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Sep 10, 2009 10:14 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Supervisor Kabot will fight DWI charge, stay in race

Sep 10, 2009 10:14 AM

Southampton Town Supervisor Linda Kabot said Tuesday evening that she will not resign from office nor drop out of her reelection campaign following her DWI arrest early on Labor Day in Westhampton Beach.

Ms. Kabot was pulled over at 12:25 a.m. Monday after Westhampton Beach Village Police said they saw her crossing the double yellow line while turning left onto Main Street from Library Avenue. She reportedly failed field sobriety tests, but she refused a blood alcohol test.

After being held overnight in police custody, Ms. Kabot, 41, pleaded not guilty at her arraignment later Monday morning and was released on her own recognizance. She said she will “vigorously defend myself” in court, and she immediately ruled out any chance that the misdemeanor criminal charge would alter her immediate political plans.

“I plan to continue an issues-oriented campaign toward Election Day and to effectively map out the town’s strategic financial management plan through the budget process, working with the key town administrators and the members of the Town Board,” Ms. Kabot stated in an e-mail.

Marcus Stinchi, the chairman of the Southampton Town Republican Party, did not return numerous calls seeking comment this week.

On Wednesday, Tom Knobel, an aide to Suffolk County Board of Elections Republican Commissioner Cathy Geier, said it is too late for the Southampton Town GOP to put another candidate on the ballot. “She is the candidate. Even if she resigns as the supervisor, she’s still it,” he said. “Extraordinary steps would have to be taken to get her name off the ballot.”

Mr. Knobel said the last opportunity for the candidate on the Republican ticket to be replaced was July 20. The only circumstance that would allow a new name on the ballot at this point would be in the event the candidate was unable to serve the office if elected, such as if the person were to be disqualified from eligibility or had died.

The Westhampton Beach Village Police arrest report states that the Republican supervisor, who lives in Quogue, refused to submit to a breath test after failing two field sobriety tests. The arresting officer noted that, “upon interview, [Ms. Kabot’s] eyes were red and glassy and her breath smelled strongly of an alcoholic beverage.”

Ms. Kabot was charged with DWI and transported to Quogue Village Police headquarters, where she was held prior to her arraignment Monday morning in Westhampton Beach. The Westhampton Beach police station does not have a holding cell.

She was arraigned at around 10 a.m. Monday in Westhampton Beach Village Court before Justice Robert Kelly Jr. Ms. Kabot pleaded not guilty and was released on her own recognizance. Her driver’s licence was suspended, and she is due back in Westhampton Beach Village Court on Wednesday, September 30, at 1 p.m.

Ms. Kabot, who was wearing black capris and a blue jacket, stood in silence during her arraignment. Her lawyer, James McManmon of Riverhead, entered the not guilty plea on her behalf. Ms. Kabot has since retained John O’Brien of Sag Harbor as her attorney. He did not return calls seeking comment.

After her arraignment, Ms. Kabot avoided two news photographers by sprinting across the Village Court parking lot to her car, where her husband, Lance, was waiting in the driver’s seat.

Ms. Kabot, who has three children, was alone in her 2006 gray Toyota at the time of her arrest. The car, which is registered to her, was not impounded and was left legally parked on Main Street.

The supervisor did not return calls seeking comment this week, but in an e-mail sent late Monday night she said she had been driving home from a 40th birthday celebration at her sister’s house in East Moriches when she decided to drive through downtown Westhampton Beach to check out the Labor Day activity and “to hopefully see some economic recovery after a thunderstorm-filled summer.”

“I was basically the only one driving through,” she wrote. “And two Village Police officers pulled me over and alleged various vehicle and traffic infractions and DWI.” Ms. Kabot was also given tickets for disobeying a stop sign and failing to maintain her lane, according to police records.

She released a formal statement on Monday via e-mail saying she was not going to comment further on the incident. It read:

“I am addressing this personal matter with my attorney through the appropriate legal channels. Please respect my privacy. Let the process run its course. I will not only have to vigorously defend against these charges in court, but also now must continue to defend my character and credibility as a public official. On the advice of my attorney, there will be no further comment at this time.”

According to police reports, after police pulled Ms. Kabot over, a “highly intoxicated” 38-year-old Westhampton man who was at the scene of the traffic stop began yelling at the officers and shouted “Don’t blow! Don’t blow!” at Ms. Kabot, suggesting that she not agree to the breath test. The man, who was cursing at police officers, ignored two warnings from the officers asking him to leave the area. The man was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct, a violation, according to police reports.

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This story is now updated and, based on the input of commenters and our past practices, we're going to allow comments on this story, since Ms. Kabot is a public figure.

Please refrain from making inappropriate comments, including comments that focus on details of the criminal case, which is still pending.
By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (201), Hampton Bays on Sep 10, 09 10:19 AM
I am so dissapointed in the extremely poor judgement she showed that night and now she has to face the music as anyone else would. I will respect whatever decision the Town or the Court makes for or against her. However that does not change my high opinion of the work that she has done since she has been in office as both a Town Board member and the Supervisor. I do not regret voting Heaney out of office and I will once again cast my vote for Linda come November. She is the right person for the ...more
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 10, 09 10:55 AM
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I'm still going to vote for her. Remember you're still innocent until proven guilty.
By PrivateerMatt (390), Weesuck Creek , EQ on Sep 10, 09 11:22 AM
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In light of the death of the 15 year old in Hampton bays just a few weeks ago by a drunk driver , this event highlights Ms. Kabots reckless disregard of basic common sense and denotes her extreme lack of judgement. She is simply unfit for public office ! Those of you whom think she should receive a mere slap on the wrist should broach that conversation with the mother of the dearly departed Mr. Marino whom at 15 years of age never got the second chance at life due to the unethical and amoral behavior ...more
By Daddy-o (6), southampton on Sep 10, 09 12:01 PM
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I havent seen any comments posted in this section yet indicating or endorsing she "should receive a mere slap on the wrist." Besides, thats not for us to decide.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 10, 09 12:20 PM
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Mr. Shaw, I applaud you for opening this story to comments. As Ms. Kabot is a republican and most of the inappropriate comments on these boards come from her side, you don't have to worry.

If found guilty, Ms. Kabot needs to drop out of the race.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 10, 09 12:21 PM
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What better way to have proved innocence by blowing into a breath analyzer or submitting to a blood alcohol test. Linda choose to do neither, obviously because she wouldn't have passed these tests.

She should done the honorable thing, like Steve Brautigam, and admitted her wrong doing. Instead, she's actually wants us to believe she's innocent? Dishonest and exactly why she should no longer be supervisor.
By RealLocal (76), Bridgehampton on Sep 10, 09 12:27 PM
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Again, someone is commenting on something that HASNT been written? "She actually wants us to believe she's innocent" Where does it say that? B/C she's pleaded not guilty?? Pleading not guilty is a way of supplying a defendant with more legal options. As in when you go to traffic court and plead "not guilty" for a speeding ticket- most of us have been to traffic court, right?- and by pleading that way, they usually reduce the charge and/or points on your license. Thats why murderers plead not guilty ...more
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 10, 09 12:52 PM
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Hey People First, before you go painting all Republicans with a single brush you might want to review your own comments here...I don't see where any of these are advancing a civil dialogue and are rather inapporopriate -
“you seem to have an odd obsession with sheep. Perhaps you should seek help”… “The conservative party is a bunch of out of touch neocons."…. “Right wing whackos strike again."… “Has anyone else noticed that Catholics and Christians are the least Christ-like people you'll ever ...more
By DJII13 (155), Hampton Bays on Sep 10, 09 12:56 PM
She won't drop out........the powers that be(her lawyers or the courts) will drag this out and the case won't be resolved until AFTER elections, most likely.......the American way.......yes, innocent until proven guilty..........that's why we choose to live here...........but she should voluntarily step down if she is found guilty...........the drunk driving issue(Hampton Bays and Taconic) is way too hot to condone this behavior by anyone............
By MaryMac (43), Riverhead on Sep 10, 09 1:09 PM
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I'm not sure what you are saying Sam? Kabot is pleading not guilty but she's not saying she is innocent. So you are saying, Kabot is not innocent of drinking and driving that night, right? You can't defend this, sorry.

I'm not a Kabot hater, I'm a drinking and driving hater. And if the Supervisor of the Town of Southampton cannot use better judgment before hoping in a car after she boozed it up at a party, how can we trust her judgment in the decisions she makes in her job?
By RealLocal (76), Bridgehampton on Sep 10, 09 1:09 PM
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What ashame, Ms. Kabot should be absolutely ashamed of herself for the behavior displayed that evening,What ever happened to leading thorugh example? As a public figure you are always held to a higher standard, this is who represents the people of Southampton Town? What a dissapointment. If she in her mind believes she is not guilty of the offense, why did she refuse a breath test? Let me ask you something, If you were stopped for a traffic infraction and the officer accused you of consuming alcohol ...more
By BlueStreak (34), East End on Sep 10, 09 1:21 PM
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Submitting to a chemical test upon reasonable grounds is a condition of receiving a license to drive in NYS. Regardless of guilty/innocent, submitting to the test is something you agreed to when you accepted your driver's license.

Refusing to submit is basically reneging on a contract after you signed it. Who wants an individual with those ethics running our Town?
By diy_guy (101), Southampton on Sep 10, 09 1:25 PM
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DJII13, I stand by every word.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 10, 09 1:33 PM
People first it is honorable that you stand by your comments, although you have little choice unless you repudiate them. What is dishonorable is to paint all people of a particular party with a singular brush, particularly when you have nothing factual to back it up. What seems so ironic is it is that type of behaviour which you seems to post so passionately against.
By DJII13 (155), Hampton Bays on Sep 10, 09 1:41 PM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By Bridget325 (27), Hampton Bays on Sep 10, 09 1:48 PM
Pretty soon, we shall all be behind bars or facing being stopped by the police in the Town of Southampton. The bogus charge of driving over the yellow line is just that - bogus . Unfortunately, Ms. Kabot will learn first hand how
everyone's rights are trampled on in this town. The same town that
advertises all of the bars and restaurants serving liquor but does nothing about proving an alternative means of transportation.
By Bridget325 (27), Hampton Bays on Sep 10, 09 1:50 PM
In response to "Real Local" what Im saying is "not guilty" is a legal term, more like a strategy I guess you could say, used in the court system. Its not used that way in our day-to-day speech. But in the legal system it entitles defendants to options or plea bargains, and to a trial and forces the lawyers to fight it out. If youre asking me what I think.... from what Ive heard it sounds as though she drank before she got behind the wheel. But just like that off-duty police officer who was killed ...more
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 10, 09 1:51 PM
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And to Bridget325 I agree!!
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 10, 09 1:53 PM
DII3, What is dishonorable is to lie to achieve your ends. While you're looking through comments, have a look at some of the whoppers from right-wingers on this site re: health care, Tim Bishop, immigration, the presidents speech to school children and on and on. I have no problem with a good back and forth and I'll continue to call out unfounded propaganda. Furthermore, since you are so interested in my comments, read the one I posted here to which you first responded: I did not say "all", ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 10, 09 2:11 PM
I don't care who wins the election...Drunk driving IS drunk driving no matter what town or village the DWI is in. No one makes ANYONE drink and get behind the wheel of a car!
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!
By hamptoniteforlife (15), WHB on Sep 10, 09 2:24 PM
There seems to be more to this story- was Linda held overnight in Quogue after being arrrested in Westhampton Beach. I also understand that her and her husband were both handcuffed because of their actions toward police officers. Maybe these are only rumors, but there must be more to this story.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Sep 10, 09 2:31 PM
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peoplefirst, I looked through your comments because I sensed a kettle calling a pot black and from what I read, I was correct and I have issues with that. I have no doubt there are people on both sides of every issue making baseless and needlessly inflamatory comments. But your suggestion that they come disproportionately from Republicans, particularly as it relates to a local issue such as the Supervisor, is intellectually dishonest and lazy. And as a Republican insulting.
By DJII13 (155), Hampton Bays on Sep 10, 09 2:40 PM
Have some of you forgotten - innocent until proven guilty?
By BM (10), Southampton on Sep 10, 09 2:48 PM
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I believe not one us commentators, including myself, was there. We have no idea what happened other than for the most part acedotal information. Let the case run through the legal system and end the rumors and speculation.
By North of Highway (279), Westhampton Beach on Sep 10, 09 3:06 PM
In reference to Bridget325 comment of a bogus traffic stop for driving over the yellow line, this is a traffic viloation and in most cases petty ,however a legal reason to stop a motorist. There are pretty few officers that will even issue a citation for the violation, but from experience "minor violations " can lead to major arrests, all citizens of the community should be thankful of a proactive police department in the fight against drunk driving., a potential tragedy was prevented that evening.
By BlueStreak (34), East End on Sep 10, 09 3:15 PM
Mr. shaw, why do you let some stories be commented on and other updated ones not? Could it be your afraid that some truth might get out? or could it be your slanted towards a particular view? or you don't have the guts to let it fall where it may. Not very balanced reporting.
By Johnny Nova (83), Northampton on Sep 10, 09 3:18 PM
@EastEnd68 and Mr. Hamptons:

As the story says, a second person was cited for disorderly conduct at the scene, but it was not Ms. Kabot's husband, Lance. We don't routinely publish the names of people cited for violation-level offenses, because they're so minor, but I can tell you it was not Lance Kabot. Ms. Kabot said she was alone in the vehicle at the time of the stop, and that has not been challenged by police.

Hope that helps clear it up.
By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (201), Hampton Bays on Sep 10, 09 3:20 PM
@Johnny Nova:

I appreciate the criticism, but all I can say is that we're trying very hard to maintain a level of decorum on the site and within the commenting. I know some sites are the "Wild West" and allow anyone to say anything they want, anonymously. We've decided to maintain the anonymous nature of internet commenting, but we really do want to keep the comments on the subject, and within bounds.

I wrote a long comment elsewhere on the site about the problems we're having ...more
By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (201), Hampton Bays on Sep 10, 09 3:27 PM
First and foremost, Drinking and driving and the consequences that follow are not a private matter. They are a public matter, a public safety matter, and a public health matter. Second, refusing to blow into a breathalizer, is only done when the person knows they are guilty, and more than likely trying to avoid an aggravated dwi charge (ie blood/alcohol level above .18). Third, claiming to fight the charge vigorously, clearly shows that our town supervisor has no respect for her police department, ...more
By grimag (38), southampton on Sep 10, 09 3:50 PM
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Please remove or disregard my previous comments-those rumors are all false.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Sep 10, 09 3:54 PM
WHB spent all that money on a state of the art police facility and did not include a holding cell? Mayberry was better equipped.
By William Rodney (494), southampton on Sep 10, 09 4:05 PM

Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone
By North of Highway (279), Westhampton Beach on Sep 10, 09 4:11 PM
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Fact is how can the Town Supervisor act as if the local police department is fabricating DWI breath test results. This may be a good defense for the average citizen but not an elected town employee...supervisor no less. She is opening the door for every DWI attorney to argue the town fixes the test result as per the Supervisor herself. Bad choice on her part to not sober up before driving and another bad choice to call out the local police who she has direct input into with town budgets etc...Don't ...more
By jekgbs (35), East Hampton on Sep 10, 09 4:59 PM
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shame on you.
you are not a role model to the community and,especially to your own children
I wonder, will you be doing your community service at the dump with the other DWI's or, in a nice warm office?
resign
By local (106), north sea on Sep 10, 09 5:28 PM
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If you are pulled over for drinking and driving and you are sober, you take a breathalyzer. When you are caught red-handed the thing to do is not to blame others, but to own up. This is a pattern with Linda Kabot. Blame someone else. Ms. Kabot can be forgiven for making a mistake, however, IF she is indeed guilty, her reaction to her bust is entirely inappropriate and speaks to a serious character flaw.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Sep 10, 09 6:05 PM
WHB definitely has a holding cell...they might have been full that night. I know this because i know a few people who have been detained in them...
By slamminsammy (104), East Moriches on Sep 10, 09 6:22 PM
dagdavid has it right. This is Linda's pattern-blame someone else, in this case the police. I hope the police have of video of the field test and the truth will come out. Running for office again is now the least of Linda's problems. I sincerely pray she gets the help she needs.
By eastquogueguy (22), East Quogue on Sep 10, 09 6:51 PM
Setting aside the electoral prospects of a candidate on Town Board when the current financial mess was created, Mrs. Kabot IS presumed innocent.

It seems that the overwhelming majority who have posted to this page presume she was drunk and/or presume she refused to take a breath test. That could turn out to be true, or the evidence might not overcome the presumption of innocence.

The police SAY she failed two field sobriety tests, and refused to take a breath test. If the ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Sep 10, 09 7:03 PM
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Hey, about that 2 liter bottle, and you blew it 2/3 full; let that count as a refusal because it takes 3/4.
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Sep 10, 09 7:16 PM
Give me a break Publius you most be her attorney. She said on her email to the East Hampton Star she refused the test because she did not trust the cops mostly the supervisor in charge. So stop your crap with the coke bottle. Next about police abuse we all know about it but drunk driving is not like finding the kidnapper of the Lindenberg baby. Cops are not out to get the big cheese Ms. Linda K. No this is about a problem faced by many and admitted to by most. She is guilty and she needs to shut ...more
By jekgbs (35), East Hampton on Sep 10, 09 7:34 PM
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i'm touched by linda's tribute to teddy kennedy.
By hamptons surfer (79), southampton on Sep 10, 09 8:26 PM
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please before you post a comment, consider that her children may read your comments, some of which are hurtful. In time her guilt or innocence will come to light,if she is in fact,guilty,she will have to face her punishment,dwi is a very serious offense,but until then public opinions against her are hurting the innocent,her family. Some times we are all guilty of letting our political feelings over ride our otherwise fair judgement,and forget we are all human and make mistakes.Let her have her ...more
By curious (77), westhampton beach on Sep 10, 09 8:48 PM
Does any one that is blogging here know Ms. Kabot personally? Have you ever been in her company socially?
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Sep 10, 09 9:27 PM
Whether Mrs. Kabot is innocent of the charges that have been made or not. You can be sure it is a difficult time for her. Compassion doesn't cost a dime.

When it comes to the legal process, the public, the Legislature, and even the Courts have gone just a little nuts. Consider that a person's drivers license can be suspended without a trial at all.

Sure some will regurgitate the mantra driving is a privilege, not a right. Try living on the East End without that "privilege." ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Sep 10, 09 9:34 PM
Oh Please her children are reading the blogs and the fact she refused a breath test means we should feel sorry she will lose her license for 6 months. Fact is we all need to be responsile and we all have short comings and make mistakes. That is not the point. The point is she is lying and blaming the cops. There is only one truth here and if she took the test we would not be having this discussion...because she would not be blaming it on anyone but herself...whats wrong with that...she made a mistake...try ...more
By jekgbs (35), East Hampton on Sep 10, 09 10:01 PM
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jekgbs
In what paper did it state that Kabot went to WH to check up on the success of the labor day events?
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Sep 10, 09 10:37 PM
Spitzer played and paid with his own money and he was forced to resign.

Kabot could have killed some one and we can't remove her from office or the Ballot. POOR JUDGMENT,BAD DECISION could have cause someone to lose a life. BUT "Respect my privacy"

I question her judgment and decisions she will be making for us the taxpayers in the future.

Come on what a joke Innocence till proven guilty...... RESIGN

Here are 2 facts from the NYS dept Motor Vehicle
•Chemical ...more
By Small voice from speonk (1), Speonk on Sep 10, 09 11:13 PM
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Golfbuddy East Hampton Star anyway I wish her the best I just don't like the blaming others. Too many people play victim when all they need to do is fess up. One DWI is not going to destroy anyones career. Everyone deserves forgiveness. I she learns her lesson and uses it for some good.
By jekgbs (35), East Hampton on Sep 11, 09 7:16 AM
To the editor- Exactly when did this policy of not allowing comments regarding criminal charges begin? You can't just implement a policy like that due to this particular case and then act as if it has been the policy all along. Where exactly was this protection for Guildi? Or Anthony Odone? Or Ryan Mcreedy? Or any one of about thirty other people of whom your paper wrote and allowed commenting about over the past year?
I have a strange feeling that the only reason that you are allowing ...more
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 7:51 AM
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GOLFBUDDY: Yes I know her personally. I attended her fundraiser last night. The Press was there so Im sure you will read about it next week. There were approximately 100 supporters or so in attendance. I cannot comment on anything she told me or what I know about her character or whether she drinks or her guilt or innocence, etc because if I do it will be deleted by the Editor. But as Ive stated previously, I respect whatever the judge/the people decide but Im still voting for her.
I have a ...more
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 8:00 AM
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Hey ALWAYS LOCAL: I think the Editor admitted numerous times he is not perfect and that mistakes have been made. And he is just trying to find a happy medium. LET IT GO. If everyone keeps attacking him maybe he will remove the comment section altogether. Then will you be happy?? P.S. Anthony Odone deserved no protection.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 8:03 AM
I don't think any of them deserved protection, for the record. But Linda Kabot doesn't either--she is a public figure and should expect criticism for all of her actions.

This is not about Odone, or Guildi, or Mcreedy, or even Kabot-- it is about this media outlet deciding what opinions we should or should not be allowed to hear. This paper let its bloggers beat up on anyone in the past, but NOW they are worried about the blogs? Thats basically like saying, "You can state any opinion ...more
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 8:12 AM
and P.S. it wasn't a "mistake" that comments couldn't be placed about this case, it was completely deliberate and intentional. Use your head Sam.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 8:15 AM
READ this article, then talk of compassion for Kabot!!! She deserves NONE!

Publication: The Southampton Press
Hampton Bays community mourns boy killed by accused drunk driver
By Vera Chinese
Aug 26, 09 11:47 AM


Yes, innocent until proved guilty is the platform of our legal system...but a case such as this...failing field sobriety tests, refusing blood or breath tests...all gives the anecdotal appearance of driving while intoxicated...

All drunk driving ...more
By eastendlocal (28), southampton on Sep 11, 09 8:39 AM
There is a wide ranging sentiment that once a person becomes an elected official that they can be treated as sub-human. An earlier post states "she is a public figure and should expect criticism for all of her actions" is just one such example.

I think it is long past time to recognize that, like us, our elected officials are entirely human. When we focus on the warts, real or alleged, we risk missing those valuable contributions that person makes to our community.

When we ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 8:39 AM
First of all Publius, the southampton press is not "a quasi-public office." It is a privately owned company that needs not answer to the public. They can write any story, from any point of view that they wish, whether it is correct or not.

My point on the issue (which you are completely missing) is not that Linda Kabot needs or doesn't need protection from the media--it is simply to show that the press will go so far out on a limb to protect her that it hurts their journalistic credibility. ...more
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 8:56 AM
I think this is becoming a public attack on the Editor and thats NOT what this section is for. We are supposed to commenting on the CONTENT OF THE STORIES. If you have something to say to the Editor you should write him a letter. THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR IT IN MY OPINION. Those of you who are doing it are turning this section into something else- something it was not meant to be. If you have a complaint about policies you should send a mature, professionally written letter to the Paper. You catch ...more
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 9:01 AM
Anyway- regarding my previous posting about my ex's DWI's: My exwife married & divorced again. Her ex husband has custody of the children. She is supposed to be paying him child support. She does not. So NOW Nystate took her drivers license away. Any opinions on this??
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 9:11 AM
Hey Sam you do not like anyone voicing compliants about the newspapers policies as if it is a personal matter. Then you make all sorts of accusations about your ex-wife that could be liable. This is not about your ex-wife get over it she is gone move on with your life....this is about a newspaper that in it's current issue has blogs about McGintee and Ted Hults criminal issues suggesting they don't allow blogs about criminal issues. They created the conspiracy no one else. Glad they regrouped and ...more
By jekgbs (35), East Hampton on Sep 11, 09 9:21 AM
Sam you are entirely right- this is not what this section is for. This section IS for "commenting on the CONTENT OF THE STORIES", but keep in mind, had a couple of us not called out the editor- you wouldn't be able to do that at all.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 9:21 AM
When I read these comments I can't help but picture the scene from Frankenstein, a mob of people holding torches chasing after him. I may not agree with their policies, but Linda is not a monster, nor is the editor Joe Shaw, give them some respect, no one is perfect, I know I'm not and I'm sure none of you are either.
By WHBYankee (17), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 9:24 AM
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WHBYankee if I were Joe Shaw I would be enjoying this. Any publicity is better then no publicity when you market a newspaper...ask Ann Coulter...No one is hanging Linda Kabot she is not a monster just maybe someone who stuggles with tellling the truth. If that does not bother you when she has say over a 170 million budget then your right to let it go. But I rather keep her in check then take a pass
By jekgbs (35), East Hampton on Sep 11, 09 9:30 AM
drunk driving... it happens to the best of us. Good example of why we need better traffic safety on rt. 39. An important opportunity was squandered (who is responsible, Mrs Kabot?) when the reconstruction took place last year, but that does not mean that we are at the end of "Saga-CR39". For example, a traffic light is needed at the intersection of CR39 and hills station rd.
By deKooning (84), southampton on Sep 11, 09 9:38 AM
I don't think that anyone said that either Ms. Kabot or Mr. Shaw was a monster. If I had recieved a DWI in some horrible accident, this newspaper would post a story about it, and people would be blogging here about it. I would not be treated with kid gloves any more than other offenders have in the past. That is the nature of the beast, and I'm fine with that. But don't believe that this would be the case for someone in whom the press has a vested interest. Please understand that as you read ...more
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 9:38 AM
The reason I consider working in the Press a quasi-public office it is based upon the unique status granted the Press in this country. It is different from other corporate enterprises.

Freedom of the Press is constitutionally based in both our Federal and State Constitution. In NY we also have a shield law which permits reporters to refuse to answer questions about confidential sources without fear of being jailed for contempt. (The same issue in federal court is more in doubt after ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 9:39 AM
The issue, Publius, is not that the press has a hard time setting rules for commenting-- it's that they have a hard time circumnavigating those rules when they need to to protect an ally, because they can't make it look like this policy has always been enforced (or even in place). They have egg on their face and will have to live with it, whether they admit to it or not.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 10:24 AM
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What a bunch of gas bags so far off-topic they any longer have no idea what they are arguing about !
By Frank Wheeler (1796), Northampton on Sep 11, 09 10:30 AM
To jekgbs: Im hysterical laughing at your comment b/c you ENTIRELY missed the point. No this is not about my exwife this is about drunk driving and the misplaced & inconsistent enforcement of it. My exwife was able to drive drunk not once, not twice but 3X with a license in full force. The state only decided "enough" when she got behind pymts on her child support. Kabot's license was taken away on the spot, first offense, 24hrs. And no I dont have any affiliations to the Press!! ha ha...hysterical. ...more
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 10:37 AM
FrankWheeler: I agree.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 10:38 AM
Linda held a fundraiser last night? Was that a re-election fund raiser or a legal defense fund raiser? Either way she needs help.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Sep 11, 09 10:52 AM
My thanks to Joe Shaw-27East gets record daily hits because of this story.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Sep 11, 09 10:55 AM
What I find extremely disturbing is that some of you are joking around and condemning this woman for an ALLEGED DWI, yet a TEACHER (of young children) was recently arrested (for the SECOND time) for HEROIN use & the comments made relating to that story were, "Oh, gee, he's so nice, let's forgive & forget." We ALL make mistakes. Consider yourselves lucky that YOUR mistakes don't make front page news.
By Ms. Jane Q. Public (147), Southampton on Sep 11, 09 10:57 AM
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On a legal stand point Mrs. Kabot by not submitting to the test shows her lack of belief in the officials in Suffolk County; I believe that she should have taken the test but it is also odd to me why she didn’t. Living in Suffolk County is very strange now; the police seem to have their own motives. I do believe that some do abuse the authority given to them. I had a friend come in from Rome after much pushing for him and his family to come. The first time he was here he was pulled over and ...more
By let'stryagain (21), WestHampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 11:03 AM
Johnny Nova hope all is good with you. Does the Newspaper do any research of their own to validate the stories they give or is there something more going on on who's name is published.
By let'stryagain (21), WestHampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 11:07 AM
jekgbs
you're absolutely right "the paper has the right to do whatever they want. Its their paper, its their website." Explain that to Sam who thinks that is it a "quasi-public office."
I have no problems with the paper doing whatever they want, as long as they don't try to convince the readers that they're trying to do what is best for them.

Thats just dishonest.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 11:08 AM
@ AlwaysLocal:

I have tried to be as open and honest about our struggle with commenting policies, and the fact that input from commenters was certainly an element in reconsidering them, in other posts. (I think if you click on the 'total comments" link below, you can read them all.) You certainly can interpret the matter as you choose; all I can say is that it's a struggle to find a responsible policy.

For the record: When we post a police item (a normal DWI charge that appears ...more
By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (201), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 09 11:10 AM
Why is there ANY debate about forgiving OR forgetting??? Driving while impaired doesn't just HAPPEN, whether it is heroin, vodka or cough syrup.

Personally I do not care what a person ingests, inhales or injects in the privacy of their own home...however, when they choose to do it, knowing full well that they are getting behind the wheel of what then becomes a weapon, that is when I have a problem. Kabot knew she was going to a party. That teacher knew he was fixed up before getting in ...more
By eastendlocal (28), southampton on Sep 11, 09 11:13 AM
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Sam Obviously you and Ms Kabot are drinking buddies being stalked by the Southampton police so your ex-wife can continue to drink and drive. Sorry I did not understand your point since it must have been relevant to state law and the fact the Town Supervisor a public official unlike your ex wife gets a drunk driving charge and blames the police for harrasment. But thanks for setting me straight and thanks for the compliment.
By jekgbs (35), East Hampton on Sep 11, 09 11:15 AM
i'm sorry that quote was from sam, not jekgbs. Sam you have contradicted yourself.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 11:16 AM
ALWAYS LOCAL: It is I, Sam, who made those comments. Not jekgbs.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 11:16 AM
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By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 11:21 AM
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By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 11:22 AM
EastEnd68: yes it was a re-election fundraiser. About a hundred or so turned out.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 11:23 AM
alwayslocal: I have no problem with any of my posts being removed. Since I too seem to be guilty of getting off point. And Mr shaw said he very much appreciated everyone staying on point. My apologies. But I suppose I just couldnt help but state the obvious.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 11:25 AM
And as far as my own references to my ex-wife go, I was merely trying to start up an intelligent conversation regarding the inconsistent enforcement of drunk driving.... which DOES pertain to the topic. However if no one is interested that is fine too. Tough crowd. I will have to let Linda know how she has kept this forum alive!!
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 11:34 AM
lol. wow, I was completely making a joke about the MORON thing. I didn't really think they'd censor it, that's hilarious. Sam, I wouldn't want anybody on this blog to be censored, I would hope that you feel the same.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 11:42 AM
Well although this has def. NOT been intellectual or even mature, I have to admit it has been fun folks. Have a nice day weekend everyone.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 11:42 AM
And jekgbs thanks for making me laugh again & again.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 11:43 AM
Back at you Sam you enjoy your weekend to...smile
By jekgbs (35), East Hampton on Sep 11, 09 11:46 AM
and mr. editor if you must delete my post please only delete the word "moron". I would like the rest of my comment to remain. Thanks!
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 11:49 AM
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By BOReilly (133), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 09 12:13 PM
Once again, Mr. Shaw argues, "When we post a police item (a normal DWI charge that appears on the police page, for instance), we automatically do not allow comments."

Well, I go back to the story on former town comptroller Steve Brautigam, who was arrested for DWI in Southold. I reported that story, which included comments from Ms. Kabot that Mr. Brautigam "exercised poor judgement." Despite the possible ramfications to Mr. Brautigam's career and family, the comments were posted immediately, ...more
By Brian Bossetta (17), Southampton on Sep 11, 09 12:14 PM
Exactly who decides which cases can be commented on, and which ones are kept out of harms way?
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 12:30 PM
AlwaysLocal:

I don't recall this ever being an issue. The nature of a specific comment may have been as inappropriate ones have either been taken down or not posted in the first place.

But it seems to me that if a case is newsworthy and that the story is posted on the website and printed in the paper, and that if letters to the editor would be accepted, then comments on the web should be as well.

The question is: If the story on Ms. Kabot's arrest is available for public ...more
By Brian Bossetta (17), Southampton on Sep 11, 09 12:48 PM
I completely agree, Mr. Bossetta, 100 percent. My cause for alarm is the process by which it was decided that posts wouldn't be, and then later would be, allowed. Are all of the stories regarding criminal charges subject to the same standards? Or are there factors present in this particular case that made it more difficult to decide?
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 1:04 PM
I ask because the press hasn't done an about face on this issue ever before. Or not at least that I recall.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 1:10 PM
Well, AlwaysLocal, that's a question for those who used to pay my salary.

All I can say is that I do not recall any case, whether it was one I reported on or one that others reported on, such as the investigations in East Hampton, in which comments were not allowed.

Again, in my humble opinion, if allowing citizens to comment on their supervisor being arrested for DWI would somehow infringe on Ms. Kabot's right to due process, then the story itself should have been held.

This ...more
By Brian Bossetta (17), Southampton on Sep 11, 09 1:20 PM
Again, Mr. Bossetta, I agree 100 percent.

Wouldn't It be nice for those who used to pay your salary to let us all in on their decision making in this situation? That's a rhetorical question-- I'm not expecting an answer.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 1:29 PM
Who among us has not made mistakes? Yes, she may be an elected official but surprise, surprise ... she is still human. Maybe she will use the embarrassment to change her behavior?

Linda is hardly my favorite person. Let's hope whatever happens with this unfortunate misjudgment, that from it Linda learns something: softens her heart, learns some humility, and is less prideful. And if she expresses remorse and asks for forgiveness ... well, isn't that what anyone of us would want?
By JimmyKBond (155), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 09 2:08 PM
@ AlwaysLocal:

Ummm...no offense, but I've posted nearly a half dozen comments letting you in on our decision making in this case as best as I can. I'm trying to offer as much transparency as this forum allows. As I said, click the "total comments" number below to read them all. To sum up: I think we were too cautious in originally not allowing comments on this story--criticism accepted. You can see political motivation if you choose...all I can say is that it has more to do with the difficulties ...more
By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (201), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 09 2:09 PM
Oops--guess a couple of comments did get taken down. My bad. Wasn't aware. Still, the overwhelming number have been fine.
By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (201), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 09 2:14 PM
You folks need to back off on criticizing the newspaper policy or the editor. They do a good job in a tough, unforgiving environment (no I am NOT a Press employee or relative :-)

BTW, allowing these comments and providing a forum is a COURTESY. It is a private business and subject to all kinds of liability ... so cut 'em a break and be happy you have a place to spout off (hopefully, with respect).
By JimmyKBond (155), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 09 2:16 PM
JimmyB everyone is happy that Joe decided to open the blogs on this story. The point about forgiveness is well taken but before someone can recieve forgiveness they first need to ask for it. Ms.Kabot is not asking for forgivenss she is asking people to accept her version of the story. Only that version if true would mean the local police were consipiring against her. So now you have a story within a story. Then when you factor in that the press held back intitially it gets even more interesting. ...more
By jekgbs (35), East Hampton on Sep 11, 09 2:42 PM
Dear Mr. Shaw,

Disallowing commentary on crime stories insulates police departments from criticism. Special guidelines for crime story commentary could be followed, in addition to the general ones, to avoid the problems that you mentioned above.

I come to 27east more for the commentary than the articles. The commentaries gives a richer picture of commnity weltanschuung than the simple news items. Excluding crime stories makes that picture unclear.
By highhatsize (3600), East Quogue on Sep 11, 09 2:58 PM
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Now what, does one suppose, was wrong with my last post? Why was it taken down in a matter of minutes? I wonder if anybody even had the chance to read it. That's okay, I'll post it again-- for it had no foul language, no personal attacks, and the subject was something that people have been commenting on. So here it is again. (I'll save this one, so that if it gets taken down again I can re-post it a little faster next time.)

Mr. Shaw,
With all due respect you are offering ...more
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Sep 11, 09 3:29 PM
@AlwaysLocal:

I checked with our tech folks--they have no record of your posts being removed. If you're having technical problems, you can contact our tech folks. Regardless, your comment is posted above.

I honestly think I have covered all that ground in numerous posts. We seem to be beating a dead horse. To recap: We felt that, because we limit commenting on police stories for the reasons I mentioned, that policy should be extended to this instance. We have, in the past, allowed ...more
By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (201), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 09 3:47 PM
@highhatsize:

I accept your input. I see the point about insulating police departments--not the purpose, but I suppose it is an unintended consequence.

As I said earlier, with police items in the past, the comments have tended toward one of just a few types: things like "fry him" and "clearly guilty"--inappropriate, especially when the facts of a case are often in dispute; observations about the specific case that are based on opinions rather than facts; and information we don't ...more
By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (201), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 09 3:55 PM
Dear JimmyKBond:

You are absolutely right. The forum is a courtesy. The issue is providing that courtesy in some instances and not in others, such as Steve Brautigam's arrest (to beat a dead horse) and Ms. Kabot's.

Have you ever considered that all the average citizens named in the police blotter are presumed innocent? Do you think in every case they are all found guilty? How often have you read in the paper that "so and so" who appeared in last week's police blotter was found ...more
By Brian Bossetta (17), Southampton on Sep 11, 09 4:01 PM
4:00pm and you guys are still badgering the Editor??!! LET IT GO. This is not the only story in the Paper.
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 4:08 PM
Trust me, Sam. Joe can take it and he can dish it out. He enjoys a healthy exchange.

And while it is not the only story in the paper, it is an extremely important one...as evidenced by the fact that you too are still commenting.

By Brian Bossetta (17), Southampton on Sep 11, 09 4:14 PM
No worries, folks--this is interesting and worth the time and energy.

By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (201), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 09 4:31 PM
Does this mean, Ms Kabot will have to have one of those machines in her car that you blow into in order to get it started?
By BruceB (136), Sag Harbor on Sep 11, 09 6:07 PM
Hi Bruce B it's called an interlock and with one DUI no...becuase she refused her license gets suspended though she might be able to get a hardship where she can drive back and forth to her town hall meetings. Then she will have to attend DUI class maybe a MAD class and pay higher rates for her car insurance....it's almost enough to make you want to drink....
By jekgbs (35), East Hampton on Sep 11, 09 7:08 PM
Mr. Shaw, would you please consider a separate site for some of these gasbags who seem to go on ad nauseum simply to take swipes at each other and to see themselves online? Maybe a three-comment limit per article, then off to the web vomitorium? That might give the rest of us a chance to read what reasonable people have to say without wading through so much garbage.
By SusieD (109), Southampton on Sep 11, 09 7:39 PM
New saying seen on Finn McCool's bathroom wall "Don't Kabot, Cab-It!!!!"
By Redsoxsux (1), Westhampton Beach on Sep 11, 09 8:19 PM
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I have lost several friends due to drunk drivers and almost my own father who was hit by a drunk driver 15yrs ago leaving him handicaped and he lost most of his business due to his inability to work with a bum leg. If Mrs. Kabot wanted to proove her inocence she missed her chance if she were not drunk she should have submitted to the blood alcohol test her lack to do so says it all. And where was she comming from oh a 40th birthday party at her sisters house I bet there was no drinking there for ...more
By azurkgny (1), southampton on Sep 11, 09 8:57 PM
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THE ARREST IS ON VIDEO. She can say anything she wants, the video has already been sent to the DA's office. Video tells it all. Can't understand how she plans to plead not guilty with a daming video as it ts.
By Middleman (16), east quogue on Sep 11, 09 10:22 PM
Ms. Kabot is certainly presumed inncent until proven guilty. Inded, she is
cloaked in the presumption of innocennce until it has been stripped away by a guilty verdict or guilty plea. It appears, however, that the evidence that will be used to strip away tha cloak is the fact that: 1) she was observed by at least two members of the WHB Village Police Deprtment to have the classic signs of intoxication which are observable and recognizable by almost anyone (glassy, blood shot eyes, slurred ...more
By HB90 (147), southampton on Sep 11, 09 11:39 PM
How does Middleman know how damning the video is? Have you seen it?
By HB90 (147), southampton on Sep 11, 09 11:42 PM
Regarding a possible trial: My bet is that her attorney moves to have venue transfered to First District Court in Central Islip on the grounds that she won't be able to receive a fair trial here on the East End.
By HB90 (147), southampton on Sep 11, 09 11:57 PM
I don't understand all the comments assuming her innocence. Come on people, you don't refuse a breathalyzer test if you are innocent. People do this so they can plead not guilty and attempt to bargain the charges down to a lesser carge, such as a moving violation. Technically she is innocent until proven guilty but its isn't looking good for the home team! I am a republican who simply will not vote for a person who can't be more responsible. Hopefully she is thrown out of office sending a message ...more
By Walt (270), Southampton on Sep 12, 09 12:40 AM
Establishing a reading from a machine as a presumption of drunkenness is not only unfair and a violation of one’s civil rights, but, also, an invitation to police to fish motorists off the roads on the chance that they may be drunk. How often have you read in this very paper that a motorist was stopped for, “failing to maintain his lane”. That’s copspeak for, “We don’t have probable cause”. They can do this because they have a machine that will back them up in all the cases that actually result ...more
By highhatsize (3600), East Quogue on Sep 12, 09 1:13 AM
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BTW at the fundraiser, Linda was extremely humble and well aware of the effects this is having on her campaign. And she was very grateful to those who turned out. And spoke very compassionately, not obliviously, on how this type of negative press affects her family. Im just reporting, honestly, what I saw/heard. Mr Shaw, is this the most comments youve ever had on an online story???
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 12, 09 8:44 AM
Scenario (actually an amalgamation of several incidents friends have apparently gone through):

You have two glasses of wine at a company holiday party - then leave to go home. You are pulled over for, according to the officer at the traffic stop, "failure to keep right."

Now, after "smelling alcohol on your breath", the officer says you have failed the practical portion of the field sobriety test, and you now must blow into the mojo machine.

Think quickly: What would you ...more
By Undertow (64), Southampton on Sep 12, 09 8:46 AM
Interesting and (sadly) not that uncommon a scenario, Undertow.

But the Kabot arrest happened in Westhampton Beach, not Quogue.
By Frank Wheeler (1796), Northampton on Sep 12, 09 8:58 AM
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How anyone can fault the police for pulling over a potential drunk driver. I would like to thank them for being so diligent. If there is the slightest hint that a person is driving under the influence, I am totally in favor of the police stopping that person to make that determination. The consequences of not doing this could very well be fatal.
By Jean3795 (4), westhampton on Sep 12, 09 9:18 AM
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I was an allternate jurior a couple of years ago for big DWI case at the county courts up in Islip and although I did not deliberate I must say it becomes dificult to find BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that someone is guilty of DUI. Mainly because of a lack of evidence. If this goes to a jury trial, the only evidence will be police testimony and the DA will probably avoid running a parade of cops to the stand. She will probably not testify, especialy if she has a prior, so as not to incriminate herself. ...more
By Ebby (75), Sag Harbor on Sep 12, 09 10:45 AM
IFCONVICTED of dwi an elected official should be immediately removed from office. There should be Zero tolerance. We must teach our children the seriousness of drinking and driving. It simply cannot be tolerated.

By the way, redsox "Dont Kabot, cab it" should be on a t-shirt
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Sep 12, 09 3:13 PM
125 BLOGS try some decaf people
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Sep 12, 09 5:14 PM
Police forces ALWAYS react the same way when they are let off-leash. They push their arbitrary power to confront citizens to the limit.

That is what has happened in Southamnpton Town. (I can't say if Westhampton Beach is the same but there is usually conformity to the same code of ethics by neighboring jurisdiction.)

The cops are able to obscure their misbehavior by pointing to all the DUI busts that they have made. However, there are no statistics showing the number of citizens ...more
By highhatsize (3600), East Quogue on Sep 12, 09 5:26 PM
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I've lived in Westhampton for the past 20 years. I'm on the roads every Friday and Sat nights after midnight. That's 2000 nights. I do not drink and I've never been stopped. I have to assume that a person was doing something wrong to be stopped.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Sep 12, 09 5:40 PM
Oh my......havent we had enough of Linda Kabot??
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Sep 12, 09 7:14 PM
WESTHAMPTON BEACH POLICE DEPT definately DOES NOT have holding cells, there is only a metal bench that the arrestees can be hand cuffed to temperarily, not overnight.
By T.J. (29), WHB on Sep 12, 09 9:31 PM
To highhatsize: 1) Get your amendments straight. 2) If there were no breath tests there would be nothing to back up what the police say about a suspected drunk driver. In fact, in this case, the only evidence of Ms. Kabot's intoxication is the obervations of the arresting officers. I fail to see how BAC testing make sit easier for the cops to falsley claim people are drunk. On the contrary, it seems that it would make it that much more difficult.

Are you an attorney or a wannabe?
By HB90 (147), southampton on Sep 12, 09 11:14 PM
To HB90:

1) ?
2) See previous post.
By highhatsize (3600), East Quogue on Sep 13, 09 2:45 AM
To highhatsize:

The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures.
In Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643 (1961), the Supreme Court ruled that the Fourth Amendment applies to the states by way of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights that expressly prohibits the Congress from making laws ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Sep 13, 09 8:36 AM
publius, besides the "ketones exhales by those dieting heavily"...don't forget the ''hot air of those expelling nonsensical, pseudo clever responses to everyone on 27east.com''. cutting and pasting stuff from the internet doesn't make you columbo.
By hamptons surfer (79), southampton on Sep 13, 09 12:58 PM
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To Publius:

In retrospect I should have cited the 4th Amendment rather than the 1st. I was thinking of the right to, “privacy”, which has been inferred by the Supreme Court to be guaranteed by both amendments. However, since the circumstances of drunk driving stops are so clearly covered by the language of the 4th that prohibits, “unreasonable searches and seizures”, that amendment should have been my authority.

My opinion on drunk driving stops and breathalyzer use is informed ...more
By highhatsize (3600), East Quogue on Sep 13, 09 3:55 PM
The Skip Heaney Republicans are secretly delighted with this turn of events -- actually, not so secretly in the case of Mr. Heaney, who almost instantly called for Linda Kabot's resignation, saying she set a bad example. It's obvious that Skip still hasn´t gotten over losing the primary to Linda two years ago, and this is his chance to kick her when she's down. He and his crew would love to get rid of Ms. Kabot (who should go anyway for policy reasons), but they need Republican friends on the ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1847), Quiogue on Sep 13, 09 4:15 PM
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If Chris were running I would vote for him!
By Sam (252), Westhampton Beach on Sep 13, 09 6:11 PM
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Turkey Bridge has it right. The establishment Republicans have been gunning for Linda Kabot ever since she brought down Skip Heaney two years ago. This spring they denied her their party's nomination even though she was a sitting Republican Supervisor, giving the nod instead to Conservative Party Chairman Jim Malone. Then, when Linda got enough signatures to force another primary and probably beat Malone, the bosses backed down to avoid that result and gave her their blessing, demoting Malone ...more
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Sep 13, 09 6:20 PM
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Government gridlock would be welcome for the next two years.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Sep 13, 09 9:15 PM
Unbelievable. A little online research showed that I was wrong about the constitutionality of arbitrary sobriety checkpoints, (where cops erect a barrier on a highway and funnel all oncoming cars into a single lane to be eyeballed as they pass by slowly). The Supreme Court has found them to be constitutional. Additionally, the Court has even approved compulsory blood tests when there is probable cause!

What this means in Southampton Town is that after being pulled over for,"failing ...more
By highhatsize (3600), East Quogue on Sep 13, 09 10:09 PM
HIGHHATSIZE - POLICE CAN ONLY FORCE A BLOOD TEST , IF THERE IS AN ACCIDENT WITH SERIOUS INJURE OR DEATH, EVEN THEN A WARRENT SIGNED BY A JUDGE IS NEEDED.
By T.J. (29), WHB on Sep 13, 09 10:23 PM
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By HB90 (147), southampton on Sep 13, 09 10:26 PM
Turkey Bridge and fidelis
The voters of the town are not stupid but nice try on the spin.
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Sep 14, 09 12:48 AM
To T.J.,

Thank god. Our state legislators have not lost all sense of propriety. Here's a link to the A.P. story that ran yesterday:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_POLICE_DUI_BLOOD?SITE=MAHYC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
By highhatsize (3600), East Quogue on Sep 14, 09 3:10 AM
she shouldn't be able to run again for supervisior!
By tpettaway (11), Southampton on Sep 14, 09 8:20 AM
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By Middleman (16), east quogue on Sep 14, 09 9:11 AM
As a child who was orphaned because of a drunk driver, I probably can speak to this a bit more than many. Both my parents were killed by someone who was proven to be totally and slobberingly drunk.

That said -- this is, after all, still the United States of America, right? So you respondents/commenters should be well aware that everyone in the US is presumed innocent UNLESS and UNTIL PROVEN guilty. While I agree the words “not guilty” does not necessarily mean the accused is innocent, ...more
By Southampton resident (1), Southampton on Sep 14, 09 12:32 PM
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Privacy is not at issue here. Saying others did it so it's not equal justice. Would you accept that from your children? Pointing the finger and not taking full responsibility is what is at issue here. Remember Bill Clinton "I did not have sex with that woman". Politicians who lie should be held accountable. Presumed innocent is a court matter based on the theory the state needs to prove guilt. Ms. Kabot could have saved the state and taxpayer money by doing what so many others are asked to do and ...more
By jekgbs (35), East Hampton on Sep 14, 09 1:42 PM
Hey golfbuddy: Republican Chairman Marcus Stinchi is not stupid either. He's getting out while the getting is good. See the new piece on his resignation today.
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Sep 14, 09 1:59 PM
fidelis
A change in leadership may be what the rep. party needs right now. Don't waste your vote, vote republican in November. A hand full of Heaney supporters may not care for Kabot but republican's are behind Kabot 100%. If you think you can judge the election from some of the blogging going on here, don't. Its the silent majority that will be voting this Nov. From what I hear the outcry of support for Kabot is overwhelming. I think anyone with a negative blog was never voting for her anyway. ...more
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Sep 15, 09 12:37 AM
Are you kidding? Is that why the Republicans refused to give her the designation at the convention? She has been and always will be a megalomaniac who refuses to accept responsibility for her own stupidity. ask anyone who has ever had the displeasure of dealing with her professionally. She is incapable of actually listening to anyone because she believes that she knows better! And she is routinely wrong! skip left with a significant surplus. why isn't anyone asking where it went!

Want ...more
By tosh (2), Southampton on Sep 15, 09 1:13 AM
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What surplus did Skip leave? He left a deficit in the Police Dept and Highway bigger than any surplus. With the change in leadership (long overdue) the republicans are and will be 100% behind Kabot. Those that dislike Kabot are the Heaney & company people (you for one) who still can't forget she beat him in 2007.
By golfbuddy (180), hampton bays on Sep 18, 09 11:21 AM