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Comedy Central Airs Parody About Proposed Eruv In Westhampton Beach

Publication: The Southampton Press
By Laura Cooper   Mar 24, 2011 3:01 PM

A Comedy Central parody filmed in the Village of Westhampton Beach about the controversy surrounding a proposed eruv—a Jewish religious boundary—has everyone in the village talking.

The bit, entitled “The Thin Jew Line,” aired Wednesday night, March 23, on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and poked fun at the strong opposition to the proposed religious boundary.

The segment featured several village residents’ reactions to the possibility of an eruv being erected in the village. Hosted by Comedy Central news correspondent Wyatt Cenac, the segment featured interviews with Jeff Weisenfeld, a member of the Hampton Orthodox Synagogue, and Charles Gottesman, a member of Jewish People Opposed to the Eruv. The piece also highlighted interviews with several area residents in Simon’s Beach Bakery Cafe on Main Street.

Comedy Central crews were spotted interviewing local residents around the village and in Main Street businesses on January 31. The bit was originally slated to air in February.

The proposed eruv is slated to encompass the villages of Westhampton Beach and Quogue, as well as Quiogue. The two villages have filed lawsuits seeking to block the religious boundary.

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This piece was brilliant. Perfectly illustrates the ludicrous and laughable opposition to what is, for all intents and purposes, an invisible boundary that will have absolutely no effect on the lives of anyone outside of those who choose to observe the practice. The Daily Show always manages to get right to the heart of matters that most choose to over-complicate.
By dagdavid (645), southampton on Mar 24, 11 4:34 PM
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The phrase "ludicrous and laughable" is insulting, indicating what lies ahead if the eruv is forced onto the village. It's not the physical dimensions of this religious symbol that permits Orthodox Jews to break the laws they should obey. Rather, it symbolizes power and influence, and a message that would be sent well beyond village borders.

"The Daily Show" is well known for promulgating a political agenda. It seems that it is now migrating into a religious agenda as well. But enough commentary, ...more
By colonelshousealum (11), westhampton beach on Mar 24, 11 5:46 PM
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Come on, the one thing the "Daily Show" is NOT known for is "promulgating a political agenda." In fact, what it is best known for is equal parody of both sides of the political spectrum. Watch the video again, they mock the pros and the cons.

What I find insulting is the fact that so many are trying to make such a big issue of something that will have absolutely no effect on their lives.
By dagdavid (645), southampton on Mar 25, 11 11:52 AM
Nothing complex about it.

They want to circumvent the laws of their faith, because it has become inconvenient in a modern lifestyle, and desire to use public property to do so. It would seem all things must evolve, including religion, and it's laws / bylaws.

This is America, and last time I checked, allegedly majority rules, but, if you have enough money to bankrupt the "opposing" party, YOU WIN!!

Let's see how this transpires...
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 24, 11 7:42 PM
What happened to the Establishment Clause.?... Is Santa allowed Iin?
By 3k (7), easthampton on Mar 24, 11 9:15 PM
Is it constitutional to allow a religious sect to place sectarian sympols on public property? This is the question to be answered. The Hampton Synagogue wants to put korah (wires qua lintels) on the lechai'in (utility poles qua doorposts) that are on the property of the villages and hamlets.

When the question of whether it is constitutionally permissable to install religious symbols on public property has reached the Supreme Court in the past, the answer has always been "No".

So ...more
By highhatsize (2111), East Quogue on Mar 24, 11 9:41 PM
Good point, but problems that have risen in the past when it comes to religious structures on public land are usually due to people having to notice it, such as a cross or a ganesha. It's right there, people see it, and if they're sensitive enough to such things they get offended and complain. When it comes to the eruv on the other hand, you would really, really have to look hard to notice it. It's not right up in your face, it's a bit of clear twine hung high up over our heads. It really is ...more
By YesYesBub (58), East Hampton on Mar 24, 11 10:00 PM
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Most of the "problem" arrivals, have been in the last two decades.

The majority of that most, in the most recent decade, building second, or third extravagant homes with the equivalent of Mononpoly money.

Illegal immigrants are not something you "adapt to". That is a slap in the face to everyone who came here the hard way.

Now, about that can of Folger's...
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 24, 11 10:12 PM
Coming here because there was (and is) a demand for your (cheap) labor, living in squalid conditions, being paid well below prevailing wages (and sometimes not at all), having to face bigotry, scorn and hatred while you struggle to make a better life for your family - that's not "the hard way"?

YesYesBub, excellent post.
By dagdavid (645), southampton on Mar 25, 11 11:46 AM
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Yes, you fortunate, petulant, sightless ignoramus, it IS the hard way.

Do you know what it costs to become a citizen, in addition to paying taxes too? Do you know how difficult it is in many cases, to ACTUALLY learn English, as an adult? It's ALOT harder, than learning it as a child. It's not even stored as information in the same part of your brain. How about facing the same bigotry, scorn, and hatred in addition to those challenges?

Usually I refrain from commenting on one's ...more
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 25, 11 6:30 PM
Are you saying that the "illegals" do not want to become citizens? I know exactly how hard it is for these people, many of whom pay taxes, volunteer, and contribute positively to our community, to become citizens and how impossible we have made it for them to do so.

Every generation scapegoats immigrants because blame is always easier than working towards real solutions. Stomping your feet does not make you any less wrong.
By dagdavid (645), southampton on Mar 25, 11 7:08 PM
Alot of them DON'T.

You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Many of them send money home, where the dollar traditionally has been worth far more than their native currency. It allows them to build what you most likely have here, on our dime.

If you think it doesn't happen, you really need to get out more.
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 25, 11 8:10 PM
By the way, are you left handed, as well?
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 25, 11 8:12 PM
To try and end the illegal immigration thing: There are good ones who may have gotten here the wrong way but are working on fixing it, and there are bad ones taking full advantage of our incredibly messed up system, it doesn't do anyone any good lumping all of them into one group. I merely used it as an example of people who have appeared over the last half a century that we didn't want, but we learned to live with and adjusted our lives accordingly.. which is why people shouldn't be so afraid ...more
By YesYesBub (58), East Hampton on Mar 25, 11 8:16 PM
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Thing is, we will probably never hear something like that from dag.
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 25, 11 10:46 PM
"...how impossible we have made it for them to do so."

GOOD. It should be. You work hard, you get rewarded. It ain't impossible. People who "do it right", take the oath, and are naturalized on a monthly basis.

Who's fighting for freedom in their home, or fixing up their country? Who is deposing their dictators? Kermit Roosevelt? We are not the entire free world's dumping ground, and we should not be. Apparently, we have enough difficulty sustaining the population we ALREADY ...more
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 28, 11 10:21 PM
OH PLEASE, spare the they are all honest hard working bit. The mere fact they are hear illegally negates their honesty from the get go.
Some illegal aliens work hard, some sell drugs or steal. All of them do have one thing in common, NO RIGHT TO BE HERE! It's just that simple. The friends I have who've had to go through the immigration process are disrespected by each and every one of the illegal aliens, even the hard working ones. As for my desire for cheap labor, I have none, would never stoop ...more
By ICE (1195), Southampton on Mar 29, 11 6:46 AM
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BTW, if you do work hard, where you are not rewarded, take my advice, and MOVE ON at the first solid opportunity.
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 29, 11 8:43 PM
A very bad day for Charles (I almost feel sorry for him), but a great day for religious freedom.
By Steven (113), Westhampton on Mar 25, 11 3:04 AM
Hliarious, and we all know what the outcome will be.
So keep your sense of humor .
By shock (70), whb on Mar 25, 11 8:31 AM
The solution to this controversy would be for an eruv to be approved, but for all of Suffolk County. I'm unsure if this would require a referendum, or if the Suffolk County Board would need to vote on it. Either way, I bet many village eruv opponents would get right on board to support a county-wide eruv.
By colonelshousealum (11), westhampton beach on Mar 25, 11 10:11 AM
Sorry but this seems, well, I'm going to just call it errant thinking.

Having a county wide eruv will still bring all the things that the opponents don't want, which is a strict orthodox jewish influx in WHB where the synagogue is.

Opponents will also fight that tooth and nail
By justed (2), whb on Mar 26, 11 1:26 PM
Blah blah blah bunch of anti-Semites . Jews have had to put up with the majority for EVER .
By Biba (72), East Hampton on Mar 25, 11 10:24 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By lirider (29), Westhampton Beach on Aug 11, 14 10:17 PM
This segment has showed the true small mindness of the people in WHB. This is the 21th Century not the 18th. The world is open to all and so Is America.
By patf (2), westhampton beach on Mar 25, 11 11:20 AM
Well, in the 20th century, an eruv was approved in upstate New York, and the community was taken over by the community who moved in.

Yes, that's a fact, not propaganda. I wonder why people don't like the idea?
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 25, 11 6:32 PM
"the community was taken over"? That type of over the top paranoia is exactly the type of unfounded hysteria that makes this video so frighteningly accurate.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Mar 25, 11 7:13 PM
"the community was taken over"? That type of over the top paranoia is exactly the type of unfounded hysteria that makes this video so frighteningly accurate.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Mar 25, 11 7:13 PM
Not unfounded.

The stories are in the papers. Maybe you should contact a resident who moved away, and create a correspondence with them...
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 25, 11 8:07 PM
Tenafly, NJ is a town that has an eruv, has been written about on this site, and that has undergone massive changes since the installation.

By justed (2), whb on Mar 26, 11 1:29 PM
The stories are in the papers, they MUST be true. Mr Z, some of the stuff you post here is truly beyond belief! Almost everything you write, regardless of the original topic, is an attack on a minority.

Stop trying to excuse your bigotry. Admit that this Eruv will have absolutely no effect on your life and move on. I wish I could respond to some of your other nonsense, thankfully the 2 post limit stops me from doing so.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Mar 27, 11 12:52 PM
Bigot, eh?

Let's see, what does that mean? "A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of political views, different ethnicity, race, class, religion, or gender."

Oh yeah, over here. Totally a hater of everything, and some of my best friends are "African American". A very nice girl I was rather close to in high school now lives in Cali, and we do keep in touch. Obviously, you have no idea what bigot actually means, ...more
Mar 28, 11 10:04 PM appended by Mr. Z
"Maybe you should contact a resident who moved away, and create a correspondence with them... "
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 28, 11 10:04 PM
NO, you're an Anti Semite, because you dare to question anything Jewish....
By ICE (1195), Southampton on Mar 29, 11 6:48 AM
LOL...
Mar 29, 11 8:55 PM appended by Mr. Z
"Maybe you should contact a resident who moved away, and create a correspondence with them... "
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 29, 11 8:55 PM
Give them a map of they want to know where to push their baby carriages on Saturday. Or better yet. If its that important to them why don't they just follow their own religious laws. Its all about power and control. 5 Towns here we come.
By The Dark Side (8), Westhampton on Mar 25, 11 6:15 PM
Yea 5 towns here we come.....love it. Seems more and more like any number of Latin countries than the 5 towns around here.....
By Biba (72), East Hampton on Mar 25, 11 11:25 PM
Why is it, that if a segment of society doesn't get their way, they start throwing around the racist card?
By ADAMSG (35), EAST QUOGUE on Mar 26, 11 10:28 AM
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to YesYesBUb:

Sorry for the delay in answering but as a non-subscriber, I am limited to two comments a day.

I don't think that the fact that a religious symbol is unobtrusive would be grounds for it being constitutionally permissible to erect it on public property. On the other hand, what about a religious symbol that is only religious by definition and otherwise has no religious attributes whatsoever? A bit of metal and a length of string aren't obviously Jewish religious symbols ...more
By highhatsize (2111), East Quogue on Mar 26, 11 11:28 AM
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highhatsize - Thanks for your input, those are indeed some good points.

My family came here almost 400 years ago, and while settling and building the east end no one in they're wildest dreams considered the idea that we were creating a Monster. Trust me, I've felt frustration and anger about how the area "evolved" in general, watching everything about my small culture right down to the accent get taken over and deemed "redneck". It's been incredibly hard feeling like the outsider even ...more
By YesYesBub (58), East Hampton on Mar 26, 11 3:06 PM
it wasn't much of a "utopia" 400 years ago if you were a slave. Yes, Yes, did your family own slaves?
By Steven (113), Westhampton on Mar 26, 11 3:31 PM
Right-on. Good riddense to the snobbish redneck inbred "we were here first" attitude that exists on the east end.
By Brown25 (38), Northwest on Mar 28, 11 9:02 AM
Most likely not. Remember, it's hard to fight billions of dollars in Monopoly money. Even though it was fake, (40 trillion evaporated in a historical instant) it still drove most of the development in the last fifteen years, or so. In Colonial America, profits took precedence over the ideals of liberty and justice. My how things have changed.

If you paid attention in History, you'd know they (slaves) were usually more expensive than the indentured. Unless YesYesBub's ancestors were ...more
Mar 29, 11 11:05 PM appended by Mr. Z
Remember, "indentured" persons were also a viable alternative, to those who OPPOSED slavery. Those type of people did exist back then...
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 28, 11 11:05 PM
Was that a serious question? No. We didn't. Well off families like the Gardiners and some Millers did, but we were independant fishermen, and still are. Not asking for much, just to be able to work, feed others and continue to live modestly. I'm not really understanding how that is somehow a bad thing..?
By YesYesBub (58), East Hampton on Mar 29, 11 9:45 PM
Apparently, living modestly is not the interloper's fashion, in these parts...
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 29, 11 9:51 PM
The term "interloper" is blatantly bigoted. An interloper is defined as a person who becomes involved in a place or situation where they are not wanted or are considered not to belong. It is a term used freely by only the most blatantly racist and bigoted individuals in our society.

However, if you look carefully at part of the definition, I believe it can also apply to someone like Mrs. Z: "1. One that interferes with the affairs of others, often for selfish reasons; a meddler. "
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Mar 30, 11 8:10 AM
And, the "wealthy" who come here, with little, or no regard for the effect they have on the middle class are not selfish?

Those who built up the cost of real estate to astronomical levels, with no thought to the future of the local population, are not selfish?

Those who usurped farmland with their faux wealth, which would be more useful producing corn, or potatoes (especially in our current economy), were not selfish? Or interfered with the freedoms of their fellow Americans, ...more
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Apr 2, 11 9:04 AM
BTW, "If a man thinks he’s going to die tomorrow, he’ll find a way to make it happen, or die trying".

Maybe if you quit looking so hard for bigots, you'd find less of them...
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Apr 2, 11 9:11 AM
Stevens comment to yes yes..... In one word PERFECT !!!!!! Soooooo true.
By Biba (72), East Hampton on Mar 27, 11 12:27 AM
Do you know anything about local history, at all?
By YesYesBub (58), East Hampton on Mar 29, 11 9:50 PM
Perfect comeback'!!!!!!!!.
By Biba (72), East Hampton on Mar 27, 11 12:28 AM
To Adams...why is it when " a segment" of society in the minority would like something "their way" does the majority have a problem with it?
By Infoseeker (85), Hampton Bays on Mar 28, 11 6:45 PM
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Have you really studied what this is?

It's worse than pathetic. It's an end around, so they don't have to abide fully by the laws of their "faith", and they want to use public property to do it.

Grandma always said, "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen".

I became so disgusted with Catholicism, besides the riches, and power used/usurped involving the worship a pauper, I turned to being Agnostic. Upon reading up on all the theology I could lay my hands ...more
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 28, 11 10:34 PM
What in the name of God are you talking about? Each one of your posts on this is more meaningless than the last. Each one more bigoted than the one before. Please, tell us in explicit detail how this eruv would impact your life, not your narrow thinking, but your every day life.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Mar 29, 11 1:11 PM
If you want to use PUBLIC property, for the purposes of your "private club", or religion, I would say that violates public space.

Find me someone here, who doesn't use public utilities, and OK, maybe I'll bend.

Is that simple enough, for you? Or, is the principle still obtuse for you?
Mar 29, 11 8:53 PM appended by Mr. Z
Fancy that, it took just over 24 hours, for the first attempt of a beating...
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 29, 11 8:53 PM
to highhatsize; If you family came here 400 years ago, then took the land from the native americans. Which means they fought and killed them. So how does it feel. Payback is a b...ch.
By patf (2), westhampton beach on Mar 29, 11 10:21 AM
to patf:

You have me confused with another poster. Four hundred years ago my ancestors were squires of a potato plantation in Ireland, importing slaves to cultivate the tubers. (That's how the "Black Irish" came into existence.) Alas, that all ended in the nineteenth century when the root weevil destroyed the potato crop. Buy there is a silver lining to every cloud; they used the inedible potatoes to invent vodka.
By highhatsize (2111), East Quogue on Mar 29, 11 11:14 AM
I thought the Poles, and the Russians slugged that out years ago.

Allegedly, the Russians invented vodka during the latter part of the Dark Ages. From what I've gathered, I have to give it to the Poles. The Russian claim is pretty much the work of a crackpot historian.

However, rye, or potatoes is really the question...
By Mr. Z (6209), North Sea on Mar 29, 11 9:48 PM
this comments section is the BEST !! eveyone all yappin away at each other, always too funny. everyone's right..everyone's wrong yap yap yap love it

change the eruv rules in whatever rule books that need a changin i mean who says you cant do this unless you make a rule saying you can do this TOO BAD WE CANT DO THIS WITH THE DVELOPERS!!!

alas, who was it that said " .. the times they are a changin"

put eruv markers at north & south pole - the world is your eruv.
By david h (313), southampton on Mar 29, 11 12:19 PM
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We don't need Eruv symbols on telephone poles
We don't need catholic rosaries on the poles either
Please don't allow the Methodist church to hang their symbols up.
No Muslim, Protestant, Shinto, or anything else.


By ADAMSG (35), EAST QUOGUE on Mar 30, 11 12:50 PM
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