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Dec 31, 2018 5:01 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Wainscott CAC Says It Is Against Wind Farm Cable Coming To Beach Lane

Dec 31, 2018 5:15 PM

The Wainscott Citizens Advisory Committee penned a letter to the East Hampton Town Board late last week taking an official position against the town’s plans to give an easement to Ørsted US Offshore Wind, formerly Deepwater Wind, to run a power cable beneath town roads between Beach Lane and the PSEG Long Island substation in Cove Hollow.

The committee urged the Town Board not to grant the easements and to push Ørsted to bring the South Fork Wind Farm power cable ashore through a state park in Napeague, rather than in Wainscott.

In the letter, the advisory committee’s co-chairs, Barry Frankel and Susan Macy, told the Town Board that some committee members and Wainscott residents have raised “grave concerns” about details of the project that were revealed since the state and federal applications for the South Fork Wind Farm were filed in the fall.

Foremost among their concerns were that the wind farm is now slated to pump as much as 130 megawatts of electricity through the cable, not the 90 megawatts originally publicized, and that the applications show the underground cable vaults that would be buried beneath Beach Lane to be larger than residents perceived them to be during public presentations by Deepwater Wind staff over the last two years.

The committee also raised concerns that, once built, the proposed Beach Lane landing site would be used for landing power cables from other future wind farms constructed in the region.

“As a town-appointed body representing the people of Wainscott, the WCAC requests that the town not grant an easement to Deepwater Wind to come ashore at Beach Lane,” Mr. Frankel and Ms. Macy wrote. “Denial of the developer’s request for an easement at Beach Lane does not prevent East Hampton from adding wind power to its sources of alternative energy, since Hither Hills State Park has been identified as a viable alternative landing site. However, this denial will save the larger Wainscott community from environmental disturbances and disruptions.”

In July, the Town Board voted, 3-2, to “memorialize” its intention to negotiate a lease with Deepwater Wind—which was purchased by Danish energy giant Ørsted in November—for the easements, in exchange for some $8 million in pledged financial support of various infrastructure improvements and fisheries-related programs. The East Hampton Town Trustees are also in negotiations with the company for permission to run the cable beneath the Trustees-owned beachhead.

Supervisor Peter Van Scoyoc said that the town had received the letter but that he had not yet seen it.

The letter to the board says that the position of opposition is held by a “large majority” of the committee, but that there is some dissent from the membership.

One of the dissenters is Frank Dalene, who serves on the town’s Energy Sustainabilty Committee. Mr. Dalene said that a small group of residents not on the committee have used “misinformation and conspiracy theories” to whip up opposition among the committee members to something that should be embraced.

“The arguments they make are baseless,” Mr. Dalene said. “It is just NIMBY-ism. They are not taking anything into consideration other than ‘No, we don’t want it.’”

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Liberal tree huggers into it's in their backyard
By chief1 (2783), southampton on Jan 1, 19 9:41 PM
Neither of us have all the facts, obviously, but I tend to agree with your observation.



By Frank Wheeler (1823), Northampton on Jan 1, 19 11:48 PM
NIMBYism. All these leftist tree huggers scream about green energy and sustainable resources but Hell No if it might inconvenience a bunch of rich white liberals. Where the hell do this dullards think this infrastructure is supposed to go? Float in the sky, held up by rainbows and unicorn farts.
By Preliator Lives (431), Obamavillie on Jan 2, 19 6:57 AM
“Grave concerns”. These people should have things to really worry about like the rest of us
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Jan 2, 19 7:28 AM
Sure. Why use a public thoroughfare, when there's protected parkland to despoil.
By Mr. Z (11647), North Sea on Jan 2, 19 7:45 AM
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Who says they are liberals? Sounds to me like Republican Party donors.
By tenn tom (255), remsenburg on Jan 2, 19 8:29 AM
“Denial of the developer’s request for an easement at Beach Lane does not prevent East Hampton from adding wind power to its sources of alternative energy, since Hither Hills State Park has been identified as a viable alternative landing site. However, this denial will save the larger Wainscott community from environmental disturbances and disruptions.”

What a load of BS..."save the larger Wainscott community from environmental disturbances and disruptions"?!?!

How ...more
By Enviro Guy (46), Southampton on Jan 2, 19 8:46 AM
“As a town-appointed body representing the people of Wainscott, the WCAC requests that the town not grant an easement to Deepwater Wind to come ashore at Beach Lane,” Mr. Frankel and Ms. Macy wrote. The WCAC is totally out of control . They do not "represent the people of Wainscott". Time to shut these self interested weekenders down.
By Colt (36), Wainscott on Jan 2, 19 9:24 AM
Landing in Hither Hills is a shorter route thru sensitive areas. Right to the sub station in Hither Hills.
Where in Wainscott will they connect to a sub station??? Smoke being blown up the road...
By knitter (1893), Southampton on Jan 2, 19 9:32 AM
Cove Hollow Road by the train tracks is the nearest substation. Multiple paths to reach it, including the train tracks and Montauk Hwy via Wainscott Stone Road.

Is the system capable of operating bidirectionally? Or would that be an additional investment to get generated power from Montauk back to East Hampton?
By Mr. Z (11647), North Sea on Jan 2, 19 10:34 PM
Landing in Hither Hills is a shorter route thru sensitive areas. Right to the sub station in Hither Hills.
Where in Wainscott will they connect to a sub station??? Smoke being blown up the road...
By knitter (1893), Southampton on Jan 2, 19 9:34 AM
the needs of the many outweigh the concerns of a few
By BrianWilliams (87), on Jan 2, 19 11:41 AM
There is no shortage of defunct wind turbines littering the coasts of Southern CA and Texas. They just sit there, eroding into the water as very expensive monuments to doe-eyed environmentalists.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Jan 2, 19 12:17 PM
Slime, as opposed to the many oil derricks littering the land and seascape?i like the doe-eyed environmentalists comment, shows how out of touch with reality you are.
By Fred s (3167), Southampton on Jan 2, 19 12:39 PM
Exactly. No different than an old defunct oil derrick. Neither were smart.
By even flow (983), East Hampton on Jan 2, 19 12:46 PM
Not exactly, oil pollution is a slight bit worse then a wind turbine. Apples and oranges.
By Fred s (3167), Southampton on Jan 2, 19 12:54 PM
@ Slime Alive -- Precisely where are these defunct wind turbines littering the coasts of Texas and CA and how many are there?

Andrew Walden's claim that there are 14,000 abandoned wind turbines is bunk nonsense. Currently, in the US, according to "www.energy.gov" about 0.1% of wind generation capacity is permanently inactive, these are old turbines that are being replaced with newer technology.
Fossil fuels smell bad when they are burned and caused approximately 6.5 million premature ...more
By Aeshtron (407), Southampton on Jan 2, 19 12:47 PM
"Virtually no one wants industrial infrastructure near their home and neither do I..."

Then why are you living in a modern industrialized Western country?
By Preliator Lives (431), Obamavillie on Jan 2, 19 1:21 PM
Anyone aware of the environmental issues that have plagued Wainscott now and over the decades? Incidentally, some of the families of those "weekenders" go back to the 1600's in Wainscott. They care enough about the hamlet to continue to return even though their wells were contaminated, the beach eroded and the waters polluted....go figure!
By PIM (1), Wainscott on Jan 4, 19 10:25 AM
I've said this before. But it's still just as true. These turbines, allegedly to power 50,000 homes - I'll believe that when I see it - are the tip of the iceberg. We will need how many of them? Hundreds? Thousands? Tens of thousands? This is the proverbial camel's nose in the tent. Let's remember what Ørsted is is business to do: BUILD THESE TURBINES. They make lots of money building ans maintaining them. The more turbines, the merrier. The only "green" this company is interested ...more
By Liman (30), Montauk on Jan 4, 19 4:02 PM
The wind "farm" in general is a very bad idea.
By clamdigger (82), Quogue on Jan 4, 19 5:14 PM
HOME RULE!!!!
By bigfresh (4590), north sea on Jan 4, 19 9:17 PM
BAIT & SWITCH:

Why do they (now) need to ask for an easement?

What was in the request for a conduit in the first application?

How big were there vaults in that application?

If anything has changed - they need to go back to square one and start from there.

Another bunch of phonies killing us inch by inch.
By FiddlerCrab (96), Westhampton Beach on Jan 4, 19 9:58 PM
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