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Jan 4, 2010 12:40 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

U.S. Representive Tim Bishop details new initiatives

Jan 4, 2010 12:40 PM

U.S. Representative Tim Bishop of Southampton has sponsored a new initiative to extend various tax breaks through next year, an effort, he says, to keep residents of Long Island financially afloat.

Mr. Bishop, who represents the 1st District, said last week that he included provisions in the Tax Extenders Act of 2009 to ensure that residents of Long Island would continue to enjoy deductions in property taxes, education expenses and food donations. Extended benefits include a tax incentive to claim an additional standard deduction for property taxes, if the homeowner does not itemize. A deduction for charitable contributions of book inventories to public schools, as well as corporate contributions of computer equipment for educational purposes were also extended.

“Schools are in need of equipment,” Mr. Bishop said. “This allows families or individuals or corporations to make donations of books or computer equipment.”

Additionally, above-the-line deductions for qualified college tuition and expenses were also extended. Deductions for donations of food will be extended to allow grocery stores, farmers, ranchers, small businesses, restaurateurs and corporations to continue donating food.

Mr. Bishop said Long Island homeowners are in need of property tax deductions during the economic downturn. “These are important provisions for the people I represent,” he said. “Property taxes on Long Island are a huge issue ... This allows them an enhanced deduction.”

The Tax Extenders Act of 2009 overwhelmingly passed in the House of Representatives on December 9 by a vote of 241-181. The act declares that 30 million homeowners will benefit from the property tax relief, with 4.5 million families that will be better able to afford college tuition.

During a conference call with the media on Friday, Mr. Bishop also listed a host of other new initiatives designed to help Long Island towns and villages, and the residents that live in them.

Among them is a Long Island Infrastructure Workshop, which was held on Monday in Brentwood, where 100 local officials came together to discuss creating jobs out of more than $100 million approved transportation dollars for infrastructure projects in the area—money that has yet to be spent.

“It’s basically going to be accessing federal infrastructure funding 101,” Mr. Bishop said on Friday, before the workshop.

Mr. Bishop, along with U.S. Representative James L. Oberstar, who is chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee in the House of Representatives, were unable to attend the workshop due to unforeseen circumstances, but said the goal of the event was to help town and village officials expedite projects that have already been approved “virtually in every town on Long Island.” Some of the projects become stalled due to a lack of a local state match or understanding on how to access the money, Mr. Bishop said.

“Whatever it is, [what] we want to do is provide local government with tools it needs to utilize resources [in the] federal government,” Mr. Bishop said.

Another measure Mr. Bishop is spearheading, along with New York State Senator Charles E. Schumer, would require the Federal Aviation Administration to regulate helicopter traffic on Long Island.

“We believe we have uncovered legal justification for the FAA to regulation helicopter traffic,” Mr. Bishop said.

The initiative follows after a meeting that Mr. Bishop and Mr. Schumer arranged with FAA Administrator Randy Babbit to regulate noisy helicopters that fly low over Long Island communities— particularly on the North Shore.

Mr. Bishop and Mr. Schumer are seeking the FAA to regulate minimum altitudes and mandatory flight paths of helicopters traveling over Long Island and Staten Island communities before the summer of 2010. The move represents the concerns of many residents in the area who have complained about noise from the aircraft.

“Those of us who live in Suffolk County are tired of the roar of helicopters disrupting the serenity of our island,” said Mr. Bishop in a statement on his website. “Although there have been improvements for some communities due to new flight patterns, a significant problem still exists, so it is time for the FAA to take action.”

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Thank you Tim for focusing on the helicopter noise issue. Well done. Now for some action by the FAA and local governments.

In particular IMO, the incoming East Hampton Town Board should re-evaluate the propriety of giving up local control of the East Hampton airport to the FAA.
By PBR (4822), Southampton on Dec 14, 09 5:41 PM
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Perhaps Mr. Bishop could find a way to keep the Federal Government from spending so much borrowed money that he had to vote raise the debt ceiling for more trillions of debt on top of the 12 trillion the Feds already owe. I have an idea. He could stop voting for every spending program Mrs. Pelosi dreams up! Maybe the free enterprise system will get to keep enough money to actually grow and create jobs.
By RichardBlumenthal (24), Westhampton Beach on Dec 14, 09 6:38 PM
Just like the republicans refused to vote for all of Bush's spending, including wars that were fought off the books. You can attempt to revise history all you want, Mr. Blumenthal, but do you have any original thoughts outside of republican talking points?
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Dec 16, 09 2:01 PM
Blumenthal, Free enterprise capitalism is exactly what got us in this economic mess. We know you are a proponent of neocon talking points and that you think that deregulation and tax breaks to the rich are the answers to everything, but that is exactly why your party is out of power and is quickly degenerating into a gaggle of far-right whackos! Evolve.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Dec 16, 09 4:24 PM
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The only thing i see degenerating is hard working Americans quality of life. 10 trillion and counting. Moron or not. Bush is a drop in the bucket to what we are in for. Before you get your Pelosi in an uproar. I'm independant. I think both parties stink. Enjoy your unaccountability do as i say not as i do party. Did you know your man has the LOWEST approval rating in history. 10 months ago he was God. What happened? All the people he lied too to get votes are not happy.
You can fool some of ...more
By double-D (96), southampton on Dec 16, 09 4:51 PM
Wonderful! Mr. Blumenthal makes a brief by pointed and on-topic response to the news story, and the first thing that happens is peoplefirst hauls out one of the worst things he knows to accuse someone of: something "Republican," in this case "talking points."

Then comes Ms. fcmcmann who fills in peoplefirst's usual epithet of choice: "neocon," also adding "talking points" before finishing off her assault with "gaggle of far-right whackos."

I guess I can understand their lack of ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1740), Northampton on Dec 17, 09 9:49 AM
Wrong. Greed got us into this mess. You don't kill the herd because you have a few sick cows. If you are a socialist then wave your flag high, because your views are that of a socialist. Free enterprise built America. Entitlement, government intrusion and laziness will be it's demise. BTW - if someone disagrees with you it doesn't make them a neocon, a whacko or any less evolved than you. It makes them an American with a point of view. You may want to embrace that notion as individuality is actually ...more
By double standard (1506), quogue on Dec 22, 09 10:07 PM
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BTW my prior post was directed towards fcmcmann.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Dec 22, 09 10:16 PM
Frank, have a visit to Blumenthals site and tell me if you see one single idea that is NOT a republican party talking point - after all, you know them as well as anyone.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Jan 2, 10 7:13 PM
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Don't feel left out, Frank. You are one of the top geese in that gaggle. By the way, talk about "bitter" - don't worry, I am sure ole W still appreciates your blind obedience to a failed ideology.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jan 3, 10 11:05 AM
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What planet is this guy from. He has voted for cap and tax, health care reform, porkulus, increasing the debt cap and now he wants to give various tax breaks to people on Long Island. This guy needs to take an accounting 101 class. On a positive Bishop note I do like the restriction on aircraft flying paterns and noise. I guess his high end donors are wispering in his ear on that one
By razza5350 (1867), East Hampton on Dec 14, 09 7:49 PM
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You need to check the record, friend. Today's fiscal mess comes from an unfunded war in Iraq, a spend-happy previous GOP Congress that blew the healthy surplus left by Bill Clinton in 2001 and a Wall Street loving President Bush who took his eye off the ball and left us an economy in shambles.

Bishop has been attentive to local needs, the plight of those without health insurance and seniors who are struggling to survive in this horrible economy.
By JimmyKBond (151), Hampton Bays on Dec 14, 09 9:01 PM
I guess i was misinformed when i read that the Clinton administration originally " softened the standards to borrow " from government mortgage lenders thus starting the snow ball effect. The bamks who borrowed money have it nearly paid back. That was quick. That was Bush right? Well my friend the housing industry is still screwed with no end in sight. And that was not Bush. It was a couple years previous. The last time Government tried unaccountable hand outs.Stupid Bush followed Bill's stupid ...more
By double-D (96), southampton on Dec 17, 09 8:15 PM
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this guy is in lock step with the Leaders of Congress. We need to throw throw" the ins out" and put the " outs in". These folks are destroying our country. Let's take it back in 2010. Enough ecnomic quakery !!
By blue duck (8), southold on Dec 15, 09 10:33 AM
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Do you all remember last year??? Our counrty was faced with economic ruin! It was going to be as bad as the Great Depression. The monies spent by the federal government averted that economic disaster. Did you want the government to do nothing?? They saved our country.
It is bad, real bad but it is the economic situation that was inherited from the Bush administration.

Thank you Congressman Bishop for again standing up for the people of the East end.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Dec 15, 09 7:31 PM
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The monies spent by the federal government did not "avert" an economic disaster- all it did was delay it. These tactics were only good for a short term "stimulus" of the economy, which worked, but in reality this just kicks the can further on down the line (probably for someone else to deal with) Watch how everyone who still is throwing Bush under the bus will refuse to do so with Obama when he leaves office in an even worse economic situation.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Dec 26, 09 4:48 AM
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Thank you Congressman Bishop for being part of the solution.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Dec 16, 09 2:03 PM
It would be nice if Mr. Bishop would try to do something to help local fisherman both recreational and commercial recieve a fair share of the resource. Alas he is too busy picking lobster out of his teeth in a fine Washington restaurant.
By montaukman (98), easthampton on Dec 17, 09 12:51 PM
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JimmyKBond and SHNative have it right. Tim Bishop works hard for his constituents, and if it turns out that he works especially hard for those constutuents who need it more, like seniors and uninsured people, good for him, despite the fact that this annoys those who are privileged and unwilling to help those who aren't.

As it happens, Frank Wheeler has it right, too -- unusually -- as regards the name-calling in response to RichardBlumenthal's comment. Note, however, that he doesn't try ...more
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Dec 17, 09 1:05 PM
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Mr. Bishop is committed to voting for the Federal Health Care Plan, Cap and Trade, supporting Acorn with our tax dollars, and for Federal Legislation for Union Card Check(which will remove the right for employees to have a secret ballot). This man ran Southhampton College into the ground which apparently qualifies him to be a US Congressman.
By blue duck (8), southold on Dec 17, 09 5:10 PM
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Acorn? Come on, blue duck, how about dropping the party talking points and focusing on real issues. By the way, there are a great number of us who support health care reform, unions and cap and trade.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Jan 2, 10 7:11 PM
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May I add blue duck, that he also voted to lift the ban on late term abortions. which is murder!!
By bayview (148), Southampton on Dec 17, 09 5:18 PM
Abortion is legal in this country and late term abortions are often performed to save the life of the mother.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jan 4, 10 11:21 AM
May I add blue duck, that he also voted to lift the ban on late term abortions. which is murder!!
By bayview (148), Southampton on Dec 17, 09 5:18 PM
Wow...blue duck! You forgot to blame the debt, Illegal immigration and climate change on him as well. :)
Bishop is an effective Congressman, and we are lucky to have him as our representative.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Dec 18, 09 8:05 PM
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The only thing Bishop is effective at is spending our hard earned tax payers dollars and yes you can blame him for the debt. He approves every spending bill out there. DUMP BISHOP
By razza5350 (1867), East Hampton on Dec 18, 09 8:30 PM
razza...see my post above...As in "Do you remember last year?"

Also, remember that most of our debt came from the Bush administration.
Were you this zealous against an unjust war in Iraq which cost more than a trillion dollars and 4000+ American lives?

Tim Bishop is an effective Congressman and we are lucky to have him as our representative.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Dec 18, 09 10:35 PM
debt has grown 3 fold under Obama, House and senate were controlled by dems during Bush's last term and last time I checked we are dumping more troops into Afganistan. In fact our troop level is higher than since 03. Where are the dissent is patriotic people on that one.
By razza5350 (1867), East Hampton on Dec 19, 09 8:58 PM
well, of course, your information is inaccurate. The GOP controlled Congress for six of Bush's 8 years. They are, today, a party in shambles because they walked away from conservative principles and spent the country into the poorhouse. If you care, check the facts, pal. It is "sweet" to be partisan but when you are wrong on your information you just sound silly.
By Oshaunnessey (11), Westhampton on Dec 20, 09 10:54 AM
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There is a terrific non-partisan book about the history of federal spending. Deficit spending has been a bi-partisan approach to government for 30 years.

Don't bother to reference the Clinton interlude when we had increased tax revenues during the dot.com bubble. (Not picking on Pres. Clinton, just anticipating common response I have heard.)

Debt that our children and grandchildren will pay is still debt. That is true whether you chest thumping hawk that spends on wars,

or ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Dec 21, 09 2:34 PM
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Well that is true, Oshaunnessey, the Bush administration did spend us into the poorhouse. But, that being the case, Obama's first year (which is not over yet) has burned down that house entirely. What are we to do when both parties fail us in this manner, and won't allow us more than these two options come election time? They have seized power from those who they claim have all of it (the voters) and are simply unwilling to listen to their constituents.

You like to use the term "partisan" ...more
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Dec 26, 09 4:26 AM
Let's see hear. He is helping the poor and uninsured by regulating noise from helicopters? Does anybody on this blog think that if someone is having a problem feeding their family, or paying for medical attention for an elderly family member, that they care about a millionaire's commute out to the east end causing them 30 seconds of noise?

Mr Bishop is looking out for the big donors for his war chest, and it'll work. Unfortunately, his constituents on the east end who need his help more ...more
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Dec 19, 09 1:30 AM
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huh? totally illogical from a partisan.
By Oshaunnessey (11), Westhampton on Dec 20, 09 10:57 AM
Chuck Schumar to the FAA regarding this matter, in a meeting along with Tim Bishop to FAA officials, "low-flying helicopters have tortured and tormented Long Island communities for far too long"

That's a bit dramatic, no?
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Dec 19, 09 3:17 AM
Not when they are repeatedly going over your retired parent's house to low.
By fix-it-now (216), sag harbor on Dec 19, 09 3:30 AM
If Tim wants to help with quality of life issues he can stop the coffee shops like the one in the shopping cove in Sag Harbor from venting that horrible nausiating smell that dominates main street. Now there is a relentless problem. Helicopters come and go. That stink is constant.
By double-D (96), southampton on Dec 25, 09 3:22 PM
Never heard mom complain. But maybe she'll start to after she finally does retire.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Dec 19, 09 4:41 AM
Bishop has let down the people in his district that actually work for a living, especially those that own a business. His supporters are either independantly wealthy or sucking on the govt teat, there's no other logical explanation why anyone could possibly agree with his voting to destroy the economy.
By bigfresh (3085), north sea on Dec 21, 09 6:16 PM
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Ideology tastes rather bitter when you are standing on the unemployment line. Bishop is a failure as are most of our "representatives." At some point we have to actually do something and stop asking the government to hold our hands. I guess this post makes me a "neo-con" or "right wing wacko" because I believe in free markets and hard work. But hey, I'm sure Mr. Bishop, Mr. Schumer and the Pelosi / Reid gang know what is better for me than I do.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Dec 22, 09 9:57 PM
Mr. Bishop should join with Senators Gilibrand and Schumer to plan the replacement of the three outmoded Alliance hospitals with a central, efficient, state-of-the-art facility. That is, a new medical center that will survive the transition to national health insurance and provide continuing employment to thousands of East Enders.
By highhatsize (3361), East Quogue on Dec 22, 09 2:07 AM
And how do you propose Timmy does that? The hospitals are privately owned. The health care reform plan will cost NY state in excess of 1.5 billion and NY is bankrupt. To bad Chucky or Timmy arent looking out for their constiuents. If they were they could have brokered a deal like they got in Nebraska, Nh or Mass. Maybe they can add a little more pork to the "reform package" to build it
By razza5350 (1867), East Hampton on Dec 22, 09 8:12 PM
Wow, thanks for the reminder that Tim is responsible for the debt, climate change, and illegal immigration...however , I dont like to pile on! I would be happy if he voted NO on the current Pelosi - Reid agenda across the board. Is this the change we were promised? It's beginning to look a lot like just more of the same. liberal agenda ....spending and taxing , but with a gusto never seen before.
By blue duck (8), southold on Dec 23, 09 5:02 PM
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Who creates the laws and programs in our country . Does the house of reps create or write something and then the senate agrees to it and then the president signs it and its official ?
By crankinstein (10), southampton on Jan 2, 10 5:12 PM
AGAIN....
Do you all remember last year??? Our counrty was faced with economic ruin! It was going to be as bad as the Great Depression. The monies spent by the federal government averted that economic disaster. Did you want the government to do nothing?? They saved our country.
It is bad, real bad but it is the economic situation that was inherited from the Bush administration.

Thank you Congressman Bishop for again standing up for the people of the East end.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Jan 2, 10 7:19 PM
AGAIN....
The monies spent by the federal government did not "avert" an economic disaster- all it did was delay it. These tactics were only good for a short term "stimulus" of the economy, which worked, but in reality this just kicks the can further on down the line (probably for someone else to deal with) Watch how everyone who still is throwing Bush under the bus will refuse to do so with Obama when he leaves office in an even worse economic situation.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Jan 3, 10 12:31 AM
If Obama was to say, at this point in time, that an economic disaster has been averted that would be the equivilant of Bush claiming "mission accomplished" in Iraq. Obama will not do that, he's seen what type of criticism comes with overplaying ones hand. Obama will keep saying in interviews and addresses that the econmy is recovering greatly, but this is just an attempt at a placibo effect. Sooner or later, real steps will need to be taken to correct the problem-- not just saying that there ...more
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Jan 3, 10 1:06 AM
Where is your evidence that the stimulus did not avert economic disaster? Bush destroyed the economy and after only one year you all want to pretend as though he never existed. Guess what, you lost the election.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jan 3, 10 11:07 AM
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You want proof that the stimulus did not avert economic disaster? How about double-digit unemployment, the falling value of the U.S. dollar, and a national deficit that we will never be able to catch up to. I didn't say that Bush was not responsible for alot of this, what I was trying to drive home is that Obama (and Congress) is sprinting towards the opposite direction which we should be moving.

P.S. The guy I voted for IS in office, so I don't know what you mean when you say that I ...more
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Jan 4, 10 12:46 AM
Economic disaster was upon us! General electric could not get short term loans to cover expenses. Bear Sterns went under. We were looking at a collapse of our economy. Peoples life savings were in jeopardy. Our government had to act, and they did. Now all of you folks on the far right are going to blame the financial mess and the debt on a president who has been in office for a year....who averted or delayed and economic disaster

By the way....What are the Real steps to which you refer? ...more
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Jan 3, 10 11:22 AM
Peoples life savings are no longer in jeopardy? Are you kidding me? The U.S. dollar will be worth nothing in a few years due to inflation caused by this administration printing money as it sees fit.

The "Real steps" to which I was referring, SHNative, was to stop spending money on all of those ridiculous pork projects, and than hiding them under the guise of economic stimulus. These projects offer minimal, if any, stimulus to the economy. If we didn't allow our money to be spent on ...more
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Jan 4, 10 1:13 AM
The stimulus averting disaster let me see.... our country is 10 trillion in debt , we pay 1 billion a day for interest on that debt , our financials for the coming year are 1 to 1.5 trillion more debt , every few months the idiots in washington vote to raise the amount of increased debt we can go into , real unemployment and under employment is around 15-18 % , they think we can spend our way out of this depression , the democrats have controlled congress for 4 friggin years and have us in a dangerous ...more
By crankinstein (10), southampton on Jan 3, 10 6:34 PM
You are trying to rewrite history. The surplus was created during the Clinton administration not Newt Gingrich. Dems have controlled congress for 4 years? Try under three. The dems had to spend us out of a disaster created by Bush and trillions of dollars of tax cuts to the rich. Funny how the people most screwed over by republicans are always their most ardent supporters.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jan 3, 10 8:48 PM
Are you stupid , naive or just a plain ol liberal . Look at the bills , over 10,000,000,000,000 in debt , were going into debt trillions more each year., with huge spending programs on the horizon , absolutely nothing on the table to expand real jobs for real hard working americans , ( maybe make some phony government jobs so i can now watch 6 people doing a 2 man job instead of the usual 4 people). You must have misunderstood my point , the republicans and democrats no longer serve us , they serve ...more
By crankinstein (10), southampton on Jan 4, 10 7:35 AM
Yes, you keep calling names and avoiding the facts. That is exactly why your party has become a haven for birthers and tea baggers.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jan 4, 10 11:23 AM
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FLASH TO THE LUNATIC LEFT:!!!!!!! YOU CAN NOT SPEND YOUR WAY OUT OF DEBT!! Tax cuts create more revenue due to increased economic growth. Carry on.
By bigfresh (3085), north sea on Jan 4, 10 7:37 AM
Flash to the teabag fringe!!!! Tax cuts to the rich is exactly why we ARE in this situation that is why the government must SPEND to stimulate growth. Do you know how much money was lost during the Bush administration? 2 Trillion dollars in tax breaks to the rich, not the middle class, not the working man. Tell me how you benefited from that? Trickle down does not work.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jan 4, 10 11:25 AM
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"spend your way out of debt" Ha ha ha.
By razza5350 (1867), East Hampton on Jan 4, 10 9:17 AM
I'm so glad that Obama is not like the "BUSH ADMINISTRATION" otherwise he might be giving hundreds of billions to the rich bankers and insurance companies , or he might do something stupid like authorizing sending 30,000 additional troops to war or he might do something so horrible like the patriot act of the BUSH ADMINISTRATION that all the liberals whined about or he might increase the deficit 3 fold ...... but wait it's reality time he has done all this and all in less than a year.
By crankinstein (10), southampton on Jan 4, 10 6:22 PM
Not sure what planet you're from, but here in the real world trickle down works, and works well. In our area we are blessed with an economy that runs on trickle down. Every single carpenter, electrician, roofer, painter, real estate agent, landscaper , gardener and interior deecorator and those who own these businesses are successful due to trickle down. I experienced strong growth in my business last year, and next year looks better, Who do you think creates jobs and business opportunities? It ...more
By bigfresh (3085), north sea on Jan 5, 10 4:45 PM
Trickle down works? That is why the gap between rich and poor is the largest since the great depression? How do you explain bankers and wall street making millions while nationwide unemployment is at 10% - is that because trickle down works? Has trickle down saved millions of families from foreclosure? Is the middle class virtually extinct because of the success of trickle down?

By the way, you know who creates 80% of ALL jobs - not the rich, small business owners.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Jan 5, 10 4:59 PM
Trickle down works? That is why the gap between rich and poor is the largest since the great depression? How do you explain bankers and wall street making millions while nationwide unemployment is at 10% - is that because trickle down works? Has trickle down saved millions of families from foreclosure? Is the middle class virtually extinct because of the success of trickle down?
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Jan 5, 10 4:59 PM
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How about true economic reform? No government handouts for rich or poor. You make a bad decision, live with it. Make a bad loan, take out a bad loan, deal with it. You build a home on the beach? You're an idiot, better have a boat, life jacket and some oars.

The premise that we need moneylenders or a powerful government are antithetical to origins of this nation. This is not to say short term, temporary credit is bad, or that government which performs some basic functions isn't a good ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 6, 10 8:34 AM
Trickle down Absolutely works , Bankers and wall street just received hundreds of billions of handout from the fed govt . Millions of people are being foreclosed on because they borrowed more than they could pay back. The fed govt basically forced the big banks to offer loans to people who could not make the payments and the greedy bakers were all to happy to weasel up all these crazy products to load their pockets and now it's time to pay the price for greed and stupidity . The very wealthy will ...more
By crankinstein (10), southampton on Jan 6, 10 8:47 AM
And who is it that the small businesses service in our neck of the woods???!! It's the wealthy! Why do you want to clost the gap between rich and poor, isn't it up to those not making a satisfactory living to better themselves? Why bring the successful down, bring the less successfull up! If you are jealous of someone elses financial position, get off your can and work harder, get more education or start your own business. Class envy is one of the pillars of liberalism and liberalism is a failed ...more
By bigfresh (3085), north sea on Jan 6, 10 8:51 AM
Wow. This posting is perfect evidence of the new republican party extremism. The only group less trusted than dems and the president - republicans.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Jan 7, 10 9:43 AM
crankinstein, bigfresh, and the rest of the teabaggers on this site, are typical republican dittoheads. "Class envy?" Give me a break. You guys have been used by the republican party to promote the interests of corporations. The saddest part is that you right-wing extremists have no idea you are fighting against your own best interests.
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Jan 6, 10 10:15 AM
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care to rebutt the facts in my post? Eg. our economy runs on trickle down, the wealthy create jobs or unemployment is high because of uncertainty due to BHO's policies?
By bigfresh (3085), north sea on Jan 6, 10 12:44 PM
Glady, Mr. Teabagger, let's start here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/business/12scene.html

How about this? http://www.faireconomy.org/research/TrickleDown.html

Of course I already know how you anti-intellectual, right-wingers respond to any facts - you simply call them "liberal" or question the source so how about this one from the ultra-conservative Wall Street Journal http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/06/30/trickle-down-economics-fails-to-deliver-as-promised

Wake ...more
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Jan 6, 10 1:11 PM
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nice attitude, read my question please. I asked about OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. We live in a unique area here, want to take a crack at it in that light?
By bigfresh (3085), north sea on Jan 6, 10 1:24 PM
Read the articles, they are not region specific. Trickle down is a fallacy no matter where you live.
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Jan 6, 10 2:14 PM
Then please explain, if you can, the plethora of succesful businesses in our community that exist only because of wealthy, part time residents.
By bigfresh (3085), north sea on Jan 6, 10 3:40 PM
I know a lot of contractors and small business owners out here who would be the first to tell you that, despite the great success of the wealthy wall streeters and bankers, they are experiencing one of the worst years in over a decade.

There will always be some that do well even in the worst economies, but, again, trickle down is not the answer and, again, it does not work.
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Jan 6, 10 5:03 PM
You call us the anti intellectuals, I believe it would be the s o called intellectuals in who have run our country into at least 12 trillion in debt ( never will be able to pay it back) I think they have educated our school system into the stupidness falling behind other nations from where we once were, i believe they invented all the nuclear weapons and military weaponry to kill everyone on the planet , you would think they would be smart enough to feed the starving homeless people of the world ...more
By crankinstein (10), southampton on Jan 6, 10 10:07 PM
Then enlighten me please, in your opinion, what makes the economy in our area tick. Quality will always rise to the top.
By bigfresh (3085), north sea on Jan 6, 10 8:31 PM
In true liberal fashion you have shown yourself to be a bitter nay sayer with nothing to add to the discussion but the usual talking points and personal insults. Trickle down works, in the real world, thank GOD!
By bigfresh (3085), north sea on Jan 7, 10 8:40 AM
Excuse me, bigfresh, but I offered actual FACTS, not talking points. I quoted the conservative rag Wall Street Journal. You just keep spouting "Trickle down" "Trickle Down" and have no real idea what that economic philosophy really means. You right wingers always want to talk about "bitter liberals". I am not bitter, I am simply sick and tired of teabaggers speaking from their _____ instead of using their brains. You asked me to rebut facts, I did so. Your anti-intellectual babble helps ...more
By yearrounder (208), Southampton on Jan 7, 10 9:39 AM
Again, what makes our LOCAL econmoy tick, if not trickle down from our wealthy part time residents?
By bigfresh (3085), north sea on Jan 7, 10 9:50 AM
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bigfresh you will never change her opnion. Its not even worth trying to explain your position. She is a typical big gvt, more entitlements, more taxes,anti pvt sector socialist liberal. If Obama told her the world were flat she would believe it.
By razza5350 (1867), East Hampton on Jan 11, 10 10:08 PM
here are some teabag facts for you yearrounder


(1) Intra state competition
(2) Tort reform
(3) Strong illegal immigration enforcement

Do those 3 things watch the cost of health care drop like a stone.

reaganomics works!

this bogus health-care reform is going to destroy us ...and then when we are like France you will be happy. God help us!


By joe hampton (2970), south hampton on Jan 12, 10 2:25 AM
Thank you Massachussets for firing the shot hear around the world at Concord.... and thanks for monday... this time it was fired in a voting booth, and it was heard in washington, D.C. !
By blue duck (8), southold on Jan 21, 10 1:43 PM
Amen....Blue Duck, Amem
By joe hampton (2970), south hampton on Jan 22, 10 9:07 AM
Remnants, area rugs, rolls in stock