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Sep 15, 2010 11:14 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Altschuler will face Bishop in November

Sep 15, 2010 11:14 AM

The race to represent Eastern Long Island in the U.S. House of Representatives is now set.

Randy Altschuler, a business owner from St. James, secured both the Republican and Conservative party lines in hard-fought primary elections on Tuesday, making him the official candidate for both parties.

Mr. Altschuler, 39, will now go on to face U.S. Representative Tim Bishop of Southampton, the Democratic incumbent, on Election Day on November 2. Mr. Bishop, who is also endorsed by the Independence Party, is seeking his fifth term in Congress representing the 1st District, which spans most of Suffolk County.

As the polls closed Tuesday night, Mr. Altschuler maintained a solid lead over his opponents, Chris Cox of Westhampton Beach and George Demos of Ronkonkoma. At the end of the night, unofficial Board of Elections results showed that Mr. Altschuler had won 45 percent of the 23,300 Republican votes, or 10,531 votes. Mr. Demos received 31 percent, or 7,162 votes, and Mr. Cox came in last with 24 percent, or 5,634 votes.

“Tonight, Republican voters sent a resounding message rolling through the 1st Congressional District,” Mr. Altschuler said in a prepared statement released after his victory Tuesday night. “It is a message that we will continue to carry through all the way to November. The voters chose me because I am one of them; raising my family right here in Suffolk County and worrying about what the future will hold for my son.”

Mr. Altschuler, a first-time candidate whose name was the only one to appear on the Conservative ballot, managed to win only 60 percent of the 2,200 Conservative votes, or 1,328 votes, according to unofficial results Tuesday night. Write-in candidates, who could include Mr. Cox, Mr. Demos or others, won the remaining 40 percent, or 895 votes.

Conservative leaders chose Mr. Altschuler as their candidate in April, but Mr. Cox, who had the backing of a Suffolk County Tea Party organization, won a legal challenge in August that forced the Conservative primary, and allowed himself and Mr. Demos to run as write-in candidates.

The three hopefuls waged fierce primary campaigns against each other this summer. By securing both the Republican and Conservative lines, Mr. Altschuler, who described himself as a political “outsider,” ensured that the opposition to Mr. Bishop will not be split in November—a situation that would likely have been a boon to the incumbent.

Mr. Altschuler, a self-professed conservative who opposes any tax increases, has said that job creation is at the top of his priority list. In a press release on Tuesday night, Mr. Altschuler said Mr. Bishop and the rest of the Democrats who now hold the majority of seats in Congress have “failed,” and said it was time for him and his supporters to “take our government back.”

“It’s time that we send that tax and spend liberal Tim Bishop packing,” he said. “And, it’s time we send his boss and benefactor, Nancy Pelosi, packing, too.”

Mr. Altschuler, a millionaire, outraised both his primary opponents—and, so far, his general election opponent as well, according to campaign finance records. He threw in $2 million of his own money and raised another $800,000 from individuals. When donations from political action committees and other proceeds are taken into account, his total war chest has risen to $2.9 million as of the end of the last filing period on August 25.

Mr. Bishop has raised $1.9 million so far, almost entirely from individuals and political action committees.

Mr. Altschuler grew up in Manhattan and moved to St. James three years ago, where he lives with his wife, Cheryl, a doctor, and his 3-year-old son, Noah. He holds degrees from Princeton and Harvard Business School and currently owns his own startup business, CloudBlue, which is based in Georgia and recycles electronics.

Another company Mr. Altschuler used to own, the outsourcing firm Office Tiger, which he started in 2000 and sold in 2006, proved to be a target for his rivals in the primaries. On Tuesday night, with the primary results still fresh, Mr. Bishop’s campaign was already harping on Office Tiger in a press release, calling Mr. Altschuler an “outsourcing pioneer” who “got rich shipping American jobs to India.”

“While Tim Bishop has a united party behind him, a strong record of accomplishment throughout his native Suffolk County, and the support of major organizations including the Independence Party … Altschuler faces a fractured Republican Party, the majority of which voted against him on primary day,” Mr. Bishop’s campaign wrote. “On top of his unpopularity within his own party, Altschuler has been working hard to deny his outsourcing ties to Suffolk County residents, but he has left behind plenty of evidence of his past.”

In an interview in August, Mr. Altschuler responded to criticisms of Office Tiger by saying the company created 500 jobs in the United States, and CloudBlue employs about 250 people. The candidate also said he was a member of the Green Party from 2000 to 2002—a fact that also drew flak from his primary opponents. He said he later realized his ideals were more in line with that of the Republican Party.

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So, when will Albany be outsourced?
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 14, 10 11:03 PM
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By uncleronk (136), southold on Sep 16, 10 9:25 AM
I'm Randy Altschuler and I approve of Mr Zs message
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 12:07 AM
Congratulations Carl Paladino who beat that phony Lazio & Christine O'Donnell who upset Rep. Mike Castle in the Delaware Republican Senate primary tonight, handing the tea party movement a major victory
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 12:17 AM
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The dems would like to thank the voters of Delaware and New York and all teapartiers everywhere for giving us these two November victories!
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Sep 15, 10 7:49 AM
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yipppeeee
By littleplains (305), olde england on Sep 15, 10 3:33 PM
Mr Altshuler What are you going to do for Suffolk COunty and the Towns and Villages! What are you going to bring back home!! I m tired of hearing about funding going to regional projects Main St needs money!!
By North Sea Citizen (454), North Sea on Sep 15, 10 6:38 AM
How about taking less to DC to begin with?
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 4:32 PM
Another outsider thinks he can represent the 1st District? what can he possibly know about the Bays and the Ocean front? What does he know about The East End? Go for proven Representative Tim Bishop. He is our best hope in Washington, DC. Kathy's a good asset too!
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Sep 15, 10 7:47 AM
What has Bishop dome other than take direction from the DNC and Hollywood via East Hampton?
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 9:19 AM
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Tim knows how to vote at least. Which ever way Princess Pelosi tells him. We need a rep with back bone.
By Draggerman (688), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 6:04 PM
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Paladino?! Thank you Dick's Army, the AstroTurf-funded corporate shills, for voting against your own best interests and ensuring that Andrew Cuomo will be able to follow in the footsteps of one of this country's greatest democratic leaders of all time, his father!

And thank you to all the local tea drinkers for giving us the gift of Randy Altschuler! Congratulations, Tim!

And lastly, to the angry-white voter of Delaware for voting for the anti-self-love whacko O'Donnell! ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 8:09 AM
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Oh dear, cant have a whacko as Senator from Delaware, might become Vice President someday
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 9:41 AM
The Press News Group is really showing their true colors here. A post filled with vile, race specific slurs, thinly guised "ironic" vulgarities, and ad hominem attacks is kept in the comments section, but a post pointing out that this is inappropriate "name calling" is deleted.

Print ads have been getting my company fewer and fewer responses anyway. I think it's time for my company to stop bothering with the SHP all together.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 15, 10 10:12 AM
You mean ad hominem attacks like

"Peoplefirst is the exceptionally noxious type of liberal who wraps their own bigotry in the cloak of simple minded political correctness."?

Or how about this "As a hardcore leftist along the lines of Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro I understand that the truth is simply disregarded . . ." Recognize them?

You see, my post, unlike yours, is NOT a direct attack on any poster on these boards, but a direct response to the article and last night's ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 10:46 AM
Every politician and party is funded by big corporations in some way
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 11:13 AM
"Dick's Army,"

"rethugs"

"The teaparty has officially swallowed the Republican party!"

All sophmoric liberal name calling, and as I can use a laugh this morning, please continue pretend you didn't actually mean to infer anything vulgar.

As to the rest of your post, thanks for reminding me that Hugo Chavez's brand of free speech and opposition crushing socialism is precisely what you'd like to emulate here.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 15, 10 11:48 AM
This is what I would define as an ad hominem attack on an individual poster
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 12:13 PM
Dream on
By 27dan (2146), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 4:14 PM
ALMOST the entire lot of them work for their own interests, the people be damned.

Just get over it...
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 15, 10 9:07 PM
But don't take my word for it - have a read at what the conservative Washington Post has to say this mornng: "Tea party wins in northeastern primaries could bode well for Democrats" http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/14/AR2010091402465.html
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 8:18 AM
Does the WP editorial board have a crystal ball?
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 11:03 AM
Its wonderful to see you so hysterical
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 4:17 PM
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By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 15, 10 8:18 AM
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By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Sep 15, 10 9:11 AM
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By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 15, 10 9:50 AM
I predict Altschuler will beat Bishop. We need new young blood in our government.
By housewife (72), east hampton on Sep 15, 10 9:03 AM
For all of you predicting disaster for Tea Party backed Republicans in the general election, so be it. I want a Republican candidate who is fiscally conservative and can distinguish him/herself from the Dem opponent. No RINOs have been able to beat Bishop, and Lazio would just be a Pataki retread and nearly the same fiscal disaster as that half witted Cuomo jr
If the republican party is not going to be a conservative party, whats the point? If they loose as conservatives, they cant share the ...more
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 9:39 AM
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So you'll support a candidate, regardless of their ability or qualifications, so long as you can send a message to the republican establishment? Even if that means keeping control in the hands of democrats? May I call you friend?
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 10:14 AM
In short yes, for long term gains as indicated, because that control wont last when they dont have RINOS to spread the blame to.
What BTW is the objective criteria for ability and qualifications? Being a career politician? Law degree? Look where that got us. The founding fathers foresaw a citizen legislature. Who is to say Altshuler is less qualifies than Cox. Frankly I'd like to see a guy like Stuart Vorpahl for first district who probably doesn't have college degree but has a world of common ...more
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 10:28 AM
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I have to say, smacw, I do admire your conviction to your beliefs, even if I don't share them.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 10:52 AM
Appreciate that, and judging by your other posts I think you are rooting for Republican losses in November anyway. I hope you are wrong because your guys along with so called "moderate" Republicans have been leading us in to a fiscal trainwreck that only keeps getting worse. The only solution to which is cutting and restraining spending. Raising taxes will never cover the current shortfall unless you go after he middle classes as well as the "rich" and in turn thoroughly tank the economy. Ultimately ...more
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 11:12 AM
Wasn't it Thomas Jefferson who was concerned corporations would become the next aristocracy?
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 15, 10 9:08 PM
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I was really glad to see the dems give Rangel the nod again. quality choice.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 15, 10 9:51 AM
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Thats good, he'll loose his committees to the new majority and just be farting in to his oversized chair for 2 more years while (hopefully) fighting tax evasion charges. Not as if any Republican would ever get elected from that district so a defanged Dem is the best possible outcome.
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 10:19 AM
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Most importanat thing here is Randy won the conservative and GOP line. It will be Randy vs Timmy and no one to split votes.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 15, 10 9:53 AM
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I don't think Altschuler can beat Bishop. I don't see him as such a profoundly superior candidate to oust an incumbent.
The Repubs / Conservatives need to look really hard at who they are vs. what the people are asking for. Fiscal responsibility and moderation on social issues would more than likely grab a lot of independents. Sorry, but the Palin types of the world offer those of us on the fence absolutely nothing.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Sep 15, 10 10:34 AM
We shall see come Novemeber if what you "think" is correct or not.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 15, 10 10:52 AM
Razza this is not a challenge but an opinion. I'm no fan of Bishop. In all of these board discussions all I read is us vs. you, and the dems are horrible, Bush gave tax breaks to the rich and on and on it goes. I really don't care. Give me something to vote for is all I ask. As far as bragging rights go I'll leave that to the nuts that pledge blind allegiance to either side. After all, it's working out so well.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Sep 15, 10 11:00 AM
Double I too am entitled to an opinion. Have you checked the anti incumbancy mood lately? Have you visited the local coffee shop and asked anyone what they think of Bishop (even you don't like him). I honestly think any of these canidtaes could beat Bishop. To say that Altshuler can't beat Bishop when the race hasnt even begun yet is just preposterous. Thats not a challenge but just my opinion.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 15, 10 11:39 AM
Who said you weren't entitled to an opinion? I'm not in the habit of asking strangers at coffee shops what their political views are. They'd probably think I was a little nutty. Sort of like that loon that stands in front of the post office with the Impeach Obama sign.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Sep 15, 10 12:11 PM
This guy Altschuler made his money shipping American jobs to India, right? Forget about it.
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on Sep 15, 10 10:48 AM
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The jobs Americans don't want to do. Yea, lets open a call center on Mariner Drive to employ all those local college grads who want to move back to the East End. I think they would rather be real estate brokers.

Bishops record on raising taxes/destroying jobs is well documented
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 11:01 AM
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smacw, you say when a conservative candidate ships jobs to India they are "jobs Americans don' want to do", but when immigrants come to clean bathrooms, pick crops, and weed gardens are you one who asserts they are stealing jobs from Americans?
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 11:48 AM
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Stop your deceptive and emotive use of the term "immigrants", when it's ILLEGAL aliens that are the issue.

How about the roofers, masons, and carpenters who were formerlly paid middle class wages and now on the unemployment lines becuase cash only illegals can undercut their wages primarily by tax avoidance?

You're so teary eyed over the wondrous "browning" of America that you've become a shill for those who would drive down the living standards to something more akin to our friends ...more
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 15, 10 11:58 AM
yet another ad hominem attack against an individual poster
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 12:12 PM
More jobs native born Americans wont do, so don't put words in my mouth please.
Altshuler has also created hundreds of domestic jobs, not to mention value for his shareholders, investors, and customers. Were still a capitalist country (I hope).
Bishop is just a job destroyer via taxes and bad policy he supports, while he luxuriates in a grand home on Wooley Street purchased with money inherited from selling farmland to developers. Not that I'm necessarily against the latter, just that his ...more
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 3:00 PM
Please explain to me what is the difference between outsourcing jobs to non-American citizens in India because they earn pennies on the dollar and hiring undocumented workers here is the U.S.? There is no difference. None and it is beyond hypocritical to assert otherwise.

The only important thing about Tim Bishop's address is that he lives HERE, in our community.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 5:11 PM
"Please explain to me what is the difference between outsourcing jobs to non-American citizens in India because they earn pennies on the dollar and hiring undocumented workers here is the U.S.? There is no difference. None and it is beyond hypocritical to assert otherwise."

If there is no difference, then why do you and your fellow leftists support illegal aliens working in our communities but are outraged at jobs being outsourced? As you said "There is no difference. None and it is beyond ...more
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 15, 10 8:38 PM
But then why, peoplefirst, do you (oh so strongly) support the hiring of illegal immigrants yet you criticize outsourcing jobs, while at the same time claim in your own words that they are exactly the same, there is no difference? You can't have it both ways just because it suits your argument. The claim that the immigrants don't take jobs away from citizens that want them is totally false and you know it. For the record, I don't support outsourcing jobs either. Both practices are tools used ...more
By teachourkids (36), southampton on Sep 15, 10 10:29 PM
Let's hear it for Captn America, a charter member of the Lizard Club, the people who fly the funny yellow flag with the lizard or whatever on it. Now before you go telling me it's the Gadsden flag and has a very honorable history, let me tell you that I know all that, and I wouldn't be mocking this flag if it hadn't been hijacked by you and your over-the-top tea bagger outfit. In fact, New York law forbids the use of the national flag as an emblem of a political organization, and it's a shame ...more
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Sep 16, 10 2:34 PM
You know what I think?

The 1099 form is the absolute greatest haven tor illegal immigrants, especially when certain other documents collect dust in a drawer.

Eliminate the 1099 for more stringent filing policy, and you WILL see illegal participation in our workforce drop like a stone.
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 16, 10 5:14 PM
Great day for the people today! We do not want the establishment RINOs in office. We only want folks who are going to reverse the course of this administration - and YESTERDAY! If Altschuler is as bad for us as you all say, then Bishop will have no problem. But methinks your attacks and noise mask your fear. And if so, you are more wise that we give you credit for. The issues are simple Bishop voted for Obamacare, Stimulus 1, Stimulus 2, His vote moved Cap and Tax legislation forward and he ...more
By IcanCnovember (15), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 12:42 PM
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Folks: Its worth repeating and re-reading. This is the nonsense that soon enough, will be relegated to a couple of high dial cable talk news shows and the radical blogs - where it used to be and where it will be returned. We welcome even philatome into the big tent of freedom. Enjoy:

"The republicans,and now,the tea party, proudly campaigns on lowering taxes by cutting social programs such as SS and education;They attack immigrants and support laws that will discriminate; They attack ...more
By IcanCnovember (15), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 1:12 PM
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Correction: They attack ILLEGAL immigrants and with just cause and good reason!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 3:02 PM
And before the liberal brigade jumps on my correction, I will vote for Bishop because Randy Altschuler is a traitor in my book. If it had been Demos I would probably be debating with way to go, but still leaning towards Bishop.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 3:09 PM
Probably not but hopefully the legislate differently
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 3:15 PM
philathome, i wish, for your sake, that you could erase that statement/question. is there anything else you've got in your awesome quiver of artilery?
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Sep 15, 10 3:07 PM
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By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 3:13 PM
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By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 3:24 PM
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By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 4:21 PM
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By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 4:22 PM
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By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 4:26 PM
Now I've had it! So many posts from ignorant people like smacw. You obviously do not know Tim Bishop and his background. He grew up on Elm Street and the last time I looked there was no potato farm around there. In fact there hasn't been a faarm in that area since the railroad came to the east end in 1870. I can state that fact because my family owned and farmed the land from North Main Street to David's White Lane back in the old days.
Tim is strongly in favor of ruling for the benefit for ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Sep 15, 10 3:23 PM
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He votes against the hardworking tax payer at every opportunity and his own bio and past SH Press articles discuss his Grandparents farm in Sagaponack and how estate taxes impacted his family (yet he still favors them)

I'll thank you not to call me ignorant and put statements in my mouth I never said. I'm a 14th generation East End resident who knows local history very well, and know the issues even better.

Do you really believe the current state of spending and entitlements favored ...more
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 3:38 PM
You are exactly correct, summertime. Unfortunately 27 East boards have been taken over by the angry right. It is, of course, important that they have a voice, but they are incapable of having a calm and reasoned discussion. They attack for the sake of attacking and they admittedly support unqualified candidates because they feel it is more important to defeat Tim Bishop then to do what is best for our community.

I will be voting Bishop in November and I look forward to celebrating his ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 5:16 PM
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The Sagaponack grandparents are his mother's family . I said he grew up in the village just like the rest of his Bishop family. If you're 14th gen then you are a lot younger than I am. And I did not put statements up there atributed to you alone. I do stand by the Democratic platform. The entitlements, as you call them, are what is saving this country now.
I do want to say this for people who have democratic leanings In the past people have stood up to the big bosses and demanded a living ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Sep 15, 10 5:22 PM
If anything is evident here, those on the right are guided by reason and fact while those on the left are ruled by emotion and resort to lies and name calling when cornered by facts.
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 6:20 PM
summertime - the number of generation you are doesn't always correspond to age, for depending what line one counts back on you could range from 9th to 14th generation at the same age. On my mother's father's side of the family following the male line back to 1630 when they came to America I am only 9th gen. If I count my Halsey line it is 14th. in Southampton Town.

My point is the # generation you are doesn't in anyway indicate age.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 10:21 PM
Hey ICE were cousins!
And yes, Summertime seems to have serious cognitive impairments, as well as expecting others to fund a more generous retirement for her.
She must be part of the group dragging down avg scores at the Southampton public schools
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 16, 10 8:48 AM
Well, I scored 44/45 on the Iowa tests back in first grade, I guess I didn't drag everyone else down...
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 16, 10 5:05 PM
smacw, It's you can't read straight, I NEVER said I wanted any more retirement$$. What I said and what I do mean is there are plenty of retirees who receive hefty pensions AND Social Security, as it their right to do so, but I do not notice any fair minded soul refunding their Social Security payment .. which they later decry as being a "socialist entitlement that is dragging down this country adding to the deficit." And pray dear soul ,where do your children go to school? and Ha Ha if you're ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Sep 17, 10 3:46 PM
summertime, growing up on elm street is one thing, coming of age inside and having your brain washed inside the beltway is truly another. while your coloquiual (sp?) stories with the martha steward blurred camera angle are cute, but they don't cut it in the deadly contact sport of unethical politics in which your pal wallows each and every day.
By IcanCnovember (15), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 4:12 PM
Posted: September 14th, 2010 05:04 PM ET
Washington (CNN) – A new poll indicates that only one in four Americans say they trust the Obama Adminastration to do what is right , Well Well Well by "George" I think they have finally got it!
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 4:25 PM
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joe hampton
IcanCnovember
RealtyFirst
razza5350

Thanks for fighting the good fight against all these know nothings and lemmings. For today I bid you adieu, you are Princes among men (or Princesses as the case may be)*

* for those with reading comprehension problems, that is not an endorsement of hereditary monarchy.
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 4:45 PM
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Oh, are you admitting you are not a 14th generation Hamptonite?
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Sep 15, 10 5:28 PM
I thank you Sir . Its easy when the truth is on our side. You have a wonderful day.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 5:55 PM
Huh? once again your reading comprehension needs work
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 6:17 PM
And the left needs to stay out of our pockets.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 5:57 PM
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So how much is enough? 50%? 90%? How much should government confiscate?
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 15, 10 6:15 PM
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Don't you get it ??? Trickle up economics will never produce more than a meager existence. If your a Communal nut and berry eater like some in this room.... I guess thats Enough. But some people aspire to achieve more in their life and for that the far left would punish them. I believe the radical lefts goal is to bring down those evil over achievers. Since the complacent and or lazy will never do more than the minimum, It is necessary to bring the wealthy to their knees. Only then will progressives ...more
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 7:02 PM
I hate to tell you this but we're still in the Bush years, and will be for some time to come. It's not just that the damage will persist for decades, but that there is so little integrity and responsibility in Washington, and for most politicians so little desire to do anything other than vie for personal power and wealth.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 7:04 PM
Trickle up economics describes the flow of wealth from the poor to the rich. It is opposite to the trickle down economics, which has proven to be a fallacy.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 7:07 PM
Who proved That ? Jimmy Carter ? or Paul Begala? I must have missed that episode of Hard Boiled
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 7:48 PM
A healthy middle class, a healthy country makes.

Our middle class is currenly broken, beaten, and scarred permanently.

ESPECIALLY on the East End of Long Island.

I don't know about trickle down economics, but what I do know is that every upper class, and CEO salary has increased on a massive level for over twenty years, while middle class earnings have not only remained as stagnant as POND SCUM, but the cost of living has skyrocketed to go with it.

There was this ...more
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 15, 10 9:23 PM
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Z
Your middle class of the mid 20th century has indeed vanished.
They have been crushed by ever higher taxes
Priced out of homes by government lending schemes that artificially inflate values
Crushed my medical expenses inflated by over regulation of health insurance and Tort laws that keep trail lawyers enriched (and in turn the Dem party)
Downward pressure on lower end wages from illegal immigration
I could go on, but the point is your plan for ever higher taxes, expanding ...more
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 16, 10 9:00 AM
WRONG ON EVERY COUNT

FACT: Reagan raised taxes on the middle class 50%. So long, middle class.
FACT: Banks and mortgage brokers knowingly made fraudulent loans.
FACT: Health insurance was unregulated (until the health care reform bill).
FACT: Lawyers lobby both Republicans and Democrats.
FACT: Many American corporations use illegal aliens to increase profits.
FACT: US pensions have been gutted by greedy corporations and Wall Street.
FACT: All of this has crushed ...more
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 16, 10 3:01 PM
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It would seem smacw is either priveleged, or rather ignorant of math, and history.

I have worked very hard, and now have little, or nothing to show for it, thanks to a great many "intelligent", and powerful people.

I started from nothing, gained a little something, and now I'm back where I started. Not because I didn't work hard enough, but because I'm apparently not "worth" enough to society.

I am a walking charity, and there are more people than I can count on my digits ...more
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 16, 10 6:06 PM
Don't forget the role the dems had in all this. It is also a FACT that Bill Clinton's push to increase home ownership for those who would not normally qualify for a mortgage, or had no money saved for a down payment, was the beginning of the end. While it was a noble ideal, it was idealistic and naieve. Lenders were encouraged to give loans to those who barely could afford the payments. Lenders took advantage of these people, beginning a policy of "creative financing" in order to qualify these ...more
By teachourkids (36), southampton on Sep 17, 10 9:23 PM
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So long as there is someone who has less than you, regardless of the reason why, "social justice" dictates that you have no right to the money in your pocket.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Sep 15, 10 6:11 PM
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You reduce the problem to money in you pocket and have no concern for your fellow man, who, regardless of the reason why, is left to fend for himself without any support whatsoever, and if he can't pull himself up by the bootstraps then he deserves his fate.

That's pretty much the definition of a sociopath.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 6:34 PM
Noah Said "Let's face it Joe. The real race problem here is that your president is pro-choice .
"Choice" is another word for "freedom". It means that someone else isn't deciding something for you. Talk about no concern for your fellow man how about no concern for your fellow human
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 7:55 PM
It's pretty tough to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, when you ain't got no boots...
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 15, 10 9:24 PM
New research shows that people who have strong beliefs re: a political position, when shown irrefutable evidence contrary to that belief, will INCREASE their insistence of that view rather than re-consider or question it. A challenge to their belief system is just too painful to consider. Anyone monitoring these posts can see some evidence of this. In the end, whether Repub or Dem, Tea Party or Progressive is elected, they will all be co-opted by the machine that is run by big $ or they will ...more
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Sep 15, 10 6:36 PM
Belief systems are immune to facts, knowledge, logic, and intelligence.

What can be said of radical Muslims can be said of Fundamentalist Conservatives, Tea-Baggers and a host of others including American militia movements (Timothy McVeigh), The National Alliance (white supremacists), and so on, all of whom attempt to wrap their fear and hatred in patriotic colors.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 6:59 PM
Laszlo you really are a legend in your own mind
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 7:04 PM
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By They call me (2170), bridge hampton on Sep 15, 10 7:33 PM
We don't have to. They'll do it all by themselves, probably garnering numerous Darwin Awards along the way.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 8:45 PM
"Changing what you think, that's easy. Change what people believe? Now, that's a neat trick."

~Chris Rock (Dogma, 1999)
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 15, 10 9:27 PM
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Funny thing is, this effect was demonstrated among people with different political leanings who were hardly "radical." Initial results showed that right-leaning people were "harder" in their willingness to maintain a false belief and in their refusal to change but both sides tended to show some evidence of this behavior.
This should be no surprise to those who watch the political one-upmanship of our "leaders." Appealing to our fears and prejudices is nothing new (see Joe McCarthy, et al). ...more
By Laszlo Lowenstein (37), East Hampton on Sep 15, 10 7:09 PM
As a former republican card holder for thirty two years. I only think of the party of no and the party of do nothing. I think their only policy if they get elected is to cause gridlock in congress. This is really sad if this is all republicans can aspire to. Also, all republicans are not racists but if your a racist ,you are a republican. I am not going backwards into our not so proud history of race relations of the non-white peoples of this country. Sarah Palin has found a nice niche in this country ...more
By Mets fan (896), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 7:23 PM
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Editor: Please censor all references and uses of the term "tea baggers". It has nothing to do with any political movement and describes something inappropriate to a family new source and only coarsens the discourse.
Thanks in advance
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 15, 10 7:43 PM
Yes, but it was Maddow and Garafolo who re branded it.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 7:56 PM
Bishop has to go. I don't know much about Altschuler, but I know all I need to know about Tim Bishop. It's always a leap of faith with these things. Folks, this country voted Obama in and his experience was extremely limited. But the country said "Things are not going well, we'll give you a shot." I have the same feeling about Altschuler. I mean seriously... cap and trade??? Really??? So the Dems can throw out the "More of the same policies" argument. Like voting Bishop back in isn't more of the ...more
By double standard (1506), quogue on Sep 15, 10 8:41 PM
not hell feels good right now real good
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 9:23 PM
What language are you attempting? I'd debate your point if you had one.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Sep 15, 10 10:04 PM
Prior post for Philathome
By double standard (1506), quogue on Sep 15, 10 10:05 PM
And the Left is trying to sell the same statist non-sense that is the real problem in this country
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 16, 10 9:03 AM
Statism? What are you smoking? This country is a plutocracy, ruled by wealth.

And you blame our problems - including war and economic collapse - on those who routed your party after two terms of complete control that resulted in the current global economic disaster?

How typical. Blame the other party for your the problems your party caused. The only people buying into this idiocy are your fellow teabaggers. They just nominated a woman in Delaware who is so stupid she makes Caribou ...more
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 16, 10 11:15 PM
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So a term that is used to self-describe a political party - and is in wide use in print, radio and televised media - should be censored here?

So much for "new breed Republicans".
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 8:44 PM
Tim Bishop has alienated himself from the majority of his constituents. I have sent letters and called requesting to discuss his differing opinions, and he will not listen. He feels he is too big to fail, just like Nancy Pelosi. These people must go so we can salvage this great Country for our children. Visit www.DumpBishop.com for more info.
By DumpBishop.com (2), smithtown on Sep 15, 10 9:14 PM
So, DB, where do we see this alienation? What's the plan beyond unseating Bishop?
By VOS (1010), WHB on Sep 15, 10 9:18 PM
Find someone young, local, and intelligent who refuses beyond all to be self serving?

Maybe teach that young person everything you can, groom them to have the ability to reinvent the system, help them attain office, and pray to Creation it works?
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 15, 10 9:33 PM
Sounds like the Fred Thiele story 35 years ago. Thank whatever you hold sacred his glass ceiling was built in Albany.
By VOS (1010), WHB on Sep 15, 10 9:39 PM
Well, I voted for Pedro...
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 15, 10 9:54 PM
Pedro is one candidate we can all get behind for sure.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Sep 15, 10 10:04 PM
Left... Right.... Blah, Blah, Blah... Get your heads out of the sand, neither side is perfect or right all the time. And neither side serve any of you, they serve themselves and the special interests they represent!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 10:05 PM
Wow you sound like you have been sipping some Earl Gray tonight Ice
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 11:21 PM
Vanilla Chai my good man!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 16, 10 2:26 AM
Yes, as the sun sets on a day of victory, one of many sure to come. For this is true grass roots right here and it feels fantastic. To win, not by masking who you are, but by being true to who you are, now that is zen right there. The headlines and media are fully engaged and aroused by this incredible transformational wave. This was just a small trickle of the inundation and vaporization that is about to encompass the extreme radical left. The progressives have jumped the shark. Man, it's ...more
By IcanCnovember (15), Southampton on Sep 15, 10 10:08 PM
Have you seriously looked at the state of this Union?

Thomas Jefferson once opined that corporations would become the next aristocracy, which is why he came up with the Charter System, which the Robber Barons had repealed.

If I were you, I'd worry more about corporate entites who have been given First Amendment rights just like yours, and let go of your delusions about a dangerous, shady attorney.

In fact, I'd like to see you try and fill his shoes for a week...
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 15, 10 10:26 PM
Amen
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 15, 10 11:22 PM
Z
Jefferson, whatever his good ideas, also favored farmers over industry and trade, and thought we only needed a few row boats for Navy. Where would we be if he had prevailed? Bunch of serfs with no tax base to fund anything, and being overrun by who knows.
Come to think of it, you are a modern day Jefferson. (not a compliment)
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 16, 10 9:10 AM
Z, Thomas Jefferson believed in an Agarian society. One could make the strong arguement that we the people should fear the GVT more that the corporations. Of course both are closely related but ultimately the GVT has the power to set and enforce policy. The greater dependency people have on the GVT the greater power they have.
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 15, 10 11:24 PM
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Looking at how the government has not set and not enforced policy, the only reasonable conclusion is that corporations have more power, and that government is working for them.

And people should not fear government, government should fear the people.

"whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such ...more
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 16, 10 2:48 PM
Y'know, razza, Jefferson had alot of good ideas, and alot of bad ideas.

Assuming I am a "modern day Jefferson" is a VERY BAD idea.

However, had some of his agrarian policies been adhered to out here, we would not have an overpopulated, overdevelped, oversexed, insanely, outreageously overpriced community.

NO FARMS, NO FOOD, J*****S!!!!!!!
Sep 16, 10 4:30 PM appended by Mr. Z
You may however, consider me more of a modern day Mark Twain. I have always loved his opinions, especially when it came to the U.S. invasion of the Phillipines...
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 16, 10 4:30 PM
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By They call me (2170), Delta Quadrant on Sep 15, 10 11:34 PM
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This is interesting ->Michelle Obama thinks being America’s First Lady is ‘hell’, Carla Bruni reveals today in a wildly indiscreet new book.
Miss Bruni reveals that Mrs Obama replied when asked about her position as First Lady. Don't ask its hell.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 16, 10 12:28 AM
LOL.... That's fitting because she looks like a demon!
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 16, 10 2:27 AM
she is certainly enjoying the perks at our expense
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 16, 10 9:11 AM
Mr. Z is funny when he is all flumoxed. No, this site isn't over run by righties...the entire country is righty and in the last 18 months you progressives came out of your caves to follow the pied piper of facism, and now the dirty attorney has allowed the light to be shown on the sum total that is the failure of your ideas. And don't take it from me, look out the window, its not going well. Don't talk to me about corporations or any fluff. This president is the least popular president in history ...more
By IcanCnovember (15), Southampton on Sep 16, 10 6:23 AM
Ding Ding Ding we have a winner!!! The Race card played when all else fails.
A hardcore lib like Philathome, er I mean "progressive" calling others out for being ideologues??? That's funny.
Philathome - the failures of the Bush admin does not give the Dems a free pass.
Debt, spend, tax - debt, spend, tax - Dem-O-crats
By double standard (1506), quogue on Sep 16, 10 8:44 AM
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As opposed to Republicans: debt, spend, and cut taxes on the rich. That's worked our real well. Bush and the Republican congress doubled the deficit ($5.7 to $10.6 trillion) and it's the Democrats fault? Republicans couldn't even spell "deficit" until Obama took office.
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 16, 10 2:43 PM
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Confused, or a ball thereof, I often am not. In fact, rarely so.

All I honestly meant was, I do not envy what the man in the Oval Office has inherited, and to say he is doing a poor job, well that is just selfishness on the part of every American who wants to blame him, instead of his predecessors over the last thirty years or so.

By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 16, 10 4:34 PM
And as for big corporations. I love them, adore them. In fact, I cannot imagine my life without them.
By IcanCnovember (15), Southampton on Sep 16, 10 6:29 AM
Indeed some my biggest pay checks have come from big corporations. The ones that put me in to the highest tax bracket so that I may support Philathome, Summertime and Mr.Z in the style to which they would like to become accustomed.
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 16, 10 9:15 AM
You know what?

I worked for a local family business for almost ten years as not only a professional driver, but as a CDL driver.

I never hesitated to work in excess of sixty hours a week, and I will GUARANTEE you that you have NEVER IN ONE DAY IN YOUR LIFE worked physically as hard as myself, or any of my co-workers over that period.

I don't know who in the HE double hockey sticks you think you are, but if you have EVER slung over a TON of cake eater trash in an hour and ...more
Sep 16, 10 4:38 PM appended by Mr. Z
And by the way, that was BEFORE "tipsters" were ever used. We used good old fashioned green barrels, and made around forty grand a year for our honest toils. As we say in North Sea, 'Have a NICE DAY"...
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 16, 10 4:38 PM
Hey everybody, Christopher Nixon Cox just became my friend on Facebook. 2 months after I requested and 2 days after he lost the primary.
How much longer will he have a WHB address on his driver license? 2 days?
By smacw (222), New York on Sep 16, 10 9:21 AM
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By IcanCnovember (15), Southampton on Sep 16, 10 10:42 AM
Some folks here are trying to equate job loss by outsourcing with job "loss" to immigrants, but there's a big difference. The jobs that Randy Altschuler has taken away and shipped to India are what the financial industry calls "back office" work. It's routine and ministerial, in the nature of record-keeping and everyday accounting, and it's toward the lower end of the Wall Street pay scale, but it's work that American citizens want to do. Indeed, there was an American doing every single job that ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Sep 16, 10 12:25 PM
Not only that but you could understand those people ! These Robotic people from India or where ever they are from are HORRIBLE! to deal with. It is a insult to have to try and communicate with them. They have know idea where we are geographically and no concept of our culture or slang. I will never call Dell computer again or deal with broad-view networks I am sure you all have your blacklisted company's as well. Enough already !
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 16, 10 1:13 PM
Tech Support has been broken for years.

You shoud read PC magazine, Popular Mechanics, Scientific American, Rolling Stone, Business Week, and Popular Science more often...
Sep 16, 10 4:49 PM appended by Mr. Z
AND, if you need a local "geek" to fix your computer problems, let me know. I've done it professionally for a few years...
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 16, 10 4:49 PM
What jobs have we lost to immigrants? get real. these folks work hard. no Americans want to do these jobs. And I ask you when was the last time you saw a black construction worker or landscaper on the east end LOLLL . Trust me if its not a union job their are no blacks applying. Believe me thats not racism its a fact. If we did not have these Spanish folks we would be paying prevailing union wages to get or grass cut! What we need to do is give them work visas. and any one with a gang tattoo should ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1542), southampton on Sep 16, 10 1:21 PM
It's a catch 22. people hire them because it's lower labor costs and they don't need to provide them benefits. It's pretty tough to be a legal citizen working for 10 bucks an hour with no benefits AND having to pay taxes. Illegals are a major burden on the school districts, health care, and they pay virtually no taxes
By razza5350 (1860), East Hampton on Sep 19, 10 7:24 PM
This story will be retired from the homepage in a couple days, but to have an ongoing discussion of the NY-1 congressional race, visit the 27east forums: http://www.27east.com/forum/messages.cfm?threadid=B55A2398-E081-4CAC-9204F2CC3A32802A&page=1

In the forums, you can subscribe to receive an e-mail every time someone replies to the thread, so you won't miss a thing.
By BOReilly (131), 27east Web Editor on Sep 16, 10 3:23 PM
Over 160 comments - maybe you should let this one run for a while. Very entertaining ...
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Sep 16, 10 11:16 PM
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I don't think you should tell Bo what to do. He is drunk with power being the PC Zar might have gone to his head a bit. He looks like a loose canon. LOL only kiding Mr Reilly every one has a job to do.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 17, 10 12:40 AM
of all the proclamations philathome as breathlessly typed away, his wildest one yet was the usage of censorship as a tool of the republicans. phil, what color is the sky in your world?
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Sep 16, 10 4:05 PM
You really want to know what this country needs?

Balance, and sustainablity.

There are too many egos who think their "brilliant mind", is worth far too much more than someone else's hard working back.

End "de pecuniae' segregation, before our grandchildren end up speaking Chinese...
Sep 16, 10 4:56 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, by the way: "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, and then used against you."
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 16, 10 4:56 PM
P.S. End the use of the 1099 form.

If you want to see illegal participation in our work force drop like a stone, find a better way for independent contractors to file their taxes.

Most of the 'verification" forms, end up collecting dust in a drawer somewhere...
Sep 16, 10 5:16 PM appended by Mr. Z
http://video.barnesandnoble.com/DVD/The-People-Speak/Chris-Moore/e/733961211948/?itm=1&USRI=the+people+speak
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 16, 10 5:16 PM
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-People-Speak/Howard-Zinn/e/9780060813352/?itm=1&USRI=the+people+speak+audio+book
By Mr. Z (9524), North Sea on Sep 16, 10 5:49 PM
A question: How can anyone who is not independantly wealthy and living on interest from a trust fund even contemplate voting Demokrat in general and Bishop specifically given their confiscatory tax policies and anti- business agenda??
By bigfresh (3020), north sea on Sep 17, 10 7:16 AM
Hey, good news! Bigfresh is back, with some fresh misinformation. I think most everybody, on both sides of this campaign debate, would agree that people who are independently wealthy and living on interest from trust funds overwhelmingly vote Republican, not "Demokrat,' as you put it.
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Sep 17, 10 2:19 PM
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I'm with you as far the way people usually vote. And I'm sure you were just being facetious with your spelling. somepeoplejustdonotgethumour!
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Sep 17, 10 3:57 PM
May I get serious for a bit? I hope Tim Bishop does get voted in and sent back to Washington DC. I'm sure all reasonable voters realize that seniorty works in DC. So hopefully voters who really do care about the 1st District will see the sense in doing what is best for the district you live in. And the truth is Tim is doing the very best he can to help the very diverse population that he represents.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Sep 17, 10 4:04 PM
lala la la la la give me some of those pills you're popping. please!
and then i'll help DUMP BISHOP
By uncleronk (136), southold on Sep 17, 10 4:30 PM
I will never reward the Republicans for cutting taxes while increasing spending during the Bush years. It will take years for the Democrats to fix the damage the Republicans have done. Tim Bishop has been an excellent Congressman for the 1st District, and will have my vote again!
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Sep 18, 10 12:34 AM
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Summertime and METCOMedia are exactly right. Couldn't say it better myself. Notice what an intelligent response uncleronk has.
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Sep 18, 10 12:43 PM
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You're correct Turkey: In order to vote Demokrat in good conscience, one must either be a trust fund baby or living on the dole,thanks for your correction!
By bigfresh (3020), north sea on Sep 18, 10 2:36 PM
OK, bigfresh, we're making some progress. When you attribute Democratic voting to people "living on the dole," that's at least consistent with the usual right-wing slander, much as I might disagree with it. But you're still puzzling me with that "trust fund baby" whom you say is a Dem voter, again because I think it's pretty clear that most of those types vote for the GOP.
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Sep 20, 10 2:31 PM
Tim Bishop is a large part of that democratic railroading of Obamacare that will cause this country to decline into a third world economy. It is time for the democrats to stp aside and let people govern who can help this country!
By Walt (264), Southampton on Sep 18, 10 3:51 PM
How in good consience can anyone think we should go back the the eight years that brought us to the brink? Since I have traveled in lthe south and gotten to lknow so many southerners I wil tell you that the former dixiecrats turned republlicans are taking this battle as far as they can just because they hate having a mullato as president that's right President Obama is 50% white and 50% black so what? he's 100% smart and intellilgent to boot.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Sep 18, 10 4:14 PM
And out come the race card !
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 19, 10 10:27 AM
Summertime...he (the President) is also 100% imcomptent at his job...the people in the country know it, the Democrats who are running away from him know it, and most tellingly the people who worked for him know it ( i.e. the former OMB Director). I know its hard to admit but the truth hurts. Randy has created jobs. If some were outsorced so be it. Many were not and as a result hundreds of Americans today now have jobs created by Randy. Thanks to Tim Bishop hundreds of local people do not have ...more
By mrmako61 (148), southampton on Sep 18, 10 8:32 PM
There is a difference between outsourcing some jobs and setting up a business that makes money by outsourcing jobs.

Altchuler represents the republican party well. He makes money by destroying american jobs and moving them to india.

Yes, he created 700 sales jobs in the US, but he shipped 10,000 plus jobs for staff accountants, paralegals, secretaries and other office workers out of the country for good.

That is the republican economy for you. As long as someone ...more
By C Law (310), Water Mill on Sep 20, 10 7:44 AM
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Parroting one of the Demokrat's favorite lines Summertime? You know, the one where any disagreement with Barak Hussein Obama is based in racism, well done, you get a gold,I mean RED, star for that.
By bigfresh (3020), north sea on Sep 19, 10 7:11 AM
All right so I've said it. But, I am NOT racist and defy anyone to prove otherwise. I am a white woman, grew up and went to the Southampton Public School system, sat next to black children never thinking I was any better than them. When I moved to the south I discovered just how different things were perceived outside of Southampton Town. So speaking from experience I am saying what I think and have seen to be true. Perhaps some who speak with contrary experience could debate me, but this is what ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Sep 19, 10 11:14 AM
Summer, I was born in NY and lived here until I was 18 or so. During collage I lived in the South for 6 years, so I can only hope to qualify for your debate. My experience was different from yours. I found people of color to be less recognized by that label and more for what they stood for and belived in. The bad neighborhoods down there were full of crack dealers of all colors and creeds. In turn the affluent areas were less segregated than up north. It broke down more by your level of ambition ...more
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 19, 10 10:56 PM
That's just joe being joe.
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Sep 20, 10 2:36 PM
Ok phila I will play along show me where I have been racial,
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 20, 10 4:24 PM
Well lets take it easy and go point for point. When Latinos first started coming to this country they were migrant workers, mostly Christen people with strong family values. There was no such thing as MS13. It seems to me they picked that gang crap up in the LA jail system. It then spread back to Mexico and now look what you have down there. The Latinos I know over 35 have a great attitude, they are considerate polite and kind. They are here to work and raise their family's like our relatives of ...more
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 20, 10 10:34 PM
I think I have articulated my case rather well. If you choose to see racism where none exists I cant change that. The gangsta culture was propagated predominately by African Americans. I here black leaders coming out against it all the time. As they should. It is vile and indecent. Philathome am surprised you support a culture that is rotting away the values of society and promoting rape, murder,gang violence and drugs?????? I don't understand you really
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 21, 10 9:35 AM
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The gangsta culture has been embraced by Whites and Asians as well as blacks and latinos, even if in more of a poser-ish manner.
By ICE (1207), Southampton on Sep 21, 10 6:42 PM
Ice if you bothered to read my post I said It was propagated by the African American community. What is your point.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 21, 10 9:12 PM
It is a true statement, but I will concede it might have sounded to inclusive, by all means not all blacks participate in that mentality and I am sorry if I gave that impression
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 22, 10 2:08 AM
last word. word.
By IcanCnovember (15), Southampton on Sep 20, 10 2:33 PM
To Phila... google congressional gridlock.... you will find who are the pros, and it isn't the Republicans. The term "the nuclear option" with respect to congressional maneuvering and gridlock was coined in response to the Democrats threat to gridlock the Senate during the Bush administration. No one has historically played the floor rules game as well as the Democrats. The Republicans have always been the true legislators and the Democrats the crybabys of Congress. That is just a fact that ...more
By mrmako61 (148), southampton on Sep 20, 10 7:43 PM
While we as a nation were in debt prior to Barak Hussein Obama's ascension to power, he has piled on more debt and defecit spending than all the presidents before him. A Marxist to his very core and a host of Demokrats following Him blindly, God help us all if He succeeds.
By bigfresh (3020), north sea on Sep 21, 10 7:26 AM
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By Terry (380), Southampton on Sep 21, 10 2:03 PM
Anyone change their opinion after 209 comments?
By Terry (380), Southampton on Sep 21, 10 2:03 PM
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I bet not. All this retoric is just venting. But I do want to clear up one thing. And that is my suprise when I moved to the south and discovered that they are still fighting the Civil War. I did not have the oppertunity to meet with many black people to have any meaningful dialog with them. I did get to know so many really true local white people of many different income brackets. And that is where I say the dixiecrats are all Republican now. But truely all Y'all do know that I'm sure. And ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Sep 21, 10 9:19 PM
Nope, Still for small government, transparency and no more bailouts.
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 21, 10 9:16 PM
So what about Firemen, Police, Teachers, government employes, Senators, Represenatives etc? And say, Joe, do you have a pension or are you in line for one? If so then thank the UNION person that fought for pensions.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Sep 21, 10 9:22 PM
Thank a union, are you insane? They are the greed that will bring this great country to its knees. Fireman are way overpaid! Police and teachers do a great job but they need the be realistic its not a endless supply of money in case you haven't noticed
By joe hampton (2931), south hampton on Sep 22, 10 2:04 AM
Just to return for a moment to the subject of this article, Randy Altschuler, let's review the facts: Mr. A tried to go for political office in New Jersey, but he was turned down, so he moved to Long Island. He founded Office Tiger, an outsourcing company that made him a pile of money by moving thousands of American jobs to India and Sri Lanka. He claims to have generated jobs in the USA, but most of Office Tiger's American employees were people selling the outsourcing service to other businesses. ...more
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Sep 27, 10 8:28 PM
It's all about jobs this year, and instead of being part of the solution, Randy Altschuler is a big part of the problem. Tim Bishop works to create American jobs, but Randy Altschuler works to create Indian jobs. He's done well, too, shipping about 10,000 jobs overseas and making a fortune doing it. While this was going on, Tim Bishop got funding for 1,000 jobs at Brookhaven National Lab on Long Island, plus subsidies and tax breaks for small businesses that hire new employees. Mr. Altschuler ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1762), Quiogue on Sep 27, 10 8:52 PM
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