right? We know where you republicans stand - with the rich and against the middle class. The top three presidents who have ADDED to the debt - all republicans.
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Dec 7, 10 12:14 PM
I love it when people whom have no true argument resort to name calling. I embrace teabagging. it makes me feel good that I love the country my ancestors decided to immigrate to. Unfortunatley for me people like you really dont understand that poor people don't build mansions that employ hundreds of construction workers or one other really important fact. They pay the bulk of the school taxes. Listen real close I pay 11,000 dollars a year in school taxes wich I think is really excessive. The ...more
By davidcHB (7), southampton on Dec 8, 10 10:20 PM
Suffolk BOE counted 80 ballots in #ny01 today. Bishop +3 on day. He's +274 according to Bishop spox, +267 says Altschuler spox.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 6, 10 6:12 PM
of the 1325 still contested ballots from last friday how many still remain after today's court go round?
By sirpoochala (76), Hampton Bays on Dec 6, 10 7:13 PM
I think they have opened another 100 for counting today.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 7, 10 3:58 PM
100 votes counted today in #ny01. Altschuler +4 on the day. Bishop now +270 or +263, depending on which campaign is counting.
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 7, 10 6:41 PM
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By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 7, 10 9:14 PM
BREAKING: Randy Altschuler concedes in #ny01
By pollbuster (132), Islip on Dec 8, 10 11:50 AM
Bishop attributes victory to strong constituent service operation and partnerships with other local elected officials. #ny01
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By davidcHB (7), southampton on Dec 8, 10 10:21 PM
whew.
Seems millionaires aren't happy just being rich.... glad we ducked this one.

Congressman Bishop, support your President, please.

Wingers of either persuasion do NOT represent America.
Personally, I think Obama made us some lemonade out of lemons.

We're stuck with millionaire welfare for just two years this time, NO ONE'S taxes go up in January-- as a matter of fact, we all will have some plumped up paychecks to offset those frikkin' corporations raising the ...more
By Jean (76), whb on Dec 9, 10 6:25 PM
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