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Jun 8, 2018 3:06 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Westhampton Beach Village Residents Concerned About Ice Cream Truck Approval

Jun 12, 2018 1:29 PM

Some Westhampton Beach residents are taking issue with the Village Board’s approval of a vehicle peddling permit for a Mister Softee ice cream truck, citing a growing concern that the truck will take business away from ice cream parlors on Main Street.

Livaydin Ilyas, a resident of North Babylon who owns Mister Softee’s Eastern Long Island trucks, applied for the permit, which allows his employees to sell ice cream on residential streets within the village from June 8 through December 31, and was given approval by the board on Thursday, June 7.

According to Village Mayor Maria Moore, the ice cream truck is not permitted on Main Street or at Rogers Beach. But Bob Trager, a Westhampton Beach resident, said he has seen the truck at the end of Main Street and parked behind the library.

Mr. Ilyas could not immediately be reached for comment.

Chief of Police Trevor Gonce, who investigated Mr. Ilyas and performed a background check on him, urged residents to call the Village Police if they see any ice cream trucks selling products in the restricted areas.

“We can’t stop every ice cream truck that’s driving through the village, because they have a right to drive through here. If they’re stopping and selling, that’s another issue,” Chief Gonce said. “The call to us will at least generate an investigation or kick them out of the area.”

Sabina Trager, Mr. Trager’s wife, said she recently spotted the truck in her neighborhood on three separate weekday mornings, between 10 and 10:30 a.m., in one week. After feeling “a bit uneasy” after the first two sightings—as the truck was driving unusually slowly at a time when school was in session and there were no children in the area—Ms. Trager called the police.

“Better safe than sorry … For me, I felt, like, ‘Is he casing the neighborhood?’” said Ms. Trager, who has lived in the village full time for the past 17 years. “If I saw the ice cream truck three times on Saturday or Sunday, or three times on weekdays in July and August in short succession, that would have appeared completely normal to me … but the puzzle pieces I witnessed—in late May, early June, weekday mornings—didn’t fit.”

Phil Grossman, vice president of the Greater Westhampton Chamber of Commerce, agreed with the Tragers: “It’s true. We’ve seen them all around. We’re trying to boost business, you know. It’s something to consider.”

Members of the board said they would take the concerns into consideration when authorizing future vehicle peddling permits.

“That’s an issue that we’ll have to bring up to go further,” Village Trustee Steve Frano said. “We can’t do anything about this one right now, but we should.”

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Something fun for children?? Not on this island!
By Mouthampton (400), Southampton on Jun 8, 18 5:15 PM
WoW called the cop on a Mr.Softee truck. You should be ashamed of yourself... let the police handle real emergencies!!!!
By Tomjulie (42), Hampton Bays on Jun 8, 18 5:24 PM
First, Tomjulie, when I see an ice cream on 3 weekday mornings within a short timeframe, between 10-10:30 am when I am out walking my dog, while school is in session, when there are no young children (basically no children actually, except for a few college kids [one mine] and my soon to be HS senior) who live in my immediate neighborhood at all and when, on the third sighting I notice that it takes him approximately 8 minutes to go around my 1 1/4 mile block and I feel a bit uncomfortable as a ...more
By st (104), westhampton beach on Jun 8, 18 8:10 PM
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This story has it all!
- outsiders coming to take our business
- using the police to enforce social norms
- quelling competition through regulation
- baseless suspicion
Amazing how this all came together!
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (540), southampton on Jun 9, 18 7:16 AM
What a strange thing to be afraid of.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3538), HAMPTON BAYS on Jun 9, 18 7:46 AM
I am an adult who is not ashamed to admit that I would buy a Mister Softee vanilla shake at 10:30.
By cmac (141), East Quogue on Jun 9, 18 8:14 AM
I'm not a child and I love Mr. Softee and it is cheaper than the treats on Main Street. I live 2 1/2 miles from my village's Main Street and I'm glad the ice scream truck comes through our local streets and often more than once a day. Sometimes.even too fast for.me to get up from what I'm doing and get my wallet and run to the street. Why can't he compete in the areas where the shops and concession stands are? Ice cream truck = same neighborhood more than once a week and very slow driving. Ice cream=not ...more
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Jun 9, 18 4:49 PM
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By hojo (6), Speonk on Jun 12, 18 10:37 AM
You waste our tax dollars by calling the local [police for an ice-cream truck ? they're learning the route. Competition is good for merchants. Local residents don't have a options .
By 1percent (48), Quogue on Jun 13, 18 7:33 AM
Wonder what main st charges vs mr softee
By Obserever (34), Southnampton on Jun 8, 18 6:20 PM
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By st (104), westhampton beach on Jun 8, 18 8:17 PM
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Really Mr Softee is a competition?
By chief1 (2498), southampton on Jun 8, 18 8:47 PM
The article cites one couple who are complaining. Does this represent a consensus that merits an article like this? We have ice cream vendors here in Southampton Village, and no one notices.
By gusef (32), Southampton on Jun 9, 18 6:21 AM
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By gusef (32), Southampton on Jun 9, 18 6:23 AM
Let's have a rally in front of Village Hall to save Mr. Softee. He is an American institution. If people are so afraid, they should stay inside and lock their doors.
By tenn tom (197), remsenburg on Jun 9, 18 7:37 AM
Afraid of Mr. Softee. I've heard it all. I would only get annoyed maybe because of the music but once a day is not bad. A soft serve on a hot day or after dinner? And it comes to you. It's classic American. It's like $5 for one scoop on Main Street.
By lirider (226), Hampton Bays on Jun 9, 18 8:06 AM
Someone please get a grip on yourselves, It's an Ice Cream truck, REALLY? Go buy an ice cream from the man, the stuff on Main Street is too expensive anyway, Leave Mr. Softee alone, what ever happened to the kids running out to stop the Ice Cream Man? It's part of the tradition around here, always has been ans always will be.....GET A GRIP PEOPLE
By cra1961 (3), Eastport on Jun 9, 18 9:32 AM
Hey ST. I know you live in a nice safe neighborhood. The WHPD are Not Your Private Police Force!!! I get the feeling you have more in this then meets the eye... didn’t know that there had to people out and about for the Truck to go down the block looking for customers. If the truck is in a restricted area then be my guess call the local authorities. Til then stop wasting OUR TAX Dollars on your non emergency calls. Do you get traumatized every time your hear the Mr. softee jingle? Ice Cream ...more
By Tomjulie (42), Hampton Bays on Jun 9, 18 2:11 PM
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Hey anonymous Tom or Julie. Get your facts straight. Not one of your Hampton Bays pennies pays for our PRIVATE Westhampton BEACH police force. We receive a SEPARATE Westhampton BEACH annual tax bill, part of which pays for our PRIVATE police force. Another fact: we do not own any business at all, not on Main Street, not anywhere, so I'm not sure what doesn't meet your keen eye.
By st (104), westhampton beach on Jun 9, 18 3:35 PM
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Hey TomJulie, hiding behind your anonymous name. Im sure if god-forbid something happened to you and a bystander didn't report it you would be the first ones crying!!! Also refer back to your Dec 2nd posting- Quogue Police Force Investigates Rash of Break-ins targeting landscapers. Does "hypocrite" ring a bell!! It takes a community and as a son or a former Federal Law Enforcement officer- If you see something say something!! What FRAUDS!
By Bobt (33), WHB on Jun 9, 18 5:13 PM
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I don’t see how it’s your tax dollars when you live in HB? And if I was a shop owner I would be upset. There’s enough competition as it is. The reason prices are expensive is because the rent is pricey in main st. A lot pricier than an ice cream truck.
By GoldenBoy (331), EastEnd on Jun 9, 18 2:50 PM
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Ah so wouldn't the better thing to be concerned is the stranglehold some landlords have on merchants needing a storefront? I'm more concerned about after season ghost towns with empty storefronts or stores with prices too high because there is no regulation on landlords.
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Jun 9, 18 4:56 PM
regulations on landlords? Please elaborate.
By bigfresh (3614), north sea on Jun 9, 18 5:02 PM
LOL you cowardly commenters that hide behind your screen names are brutal! What a rip! I’m so happy I’m not your wife and don’t share a daughter, and that I’m not friends with you, Patti S. I guess none of you ever practiced anything like—“trust your gut”; “better safe than sorry”; “if you see something that doesn’t look or feel quite right speak up, what have you got to lose?”

I placed a phone call to my private ...more
By st (104), westhampton beach on Jun 9, 18 3:48 PM
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Thank you. I will. With a double cone from Me. Softee.
By Tomjulie (42), Hampton Bays on Jun 9, 18 4:29 PM
"Private police force"? Such a pompous attitude from a Worsthampton Beach resident.
By bigfresh (3614), north sea on Jun 9, 18 4:47 PM
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Good Humor is the way to go!
By icecreamman (380), Southampton on Jun 10, 18 6:56 AM
Let me guess. The driver of the ice cream truck is ...um...more chocolate than vanilla...so he’s probably more than an ice cream man. Is that the thought process here ?
By SlimeAlive (910), Southampton on Jun 10, 18 7:17 AM
I heard that after this Mr softee left his last route the town went into financial ruin and he loaded his truck with landscaping equipment and lawn decor on the way out
By blahblahblah (7), Westhampton on Jun 10, 18 7:18 AM
This is priceless! #2 on The Most Commented List! I’m checking the many new comments for some morning laughs and let me further educate the commenters who won’t take my female word that I felt uncomfortable and thought, perhaps, that something was amiss.

Let me further paint the picture for you: On my 1 1/4 mile around block, of approximately 50 homes, there are 5 homes occupied full-time, with the one non-adult in all those full-time homes being 17 years old. One additional ...more
By st (104), westhampton beach on Jun 10, 18 7:36 AM
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By SlimeAlive (910), Southampton on Jun 10, 18 8:18 AM
How is Mister Softee supposed to know the demographics of your area? Perhaps he was "casing the neighborhood" for that information.
By cmac (141), East Quogue on Jun 10, 18 2:19 PM
No one should be criticized for calling the police if they have concerns for their own safety or that of the community. Better safe than sorry. Also, I understand why our local ice cream merchants are upset about the Mr. Softee permit, and believe me that the Board of Trustees does not want to do anything to hurt our local businesses, but it would be illegal for us to prevent Mr. Softee from selling in the Village, and what we can do is regulate for public safety which we've done by requiring fingerprinting, ...more
By Mayor Moore (7), Westhampton Beach on Jun 10, 18 2:49 PM
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Question for you Mrs. Moore. Was this put out to bid for everyone with an ice cream truck to have an opportunity to bid on?
By icecreamman (380), Southampton on Jun 10, 18 2:58 PM
Wow someone even created a fake mayor account for the comments section! This is the best thread ever.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (540), southampton on Jun 10, 18 6:53 PM
Let us not forget all the tradesman who could be working in your neighborhood as potential consumers. I would imagine a Mr Softee being very appealing to a landscaper toiling under the hot sun.
By Duckbornandraised (180), Eastport on Jun 10, 18 6:57 PM
Its way cheaper to make your own banana ice cream at home, you meatheads you.
By pw herman (1045), southampton on Jun 10, 18 7:05 PM
I called the cops after I got a cone
By blahblahblah (7), Westhampton on Jun 10, 18 7:40 PM
Maybe Ms. Trager is lactose intolerant and that made her uncomfortable...
By Hambone (501), New York on Jun 10, 18 8:51 PM
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WHB has reached the level of complete ridiculousness: world's largest firehouse, best staffed library, a crack police force covering 2 square miles and some 1700 people in the off season.
By Hambone (501), New York on Jun 10, 18 8:53 PM
Hambone, you have a lot to say and I know its easy for you and so many others to hide behind your anonymous names. Its safe and its easy to hurl personal attacks that way. You have a choice of moving out of the Village if you dislike it so much or speaking up and bringing value. Myself and my wife like having a home in the Village and we speak up publically and in the newspapers to bring our voice and opinions to the forefront. We are not afraid of any backlash, negative posts, personal attacks, ...more
By Bobt (33), WHB on Jun 11, 18 8:13 AM
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By toes in the water (658), southampton on Jun 11, 18 7:34 AM
:Toes in the water- you should reflect back on your 2/9/17 and 8/10/17 comments. Summers here- get outside and enjoy the weather. I sit to the right of the lifeguard stand. Come by and say hello!!
By Bobt (33), WHB on Jun 11, 18 8:46 AM
Can we get a comment from Mr. Smoothie on whether he was casing the neighborhood or not? I'd like to hear from the other side of this story.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (540), southampton on Jun 11, 18 11:29 AM
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Can I get Uber Eats to deliver Mr. Softee to me?
By Pacman (159), Southampton on Jun 11, 18 12:01 PM
So apparently, calling the police to go after an Ice Cream Truck is a new thing, cause when I was a kid, we chased on foot! LOL :)
By LovedHerTown (125), southampton on Jun 11, 18 1:59 PM
Westhampton ICE CREAM TRUCK WATCH> Scary situation that a ice cream truck might actually serve cheaper ice-cream to its residents , Locals don't shop mainstreat only tourists . So to hurt locals you are afraid of an ice cream truck providing fun to locals and tourist will hurt your business on mainstreet You only really have Realestate businesses on mainstreet, Westhampton has systematically eliminated any chance of any business surviving there. Now I know why Ice shops like every other town provides ...more
By 1percent (48), Quogue on Jun 13, 18 7:29 AM
Ice Cream in WHB has always been a HOT topic ,
Shock Ice Cream Cone drama lasted 5 years in court with the village spending 25,000 to fight a 6 ft Ice Cream Cone Sculpture
Let’s lighten up , Ice Crram Trucks are a Part of Americana , every kid I'm sure has experienced running after the ice cream truck , the village imposed rules for safety measures as to not allow the truck to stop around Main St and not stop at The Village Beach ( I guess they don’t want the competition either ...more
By Shock (40), on Jun 13, 18 8:58 PM
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By hojo (6), Speonk on Jun 14, 18 1:57 PM
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By hojo (6), Speonk on Jun 14, 18 1:57 PM
No decent human being ever set out to drive a beater filled with outdated ice cream to sell to little kids.
By SlimeAlive (910), Southampton on Jun 21, 18 12:08 PM
st had every right to call the police when she felt necessary, whether it be her 'private PD' or not. Just because the dude is driving a Mr. Softee truck doesn't mean he can't be casing the neighborhood. If st saw the same landscaping truck, pool truck, tennis court truck, or the geek squad round her block that many times i am sure she would have felt the same way. See something, say something its your right to feel comfort in your own neighborhood.

As far as competition, Mr. Softee is ...more
By EQuoguer (2), East Quogue on Jun 21, 18 2:32 PM
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