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Oct 19, 2010 5:46 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

This Year, An Election Year Battle For Bishop

Oct 19, 2010 5:46 PM

As his campaign manager tells it, U.S. Representative Tim Bishop of Southampton might not be in the fight of his life, but he’s certainly waging the liveliest reelection campaign of his career, as he faces both a tide of anger directed at Washington, D.C., and a deep-pocketed opponent, Randy Altschuler, who is aiming to capitalize on it.

Lisa Wieber, Mr. Bishop’s campaign manager, said the incumbent congressman has amped up his fundraising and outreach efforts this year in a push to hold on to the seat he has occupied since 2002. Although Mr. Bishop, a Democrat, handily dispatched his Republican opponents in 2004, 2006 and 2008, this year he is running in an atmosphere of hostility toward incumbents, who usually command a heavy advantage in U.S. House of Representatives races.

“I think this is the most serious climate,” Ms. Wieber said. “I don’t think Randy Altschuler himself is a threat. I think the climate is the concern.”

Meanwhile, Mr. Altschuler, a business owner from St. James, is looking to appeal to a contingent of voters that is dissatisfied with the administration of President Barack Obama and the Democrat-controlled Congress, including members of the Tea Party.

“I think those voters have been courted throughout this election by Randy talking about cutting taxes, cutting spending and cutting the deficit,” said Mr. Altschuler’s spokesman, Rob Ryan. “Those are three of their top issues, and I think those are the top issues of most voters this election year.”

Mr. Ryan said he sees signs of concern, even “desperation,” in some of Mr. Bishop’s advertisements. The congressman, he said, has shied away from identifying himself as an incumbent or a Democrat, or even mentioning that he is running for his fifth term.

“Anyone who is an incumbent is trying, I think, to run away from the incumbency, especially if you have the word ‘Democrat’ next to your name,” Mr. Ryan said. In response to that charge, Ms. Wieber wrote in an e-mail that Mr. Bishop is running on his record, as he has in the past.

There are reasons to believe Mr. Bishop is not as vulnerable as his opponent hopes. Albert Cover, a political science professor at Stony Brook University who specializes in congressional elections, said talk of a national anti-incumbent revolution is likely exaggerated. The U.S. House of Representatives, which historically returns an overwhelming number of its incumbents each election, may see enough of a turnover this year to put the Republicans in the majority—but even in that “worst-case scenario,” Mr. Cover said, most Democrats would still win reelection.

A poll conducted by Siena Research Institute earlier this month and released last Wednesday shows Mr. Bishop with a discernible lead over Mr. Altschuler—he is favored by 51 percent of likely voters to Mr. Altschuler’s 39 percent.

The poll surveyed 615 likely voters over the phone between October 6 and 11, picking them from a batch of 804 registered voters in the 1st Congressional District, which stretches from Montauk to Stony Brook. Something of an anti-incumbent sentiment may be palpable in the results: 48 percent of respondents said they were inclined to reelect Mr. Bishop, while 43 percent said they “prefer someone else.” But respondents generally said they viewed Mr. Altschuler unfavorably—44 percent to 33 percent—while viewing Mr. Bishop favorably—50 percent to 41 percent. Respondents also rated Mr. Bishop higher on every campaign issue, including jobs, health care, taxes and education.

Still, the reason Siena decided to study the race in the first place is because the 1st Congressional District is considered a political battleground this year, according to Steven Greenberg, a pollster for the institute. “I mean, I think it’s still viewed by both sides as a district that’s important to hold on to or to try and pick up, and Republicans still believe, I think, that they have an opportunity to win that district, and the Democrats are incredibly concerned about holding onto this district,” he said.

Mr. Ryan said he didn’t take the results at face value, because, he said, Siena has gotten polls wrong in the past. “We question the veracity of that poll,” he said. “Their past track record has not been great. We think it’s a very, very close race, and if I was Congressman Bishop, I would be very concerned right now.”

The race is by far the most expensive one of Mr. Bishop’s career, in part because he has had to keep pace with Mr. Altschuler, who has pumped $2 million of his own money into the race as of September 30. The challenger also has raised an additional $1 million from individuals, $79,000 from political action committees, $5,000 from his party and $80,000 from other sources, for a total of about $3.2 million.

Mr. Bishop has been hard-pressed to keep up. Ms. Wieber pointed out that his fundraising totals are the highest of his political career—he has raised $1.3 million from individuals, $860,000 from political action committees and $3,600 from other sources, for a total of about $2.2 million. But thanks to Mr. Altschuler’s personal contribution to his own campaign, that’s about $1 million less than Mr. Bishop’s opponent has to spend. The incumbent has received almost no money from his party and has not contributed any of his own funds to the race.

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Tim will win it. This is an East End native who has worked hard and delivered for his constituents on a consistent basis, running against Randy Altschuler, a carpetbagging, job-killling, progress-bashing creature of the current right-wing hysteria. As Ms. Wieber says, the hysteria, or the climate as she puts it, is a dangerous thing for incumbents this year, but not dangerous enough to overcome Bishop's positives and Altschuler's negatives, provided that we on the East End who know and appreciate ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 20, 10 5:50 PM
Few know it but in Washington DC Congressman Bishop has the reputation of "going to the mat" for ALL the people he represents -- that is why so many Republicans embrace him. Randy Altshuler moved out here simply to run for Congress and the GOP leaders rejected him for sending USA jobs overseas and for being a carpetbagger.

When it counted Bishop went against his own leaders to stand up for Long Island and they listened to him. He is a pro-small business, anti-tax middle class advocate and ...more
By JimmyKBond (151), Hampton Bays on Oct 24, 10 10:57 AM
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It's not surprising that Turkey Bridge argues with name calling but no facts, that's the typical modus operandi of the liberal/progressives. While Tim Bishop cliams he delivered $400 million in stimulus to the district, he never mentions that it comes with our share of the $825 billion stimulus debt that we have to pay back, about $3 billion. $400 million in, $3 billion out. What a great deal! He voted to bail out GM which then turned around and said it would increase its offshore production ...more
By BillO (7), Head of the Harbor on Oct 20, 10 9:36 PM
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Fact: Altschuler out-sourced tens of thousands of jobs to India. Fact: Bishop's votes helped to create millions of jobs right here in America.

VOTE BISHOP!
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 21, 10 10:22 AM
millions?? where?? can you back that comment up??
By uncleronk (136), southold on Oct 21, 10 11:39 AM
Not that folks like you can be bothered with facts, but let's give it a try, shall we? Progressnow is right. Tim voted for a number of job creation bills including the stimulus, which, despite all of the bs from the right, created at least 3 million jobs and that is according to economists from both sides of the aisle

http://www.campusgov.com/jobblog/economists_agree_stimulus_created_nearly_3_million_jobs/

VOTE TIM! Keep our jobs here!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 21, 10 12:12 PM
stop your hysterical blathering for just one day
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 21, 10 1:05 PM
Yeah, billO, stop your hysterical blathering or joe hampton is going to get angry
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 21, 10 2:11 PM
i bet dim bishlop wouldn't quote those figures.
By uncleronk (136), southold on Oct 21, 10 3:45 PM
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By BillO (7), Head of the Harbor on Oct 28, 10 9:03 AM
The only problem with your assessment is that the recession ended before the first stimulus dollar was spent. The stimulus was sold on the promise that unemployment could be capped at 8% if approved, but would rise to 9% IF WE DID NOTHING. It is now at 9.6% and everyone who backed it is scrambling to CYA, saying if there was no stimulus unemployment would have been 11.6%. I suppose if it hit 11% we would be told it would have been 50% without it. It is the same old progressive answer to failed ...more
By BillO (7), Head of the Harbor on Oct 28, 10 9:13 AM
Obviously you do not know Tim Bishop, Mr. BillO. The man is well informed on all issues concerning life in Southampton Town and when he decided to run the first time he went out and learned all about the concerns of the west end of Suffolk County. Tim is not a man to sit around let the other guy do it. Tim cares about his home area and works for the benifit of all. Vote for Tim Bishop on Nov. 2.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Oct 28, 10 2:05 PM
OK, facts: Tim Bishop got funding for 1,000 jobs at Brookhaven National Lab. Tim Bishop has obtained tax cuts for small businesses that are hiring -- in this district alone, 20,900 small businesses are eligible. Tim Bishop has worked to put in place the Credit Cardholders Bill of Rights, Wall Street reform, and improved health care for veterans. In this district alone, 8,700 people now have access to quality affordable health care becauuse of the health care reform that Tim Bishop helped to ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 20, 10 11:19 PM
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Remember, that's the same Wall St. "reform" bill, that Chuck Schumer turned into the equivalent of toothless hag...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 22, 10 12:58 PM
By the way, BillO, you might be interested in a little challenge I've put out there. So far, no one has met it. The challenge is this: Find someone, anywhere in this Congressional district, who has personally sought Tim Bishop's help and come away disappointed. (Factual accounts only, no fiction.) I bet you can't do it, because Tim Bishop takes care of business and he takes care of his constituents. We should keep him in Congress.
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 20, 10 11:27 PM
i asked for help with the helicopter noise. he sent me some of his political fliers to stuff in my ears. mission accomplished.
By uncleronk (136), southold on Oct 21, 10 11:44 AM
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Asked him to listen to his own advice and not vote fir the senate health care bill. Ignored me and thousands of others
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 21, 10 9:50 PM
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That right people, Turkey Bridge wants you to go door to door and find some one who was not helped by Dim Bishop. Great arguement, I am just all a tingle with the prospect of your proposition. It makes about as much sense as to continue voting blindly for a left wing political hack like Dim Bishop.
By MickNY (43), East Hampton on Oct 22, 10 8:10 AM
Hey Mick, that "Dim Bishop" line is good, really good. Where do you get your material? Wish I'd said that. Oh no, I'm forgetting I'm on Tim's side. That's what really good humor will do, right? That thing about doing "door to door" though -- I don't know about that one. That might be a little lame, you know, what with telephones, texting, search engines, email and all. It might just occur to people that there are lots of other ways to do it.
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 22, 10 10:54 AM
Mick people like to Turkey Bridge are always looking for the "gotchas" and when you respond with rationality they become eerily quiet. Fact is there are a lot of people dissapointed in Timmy Bishop. If they werent Bishop would be running on his accomplishments (Not Randy's outsourcing) and everyone would vote for him.
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 22, 10 11:00 AM
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The disappointment should not lie with Tim, but the select group of persons who ran our country into the ground. Here's a great read for you:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/222206
Oct 22, 10 12:12 PM appended by Mr. Z
And YES, you REALLY NEED to read this: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/222206
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 22, 10 12:12 PM
I wrote Tim a letter asking his support on a particulare issue. I got a letter back saying why he was opposed. Okay, I respect that he and I won't agree on much, but I thought his reasoning was awful. So, I wrote back a rebuttal point-by-point. Quite frankly, I didn't expect a response, but I got one. It was the exact same letter as the first time around with only the date changed.

I want a Congressman in Washington not a Tammany Hall fixer.
By BillO (7), Head of the Harbor on Oct 28, 10 9:22 AM
Hey turkey bridge try both commertial and recreational fisherman he has'nt done CRAP for either group. He needs to go and so do the rest of the delegation!
By montaukman (98), easthampton on Oct 21, 10 10:25 AM
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No doubt,dude. I mean, guys have been overfishing these waters for freaking years and Timmy knows it but why hasn't he done nothing to restock the waters? There's a question I'd like to hear him answer. And don't tell me he fought to keep the waters clean and safe cause fish don't care.
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Oct 21, 10 10:31 AM
Hey montaukman, I clicked "Like" when I meant to click "reply" -- getting old, which is part of why I fear Randy Altschuler, who wants to trash Social Security and Medicare. Anyway, I guess you don't get over to Hampton Bays much. If you ever do, ask the guys there who keeps Shinnecock Inlet open for them all, commercials and sports. They'll tell you it's Tim Bishop.
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 22, 10 11:08 AM
Fact - Tim Bishop was hired to represent the majority of his constituency since 2002. Fact - he has not so and the best he can do is say he voted with 51% on the Obamacare.

Fact - Randy is going to be responsible for Outsourcing Tim's job. Seems like the only job Tim really cares about saving his is own. Oops, I forgot to put ''fact'' in front of it to make it look official.

Fact - its funny when turkey bridge issues challenges and finds that nobody really cares enough to ...more
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Oct 21, 10 10:57 AM
Yeah, we don't care enough to respond to any challenge we can't actually answer! Dylan32, you have mastered the teabagger art of issue avoidance after only 49 comments and your talking points are spot on - impressive! I gotta have tea with you too! KEEP ON BAGGIN'!

By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Oct 21, 10 12:08 PM
Hey 51 I did not see you respond to Dan27 yesterday? or the real Razza or me or the Captain seems you duck quite a bit yourself.
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 21, 10 1:08 PM
http://www.siena.edu/uploadedfiles/home/Parents_and_Community/Community_Page/SRI/SNY_Poll/1st%20CD%202010%20Poll%20Release%201%20--%20101310.pdf

Above is a link to the complete Siena poll that gives Bishop a 12% lead over Randy. Interestingly, 1/3 of Republicans will NOT be voting for Randy. By election day, this will be north of 40%. It's tough to ignore the ethics of a man whose millions came at the expense of his countrymen's jobs.

Also interesting, Paladino is running 37% ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Oct 21, 10 1:52 PM
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Highhat, that last line is on a par with the unforgfettable "Jesus wept!" You are the master!
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 21, 10 3:40 PM
I forgot "Another night of mummenschanz." Abundant thanks for these delights.
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 21, 10 4:11 PM
To Turkey Bridge:

Many thanks. I try to make an enjoyable read. The truth is that the reactionary Republican correspondents toss up so many softballs that it is beyond my self-control to refrain from swinging, guilty though the pleasure may be. Were it not for that, I think that your initial post on this thread was a comprehensive answer.
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Oct 21, 10 4:39 PM
joe hampton = angry teaparty shill
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 21, 10 2:12 PM
OUCH!
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 21, 10 9:54 PM
I thought FDR was the most liberal president ever. You know the man who created Social Security and was criticised for doing it.
Now, all the have people who collect social security and receive medicare waving yellow flags as conservatives.
Wow...what happened?
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 21, 10 2:38 PM
Maybe if they hadn't of borrowed so heavily from Social Security in the past, it would have a better shot at sustainability.

Has Social Security coffers EVER been replenished of the monies borrowed?

Methinks NOT...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 21, 10 9:56 PM
No, the 'lock box' was opened in the 60's by liberal Johnson to pay for the Vietnam war and his Great Society, more liberal failures. Since that time, no president, republican or democrat, has been able to put the lock back in place. Also, when originally implemented social security had 40 people paying into it for every 1 person collecting. We are now at the point that for every 1 person collecting only 3 people are putting into the system, unsustainable just like the rest of the out of control ...more
By MickNY (43), East Hampton on Oct 22, 10 8:16 AM
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By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 21, 10 3:29 PM
i just found someone to answer your challenge, but I would like to keep the names out of it so as to not implicate the innocent. I found someone who was stuck overseas. During that volcano situation, they were stuck in the airport for weeks and had kids here that were ill. Tim told them that they were on their own. I found another person. Single mom. She needed money for her oil burner last year and Tim sent her to a local not for profit that he has nothing to do with. I have found another ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 21, 10 3:38 PM
OK, let's look at your three answers, yessiree. The first one, the airport deal, seems like the strongest. We don't know all the facts, and I'm not sure what "volcano situation" you mean, but if this was one of Tim Bishop's constituents looking for help, it sounds like he could have done more. Unless there are facts you've left out or don't know that would change it, this could be a gotcha for you.

The other two are nonsense. In one, you say Tim sent this lady to "a local not for ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 21, 10 4:07 PM
That "volcano thing", a while back, left little recourse except to travel by BOAT, until it blew over.

Come to think of it, I ALWAYS call my local Congressman when I am overseas, because I always need his help booking my travel plans, so he/she can take care of my kids, instead of relying on family, close friends, or neighbors.

And referring someone to a viable resource for fuel assistance, nope, that's not the right procedure at all.

And, gee, Tim can't make it to speak ...more
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 21, 10 10:03 PM
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can i issue a challenge, to razza5351? find out the weight of the pumpkin in sag harbor. i can win $50.00 if I get it right. Now let's see who can answer a challenge big jokester.
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 21, 10 3:42 PM
highhat, you realize that poll was taken a month before election day right? and they only used 600 people with a 4% margin?
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 21, 10 3:54 PM
As of 10-15 CQ politics had changed district 1 from lean dem to a toss up. The Seina poll also had Lazio beating Paladino and we know how accurate that was. tim ago. I think the race will be very close
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 21, 10 4:15 PM
Hey, yessiree, does everything you write have to be a lie? You only prove what folks already think about you tea partiers. No wonder you support people like Christine O'Donnell and Sharon Angle.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 21, 10 5:33 PM
To yessiree and razza5350:

The Siena poll IS the latest poll, ending on Oct. 11. As mentioned, it finds Bishop beating Altschuler by 12% (51/39). The previous poll, by FDL/SurveyUSA, taken before the electorate knew anything about Altschuler, has Bishop winning by 2% (47/45). A lot of voters only focus on the election in the few days preceding election day. When the average Republican realizes that Altschuler has sacrificed the well-being of his countrymen to fund his opulent lifestyle, ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Oct 21, 10 5:15 PM
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No one can say for sure what the outcome will be. My point by comparing paladino in the Siena poll is that the siena poll is flawed. One thing you will see come election day for certain is the libs will lose the house due to disatisfaction with the current administration and it's direction.
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 21, 10 9:59 PM
Anyone who voted for that SOCIALISTIC Health Care program of Karl Marx Obama, will not get my vote. I hope Bishop loses. The problem is, that the east end has gotten much more liberal over the past two decades, as many locals have moved out, and many elitist north east libs have moved in.
By reality 101 (137), East Hampton on Oct 21, 10 5:56 PM
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Please, if you can, educate us on the difference between COMMUNISM, and SOCIALISM, if you can.

I so do love the slinging of lables that goes on. You know, it's funny how successful Tito's Socialist Yugoslavia was, and how Stalin's Communist Soviet Union went to pieces. It's also ironic how one man like Tito held that whole country together, and the civil war erupted within ten years of his death, instead of while he was alive.

Buy a clue, and an education, and QUIT slinging labels. ...more
Oct 21, 10 10:09 PM appended by Mr. Z
And for reference, if you have never read the Communist Manifesto, maybe you should at least get the Cliff's Notes.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 21, 10 10:09 PM
And, here's a quote for you. I reminds me of how our politicians promise us a better country, and better things, but give themselves pay raises, the best of medical benefits, and leave the people to wallow in the aftermath of broken promises. There are certain qualities, which distinguish a leader, from a politician, who is a henchman to his own wants, and needs.

"Tito sought to improve life. Unlike others who rose to power on the communist wave after World War II, Tito did not long demand ...more
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 21, 10 10:40 PM
The real answer is that no matter what you choose to call it, no system has ever been the same in History under the same label. It boils down not to what it is labeled, but how that government is run, and how well it serves the freedom of ALL it's people.

To blindly follow, where fools lead, well, that's "your funeral" in this life.

If you don't read everything you can, view everything you can made on subjects, and in general, educate yourself to follow your OWN opinion, then ...more
Oct 22, 10 1:06 PM appended by Mr. Z
"The system assumes a certain minimum level of ethical behavior and civic instinct over and above what is spelled out by the regulations. If those ethics are absent — well, this thing isn't going to work, no matter what we do. Sure, mugging old ladies is against the law, but it's also easy. To prevent it, we depend, for the most part, not on cops but on people making the conscious decision not to do it." ~Matt Taibbi
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 22, 10 1:06 PM
Altschuler outscourced thousands of jobs to India and made millions doing it. He mved into our congressional district two years ago and now he wants to be our Congressman? I don't think so.

Vote Local......Vote Bishop!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 21, 10 9:57 PM
11 more days thank GOD
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 21, 10 10:17 PM
Found a copy of that book for ten bucks, and I'll be ordering it tomorrow. It's harder to pass along a library book to someone else. I also recommend "The Great Book of Hemp". Considering the turmoil in California, it's a great read now, more than ever.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 21, 10 10:43 PM
Why do you think I am against your right to smoke ? Your an adult do what makes you happy
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 22, 10 1:06 AM
but if I catch you pedaling it to a minor.... Well lets just say I would not want to be you at that moment
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 22, 10 1:08 AM
Actually, I have taken two, or maybe three tokes a year since I got my CDL. Even if I didn't have one, I wouldn't smoke every day. It's more of a Friday/Saturday thing, anyway.

I'm moreover in favor of HEMP, so we can S***CAN "Big Oil" for good. Anything you can make from oil, you can make from hemp. That includes plastics, and complex hydrocarbon chains. However, "marijuana" was illegalized to destroy hemp as a cash crop, and competior to oil, as well as the timber industry. I care ...more
Oct 22, 10 11:49 AM appended by Mr. Z
Oh, and if you don't think hemp could destroy "Big Oil", and thier liquid poison with a friendlier alternative, or change the building materials industry as we know it, you need to pay more attention...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 22, 10 11:49 AM
OH, and as far as "peddling" it to children, it should be treated no differently than alcohol.

Idiot...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 22, 10 11:58 AM
You better watch who you call an idiot Mr Z .I was just stating the obvious anyone who smokes pot as you clam you do on occasion, should be responsible enough to make sure that no children are around. I wonder Why the press didn't feel the need to censor your threatening behavior
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 22, 10 4:35 PM
If it wasn't directed at me, you should have stated such.

Whose intentions were seemingly malicious?
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 22, 10 9:56 PM
Altschuler has only lived on Long Island for TWO years, he is a NJ native. He is a multi-millionaire who made his money by Outsourcing thousands of American jobs to INDIA with his company- Office Tiger! (and his new fliers lie and say that Tim wants to send jobs to China? WRONG). ------------------------------------------------------------The WORSE is that Altshculer is a true believer in Paul Ryan's ideas of getting rid of medicare (and all public programs)- and if you don't believe me listen to ...more
By SunriseHwy (14), Mattituck on Oct 21, 10 11:33 PM
I can't wait for this election to be over. The robo calls are driving me crazy. Seems every time I go down to the basement the phone rings. I dash up to find it's just another awful political call from one or another of the candidates bashing their opposition. The campaigns have all been so negative that I don't want to vote for any of the candidates. But, I will vote. I always do. I just wish I had better choices.
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Oct 21, 10 11:33 PM
Did you all see this? Gallup October 21, 2010
Obama's Approval Rating at New Low in Most Recent Quarter His favorable rating and re-elect figures are also at new lows
-- Barack Obama averaged 44.7% job approval during the seventh quarter of his presidency. His average approval rating has declined each quarter since he took office, falling by more than two percentage points in the most recent quarter to establish a new low.
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 22, 10 1:16 AM
Altshculer is a believer in of getting rid of medicare (and all public programs)- and if you don't believe me listen to his OWN words- go to Youtube and search under; Altschuler medicare. Or go to; outsourcerandy.com ------------------------------------------------------ Get everyone out to vote, family, friends, neighbors, towns-folk!
By SunriseHwy (14), Mattituck on Oct 22, 10 7:09 AM
Against his own belief bishop voted for health care reform and sold himself out. This bill will cost everyone working in the private sector money.....enough said
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 22, 10 7:58 AM
Tim Bishop voted for Obamacare. In Obamacare is a new 3.8% tax on the sale of your home. That was slipped into the HC legislation and doesn't just affect the evil 2%, it is applied to everyone. So, have fun giving $38,000 to the federal government per each $1,000,000 per sale of your house.

If you agree with this, vote local, vote for Tim. Obviously, he has your best interests at heart. But you didn't hear it from him, I had to tell you about it.
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Oct 22, 10 9:26 AM
Your average home, other than in the artificially, derivative monies, overinflated market we were born in, is usually less than 250k.

Shop around...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 22, 10 12:05 PM
Dylan, although I feel the Health care bill is atrocious (so did Timmy) and will wind up costing the average working man that statement is only partially true.The tax will only apply if you sell your home for over the capital gains threshold of 250K for an individual or 500K per couple. You then would pay the tax on the amount above the threshold. It is very true that number could definley come into play out here for many people.
As far as voting for Timmy. LOL Bishop has resorted to running ...more
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 22, 10 10:53 AM
You're wrong about the Bishop campaign, razza. Look at my above post -- 11:19 PM on Oct. 20 -- it leads off with a string of Tim's accomplishments, and then yes, it beats up on Randy. The Bishop campaign does the same thing, positive and negative. See, this isn't like the usual going negative, when you slam a guy for not paying his taxes or cheating on his wife. Those things are bad, but they aren't directly related to the job the guy is running for. Here, it's different; Randy Altschuler's ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 22, 10 11:26 AM
I couldnt find it
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 22, 10 2:08 PM
I attended the Hampton Bays congressional debate and what was abundantly clear was that Randy Altschuler is not qualified to run for office and that Tim Bishop is. Mr. Altschuler did nothing more than parrot tired republican/tea party talking points. As all republicans have done this election season, Mr. Altschuler said we must lower the deficit, but we cannot raise taxes or allow the Bush tax cuts for the rich to expire. When asked specifically what he would cut in order to reduce the deficit, ...more
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 22, 10 11:24 AM
Thank you for reporting on the debate. It is clear- Altschuler is a carpet bagger.Altschuler will NOT help education here on Long Island, the elderly (he truly wants to get rid of medicare and the GOP blatantly says it wants to get rid of Soc Sec, it goes on and on). Bishop has proved himself time and time again and we must all get out the VOTE!
By SunriseHwy (14), Mattituck on Oct 22, 10 6:18 PM
I love how captn anti-america quotes a rabid, right, teabag group as proof of how bad Bishop is. Laughable.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 22, 10 7:19 PM
Finally realizing that any defense of Randy's business ethics simply call attention AGAIN to his avaricious disregard of the welfare of his countrymen; and at last being unable to avoid reading the writing on the wall regarding election day, the reactionary Republicans on this forum have chosen to point fingers at Obama and threaten repeal of Universal Health when a Republican majority takes over in the House.

You dream. The Senate will remain Democratic. Universal Health is here to stay. ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Oct 22, 10 11:32 AM
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http://nonprofithealthcare.org/resources/
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 22, 10 1:38 PM
Unfortunately you are correct. it will be very difficult to repeal the bill. But you say and I quote "everyone agrees that it is an awful bill" If it is so awful why did most dems including Bishop (who agrees with you by the way) vote for it. As for the arguement for profit VS non for profit one need to examine Medicare VS medicare advantage. Non profit=poorly run=costs the tax payers a ton of money
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 22, 10 2:14 PM
We have to start somewhere...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 22, 10 9:54 PM
LOL which is where by making the situation worse. Your defenses of this bill get more pathetic everytime
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 23, 10 9:29 AM
Dagdavid has it right about the debate last night in Hampton Bays. I was there, too, and all I can add to dagdavid's excellent summary is to note that not only did Randy Altschuler refuse to say where he would cut spending, he also refused to answer Tim Bishop's repeated question that since spending cuts alone won't eliminate the country's huge deficit, what else would he do? Randy performed so poorly that I'll issue another challenge to my friends here: Find someone outside the tea party who ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 22, 10 12:01 PM
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Todays Gallup Obamas approval numbers disapprove 50.7 approve 42.1 Just 10 more days ....Straight Ahead
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 22, 10 4:39 PM
hey, joe, Obama is not on the ballot.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 22, 10 7:18 PM
election projection has bishop up by 3.4% a far cry from the Siena Poll and high hats prediction. Anyone out there who thinks this will not be close is nuts. One thing is for sure Joe Hampton is right...just 10 more days until sanity is restored and the one party rule is over
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 22, 10 4:42 PM
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Why?
Are you really going to vote for a man who just moved here and outscources thousands of American jobs?
Vote Bishop...Vote Local!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 22, 10 4:54 PM
To razza5350:

http://www.electionprojection.com/2010elections/statepages/ny10.php

I presume that you are referring to the above, a site that commingles objective polling data with subjective opinion (like the CQ which it factors into its conclusion).

At least, unlike the CQ conclusion, it publishes its sources (In this case, the opinion of four "pundits".) It chooses to give three times the weight to their subjective opinion than it does to polling data.

I prefer ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Oct 22, 10 5:32 PM
"they were forced to hold their noses and vote" Are you kidding me. And you want to vote for a spineless man who cant think or speak for himself.
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 22, 10 8:25 PM
Forget points, Nate silver, who correctly predict 99% of all races in 2008 gives bishop a 65% chance of winning. http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/house/new-york/1

They also name top donors to each candidate - among the top donors to Altschuler's campaign: Bank of America and Goldman Sachs, Enough said.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 22, 10 7:17 PM
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First he outsources tens of thousands of jobs and now we see two of his biggest donors are Bank of America and Goldman Sachs!! You have got to be kidding me?

Hey, teabaggers, you do realize that B of A and Goldman are bailout recipients You do realize they got fat off of that tax payer bailout you hate so much? That they are responsible for the economic crash?

Goldman made BILLIONS In profit this year and they are giving out BILLIONS in bonuses and you support a candidate ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 22, 10 7:24 PM
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I just went to that link and looked up Altschuler's other donors. At the top of the list is Elliot Management, his biggest donor - what is it, a $15 billion hedge-fund management firm. His top investor manages a $15 billion dollar hedge fund!! How can anyone who claims to care about this country vote for this man?
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 22, 10 7:33 PM
LOL Bishops biggest donor is Renaissance Technologies which is a 15 billion dollar hedge fund.
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 22, 10 8:22 PM
Compare the two hedgefunds and see which one supports outsourcers.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 22, 10 11:15 PM
Give me a break you are missing my point which is they are all backed by money but if you want to sling it then compare the two hedgefunds and see which one supports a spineless person with no conscienence who votes against the best interest of his district
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 23, 10 7:34 AM
You give me a break. Two of Altschuler's biggest donors are two of the companies among the most responsible for brining down our economy, Goldman Sachs and Bank of America. You can try all you want to rationalize that away, but it only exposed your extreme hypocrisy.

AGAIN, teabagger scream and yell that any politician who voted for George W's Tarp should be kicked out of Washington but you have no problem voting for a candidate who took tens of thousands of dollars from two of the biggest ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 23, 10 5:12 PM
Its a two way street. Are you saying that dems DONT take any money from evil insurance companies ir evil corporations?
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 23, 10 6:30 PM
Nice try progress trying to localize this election. You take your D.N.C marching orders very well.
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 22, 10 9:27 PM
While you try to nationalize ala RNC teabag marching orders, eh? By the way, if this election is a referendum on Obama, then why is Altschuler behind by 12 points. Remove teabag, substitute intelligent thought.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 22, 10 11:17 PM
Teabaggers HATE George W's tarp, but they'll vote for an Outsourcer who took thousands from Goldman Sachs?! With Halloween coming, you tea drinkers should consider dressing as either the Mad Hatter or Zombies
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 22, 10 11:08 PM
Bank of America and Goldman Sachs........
Yea...Randy of Mumbai knows all of those guys.
Vote Bishop......Vote Local!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 22, 10 11:11 PM
News Flash! - - - Friday, October 22 - - - Rudi Giuliani endorses Altschuler for Congress.

It is unfortunate that ignorant people have allowed themselves to be swayed by misunderstanding the import of Randy's shipping of American jobs overseas. Giuliani must feel a close kinship with Randy. When Rudy was running for President, ignorant people misunderstood the import of Ms. Giuliani traveling around the country mutilating animals in demonstrating medical devices that her company sold. ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Oct 22, 10 11:19 PM
Randy is the lesser of 2 evils and if elected he will be put on notice to straighten up or he will be replaced.lets not forget I supported Cox
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 23, 10 12:05 AM
Joe I respectfully disagree with the lesser of 2 evil comment. The so called progressives want to deflect from the real issues (and admittedly are doing a good job) which is Tim Bishop. If Cox were running they would be on him as well. Bishops disregard for his voters is appalling. Randy is a strong canidate who has pledged to LISTEN and vote in the best interest of his voters not his party. He is not a lawyer or career politician. He is running on a platform of fiscal responsibility and accountability.
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 23, 10 7:50 AM
I'm not sure I would brag about my support of Cox. Obviously, Papa Cox was trying to live vicariously through sonny boy. That was your first error, now Randy Dandy! Seeing your log-in, I understand.........(south hampton?0 you can't be a local.
Obviously an outsider trying to make it on the East End. I think you need to join with
other Republican "inteligencia"---Sarah Palin, Christine O'Donnell, Rand Paul...you would all be so happy in your own "little world."
By Happy in the Hamptons (9), hampton bays on Oct 24, 10 11:11 AM
Don't get me wrong Razza I will be voting for Randy, I just thought Cox was the better candidate
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 25, 10 6:06 PM
You know right wing, job shipping Randy is desperate when he has a recorded voice of George Pataki - is anyone duller? - call your house and say that Randy brought 700 jobs to America.

Figure Wall Street Oil Spill, tea party puppet Randy shipped 4,000 jobs to India and we'll give him credit (although it's probably an exaggeration) for the 700 George says he brought to someplace in America - not Suffolk county), he's still down about 3,300. That probably represents the amount of votes he ...more
By Steven (113), Westhampton on Oct 23, 10 4:26 AM
you know left wing never in his whole life created a job in the private sector, helped drive Southampton college in the ground, accepted tax cheat dollars from Rangel, votes against his conscience Timmy Bishop
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 23, 10 9:28 AM
Randy just moved here two years ago, He has shipped 10,000 American jobs to other countries and made millions doing it.
Now he wants to be our Congressman? NO WAY!
Vote Bishop.....Vote Local!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 24, 10 2:41 AM
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By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 24, 10 9:06 AM
SH Native, you forgot to add "polly want a cracker", brrrroooock.
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 24, 10 9:06 AM
Yea....I bet the truth about your candidate hurts.
The fact that he made millions of dollars sending American jobs to India, and that he just moved here from New Jersey. And now he wants to be our Congressman?
Vote Local....Vote Bishop!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 24, 10 9:29 AM
Bishop has proven himself and helped Long Island. Altschuler wants to get rid of medicare (go to YouTube) and help his foreign friends, he's not even from Long Island.
By SunriseHwy (14), Mattituck on Oct 24, 10 9:46 AM
Good deal Toomey is still edging out that bum Sestak in PA and Joe Manchin is choking in WV. Even after these left wing extremists keep publicly distancing themselves from Obama care and Cap and Trade the voters are seeing right through them. 9 more days and the balance of power tips back to sanity!
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 24, 10 12:29 PM
not true, you know that like you know a lot of things. if bishop wins, the only saving grace is that we'll have someone to blame when things don't turn around before his next election.
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 24, 10 1:37 PM
The blame for all that is wrong, and how the economy tanked lies in the past. The chain of events that led to the crash of 2007-2008 began with Donald Regan, CEO of Lehman Bros. in 1980. He handpicked Reagan for President, and presided over the White House, like Cheney did over the course of Bush's presidency. REGAN saw to the inception of deregulation in the financial industry. Fast forward to Bill Clinton, and his further deregulation of the economy (GLBA) which pounded the second to last ...more
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 24, 10 2:07 PM
Z you live in your own fantasy land
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 24, 10 2:40 PM
Actually, the roles in this case are quite reversed.

If you believe in what Alan Greenspan spoon fed the powers that be, which is that an economy will regulate itself, well, you do the math.

Regan was more than happy to drop the tax rates for the wealthy from 75%, to 35% or less. It meant he had more money to play with, and Reagan believed those cuts would help the economy. All those cuts have done is let our infrastructure decline, and disparity to reach a modern high. My grandfather ...more
Oct 24, 10 5:46 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, if it worked so well, why did Greenspan just about recant everything be believed his entire life about economic policy before Congress? That alone should tell you something...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 24, 10 5:46 PM
Yes, Sarah Palin put It best last week when speaking of Barbara Boxer And Jerry Brown "Most progressives are permanent residents of a unicorn ranch in fantasyland.” I believe They have to reinterpret history through spin to try and make there arguments appear to be cohesive
By 27dan (1930), Southampton on Oct 24, 10 3:00 PM
Attempt to be cohesive?

The facts are in the Congressional record. The facts lie all around you. If you think for one second the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, all the CSOs, and CSOs squared, derivatives betting on cloned company debt like Wall St. did with AIG is a healthy thing, then it is YOU who live in a "fantasy land" with the unicorns. These people invent money from thin air, with no real capital to back it. The cascade failure of AIG was UNPRECEDENTED. The fall of "too big ...more
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 24, 10 5:55 PM
The Gvt helped to create the environment by putting legislation in effect that faciliates it. Both Parties are corrupt and guilty of this. Clinton's expansion of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac helped lead to the collapse of the housing market. I am surprised you are a democrat and not a libetarian.
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 24, 10 8:52 PM
The cost of living, and housing, would not have spiraled out of control without the repeal of Depression Era legislation. The repeal allowed for the conflicts of interest in the financial industry done away with after the Crash of '29 by the Glass-Steagall Act were reinstated, and all holy fiscal hell broke loose inside of a decade. They "opened the floodgates" alright, and drowned millions of middle class homeowners. Sure, Fannie and Freddie didn't help, but they were only branches on the tree, ...more
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 24, 10 9:39 PM
Are you John Smith reincarnated or Nostradamous? The one simple truth about housing is your house is worth whatever someone is wiling to PAY for it. Key word being pay. I cant remeber the bill but Chris Dodd veteod (as did all dems) a requirement that would have required people to put down a deposit of at least 5% to buy a home and he said "passage of such a requirement would restrict home ownership to only those that can afford it". This type of logic is identical to the policy put in place by ...more
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 25, 10 9:31 AM
And what created the massive amount of fake capital in the last fifteen years that drove the last bubble?

That's right, you guessed it, and unregulated derivatives market, and the repeal of key parts of the Glass-Steagall Act.

You really should see the footage of Alan Greenspan sheepishly trying to skirt admitting he was wrong, on a wholesale level. Destined to be classic footage!!!
Oct 25, 10 2:12 PM appended by Mr. Z
AND, who signed the GLBA into law? That's right! William Jefferson Clinton.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 25, 10 2:12 PM
OK, here it is 7:00 on the evening of Oct. 24, and no one has been able to answer either of my challenges: [1] Find someone anywhere in this district who has personally sought Tim Bishop's help and come away disappointed. [2] Find someone outside the tea party who attended the Oct. 21 debate in Hampton Bays and thinks Randy Altschuler did well. So far -- zilch on either one. (Sorry, yessiree, but Mr. Z shot down your attempt on another thread with the volcano thing.) I'm not saying either ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 24, 10 7:06 PM
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Sorry, yessiree's near-miss on the volcano thing was on this thread -- see above Oct. 21 at 3:38 PM, 4:07 PM and 10:03 PM.
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 24, 10 7:15 PM
I have already answered it. I contacted Mr Bishop and asked him to listen to his own words and not vote for the senate health bill. He didnt listen to me, thousands of others and even himself and voted party lines. In his own words "The senate bill is bad for New Yorkers and I will not vote for it. He betrayed his constituents and he should be ashamed
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 24, 10 8:34 PM
razza Remove teabag, insert intelligent thougth
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 9:52 AM
Razza, that's no answer. I meant, and I believe most folks understood, find someone who personally sought Tim Bishop's help with a problem and came away disappointed, not just someone who called him up to argue about policy.
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 25, 10 12:47 PM
Thats no answer? I personally sought his help and came away disappointed. What are you referring to. Helping me find a job.Helping me fix a flat tire?
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 25, 10 2:17 PM
If you don't get it, you don't get it. There it is.
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 26, 10 10:17 AM
8 more days
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 24, 10 8:15 PM
BTW, it's spelled "das vidanja"...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 24, 10 10:02 PM
WGAF
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 24, 10 10:18 PM
According to the Russian dictionary I have.... you seem to have forgotten the ( i ) not like I care, but you brought it up. And since I am quite certain you have read more communist literature than I have who knows.1.Da svidaniya, Kapitan
1 Goodbye, Captain = Da s'vidahnya, Kapitahn or Da svidaniya Kapitan
2 Go with God = Poydeetyeh s' bohgum or Poidityeh s’bohgum (my spelling)
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 24, 10 10:19 PM
There is no "Y" in the slavic alphabet.

They use a "J" to express the sound of a "Y".

But, who cares about the facts. Just what I have come to expect...
Oct 25, 10 2:08 PM appended by Mr. Z
AND, if it's written in Cyrillic, it's a completely different alphabet. Just like Ancient Greek...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 25, 10 2:08 PM
It does not matter.....8 more days
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 24, 10 10:21 PM
real clear politics just released the wrap up, often seen as one of the most accurate. NY1 is a toss up! Power to the people!
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Oct 25, 10 9:22 AM
From conservative Washington Post "Companies that received bailout money giving generously to candidates"

Altschuler and the teabaggers are in the pockets of bailed out banks and financial companies. Two of Randy Outsourcers biggest donors are Bank of America and Goldman Sachs!

The teabaggers/republicans are the biggest hypocrites in American political history. IN 8 days their true insignificance will be apparent

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/24/AR2010102401561.html?hpid=topnews
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 9:51 AM
you're kidding right? you're at 542 comments and you are trying to convince people that there are only hacks from 1 party taking money from corporations? young man, you have a lot to learn. have you been to DC lately? a political operative...for any party, can put a call out on a tuesday for $500,000 and get it in by friday. and try throttling back a bit on the teabagger thing, its so last year. i cannot tell you how funny you all were about that whole ''volcano'' nonsense...hahahahaha.
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 10:18 AM
you're kidding right? you're at 542 comments and you are trying to convince people that there are only hacks from 1 party taking money from corporations? young man, you have a lot to learn. have you been to DC lately? a political operative...for any party, can put a call out on a tuesday for $500,000 and get it in by friday. and try throttling back a bit on the teabagger thing, its so last year. i cannot tell you how funny you all were about that whole ''volcano'' nonsense...hahahahaha.
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 10:18 AM
quick questions, oh heck, let's make this a challenge to turkey now, or progressfirst...SHpeople, i get you all confused. my medical marijuana dispensing doctor suggested that bishop hides behind a full beard and glasses. why is that?
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 10:24 AM
Maybe he should dispense some to you
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 10:52 AM
would you like to rescind the all republicans are bad and take money from corporations and agree that the whole let's see where the money comes from to villify the candidate argument is a loser? you realize that its very sad that obama and your ilk have attacked and smeared the us chamber of commerce in the same way, only to find out what we all already know that ironically is dems that take more foreign money and that foreign money from soros is funding the sum total of what you call...well, i'm ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 11:36 AM
To dylan32:

There has been no poll of District 1 since Oct. 11 which showed Bishop winning by 12%, up 10 points from the previous poll. It would be nice if Siena would release a current poll today. RealClear basis its predictions on subjective opinions more than objective data. It's hard for me to believe that anyone would vote for a candidate who shipped 10,000 American jobs overseas. I'll bet that the raw vote for this seat is much lower than that for other contests (like governor), ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Oct 25, 10 11:38 AM
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oh sure, the poll that has the numbers you like is the only valid one. will you promise me that you will post a simple one word on november 3rd. ''uncle''?

rejection is difficult to understand, in all its forms. and as your psychiatrist, i would politely submit to you that your are fully engaged in the body's self preservation status whereby you simply have to convince yourself that what you see is actually something different. defense mechanism type process. this cannot have been ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 25, 10 12:34 PM
Hey, mackt, I would be happy to buy your a drink to celebrate Tim's victory and Randy Outsourcers loss! As gullible as some voters are, most have a strong enough sense of morality and decency to know you don't vote for a millionaire who shipped tens of thousands of jobs to Asia! Cheers to TIM!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 12:39 PM
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By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 25, 10 12:38 PM
Yeah, you progressives and your WOMEN! No real man listens to a woman, let alone an entire league of women! And, no, we don't care that the league is one of the most well-respected, non-partisan groups in the history of the American politics - we are teapartiers and we have no place for women, gays or minorities and their bigotry against the white man!

Mackt is a true voice of the teaparty - a true patriot who believes that the founders (all of whom loved Jesus, but the way you pinko ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Oct 25, 10 1:26 PM
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WAIT, did you say millionaire? this is a family website! and, you have better get your attorney's ready for when he finds out you called him a *gasp* millionaire (with pinky up at corner of mouth, peering over the bifocals).

yeah, you're probably right, most voters have the morality and decency not to vote for a *gasp* millionaire (this tiem, said with red face paint and little horns sprouting).

no offense dude, but i'm hoping to be a millionaire someday so I can't imagine ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 1:24 PM
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Yeah, we support the teaparty because they are the party of millionaires and we hope to one day be one of them! Well, said, yesiree! And don't be fooled, while we are waiting to BE millionaires, we are more than happy to be their tools.

Granted, thy millionaires do not want us to become millionaires and they work against us at every turn, but we understand them and one day we will be as exclusionary as they are! F___ the poor! Long live the outsourcing American Millionaire, and if ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Oct 25, 10 1:29 PM
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and why have you and your buddies declared war on the responsible?
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 1:26 PM
Yeah, why are you pinko commies declaring war on America's responsible outsourcers!? Do you understand how rich, white America works? It is the free market, dude, which means you are free to eff over whoever you can to get to the top! If that means sending tens of thousands of well-paying American jobs to India, so be it. As Randy himself said, the Indian worker is superior to Americans anyway!
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Oct 25, 10 1:32 PM
Wow....that is the best yet! Tim Bishop makes Randy Altschuler outsource American Jobs. Does Randy now owe Tim Bishop the hundreds of millions that Randy has made off of such business?
The fact is, Altschuler has outsourced thousands of American jobs overseas and made millions doing ti. Henmoved here two years ago, and now he wants to be our Congressman.....and you support this man???
Vote Local....Vote Bishop!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 1:58 PM
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Anyone else really tired of the "Tea Partiers"?

Give me the capitalism, and the level of disparity from the '50's.

Or was it too "Socialist" for you Bostonian types?
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 25, 10 2:18 PM
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correct, philathome
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 25, 10 3:02 PM
Tim Bishop.
1. Disregards the voter of district 1
2. Hasnt created a private sector job in his life
3. accepts tax cheat dollars from Rangel
4. Helped drive Southampton college into the ground
5. Votes party lines
6. Lies to his Constituents

Vote Randy Vote change
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 25, 10 2:28 PM
Randy Altschuler:
1. Never heard of District 1 until he moved here 2 years ago.
2. Has created 10,000 private sector jobs -- all in Asia.
3. Accepts wingnut dollars from people like razza.
4. Helped drive the US economy into the ground by outsourcing.
5. Will vote party lines to bring back the good old days of GW Bush.
6. Lies to his would-be constituents when he says he didn't destroy American jobs.

Tim will win, but only if his friends get out there and vote ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 25, 10 2:42 PM
Good night, cap.
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 25, 10 10:01 PM
you're tired of the teapartiers...hahahaha, you're not that tired that you can't go on this website. we don't get tired, when we're having a blast toying with you like a bunch of tots. philathome is not a happy camper, busting out the biggest words he knows. and there is razza the jokester with his dude and effing people over and all that....this has taken on a life of its own. if this board is a microcosm, the left is angry at the right, the right is angry at the man and its about 55%-45% in ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 2:39 PM
Phil, you sound funny, like you should have a cape on with a crooked D, some tights and some cokebottle glasses...hahahaha. I have news for you, win or lose, Tim Bishop has lost significantly. His hope for a legacy is ruined his record has been blown to pieces by a light no stronger than a bic lighter and his time is up at this election or the next. But, I cannot imagine that he is going to win. The people that will be voting against him don't answer polls, they don't post like we do and they ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 25, 10 4:30 PM
and no, i just did the math, do your research, people that post on this site, from what i can tell, are against bishop by a margin of essentially 60/40. here is a challenge for turkeyprogress5151 or whomever....add it up. and rightly so, you know, even though he has a reputation for ''going to the mat''. hehehehe. you people kill me, with that '' in the know'' style of yours.
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 25, 10 4:33 PM
Tim Bishop and the United States Government saved the nation by passing the stimulus bill. You right wing-nuts like to forget the state of the economy left by then president G. W. Bush at the end of 08'. We were looking in the face of a second great depression. Tim Bishop did the right thing. Funny how non of you had probl;ems with the increadible amout of money sent in Iraq.
Instead, you support a man who just moved here from New Jersey, and made hundreds of millions of dollars outsourcing ...more
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 5:39 PM
with all due respect, only the house, of which tim is a member can appropriate funds. here's the tally update for bishop blame bush- 499, take responsibility for his failures - 0. what's laughable is your simplistic clinging to inane issues like from what town someone lives is as a leadership quality. shoo.
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 25, 10 5:57 PM
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By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 25, 10 6:00 PM

I just got done reading the lattest Paul Krugman piece of garbage and he seems to be at it again. Wow he sounds curiously like Z . Like Z he will never lose his overinflated opinion of himself. Since he won the Nobel prize for Economics he has gotten worse. The only reason he won it was because he is a card carrying liberal and sucked up to the Euro trash socialists. His columns are over publicized drivel and he knows that he losing the battle to convert the US to a Euro-Socialist state because ...more
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 25, 10 6:10 PM
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists/paulkrugman/index.html

I'm sure your qualifications FAR exceed his degrees from Yale, and Massachussets Institued of Technology...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 25, 10 6:42 PM
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists/paulkrugman/index.html

I'm sure your qualifications FAR exceed his degrees from Yale, and Massachussets Institute of Technology...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 25, 10 6:42 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/25/opinion/25krugman.html?_r=1&ref=paulkrugman
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 25, 10 6:43 PM
Success is one thing.

Gross fiduciary negligence, and a financial market that is nothing short of fiscal anarchy is another.

It's sad you can't tell the difference...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 25, 10 6:55 PM
Why do you bother reading that drivel? Week after week it's the same mantra from Paul - higher taxes and higher spending. Sorry, but there has never been a country that has taxed and spent its way into prosperity.
By 27dan (1930), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 6:21 PM
I wish Reagan were still alive so you could tell him that.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 25, 10 6:24 PM
What are you babeling about , "Only by reducing the growth of government," said Ronald Reagan, "can we increase the growth of the economy." Reagan's 1981 Program for Economic Recovery had four major policy objectives: (1) reduce the growth of government spending, (2) reduce the marginal tax rates on income from both labor and capital, (3) reduce regulation, and (4) reduce inflation by controlling the growth of the money supply.
By 27dan (1930), Southampton on Oct 25, 10 6:32 PM
Dergulation worked so well, Alan Greenspan recanted every speck of that policy before a Congressional Subcommittee.

Yeah, deregulation works wonders...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 25, 10 6:45 PM
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By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 25, 10 7:07 PM
I would like to thank both of you for proving every day the true nature of the teaparty movement. The next time someone says teapartiers are not hateful, bigots, direct them to this board and the comments of mackt, joe hampton, razza, captn crunch and the rest
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 26, 10 9:37 AM
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For about forty years after WW II, tax rates for the "wealthy" were between 75%, and 90%. Those rates kept disparity in check, and allowed for a middle class that paid for it's homes, usually in twenty years, or less. It built this country's infrastructure, such as bridges, roads, and the Eisenhower Interstate system. In the early eighties, those rates were slashed, to pursue "trickle down" economics. It was foolishly believed that the "upper crust" would expand business on their own, pay the ...more
Oct 25, 10 7:52 PM appended by Mr. Z
Sorry, I meant "after the 'Great Depression', and during the post WW II economy"...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 25, 10 7:52 PM
Look at how the hair on Z's back stood up when I critiqued Paul Krugman like 7 posts out of the last 10 or 11 Lolll
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 25, 10 10:23 PM
Not really.

Just posting some info about the party in question you defiled, that you chose to omit.

I guess we can add sensationalist to your repertoire as well...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 3:49 PM
What a left wing lemming
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 25, 10 10:24 PM
Could you Imagin if I started in on some of the other more repulsive pergressive spin doctors Robert Reich or Ellis Henican, Ward Churchill or Dr. Lamont Hill I might give him a stroke.......Loll
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 25, 10 10:31 PM
7 more Days......... Goodnight :)
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 25, 10 10:32 PM
7 more days until Tim wins, Altschuler is sent packing and dems retain control of the senate. If the dems lose the house, John Boehner will lead his team of ditto heads in an orgy of nothing. 2012, the republicans nominate Palin, Obama wins in the biggest landslide ever, and, after the embarrassing politics of 2 years of republicans, dems sweep both houses and we begin Obama's second term with even larger majorities then we have now. A future I welcome.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 26, 10 8:07 AM
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I will be here to remind you of your fantasy and humbly remind you that the rest of the country that you live in does not share NY and San Francisco;s socialist ideology
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 11:55 AM
You have NO idea what Socialism is.

You are just the kind of radical wingnut, who likes to sling labels, and be on the "side that's winning". I would LOVE to do a doctoral thesis on how your mind works...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 2:32 PM
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By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 26, 10 7:35 AM
mackt,you are the most bigoted, ignorant, know-nothing posting on these boards and, given your company, that is quite an accomplishment.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 26, 10 8:09 AM
phil, the whole link thing you've seized upon doesn't really build credibility for you. to be fair, there are 10 thousand links on the internet for any point of view one would like to find support for. hope you don't mind me telling you that but you were starting to fade in terms of your entertainment value. at the same time, we are a week out and i am going to miss you after next week. vote local, vote altschuler.
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 26, 10 7:41 AM
Reagan was a tool and his "greatness" is one of the biggest republican propaganda myths of all time that only the most gullible believe.! But, hey, mackt supports sarah palin, so what would you expect.

Let's see what mackt and his fellow baggers have to say next Tuesday under the article, "Bishop Sends the Outsourcer Back to Jersey"
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 26, 10 8:11 AM
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i don't care what party tim bishop is affiliated with. he's been in too long now and its time for a change. honestly i think it would have been more classy of him to have had stepped down and allowed another democrat to run in his place.

By Bilge Water (131), East Hampton on Oct 26, 10 8:37 AM
I presume you think the same thing about Ken Lavalle, who's been in for 34 years, as opposed to Bishop's 8 years.
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 26, 10 10:10 AM
when you just start calling people names, he's won. and rightly so, you people have nada. there is an absolutely wholesale rejection of you and your big government high tax loving pals. why don't you admit that it hurts to be rejected. sure bishop might win, but that does nothing to help you at all. the democratic party as a whole as been crippled 20 months after the annointing of the chosen one. that is the story here. win or lose for bishop, its a small issue on the grand scale. if he ...more
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Oct 26, 10 9:02 AM
If there is such wholesale rejection, how is it possible that Bishop might win. The more you teabaggers post, the more it comes out in the wash that your white supremists who think women shouldn't have any rights[that doesn't matter what color] Not all republicans are racist but if you are a racist you are a republican. The party of hate ,the party of no , the party of do-nothing.This is from a former card-carrying Republican for thirty four years.
By Mets fan (610), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 11:47 AM
Yes.... what she said
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 11:59 AM
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By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 2:44 PM
OK, no links to YouTube.

But, Richard Jeni did have a great opinion on politics...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 3:53 PM
i had no idea what the john birch society was, but looked it up. thanks, that makes a lot of sense. it is an organization that is against totalitarianism by the federal government and is particularly anti socialist and anti communist. i'm surprised you don't agree with their stances?
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Oct 26, 10 9:05 AM
if that is what you learned about he John Birch society then you need more learning. In the end the bigoted and hate-filled will lose to the intelligent and compassionate - that is what makes America great
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 26, 10 9:11 AM
Like igorance, and arrogance, John Birch went hand in hand with the KKK.

What exactly do we teach in schools these days?

Or, moreover, is it what we DON'T teach that is the problem?
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 2:45 PM
Another great teabagger success http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/26/us/politics/26alaska.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&src=igw

HAH! Love it!
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 26, 10 9:18 AM
let me get thiks straight, william yardley a biased editor writes a biased article for a biased news paper and we end up with another posted link and some capital letters and exclamation points for a biased poster. oh my gosh, how do you not feel silly? oy vey, everyone can pull links that make them feel good and paste them up as supposed proof. that is so lame, i am sorry, i have more respect for you than you have for yourself. i just joined the john birch society. they make a whole lot more ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 9:45 AM
The teabaggers importance is nothing more than political mythology, just like the failed presidency of ronnie reagan

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/10/25/2010-10-25_tea_party_not_the_political_powerhouse_it_seems_70_of_party_not_involved_in_camp.html
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 26, 10 11:55 AM
For anyone wondering how the republicans plan to govern over the next two years, the answer is - they don't. Instead, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has stated that the "single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

"The single most important thing we want to achieve" is NOT creating jobs, helping the unemployed, boosting the economy, improving our schools, holding banks accountable, stopping jobs from being outsourced, stopping ...more
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 26, 10 11:51 AM
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Govern ? no we plan to stand in the way of your constitutional hijacking and in 2012 restore some common sense.
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 12:03 PM
Your methodology is commonly called "vendetta".

It's like vegeance, whose tree bears no fruit.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 2:49 PM
like the way you hired 5000 lawyers to examine chads
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 8:20 PM
fcmcmann and progressnow - you do realize that by making obama a one term president, they will be following the will of the people? you do realize that this is what representation is all about? perhaps you don't like that, but clearly, no make that without question - undoubtedly - this is the most important thing on the mind of the MAJORITY of americans. this is what I am trying to say, rejection is painful, but we don't feel back for you. it feels very good to have our country back in balance ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 12:16 PM
Well you have thirty years worth of damage on your plates.

Just like Obama.

GOOD LUCK!!!!!
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 2:50 PM
http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/forecasts/senate

Above is another excellent non-partisan election forecasting site. As on most such sites, they don't give specifics about how they arrive at their conclusions but, different from others, they give a percentage probability of the outcome.

It's called 538 after the number of electoral votes.

Invariably, their predictions are closer to the more modest polling results.

It's a shame that the District 1 race isn't ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Oct 26, 10 12:33 PM
I don't like to rub it in but Ive been telling you for a few weeks that the Siena poll was not accurate. You kept saying 12%. It will be close.
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 26, 10 12:50 PM
No president of the 20th century had a more positive and enduring influence than Ronald Reagan, Other presidents, like Wilson and FDR, exceeded Reagan in their impact, but much of it was negative. Sure, they won wars, but they almost destroyed the American economy as well Reagan, by contrast, won the Cold War and also revived the American economy from decades of abuse. He was successful both at home and abroad. Reagan was a visionary; he believed that people wanted freedom and would do well when ...more
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 1:28 PM
WOW.

You really are brainwashed.

If Reagan's way of doing things was so successful, why did GM post billions in profit, lay off their workforce, and then declare bankruptcy during his presidency? He also appointed Alan Greespan Secretary of the Treasury, whose policies FAILED on a massive level. He even sheepishly admitted it before a Congressional subcommittee.

It's the stifling taxes on the middle class that are the problem. It's the LACK of taxes on the upper ten ...more
Oct 26, 10 2:56 PM appended by Mr. Z
OH, and in case you missed it, it was the LACK of regulations that got us into the mess we are in, and decimated our economy.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 2:56 PM
It is not me that is brainwashed .You just want to make things confusing so you can shuffle the money around and achieve your ultimate goal redistribution of wealth.
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 3:58 PM
Here's a fine example of the "redistribution of wealth". Wall St., and the Republicans/Democrats have done it for YEARS. Right into their OWN pockets, from ours. What's so bad about taking it BACK?

"CDOs built solely out of subprime mortgage debt became the rage. And using the magic of the Gaussian copula correlation model, and some clever off-balance-sheet architecture, high-risk mortgages were re-packaged into triple-A-rated investor gold. The CDO market exploded. In 2000, the total ...more
Oct 26, 10 4:57 PM appended by Mr. Z
"The CDS and CDO markets grew together, feeding on each other. At the end of 2001, there was $920 billion in credit default swaps outstanding. By the end of 2007, that number had skyrocketed to more than $62 trillion. The CDO market, which stood at $275 billion in 2000, grew to $4.7 trillion by 2006." 6 years, and $***load of money from NOWHERE, AND WORTH NOTHING.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 4:57 PM
We would not have had the high risk mortgages in the first place if it was not for Clinton and his policy on red lining, We should hang Barney and Dodd from the same proverbial tree as Andrew Mazzillow they are all crooks. You should not be able to buy a house unless you have 20 % down and If you loss It due to not being able to comprehend what A ARM is then sucks for you!
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 5:19 PM
And why was housing so unaffordable, especially here?

Wall Street's "redistribution of wealth".

We should hang Greenspan while we're at it, and throw in Thaine, Rubin, and Geithner as a start.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 5:26 PM
OK there is a little common ground. The bailouts were just as bad as the affirmative action loans
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 5:45 PM
Why Phil because I don't want to pay shake down reparations to hip hop union thugs like Local 84. For something my ancestors had nothing to do with. Most of me friends who happen to be black would agree with me they are sick of being labeled and prostituted by your party. We are all Americans first.
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 8:25 PM
Randy Altschuler promises to repeal health care reform, to kill Social Security by privatizing it, and to kill Medicare by voucherizing it. If Randy gets in, enjoy it in good health -- you better be in good health, because you'll be on your own in that department.
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 26, 10 1:38 PM
well, when all else fails, try the politics of fear. social security is not being privatized and medicare is not being ''voucherized''. at least joy behar and you have something in common. obama, who is forever linked with pelosi and reid, who is forever linked with TIM BISHOP is now at 37% approval rate. Would you be willing to admit things aren't really working out well for you? We have tried to help you by getting you ready for the overwhelming rejection you are about to face. We are within ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 3:50 PM
Sure, let's hold it against Obama, that you can't fix thirty years worth of damage in two years.

RIGHT....
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 3:55 PM
I think you have to go back I little farther than 30 years like FDR
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 3:59 PM
This just in, your boy Tim Bishop (he's local if you haven't seen any of SHNative's posts) is IN FAVOR OF the new policy that is ON THE TABLE to eliminate the mortgage tax, this is in addition to the new 3.8% tax on the sale of your home. THESE ARE IN PLAY. not like this nonsense about social security and medicare.

and stop being such a wus mr. z, when you are the most powerful man in the world and you are a leader, and every president has had their share of problems, it is unseemly, ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 4:10 PM
That will never happen. It would be political suicide. Only the real diehards like dr z would stand for it. They would much rather prefer trying to hide the tax. My all time favorite is the annual IRS filing fee which is a tax to pay your taxes
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 26, 10 5:05 PM
Fact remains, it CANNOT be fixed in two years. Your opinion is irrelevant, pretentious, rhetoric.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 5:09 PM
Did you mean the mortgage tax deduction this is getting out of control. Thank GOD 6 more days! oh and by the way this election is a referendum on the Obama administration
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 4:17 PM
joe hampton never argues the fact, just bullies and demeans, much like most baggers - including those who work for Rand Paul and beat up women from the other side. Cowards
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 26, 10 5:03 PM
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I am just a community organizer looking for conservative justice don't pick on me. You can come along for the ride as long as it is in the back seat. Yes we can!
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 5:11 PM
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By local 84 (272), riverhead on Oct 26, 10 5:29 PM
joe the plumber hampton has had too much tea to have room to swallow the truth, but this is for the more literate among us: a National Journal poll shows that 47% of Americans want Obama for a second term. Think that is a low number? Well, in the 1982 midterm elections only 36% wanted Reagan to run again and two years later he went on to beat Mondale in a landslide.

This may be an off year for dems, but 2012 will prove quite different.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 5:51 PM
http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/house/new-york/1
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 4:27 PM
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=02b53979-1e5f-47fc-82e1-64b0fb96602e&c=158
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 5:08 PM
Why does it state that the poll was taken in January?

Since 600 were polled, and Suffolk County touts at least 1.1 million persons of voting age, I'd trust this one...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 5:22 PM
Hey, joe - your propaganda is nearly a year old "600 likely voters from New York's 1st Congressional District were interviewed by SurveyUSA 01/16/10 through 01/18/10"

At least attempt to feign intelligence
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 26, 10 5:24 PM
joe hampton gets a high 5 from me across the digital divide. early gloating. even progressnow is starting to accuse us of bullying, but i cannot see where any of us righties ever had to resort to the sort of vitriol we see above, bullies, baggers, beat up women, irrelveant, pretentious...all right up there. isn't there a volcano somewhere they should be investigating..hahahaha.

obama, tim, nancy and harry have lost. the count, election day, none of it matters, the american people have ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 26, 10 5:22 PM
mr. z, turkey progress and all of them think their polls are more accurate. hahahaha, so great.
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 26, 10 5:23 PM
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You know what, you're probably right.

The New York Times is a horrible source...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 5:37 PM
the audacity of NOPE:
Dems might as well stay home. this would be fine. via mike allen politico. lib hothouse....

Republicans net 51 House seats (39 needed for control) – 8 Senate seats (10 needed for control). When people ask us our hot hunch for an upset, we say that Harry Reid could still win – gives you a sense of how bad the C.W. is for Ds. For the past two weeks, Alex “Morning Score” Burns’ parlor-game hot hunch has been Rep. Joe Sestak (D) winning in PA SEN.
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 26, 10 5:25 PM
Indeed, only time will tell...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 5:34 PM
here's another poll. pew research shows that only 51% of latinos are ''absolutely certain'' that they will be going to vote. This is in response to Obama coming out today and imploring latinos and hispanics to ''punish their enemies'' and if they want immigration reform to vote for the lefties. although ''latinos for reform'' are urging their latinos brothers and sisters to not vote for libs because they are sick of being played like pawns in the power game. they get it. sick that we even have ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 26, 10 5:35 PM
In 6 days the tea party will rescue America
For a decade, the left owned the streets. Subsidized by George Soros and energized by the Clinton impeachment in the 90s and the Iraq War since, it dominated the Internet and grass roots campaigning. Michael Moore’s movies – however misguided – enthused their ranks and catalyzed their efforts. ACORN worked to commit massive voter fraud in the guise of stimulating voter turnout and the New Black Panthers worked to intimidate those with whom they disagreed. ...more
By 27dan (1930), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 5:36 PM
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Sure, deregulation, tax breaks for the upper 10%, major corporations, and the GLBA have done WONDERS for the economy.

Just LOOK at how well the economy is doing in the era of deregulation...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 26, 10 5:40 PM
Acorn? Hah! You are as out of touch as your avatar! I love crazy, old rethugs like 27dan! Always good for a laugh.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 5:53 PM
Dr Z you are seriously living in a Time warp. If I hear the word Glass Steagall act or derugulation again Im going to puke. We also tried taxing the daylights out of people under Carter and that didnt work so well either
By razza5350 (1835), East Hampton on Oct 26, 10 6:14 PM
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ROTFL , Conflicts of interest characterize the granting of credit (that is to say, lending) and the use of credit (that is to say, investing) by the same entity, which led to abuses that originally produced the Act.
2. Depository institutions possess enormous financial power, by virtue of their control of other people’s money; its extent must be limited to ensure soundness and competition in the market for funds, whether loans or investments.
3. Securities activities can be risky, leading ...more
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 8:36 PM
Exonerated.....Lolllll You truly are delusional
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 8:40 PM
Nice Phil.....Nothing like supporting a candidate who condones calling his opponent "A Whore" But I guess if N.O.W. Can pretend It did not happen so can you.
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 9:25 PM
I think the man said condoned ??? Not Said. Do you ever get your facts straight?
By 27dan (1930), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 9:41 PM
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By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 10:10 PM
President Obama Heads into Midterms at Lowest Approval Rating of Presidency
Two-thirds of Americans believe country going off on the wrong track
NEW YORK , N.Y. - October 25, 2010 - President Obama is spending the next week crisscrossing the country in support of Democratic candidates before this year's midterm elections. While the president may do a great job of energizing the base, he may not be able to convert any Independents who have yet to decide for whom they will vote. Currently, ...more
By They call me (1976), southampton on Oct 26, 10 5:59 PM
Phil you movment also belives in the methodology is known as the Cloward-Piven Strategy,
The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.Nice try, but we're not going away. 6 More daysCap hang in there.
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 8:46 PM
Altschuler made millions sending thousands of American Jobs to India.
Vote Local....Vote Bishop!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 9:05 PM
Would you vote for Nancy Pelosi? Voting for Tim Bishop is a vote for Nancy Pelosi. He has voted with Pelosi 97% of the time.

By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 9:17 PM
Thats because most New yorkers are union members and other special interests who stand to profit from the corruption. Who cares about New York. They will always go blue you are wasting your time trying to fight it. This election is national and a referendum on the failed Obama tax print and spend us to destruction irresponsibility.
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 9:32 PM
Tim Bishop has abandoned his constituents and found comfort with Pelosi, Reid and Obama and big unions. We are here to send the message to Washington that politicians work for us or they don’t work!
By 27dan (1930), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 9:42 PM
Tim believes in Taxing the rich and giving to the poor.
We all know you wont vote to close the borders to illegals coming in. I wonder what is your plan to close the borders to the Rich who will be fleeing this State?
Once the 'rich people are gone, Timmy, who has to foot the bill to all
your "Progressive Government Funded" programs, such as, Free Health care?
By 27dan (1930), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 9:51 PM
The way Obama is printing $ Siver is a good bet.I have puchased a ton since last year
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 10:05 PM
Its most likely B.S. like everything else you sell
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 10:38 PM
I have one word:

Bechtel.
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 3:18 PM
We have free health care now! A person w/out health insurance only needs to go the the emergency room for care. That cost is being passed on to the insurance company and the to me...with the insurance companies mark-up.
Why do you people on the right fight for the insurance companies? They would just assume let you die for not initialing your policy in the right spot.

Altschuler ships jobs to India and is worth hundreds of million of dollars. You can bet he does not care about the ...more
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 26, 10 10:12 PM
We do not fight for insurance companies we fight for the free market. We do not want the government using Health care to as the president put it redistribute the wealth. We are for changing the current health care situation to make it more affordable and fair ....but through tort reform and allowing competition across state lines.
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 26, 10 10:36 PM
Nice dissection...
Oct 27, 10 3:12 PM appended by Mr. Z
Bechtel ! (I was saving that one...)
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 3:12 PM
Here's a flick from a banker, who developed a conscience. All you Bostonian types who THINK you know what the "free market", and the "redistribution of wealth" is, watch this, if you have the gumption.

http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/Speaking-Freely-Vol.-1-John-Perkins/70070576?trkid=1544507

You may even want to watch the ENTIRE series...
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 6:47 AM
Thanks for the compliment Phil.

I'm someone who has worked hard since he was 14, saved, invested to hedge against inflation, just like the generation before me, and got burned. Hard.

I'm not sure what the solution entirely is, but I do know it's not the way we have traditionally done things. I know there isn't one single answer. It's a big galaxy out there, and an even bigger universe. If we keep doing what we are doing, we won't be part of bigger things. That much, I do know ...more
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 3:26 PM
Here is a glaring example of the blinding hypocrisy and sheer, unadulterated b s of the teaparty. Last night Joe Miller in an interview said he thought the issue of gay marriage should be left up to the states. "That is a state issue" he said over and over again. Then asked if how would support a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage he said "Yes." How appropriate that this Halloween season be filled with such brainless zombies.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 8:28 AM
HAH! Nice excuse, capt'n crunch. I saw the interview, I heard the hypocrisy and I hear you defending it. Beautiful.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 10:31 AM
New update from Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com the non-partisan, political numbers guru who accurately predicted 99% of all races in 2008

http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/house/new-york/1

Chance of winning seat: Bishop - 71.5% Outsourcer - 28.5

Dems, get out and vote and we will keep our district in the warm embrace of sanity!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 9:35 AM
Let's hear it for philathome, Mr. Z, SHNative and peoplefirst! They're the only ones talking sense. (If I've left anyone out, it's because they're not near the end of this thread, or they are and they're part of the loony input.) Hang in there, folks, Tim will win if his friends get out and vote on Nov. 2.
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 27, 10 10:58 AM
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For delusional teabaggers that would like us to believe they are all about limited government and individual liberties. Here are actual quotes from Joe Millers interview - proof that he and is "party" are full of it:

Miller: "I'm not going to intrude upon an individual's decision as to what he or she does. The fact of the matter is it's a state issue. That's our position in the campaign. That's our answer to your question. We're increasingly a diverse country. I want to be straight with ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 11:12 AM
once again, capt'n hypocrite, you try to change the subject. Teabaggers say they are for limited federal government and personal liberties - unless you are gay, latino, or a woman who wants to exercise her right to choose. Keep sticking your foot in it, Capt'n teabagger, and I'll keep calling you out.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 12:30 PM
Homosexuality exists in EVERY species in nature. It's a normal part of evolutionary biology. There were even a male pair of penguins at the Bremerhaven Zoo in Germany, who adopted a chick who was abandoned by a breeding pair of penguins. My advice to those who still believe in some B.S. Psalm, written thousands of years ago, by a man who was oppressed by a pagan, Roman society, is to GET OVER IT. I have rarely seen such a primitive ideal in our "modern" society.

To quote a comic I heard ...more
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 2:58 PM
Capt'n crunch, you must be joking. Your posts are clear evidence that you put your "party" before all rational thought. You dismiss every single fact posted here and you espouse the virtues of a far-right conservative group of bigoted know-nothings. You defend ALL teabag candidates without hesitation and you could care less what anyone else has to say. Where we diverge drastically is that I believe in good government, helping your neighbor and providing a path to citizenship to hardworking immigrants ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 27, 10 7:31 PM
Sorry, captn, but I too have read your postings and you are about as progressive as Newt Gingrich. By the way, the money we borrowed from China was to pay for the illegal wars and tax breaks to the rich that your side defends so strongly.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 10:33 AM
I am glad that someone else pointed it out before me. This thread reminds me of a football game where my side is winning by an enormous margin and the players just keep scoring more touchdowns. After a certain point, it's bullying and bad sportsmanship but one can't help but enjoy every additional score.

I would have clicked,"Like", much more often but I am accessing this site presently on a netbook. Even though the connection is fast, every time I click, "Like", the page reloads in ...more
By highhatsize (3158), East Quogue on Oct 27, 10 12:33 PM
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"The People are a fickle lot, indeed."
Oct 27, 10 3:47 PM appended by Mr. Z
http://www.thepeoplespeak.com/
By Mr. Z (8876), North Sea on Oct 27, 10 3:47 PM
Better days are just around the bend
By joe hampton (2749), south hampton on Oct 27, 10 9:39 PM
You're leaving Long Island?! Great news!
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 10:34 AM
Lot of wild stuff being thrown around here, most of it by Tim Bishop's opponents. If I thought these folks were the everyday Republican & Conservative locals who are always here and with whom
I've interacted (OK, argued) for a long time, it would be one thing. But I don't. Part of why I don't is the wildness of what they're saying. Another part of it is the sameness of what they're saying. These aren't the people I know and debate regularly; they're outsiders, either geographically or ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1633), Quiogue on Oct 29, 10 10:50 AM
last word.
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 29, 10 7:15 PM
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