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Apr 15, 2011 9:48 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Town Changes Leaf Pick-Up Program Again

Apr 15, 2011 9:48 AM

Once again, Southampton Town Highway Superintendent Alex Gregor has gone back to the drawing board to restructure the town’s leaf pickup program—and for starters, after this year, the town no longer plans to pick up any leaves.

An unusually brutal winter, coupled with a three-year hiring freeze, has left Mr. Gregor doing some serious thinking about how to reform the town’s leaf cleanup. Beginning next fall, highway trucks will no longer rumble down town roads to pick up leaves from nearly 40,000 homes. Instead, residents will be given the option of participating in a voucher system from November 1 to January 31, whereby they can drop off their leaves and brush for free at five town locations still to be determined. They will most likely be locations in the hamlets of Noyac, North Sea, Westhampton, Hampton Bays and Bridgehampton, he said.

“No more on the street,” Mr. Gregor said of the piles of leaves. “The party’s over. Everyone’s fed up with it. I’m fed up with it, too.”

Putting the brakes on the program is not a new idea. Mr. Gregor had been considering reforming the leaf program as early as June last year.

The progression of this year’s program has taught Mr. Gregor a lesson: that leaves can’t be picked up in a reasonable time frame because of the hiatus brought on by weather. This year’s program, which began in November, was halted for two months due to an intense series of snowstorms. It resumed in February, and town employees now expect that the entire town will be cleared of leaves in two weeks. Currently, crews are working west of the Shinnecock Canal, Mr. Gregor said. Properties on the east side of the canal have already been cleaned up.

The prolonged leaf pickup program distracts the department from other more traditional priorities like road maintenance and drain cleaning, he said. And trying to pick up the leaves earlier to beat the winter weather won’t work, he said. “You can’t call me up and tell me to shake the leaves out of your tree,” Mr. Gregor said.

Under the new program next fall, residents will be given vouchers to prove they’re town residents. At the drop-off locations, town employees will check for names, addresses and phone numbers to verify that the person is a town resident. Mr. Gregor said it doesn’t need to be the actual town resident who drops off the leaves—it just needs to be someone who would be able to verify the name, address and phone number of a town resident.

As a courtesy for residents 77 years old or older, town employees will still come by and pick up their leaves from curbside, he said.

The brush pickup program will remain intact next year, Mr. Gregor said, because that program is typically completed quickly, within a matter of four to five weeks in the spring, after the worst of the winter weather is over.

This year, highway workers cleaned up leaves in the eastern districts quickly, in part because Mr. Gregor said he found farmers who were willing to take the leaves and compost them. But the snowstorms halted everything.

“I found strategic spots in Bridgehampton, Noyac and Water Mill where I could bring the leaves,” he said. “That made a tremendous difference. But still, a month and three days into the fall program, we had 8 inches of snow, and then it snowed again, and then it snowed again, and then it snowed again.”

Part of the problem is that once it snows, that snow gets plowed around the piles of leaves, leading to narrower roads and unsafe traffic and pedestrian conditions, he said. And also, a lot of the times, the snow melts and the leaves get stuck decomposing in the drains, which clogs them up.

Members of some civic groups and town citizen advisory committees said they don’t blame Mr. Gregor or the town for the delayed leaf pick-up this year.

“I understand,” said Bruce King, president of the Hampton Bays Civic Association. “He got pushed back because of the snowstorms we had.”

Mr. King said the leaf pick-up program and its pending changes aren’t a big issue for his civic group, but said he could see some people in his community being upset about it.

Hank Beck, co-chair of the Citizens Advisory Committee-West, offered a balanced perspective. While he said he could see how the new program next year would free up some of the department’s time to accomplish some of “the non-sexy stuff,” like road repairs, he can see how some people without the means to haul their leaves to a drop-off location would view the change as burdensome.

“It comes back to, people will look at it as a tax,” he said. “I’m paying something now that I didn’t pay before for the service that I’m not getting. It’s a tax.”

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Note to Mr. Gregor; We don't elect heads of Town Departments to tell us what they can't do for us. It's an easy job when something is a problem you just don't do it anymore.
By Sandflea (35), Southampton on Apr 6, 11 9:52 AM
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By auntof9 (157), Southampton on Apr 6, 11 10:57 AM
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By auntof9 (157), Southampton on Apr 6, 11 11:04 AM
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By auntof9 (157), Southampton on Apr 6, 11 10:57 AM
Still waiting to have my leaves picked up from last year.
By maxwell (169), speonk on Apr 6, 11 11:15 AM
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Monies are allocated for leaf pick up. If the Highway Dept cannot handle the job then put the job out for bid. In this economy, my bet is that someone is willing to do the job quickly and efficiently. How much will the voucher program cost? Who decided on age 77 for leaf pick up? How will this work? How many residents are 77 and older? This plan is ludicrous. Residents are tired of hearing "we are understaffed". We should be able to vote on this change!
By auntof9 (157), Southampton on Apr 6, 11 11:15 AM
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By auntof9 (157), Southampton on Apr 6, 11 11:15 AM
Picking up leaves is something that can be measured,,,they are picked up or they are not,yes this year was an exception,but thats no reason to just decide '' THE PARTY IS OVER'' No Alex the party has just started for the Highway Dept have fun for now as a ONE term Superintendent,
By Etians rd (542), Southampton on Apr 6, 11 2:58 PM
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PUT IT OUT TO BID COMPANIES ARE TAKING JOBS AT NO GAIN JUST TO KEEP EMPLOYEES WORKING NOW A DAYS WE MIGHT SAVE A BUCK
By PMEQ1 (3), EAST QUOGUE on Apr 6, 11 3:33 PM
There is much confusion on the Leaf Program. I am glad to see that the East Side of the canal did not have to worry about their leaves. I pay a landscaper to rake and mow. If you are not picking up the leaves, mkae it known to everybody.
By Bridget325 (27), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 11 7:03 PM
Why not only pick up leaves that have been bagged and left by the curb? The bags can be offered by the Town as long as they are sufficiently strong and very inexpensive.

Town employees can work that much faster and get it done before the deep freeze sets in, weather-wise or hiring-wise. Throw the bags in the back of the truck, no more time-consuming raking.

Alternatively, give taxpayers vouchers to give to private haulers in return for picking up leaves and let them redeem them ...more
By William Rodney (558), southampton on Apr 6, 11 8:00 PM
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I expect my tax bill to reflect the reduction in service. I guess it's safe to say we can cut the highway dept rolls in half since it sounds like 80% of the manpower was being used for cleanup. A private company could do the entire hamlet of Flanders in a week but it takes the hwy dept months.

Hey alex I turn 77 next year!
By politcal pawn (120), Flanders on Apr 6, 11 8:09 PM
The Town Board should freeze all hiring and purchases at the Highway Department. Obviously if this program is cut the staffing and equipment needs of the department should be substantially reduced. Based on this article it is absolutely unclear what this voucher program is all about. I should take my leaves to a drop off point for what purpose? There is a lot to be said but Gregor has a lot of nerve for being so deceitful about this matter with the residents and taxpayers of Southampton over this ...more
By V.Tomanoku (788), southampton on Apr 7, 11 12:26 AM
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my leaves are still on Montauk Hwy from the fall. I realize it snowed and was impossible to get , but why was the hwy always last? I don't use a landscaper and my husband and I gather the leaves every year. How do we get the leaves to designated area? ( we are not 77 either)
By downtownquiogue (1), Westhampton Beach on Apr 6, 11 9:02 PM
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its official, the town now provides absolutely no service to the average taxpayer!

Kudos!
By ridiculous (214), hampton bays on Apr 6, 11 10:11 PM
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Mr. Gregor,

You fouled up! Big time.
For alll of these years things were fine until you entered the scene.

What a loser
By elliot (254), sag harbor on Apr 7, 11 7:03 AM
The residents want their leaf pick up!!!

By elliot (254), sag harbor on Apr 7, 11 7:04 AM
I live on a corner lot in North Sea, still waiting for leaf pick up on one side of my property. East of the canal is finished, not quite!
By bigfresh (4594), north sea on Apr 7, 11 7:08 AM
Still waiting for leaf pick up in Hampton Bays off Lynn Avenue on Donellan. :((( I guess next year I'll rake them into my Camaro.
By hrdygrljr (10), Hampton Bays on Apr 7, 11 8:42 AM
Dont' count on it not happening. It happened in East Hampton and the leaves still sit on some lawns. You get fined if they are not removed from the street! This is the only thing that I see that the Town really did for us now they take it away. Where is the money now being spent? I wonder????
By gypsy222 (20), East Hampton on Apr 7, 11 8:54 AM
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By hokeypokey (2), Southampton on Apr 18, 11 10:27 PM
they need to finish landscaping the center of the highway from just east of the canal to Hampton Bays. And they need to shuffle the sand around from one beach to the other. and we need more road signs to the beach, and a handful of new traffic lights to enhance the am bottle necking. actually i think the heads of the dept just need a big fat bonus
By hokeypokey (2), Southampton on Apr 18, 11 10:27 PM
I clearly understand the timing problem. Perhaps subcontractors would expedite the timing, and lower the costs, similar to the snow plowing.
By dc54 (1), Southampton on Apr 7, 11 9:25 AM
How the heck can a resident w/ a small car expect to bring dozens of heavy wet bags to the dump??? i propose a compromise: residents will bag the leaves in town approved bags, and town will pick-up. This is more efficient and cost saving compared to huge piles of scattered leaves in the road needing a bulldozer. Neighborhoods up-island do this and it works. And bags should be sold very inexpensive as residents already pay taxes for leaf pickup.
By Non-Political (124), Hampton Bays on Apr 7, 11 11:02 AM
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just do the job and shut up...it seems theres always a short cut no money or time..as taxpayers and most of us are middle class we pay more then enough in our taxes ....
By fripp (4), hampton bays on Apr 7, 11 4:09 PM
hey gypsy222 the money is going in gregors pocket with all the other over paid offices here in h.b. it has to stop!!!!
By fripp (4), hampton bays on Apr 7, 11 4:12 PM
We sure as heck better see a credit for this on our property tax invoice. Leaf pick up was about the only useful service I was getting from this town for the outrageous amount I pay in property tax.
By SHPredatorDept (72), Southampton on Apr 7, 11 6:18 PM
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With all the things that are wrong with the town you people are worried about a pile of leaves? You make it sound like they are taking your children away. It is such a small amount of your tax dollars compared to other things. Do the math 60,000 homes 50 workers and you want the leaves picked up in a month? Get real!!!!
By GoldenBoy (350), EastEnd on Apr 7, 11 6:21 PM
Last time I knew the Town was selling a portion of the leaf debris to companies like Long Island Compost!!! Just another reminder of how the new regime is taking services away from us more and more.
By OldSalt (10), Sag Harbor on Apr 7, 11 9:58 PM
I don't have a truck to take leaves anywhere. How will it get done?
By jok (2), east quogue on Apr 8, 11 10:22 AM
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It says "next fall" there will be no leaf pick up. Is that 2011 or 2012?
When is the brush pick up?
By jok (2), east quogue on Apr 8, 11 10:45 AM
Clean your yard yourself then hire somebody to haul them away for you. It might cost you $50 at most for a big pile. Then you wont have to stare at them for 6 months. I think this is great, Gregor is finally doing whats best for the town not whats best for him. I dont want to see leaves scattered throughout the town for half the year it looks trashy. Go Gregor!!!!
By GoldenBoy (350), EastEnd on Apr 8, 11 3:21 PM
So Go Green can't have an illegal transfer station, but the Town can have five.
By shygirl2 (1), Flanders on Apr 9, 11 2:28 AM
Hey goldenboy I'll give you $50 and lunch for you to take my leaves away.
By Local dad (51), North Sea on Apr 9, 11 8:45 AM
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Which Barn in the Highway Dept do you work in GoldenBoy,you will have more time to hang out when you do not have the leaves to pick up
By Etians rd (542), Southampton on Apr 9, 11 10:08 AM
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I personally like Gregor's decision to not continue the leaf pick up program. In my neighborhood everyone stacks their crap out in the street mile high and it becomes a road hazard. The roads are narrow as it is without piles of leaves blocking them. You have to head into oncoming traffic to go around them from November until two days ago (they finally came around to collect them). When it snows the plows hit the piles and it makes a mess. People stack them at intersections so you can’t see ...more
By WM11976 (12), Water Mill on Apr 9, 11 10:11 AM
I have a question, or two.

Would composting the leaves, and selling the humus help to offset the cost of pick-up?

Can't we find some way to recycle the leaves, to a fiscal advantage?
By Mr. Z (11692), North Sea on Apr 9, 11 4:44 PM
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Dont work for the highway im just sick of looking at your leaves!!!!
By GoldenBoy (350), EastEnd on Apr 9, 11 5:13 PM
Oh and Local Dad ill take you up on that!!! Ill even take down your christmas decorations for free! If your that lazy to haul off your leaves I bet you still have a santa strapped to your chimney since december! Bad Santa!!!!
By GoldenBoy (350), EastEnd on Apr 9, 11 5:17 PM
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Another incompetent town elected official. During the snow storms, the town truck came thru spreading salt and sand, a couple hours later a private hired company plowed the snow and sand. What is the reason the town spreaders did not have a plow blade. Now it is too much trouble for him to coordinate leaf pickup. What is he doing?????
By kpjc (161), east quogue on Apr 10, 11 9:43 AM
East Hampton did not pick up leaves this year and other than a few whiners everyone took care of their own properties. You can drive around East Hampton today and not see many leaves lying around. In Southampton, where there is a program, leaves are reportedly still everywhere. That tells me that when people are made responsible for the pick up it will get done timely. When people don't have to be responsiblle they will wait for big brother to do it even if it means the leaves sit there for ...more
By hohum123 (91), springs on Apr 10, 11 10:16 AM
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According to the East Hampton Highway Supervisor, Mr. King, the cost of leaf pick up only was about $183,000. The $500,000.00 is the cost,I believe, for the whole highway department. Using the first number the cost of the leaf pickup program was about $15.00 to 30.00 per household I believe (depending on the number of households in East Hampton). If these numbers are correct and similar for Southampton, residents will be hard-pressed to find any carter to remove their leaves from the front of their ...more
By V.Tomanoku (788), southampton on Apr 10, 11 12:13 PM
Why was Matterson able to do it? It seems that leaf pickup and plowing were done much better when Bill was in charge. I also blame the Landscape companies that dump the leaves in the streets, not on the edge of the property. If a homeowner is paying for cleanup, then the lc company should take the debris away. I guess I'm buying a leaf shredder soon...
By baywave (22), Westhampton Beach on Apr 11, 11 9:00 AM
The leaf program never worked, especially under Masterson, because you always have those few idiots who can't follow instructions. Like those who haul their leaves to the street AFTER the Town comes through. Or those who drop them into the road, not the shoulder, so when it rains, they all flow into the catch basins causing flooding problems. Or (like my neighbor) use the program to cut down all the trees on their lot. Our seniors should not be ignored & the Town can easily map where those folks ...more
By Ms. Jane Q. Public (147), Southampton on Apr 13, 11 9:12 AM
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Amazing that people are bitching about this service being cut. Hello, they are picking up the leaves that fell out of YOUR trees in YOUR yard. In my book that would make them YOUR responsibility. If you cut down these trees it would be YOUR responsibility to take care of the waste. When you cut YOUR grass it's YOUR job to deal with the clippings. Where the idea that we are entitled to have the town pick up the leaves that fall in our own back yards is beyond me. Having piles of leaves all over ...more
By HBresident007 (14), Hampton Bays on Apr 13, 11 7:11 PM
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The idea is that the Town has always picked up the leaves and this service is incorporated in the tax bill they send us. Leaf pick up has, I presume, also represented a portion of the department's budget. Now they want to do away with the service, and keep the money, and expect the taxpayers to pay for private carting. That is called a tax increase that to some further squeezes their finances. There has been little dialogue and search for other solutions to the issue and no data presented on this ...more
By V.Tomanoku (788), southampton on Apr 14, 11 9:31 AM
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The reason people are upset about this is because there aren't good alternatives to getting rid of your leaves. Since we can't burn them like in the old days - the only way of disposing of them is hiring someone to pick them up or taking them to the dump yourself which is not in easy task for those without a truck.

In other towns (Brookhaven for example) the leaves are picked up by the Town (or whoever it is they contract out). It's common place in every munincipality that the leaf ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Apr 14, 11 10:24 AM
"...the only way of disposing of them is hiring someone to pick them up or taking them to the dump yourself which is not in easy task for those without a truck."


Wrong, wrong, wrong...and with a name like "Nature" you should know better. Leaves can be mulched right back into the lawn as easily as mowing or they can be put in a mulch pile on the property. No special machinery, no truck, no bags, no problem.

By VOS (1230), WHB on Apr 14, 11 11:45 AM
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Ok, so you can mulch your leaves. . . I think we can both agree that it's not something the majority of residents want to do and it can be a pretty big pain depending on the number of trees and when they drop their leaves.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Apr 17, 11 3:36 PM
...."Cut the program Mr. Gregor and take some of the money and fix the pot holes around the town and take the rest and put it towards lowering out taxes."

You are unforgivably naive to believe that this would ever happen. I say the town should pick up everyone's leaves but yours. Does this work for you?
By elliot (254), sag harbor on Apr 17, 11 9:50 PM
give me a break...I am a 60 plus woman who cleans up the leaves that BLOW from other people's properties. I have a total of FOUR trees on my property that do not drop the amount of leaves that accumulate and I put out to be picked up. Many of us are on fixed incomes and depend on the town's assistance in helping us with removal. Possibly if EVERYONE bag their leaves it could be done quicker and more efficient. Other towns have done to brown bags which would be enivironmental friendly. Not sure ...more
By Irish114 (4), Hampton Bays on Apr 25, 11 8:38 PM
007 and Jane Q are right on. The leaf program was started years ago as a courtesy to the residents out here. When there was twice the staff and a third of the homes. Concentrate on HIGHWAY work, fixing roads, tirimming trees, replacing damaged road signs, cutting grass ect.....and plowing snow w/o leaves in the way and spreading them all over my driveway!!!
By GoldenBoy (350), EastEnd on Apr 13, 11 9:46 PM
I would disagree that this program is a courtesy to the residents. The taxpayers have always been taxed for this as part of their highway taxes. As the number of homes has increased so should the corresponding tax levy have increased as well to accommodate staff expansion and maintainance of the service. If that was not done that was a town management error and not a reason to now penalize the taxpayer.
By V.Tomanoku (788), southampton on Apr 14, 11 9:38 AM
As of today, April 14, 2011, the leaves are still on our street in Hampton Bays, Between Springville Road and Ponquogue Road. When are they going to be picked up?? If you want to stop a procedure, do it with enough notice and after you have completed the job since people are confused as to what is going on? You cannot pick up leaves in some neighborhoods and leave others alone. This is so typical of small town governments.
By Bridget325 (27), Hampton Bays on Apr 14, 11 12:11 PM
V. Tomanoku you are spot on. X is what highway recieves in funding and y is what you get for it. Highway budget has not grown properly with the town and highways budget is micro managed by the Town Board. Highway could pick up all your leaves and mow your lawn but then there is no money left for road repair. There are only so many dollars. So what does everyone want done?. Pick up my leaves, but leave the potholes? or fill the potholes and forget the leaves? The third glaring option is to properly ...more
By North Sea Citizen (564), North Sea on Apr 14, 11 3:19 PM
what exactly will the highway staff do with their free time now? 100% of all road paving is done by outside contractors. 90% of pothole patching and fill is done by outside contractors. so what exactly is not getting done???? All major improvements are done by contractors and engineers, there are no engineers in the highway department nor do they have equipment to pave roads, so what will they be doing now??
By ridiculous (214), hampton bays on Apr 14, 11 9:49 PM
Thank you for raising this point. Its not just a matter of what do they do the rest of the time, but where is all this money going and why, and is it because all of these outside contractors have to be payed that now there is no money for leaf pick up. Town residents pay taxes, contractors make political contributions?
By V.Tomanoku (788), southampton on Apr 15, 11 3:02 PM
Actually since this will not be done anymore I expect to see his budget decreased by the amount of money this program cost!
By ridiculous (214), hampton bays on Apr 14, 11 9:43 PM
An earlier version of the article stated that there are 60,000 homes in Southampton Town. Figures from Tax Reciever Theresa Kiernan indicate that there are about 50,000 parcels of land in town, but some of those parcels are vacant, so there are about 40,000 homes that require leaf pickup.
By Bill Sutton, Managing Editor (116), Westhampton Beach on Apr 15, 11 10:09 AM
Is it possible to obtain the cost of leaf pick up to the town and the per
household cost of leaf pick up? Does Alex Gregor know these numbers do you know? Thank you.
By V.Tomanoku (788), southampton on Apr 16, 11 8:23 AM
I care not for the convoluted details of the town's political and fiscal woes.
We pay enough taxes already!!! Cripes!!!!!

We have no street lights, no trash pick up, no sewerage system, no sidewalks and no paid Fire Dept ( these heroes risk their lives DAILY as volunteers!),. WHat the heck are our taxes being used for by SH Town? More expensive "studies"

We simply want our leaves picked up.

By elliot (254), sag harbor on Apr 15, 11 12:01 PM
"You can't always get what you want." - Sir Michael Phillip Jagger, 1969
By VOS (1230), WHB on Apr 15, 11 1:29 PM
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Ever watch the leaf removal crew: 1 in the truck, 1 on the tractor and 4 standing around smoking or making cell phone calls. Lets hope the next Hwy Supe will solve the problem - Alex just doesn't get it.
By hamptonsnrcit (47), sag harbor on Apr 15, 11 6:06 PM
Still waitingfor a leaf clean up on one side of my street in North Sea! A phone call to the Highway Department elicitted this respnse, " They were there on February 15, the spring cleanup starts in 2 weeks. Why was a literally half assed job done? Who was the supervisor in charge of North Sea on Feb 15? While I understand we had a hard winter, doing one side of the street and not the other reflects a lack of quality control.
By bigfresh (4594), north sea on Apr 16, 11 9:30 AM
This new plan will cost the average homeowner a minimum of $500.
Anybody that thinks that it will cost $50 to have a commercial biz rake and remove leaves to the dump is in for a rude awakening. It takes me about 8-10 hours of raking over the course of 2-3 different days, and it will maybe be another 4-5 hours of bagging and moving them to the truck and dump. Thats 12-15 man hours. Contractors get $40-50-60 per hour.
And raking is not all done in 1 day; twice a season to do it right.
By Non-Political (124), Hampton Bays on Apr 16, 11 1:18 PM
Everyone wants their leaves picked up, yet nobody has yet to justify why the town should pick up the leaves that fall in your back yard?
By HBresident007 (14), Hampton Bays on Apr 16, 11 4:44 PM
(slaps head) "Duh..... Because we pay rediculously high taxes!!!!"

Best to leave this situation to the taxpaying homeowner/adults- a group to which you obviously do not belong.
By elliot (254), sag harbor on Apr 17, 11 10:00 PM
We would all be better off with smaller lawns and more natural woods and native plants. Imagine, 500 years ago the leaves just fell and everything lived happily ever after. Our obsession with manicured lawns brings on the leaf problem to start with. Not to mention the damage to watershed and natural systems we do with the pesticides and herbicides it takes to grow grass in this ecosystem. The history of the "lawn" goes back to a class system long ago in Europe. People with money had animals, ...more
By Cairnterriot (8), southampton on Apr 16, 11 9:16 PM
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Non-political do what you normally do. Rake the pile to the curb and call a contractor to pick it up. You dont have to pay then to do a complete pick up. They will charge you depending on the amount you have. Its pretty simple.
By GoldenBoy (350), EastEnd on Apr 17, 11 9:26 AM
hamptonsnrcit. I see the crews working pretty hard, but theres is some time wasted thats driving back to the barn to and fro for lunch. two-three trucks in fuel plus their time. I dont know what their contract states travel time for lunch unless its there own time. but 10 to 12 there down the road and return 12:45ish. Looks like lunch is half hour. So it seems like 10 going 15 back or 25 minutes x 5 people per day must add up x 5-6 crews plus the trucks charge per hour. LIPA, Verizon, Cablevision ...more
By North Sea Citizen (564), North Sea on Apr 18, 11 6:48 AM
The town was in front of my house at 9am on Sat morning! Imagine Sat morning! Someone has gotten a spanking in Town Hall! Now they get overtime!
By squeaky (291), hampton bays on Apr 18, 11 4:59 PM
Town Highway workers that work on Saturday are not neccissarly on OT - and almost certainly are not on OT. Highway workers don't have the same 8:30-5 Mon-Fri schedule the rest of the Town employees have which of course makes sense. Take a deep breath and be happy your leaves are gone
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Apr 19, 11 9:19 AM
Deep breath taken....now take that chill pill! Gotta be nasty EVERY post?Sorry didnt know we had an expert in the mix.
By squeaky (291), hampton bays on Apr 19, 11 3:43 PM
There was nothing "nasty" about that comment - I simply encouraged you to calm down and pointed out the fact that they were not getting OT. You squeaky, were the one who requested a "spanking" be delivered.

It's ok that you didn't know we had an expert. . .not everyone is aware of my accuracy when it comes to local government affairs. The whole reason I signed up for this silly site is because I wanted to be able to offer the truth and knowledge to people who were unaware (through no ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Apr 20, 11 9:12 AM
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It was a simple joke .....thank the Lord you are here.ugh Sorry about not even noticing how many people are happy for your existance here. Not really caring but ok.
By squeaky (291), hampton bays on Apr 22, 11 3:03 PM
We need to get competitive and cut gov't jobs. We need to get lean and leaf pick up is just a small part of non-important work that home owners will need to deal with. So be it. Now, lets cut, slash and hack the budgets of the Hwy. Dept., school system, etc.. A great deal of gov't is a waste - lets intergrate township departments to reduce overhead and cost. Perhaps privitizing the many of the functions such as Dept of Hwy., Post Office, etc. will need to be done.

Time to cut taxes !

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By GerryBayz (13), Hampton Bays on Apr 19, 11 7:58 PM
Nature you are spreading misinformation yourself that you say you are here to fight. Highway Dept. workers are scheduled Monday to Friday 6:30 am to 3:00 pm with a half hour lunch. Saturday is all overtime. That is for the whole dept.
By Local dad (51), North Sea on Apr 22, 11 5:02 PM
So lets say I own a few acres of wooded undeveloped land in SH Town and lets say I want to rake all of the leaves up and pile them at roadside for the town to pick up, should I be allowed to do this, I mean i DO pay "rediculous" taxes on my land?

FYI- I pay about $9200 a year for .28 acres with a 4br/2.5 bath house in HB. ANYTHING to cut my taxes would be appreciated, but then again I don't feel as "entitled" as the rest of you. I imagine you are the ones who get pulled over by the police ...more
By HBresident007 (14), Hampton Bays on Apr 22, 11 6:04 PM
$9200 tax bill for a 1/4 acre???

And yet you still feel it's fair that you should pay for your own leaf pick up?

You poor deluded sap! LOL.
By elliot (254), sag harbor on Apr 23, 11 10:03 PM
Deluded are the people that demand such non-essential services and collectively these services add up. Sure I can "demand" them, but in reality I'd rather just not pay for them nor pay for your leaves and everyone else's to be picked up.

This year I put no leaves out, the very few I had went into the mulch/compost pile I made.

Leaf pick up or better roads and proper plowing, you decide, only one has the potential to kill you.
By HBresident007 (14), Hampton Bays on Apr 24, 11 7:31 AM
HB res you must live on the water or something b/c $9200 sounds like a lot buddy, even for HB
By GoldenBoy (350), EastEnd on Apr 23, 11 10:17 AM
Nope GB, I wish, over $7K goes towards the schools here. I could move in the village proper in SH and pay less...LOL
By HBresident007 (14), Hampton Bays on Apr 23, 11 5:13 PM
Everything has become out of hand with the leaves. If people rake their own leaves, then put them in small enough bags to take them where they will eventually have to go. That solves that problem. For those who have landscapers doing it, it will now be part of their service to NOT let the leaves pile up on front of property. I still cannot figure how the Town of Southampton came up with 77 years of age as being eligible to have their leaves pcked up?
Can someone please explain??
By Bridget325 (27), Hampton Bays on Apr 23, 11 9:42 PM
This will be a good thing. Now we can all give work to the day laborers down at 7-11. Just swing by, pick up a guy and he can take the leaves to the dump in your car. Hey, they gotta eat too!
By johnnyhampton (82), Southampton on Apr 23, 11 10:21 PM
In addition, this is the second home that I have owned in Town of Southampton. My first property did not have trees that resulted in leaves.
Now, I am surrounded by trees which are bountiful in the leaves that are created by them.

It just struck me that this Leave program has been discriminating against the owners of treeless properties?? After all, I do not believe our taxes are levied against how many leaves we are producing or not!
By Bridget325 (27), Hampton Bays on Apr 23, 11 10:22 PM
You've got me thinking, maybe the town could just tack on a bill for property owners who need the pick up and the treeless ones don't pay for the beautification of their neighbors yards.

When my once dirt road was paved, it was added to my tax bill for a certain number of years, when streelights were installed my tax bill went up.

I wonder just how much people would be willing to pay on an individual basis for their "entitlement"?
By HBresident007 (14), Hampton Bays on Apr 24, 11 7:35 AM
Hey everybody....let's not forget those leaves just dropped on the sides of the road by "who knows". Should the town pick those up as well?
Gregor is making tough calls....and will be criticized no matter what he does.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Apr 24, 11 10:00 AM
As long as the town doesn't put anything into to law that I have to rake, Im good. But thats next....
By squeaky (291), hampton bays on Apr 25, 11 6:38 AM
I still say there has to be a way to make some money from the humus all the leaves could create.
By Mr. Z (11692), North Sea on Apr 25, 11 4:09 PM
We thought the "compromise" had already been reached - just leaves no brush - that works fine - do we really want to become East Hampton and leave seniors and people who can't afford paying for private leaf pick-up services to try to round up school children to do it for them? My friends in Amagansett nearly killed themselves getting this done and they have a truck! I have a station wagon that can at most fit 6 bags of brush - it might take me 100 trips to the dump to get rid of my leaves - who's ...more
By scrimshaw (1), Southampton on May 12, 11 10:54 PM
How about hiring the illeagl, they will do it for min. wage.
By boggy529 (2), Sag Harbor on Oct 10, 11 12:10 PM