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Town Police Chief Appointment May Be Clouded By Politics

HHS has always been absolutely wrong, but does use big words when he speaks.

Quote:

Councilwoman Nancy Graboski said this week she was surprised by the email. The initial note alarmed Ms. Graboski, who on Tuesday speculated that something was politically amiss; she declined to flesh out her thoughts, but she noted that they were based on “rumors” confirmed by more than one source. She also said she believed that Chief Wilson was the Town Patrolmen’s Benevolence Association pick for the job.

Something's wrong when you dont want to clarify your stance, and that stance is based on rumors, just my opinion.

Bama-Slama" Apr 14, 11 5:23 PM

For the record, I do not "like" highhatsize's comment, dont know why it says I do.

Bama-Slama" Apr 15, 11 10:08 PM

Southampton Town Board Fails To Appoint New Police Chief

Do you have any flying monkeys?" Apr 16, 11 5:09 PM

Southampton Town Board Appoints Wilson As Police Chief

Sounds like all of Anthony Tenaglia's friends are upset. I am sure there was a reason he wasn't the choice." Apr 29, 11 6:22 PM

Key words of your lengthy post.....ACCUSATIONS AND RUMORS. Why don't we try to base our posts on facts and truth? I am almost embarassed to be a member of the republican party seeing the behavior of late. I am sure Wilson will do a fine job leading this outstanding police agency. " Apr 30, 11 12:03 PM

The town board takes weeks to interview and appoint a Police chief and you all get indignant and mortified. The real gang of three, Nuzzi, Graboski, and Malone make a clearly political appointment of Kratoville and you were all silent. The party took a hit on this one, stop embarassing yourselves." Apr 30, 11 12:15 PM

I believe the sole purpose of the meeting was to swear in the new police chief, therefore having members of his former and future departments in uniform is entirely appropriate, along with the uniformed members on Southold, New York State, East Hampton. What was inappropriate was the actions of the seamans, both marietta and her husband whose name escapes me. The decision was made and the time for public comments past at the last town board neeting. Mr and Mrs seaman were a beligerant embarassment of what is wrong with politics this day and age. Mr Wilson and his family had to endure a rambling incoherent statement by marietta, then a sorry attempt by her husband to....well I am not even sure what he was doing. Its all on the portal, watch and see for yourselves.
" May 4, 11 4:49 PM

Tell us which jurisdiction you are referring to that would not allow uniforms to be worn at the official swearing in of a new leader of that department, or do not comment on something that is undoubtedly way beyond your limited comprehension. Your statements comparing local law enforcement to the brownshirts of 1933 is appalling, and tracing thru your past comments par for the course with you. You seem to have a problem with authority, or our local authority, and speak as if an authority on all things pertaining to them. Clearly you are just an ignorant individual with a bone to pick. Try keeping your especially offensive and stupid statements inside that tiny head. And please answer my initial question, would like to know how you come about your facts. " May 4, 11 5:02 PM

Republicans Challenge Forced Police Retirements In Southampton Budget As Political

Enough already! You all spout such nonsense! Where is the research in your unintelligent postings? Chief1.......160 days? where did you come up with that number? Oh wait....I can probably guess....never mind.

Here are some FACTS for you......2009 adopted tax rate PD=.53% (notice the point) @100% equalization per $1,000. dollars assessed value. Now follow along...2009 rate=.56, 2010=.522and 2011 was .507.....with me so far? Oh and by the way, All this is coming from past budgets....I just had to put my thinking cap on, that's the cap that reg rep, HHS, chief1, Goldenboy, and SHtownHB are lacking...and Mr.Z has probably just misplaced. I digress.....2009 PD operating budget adopted $18.7 mil. (I'm rounding up) actual was $17.2 Mil. came in under budget, so we cut it to $16 mil for 2010.....and the amended budget for 2010....$15.9 mil. again under budget. Of that salaries were $8.9 mil in 2009, and $9.4 in 2010. This parts interesting.....The PD generates revenue to the tune of roughly $2.3 million a year. For giggles subtract that from the salaries (they offset, no cops writing tickets=no revenue) and you are in the ball park of $6.5 million in salaries.

I know, lots of numbers but what does it all mean? You pay roughly 57 CENTS per day for police salaries. I know the cops in my area by first name, they come into the store all the time. I have a relationship with them and they are familiar with the happenings around here. My LIBRARY tax rate is comparable to my PD tax rate, and my fire department tax rate is 2x my PD tax rate. Don't get me started on the school taxes....and chief1....they work 180 days a year by the way, you must have been confused.

So, in conclusion, with no long words to make myself sound more intelligent than I really am, I will acquiescently submit my findings for your viewing pleasure, all confirmable with a little bit of time and the aspiration to find the truth. I will pay my 57 cents a day, and I realize this is my opinion. For some 57 cents a day for police coverage can be twisted and manipulated (HHS and reg rep, you two are the best at that!) to sound extraordinary in light of the fiscal situation we are in, but don't blame me, I voted for McCain.

Thank You.

Good Day." Oct 7, 11 10:46 AM

OK, why would you post suffolks contract? Because you BELIEVE it to be close? Again, you post misinformation and Mr. Z follows behind tail wagging. Maybe you should have taken a test if your so jealous of what they get. I posted the FACTS above....wipe your eyes and take a look. What are you the chief of anyways? " Oct 8, 11 2:50 PM

And you'll continue to do so......wagging your tail. Last I checked private sector got us in this mess, then we the people gave up billions for them to cash out as bonuses. Go stick your head back in the sand." Oct 9, 11 12:46 AM

"OOOHHHHH Goody, another poster I can tag along with because 2364 of my postings are responses to other posters as I am not clever enough to post an original thread." says Mr. Z as he waits with baiting breath for the next post to hit.

*This retort does not require anything and is well intended. Wag Wag Wag........." Oct 9, 11 9:06 AM

you existence is inadequate the day you have to explain why it isn't. Glass plus or windex when you do windows?" Oct 12, 11 9:15 AM

Developers Ready To Submit Application For Canoe Place Inn Project

Care to enlighten us on what "historical" value this building presents? Or are we now up to 2376 "shining examples" of why you have no idea what your talking about. " Oct 15, 11 9:20 AM

Fleming, Scalera Win Southampton Board Race; Throne-Holst Reelected

Love the photo of Linda on the "other" site standing with a glass of wine....priceless." Nov 8, 11 10:35 PM

see......" Nov 10, 11 10:56 AM

UPDATE: Fire Marshal Says Sagaponack Garage Fire Does Not Appear Suspicious

you especially liked the fire set by the two dogs? Your an idiot." Nov 17, 11 9:45 AM

Pope Names Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary Roman Catholic Church A Basilica

Still the ever faithful lap dog." Dec 23, 11 8:39 PM

Politically Divided Southampton Town Board Names New Police Captain

I think most "jerks" know the difference between here as in a location....and HEAR as in your ears....some jerks actually have more between the ears than posters HERE on this blog.....right Chiefy?" Mar 13, 12 9:02 PM

So brilliant you posted twice.....here here!!" Mar 13, 12 9:04 PM

Southampton Police Chief May Face New Challenge

Name the top three applicants." Apr 8, 12 4:50 PM

Police Suspension May Hint At Issues In Department

Hey look who's back....how was the ride up marrieta? Enjoy your winter in sunny Florida? Glad to see your back and as angry as ever.....too bad the ignorance came back with you.

Bama-Slama" May 16, 12 8:44 AM

Relax marietta.....you may need to go on meds if you keep up with the anger issues, but I can see why. I am a registered conservative, leaving the republicans because of fools like you. Now because of fools like you I am stuck with Malone.....thanks for that. Your public behavior is pathetic casting a shadow on all republicans as ill tempered and ignorant. For the republicans to survive in Southampton you need to stay in Boca. And please dont try to say I am off base. Before your return from Florida and post on this article you posted on November 14. Sounds like an old snow bird to me, and that shoe fits you well. Look into a retirement home in Florida and maybe we can start cleaning up the mess you made." May 17, 12 9:18 AM

Southampton Town Leaders Accuse Zeldin Of Making 'Misleading' Comments About Hampton Bays During White House Visit

"Another school shooting in Maryland today. How many mass murders do you have by grenades. None, because they're illegal."

First and foremost, here is to a speedy recovery to the victims of this tragic domestic related shooting, and God bless the Police Officer who engaged and terminated the threat at great peril to himself.

@metsfan, I will direct your attention to the current situation developing in Texas. Grenades are not needed to cause death by explosion.

In the case of this latest shooting, even tho it was NOT a mass shooting as hysterically stated by you but a domestic issue, the carnage was ceased by a good guy who had a gun. Your argument of banning guns to law abiding citizens is the only real joke according to your post. Foreign and domestic terrorist adapt and find new ways to continue to massacre innocent lives, we have seen an uptick in vehicles being used as a means of weaponry. You do not need a gun to inflict mass casualties as long as you have a large group gathered in an accessible area, and an individual bent on destruction and murder.

That being said

A law abiding citizen with a gun can stop a deranged individual from destruction and murder, with the proper background check, study in the proper use and care of a firearm/rifle, and yearly refresher course.

The United States has been to slow in responding to these incidents with real change. Post 9/11 the airline industry was drastically changed. We have suffered to much with school shootings. Its time politics was put aside and we protect our students the same way we protect the public. Armed Police Officers should be mandatory in all middle and secondary schools. Regardless of the cost. But if you think that this will stop a deranged individual from committing mass murder on our campus's, picture an SUV and a outdoor pep rally. It can still happen.

And I have heard of someone killing a total of 19 people. On July 26, 2016 in Japan an assailant killed 19 and wounded 45.

Murderers will find a way, those unprepared to protect themselves will always be indefensible." Mar 20, 18 2:48 PM

OOPS

A leading young Democrat and de Blasio administration employee has a secret taste for sickening kiddie porn that involves baby girls as young as 6 months old, court papers revealed Friday." Mar 21, 18 11:02 PM

'Why Are We Only Now Talking About Facebook And Elections?'

Forbes,
3/19/18

Some key points:

At the time of his election and reelection, Obama’s data analytics researchers were heralded as technology heroes for the way they modernized how political campaigns wrangle data in the pursuit of votes. Outlets sang their praises as “digital masterminds” and lauded their “unorthodox” approaches.

One highly publicized innovation was the construction of precision television viewership models that allowed the Obama campaign to precisely model private viewership habits of Americans: “The team bought detailed data on TV viewing by millions of cable subscribers, showing which channels they were watching, sometimes on a second-by-second basis. The information — which is collected from set-top cable boxes and sold by a company called Rentrak — doesn’t show who was watching, but the campaign used a third-party company to match viewing data to its own internal list of voters and poll responses.”

Yet, perhaps of greatest relevance to the controversy surrounding Cambridge Analytica is how the Obama campaign leveraged Facebook. As Carol Davidsen, former Director of Integration of Media Analytics for Obama for America put it last night in a series of tweets reflecting back on the 2012 campaign: “Facebook was surprised we were able to suck out the whole social graph, but they didn’t stop us once they realized that was what we were doing. They came to office in the days following election recruiting & were very candid that they allowed us to do things they wouldn’t have allowed someone else to do because they were on our side.” Yet, she caveated the campaign’s use of the data noting that the project “felt creepy” but that they “played by the rules.”

A New York Times Magazine profile of the time offers a bit more detail how the Obama campaign’s platform worked and it is strikingly similar to the system Facebook claims was used by Cambridge Analytica. As the Times describes it, the campaign “started with a list that grew to a million people who had signed into the campaign Web site through Facebook. When people opted to do so, they were met with a prompt asking to grant the campaign permission to scan their Facebook friends lists, their photos and other personal information. In another prompt, the campaign asked for access to the users’ Facebook news feeds” which 75% permitted and “once permission was granted, the campaign had access to millions of names and faces they could match against their lists of persuadable voters, potential donors, unregistered voters and so on.”

In short, according to the Times’ reporting, which is borne out by many other reports of the time, the Obama campaign engaged in nearly identical activity to what Cambridge Analytica is claimed to have done: they took a set of users who willingly contributed their data to a cause and quietly mined their friend lists, downloading immense volumes of private material from unwitting individuals that never authorized, let alone had any idea, that a political campaign was harvesting their information from Facebook simply because a person they were connected with had given the organization permission to harvest their information.

And then Business Insider has some better info on the Holier than thou:

In 2012, the Obama campaign encouraged supporters to download an Obama 2012 Facebook app that, when activated, let the campaign collect Facebook data both on users and their friends.

According to a July 2012 MIT Technology Review article, when you installed the app, "it said it would grab information about my friends: their birth dates, locations, and 'likes.' "

The campaign boasted that more than a million people downloaded the app, which, given an average friend-list size of 190, means that as many as 190 million had at least some of their Facebook data vacuumed up by the Obama campaign — without their knowledge or consent.

If anything, Facebook made it easy for Obama to do so. A former campaign director, Carol Davidsen, tweeted that "Facebook was surprised we were able to suck out the whole social graph, but they didn't stop us once they realized that was what we were doing."

This Facebook treasure trove gave Obama an unprecedented ability to reach out to nonsupporters. More important, the campaign could deliver carefully targeted campaign messages disguised as messages from friends to millions of Facebook users.

The campaign readily admitted that this subtle deception was key to their Facebook strategy.

"People don't trust campaigns. They don't even trust media organizations," Teddy Goff, the Obama campaign's digital director, said at the time. "Who do they trust? Their friends."

According to a Time magazine account just after Obama won re-election, "the team blitzed the supporters who had signed up for the app with requests to share specific online content with specific friends simply by clicking a button."


So it appears Obama was manipulating during the campaign, and after, and Facebook was O.K. with it.

WOW." Mar 22, 18 3:51 PM

IMHO...

Facebook is the greatest threat to national security right now. The American public knowingly, with the Obama app., and unwittingly by being "friends" with someone who had the app., opened the door to data mining of unprecedented levels, followed by manipulation during a presidency for political gain. This is not a rebuke of Obama, but the example of what is possible through Social Media, in particular Facebook.

So here we have Obama reaching 190 million Americans in 2012, conservative estimates of Russia reaching 126 million Americans, Trump 50 in 2016 (what exactly the campaign did is yet to be determined) all through this one site.

FORIEGN and DOMESTIC use of this application for the purpose of manipulating the American citizen. If this doesnt wake up both sides of the aisle. The chasm in all aspects of American political, family, and racial make up has suffered tremendously by false stories and now we find manipulation, permitted and exploited, of this 1 company and program." Mar 22, 18 5:25 PM

I'm gonna have to call you on a technical foul here fore.

I don't see Bayman trying to prove the existence by reading, I think he's trying to level the playing field with a very confused opponent. ( I'm going to use lots of sport references, have you noticed?)

"You believe in the New Testament god, and ignore the Old Testament god. Yes, clearly there was a marked improvement in "God's" behavior in the sequel. Or, perhaps the old one just must have been another false god..." z.

Ok, right off the bat, this player does not have the necessary equipment. He's got God's all over the place. This God, that God. It's like wiffle ball, you have that big fat red bat for that one special kid. Well, here you go son.

Before further imbecilic statements I suggest you read the Good Book to understand the correlation between Old and New. Start with Sermon on the Mount.
Bayman.

Now, carefully reading this statement, Bay is referring red bat back to the Books to get his facts straight before the game starts.

Now, just because you have that red bat does not guarantee z will not run to third instead of first in the off chance he actually makes contact with the ball...follow?


" Mar 23, 18 10:27 AM

Good question.

I remember getting my SS card and my parents driving it into my brain never to give the number out, memorize it and put the card somewhere safe.

Now, people put their entire lives onto a website for the world to see and they don't give a second thought to who may be watching. All these applications that track your every move, and yet we say we want our right to privacy. Voluntarily giving it away.

Can we let the government place legislation on these companies to protect those citizens who wish to open themselves up to possible data theft ( I have no social media, I have a mailbox ) when the government has been shown to actually use and manipulate citizens social media?

Can we trust these companies to police themselves when it appears the profit margin is what matters, not protection?

Do we try to establish a cyber agency and empower them to enforce a new set of laws due to the changing enviorment?

Something should be done, all this bickering here about Russian collusion ( for the record, I personally don't believe there was any, only because after this amount of time I would have hoped something would take place in the name of National Security if there was evidence ) comes back to how wide open and available the internet is as a weapon." Mar 23, 18 10:55 AM

I have to admit, I have found this particular back and forth really amusing. z has been on the ropes the whole time ( I actually did Google those 2 questions, no doubt, imbecilic statement on z's part.) and certainly has been squirrel like.

I just wanted to go back and fact check the numerous part, so I perused some of z's 9,930 "mind numbing" posts.....WHOA NELLY....


My father came here "off the boat", paid taxes, learned to speak English very well, EARNED his Citizenship, built a home, raised two children, put one through college, supported the other through all hardship, including a lightining strike, and a sleep disorder. He paid taxes, and SUPPORTED the system. He never hesitated to work day AND night to put a "roof" over his family's collective heads.

These "illegals" in question DO NOT support the system, but leach from it, and undermine not only our soveriegnty, but our national security.

WAKE UP, and smell the damned coffee...
Z, 7/2/10

"We have some serious problems, and maybe closing our borders like China did would actually HELP things. We could focus on things like cost of living based federal tax, and aid assessment, as well as deporting those immigrants who disregard our laws, since that is their due for their malfeasant behavior."
Z, 7/10/10

Though seemingly sans compassion, there is some validity to the point. If people cannot afford to breed, they most likely would not. There is a point where charity merely becomes a handout, and persons have no reason to improve themselves, for their basic needs are met. Warranted, some do better themselves due to personal desire, but what percentage is that? Probably mighty low. There are families who have been on welfare for GENERATIONS, and a there is a massive lack of oversight on top of that.
Z, 7/10/10

The vast majority of the nation who have them (children), afford to nurture, and provide for them. It is not fair to those who work hard to provide for their family for some women just to have more kids so they get a bigger welfare check. And, yes, that does happen. More than one story over the years in the news about it.
Z 7/10/10

I think someone kidnapped the real z, and now we have an imposter.
" Mar 24, 18 11:47 AM

East End Residents Participate In Marches Protesting Gun Violence

@junebug
"Until a fetus can live outside the womb, there is no "child""...tell that to the parents of a stillborn.

I'd like someone to ask these youths if they no the reason why the 2nd amendment is critical to a sovereign nation. My guess is they will all open up a smart device and try to figure it out, until someone (generally right leaning) comes along and tells them it's not, don't listen, your doing great.

I am for stricter gun control. Terrorist watch list, nope, you can't have one. And if you'd like to raise the age to buy, then raise the age to vote. These kids were playing Minecraft last year, they haven't developed any real world knowledge. I can hear it now from the bleeders on the right..."these kids went through a blah, blah,", "How dare you blah blah"...and my answer.....hand over your bank account to one of these kids, along with all your financial responsibilities, see how that works out for you.

You all know why Obama won, he had naive college kids in his pocket promising "hope" and "change"...then he never delivered, and 30% of the voters who voted for him went so bonkers they elected DT, which is kind of ironic, this reality TV show guy from the apprentice is now an apprentice leading the greatest nation. Not the greatest thing to ever happen, shame on both parties for this.

I will keep my guns, thank you. I am responsible, have a gun safe, instructed my son on the safe handling of my guns, and will continue to be a responsible parent raising a child in a more and more irresponsible world.

All of the amendments are as relevant today as they were on September 25, 1789.

TODAY, the 2nd amendment is particularly vital, it stands between law abiding free members of this nation and tyrannical government. Think about that. BOTH sides of the aisle can start making an argument about that. I happen to be a first responder on 9/11, and spent months in a toxic soup because I was told by then EPA administrator Christie Todd Whitman..

"Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C. that their air is safe to breathe and their water is safe to drink." She also said, "The concentrations are such that they don't pose a health hazard...We're going to make sure everybody is safe."[24] A 2003 report by the EPA's Inspector General determined that the assurance was misleading, because the EPA "did not have sufficient data and analyses" to justify it.[25]

My country lied to me, I understand why, I signed up for my job and it was necessary to be there regardless of the air quality. They just should have moved faster to secure us equipment. I was fitted in late November for a respirator.

I digress..

I can speak A little on the abuse of government and the need for its people to be prepared to hold it accountable, unfortunately MRS. Whitman gave me cancer, and a list of other gifts.

It comes down to parenting, which seems like a foreign concept. What the hell does a 8 year old need a phone for? Get them a bike, or those cool balsa wood airplanes with the rubber band propeller, or a kite.

It's time to wake up, we've elected 2 of the most polarizing presidents in our history. Stop trying to see who can piss off who more.

I'll take my soapbox and leave now." Mar 24, 18 8:09 PM

Divine providence is God, you should look it up.
" Mar 25, 18 5:19 PM

Mr. Z, I have a computer question for you. My Dell seems to have suffered a electrical surge, somewhat like a lightning strike. It appears the "brains" of my computer are fried. All that happens when I power it up is a endless loop of random, nonsensical gibberish. Should I just junk this thing?

And now to answer your question I hope.....i Actually researched this, once I started it was quite interesting.

George Washington
1st U.S. President

"While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."

John Adams
2nd U.S. President and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God ... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be."

Thomas Jefferson
3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God?

That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever..."

John Hancock
1st Signer of the Declaration of Independence

"Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. ... Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us."

Samuel Adams
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Father of the American Revolution

"And as it is our duty to extend our wishes to the happiness of the great family of man, I conceive that we cannot better express ourselves than by humbly supplicating the Supreme Ruler of the world that the rod of tyrants may be broken to pieces, and the oppressed made free again; that wars may cease in all the earth, and that the confusions that are and have been among nations may be overruled by promoting and speedily bringing on that holy and happy period when the kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ may be everywhere established, and all people everywhere willingly bow to the sceptre of Him who is Prince of Peace."

Roger Sherman
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution

"I believe that there is one only living and true God, existing in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, the same in substance equal in power and glory."

Alexander Hamilton
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Ratifier of the U.S. Constitution

"I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor."

Patrick Henry
Ratifier of the U.S. Constitution

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."

AND THEN, THIS, WHICH I PRINTED AND TACKED TO MY WALL NEXT TO RUDYARD KIPLING'S "IF".......

Abraham Lincoln (1809–65)
We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven. We have been preserved, these many years, in peace and prosperity. We have grown in numbers, wealth and power, as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us!

DAMN." Mar 26, 18 12:11 AM

#4. "The word used is "Creator". Also used is the "Laws of Nature and Nature's God". Nowhere does the word "Divine" appear."
( I am now numbering the imbecilic false statements to better keep track. )

"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."
The last sentence of the Declaration of Independence.

#5 "What makes your god, or any for that matter, more valid than those which are already in the dustbin of history? It's been months since the interrogative was put forth."

It was March 23, 2018 at 1:10am...not "months"

#6 "The majority were Deists, and dismissed the supernatural. Especially the supernatural events depicted in the Bible."

Deism (/ˈdiːɪzəm/ DEE-iz-əm or /ˈdeɪ.ɪzəm/ DAY-iz-əm; derived from Latin "deus" meaning "God") is a philosophical belief that posits that God exists but does not interfere directly with the world.

#7 "especially the "God" of the Old Testament."

Only 1 true God is mentioned in the Bible, both books.

#8 "The voice of the people has been said to be the voice of God; and, however generally this maxim has been quoted and believed, it is not true to fact. The people are turbulent and changing, they seldom judge or determine right."
~ Alexander Hamilton

You should double check your sources before you use them. Mr. Hamilton used this quote as part of a larger statement in favor of a Leviathan form of government
Here is the full text that you so conveniently left out....

"All communities divide themselves into the few and the many. The first are rich and well born; the other, the mass of the people. The voice of the people has been said to be the voice of God; and however generally this maxim has been quoted and believed, it is not true in fact. The people are turbulent and changing; they seldom judge or determine right. Give therefore to the first class a distinct, permanent share in the government. They will check the unsteadiness of the second; and as they cannot receive any advantage by change, they will therefore maintain good government"

It's about giving some wealthy guy control for life, because poor folk dont realy know much. Oooopps.

#9 your Jefferson quote....this is typical imbecilic mythomaniac

Taken from a letter Jefferson wrote to John Adams. The context is actually how devout a Christian Jefferson is, and his displeasure with the distance between his true belief in Jesus Christ, and those who claim to be Christians. The letter was penned April 11, 1823, and opens....

DEAR SIR, -- The wishes expressed, in your last favor, that I may continue in life and health until I become a Calvinist, at least in his exclamation of `mon Dieu! jusque à quand'! would make me immortal. I can never join Calvin in addressing his god. He was indeed an Atheist, which I can never be; or rather his religion was Daemonism. If ever man worshipped a false god, he did. The being described in his 5. points is not the God whom you and I acknolege and adore, the Creator and benevolent governor of the world; but a daemon.....

Bill Maher and Goerge Carlin aren't very bright.

I am glad to see that you have at least 1 fan, I am unsure why.

" Mar 26, 18 12:47 PM

I'm going to grab Jim Mac's comment and bring it down...

Nikolas Cruz
Legally purchased after treatment in a mental health facility, expelled from school for violent tendencies, reported to authorities on multiple occasions, recent being when he stated he was going to be “going to be a professional school shooter.” FBI twice was informed and twice deemed it not worthy of investigation at the very basic level.

Devin Kelley
History of domestic violence barred him from buying guns legally. He was able to do so because the Air Force failed to notify the FBI of a past criminal conviction that included the strangulation of his wife and fracturing of her son's skull.

Stephen Paddock
Was able to purchase 33 of the 49 weapons found in a two year period undetected because because federal law does not require licensed gun dealers to alert the government about rifle purchases.

Omar Mateen
Purchased an AR-15-style rifle, a Sig Sauer MCX, and a handgun on separate days about a week before the attack from a licensed dealer near his home in Fort Pierce, Florida. This after the FBI investigated Omar twice because of co-workers concerns about statements he had made concerning possible ties to terrorist groups.

Syed farook
Used a rifle that was legally purchased by his neighbor. The two had planned to attack a community college.

Christopher Harper-mercer
Family legally purchased firearm.

Dylan Roof
Was able to purchase a firearm even tho he had a prior drug conviction that should have prevented him from doing so. It was a clerical error.

Aaron Alexis
Was able to purchase a firearm even after a history of violent outburts and mental health treatment. He was given an honourable discharge honourable discharge despite bouts of insubordination, disorderly conduct and unauthorized absences.

Adam Lanza
Used his mother's firearms that were legally purchased.

James Holmes
Was able to purchase firearms despite the fact he was receiving psychiatric treatment when he passed required federal background checks.

So here are the last 10 shooters and how they were able to get the weapons. Why is it so important for a drastic overhaul like the ones being called for now, when clearly the system should have worked and done it's job in 6 out of the 10, 2 used family weapons that should have come down to responsible ownership and parenting. Why is it necessary to infringe on the rights of law abiding citizens for the failure of the government in most cases, the same government that you would be trusting with the change you seek?
Common sense modification to existing laws, and the government does what it is supposed to...especially the FBI whose shortcomings is culpable in too many of these 10 shootings.
Fore...you seem to be the least radical and most sensible of your bunch. What would you like to do?" Mar 27, 18 7:35 PM

So, you are for the banning of rifles as listed in Obama's Bill if I am reading correctly.

You do understand I am sure that any one of these tragedies could have been carried out by a handgun, except for Vegas. If you have never handle both an AR and a handgun, I can assure you the reloading process on a handgun is more fluent and faster on the handgun. IMHO, the use of the AR in these instances is the perceived fear factor giving the shooter more pleasure, not for maximum carnage.

That being said. Would stricter measures keeping rifles out of the hands of the shooters on this list with mental issues be suffice?" Mar 28, 18 3:06 PM

Yes, you are correct, the accuracy on the AR is much better, but at a distance. The majority of ALL shootings occur in the roughly 3 to 5 yard area, deadliest obviously in the arms length, which is the most common. ( stats are hard to come by, but the NYPD did a investigation on 4,000 shootings and this is the numbers)

The AR has a 30 round magazine. It is interesting to note that this weapon has a minimum effective range dependent on the round. 223 round is most common IMO, and has a min. effective range of 400m, this is due to the velocity of the round, thus not achieving full effect of the round if it strikes it's target at close range.

The Glock .40 has numerous magazine capacities available online. I did a quick Google and found a 31 round magazine for $40.00. Again, being familiar with both, and my fellow 2nd amendmenters can weigh in, my opinion is it is more fluent and faster to drop a magazine from a handgun and reload. Velocity on a .40 s&w is 900-1400 fps, 223 is roughly 2,784fps.

So, if you want to be accurate at 100 yards, a hand gun is not the way to go. You want to quickly dispense rounds in an accurate "spray and pray" it is. The handgun actually acts as an extension of the arms, point the arms and shoot. The majority of shooters are not "aiming" just pointing towards, an example would be Nickolas Cruz who was spraying through the windows of the classroom doors as stated by a witness.

I can agree with you on the reporting, and a nation wide policy. But I feel that with a nation wide policy you must not be able to hold up the transaction of a law abiding citizen. You also can not seal the record of a violent youth. Civil liberties will be infringed upon. Me personally, I am fine with that, I obey the law. Will the ACLU be ok with the government gathering information on its citizens in the name of safety?
I'm curious what you think....you and I are getting somewhere." Mar 28, 18 5:16 PM

MF, you are seriously making some asinine comments out of blind hatred. The majority of NRA members due not support carnage, you should step away from the keyboard for awhile... Doesn't the season start soon? Your painting all liberals in a worse light than what your actually trying to accomplish against gun owners. Your all over the place.... Go have a beer. " Mar 29, 18 4:47 PM

The left can argue all they want about gun laws, where you can carry, when you can carry, I do agree with the who can carry, but it's a fact that guns are not the most dangerous thing facing our school students today. This is just the one that's going to piss off the right the most and a hot topic now.

You care about the kids, invest in anti-bullying programs, programs to deal with depression, anxiety and stress, alcohol and drug abuse. FAR more kids suffer under these. This gun talk is not helping the kids at all.

And teach Adults to be parents not BFF's." Apr 1, 18 7:49 PM

I tell my kids to be kind to all, to ignore those who feel it is necessary to bully, until they put a hand on you. Then you beat them until you feel it is at the point when they will never raise a hand against you, not any sooner. I was taught to beat someone until they never wanted the beating again, it has served me well.

My children respect law enforcement, elders, those who have something to pass on. If they didn't they would have me to answer to. They don't fear me, they respect me. I've never had to raise my voice.

They have seen me leave the house in uniform, and not return for days. That it doesn't matter where you are heading, no matter how difficult, you have a job and people count on you. The weakest of society need a voice, and they should be prepared to be that voice.

I have taught them to always ask for a to go box, and hand it the homeless and taught my children that this is humanity.

Please do not question what I teach my children, I have had a unique perspective, it's the privileged who should perhaps teach their children about life. The ones who will call because their children wont go to bed, or wake up in time to catch the bus, and feel the need to let their children know who will come and arrest them if they are bad.

My children are fine, thank you. You worry about yours.

And when my son becomes of age, his gift from me will be a firearm. He has been taught to love his country, to honor those who serve and have sacrificed, and that there is no greater love than to lay down ones life for another.

Now tell me, what do you teach your children?

" Apr 1, 18 11:45 PM

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